When the Hollywood Strike Is Over, What Will be Left?
Between A.I. and TikTok, the actors and writers will be returning to a changed industry.
The double strike of 1960—the first in Hollywood history—was a resounding success for the Screen Actors Guild (SAG) and Writers Guild of America (WGA).
That was 63 years ago. SAG President Ronald Reagan facilitated what Variety called "bare-knuckle, shirtsleeve negotiations." Desi Arnaz wrote a heartfelt open letter pleading for a resolution from both sides. "Amigos," it began. "I am sitting on a bench at a redwood table in front of a tent on the farm in Corona…the coffee pot on an open fire is dancing around, and the aroma coming from it is its way of saying, 'get your cup.'"
Eventually, most of the strikers' demands were met and new contracts were signed. The Alliance of Television Film Producers acquiesced on pension and health insurance demands and ensured that creatives would be included in residual payouts for films made after 1948. Everyone went back to work. Classics such as Psycho and Spartacus were released in short order.
Now the WGA and SAG-AFTRA—as SAG became known after it merged with the American Federation of Television and Radio Artists—have again linked arms at the picket line, bringing the $134 billion industry to a standstill. But times have changed. When you add up the entertainment industry's expansion beyond traditional filmmaking with major advancements in artificial intelligence (A.I.), union members may not wield the clout they once did.
Their asks are not just lofty but lengthy, at 84 pages long. The writers and actors are demanding revised residual revenue structures from streaming platforms, higher salary minimums, and strict restrictions on the industry's use of A.I. Both unions face the same existential question: Will A.I. be a useful tool to elevate and enhance artistic accomplishment, or will it make their jobs obsolete?
"What happens here is important because what's happening to us is happening across all fields of labor, when employers make Wall Street and greed their priority and they forget about the essential contributors that make the machine run," SAG-AFTRA president (and former The Nanny star) Fran Drescher told CBS in mid-July. "How they plead poverty, that they're losing money left and right when giving hundreds of millions of dollars to their CEOs. It is disgusting."
The Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers (AMPTP) counters that it had worked to settle the conflict, claiming that it offered "historic" contract improvements in 14 areas, including a 76 percent increase in residual payments for certain lucrative streaming shows overseas, and pay increases for background stand-ins, photo doubles, and actors. "We are deeply disappointed that SAG-AFTRA has decided to walk away from negotiations," AMPTP declared in a statement. "This is the union's choice, not ours."
The strikes, which have been in effect for 90 days and counting, have seen nearly 180,000 workers walking off the job, save for those with special exemptions or "interim agreements" from one of the unions. SAG-AFTRA members have also called upon non-union actors to cease work until demands have been met.
"Follow our strike rules. Do not do the work of a striking writer or actor," implored comedian Adam Conover from the picket line. "That's called scabbing."
In 1960, Hollywood's plight might have fallen on a sympathetic public. It was the golden age of movie stars—think Marilyn Monroe, Elizabeth Taylor, Cary Grant, Audrey Hepburn. These silver-screen figures exerted inordinate influence over social norms, fashion trends, popular culture, our collective understanding of historical events, and even our shared vision for the future.
But after years of sharply declining viewership at box offices and awards shows, and the swift blow dealt to the industry by COVID-19, even The New York Times must admit: "We're out of Movie Stars."
"There are fewer films now that allow an actor to grow a personal and a Tom Cruise level of stardom. It's a crisis," wrote Wesley Morris, "and the movies know it."
Entertainment itself is no longer as widely shared a part of American culture, and the remaining "movie stars" wield considerably less power. "That's a function of an increasingly prosperous and diverse society with far greater consumer choice—not a shortcoming of Hollywood," says Hannah Ruth Earl, the director of talent and creative development at the Moving Pictures Institute. "Smaller audiences give rise to more niche content in a larger marketplace."
Indeed, a new and stranger age has dawned: the age of digital media. Younger Americans much prefer social media platforms like TikTok and immersive video games to film and television, according to Deloitte's 2023 Digital Media Trends Survey. "They can be their own movie star, the hero of grand adventures, and even take the lead role in the world's largest entertainment franchises," the report notes.
SAG-AFTRA knows this, and it has issued strict rules that prohibit influencers—members and non-members alike—from engaging in promotion with any struck Hollywood studios. Failure to comply will deem the party ineligible for future membership. While some influencers refuse to cross the picket line, others call into question the importance of professional unions when they've built self-made followings and have complete creative autonomy.
Of course, the above issues pale in comparison to the question facing the global economy as a whole: Will A.I. be cast in a starring or supporting role?
As the rapidly-evolving technology has become a mainstay of union picket signs, studios have gone on a not-so-quiet A.I. hiring binge, catalyzed by a surprise windfall of cash sitting idle. Disney is seeking several generative A.I. specialists, Sony is hiring an A.I. ethics expert, and Netflix is hiring an A.I. product manager and A.I. technical director for a whopping $900,000 and $650,000 per year respectively. To me, this signifies the unions are fighting a losing battle.
"A.I. is terrifying," said "Dopesick" and "Empire" creator Danny Strong to Fortune. "Now, I've seen some of ChatGPT's writing and as of now I'm not terrified because Chat is a terrible writer. But who knows? That could change."
It already has. A recent study directed by Erik Guzik at the University of Montana utilized Torrance Tests of Creative Thinking, a reputable tool used to assess human creativity, to assess the evolving creative capabilities of GPT-4. The A.I. scored in the 19th percentile with 2,700 college students nationally who took the TTCT in 2016. "For ChatGPT and GPT-4, we showed for the first time that it performs in the top 1% for originality," Guzik said.
These rapid learning capabilities are cause for concern for the top names in tech who penned a letter of warning, imploring A.I. labs to pause training of models larger than GPT-4 for 6 months to allow for appropriate research and regulations. The letter, published by the Future of Life Institute, has 33,002 signatories including Elon Musk, Steve Wozniak, and Evan Sharp.
"Should we automate away all the jobs, including the fulfilling ones?" the letter asks. "Should we develop nonhuman minds that might eventually outnumber, outsmart, obsolete and replace us? Should we risk loss of control of our civilization?"
While industry leaders grapple with the implications of technology, the entertainment shutdown has ensured that neither actors nor writers can capitalize on the striking success of "Barbenheimer"—the simultaneous release of Barbie and Oppenheimer marked a once-in-a-decade cultural event that grossed over $1 billion in just 10 days. This may quicken force-majeure terminations, where studios and streaming platforms terminate first look and overall deals with writers as soon as early-August.
"Historically, joining these unions was viewed as a career milestone—an accomplishment and essential marker of credibility," says Earl. As studios threaten to bleed SAG-AFTRA and the WGA dry, actors and writers may turn toward non-equity work, further accelerating the rapid decentralization of film and television away from once-powerful gatekeepers.
The unions have inadvertently opened their veins. The studios are making popcorn.
"A reduction of SAG-AFTRA's authority would be accompanied by even greater structural shifts within the broader entertainment industry," says Earl. Shifts which, if they occur, will change Hollywood as we know it.
As he surveyed the colts and fillies on his farm in Corona, Desi Arnaz wrote, "I have always found that if I showed any amount of talent, in any of these areas, I never had difficulty in negotiating a fair deal. If you go beyond any qualification, you can write your own ticket, particularly in the Television Industry where the demand for talent is so great, and the competition to get it, borne out of healthy rivalry, is so strong."
That was 1960. If only Arnaz could see the brave new world to come beyond his coffee cup—where technology may soon render talent obsolete. Where unions, if they want to stay relevant, should come to the table and take what they can get.
"P.S.," he writes, "If these suggested new negotiations are conducted, (and I earnestly urge you to do so, and soon), I will be glad to supply the refreshments, and I will even be glad to supply the farm."
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My real question is whether the software industry will be able to handle the sudden influx of new coders. Hey, maybe they can go into AI development!
Do you actually believe the Hollywood clowns could code anything?
They will hire coders, obviously. But AI is "seeded" with the work of others, and that issue hasn't yet been sorted.
Have they bothered at all to investigate who goes to movies and how many times a year nowadays? Let's review the union's position(s), i.e., their concerns and reactions:
(1) (a) concern - you aren't paying us enough
(1) (b) reaction - we're gonna go on strike where all we get will be strike funds from the union till that runs out and they (and wed) go broke (and then we have to get regular jobs, and that'll show you!)
(2) (a) concern - you're gonna use A.I. to (partially) replace us
(2) (b) reaction - we're gonna strike and cut you off from our labor/output, and teach you how to "get by" on all (not partial) A.I. output
Their reactions sound a lot like "We're gonna cut our noses off to spite our own faces and you can't use our beauty to make money anymore!" Who do they think is going to pay them anything with round air holes in the middle of their faces, just above their injected lips, where their carefully sculpted noses used to be, looking like they had been captured, held, and marked by the Comanches of long ago?
As far as the threat that if you scab you can't ever join their organization (SAG-AFTRA), who says their organization will even exist in five years? And who among the readers here wouldn't take a job tomorrow that paid $300,000 (not $30 million or even $3 million) for three months work scabbing as an actor in an "indie" production? For $300,000 in three months I'd even play a lawyer.
Their timing on this is absolutely horrible. The socio-political environment is completely different than it was in 2007 when the last strike happened. Close to half the country wouldn't be upset to see the entire industry implode at this point.
#LearnToWeld
Has anyone considered what this means for Cocaine Bear 2? Terrifier 5? Hunger Games the Prequel?
Let their industry rot as it deserves
>>The strikes, which have been in effect for 90 days and counting
had no idea, just like the last time when reality shows took over their world ... contemporize, man!
Amd really, let’s celebrate the real heroes. The entertainment industry scabs who make these stinking Marxists even more irrelevant and unnecessary.
Thanks scabs.
If that's what this dipshit considers a "crisis," I'd hate to see what would happen to him in a real crisis.
And here's the thing--Tom Cruise level of stardom happens because someone consistently brings in huge audiences and makes the studios gobs of money. They might have a stinker here and there, but for the most part they're slugging hits like Babe Ruth. That type of stardom has been incredibly fucking rare for decades. You can't "redistribute" screen charisma; you either have it or you don't. That's how a perpetual fuck-up like Robert Downey Jr. can sober up, get his act together, and have a second act as one of the biggest movie stars on the planet.
Have you seen some of the drivel put out by actual writers lately? I doubt if ChaptGPT is that much worse.
Monkeys & Typewriters theory being played out ...
It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times?!?!?
logged in to type this, lol damnit
appreciate the expected response.
"I doubt if ChaptGPT is that much worse."
That's why they are worried about it taking their jobs.
Anyone would be a better writer than whoever it is that writes for The CW, or that recent LOTR sleep aid.
the original Nancy Drew was kind of a babe.
But was she written well?
SAG-AFTRA members have also called upon non-union actors to cease work until demands have been met...and it has issued strict rules that prohibit influencers—members and non-members alike—from engaging in promotion with any struck Hollywood studios. Failure to comply will deem the party ineligible for future membership.
There is more anticompetitive behavior going on here than Standard Oil ever dreamed of. Has anyone told Elizabeth Warren?
Those actors and writers better use their time off to learn to code.
Never gonna happen - - - -
The computers actually respond to that kind of writing by exploding the computer.
Actually what you get from that kind of coding is the "blue screen of death", and ultimately, a new HDD or SSD to raise the computer from the dead.
You are overly optimistic regarding the coding ability of Hollywood.
Fuck them all. Shit marxist progressives at every level of Hollywood provide little of value in terms of entertainment and instead hamfistedly insert their politics so I'm fine the whole enterprise going under as it stands. I've yet to see a negative and given a reduced stream of drivel from them, I doubt I ever will.
They also get paid a lot of money for their bullshit.
"That's a function of an increasingly prosperous and diverse society with far greater consumer choice—not a shortcoming of Hollywood"
Sorry, but it's ALSO a shortcoming of Hollywood. The two are not mutually exclusive, but in this case I can't recall a Hollywood movie any time in the last decade that I wanted to watch either at a theater or streaming at home. The quality of scripts and acting has gone way down over the decades since the previous strike. Part of that is that the general public's taste in movies increasingly fails to coincide with my own tastes; but part of it is an industry standard failure, with their infatuation for "blockbusters" and razzle-dazzle CGI technology at the expense of overall quality and story-telling.
Hollywood has generated about 3 times the content it did in 2009.
Few would argue it is better than it was in 2009.
They've screwed themselves up. Good luck fixing it.
Almost all of this stuff coming out of SAG and WGA is nothing more than misdirection.
Here's the reality--outside of a few rare hits, the industry is on its ass right now because they've spent years producing crappy, rad-left content, deliberately antagonizing the core customers of their IPs and 25% or more of the population with their political sperging, and the result has been the loss of hundreds of millions and even billions of dollars. The Fed cut back on ZIRP loans, the VC funding has dried up, Blackrock and Vanguard's credit lines will only go so far, and so no one has money to waste on this self-indulgent bullshit anymore. And when you spend several years telling a large chunk of your potential audience, "this isn't for you," don't be shocked or complain when those people take you up on it.
The whole concern about AI is that it can produce content that's as good or better than the low-bar clearing crap Hollywood has shat out the last few years. The writers want the studios to pay them MORE and to have LARGER writing staffs to keep producing this shit. Why should the studios do that when a computer program can produce a shitty script at 1/100 of the price?
But ultimately, this is about the actors/writers realizing that Iger is so hated by the people on both the right and the left, that they're trying to single him out as Public Enemy #1 for everyone to focus their anger on, like Vince McMahon during the Attitude era in WWE.
And that's why I honestly wouldn't be surprised at this point if this whole thing was cooked up between the studios and the actors/writers as a work to make the latter more sympathetic, with Iger volunteering to be the scapegoat since he'll still be a go-zillionaire no matter how much the strikers get paid. I suspect the expectation is that there will be a bunch of pent-up demand for content once the strike ends, and people will forget the last few years of these asshole actors and writers demanding that people they hate should still pay to watch their shitty content.
Oh, and in a related matter, "Sound of Freedom" has apparently made $150 million despite getting shat on by the mainstream media and is getting an international release now. Not bad for a little Fox-produced film that Disney didn't want to release because it hit too close to home.
The significant increase in movie ticket prices also insures people won't give a lot of things a chance --- and when they do so and it turns out to be preachy BS, you've blown that goodwill with them and they are unlikely to return in the future.
Yeah, I was telling sarc the other day that the cost alone has cut back on my movie-viewing choices. I'm actually interested to see Oppenheimer, for example, but not in the theater. Top Gun: Maverick I went and saw three times. I think it's the first time I've gone to multiple showings of a movie since "Taken".
Most writers these days are diversity hires, anyway.
You have to have a lot of balls to get a job entirely because they needed to fill some racial and gender quota requirements and then start demanding more for your markedly inferior work output.
Seriously, I haven't seen anything compelling, or even good, in years. Anything that seems like it might be good suddenly gets filled with gay people, trans people, weird gender and race swaps (All having NOTHING to do with advancing the story) led by strong women who are all mary sues, and the concept is diminished for it.
Hollywood can't write. Writers who can't write going on strike to get more for the bad writing. The least sympathetic whiners I can think of.
You have to have a lot of balls to get a job entirely because they needed to fill some racial and gender quota requirements and then start demanding more for your markedly inferior work output.
Most of these writers should be paying the audience to watch their crap, not get residuals for it.
What will be left? Hopefully rubble. The content that was flowing before when they were all productively working away, was the same produced by the local sewage pipe.
Best case scenario is as Iger said. Ideally a lot of them lose their homes or apartments, and have to find other work. Years of unlimited money at 0% rates allowed them to fill their staff with diversity hires, and woke NPCs that will happily bend over backwards to inserts every popular (with hollywood) left wing trope of the day without ever producing interesting content worth watching. They all need to be purged.
All the woke kids and diversity hires need to go for hollywood to have a chance at producing something decent again. Would love to see it. In the meantime, maybe they should learn to code so they can help program the AI that can out-write them.
Although I hate Iger's guts just as much as the next person, I'm skeptical that he actually said that. That was reported by Variety, which is hardly an objective source, and then blasted out on the internet by the smug piece of shit Adam Conover. That was the first time I suspected this whole strike was just kayfabe, because you don't make the dippity-doo haired embodiment of "Well, ackshully" the face of your movement if you want mass sympathy.
Hollywood's always going to be full of commies, but at least they were still able to make memorable, decent content up until about 15 years ago. Shit like "Spartacus," "The Robe," "Elmer Gantry," "The Godfather," "Robocop," etc., was all commie propaganda, but they were still great movies. The problem with a Maoist-style cultural revolution is that you can't make anything other than the "eight model plays," and that wears thin really fast.
Wait, there's a writer's strike going on?
Apparently. I haven't watched many new shows or movies out of Hollywood for quite some time.
You'd think the massive dropoff in viewership of awards shows would be some indication that people care a lot less than they think.
They don't care. They don't hear anything but what their sycophants and friends tell them. No one has the balls to tell them the truth - that the normals in flyover country want entertainment, not messages and virtue-signaling.
Not enough of Ricky Gervais to go around.
Holly-who?
Holly Woodstar.
In fairness, I’d quit my job and maybe even my career too (again) if, “He called his son at dinner with Chinese Nationals just to tell him ‘Hey, I’m at dinner.'” was the best that the Navy Seals/Special Forces analogue of my industry could come up with.
FYI, if the art on the story represents the "typical" hollywood writer, that might explain why the crap coming out of the sclerotic industry is such complete shit.
Topical. Why modern movies suck: They're written by children.
https://youtu.be/iIY5b1JMvGs
"Today Now! Interviews The 5-Year-Old Screenwriter Of "Fast Five""
There are still some well-written movies. Inside Out, Coco, Into the Spiderverse, and Luca were all great. But they are getting rarer.
Greedy = I make a lot of money selling valuable services to willing customers, and I'd like to keep the money I earned.
Not greedy = demanding you pay me more out of your profits (after the undertaking proves to be profitable) even though I'm entitled to none of those profits and risk nothing regardless of what happens to the output I deliver.
I fucking hate these people. You want a cut of the profit? Then either a) convince me you deserve to be part of the deal and pay your FAIR SHARE (you love that concept, right?) of equity contributions into the deal or b) accept no or little cash compensation today and ask for a profits interest instead. If the show fails, you get nothing. If I don't make enough money, you also get nothing. And if it's a grand slam, you get paid big time.
You don't get to partake in the profits in exchange for nothing after you've already agreed to sell me the work you fucking nimrods.
Imagine if writers were on the hook for the losses.
Real Housewives of Albuquerque ...
Please, for the love of god, as a Burqueno, tell me you made that up.
And not Rio Rancho, neither.
"You don’t get to partake in the profits "
Profits are for owners. Workers have to make do with something else.
No. All employees of a company get paid according to agreement. Not all profits go to the owners. Sometimes they don't get anything at all.
Are you this clueless to how payment really works?
"All employees of a company get paid according to agreement."
Employees get wages. Owners get profits.
Ultimately, the writers and actors should form their own production companies, right? Some have. And have become very wealthy. Except for those that failed utterly, of course.
"Ultimately, the writers and actors should form their own production companies,"
and hire other schlubs to do the writing and acting.
Will A.I. be a useful tool to elevate and enhance artistic accomplishment, or will it make their jobs obsolete?
Amazing how the laptop/creative class gets really jumpy when a foreign entity starts threatening their jobs...
"A.I. is terrifying," said "Dopesick" and "Empire" creator Danny Strong to Fortune. "Now, I've seen some of ChatGPT's writing and as of now I'm not terrified because Chat is a terrible writer. But who knows? That could change."
You know who else is a terrible writer?
Any coverage of the strike that mentions the demand for more residuals from streaming but doesn't mention that (on average) streaming platforms are already losing money is fundamentally non-serious, whatever else it might say.
Does it matter?
Always remember, the shit is chess, not checkers. So the strategy becomes, how does SAG-AFTRA diversify to get its hooks into ever-widening areas of entertainment, including Google/Youtube/Tik-Tok.
In fact, this is already being explored.
And boom.
The problem with getting influencers and content creators into SAG and WGA is that those platforms are too decentralized right now to have much of an effect. The only way they can really expand their power there is to cut a deal with YouTube and Tik-tok that people making content are required to be in those unions.
The only way they can really expand their power there is to cut a deal with YouTube and Tik-tok that people making content are required to be in those unions.
*scratches chin while thinking*
I'm trying to gameplay a scenario where a critical mass of "creators" join SAG-AFTRA and end up forcing TikTok and Youtube into more generous revenue-sharing schemes.
Diversified apparently equal s 2 platforms with ownership sympathetic to Hollywood politics.
I can't help but think of all the people who got screwed by the WGA, SAG-AFTRA or Actor's Equity one way or another now making movies at home on their laptops or capitalizing on their newfound YouTube and TikTok followings.
Hey, anyone who monetizes their own production on YouTube is a greedy capitalist and strike scab.
When the Hollywood Strike Is Over, What Will be Left?
All of them will be Left. Because they're commie assholes.
Between A.I. and TikTok
LOL. Between A.I. [eyes scan over barren wasteland strewn with wreckages of MCU/LucasFilm/Disney/Disney+, CNN+...] and TikTok
You need to widen the horizons of the wasteland. There are independent films made outside the control of the corporate giants, not to mention hundreds of foreign countries.
I support the actors and writers, and their right to as much work as we can impose. Let's ban all recording technologies, including writing. Think of all the hours they can look forward to, visiting every town and village to deliver nothing but live performances every day and night.
"Think of all the hours they can look forward to, visiting every town and village to deliver nothing but live performances every day and night."
That's theater. Marlon Brando started out in the theater but got sick of doing the same material for weeks on end. It's bit unrealistic to expect writers to tour and perform their material. Leave that for the actors, they are typically better looking.
" Let’s ban all recording technologies, including writing."
Sure. Just as long as we keep class distinctions in place, as god intended.
"That’s theater. Marlon Brando started out in the theater but got sick of doing the same material for weeks on end. It’s bit unrealistic to expect writers to tour and perform their material. Leave that for the actors, they are typically better looking."
It isn't unrealistic. There are actors who've done "the same material" for years and are content with what they do. Writers can just create new plays, musicals and operas like they do with film if they're so inclined.
"Sure. Just as long as we keep class distinctions in place, as god intended."
That's not what your man Karl Marx thought. Technology and "class distinctions" have nothing to do with each other.
"That’s not what your man Karl Marx thought."
You misunderstand. You suggest we ban new technologies. I say that wouldn't change the worker/owner dynamic.
You over looked a simpler argument. The strike doesn't affect unscripted content, or animation. The studios could easily just be betting that the unions will cave before people get sick of that stuff. They could easily be right, because animation is more popular than it used to be.
I could care less about their little cry baby tantrums. If the lot of them were out on strike for the rest of the year, it would be an improvement. They are the reason why crime is so high in that state: they support criminals.
Haven't been to a movie in years as the garbage being presented as "art" belongs in the dumpster. Don't watch television any more , haven't done so for at least 23 years. Don't own a TV /flat screen.
Don't watch movies on Netflix .
As long as the Hollywood trash remain on strike so much the better for the country.
Wait, what? There's a strike in Hollywood? Who knew? More importantly, who cared?
Hopefully when the Hollywood dumpster fire is over there will be nothing left but a hill of ashes.