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Government Spending

The Next President Needs To Cut Spending

At a minimum, the national debt should be smaller than the size of the economy. A committed president just might be able to deliver.

Veronique de Rugy | 6.29.2023 1:35 PM

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Election season is getting into gear, and that means politicians of all stripes making promises about what they'll do for the American people if elected or reelected. I'd like to hear promises to get government out of the way and allow entrepreneurship and market competition to spur genuine and sustainable economic growth, including in the energy and housing sectors.

This may be what America needs most, but I will settle for a promise to ensure that the national debt stays smaller than the size of the economy. A committed president just might be able to deliver.

I never thought I'd be happy with keeping the debt no higher than 100 percent of gross domestic product (GDP). I'm more of a "cut the hell out of all this everything" kind of girl. Compromise is particularly hard to swallow considering that way back in 2007, before the Great Recession and long before all the pandemic spending, the U.S. debt-to-GDP ratio was about 60 percent, and I thought that was too high.

However, age has taught me the value of perspective. At the end of 2022, the U.S. national debt stood at 97 percent of GDP. Prior to that, it touched triple digits. In 10 years' time, the number is expected to grow to 115 percent. The fiscal beast reaches 200 percent in 30 years. Even this projection is too optimistic since it assumes undisturbed prosperity, low interest rates, no new programs, no emergencies, and low inflation. It also assumes that the Department of the Treasury will find buyers, at low interest rates, for $114 trillion in extra debt. Yeah, right.

Keeping debt no higher than GDP is a better and more realistic objective than the usual Republican sound bite promise of balancing the budget—not counting entitlement and defense spending—in 10 years. This would require the implementer to cut non-excluded appropriations by 15 percent, 20 percent, or 30 percent relatively quickly, a remarkably unrealistic idea considering most government programs are supported by powerful interest groups who fight tooth and nail against any proposed cuts. Such political promises don't end up happening.

So here we are. I would be impressed if any of the politicians hitting the campaign trail promise what I'm asking for. The Cato Institute's Chris Edwards calculated that staying under a 100 percent debt-to-GDP ratio would require a $6 trillion reduction in spending over the coming decade, or about 8 percent of what's projected. While politicians will claim this will eviscerate the budget, in reality, it would merely slow the growth rate of federal outlays, which would still rise from $6.4 trillion this year to about $8.6 trillion in 2033. As Edwards noted to me, "That would be an aggressive cut from an Establishment perspective, but a nice goal for congressional reformers."

The politics will be harder than the reductions. Think about the hardship it was for Republicans and Democrats to reach a debt ceiling deal that will, at best, reduce the growth trend of spending by around $2 trillion over 10 years. (That's assuming the caps placed on spending hold and a spending-addicted Congress doesn't abuse the emergency loophole built into the plan. I wouldn't bet my house, or even my garden hose, on that.) Democrats aren't interested in fiscal discipline while Republicans' understanding of it mostly focuses on big tax cuts paid with public debt.

Still, we can hope that a president with a mandate and a lot of political willpower takes advantage of the many ways to go about delivering on this plan.

The literature on austerity reveals that the most effective way to reduce the debt-to-GDP ratio without affecting the economy too much or for long is to adopt fiscal adjustment packages that consist mostly of spending cuts. Packages based on entitlement reforms are more politically challenging but also yield much better results. Considering that Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security are the drivers of debt growth, reforming these programs must play a significant role.

There are other ways, too. The Committee for a Responsible Budget, for instance, has a plan to stabilize the debt by cutting $7 trillion—including interest savings—over 10 years. Sixty percent of the reduction comes from the spending side, including entitlement reform, while the rest comes from revenue increases (including closing special interest tax breaks). Others will have more plans. It's not my preferred path, but it's a path.

Setting a debt level that doesn't exceed GDP is a realistic and doable goal. That's exactly what we should want from someone seeking to be our president.

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  1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    And where was this four years ago when the Reason editors went ga-ga over Joe Biden?

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

      Writing about Fatass Donnie's record spending and deficits.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Honest question shrike. Who do you think you are tricking by blaming all of covid on Trump despite all of the spend bills being pass with veto proof legislation and Democrats asking for another package after Biden was elected?

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      3. Liberty Lover   2 years ago (edited)

        While neither one is perfect, I still prefer a fat ass over a demented pedophile. But I understand that pedophiles stick together!

    2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

      No, Donald Trump Did Not 'Shrink' Government
      Annual federal spending grew by $940 billion under his signature, even before the coronavirus.
      MATT WELCH | 8.27.2020 3:55 PM
      .
      So under Trump's signature, before any true crisis hit, the annual price tag of government went up by $937 billion in less than four years—more than the $870 billion price hike Obama produced in an eight-year span that included a massive federal response to a financial meltdown.

      https://reason.com/2020/08/27/no-donald-trump-did-not-shrink-government/

      WELCH HAS TDS!

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Please, Pluggo, enlighten the crowd with how you got your original moniker, "Sarah Palin's Buttplug" banned and why you're #2. IIRC, it had something to do with hardcore kiddie porn and Reason having to scrub the thread clean with Draino.

      2. JesseAz   2 years ago

        In Barack Obama's last full fiscal year of 2016 (covering, as fiscal years do, the period from October 1 the previous year to September 30 of the annum in question), the federal government spent $3.85 trillion—$2.43 trillion on "mandatory" items (Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, etc.), $1.16 trillion on discretionary outlays (more than half of which went to the Pentagon), and $230 billion on debt service.
        .
        $2.98 trillion mandatory, $1.44 trillion discretionary, and $380 billion in interest.

        So assuming Trump wrote the budgets (he did not), the majority of the increases were in mandatory and interest. Which policies did Trump utilize Executive Orders to increase those? Because in instances like the mandatory budget, he actually issues orders to try to reduce spending (the only thing he can do outside of Congress).

        https://www.vox.com/2018/4/10/17221292/trump-welfare-executive-order-work-requirements

        So what is your argument Shrike?

    3. sarcasmic   2 years ago

      Nobody went ga-ga over Biden. Oh..... you're trying to get points with your girlfriends. Never mind. Carry on.

      1. DesigNate   2 years ago

        You realize what you’re doing is just signaling to the others, right?

  2. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

    100% will never happen. Politicians ain't too stupid to see that's just the camel's nose under the tent threatening to send it all tumbling down that slippery slope to a balanced budget.

  3. Eeyore   2 years ago

    The next president will want to go into debt to the tune of 12 trillion a year.

  4. Jerry B.   2 years ago

    “A committed president just might be able to deliver.”

    But if Joe is committed, the Kamala takes over, per the 25th Amendment.

    1. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

      "Cut spending? You'd have to be crazy to try to do something like that!"

  5. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>Setting a debt level that doesn't exceed GDP is a realistic and doable goal.

    the Ruling Class lolz.

  6. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    I eagerly await Reason's list of who they're reluctantly voting for to usher in this proposal.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      And we'll just whistle past the fact that Congress holds the purse strings.

      1. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

        As with many things, we now embrace the Imperial presidency around here.

  7. Honest Economics   2 years ago

    For sound economic perspective go to https://honesteconomics.substack.com/

  8. Mickey Rat   2 years ago (edited)

    The next president needs to make the country to eat its broccoli and go to bed early.

    This is why Mom & Dad are not elected positions.

  9. MWAocdoc   2 years ago

    I realize that "I'll settle for" is a rhetorical device for writers, but I'm willing to bet that the next President will not care even a little bit what Veronique De Rugy will "settle for." It's highly unlikely that the next President will keep deficit spending below the GDP ... or the one after that ... or the one after that ... or ...

  10. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

    If a president actually tried to veto a budget with borrowing in it Congress would heartily override the veto in an orgy of bipartisanship.

    1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

      Remember "Read my lips" Bush? He foolishly thought he could balance the budget by raising revenue. Got him kicked out of office. Slick Willie came close with the dot-com boom and the 'peace dividend' helping the economy.
      Since then though there's been a long series of "emergencies" excusing constant budget increases that are never scaled back.

      1. DesigNate   2 years ago

        Didn’t Senior agree to Democrats increasing taxes if they cut spending and then they only did the one they like to do? Or am I misremembering (totally possible)?

        1. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)

          I don’t remember.

        2. The Last American Hero   2 years ago

          That is exactly what happened. He campaigned on read my lips no new taxes, then went back in the spirit of bipartisan compromise, then got spit roasted by the Dems. Cry no tears for senior, politics is dishonest work and he should have known better, but never trust a democrat.

  11. JesseAz   2 years ago

    One of the candidates has already stated he wants to cut 4 departments.

    Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said Wednesday that if he is elected president he would seek to close four federal agencies as part of an effort to reduce the size of government.
    .
    "We would do Education, we would do Commerce, we'd do Energy, and we would do IRS," DeSantis said in an interview with Fox News’ Martha MacCallum when he was asked whether he favored closing any agencies.

    Education: $194,419,726,343
    Commerce: $109,134,681,014
    Energy: $160,705,191,215

    Now I don't think IRS will ever be cut, so left that out. But think Reason needs some more hit pieces against him about being mean to Disney instead. The real True Libertarian care abouts.

    1. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

      Without the Education Fepartment how would the marxist propaganda, CRT and gender theory get pushed onto children for them to applaud.

      Without Commerce and Energy how can they tell us the Green new Deal is neutral policy and climate apocalypse is just a fact?

      1. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

        And that just highlights how much more difficult it would be to control 50 state education departments rather than one central planning federal department.

    2. MWAocdoc   2 years ago

      Didn't you get the memo? Presidential primary candidates don't always do what they say they're going to do while trying to get the nomination. When the pundits say, "The President needs to ..." what they really mean is, "We need them to ..." which is, of course, not at all the same thing.

  12. Cyto   2 years ago

    Koch raised $70 million to stop Trump.

    Anyone surprised?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/29/us/politics/koch-network-trump-2024.html

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      Not really. Charles became friends with George before the election.

    2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

      Good.

      1. DesigNate   2 years ago

        I’ll reserve judgement until I see who’s ass gets the best kissing (or who they decide not to attack).

    3. The Last American Hero   2 years ago

      I am given the nonstop hit pieces from Reason on the only Republican that can win in 2024.

      1. Nelson   2 years ago

        Any Republican other than Trump will beat Biden, but the wingnuts will probably screw this up the way they screwed up PA. Nominating Trump is Doug Mastriano 2.0.

  13. EscherEnigma   2 years ago

    History has shown that the best way to cut the budget is to have a Democrat president and a Republican majority in at least one of the House or Senate (but it has to have competent leadership).

    Unfortunately, the House currently has McCarthy as it's Republican leadership. So until he's ousted (doubtful), the best hope is for Republicans to take the senate 'cause the House Republicans are basically useless as a governing body right now.

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      The biggest growth discussed is is mandatory programs. Programs dems expand through rule making and EOs. A lot of the growth from that spending that shrike cited was due to ACA.

      This premise is false if you dig deeper than facial analysis. Debt and mandatory programs drive the deficit. A democratic president will never vote to lower mandatory spending.

      1. Nelson   2 years ago

        "A lot of the growth from that spending that shrike cited was due to ACA."

        When you say things like this, while ignoring Medicare Part D, which requires the government to pay full price for medication, it shows that you only believe what you want to believe.

        I'll be interested to see the decreases in vost for Medicare (and Medicaid? I'm not sure if they have always been able to negotiate volume pricing) when the cost of pharmaceuticals drops by a third. There are a lot of old people who take a lot of medicine on Medicare.

    2. Rat on a train (FR)   2 years ago

      The strongest correlation of decreased deficits is Republican control of the House.

    3. TJJ2000   2 years ago

      It only looks that way because Democrats are such wild spenders and actually want to spend the USA to death (kill it for their Nazi-Empire). It's no secret; they open spout it all the time.

      It's not hard to see a $2T Democrat trifecta get cut wildly but apparently it's easy to see Trumps Administration + [R] congress raise it by a whole whopping $1B/yr -- (ironically; less than the per-year average, inflation adjusted, of the USA entire history).

      The only podium [R]-spending gets is NOT STOPPING Democrats "Cares Act" in which [D] not only wrote the bill but controlled the house as well.

  14. Ezra MacVie   2 years ago

    The economy does not have a "size." The GDP is an annual RATE. The debt is an AMOUNT. The deficit is a RATE.
    Got it?

    1. Nelson   2 years ago (edited)

      “The GDP is an annual RATE. … The deficit is a RATE.”

      You’ll have to explain that to me. GDP is an estimate if the total economic production in a fiscal year. Same with the deficit, but for spending. Even if you wanted to break it down by month, you wouldn’t say, “the GDP is $X billion per month”, you would say, “the GDP so far is $X billion.”. A runnung total, not a rate.

  15. DesigNate   2 years ago

    First: It doesn’t really matter who gets elected president if Congress doesn’t have the balls to actually cut spending.

    Second: we don’t even have to do anything too drastic, just reduce spending to like 2018 levels.

    1. Nelson   2 years ago

      Sure. All they have to do is repeal every spending law from the last 5 years. How hard could that be?

      They'd also have to repeal the Trump tax cuts, because those cost a fortune.

      Shorter: the deficit isn't simple to solve.

      1. DesigNate   2 years ago

        It would require the next budget they pass actually cutting spending, not repealing previous budgets.

        Also, I know it’s an article of faith with some people, but I’d like to say two things in regards to revenue and tax cuts: 1. It’s not the governments fucking money, so the tax cuts didn’t “cost” them anything. Never mind the fact that revenue went up. 2. The federal government took in $4.05TT in 2021. 8 times more than they took in the year I was born. So even if we took the premise that it “cost” them money at face value, We. Do. Not. Have. A. Revenue. Problem.

      2. TJJ2000   2 years ago

        Surely STEALING more is the right premise (tax cuts). Giving criminals more STOLEN money will make them stop spending... /s

  16. Warren   2 years ago

    HA HA HA HA
    Never gonna happen. Our cities will burn and streets will run red with blood before the US Government cuts spending.

    1. Nelson   2 years ago

      It could if Republicans control both houses and the Presidency, focus on fiscal issues instead of the culture wars, reject supply-side economics, and refuse to spend more than they take in ...

      Yeah, we're screwed.

    2. TJJ2000   2 years ago

      Why wouldn't it; Gov-Gun criminals are already using ***GUN*** force to get the money; why wouldn't they use GUNS and kill when they can no longer STEAL?

      What to do when government starts working for/as the criminals?

  17. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

    Can't wait for you all to support the DNC puppet and their slate of destructive policies.

    1. TJJ2000   2 years ago

      I've always wondered how voters could be so stupid until the 2020 election when it was shown all the stupid votes came from mystery ballots in the mail. Course it was such a great success now the Nazi's want mystery "stuff-the-vote" drop-boxes on every corner.

  18. Dace Highlander   2 years ago

    Why can't the current President set a realistic goal of just a 1% budget cut ACROSS THE BOARD of all budgets. In 4 to 5 years of following this plan, the budget would be balanced. There is so much fat now in budgets that departments could easily absorb the first year (possibly) the second year with no impact what so ever. It's not impossible.

    1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

      He’s a Democrat. Democrats believe that government spending always stimulates the economy, just as Republicans believe tax cuts always stimulate the economy. That means spending cuts and tax increases are off the table.

      1. TJJ2000   2 years ago (edited)

        CENSORED subject: Trumps Tarriffs….
        Apparently to Democrats: It’s just all about taxing the ‘icky’ ones.
        As-if they didn’t spout this ‘icky-rich’ will pay for everything narrative all the time.

        Part of the slavery mentality of excuses; Dehumanizing the 'icky' people so "armed-theft" and enslavement of them is emotionally justifiable.

    2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

      Balancing the budget is as easy as freezing spending while inflation increases revenues until they balance out.
      Problem is that people dependent upon government money won’t like it, and they vote.

      1. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

        Inflation eats away at buying power so everyone just clamors for MORE MONEY from the Givermint.

        1. TJJ2000   2 years ago

          ^^^ THIS ^^^. For those who actually work/produce anyways. The riches assets just keep going up in price with inflation. Inflation is the perfect BS scam to funnel value away from the working into the hands of do-nothing rich.

          It's just another form of theft.

    3. Nelson   2 years ago

      "Why can’t the current President set a realistic goal of just a 1% budget cut ACROSS THE BOARD"

      As the article pointed out, a lot of the growth is in non-discretionary spending. So you wouldn't have to reduce by 1% per year, you'd have to reduce by a net if 1% per year. That would require a large cut each year (6%? 7%? More?).

      Any plan to reduce the deficit that starts, "All we have to do ..." won't work because reducing the deficit is a difficult thing to accomplish.

      It's made harder by the fact the Democrats believe tax increases, not spending cuts, are the answer. Only Republicans talk like they support spending cuts, but they don't actually do it when they have power.

      1. damikesc   2 years ago

        There is no actual thing as non-discretionary spending.

        If the government tomorrow said "You know what? We're going to cut Medicare by 10%" --- even if the spending is "non-discretionary" --- it would be cut.

        EVERYTHING, ultimately, is discretionary.

  19. NOYB2   2 years ago

    There are other ways, too. The Committee for a Responsible Budget, for instance, has a plan to stabilize the debt by cutting $7 trillion—including interest savings—over 10 years. Sixty percent of the reduction comes from the spending side, including entitlement reform, while the rest comes from revenue increases

    How about increasing revenue by imposing high tariffs on imports from communist countries, like China?

    1. mad.casual   2 years ago

      No. No. No. Those tariffs are just import taxes on the domestic population. The only way to deal with violent, oppressive/hostile foreign regimes is to either; simply continue to send them mountains of cash for what domestically would be considered ill-gotten goods even by libertarian standards, impose sanctions on them and their people, dump mountains of cash on their foreign adversaries, conduct rampant globe-spanning counterintelligence operations against them, open and direct warfare, or a combination of the above. None of those things burden domestic taxpayers and all are 100% safe and effective with no downsides.

      Oh, and open the borders to friends and foes of the hostile regime alike.

    2. Nelson   2 years ago

      "How about increasing revenue by imposing high tariffs on imports from communist countries, like China?"

      Because taxing American consumers will shrink the economy, which is dependant on commerce. Plus the retaliatory tariffs on American goods will hurt the profits of American companies. Tariffs don't work to change behavior or raise revenue. They just shift where the revenue is generated, and always result in a net negative to total revenues.

  20. Liberty Lover   2 years ago

    Congress needs to cut spending. All the president can do is say "nay" or "yea" (veto or sign the bill). If the party controlling Congress is his party, he can have more influence on the budget, but the presidents budget is a request, and the president is more likely to veto if the opposition party hold Congress.

    "Legislative checks and balances is one of the key inventions that convinced Alexander Hamilton in Federalist No. 9 that the cause of liberty was not lost, in spite of the failure of previous republics throughout the ages. According to the Framers, powers ought not only to be distributed between the three branches of government (separation of powers), but Congress, as the most powerful branch, should be divided into two, with different constituencies, term lengths, sizes, and functions for each house. In this spirit, the Constitution allocates the power to raise revenue—part of the power of the purse—to the House of Representatives, the legislative body closest to the people. Regrettably, this clause has had little effect in practice as the Senate has construed its power to amend so broadly as to replace the entire text of revenue bills that had originated in the House. Members of the House of Representatives should be more zealous in protecting this exclusive prerogative. This essay is adapted from The Heritage Guide to the Constitution for a new series providing constitutional guidance for lawmakers.

    “All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.” — Article I, Section 7, Clause 1"

    https://www.heritage.org/the-constitution/report/hands-my-purse-why-money-bills-originate-the-house

  21. n00bdragon   2 years ago

    If spending were a flood, the children of those responsible have grown up in boats, their children have never seen dry land and swim more than they walk, and their children are starting to evolve flippers and gills. At what point does "maybe we should turn off the water?" just seem all rather pointless?

  22. Liberty Lover   2 years ago

    How about this president cut spending right now?

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