Some Critics of the Ruling Against Biden's Censorship by Proxy Have a Beef With the 1st Amendment Itself
"Disinformation" researchers alarmed by the injunction against government meddling with social media content admire legal regimes that allow broad speech restrictions.

Some critics of last week's preliminary injunction in Missouri v. Biden, which bars federal officials from encouraging social media platforms to suppress constitutionally protected speech, reject the premise that such contacts amount to government-directed censorship. Other critics, especially researchers who focus on "disinformation" and hate speech, pretty much concede that point but see nothing troubling about it. From their perspective, the problem is that complying with the First Amendment means tolerating inaccurate, misleading, and hateful speech that endangers public health, democracy, and social harmony.
The day after Terry Doughty, a judge on the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Louisiana, issued the injunction, The New York Times gave voice to those concerns in a piece headlined "Disinformation Researchers Fret About Fallout From Judge's Order." According to the subhead, those researchers "said a restriction on government interaction with social media companies could impede efforts to curb false claims about vaccines and voter fraud."
That much is true by definition. Doughty's injunction generally prohibits various agencies and officials from "meeting with social-media companies," "specifically flagging content or posts," or otherwise "urging, encouraging, pressuring, or inducing" the "removal, deletion, suppression, or reduction of content containing protected free speech." The injunction also bars the defendants from "threatening, pressuring, or coercing social-media companies" toward that end and from "urging, encouraging, pressuring, or inducing" them to "change their guidelines for removing, deleting, suppressing, or reducing content containing protected free speech."
The injunction includes some potentially sweeping exceptions. Among other things, it does not apply to "postings involving criminal activity or criminal conspiracies"; "national security threats, extortion, or other threats"; posts that "threaten the public safety or security of the United States"; "foreign attempts to influence elections"; posts "intending to mislead voters about voting requirements and procedures"; or "criminal efforts to suppress voting," "provide illegal campaign contributions," or launch "cyber-attacks against election infrastructure."
Some of these categories are commodious enough to encompass constitutionally protected speech by American citizens. In particular, "national security" is a broad, ill-defined excuse that might apply, for example, to information derived from classified sources or even to criticism of U.S. surveillance practices. The goal of resisting "foreign attempts to influence elections" can easily result in misidentification of Americans as Russian agents or mischaracterization of accurate reporting as foreign "disinformation."
But insofar as Doughty's order has bite, which it presumably does as it relates to COVID-19 "misinformation" and speech embracing Donald Trump's stolen-election fantasy, those anxious researchers surely are right that it "could impede efforts to curb false claims about vaccines and voter fraud." Notably, these critics take it for granted that preventing the government from demanding removal of disfavored content will have a substantial impact on the speech that platforms allow.
"Most misinformation or disinformation that violates social platforms' policies is flagged by researchers, nonprofits, or people and software at the platforms themselves," the Times notes. But "academics and anti-disinformation organizations often complained that platforms were unresponsive to their concerns." The paper reinforces that point with a quote from Viktorya Vilk, director for digital safety and free expression (!) at PEN America: "Platforms are very good at ignoring civil society organizations and our requests for help or requests for information or escalation of individual cases. They are less comfortable ignoring the government."
The reason social media companies are "less comfortable ignoring the government," of course, is that it exercises coercive power over them and could use that power to punish them for failing to censor speech it considers dangerous. In the 155-page opinion laying out the reasoning behind his injunction, Doughty notes implicit threats against recalcitrant platforms, including anti-trust actions, new regulations, and increased civil liability for content posted by users.
Doughty cites myriad communications that show administration officials expected platforms to promptly comply with the government's censorship "requests," which they typically did, and repeatedly complained when companies were less than fully cooperative. He emphasizes how keen Facebook et al. were to assuage President Joe Biden's anger at moderation practices that he said were "killing people."
The major platforms eagerly joined what Surgeon General Vivek Murthy described as a "whole-of-society" effort to combat the "urgent threat to public health" posed by "health misinformation," which he said might include "legal and regulatory measures." It beggars belief to suppose that the threat of such measures played no role in the platforms' responses to the administration's demands.
As the fretful researchers quoted by the Times see it, that is all as it should be. "Several disinformation researchers worried that the ruling could give cover for social media platforms, some of which have already scaled back their efforts to curb misinformation, to be even less vigilant before the 2024 election," the paper reports. Again, that concern assumes that the interactions covered by Doughty's injunction resulted in stricter rules and more aggressive enforcement, meaning less speech than otherwise would have been allowed.
The Times paraphrases Bond Benton, an associate communication professor at Montclair State University, who worries that Doughty's ruling "carried a message that misinformation qualifies as speech and its removal as the suppression of speech." As usual, the Times glides over disputes about what qualifies as "misinformation," which according to the Biden administration includes truthful content that it considers misleading or unhelpful. But since even a demonstrably false assertion "qualifies as speech" under the First Amendment, the "message" that troubles Benton is an accurate statement of constitutional law. That does not mean platforms cannot decide for themselves what content they are willing to host, but it does mean the government should not try to dictate such decisions.
The concerns expressed by Doughty's critics go beyond health-related and election-related "misinformation," and they go beyond the soundness of this particular ruling. In an interview with the Times, Imran Ahmed, chief executive of the Center for Countering Digital Hate, complained that the U.S. takes "a 'particularly fangless' approach to dangerous content compared with places like Australia and the European Union." Those comparisons are telling.
Australia's Online Safety Act empowers regulators to order removal of "illegal and restricted content," including images and speech classified as "cyberbullying" and "content that is inappropriate for children, such as high impact violence and nudity." Internet service providers that do not comply with complaint-triggered takedown orders within 24 hours are subject to civil penalties. The government also can order ISPs to block access to "material depicting, promoting, inciting or instructing in abhorrent violent conduct" for up to three months, after which the order can be renewed indefinitely.
Freedom House notes that Australia's law includes "no requirement for the eSafety Commissioner to give reasons for removal notices and provides no opportunity for users to respond to complaints." The organization adds that "civil society groups, tech companies, and other commentators have raised concerns about the law, including its speedy takedown requirements and its potential disproportionate effect on marginalized groups, such as sex workers, sex educators, LGBT+ people, and artists."
Australia's scheme plainly restricts or prohibits speech that would be constitutionally protected in the United States. Likewise the European Union's Digital Services Act, which covers "illegal content," a category that is defined broadly to include anything that runs afoul of a member nation's speech restrictions. E.U. countries such as France and Germany prohibit several types of speech that are covered by the First Amendment, including Holocaust denial, disparagement of minority groups, and promotion of racist ideologies.
These are the models that Ahmed thinks the U.S. should be following. "It's bananas that you can't show a nipple on the Super Bowl but Facebook can still broadcast Nazi propaganda, empower stalkers and harassers, undermine public health and facilitate extremism in the United States," he told the Times. "This court decision further exacerbates that feeling of impunity social media companies operate under, despite the fact that they are the primary vector for hate and disinformation in society."
Critics like Ahmed, in short, do not merely object to Doughty's legal analysis; they have a beef with the First Amendment itself, which allows Americans to express all sorts of potentially objectionable opinions. If you value that freedom, you probably consider it a virtue of the American legal system. But if your priority is eliminating "hate and disinformation," the First Amendment is, at best, an inconvenient obstacle.
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Where’s the beef?
Simply criminalize lying, not anything more complicated and obscure that can be manipulated with double speak.
Lying is coercion. It compels people with the falsified authority of truth to act in the liars interest instead of their own.
Lying is not protected by the first amendment. If it were, perjury and fraud wouldn’t be crimes.
Lies are determined when truth exposes them. When we criminalize lying we will need to codify in law that truth is determined only with correctly applied logic and science. Not belief. Not votes. Not hearsay. Not mandate.
None of these woke cancel culture champions of censorship want lying to be criminalized because they simply want to coerce everyone to comply with their lies.
Only when the crime is lying and the evidence against it truth discerned with logic and science will we finally enjoy freedom from coercion.
How would you rationalize the illegality of lying with the freedom of religion? Even if you grant that there is one true religion (good luck proving your faith is not a lie) that renders all other religions lies.
Beyond that, this is a ridiculously stupid idea anyway. This will essentially shut down speech that goes against any mainstream consensus on established truth. Probably not something I would expect a Holocaust-denying whack job to promote.
The simplicity of the answer to what confounds you demonstrates the shallowness of your perspective.
If the religious truly have faith, they don’t need to claim truth when it cannot be proven. They simply believe.
Your second paragraph illustrates both your bigotry and that you can’t even comprehend what you read.
So in your world, people would have every right to lie to themselves (which is what faith amounts to.)
Well, if people are lying to themselves, how can they tell what is true or false?
And what if the arbiters of truth and falsehood are lying to themselves with faith, as they would have every right to do?
And if people have a right to lie to themselves, and if the arbiters of truth lie to themselves and can’t tell truth from falsehood, then doesn’t that make your whole society that outlaws lying into a Big Lie? (And where have we heard that term before?)
Fuck Off, Nazi!
You demonstrate the shallowness of thought that you base your perspective on.
When an answer is unknown, belief, faith is not a lie. That’s what they’re for fuckwit.
Belief in something regardless of evidence includes belief in something against evidence.
But a mind's proper function for human survival is to grasp evidence to find the truth and act according to that truth to insure survival.
Therefore, believing something regardless of or against evidence is giving up truth for non-truth, an act of self-deception, of lying to one's self and of ultimately acting against one's survival.
If your ideal society doesn't address the self-deception of faith, then you haven't really outlawed lying. Again, your ideal society is based on The Big Lie.
Fuck Off, Nazi!
“Belief in something regardless of evidence includes belief in something against evidence”
If you understood logic and science you wouldn’t make such an ignorant comment.
Evidence that supports a claim doesn’t prove truth unless it is also supported by correctly applied logic and science.
Leaving a restaurant isn’t proof that someone just ate. It would be lying to claim they did on that evidence alone.
You are demonstrating, with your statements, evidence that you don’t correctly apply logic and science. Maybe the truth is that you can’t. Or maybe you just don’t want to because it refutes the lies you tell yourself and others.
It doesn’t matter which because correctly applied logic and science like what I have presented, refutes your lies.
Greetings, Leo. Long time no see. (Yeah, I know that’s verboten for some reason.)
Herr Misek would happily endorse government restriction of “Misinformation/Disinformation/Malinformation” (MDM *Growl!*)
The only condition would be that Herr Misek or someone like Josef Goebbels would be the one determining what is MDM and what is truth.
His proposal would put Larry The Cable Guy and his Blue Collar Comedy buddies in a death camp with Jerry Seinfeld for swapping lies in a fishing boat!
Larry would be the one wearing a Camouflage Rectangle with a fish on it!
They’d cut up the brain of Jeff Foxworthy since he’s not Smarter Than A Fifth Grader! (The bloody baboons!)
Jeff Dunham’s wooden friends would all fall under the chain saw, since ventriloquism is also a form of lying!
And Ron White would be hauled off never to be seen again for calling himself “Tater Salad!”
“Tater Salad’s” last words would be: “Pulling every vehicle driving down the sidewalk is profiling!…And profiling is wrong!”
The world would a decidedly less fun place with Herr Misek in control.
No Blue Collar Comedy…
No World’s Biggest Liar Contest in Cumbria, England…
No surprise parties…
No proprietary information to protect companies from Intellectual Property Piracy…
No art or music or song, since the Totalitarian philosopher Plato held that these distract man from the Forms that are reality…
And no Frederick Douglass safely traversing The Underground Railroad or Anne Frank and her family secure in the attic because good people were willing to bend a statement of fact to preserve the truth of their humanity.
You can’t comprehend what you read either you irrational fuckwit.
I know what I read from you, and your view is shared by every Grand Inquisitor, every Bluenose, every Harper Valley PTA, every Commissar, every Gang of Four Struggle Sessioner, every Wokester, everyone who ever wanted tyranny over the mind of Man!
But since your version has it's own flavor, I address you in it's unique term:
Fuck Off, Nazi!
Didn’t even have to peak at that gray box to know you were talking to Herr Misek. Not even Tony has advocated for making lying illegal.
This fuckwit alludes that it has pressed the bigotry button which makes not considering arguments automatic.
The bigot doesn’t have much will power though does it?
Hahaha.
Yep, our favorite Gabby Gauleiter!
Both Herr Misek and Comrade Tony are Nihilists in their own special ways. Only the truths they deny change to victimize different groups of the innocent.
If lying were a crime, you would be in solitary in Terre Haute.
Prove your claim you dime a dozen liar.
Irrefutable evidence of logic and science will do.
Who is the arbiter of truth? Was it a "lie" to say the world was round 500 years ago? Is it a lie to say that UFO's are real? What about white lies "you look pretty in that dress". Would you want that to be illegal? What about unrealistic expectations or encouragement "Come on Dallas, we can beat the Eagles". Your overly simplistic analysis is completely unworkable.
Truth is reality and it’s discerned not arbitrated.
If it were decided that gravity didn’t exist would we all float away? No.
The best tools we have to recognize truth aka reality are correctly applied logic and science. They can’t be correctly applied and not discern truth.
If you have irrefutable evidence of logic or science then it’s not a lie to claim something.
If the truth causes conflict for your fat wife maybe she’ll be inspired to either lose weight, you, or accept reality.
Hope, belief or faith in the unknown isn’t lying though as the probability discerned with logic and science approaches 0%, doing so approaches irrationality, lying. Regardless, claiming that something is true without irrefutable proof is lying.
When lying is criminalized people who can’t prove truth will simply either claim they don’t know, say nothing or lie anyways and break the law.
Is bringing the perpetrators of perjury and fraud to justice currently unworkable? Perhaps you should reflect on why not coercing people with lies seems so “unworkable” to you?
Because stopping the harm of coercion caused by lying is necessary in a just society.
Another real violation of the first amendment is the enforcement of non disclosure agreements.
If free speech is an inalienable right, meaning one that can’t be taken, given away or sold, then it is unconstitutional to allow a legal contract to do so.
If you lie, you do so at the constant constitutional risk of exposure by anyone who knows the truth.
What’d I tell ya about this dumb asshole, folks?
And does the Inalienable Right to Freedom of Expression forbid remaining silent? Does exercising freedom of expression require 24/7/365 expression, non-stop, awake or asleep? How is this even physiologically possible?
And does the Inalienable Right to Liberty mean that self-restraint in anything is forbidden? Doesn’t this result ultimately in Nihilism and death?
And if the Right to Property is Inalienable, does this mean you cannot either give away or sell your property also? What the Hell does this do to Economics?
For an Individual Right to be Inalienable means that it’s existence is inseparable from Man’s nature as a being who must think, create, produce, exchange, and keep and enjoy the fruits of such thought and effort. The only way to separate Man from all of his rights is by death.
It does not mean the fruits of exercising rights cannot be given away or sold, nor does it mean that an Individual may not willfully refrain from exercise of that right in a particular manner.
Among the Inalienable Rights of Individuals is the right to refuse to go along with those who support violation of the Rights of other Individuals, such as by proclaiming:
Fuck Off, Nazi!
“It does not mean the fruits of exercising rights cannot be given away or sold,”
Refuting your ridiculous lies is as easy as reciting from the dictionary.
Inalienable
: incapable of being alienated, surrendered, or transferred inalienable rights
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/inalienable
Hahaha
"Simply criminalize lying, not anything more complicated and obscure that can be manipulated with double speak. Lying is coercion. It compels people with the falsified authority of truth to act in the liars interest instead of their own."
Oh, good idea! We can start by outlawing Holocaust denial. Because Holocaust deniers are lying through their teeth to make their "case".
Oh, you forgot something, didn't you? You don't get to decide what is "true" or "false". Some bureaucrat does.
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Overall, a good article by Sullum. From a headline that begins with "Some Critics", I expected a "both sides" argument and was happily disappointed in that.
Too bad he couldn't bring himself to include somewhere in the piece, "As many commentors on my articles have been trying to get me to admit for years..."
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SRG thinks discussing ideas should be illegal.
>>Imran Ahmed, chief executive of the Center for Countering Digital Hate, complained that the U.S. takes "a 'particularly fangless' approach to dangerous content
the uneducated shouldn't be chief executives of anything.
The only problem with the ruling is that it did not go far enough to protect the First Amendment. Perhaps that's because it was intended to narrowly address the issues in the actual case, but I was still disappointed. I hope Biden DOES appeal it to the Supreme Court where they may be less inclined to uphold the First Amendment "narrowly" although I've been disappointed there many times before now by Justices afraid of their own shadows. Or maybe Doughty was leaving wiggle room in his decision to allow the "conservative" ilk of First Amendment foes to suppress disfavored "liberal" opinions during their turn at bat. You know ... the ones who find the First Amendment "inconvenient" when they want to outlaw "promotion" of abortions and contraception?
"...I hope Biden DOES appeal it to the Supreme Court where they may be less inclined to uphold the First Amendment “narrowly....”
From your keyboard to God's screen!
The true threat to this nation is not, as is conjured in the minds of federal agencies as “domestic terrorists,” which of course means “right wing extremists, such as those who attend school board meetings and have the temerity to question and complain. The real and present danger is from self styled “progressive” Democrats who openly brag of their goals and objectives in mainstream media.
Is this an example of when journalists do "some people say" when they mean themselves? Reason largely had no problem with censorship until the collusion woth government was too big to pretend not to notice. Reason, Sullum especially, has also mentioned going after Trump for incitement and applauded the defamation suits against Fox and Trump. Reason doesn't have a 1a principle to stand on.
For sound economic perspective go to https://honesteconomics.substack.com/
I would never censor this, but I do reserve the right to say: No!
How are progressives going to make us conform to their visions if we are allowed to say anything we want?
What do you think the DOJ is for?
Some Critics of the USA Against Biden's Nazi-Censorship by Proxy Have a Beef With the USA.
No need to write a whole article explanation. There are Nazi's [Na]tional So[zi]alists in American politics who literally HATE the USA (by its very definition). The only reason they are here is to bleed/steal/conquer-and-consume this nation to its death.
...because that's what socialists do. Conquer and Consume.
Imran Ahmed, chief executive of the Center for Countering Digital Hate, complained that the U.S. takes "a 'particularly fangless' approach to dangerous content compared with places like Australia and the European Union."
Bitch needs to get the fuck out of my country.
The Times can suck a bag of dicks. And thank God (or who/whatever) the Founders added the Bill of Rights.
I know some of the founders thought they were superfluous, but history has shown the government fully incapable of NOT trying to violate rights that should be fucking self-evident.
I’m surprised the “respected” media can’t see how restricting social media and online speech could easily be used against them, say for example when a social conservative administration decides to disallow speech on where to get an abortion or care for your tranny kid, but maybe I shouldn’t be.
They expect that suppressing dissent eill mean that they never lose power.
Wait ... you think they can't see that? You think their opinions and content are based on some kind of free speech principle? I'm surprised that you're surprised! If you want to see the "respected" news organizations suddenly shift gears back to the First Amendment, just wait until a conservative administration disallows speech on where to get an abortion. No, you shouldn't be surprised that their principles shift as the narrative shifts.
Neither Holocaust denial nor bigoted comments belong on a Holocaust education discussion forum. Moderators have an ethical duty to not only remove posts, but ban users who, for example, deny the Holocaust or defame the Judenvolk.
If the moderators fail to comply with their ethical duties, it is neither the states' nor the fed's business at all.
Does that make sense?
How much of a Fvckin idiot are you? The government is the one telling the mods who to ban on this scenario
(Only) your last sentence makes sense.
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"... Trump's stolen-election fantasy ..."
Editorialize much, Jacob Sullum?