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War on Drugs

Senators Want To Declare Fentanyl a National Security Threat

Plus: SCOTUS won't hear Reddit sex trafficking case, debt deal would increase spending on SNAP benefits, and more...

Elizabeth Nolan Brown | 5.31.2023 9:30 AM

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The spread of the synthetic opioid fentanyl—and associated overdose deaths—has become an endless font of bad policy ideas from government drug warriors. The latest ill-conceived responses come from Sens. Tim Kaine (D–Va.) and Joni Ernst (R–Iowa), who want to declare fentanyl a national security threat.

Kaine and Ernst are angling to add their Disrupt Fentanyl Trafficking Act as an amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for 2024, reports The Hill:

"Our goal is — I suspect, when we mark that bill up, which is probably around the 17th or 18th in committee, Joni and I will offer it as an amendment," Kaine said. "We think that we have a real good chance of getting it added." …

The senators' idea is to make fentanyl trafficking a priority for the Pentagon by classifying it as a national security threat to the United States.

The legislation would also encourage the Defense Department to use dollars on training and information sharing to support counter-fentanyl efforts.

In addition, it would mandate the Pentagon work with other federal agencies and Mexican defense officials on a strategy to counter drug trafficking, a rule that means Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin would work more closely with Mexico's military.

A similar proposal is being put forth in the House by Reps. Stephanie Bice (R–Okla.) and Salud Carbajal (D–Calif.). The full text of the bills is not yet available, but Kaine, Ernst, Bice, and Carbajal have been touting their efforts via press release.

This comes in the wake of the House passing two other anti-fentanyl measures—the Preventing the Financing of Illegal Synthetic Drugs Act and the Halt All Lethal Trafficking (HALT) of Fentanyl Act—last week, and amid an array of increasingly insane statements about targeting Mexico for military action.

"Every family in America has been impacted in one way or another by this crisis," Kaine said in a statement. "If we want to prevent future tragedies, the United States must work with Mexico to counter fentanyl trafficking across our Southern border."

There's no doubt that fentanyl—often unbeknownst to users of other drugs with which it is mixed—is a problem in the U.S., leading a surge in overdose deaths in recent years. But fentanyl didn't become a fixture in America's illicit drug supply out of nowhere; its proliferation actually stems from drug prohibition policies.

Crackdowns on prescription opioid pills drove addicts to the black market, where many turned to heroin as an alternative. And whether buying black-market opioid pills or heroin, drug users suffered from the same lack of certainty about what exactly was in these substances, leaving many more people vulnerable to overdoses when drugs were cut with much more potent and cheaper synthetic substances like fentanyl.

Fentanyl also became attractive to drug smugglers because of the American war on drugs. The targeting of poppy fields from which natural opioid drugs, like heroin, are derived made synthetic opioids an attractive alternative for drug cartels. Fentanyl can be easier to smuggle into the country than pills or heroin.

Even if the government somehow succeeds in successfully stemming the flow of fentanyl to U.S. markets (a pretty unlikely scenario, given what we know about how the war on drugs has gone over the past 50 years), it's no guarantee that this will make a dent in opioid smuggling, use, overdoses, or deaths. And if the pills to heroin to fentanyl trajectory of this past decade's drug crisis is any indication, it will very likely lead to something worse emerging.

In fact, there's evidence this is already happening.

Facts like these should be enough to make anyone think twice about proposing more and harder drug war as a solution to problems caused by addiction and black markets.


FREE MINDS

The Supreme Court won't hear a case concerning Reddit and alleged child sex trafficking. Reason covered the case (Doe v. Reddit) back in November, when the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit held that Reddit could not be sued for sex trafficking if it didn't knowingly permit sex trafficking.

The appeals court held that Section 230 prevented six Jane Does from suing Reddit over sexually explicit images of them as minors that were posted by Reddit users. The case became a test for how the 2018 Allow States and Victims to Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act (FOSTA)—which carved out an exception to Section 230 for sex trafficking claims—might apply in cases like these.

The 9th Circuit recently invoked the Reddit case in a similar ruling regarding Twitter.

The Does appealed the Reddit ruling, asking the Supreme Court to intervene—and giving the Court another opportunity to rule on Section 230, after avoiding the issue in two recent terrorism cases involving Twitter and Google. But SCOTUS on Tuesday declined to hear the case.


FREE MARKETS

Debt deal would lead to more spending on SNAP benefits. Conservatives aren't the only ones planning to vote against a debt limit deal proposed by President Joe Biden and House Speaker Kevin McCarthy. In addition to earning a gaggle of Republican detractors, the deal will get a no vote from New York Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, her office said said yesterday.

Meanwhile, a Congressional Budget Office (CBO) analysis of the deal says its caps on discretionary spending mean "the agency's projections of budget deficits would be reduced by about $1.5 trillion over the 2023–2033 period relative to its May 2023 baseline projections" and "as a consequence, interest on the public debt would decline by $188 billion."

Republicans have touted the deal's work requirements for food stamp benefits as a win against the welfare state. But CBO notes that the overall changes to benefit rules would mean more spending on the federal Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) and more people eligible for benefits.

The changes to SNAP mean more people (not less) would qualify for benefits, and the program will cost more -- because lots of groups of people under age 50 will now actually be exempt from work requirements that current exist. pic.twitter.com/yiGhHpcZ62

— Eric Boehm (@EricBoehm87) May 31, 2023


FOLLOW-UP

Family sues over cop shooting child in Mississippi. The family of Aderrien Murry, an 11-year-old boy shot by an Indianola police officer after calling 911 about a domestic disturbance at his home, is now suing the city, the local police chief, and Greg Capers, the officer who shot him. The federal lawsuit filed in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Mississippi seeks $5 million in damages and for Capers to be fired.


QUICK HITS

• The 14th Amendment has long been interpreted to guarantee birthright citizenship, meaning that children born in the U.S. automatically get citizenship even if they are born to non-citizens. Former President Donald Trump is vowing to change that if reelected.

• Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who is also running for president on the Republican ticket, "presents himself as a champion of individual freedom against overweening government. But as governor of Florida, DeSantis has repeatedly contradicted that stance by blurring the line between state and private action, a distinction that is crucial to protecting civil liberties," Reason's Jacob Sullum writes.

• Alabama expanded its ban on transgender women playing on K-12 sports teams for girls to include college women's sports teams as well.

• Elon Musk's brain implant tech, Neuralink, has gotten Food and Drug Administration approval to start human trials.

• Abortion politics are holding up construction of the U.S. Space Command's headquarters.

• A Tennessee woman was given "a lifesaving emergency hysterectomy, ending her opportunity to give birth to more children, after she says she was denied medically necessary abortion care at a hospital in her home state for life-threatening complications earlier in her pregnancy," reports ABC News.

• Don't buy the social housing hype, writes Reason's Christian Britschgi.

• "Nevada's Joe Lombardo on Tuesday became one of the first Republican governors to enshrine protections for out-of-state abortion patients and in-state providers," notes the Associated Press.

• A Japanese court says that the country not allowing same-sex marriage is unconstitutional.

• Uganda's president just signed a law assigning the death penalty for "aggravated homosexuality" defined as "serial offenders" of the country's law against same-sex relations or transmission of a fatal disease through gay sex. The new law also makes promoting homosexuality punishable by 20 years in prison.

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Senators Want To Declare Fentanyl a National Security Threat

    Fentanyl wants to declare the US Senate a national security threat.

    1. Minadin   2 years ago

      "Every family in America has been impacted in one way or another by this crisis," Kaine said in a statement.

      Mine hasn't.

      1. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

        You didn't have to be exposed to months of rioting, lies and subsequent government policy because one black man died of an OD?

        1. Tionico   2 years ago

          and that guy is followed by about an hundred thousand overdose deaths from fentanyl every year since then. n

      2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        Neither has mine.

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          Just thinking about yourself

      3. swillfredo pareto   2 years ago

        Mine hasn’t.

        Sure it has. Those of us who pay taxes are paying to finance the war on drugs. Those of us who pay for insurance are paying more to finance the crime the war on drugs generates. Those of us who buy at a bricks-and-mortar store pay more to finance the shoplifting to pay for the drugs sold by the d dealers the war on drugs is fighting. The list goes on forever.

        He’s not wrong, he just doesn’t care that the evil is the government, not the drug,

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    3. perlmonger   2 years ago

      Look, the solution to this problem is to give Afghani farmers a fair shake and import pure, clean, Afghani heroin straight from the source. The CIA can be of tremendous help in setting this up.

      1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

        Or we could grow opium at home and Genetically Modify it to kill only pain and not people. I'm waiting for an opportunity to invest in the IPO for Death-B-Gon Opioid Pain Reliever.

        1. VULGAR MADMAN   2 years ago

          You’d need to redesign the human brain for that to work.

    4. Libertariantranslator   2 years ago

      LSD, mescaline and weed want to declare looter Kleptocracy politicians a threat to trade, the economy, life and limb.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Hank, the 1960s were over 50 years ago.

        1. perlmonger   2 years ago

          Not for Hank they weren't. His mind is still there.

  2. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    The latest ill-conceived responses come from Sens. Tim Kaine (D–Va.) and Joni Ernst (R–Iowa), who want to declare fentanyl a national security threat.

    IT'S KILLING POLICE ON SIGHT

    1. Eeyore   2 years ago

      It has gotten so potent it can kill a cop through action at a distance. Like gravity or quantum entanglement.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        It can kill if you just touch a picture of it.

  3. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

    The new law also makes promoting homosexuality punishable by 20 years in prison.

    We all know there is no homosexual stuff in prison.

    1. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

      Well there goes Kampala Disneyland.

  4. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   2 years ago

    I'm so glad that the FBI lead man christopher wrye isn't withholding evidence of corruption in the Biden family. Thanks to reason I know that it's such a slow news day I can see the latest about the Ugandan gays!

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

      Like fentanyl, Ugandan's ban on gays has an impact on evey American family in one way or another.

      1. HorseConch   2 years ago

        No shit. There were barely enough gay Ugandans to go around before they banned them. Good luck finding one now.

        1. Super Scary   2 years ago

          I usually get my gay Ugandans from China, but with the tariffs...It's just not feasible for me anymore.

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        2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

          There's more to it than that. The Religious Right in the U.S. endorses anti-LGBTQ laws in Uganda and elsewhere in Africa and also endorses The Lord's Resistance Army Christian terrorists in Uganda. Victories in Africa are valuable propaganda tools for their activities to bring Theocracy here

          1. tracerv   2 years ago

            Cite?

          2. Hank Ferrous   2 years ago

            I'll have to go w/ tracerv. I don't really need to see your citations, it seems like you may be completely full of shit, and proud to show it with this take. This is some kirkland-level stupid.

            1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

              Some of us always knew what encog was capable of.

  5. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Family sues over cop shooting child in Mississippi.

    Unfortunately no other fuckup with a badge has fucked up in exactly this manner before therefore how are fuckups with badges supposed to know they shouldn't fuck up like this?

  6. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    ...the deal will get a no vote from New York Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, her office said said yesterday.

    Are we sure her office said that and it wasn't a parody account?

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      AOC is just like a republican!

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago (edited)

        AOC is hot so she gets a pass.

        Likewise Lauren Boebert is attractive but she gives off a trashy Sarah Palin vibe – especially since she worked as an escort in the past and her soon to be ex-husband liked to expose himself in public.

        But anyway they both score high on the Buttplug Index of entertaining public figures.

        Insane bitches Rashida Tlaib and Cori Bush score Zero though. In fact anyone named Bush she be shunned for any public office.

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        2. Sevo   2 years ago

          Don't forget that turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

      2. Super Scary   2 years ago

        She must be one of those "MAGA Communists" I've been hearing so much about.

    2. Moderation4ever   2 years ago

      I guessing no one really cares about AOC's vote on the debt ceiling.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        Nahh, she is hot.

        See explanation above.

        1. Sevo   2 years ago

          Remember that turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
          turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
          that

        2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Doesn't seem like your type, after what you've been banned here for.

    3. perlmonger   2 years ago

      Presumably her objection is that it doesn't go far enough.

    4. Libertariantranslator   2 years ago

      The Puerto Rican impersonator from Queens is in the House of Rapresentatives, not the Sinate.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        That's why it says "Rep.", Hank.

  7. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    The 14th Amendment has long been interpreted to guarantee birthright citizenship, meaning that children born in the U.S. automatically get citizenship even if they are born to non-citizens. Former President Donald Trump is vowing to change that if reelected.

    Fatass Donnie did say that he wanted to shit-can the Constitution.

    1. Sevo   2 years ago

      Most everyone knows that turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
      turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

    2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      Not in those exact words, but yes he did.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        Cite?

      2. Libertariantranslator   2 years ago

        One suspects it's the 14A part about women having individual rights (but not the vote)--NOT the part about how looters squandering borrowed money "shall not be questioned."

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Which part of that is it, Hank?

          Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

          Section 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

          Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

          Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

          Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

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  8. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Conservatives aren't the only ones planning to vote against a debt limit deal...

    Everyone who has been told they are allowed to vote against it will.

  9. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    Uganda's president just signed a law assigning the death penalty for "aggravated homosexuality" defined as "serial offenders"

    Also known as the "Don't Do Gay" bill amongst leading conservatives.

    1. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

      Oh look. Another of your pathetic attempts to gaslight on behalf of Democrats has blown up in your face. 🙁

      Buttplug claim: Reparations for slavery is only an issue because Republicans won't stop talking about it. Democrats don't actually care.

      NYT: Buttplug is a liar.

      "A California task force recently recommended more than $500 billion in reparations to Black residents. San Francisco is considering compensation of $100 billion. And Representative Cori Bush of Missouri said $14 trillion was the true national cost."

      This is your party.

      1. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

        More!

        TOMORROW, in a one-night-only event, ABC will be airing two episodes of #1619Project docuseries. Ep1: Democracy, and Ep2: Justice. First we will show you how Black resistance democratized America, and then we will spend a full hour laying out why reparations are owed. Join us.

        Although I don't have direct access to her voter registration, I'm pretty sure NHJ isn't a Republican.

        1. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   2 years ago

          Quick question for every retard that worked on the 1619 project
          Would you rather be a black in America today, or a white in 1619?

          1. perlmonger   2 years ago

            Or a gay Ugandan in Uganda?

        2. Hank Ferrous   2 years ago

          Hard saying. she may well be the black face of white nationalism and the female face of the patriarchy. If the ignorant, stupid assertions from left-leaning world are taken at face value, those groups that are restrictive based on sex and race are actually very welcoming and diverse.

      2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        Hold on. How can I be for reparations and be a Herschel Walker hating racist too?

        It's like supporting the "right to life" for a Krispy Kreme donut and voting for Chris Christie.

        1. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

          You explicitly claimed reparations was NOT a Democratic issue because it was, in fact, only Republicans talking about it and keeping it alive. Like much of what you scribble here, it was a ridiculous lie meant to shield the Democratic Party from legitimate criticism.

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

            Cori Bush is NOT representative of the Democratic Party.

            They already told her to "shut her black ass up" on her Defund the Police rhetoric.

            (Or something similar to that)

            Anyway when I say Democrats are better on something it is not a wholesale endorsement.

            See my comment "Republicans are better on gun rights" - which is also not a wholesale endorsement for the GOP.

            That is not a difficult distinction, Sandra.

            1. Sevo   2 years ago

              turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
              If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
              turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

              1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                Sevo mops splooge up at the Tenderloin gay bath houses every night in San Fran amongst the "elites" that run the city. He silently rages against "the system" as he squeezes each mop into a collection bucket. He prizes each bucket as his contribution to ending the parade of progressive California voters that infuriate him.

                Sevo was once a lover of beat poet Lawrence Ferlinghetti but like Michael Savage before him began to rage against the men who taught him the ways of homosexual evil.

                Now he works daily to rid the city of future deviants.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                  Cite?

                  1. Sevo   2 years ago

                    Lying asshole can't even come up with an 'insult' that isn't embarrassing. Pathetic.

                    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      It's not even original. Turd's used the Tenderloin insult previously. I think he's got it stored somewhere he can just copy and paste Sqrlsy-style.

                2. Sevo   2 years ago

                  turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
                  turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

            2. Kungpowderfinger   2 years ago

              Cori Bush is NOT representative of the Democratic Party.

              Does California represent what the Democratic Party has planned for the rest of the country?

            3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

              Cori Bush is NOT representative of the Democratic Party.

              Interesting. Sandra didn't bring up Cori Bush or defund the police anywhere.

              Trying to deflect from your DNC boos again, I see.

            4. Super Scary   2 years ago

              "Anyway when I say Democrats are better on something it is not a wholesale endorsement."

              And yet, when done in the opposite manner, it is evidence that whoever is speaking is a MAGA-loving chud alt-right Trump humper, right?

      3. Libertariantranslator   2 years ago

        Ayatollah Sandy Bin Ladin has a point. Nanny nanny boo boo to the other half of the looter Kleptocracy. So there!

    2. damikesc   2 years ago

      More like the "Why the hell should I care what Uganda does?" bill.

      Shall we go into the list of laws that are bad in other countries?

      1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        We will add "DON'T TALK ABOUT UGANDA!!!" to the long list of topics we are not allowed to talk about.

        1. damikesc   2 years ago

          What site are you reading, given that nothing I said had even the slightest correlation with your comment?

          Not sure how not caring about Ugandan laws means anything more than not giving a shit about the laws of Uganda.

          1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

            Yes, you are literally correct.

      2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

        If one is a consistent Libertarian, then yes, yes we do.

        1. Hank Ferrous   2 years ago

          'I decide what is best for other people, and how sovereign nations should govern' is not a Libertarian pillar. It is not a consistent position, not an inconsistent position. It is more likely to be embraced by reactive and emotional people.Your argument is a No True Scotsman fallacy, which I can't say much surprises.

        2. damikesc   2 years ago

          Unless you're willing to colonize the planet --- then, no, it really is not our concern.

    3. Sevo   2 years ago

      turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
      turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

  10. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    The 14th Amendment has long been interpreted to guarantee birthright citizenship, meaning that children born in the U.S. automatically get citizenship even if they are born to non-citizens.

    Yes, let's reverse that and give bureaucrats more power.

    1. Nardz   2 years ago

      The authors of the amendment explicitly stated, multiple times on the senate floor, that the amendment did not grant citizenship to anybody simply born on US soil regardless of parents' status.
      It has been intentionally and dishonestly misinterpreted for decades by corrupt courts and bureaucrats.

      1. ducksalad   2 years ago

        Correction.

        What they said is that it did not cover the children of diplomats and enemy combatants.

        After it passed, liars attempted to claim it didn't apply to people of Chinese ethnicity. The courts quite properly struck down that false claim. Since then, the ideological descendants of those liars have continued to make bullshit arguments along the same lines, targeting whatever new group they resent for working better and cheaper than themselves.

      2. Zeb   2 years ago

        Then they should have written it differently. "All persons born or naturalized" seems pretty clear.

        1. perlmonger   2 years ago

          I believe it's the "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" part that people being out. Notionally that precludes illegals somehow, it's not my argument, I can't remember how it goes. I *do* think that we should end birthright citizenship, but I also think we should do it properly.

          1. Zeb   2 years ago

            I've heard that, but it doesn't make sense. "Subject to the jurisdiction thereof" definitely applies to illegal immigrants. Otherwise they wouldn't be illegal and subject to arrest and deportation. It's about diplomats who are not subject to US jurisdiction.

            1. Nardz   2 years ago

              Wrong.

              1. Zeb   2 years ago

                How so? In what way is an illlegal immigrant not subject to US jurisdiction?

          2. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

            What is the proper way to do that, perlmonger?

        2. Nardz   2 years ago

          “This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States.”
          -Senator Jacob Howard

          “What do we mean by ‘subject to the jurisdiction of the United States?’ Not owing allegiance to anybody else. That is what it means.”
          -Senator Lyman Trumbull

          1. Zeb   2 years ago

            Then they should have amended the text to say that. But they didn't. Complain about the guy who said it means something that it doesn't say, not those who read the plain English of the text to mean what it actually says.

          2. Zeb   2 years ago

            I guess senators have always been full of shit.

    2. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

      What's to worry? It's not like DHS would politize the process; they are guided by better angels than that.

  11. Overt   2 years ago

    "Senators Want To Declare Fentanyl a National Security Threat"

    Right...you see, the rush to decriminalization has been hard on Police. They tried transitioning to "Human Trafficking", a term that they loved shouting over the past 5 years or so. But that just didn't take- it turns out stamping out prostitution is a bit easier than drugs, and it also pisses off the elites who love that life. So instead, meet the new prohibition, same as the last.

    When the US largely solved young adult motor deaths by raising the drinking age, Mothers Against Drunk Driving didn't just fold up and go home. They took their massive funding warchest and applied it to more and more restrictive "Driving while Impaired" laws, until they were absurdly insisting that police have checkpoints to catch people who had drank, but were otherwise fine to drive home.

    Is it any wonder that as soon as Gay Marriage was legalized, suddenly all the Gay Rights groups shifted their messaging to Trans Rights? Of course not. And it is no surprise that the massive Police State is constantly banging the drum for a new drug war, as the previous one winds down. Is it a shock that the US finds itself arming and training Ukrainians in a proxy war, just as it ended its efforts to arm and train Afghani's?

    Institutions that survive solely based on government regulation will always find a reason to survive, even if it means getting more regulations in place. They will always have a bogeyman. They will always have a cause.

    1. Illocust   2 years ago

      There was one gay rights organization that shut down when the gay marriage opinion was made. They were pretty heavily criticized for it by their peers.

    2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago (edited)

      When the US largely solved young adult motor deaths by raising the drinking age, Mothers Against Drunk Driving didn’t just fold up and go home. They took their massive funding warchest and applied it to more and more restrictive “Driving while Impaired” laws, until they were absurdly insisting that police have checkpoints to catch people who had drank, but were otherwise fine to drive home.

      Is it any wonder that as soon as Gay Marriage was legalized, suddenly all the Gay Rights groups shifted their messaging to Trans Rights? Of course not.

      So dishonest to juxtapose those two statements next to each other.

      Setting up impaired driving checkpoints for drivers otherwise able to drive home is a restriction on liberty. Advocating for non-heterosexual individuals to be treated as equals in society is, in general, an expansion of liberty for those individuals.

      Does Overt really want us to think that organizations that persist in wanting to restrict our liberty, and organizations that persist in wanting to expand our liberty, should be regarded as the same simply because they both persist over long periods of time?

      1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

        He's talking about organizations needing to constantly invent new enemies to defeat even after they win a victory. Because the organization is used to the fame and wealth that can be obtained through advocacy, so getting what they want isn't enough to make them stop advocating.

        We're winning the war against marijuana by broad legalization but police still want an enemy to fight. So they need to invent a new bogeyman to justify their existence. They like arresting nonviolent drug users because it's a really easy part of their job, and asset forfeiture is potentially a massive reward. Narrowing their efforts to stop more violent crime is harder work.

      2. Overt   2 years ago

        "So dishonest to juxtapose those two statements next to each other."

        Oh, what lie did I tell? As near as I can tell, both are examples of organizations who fulfilled their founding mission, and then moved on to different missions, rather than declaring victory and going home.

        "Advocating for non-heterosexual individuals to be treated as equals in society is, in general, an expansion of liberty for those individuals."

        They are all arguing for the creation of laws. In some cases the laws are designed to improve liberty, and in other cases (such as requiring Women's Sports to accept non women) it is at best Liberty Neutral.

        But you alone have exposed the fault in your own argument. "Advocating for non-heterosexual individuals" is not what these same organizations are now doing. According to queer and trans formulations, we are not talking solely about sexual norms any more. A trans-woman (i.e. biological man), seeks sex with men would be considered "heterosexual" by their own definitions and yet these organizations have expanded the scope of their mission to advocate on the behalf of these people.

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

          You're smearing the LGBTQ rights organizations by associating them with MADD and other organizations which affirmatively want to take away your liberty. I note that you declined to mention the pot legalization movement - remember when the argument was about medical marijuana and "granny just needs some pot to treat her glaucoma"? Now it has moved on to "it should be legal to get stoned on the weekends". But you approve of that type of mission creep, but you don't approve of the LGBTQ organizational mission creep. That is why you smear them. That is your dishonesty.

          1. Zeb   2 years ago

            Bad analogy. There has been a movement to legalize pot in general for at least as long as there has been a movement for medical.
            The gay and trans groups often do want to restrict people's liberty to associate and do business as they choose.

          2. Overt   2 years ago

            "You’re smearing the LGBTQ rights organizations by associating them with MADD and other organizations"

            It says a lot that you consider comparison to MADD a smear.

            "I note that you declined to mention the pot legalization movement"

            Now you have to be trolling me. The very first sentence in my post was, "you see, the rush to decriminalization has been hard on Police." Did you miss that part?

            "Now it has moved on to “it should be legal to get stoned on the weekends”. " But you approve of that type of mission creep, but you don’t approve of the LGBTQ organizational mission creep.""

            That's nonsense. I don't follow the MJ Legalization crowd that much, but if you show an example of scope creep similar to what we got from HRC, I'd agree. From my time in Colorado, I am familiar with two organizations. NORML was founded in the 70s and their stated mission has FOREVER been the complete legalization of MJ. They have always been clear in saying, "Let's start with Medical MJ, and Decriminalization, but that is just a first step." The other organization I am familiar with is the Medical Marijuana Assistance Program of America. And they went all over Colorado advocating for Medical MJ, and helping provide it to others. And they closed up shop in 2012.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              Jeffy's being highly dishonest with his analogies. I remember NORML on campus in the late 1990s, and that was always their stance, and they even had literature stating the steps toward full legalization. Not once were they dishonest about their ultimate goal.

              MADD, on the other hand, seems to move on to smaller and smaller issues with a ridiculously small return on investment while their primary goal, and original stated goal was achieved decades ago. Many of the LGBTQ2+WTF groups seem to follow the MADD model and move on to another, even if patently ludicrous issue. They've achieved the main goal, but they just cannot bring themselves to disband and end the gravy train of funding.

              1. Overt   2 years ago

                And for what it is worth, I would not be surprised to find that even Medical MJ organizations have indeed had mission creep. It does not invalidate my thesis at all. It would merely strengthen my argument.

                Chemjeff is angry that I chose the examples of the Police, MADD, Military industrial complex, and Trans Rights community. That's it. He has not done a single thing to argue with my points, he has merely complained that I chose them in my list of evidence.

          3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

            You’re smearing the LGBTQ rights organizations by associating them with MADD and other organizations which affirmatively want to take away your liberty.

            Just because NAMBLA wants to legalize sex with children doesn't mean that throwing people in jail when they do so is decreasing their liberty.

          4. Libertariantranslator   2 years ago

            All that is true. But it is also true that the LP leveraged the repeal of gay-bashing laws. Now female impersonators--attracted by opportunities created by girl-bullying mystics--have multiplied into an unsightly nuisance. (Remember Andy Kaufman as a girl wrestler?) Maybe this is cultivated to generate anti-libertarian backlash aping the Thud Blight horror. The Army of God leaves only gay alternatives standing as reliable birth control, so trans-MMA infiltrators are the future, along with addictive narcotic overdoses.

      3. Overt   2 years ago

        And just for the record, it is either dishonest or ignorant to insist that Trans Rights groups are merely interested in spreading liberty. The Human Rights Campaign's signature push right now is The Equality Act. That act is almost completely concerned with forcing private individuals and private businesses to associate with and serve people based on their Trans status.

        "The Equality Act prohibits discrimination based on an individual’s sexual orientation or gender
        identity at work and in the context of housing, credit, education, and jury service. It also prohibits discrimination based on sexual orientation, gender identity, and sex in programs that receive
        federal funding and places of public accommodations, while also expanding the list of protected places of public accommodations to include retail stores, transportation services like airports,
        taxis and bus stations, and service providers like accountants. "

        Now you can argue that is a good thing, but it is not an "expansion of liberty". It is a restriction of liberty.

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

          And right on cue, just as I was typing the above, you posted that. You view LGBTQ rights advocacy as a threat to liberty, just like MADD.

          1. Zeb   2 years ago

            And he isn't wrong.

          2. Overt   2 years ago (edited)

            ” You view LGBTQ rights advocacy as a threat to liberty, just like MADD.”

            Let’s just say you are correct on that. So what?

            1) You have provided no evidence that I was incorrect- that these organizations are not engaged in scope creep.

            2) You were WRONG when you asserted that LGBTQ organizations are merely promoting "expansion of liberty”.

            All you have done is implied that I have bad motives for posting these facts. Do you have anything substantive to say on the subject, or are the ad hominems all you’ve got?

            1. perlmonger   2 years ago

              "In a shocking turn of events, it turned out that he did not -- in fact -- have anything substantive to say on the subject."

      4. Libertariantranslator   2 years ago

        This exposes Ayn Rand's error in suggesting we should whore after single-minded special-interest groups rather than use libertarian spoiler votes to roll back all coercive culture laws. Before the LP recently Anschlussed into a wholly-owned Republican subsidiary of the Nazi Billionaire AfD party--again associating women-enslaving Lebensborn laws with resisting communism--a libertarian donation WAS a good investment.

    3. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

      Overt, here is the part I have trouble with.

      Fentanyl is not alcohol. Fentanyl is not weed. It is far more dangerous and lethal than both. Do I think it should be decriminalized, philosophically? Yes, if you're a libertarian. The War on Drugs has failed (and that it true - it did fail spectacularly and expensively). So far, so good.

      Now, what would Fentanyl decriminalization actually look like? You ever see anyone zonked out on Fentanyl or Tranq, Overt? It is not pretty. You'd see more of it. So....what array of social services do we include to help the addict kick the habit? Or do we just stand by, dispassionately watch them kill themselves, lament their loss, and pretend not to grieve them? Do we have Fentanyl administered to addicts under the watchful non-LEO eyes of medical professionals? There are a lot of issues here with decriminalizing Fentanyl and I read very little about that part.

      This is the problem I have. There is libertarian philosophy, and then there is reality (and confronting the fact that we are very imperfect humans - like seeing the addict zonked out in front of you on the sidewalk, pissing their pants because they lost bladder control). These are human beings; we cannot cast them aside, nor can we put a stumbling block in their path.

      If you decriminalize, what goes with it? Anything (like medical help for addicts, etc)?

      1. Overt   2 years ago (edited)

        ” You’d see more of it.”

        I disagree. The evidence is pretty clear that the rise in black market opioids began when the Obama Administration began targeting doctors for over-prescribing opioids. I have family friends who would regularly tell me about the back pills that they were getting. They were clearly hooked on pain killers. And each day they woke up, popped a couple pills, went to their back breaking jobs, earned money and went home to take care of their families. Each week, they would ge their next prescription from the doctor.(we have lots of friends in the construction industry.) This was as recently as 2013! They weren't sitting in a slump out on a stoop in the street. They would go hunting with us, or meet up at the bar.

        Today those same family friends are either hooked on black market drugs (Fentanyl), or dealing with chronic pain when they can’t get their friends to sell them excess prescription pain killers. In less than a decade they went from productive lives less disruptive than alcohol abusers to severe distress. All because of Obama's fucking war on doctors.

        Not everyone wants to just zonk out all day. But the Black Market has pushed that because it is incentivized to push Fentanyl- more potent and smugglable- than weaker stuff. Many people, if given the option, would do as they did before- manage their addiction through their doctor who has a vested interest in them not OD’ing in an alley. And even if we accept the scare stories that Fentanyl is Luciferium that has you hooked permanently, stopping the war on Doctors would lead to fewer people being pushed to the black market and getting hooked. And also, Doctors would be free to prescribe Fentanyl in a manner that protects quality, cost, and safety of the patient.

        And I also take issue with the notion of some catastrophe when we eventually decriminalize. The fact is, Fentanyl is mostly decriminalized. As a schedule II drug, generally users have not been arrested or prosecuted for using the drug. Law enforcement has been largely focused on distribution. So if the Government would back the fuck off of Doctors, I think we would see far fewer people getting hooked on Fen, and those that are managing their addiction easier, without having to mortgage their house to pay some dirtbag dealer in the Tenderloin.

        1. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

          Wait, this is exactly what is happening, at least where I am. = You will see more of it

          Are you familiar with Kensington, in Philly? It is literally a horror show of the worst life imaginable. They talk about the 'open air market' in SFO; it is very true in Philly as well. Overt, it is terrifying. There is more addiction, and it is more open and obvious. And more hazardous to the rest of us in civilized society. Fentanyl is a lot more like heroin, to me, than alcohol or weed. That is the closest analogue I can think of.

          If you decriminalize, then what? No support services? Some support services? Anything? That is the problem I have. Nobody says anything about what happens next. Will we really just let tens of thousands die in the streets and not help them? Note: we are doing exactly that right now, watching tens of thousands die from Fentanyl OD annually, while POTUS Bidens' lax border policies are enabling even more cross border drug dealing. It is crazy and fucked up.

          Would you force addicts to get taxpayer funded treatment? Would you make taxpayer funded treatment available to addicts?

          I am very sympathetic to the plight of chronic pain sufferers under the care of a physician. To me, they need to work together on the best outcome for the patient, which might be prescribing narcotics at a level with a higher addiction risk.

          1. Overt   2 years ago (edited)

            “Wait, this is exactly what is happening, at least where I am. = You will see more of it”

            This is where I disagree. The regime we live in today is one where Fentanyl use is generally tolerated and the federal government prosecutes distribution. We are doing really nothing about Demand, and we are severely restricting supply. We restricted the Supply so much that the only consumers who can get it are the people who are willing to pay the ultimate cost: throw away their entire life to find disreputable and predatory dealers, and dedicate all their money to pay their exorbitant black market premiums. And so, shocker, that is all that we see.

            If you reduce the COST of the supply, you will likely see more users. But these will be users who are NOT willing to throw their life away as a cost of getting high. They will include people like my family friends who just want to manage pain. And many of the people who were willing to pay The Ultimate Cost for their addiction would no longer HAVE to pay that cost. They could go to a clinic or doctor for their drugs. They could get it cheaply, meaning that by working a basic job, they could afford the habit.

            Suppliers cannot build long term relationships with their consumers when they are being persecuted by the Federal government. And we are seeing the predictable outcome of more addictive, more dangerous drugs that Suppliers can smuggle easier, quickly hook a customer, and extract lots of money per transaction until the person drops dead. Their behavior must become predatory, because they forever need new customers to replace the ones they drive into uselessness.

            Again, you ask how we support these addicts, when I told you in the first reply: Let them consume from their doctors, who are generally interested in a healthy long term relationship with the customer. For many, this is all the support they need. Get them to suppliers who don’t charge a ridiculous, debilitating “Black market premium”. Get them to suppliers who face competitive pressures that encourage them to ADVERTISE transparent data about what they are supplying.

            I don’t know how else to present this to you: Please take a look at these graphs:

            https://nida.nih.gov/research-topics/trends-statistics/overdose-death-rates

            Notice that Overdose Deaths (this is not a rate corrected for population growth, it is just absolute totals) stayed relatively stable throughout the 2000s. Starting in 2010, the Obama administration began cracking down, and ultimately in 2013 their work was complete and we see a mass transition to black market Fentanyl. That hockeystick is people like Prince being unable to get opioids from their doctor, and instead going to unreliable black market dealers. This created a massive network that today is creating the Tenderloin and Kensington.

            Kensington is not a disaster zone because of Fentanyl. Fen was discovered in 1959. It has been around for decades. Kensington exists because of the American War on Opioid Suppliers. If you want fewer people destitute and strung out on Fentanyl, LEGALIZE DISTRIBUTION. You may very well see more people consuming the drug, but you will also see those people managing their addiction.

  12. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

    So the Biden Administration is holding up the construction of Space Command's headquarters due the their extremist pro-abortion position. In other words, this is the Democrats picking a Culture War fight.

    1. Moonrocks   2 years ago

      No, it's the Republicans' Extremist views on abortion that are holding up construction. See how that works?

    2. mad.casual   2 years ago

      Look, this isn't a political issue, it's purely pragmatic. How are we possibly supposed to be able to defend all of space if we can't even murder unborn babies here on Earth?

    3. Super Scary   2 years ago (edited)

      ” In other words, this is the Democrats picking a Culture War fight.”

      Nah. It’s only a “culture war” when people don’t immediately bow down to whatever the dems/progressives are asking for.

  13. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Alabama expanded its ban on transgender women playing on K-12 sports teams for girls...

    WOMEN REGARDLESS OF PENILE STATUS SHOULDN'T BE PLAYING IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SPORTS. That's just common sense.

    1. Libertariantranslator   2 years ago

      Andy Kaufman learned the difference.

  14. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Elon Musk's brain implant tech, Neuralink, has gotten Food and Drug Administration approval to start human trials.

    Musk is going to accomplish what Gates couldn't.

    1. Eeyore   2 years ago

      Implant the ghost of Epstein in Gate's brain?

    2. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

      Create an OS that can't be hacked?

  15. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

    "Uganda's president just signed a law assigning the death penalty for 'aggravated homosexuality'"

    Uganda, huh? Well I'm sure that's the exception to the rule in Africa...

    "Same-sex relations were already illegal in Uganda, as in more than 30 other African countries, but the new law goes further."

    Weird. Because American liberals told me all bad policies ultimately flow from WHITE SUPREMACY.

    #YoudThinkAfricaWouldBeParadise

    1. Illocust   2 years ago

      No see, everything bad that happens in Africa is because they were colonized. Any bad laws and actions can be credited to a white man's action committed before anyone currently alive was born.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        Those poor Africans are powerless when confronted by something that happened hundreds of years ago.

      2. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

        I'd totally watch a reality show in which a 20-year-old white American goes to Africa and explains to them "You don't really believe this stuff. Your people were just manipulated by evil whites generations ago. You can trust me though. I'm one of the good white people. And I'm here to tell you if you want to reclaim your proud African history, you must agree that men can get pregnant."

        1. perlmonger   2 years ago

          I would buy her plane ticket.

        2. mad.casual   2 years ago

          Is this a Marvel Phase 4-type production where the empowered white woman role starts to crack and side narratives of rampant HIV and the loss of Ugandan women's civil rights seep in or more of a Netflix "we're gonna cap it at Season 2"-type production?

        3. Super Scary   2 years ago

          And then they put a tire around him and set it on fire.

        4. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

          That was fucking hilarious. I literally LOL'ed again re-reading it. Truly inspired.

    2. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

      Certainly they must have also ended slavery there, as it was only happening because of the whites.

      So naturally, they must have ended it WAY before the whites did. I bet they led the way on it honestly

      1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

        I watched that movie about a brave woman king who led all the Africans to fight to defeat the evil whites who were enforcing slavery. I'm 100% certain it's accurate.

    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      "Uganda: the black face of white supremacy!"

      Also, LOL at the description: "It was already illegal to have buttsex in Uganda, now it's super ultra illegal!"

    4. Libertariantranslator   2 years ago

      African, German and 'Murrican girl-slavery and pronatalist laws are based on mystical superstition. The belief systems that prove Jurassic fossils were PUT in those rocks by Allah to test our Faith also justify enslaving women into forced labor AND murdering all possible alternatives. When unequal yet apposite reprisal force is unleashed, girl-bulliers may spare a thought to worry about Allah and Jesus casting the radioactive iodine out of their thyroid glands. Will a Ugandan behead the FDA? Stay tuned...

    5. Hank Ferrous   2 years ago

      Don't on any account, ever, look into who sold the African people who would become slaves in the American colonies.... The important thing is the US taxpayers, as a group in the last link of the slave trade chain, and mostly unconnected to slavery, must pay reparations. For (social, restorative, racial) (aka in-) justice. Facts bad, fuckwaddery above all.

  16. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Abortion politics are holding up construction of the U.S. Space Command's headquarters.

    THEY WANT TO TERMINATE THE 2001 SPACE BABY.

    1. Nardz   2 years ago

      Well yea, it's definitely a threat.
      Thing's like the size of a planet

  17. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    A Tennessee woman was given "a lifesaving emergency hysterectomy, ending her opportunity to give birth to more children, after she says she was denied medically necessary abortion care at a hospital in her home state for life-threatening complications earlier in her pregnancy..."

    That story perfectly fits a narrative therefore it has to be accurate.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      We are living the handmaidens tale.

      1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

        Women getting sent to jail for wearing pants!!!

    2. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

      ENB apparently has never heard the phrase "too cute by half"

    3. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      That story threatens smug anti-abortion views so it must be inaccurate.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Cite?

      2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

        I am not anti-abortion, but in this story the mother lived and a baby that was wanted survived. The only smug viewpoint is yours, you prick.

    4. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      I don’t know about that, but the article is quite lengthy and detailed.

    5. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

      Hollis was recommended a facility in Pittsburgh, but she said traveling for care wasn't an option because Hollis and her husband both needed to work and couldn't afford to take time off.

      So, the option for the "life saving" abortion was available but declined due to an 8 hour car trip.

      Oddly, the article barely addresses the fact that the baby in question survived the premature birth other than to mention how stressful it has been for the mother. And completely ignores that she was going to need a hysterectomy whether the pregnancy was terminated or not, so she would never give birth to another child if this one had been aborted.

      The story does not fit the narrative. Despite the completely unwarranted negative spin, this article makes a case that the Tennessee law saved a baby that was wanted from an abortion that ultimately proved to be unnecessary. The state of journalism in America is a joke.

      1. Hank Ferrous   2 years ago

        Here's one of sophistjeff's 'thought experiments.' Did ENB simply regurgitate the short news blurb because it matched her biases, or did she do a bit of work, find out that the story doesn't fit her beliefs, and choose to present to omit facts?

  18. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Alabama expanded its ban on transgender women men and boys playing on K-12 sports teams for girls to include college women's sports teams as well.

    FIFY ENB.

  19. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

    Can we declare Team Blue and Team Red to be a national security threat?

    1. Nardz   2 years ago

      Stop molesting children

    2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      Please.

  20. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    A Japanese court says that the country not allowing same-sex marriage is unconstitutional.

    Between that and their Celibacy Syndrome, the Japanese are about to dwindle to nothing.

    1. damikesc   2 years ago

      Amazing how new things suddenly appear in documents that, you know, have not changed in a while.

      1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        Not so amazingly, Japan's court system works like ours: they have to wait for a relevant case with standing to come before the court before ruling on the matter. Not so amazingly, Japan's consititution has an equal protection clause, like a whole lot of other national constitutions.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Gee, I wonder why those might be? Couldn't be the obvious from a certain period after WWII, now, could it?

        2. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

          It is better referred to as the "make shit up" clause.

          1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

            Maybe a fair criticism in the US.

            Are you so familiar with the history of Japanese jurisprudence that you can claim equal protection is used to "make shit up" in Japan?

            1. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

              The fact that it took 3/4 of a century to find it suggests it was not there to begin with.

              1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

                That makes no sense. Has a gay marriage case ever been before the court before? Again, are you an expert on the history of Japanese jurisprudence?

    2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago (edited)

      It’s OK. They are the front runners to replace themselves with robots, anyway.

  21. Moderation4ever   2 years ago

    As I noted before, fentanyl is the new "crack cocaine" and we will see the stupid cycle repeat itself yet again. Harsh rhetoric, stupid laws, people suffer, and ending with rethinking laws that have caused so much pain.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      The common thread is joe Biden.

    2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

      Yup. Complete with national panics and draconian police-state laws that will in the end cost us all not just in terms of money but also in terms of liberty.

    3. Overt   2 years ago

      And let's note that the Fentanyl panic is completely created by the government. The Obama administration began a program of systematic targeting and censure of Doctors who "overprescribed" Opioids. And since that time ~2010, Americans have continued to switch to black market Opioids, and ultimately Fentanyl.

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

        The drug war is a failure.

        *clock ticks for three seconds*

        What we really need to be doing is going after these prescription drug companies, they're the real drug dealers.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          Eh, I consider fentanyl to be a self-correcting problem. Unlike heroin and cocaine, you can overdose a lot easier on fentanyl. The real issue are cities that want to do "drug injection sites" to stop the overdoses so these people can shoot up again and continue being a burden on society, rather than let artificial selection work its intended purpose.

      2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

        Just like the methamphetamine panic was created by the government's overreaction to abuse of a diet pill. The history of prohibition is replete with unintended consequences far worse than the original problem.

        Something, something, doomed to repeat it.

    4. Libertariantranslator   2 years ago

      Republicans and Biden demanded much harsher penalties for crack for two reasons. 1. the smoking makes a lethal overdose nearly impossible, and 2. like marijuana smoking, crack does not transmit the HIV the Klan was counting on to kill libruls, hippies and those Black Gentlemen so many women prefer.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Considering that the Klan was mostly Democrats, you might want to revise your analysis there, Hank.

      2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

        It's just girl bulliers all the way down.

  22. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Degrowth.

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/05/30/degrowth-is-a-suicidal-ideology/

    Political elites throughout the developed world are embracing the ideology of ‘degrowth’. They now seem to believe that shrinking our economies will have benefits for the public and the planet alike.

    Take the European Union. It has just hosted a high-profile conference called ‘Beyond Growth’, which assumes that ‘growth in itself is a problem’. Some of those speaking have also received a portion of €10million in funding for research into a future EU ‘post-growth deal’.

    Another beneficiary of EU largesse is Jason Hickel, the author of Less Is More: How Degrowth Will Save the World. He wants an ‘economy that’s more just, more caring, and more fun’. Hickel’s economy will also be a lot poorer, too, given that it rests on the ‘downscaling of energy and resource use to bring the economy back into balance with the living world’.

    This authoritarian impulse is critical to the degrowth ideology. It also helps to explain why Hickel rejects the idea of clean-energy solutions to problems like climate change. ‘A growth-obsessed economy powered by clean energy will still tip us into ecological disaster’, he writes. Growth itself, with its promise of expanding human prosperity and freedom, is treated by these people as inherently problematic.

    Another anti-growth luminary invited by the European Commission to speak at the ‘Beyond Growth’ conference was the Indian activist, Vandana Shiva. Her main claim to fame is promoting the end of artificial fertilisers in Sri Lanka, which ultimately led to the collapse of Sri Lanka’s economy and the fall of its government last year. She also campaigns against genetically modified crops, despite the fact that they could save millions of lives and drastically reduce child illnesses.

    Degrowth ideas are proving just as popular among elites in the US, too. When not flying around in a private jet, John Kerry, the US special presidential envoy for climate, is currently busy waging war on agriculture. In this, Kerry is supported by the once serious Economist magazine. It wants legislators to treat ‘beef like coal’ on the grounds that cattle emit methane and need large pastures to graze in, which are often created by deforestation. Instead of eating steak, people need to start eating tofu, The Economist urges. According to environmentalist George Monbiot, everything from cars to ‘eating meat and milk and eggs’ is ‘an indulgence we cannot afford’.

    An energy-abundant world, which would create improved living standards for the entire global population of eight billion people, is entirely possible. Indeed, the Substack writers at Doomberg have repeatedly pointed out that we have the technological capacity to create abundant energy and food while also limiting carbon emissions.

    Our elites are desperate to make themselves look virtuous, even if it means impoverishing us in the process. We need to start fighting back.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Fermenting beans to create tofu releases co2.
      Fucking idiots.

    2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago (edited)

      I guess this type of article is the template for what constitutes “real libertarian journalism” now:

      – Pick an organization on ‘the other side’ that is doing something bad (WHO, UN, IMF, WEF, Open Society) – Write a one-sided article about one specific terrible thing that they are doing – Be sure to emphasize how absolutely terrible it is – Studiously avoid examining the underlying issue behind the terrible thing that the terrible organization is doing – Also studiously avoid mentioning any alternative to the terrible thing that the terrible organization is doing, not even a libertarian alternative

      The key purpose of such journalism is to inform the reader not about issues or ideas, but to inform the reader that those people over there are bad people doing bad things.

      That is the template for quality journalism right there, amirite folks?

      1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago (edited)

        You’re so ridiculously dishonest.

        Studiously avoid examining the underlying issue behind the terrible thing that the terrible organization is doing

        The thing they’re doing is trying to shrink the economy and they’re actually saying this. The alternative is built in: Don’t do that, it’s self-destructive. The article goes into problems that have easy solutions, such as expanding nuclear power instead of shuttering it.

        And the libertarian alternative is, as always-don’t enforce mandates from centralized places of power. Don’t try to centrally control the economy. Let the free market work this out, let people have the ultimate freedom in making their own financial choices.

        It's so frankly shocking to see you read something about people advocating for a tighter central control over an economy and to turn and say, "Yeah, but what's the libertarian alternative? Why aren't you bringing anything to the table?"

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

          The thing they’re doing is trying to shrink the economy and they’re actually saying this.

          Even the Wikipedia page has a better explanation.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degrowth

          Some of their concerns are valid and some are not. But one of their concerns is based on pure math and empirical observation:

          - All modern economies are based on growth as the driver of economic vitality.
          - Current population trends predict that humans will reach a peak population somewhere towards the end of the 21st century.

          So once net population growth slows and eventually halts, where is all that growth supposed to come from that is the driver for a nation's economy?

          So in my opinion, here is a case, where some individuals have recognized a valid problem, and predictably, they have proposed left-wing/collectivist/statist solutions to try to fix the problem. And the predictable reaction, from the libertarian and right-of-center crowd, has not been to acknowledge the problem and propose a solution of their own, but instead to shreek "THEY'RE COMING TO TAKE AWAY OUR LIBERTY" in pure reactionary fashion and do absolutely nothing to even acknowledge the problem.

          We see this over and over again with all sorts of social problems.

          And articles like this don't help, when they don't discuss the underlying problems and only emphasize the bad things that the bad people want to do. But this is what is considered "quality libertarian journalism" around here.

          1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

            So once net population growth slows and eventually halts, where is all that growth supposed to come from that is the driver for a nation’s economy?

            Population growth and GDP growth are not the same thing. They are correlated, but if there's causal factor, it's not growing population driving GDP, it's a better economy creating a greater environment for people to rear children.

            Beyond that, even if you want to give the best faith interpretation to what this idea is, it's still all an issue about Central Planning. So let me ask you, Jeff: What is the libertarian response to the whole topic? What type of Central Planning should the economy have?

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

              Central planning is the proposed statist solution to the problem, of course I reject that. But in rejecting the statist solution, I don't also reject the legitimacy of the problem itself.

              The problem, as I see it, is: how can we have a macroeconomic economic system that has sustainable growth as the driver of economic vitality?

              And do you also acknowledge that the above cited article does absolutely nothing to encourage this type of intellectual discussion, but instead only focuses on "the bad people doing bad things"?

              1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago (edited)

                I don’t also reject the legitimacy of the problem itself.

                It’s not actually a problem. Economies that are only considered “good” if they’re perpetually growing is the problem. That left-liberals are engaging this in their usual ham-fisted manner shows that they believe the same paradigm, they just want the reverse because "sustainability" is their current god to worship.

          2. TrickyVic (old school)   2 years ago

            ""– Current population trends predict that humans will reach a peak population somewhere towards the end of the 21st century.""

            The "peak" craze? Like peak oil?

          3. Libertariantranslator   2 years ago

            A proposed solution either involves threatening to kill more (Kleptocracy) or fewer (Lib) people. Also, Malthus contrasted linear functions with exponential functions and none deny the exponential will eventually cross and surpass the linear. Without the Pill and 1972 LP leveraging, the repeal of Comstock laws, thereby changing the sign of the second derivative of population growth, you'd be taxed (Kleptocracy) to support another 2 billion starvelings in the People's States right now. A spreadsheet requires 3 cells and 1 operation in line 2 to show this.

        2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

          So now that you have read the fuller explanation of what "degrowth" really means, I will accept your apology for calling me "ridiculously dishonest".

        3. mad.casual   2 years ago

          “Yeah, but what’s the libertarian alternative? Why aren’t you bringing anything to the table?”

          The question is backwards. The question isn't why isn't libertarianism bringing more solutions to the table, the question is, if this issue is so complicated and vast beyond the scope of any one human or nation, why do others bring so few solutions?Libertarianism doesn't bring nothing to the table, it brings all the solutions, each in their own proportional measure of advocates' and the general public's perceived chance of success. The opposition posits problems so protracted and complex it will require solutions of which we have not currently conceived on a scale we cannot comprehend but, somehow, excludes some of those solutions up front.

        4. Hank Ferrous   2 years ago

          Oh, there's not a fucking thing shocking about that line of argument from our dear little friend.

      2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        You are never right.

      3. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

        – Pick an organization on ‘the other side’ that is doing something bad (WHO, UN, IMF, WEF, Open Society) – Write a one-sided article about one specific terrible thing that they are doing – Be sure to emphasize how absolutely terrible it is – Studiously avoid examining the underlying issue behind the terrible thing that the terrible organization is doing – Also studiously avoid mentioning any alternative to the terrible thing that the terrible organization is doing, not even a libertarian alternative

        The key purpose of such journalism is to inform the reader not about issues or ideas, but to inform the reader that those people over there are bad people doing bad things.

        Excellent description of Reason's DeSantis coverage.

      4. Overt   2 years ago

        "I guess this type of article is the template for what constitutes “real libertarian journalism” now:"

        I note that you didn't have any actual substantive disagreement with anything they say. So are you arguing that the analysis is untrue? Are you arguing it is just not important?

        I mean, it is well known that these views are being turned into Policy *right now* as we speak. A war on beef is currently making landfall in Europe, and people are pushing it here in the US as well. Are you saying that it is wrong for people to highlight and push back against this?

        1. perlmonger   2 years ago

          Of course he doesn't want pushback against his masters' plans.

        2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

          Well, Overt, instead of permitting you to change the subject in your very obvious attempt to bait me into providing gotcha quotes for your dossier, perhaps you might address the point that I actually made above, since you were the one who did choose to respond to me.

          Do you think the article above is informative? Do you think it is an exemplary example of journalism?

          After reading that article, do you think you have a clear understanding of what "degrowth" really means? Or did you just walk away from the article with an impression that "hmm, some bad people are doing some bad things, that seems bad"?

          Do you think that type of article is the type of journalism is a type of libertarian-oriented journalism that Reason should aspire to?

          1. Overt   2 years ago

            Chemjeff is absolutely unhinged today.

            ITL: Posts an article about Zero Growth types.
            Chemjeff: CHANGES SUBJECT to an attack on the messenger
            Overt: Says, but what about the actual subject?
            Chemjeff: Don't change the subject on me!

      5. Libertariantranslator   2 years ago

        Wrong. ENB is not advocating an increase in the initiation of force. I know this is disappointing to all the Army of God girl-bulliers and Harry Anslinger groupies who come to Reason the way Econazis flock to art museums with cans of spray paint. But hark! I hear the National Socialist Review is hiring blogless sockpuppets.

    3. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

      I am automatically suspicious of anyone who uses the term "elites" to describe their opponents.

      It's like saying "I am an ignorant hayseed and I don't trust pointy-headed intellectuals".

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        Almost as bad as calling people “peanuts”.

      2. Sevo   2 years ago

        turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
        turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

      3. Libertariantranslator   2 years ago

        Judge Bork expanded the "elites" term, and his WAAAH book wallows in self-pitying over not being elevated to Justice by 4 Dem votes. The online Google Books version carefully elides the pages whining that it is good, ethical, morally correct to expand the reach of coercive pussy grabbing to inside women's bodies. Likewise censored are the Canada pages, so it is hard to ascertain whether he advocated sending U.S. Marshals into godless Canada to force those women to reproduce or die to please Jesus. Bork's book is a sacrament to the power of mystical self deception and a paean to the initiation of the "right" kind of deadly force.

  23. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Uganda's president just signed a law assigning the death penalty for "aggravated homosexuality..."

    Almost as bad as Florida.

    1. perlmonger   2 years ago

      I wonder if the NAACP will issue a travel advisory.

    2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

      The don't say aggravated homosexuality law.

  24. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    Billionaire Funding ‘Abolish the Police’ Activists Invests in Private Security Start-Up
    Pierre Omidyar stands to gain financially from the rapid growth in private security.
    https://www.leefang.com/p/billionaire-funding-abolish-the-police

  25. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    U.S. Spent $13 Billion Sponsoring Unaccompanied Minor Children At The Border Since 2012
    Breaking news: Last year, the feds spent $2.7 billion – roughly $18,000 per unaccompanied child at the border. For context, the average cost of education in Texas K-12 schools was $9,800 per student.

    https://openthebooks.substack.com/p/us-spent-13-billion-sponsoring-unaccompanied

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago (edited)

      Maybe kids wouldn’t cost so much if we stopped all this abortion stuff.

      1. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   2 years ago

        Or abort all illegals at the border

  26. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    From He Who Shall Not Be Named:

    Last week, the European Union announced it would punish Twitter for withdrawing from its supposedly “voluntary” censorship laws. "Twitter leaves EU voluntary code of practice against disinformation,” said the EU’s top censor, Thierry Breton, “You can run, but you can't hide. Beyond voluntary commitments, fighting disinformation will be a legal obligation under [the Digital Services Act] DSA as of August 25. Our teams will be ready for enforcement."

    1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

      … But the real-world behavior of many journalists today at top news media companies is the exact opposite. They plot secretly with the Aspen Institute, each other, and social media executives about how to kill stories damaging to the president. And they help former CIA Directors and “Fellows” spread ridiculous conspiracy theories, including that Russians stole the 2016 election, controlled Donald Trump through a video of prostitutes urinating on him, and had somehow stolen Hunter Biden’s laptop.

      1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

        https://twitter.com/mikebenzcyber/status/1663518995926990850

        THREAD: Harvard’s top censorship magazine, The Misinformation Review, bragged that “mis/disinfo studies” is “Too Big To Fail,” owing in part to big money flowing from government.

        1. Nardz   2 years ago

          in part???

          Lol

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago (edited)

        And they help former CIA Directors and “Fellows” spread ridiculous conspiracy theories, including that Russians stole the 2016 election, controlled Donald Trump through a video of prostitutes urinating on him, and had somehow stolen Hunter Biden’s laptop.

        Oh, you haven’t heard the latest? At least one neocon, Patterico, is now claiming that the Steele dossier was actually some Russian 4-D chess move to trick Hillary and her cronies into passing along bad information and undermining “faith” in our intelligence agencies. This comes after he and those like him finally had to come to grips with the fact that the Steele dossier was complete bullshit–something anyone with a brain saw from the beginning, including our own partisan media agencies who wouldn’t touch it until Buzzfeed decided to run with it.

        Thats right–the same Russia that can’t even detect a clumsily executed drone attack on their capital completely fooled our supposed “intelligence agencies” with this one simple trick, as opposed to Hillary’s team concocting a bullshit report and coordinating with her creatures in surveillance state to legitimize it. "Useful idiots" doesn't even begin to describe these people.

      3. Libertariantranslator   2 years ago

        "911, White Coats Squad, what's your emergency?"
        --I found one for you; thinks he's the former Next Prez, only as a Trumpista.
        --Keep him talking, We'll have a van out pronto.
        --So, Al, tell me more about these calumniating Aspenista CIA conspirators pissing on America's Real President and their Soviet case officers; I'm listening...

    2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Volunteering is mandatory!

      1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

        Voluntold

    3. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      "said the EU’s top censor, Thierry Breton, “You can run, but you can’t hide."

      You see this attitude amongst all the fascists.
      Misek often posts here about how he wants to criminalize "lying", although he seems to think he'll be the arbiter of what is true and what is a lie, and not AOC.
      And AOC too wants to criminalize "disinformation" somehow forgetting all the PR stunts she pulled that turned out to be fake. Like crying at an empty parking lot or pretending to be handcuffed.

      So what Thierry Breton, Misek and AOC actually want isn't the criminalization of disinformation, but the criminalization of opposing political and social beliefs.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        Misek often posts here about how he wants to criminalize “lying”, although he seems to think he’ll be the arbiter of what is true and what is a lie, and not AOC

        All conservatives do this under the guise of "morality". You do it.

        It is where this "natural rights" bullshit falls apart.

        I say "your body your right" is a right which includes the right to end it or limit procreation.

        You wingnuts disagree about that fundamental right.

        Well, who the fuck made you "Decider of Rights"? Or Lister of Natural Rights?

        Libertarian = My Body My Right

        Conservative = YOU AIN'T GOT NO SUCH RIGHT!!!

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Didn't you get your original "Sarah Palin's Buttplug" account banned by posting hardcore CP to this site? Hence why you have the "2" after this one. Please, go into detail how that happened.

          1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

            There was a thin story about “lost my password “ for a short while. We all laughed.

          2. Sevo   2 years ago

            turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
            turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

        2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          "All conservatives do this under the guise of “morality”. You do it."

          You're such a cheap bullshit artist. Give me an example of me doing it. You don't even have to cough up a link. Just an example.

          "I say “your body your right” is a right which includes the right to end it or limit procreation."

          Sure, and then you pretend that a person in their fetal stage somehow doesn't count so it's okay to commit atrocities on them. Then you pretend that committing those atrocities is about "procreation", even though the actual procreation happened months earlier.

          Your sophistry is kindergarten level, Shrike.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            Your sophistry is kindergarten level, Shrike.

            It's almost as if he never wanted to leave kindergarten, especially given how he got banned.

        3. Libertariantranslator   2 years ago

          Mencken pointed out it's hard to believe someone when you know you'd be lying in that situation. Looters understand THIS ONE THING he said with absolute clarity. This is why all National Socialists are convinced of the Gospel that the commie Dems cannot tell a truth, and vice-versa. The shocking part is that both are right--nobody can trust lying looters!

    4. Moonrocks   2 years ago (edited)

      You can run, but you can’t hide

      Geez, I’m old enough to remember when this sort of rhetoric was reserved for terrorists that had killed thousands of people.

      1. perlmonger   2 years ago

        Pull assets from the EU, tell them to sue for damages in US courts.

  27. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    ENB: The 14th Amendment has long been interpreted to guarantee birthright citizenship, meaning that children born in the U.S. automatically get citizenship even if they are born to non-citizens. Former President Donald Trump is vowing to change that if reelected.

    Not exactly correct, Lizzie. Let's look a bit deeper into the story.

    https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/article_4c8287be-ff0b-11ed-b966-b33cd6259ebf.html

    Trump released a video Tuesday saying that if he is reelected he will sign an executive order ending birthright citizenship for the children of illegal immigrants.

    Note that is is for illegal aliens, not legal immigrants.

    Trump argued changing the citizenship policy will remove a key incentive for illegal immigration.

    “This policy is a reward for breaking the laws of the United States and is obviously a magnet helping draw the flood of illegals cross our borders,” he added.

    Trump called out “birth tourism” where pregnant illegal immigrants purposefully enter the U.S. just before giving birth.

    That said, I don't see how this is possible without either a) Congress passing an immigration law that contradicts part of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, or b) a court case that overturns part of United States v. Wong Kim Ark.

    1. Illocust   2 years ago

      I think an amendment might be required.

      1. perlmonger   2 years ago

        Why? Executive orders can do anything else.

        Oh, wait. *Republican* EO. I forgot those are lesser than Democrat EOs... My bad.

        (Not that I think it should be this way, just, fuck. Does the constitution even mean anything anymore?)

    2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      "Note that is is for illegal aliens, not legal immigrants."

      Conflating the two is Reason's favorite trick.

    3. Nardz   2 years ago

      It will have to be SCOTUS.
      Wong Kim has been misapplied in one of many betrayals of the American people

    4. Nobartium   2 years ago

      You'd think that libertarians would be against forced membership.

      But globalism is a hell of a drug.

      1. Zeb   2 years ago

        Forced membership in what?

    5. Super Scary   2 years ago

      "Note that is is for illegal aliens, not legal immigrants."

      ENB: "I don't understand, why did you say immigrants twice?"

  28. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

    "The new law also makes promoting homosexuality punishable by 20 years in prison."

    And here they want to give you 20 years for opposing the sexual mutilation of children, or dishonoring a rainbow crosswalk.

    Where's the land of happy medium.

  29. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    FBI contempt.

    https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/article_00aa4400-ff31-11ed-a658-afae3b48953f.html

    The chairman of the U.S. House Oversight Committee said Tuesday that he is beginning proceedings to hold FBI Director Christopher Wray in contempt of Congress for not producing a memo related to the agency's investigation into President Joe Biden.

    “Today, the FBI informed the Committee that it will not provide the unclassified documents subpoenaed by the Committee," Comer said. "The FBI’s decision to stiff-arm Congress and hide this information from the American people is obstructionist and unacceptable."

    "While I have a call scheduled with FBI Director Wray tomorrow to discuss his response further, the Committee has been clear in its intent to protect Congressional oversight authorities and will now be taking steps to hold the FBI Director in contempt of Congress for refusing to comply with a lawful subpoena," he added. "Americans deserve the truth, and the Oversight Committee will continue to demand transparency from this nation’s chief law enforcement agency."

    1. Moonrocks   2 years ago (edited)

      proceedings to hold FBI Director Christopher Wray in contempt of Congress

      Is this like Eric Holder contempt of Congress where nothing happens or like Steve Bannon contempt of Congress where he goes to prison?

      1. perlmonger   2 years ago

        Let's hope for the second, but best to expect the first.

      2. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

        Well, I suppose the Chair of the relevant House Committee could subpoena Director Wray, then instruct the Sergeant at Arms to take Wray into custody, conduct him directly to the prison cell in the Capitol building and hold him there for contempt. I don't think that has ever been done before, but I believe Congress does have the authority to imprison if they choose. It is extreme, but legal (I think). I also don't think that has been tested - the exact contours of Congressional power when it comes to contempt and imprisonment. That would be....breathtakingly ballsy.

  30. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

    "Former President Donald Trump is vowing to change that if reelected."

    It's not just his age, weight, the series of embarrassments since Nov. 2020, or even the fact he already lost to Dementia Joe once before. Trump is also a terrible candidate because every campaign promise he makes should be answered with "You were President for 4 years, why didn't you get this done then?"

    #BuildTheWall
    #DrainTheSwamp

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago (edited)

      “You were President for 4 years, why didn’t you get this done then?”

      I think that’s pretty obvious. Near constant impeachment attempts, a militantly hostile press, treacherous GOPe leadership like McCain, Romney, Graham, Ryan and McConnell pushing appointments they knew would hamstring him like Mattis and Bolton, and an FBI led coup attempt.

      1. Nardz   2 years ago

        Trump did everything with an eye on reelection.
        That was, in my estimate, where many of his mistakes stemmed from.

        1. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

          Wait...what makes you say that, Nardz?

      2. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

        Then if Biden's approval completely collapses in 2024 and Trump manages to squeak by him in the Electoral College, his second term would be a lot like the first.

        Which is why if Republicans care about policy they'll nominate DeSantis.

        1. Moonrocks   2 years ago

          What makes you think DeSantis will have an easier time getting things done?

          1. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

            DeSantis is younger, smarter, more detail-oriented, and more committed to advancing conservative goals.

            Trump is a celebrity from a TV show, with a history of donating to Democrats, who ran for President for the lulz and gave his Democrat son-in-law a prominent White House role.

            1. mad.casual   2 years ago

              DeSantis is younger, smarter, more detail-oriented, and more committed to advancing conservative goals.

              LOL. DeSantis is less focused on his political future and more intrinsically motivated by conservative interests, as opposed to partisan politics, than Trump!

              Were you not around for the centrist Biden, centrist Obama, centrist Bush, and centrist Clinton election campaigns? JFC.

              1. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

                Yeah. The guy (DeSantis) who has never donated to Kamala Harris is likely a more committed ideological conservative than the guy (Trump) who has.

                *yawn*

                So is this the cutesy faux-debate tactic you're going to use for the next year and a half - constantly nitpick what I say, without going on record agreeing or disagreeing with my main point?

                Almost everything I write on the subject is in support of the idea that nominating Trump is the worst thing Republicans can do if they want to make Biden a one-termer. Do you disagree? Do you think Trump 2024 actually gives the GOP its best chance? If so, why do you think that? Do you expect THE DEEP STATE that allegedly cheated Trump last time won't do the same thing again?

          2. ducksalad   2 years ago (edited)

            DeSantis won’t have as easy a time as he did with the Florida legislature. However, he’d do “better” than Trump.

            A lot of Trump’s attacks on immigration, for example, failed not because of constitutional concerns, but because he ignored statutory requirements. The fundamental issue is that he thinks following procedures and working with congressmen to pass laws is “weak”. He expects stuff to happen just because he said so, and when it doesn’t, he plays to the crowd rather than doing something productive. It’s not clear that he even understands, or wants to understand, stuff like the process for passing a bill or the APA.

            DeSantis has been a legislator and understands those things.

            1. Nardz   2 years ago

              "Trust the experts"

              1. ducksalad   2 years ago

                If you want some new laws - for example, your crackdown on immigration - then yes, it is important to have some knowledge of how laws are passed.

                That's especially true if you want change that lasts. Even if an executive order sticks, it's gone whenever the other side wins an election.

                1. Nardz   2 years ago

                  "Crackdown" on illegal immigration (aka invasion) doesn't require any new laws, it simply requires an honest and ethical judicial system.
                  Some of those experts you're so fond of.

                2. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

                  APA challenges were raised to an art form while POTUS Trump was in office; one of many examples of TrumpLaw.

        2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          Everything they did to Trump they will do to DeSantis if he doesn't play along.

          And as far as electability is concerned, no Republican (even DeSantis) will ever win another election until Mail-in/Drop-box fraud is addressed.

          1. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

            Bullshit.

            I don't know if DeSantis will get the nomination (I'm leaning toward "no"), don't know if he'd beat Biden, and don't know if he'd win in 2028 assuming he wins in 2024.

            But I *guarantee* an ex-President DeSantis wouldn't constantly whine about how EVERYONE he hired actually sucked and that's why he couldn't deliver.

            1. mad.casual   2 years ago

              I don’t know if DeSantis will get the nomination (I’m leaning toward “no”), don’t know if he’d beat Biden, and don’t know if he’d win in 2028 assuming he wins in 2024.

              So, popular enough among Democrats to be more competitive against Biden but not popular enough among Republicans to win the nod? Sounds, by your own assertions, kinda... planted or... establishment.

              1. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

                "So, popular enough among Democrats to be more competitive against Biden"

                Is this a joke? Are you really unaware of Independent voters and their importance in a Presidential election?

            2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

              Not quite sure what exactly your "bullshit" statement is regarding, as you didn't really address what I said.

              "But I *guarantee* an ex-President DeSantis wouldn’t constantly whine about how EVERYONE he hired actually sucked and that’s why he couldn’t deliver."

              Even if it turns out to be true?

            3. tracerv   2 years ago

              You should stick to paradoy. Your political analysis sucks.

              Your paradoy isn't that great either.

            4. Libertariantranslator   2 years ago

              Pity "the" law prevents us from putting up a friendly cash wager on who predicted correctly.

          2. Zeb   2 years ago

            I think Trump made it really easy for them.

      3. perlmonger   2 years ago

        Ok, I agree... but how will any of that be different in a round two?

        I'm not even opposed to him holding the office again, I just wonder if it'd achieve anything other than another 4 year holding action.

        1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          Probably not.

          America's problems are a lot bigger than can be solved by electing someone. Of course the wrong someone, like Biden, can make it infinitely worse.

      4. tracerv   2 years ago

        The dumb broad was to busy doing a paraody/joke account to notice.

    2. Nardz   2 years ago

      What an AWFL narrative

      1. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

        I'm sorry if it embarrasses you that Trump, despite incumbent advantage, lost to Joe Biden, a clearly past-his-prime senior citizen.

        Then threw a temper tantrum that had no chance of keeping him in office, but which got him banned from social media and decreased his 2024 chances.

        Then endorsed toxic unelectable 2022 candidates and encouraged Republicans to campaign on the idea that 2020 was stolen. Resulting in an absolutely pathetic performance in which they BARELY took the House.

        So the question becomes: Is the Republican Party still full of dead-ender idiots like you who don't understand Trump has been a gift to Democrats for 3 consecutive elections? Will Republicans nominate Trump again in 2024 even though that's obviously what Democrats want?

        1. Nardz   2 years ago

          "Trust the science, wear the mask, get the jab" is such a stupid marketing model for you DeSantis bots, yet you've chosen it.

          1. Nardz   2 years ago

            "Trust the poll workers, choose qUaLiTy cAnDiDaTeS, vote harder!"

            1. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

              "choose qUaLiTy cAnDiDaTeS"

              Yeah. Candidates matter. It might be the case they matter more for Republicans than Democrats, since the Dem base is so obedient it will vote for a stroke victim as long as he's sporting the (D).

              Candidates matter so much that Democrats boosted what they realized were the weakest Republicans in 2022. And Republican voters are so outrageously stupid, in many cases they did what their opponents wanted them to do.

              I notice you don't even bother disputing the idea that people who want Biden to win in 2024 are hoping Trump is his opponent.

              1. Nardz   2 years ago

                Yep, that 12d reverse psychology chess the dems are totes famous for!
                You apparently believe that a president DeSantis would be both a genuine threat to federal business as usual AND will be allowed to win.
                If the former is true, the latter won't be. If the latter is true, the former can't be. They're mutually exclusive propositions.
                I'm not going to bother listing all the evidence that we live in a totalitarian system, for it is legion.
                What I am going to point out is the apparent contradiction in DeSantis supporters believing the 24 election will be legitimate and fair, then spending so much time shifting on Trump supporters.
                You say they're stupid, that they're a cult, that they lack the enlightened wisdom of their pajama class betters. Hmm... sounds familiar.
                Yall's resentment isn't even disguised at this point. It's just venomous attack after venomous attack on the people who support Trump.
                Poisoning the well to such a degree that millions of voters you'd need (in a legitimate election) won't be inclined to vote for your guy is a curious strategy for people who believe they have a chance to win.

                1. perlmonger   2 years ago

                  Personally, unless the Republicans literally resurrect actual Adolf Motherfucking Hitler and run him, I'm voting for whoever the R candidate is. I give up. Fuck the Ds.

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          I’m sorry if it embarrasses you that Trump, despite incumbent advantage, lost to Joe Biden, a clearly past-his-prime senior citizen.

          I'll grant some extenuating circumstances here, given the nation's elites and government institutions began running a self-admitted color revolution against him after the Floyd riots kicked off. The DNC was flat-fucking broke before that happened, and all of a sudden had millions to work with, coupled with relentless media narratives, the help of the Chamber of Commerce, and the passage of election laws in key states that favored unverified vote counting--note the bitch-fit these people threw when Georgia reversed these measures, to the point that MLB moved the All-Star game to the open-air drug injection site known as Lower Downtown Denver.

          Otherwise, yes, the reality is that Trump is too fucking old, he's already lost, and even if he did manage to get back in office, he's shown that he doesn't have the ability to tard-wrangle the Swamp anyway, which is ultimately what's needed. The irony is that Biden is so disliked that even Trump is polling well against him.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            The irony is that Biden is so disliked that even Trump is polling well against him.

            The Free Press article regarding RFK, Jr., that I linked below even mentions this as one of the reasons Biden is under attack from within his own party, and why he now has two challengers for the 2024 nomination. The question I have, is how much fortification will be used to ensure that 1) Biden wins the DNC nomination, and 2) Biden wins a second term? That's the part that concerns me. If that amount of fortification is used, will people just accept it, or what?

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

              The nominee is going to have to be someone The Cabal sees themselves working with in order to tamp down whatever reindeer games they have on tap. Trump ain't it.

          2. Nardz   2 years ago

            What's need is a suicide bomber, because working within the system sure as hell isn't an option. There are no rules and laws are nothing more than a weapon to be arbitrarily applied to the people.

            1. ducksalad   2 years ago (edited)

              Well, it's refreshing to see it stated so plainly.

              Working alone on this "direct action" thing, or do you have a team?

              1. perlmonger   2 years ago

                I believe that was "suicide bomber" in the political sense. Though I don't know how you'd get another one of those past both the establishment and Trump himself. Since that's his role to play in politics.

                Or hell, maybe I'm wrong and Nardz meant it literally, but I kinda doubt it.

                1. ducksalad   2 years ago (edited)

                  You’re probably right on the suicide bomber.

                  There’s the second sentence though: “There are no rules and laws are nothing more than a weapon to be arbitrarily applied to the people.”

                  Based on other stuff he’s posted, I get the impression he really does believe that stuff like the process for passing bills in Congress, or judicial review, is all bullshit. Maybe he thinks it’s sissy weakling stuff that prevents strong men from doing what is needed.

                  But of course he can speak for himself.

                  1. Nardz   2 years ago

                    I'm simply acknowledging reality, you useless simp.
                    But I'll be fair- go ahead and make the argument that we have a government beholden to the constitution, operating ethically within its bounds, and not behaving in a totalitarian manner.
                    Tell us how justice is equally applied to all, and how the Bills that are passed are consistent with the founders' design.
                    Tell us what supports your faith.

                  2. Libertariantranslator   2 years ago

                    If you're wasting breath on Fardz, that one can speak to itself and a half-dozen nationalsocialist whack jobs, and mebbe to youse... if that's the company you keep. President Muffley summed it up addressing Turgidson.

    3. Sevo   2 years ago

      Fuck off and die, TDS-addled pile of shit.

  31. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/jessgill03/status/1663225248945242112

    Leftists admit mass immigration is equivalent to colonisation. They see it as payback for Britain’s history…

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Two wrongs now make a right.

    2. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   2 years ago

      Too bad the spicks aren't native to America, doesn't anyone remember the conquistadors?
      We should take the Spaniards approach and say yeah we killed you good, sucks to be you

    3. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      Most of the immigration is coming from countries that were ruled, but never colonized by Britain. Like MENA, Pakistan, India and Nigeria.

    4. Hank Ferrous   2 years ago

      Pretty difficult to take a 'journalist' seriously if she (?) chooses to ask the fuckwit wearing elf ears about immigration.

  32. Jefferson's Ghost   2 years ago

    "The senators' idea is to make fentanyl trafficking a priority for the Pentagon by classifying it as a national security threat to the United States."

    How very cool: the same folks who (largely) created the "crisis" now want said "crisis" deemed a national security threat. Mr. Orwell is proven correct once again.

  33. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Alexandria Ocasio-Lenin

    https://www.thecentersquare.com/opinion/article_11a5ea36-fe30-11ed-9cff-df1a668481b3.html

    Winston Churchill once compared Vladimir Lenin to a “plague bacillus” (a deadly virus) that arrived at the precise moment it could do the most harm. The night Lenin arrived, he was greeted by a mob of dissidents who willingly bowed to his rhetoric. The next day, Lenin was speaking at a frantic pace making promises of equal wealth, health care and status to the peasantry and factory workers.

    From when she was first elected to Congress in 2018, U.S. House Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's political career has been a religion dedicated to championing social and racial justice in America. Her salient issues are wealth disparity, a dislike for American institutions and a denial of self-imposed progress. AOC's solutions for reform are cut from the same branch as those ranted by the socialist Lenin.

    Billed as a Democratic Socialist, she fiercely criticizes big corporations for their purported greed and oppression of working class Americans. She claimed online that retail giant Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos made billions because he paid his workers starvation wages and denied them health-care benefits.

    Every chapter in AOC 's playbook is an updated rehash of Lenin's bible, "Revolution at the Gates." AOC believes by taxing the wealthiest Americans by as much as 75%, and giving it to those that have less, this forced wealth equality will solve most all racial and U.S. socioeconomic problems.

    When Fidel Castro became dictator of Cuba, he promised the people a life devoid of poverty and inequality, and proclaimed that capitalism is the root of all evils. When Lenin ended the Romanov dynasty, he promised Russian workers benefits, equality in income, free education, ending poverty and free health care. Does this sound familiar? AOC has made the exact same promises as Lenin.

    High ranking Democrats and colleagues in her own party view AOC's ambition and causes with apprehension. Their criticisms are well founded. She is isolated and protected from criticism with like-thinking socialist thinkers. Her own personal hit squad includes Reps. Ilhan Omar, D-MN, Rashida Tlaib, D-MI, and Ayanna Pressley, D-MA, Cori Bush, D-MO, and Jamaal Bowman, D-NY.

    Lenin was a genius and plotted every move he made strategically, to subjugate Russia. Fortunately AOC is not in the same league as Lenin, but she is just as dangerous since she continues to criticize capitalism and excogitate these impossible theories about socialism in America. This is most concerning since her greatest fans, the Millennials and Gen Z, believe her.

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      The thing that always strikes me, is that Lenin arrived in Russia after the revolution had already occurred. Together with Trotsky he plotted a coup 9 months later, and took over from the actual revolutionaries.
      And the Imperial German government paid his way.

  34. damikesc   2 years ago

    "• A Tennessee woman was given "a lifesaving emergency hysterectomy, ending her opportunity to give birth to more children, after she says she was denied medically necessary abortion care at a hospital in her home state for life-threatening complications earlier in her pregnancy," reports ABC News."

    So, ENB does not read beyond the opener, apparently. Not a shocker. Every single one of the stories she has EVER posted on this whole "Woman nearly died because she could not get an abortion" stories are, INEVITABLY, utter bullshit that she just believes wholesale because it fits into her laughably myopic worldview and lack of any knowledge on the actual topic at hand.

    She had an ectopic pregnancy. Meaning it was not a viable pregnancy. Which means abortion laws were irrelevant to her (abortions are the ending of a VIABLE pregnancy, FFS).

    That you, ENB, have no problems with some doctors putting women at risk to pitch a hissy fit is rather damning of you. Why do you want to see women die to have doctors make a political point? Why do you not want the doctors punished for refusing to do the job they are obligated to do?

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Besides that , I’m told you don’t need a uterus to have a baby.

    2. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

      Progressives are easily fooled by quick headlines. ENB has demonstrated this over and over again. You can very often refute the point she is making with information in the same fucking article she links.

      Probably a result of their brains atrophying, due to spending so much time reading confirmation bias on Twitter and retweeting it.

      1. damikesc   2 years ago

        I'd like to see an enterprising reporter talk to the hospital's legal staff and ask why they permit doctors to not terminate non-viable pregnancies, as no law outlaws that whatsoever.

        1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

          Would be a slam dunk lawsuit. You knowingly dont treat an ectopic and you are in violation of the law, full stop. There is no law preventing you from doing so, and it would be easily provable negligence and a guaranteed win (for the patient, if they survive) and loss (of millions for the hospital, and the physicians estate)

          1. damikesc   2 years ago

            You'd think ENB might ask that question.

            You'd be wrong, of course, though.

          2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

            Thank you, armchair medical malpractice attorney!

        2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

          That’s a reasonable expectation.

      2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        Progressives are easily fooled by quick headlines.

        OK, what is your actual refutation based on the details in the article?

        1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

          ""[My doctor] told me I needed to do the surgery. If I didn't, I could die; the baby could die," Hollis said." - life of the mother exception

          "she could develop a cesarean scar pregnancy, a type of ectopic pregnancy" - ectopic pregnancy has never been a reason to refuse care, and in fact it demands action

          "Hollis found out that she did have a cesarean scar pregnancy, with the pregnancy bulging out of her uterus, and a placenta accreta" - again, confirming it was ectopic, therefore a threat to the mother

          All easily found in the article. But of course, those dont make for big headlines like "woman denied life saving abortion!"

          1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

            There was no ectopic pregnancy exception to the law at the time all this occurred. See below.

          2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

            ENBs take is hot only dishonest but frankly baffling. This was a baby that the parents wanted. But in the context of a very complicated pregnancy they agreed at some point to seek an abortion but ultimately decided against it. I'm sorry but if my wife's life was in danger I'd figure out how to get a couple of days off. That spin doesn't pass the smell test. In any case the baby apparently continued to thrive despite serious issues with the pregnancy and mom ultimately toughed it out until she could produce a viable fetus. This is a happy ending story all around for the parents the doctors and obviously this child. In ENBs bizzaro take the fetus should have been flushed out so mom could make more babies down the road. But the baby didn't create a need for a hysterotomy, the pregnancy did. Whether the baby lived or died mom would need a hysterectomy. But she ended up with a daughter which would make it less tragic. Really just desperate fiction writing here.

    3. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   2 years ago

      I told my wife if the obgyn is pro abortion get a new one, because patients to them are a means to an end. They will kill a person to prove a point.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        Yup.

        The same with doctors up here recommending MAID. Any doctor willfully violating the Hippocratic oath is as dangerous as an axe killer.

        1. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   2 years ago

          Lizzy bordon only killed 2

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        Keep in mind, a lot of these same doctors allowed nurses to kill COVID patients via shoving a vent down their throat for days on end, just so they could dunk on people who didn't get the Fauci Ouchie.

        Doctors these days aren't any less ideological than college professors, journalists, actors, or school teachers.

    4. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

      And yeah, it's actually built into the definition of "Abortion" in Tennessee law. Terminating an ectopic or molar pregnancy is not an abortion.

      https://casetext.com/statute/tennessee-code/title-39-criminal-offenses/chapter-15-offenses-against-the-family/part-2-abortion/section-39-15-213-see-note-criminal-abortion-affirmative-defense

      1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago (edited)

        Ugh. Be back in a minute…

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Finally trying for a cite to back up your assertions, Mikey?

        2. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   2 years ago

          Can you make it be back never?

      2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        I’m pretty sure that exception was just added in an amendment signed by the governor of Tennessee on April 28th. Cites will be provided when I get a chance to get on a real computer instead of my phone.

        1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

          The article says the birth and hysterectomy all happened last December.

        2. damikesc   2 years ago

          The definition of birth has always required viability.

          You cannot abort a non-viable pregnancy. They will not be alive at birth no matter what anybody does.

          1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

            Uh huh. So you want a ob/gyn to stake their career on your legal opinion.

            1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

              You're so astonishingly dishonest.

            2. damikesc   2 years ago

              If they are unaware of it, they should not be practicing in the first place.

              People like you are why we have directions on shampoo, you realize.

              "It didn't say not to eat it. How would I know?"

              1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago (edited)

                I’m sure it is not a matter of the OB/GYNs not knowing about various types of non-viable pregnancies, and more about legal risk.

                You, who have no skin in this game, are awfully nonchalant about their legal risks.

                1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

                  You can not prove such a legal risk exists.

      3. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        OK, I'm on a real computer in a real web browser instead of trying to do this from my phone:

        A Thinking Mind's link to the Tennessee code says that the section on abortion was "Amended by 2023 Tenn. Acts, ch. 313, [s 1 - s 3], eff. 4/28/2023".

        So, that is this:

        https://publications.tnsosfiles.com/acts/113/pub/pc0313.pdf

        And right there in Section 1, it says: "Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-15-213(a)(1), is amended by adding the language 'to terminate an ectopic or molar pregnancy,' before the language 'or to remove a dead fetus'."

      4. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        But let's look for additional cites to ensure I've got the story straight. First of all let's look at the article ENB linked to:

        https://abcnews.go.com/US/tennessee-woman-gets-emergency-hysterectomy-after-doctors-deny/story?id=99457461

        It mentions the amendment, but doesn't explain clearly the timeline of when the amendment happened vs. when the birth and hysterectomy occurred:

        "An amendment was recently added to the Tennessee ban allowing abortions for ectopic pregnancies, so physicians are now able to treat patients with complications similar to Hollis"

        " The baby was delivered on Dec. 13, but [the mother] was only able to go home on Feb. 23, needing oxygen and other interventions at the hospital."

      5. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        There are several articles online talking about the Tennessee bill to amend the abortion law. Here's one example:

        https://tennesseelookout.com/2023/03/13/support-grows-for-abortion-law-changes-to-save-life-of-the-mother/

      6. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        So, what can we conclude:

        1. People who bothered to dig for the facts: me, Mike Laursen;
        People who didn't explain the timeline of events well: the author of the linked ABC News article.
        People who didn't dig for the facts before posting the quick link: ENB;
        People who didn't dig for the facts before making sweeping declarations about the quick link in these comments: damikesc, Mike Parsons, A Thinking Mind, maybe others I have muted;
        People who made smart-ass quip before digging for all the facts: FoE.

        2. The truth is somewhere in the middle. The original law made no exception for ectopic pregnancies, but it has been amended now. (It is notable that Tennessee Right to Life fought the amendment. Check out the Tennessee Lookout article.)

        1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          "The truth is somewhere in the middle. The original law made no exception for ectopic pregnancies, but it has been amended now."

          The truth isn't somewhere in the middle. You, ENB and the ABC News article lied.

          The amendment was for clarity and to head off abortion fanatic rhetoric. But most of us here know that it was unnecessary because abortion isn't and never has been the treatment for an ectopic pregnancy. And your ignorance of that doesn't excuse you.

        2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          People who are smugger than shit: Mike Laursen.

        3. damikesc   2 years ago

          That was always the case. They had to add in the extra verbiage because the crayon eaters of the world were trying to murder women due to having a hissy fit.

          Sorry if you're too fucking stupid to even use shampoo properly.

          Hint: An ectopic pregnancy, BY FUCKING DEFAULT, is non-viable.

          1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

            Cool, you can accuse me for a second time of being too stupid to use shampoo. And I can accuse you for a second time of being awfully nonchalant about the doctors' legal risks, when you have no skin in this game whatsoever.

            1. RahRah   2 years ago

              "And I can accuse you for a second time of being awfully nonchalant about the doctors’ legal risks"

              Except you made up the legal risk.

              What you did was like claiming the remedy for a toothache is abortion, and you sure hope dentists don't get into trouble for pulling teeth under abortion laws. And when someone tells you not to be so stupid, replying "you're awfully nonchalant about the doctors’ legal risks".

              So yes, damikesc is correct about your intellect.

    5. Dillinger   2 years ago

      >>she just believes wholesale

      or peddles wholesale

    6. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      Which means abortion laws were irrelevant to her (abortions are the ending of a VIABLE pregnancy, FFS).

      The argument is always this hand-wavey, dismissive armchair medical malpractice attorney-ing. "The doctors wouldn't get in legal trouble. They are just grandstanding. I know it because... well, OK, my day job is being a plumber."

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        Claim: "HURR ARMCHAIR MEDICAL MALPRACTICE ATTORNEY HERPITY DERPITY DOOOOOOO!"

        Reality: A Thinking Mind --"And yeah, it’s actually built into the definition of “Abortion” in Tennessee law. Terminating an ectopic or molar pregnancy is not an abortion."

        1. perlmonger   2 years ago

          Claim: Mike Liarson is a fucking retard.

          Reality: Mike Liarson IS a fucking retard.

          1. Hank Ferrous   2 years ago

            This is unfair to fucking retards.

      2. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   2 years ago

        Slit your wrists you retard

      3. damikesc   2 years ago

        Again, would love to see somebody interview the legal department of that hospital on the record in regards to it.

        1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

          I would, too. But it's not necesary in this case, because I dug into what actually happened. See above.

          1. damikesc   2 years ago

            It is cute watching little kids try on their parents' clothes.

            Well, until they hit 2. Then it gets a bit much.

            1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

              Okay...

  35. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    A Democrat populist reckoning?

    https://www.thefp.com/p/rfk-jr-and-the-populist-wave

    The most recent CNN poll shows Kennedy winning one in five voters; Williamson, 8 percent; and another 8 percent of Democrats supporting “someone else.” On top of that, according to the same poll, Biden’s favorable ratings have been slipping: 42 percent of all voters had a positive view of him in December; today, it’s 35 percent. He’s been underwater, with more voters disapproving than approving of his administration, since late August 2021.

    RFK Jr. likes to talk about “Big Tech,” “Big Pharma,” “Big Media.” A decade ago, when liberals were still hostile to supposedly greedy, publicly traded companies, that kind of language would have resonated on the left. Today, with many of those same companies implementing the DEI-ESG-Covid regime championed by progressive elites, the left seems mostly at home with corporate America—and any talk of Big This or Big That sounds conspiratorial.

    He [Theo Von] was informed that Kennedy had violated the site’s medical misinformation policy. Among Kennedy’s more provocative assertions were the claims that, when it comes to the Covid vaccine, “the press is utterly captured,” and “all of the other institutions of government that should stand between a greedy corporation and a vulnerable child have been compromised.” There was, as with so many of Kennedy’s claims, an element of truth—legacy media has been very quick to buy whatever the Biden administration is selling—mixed with a great deal of vagueness and insinuation.

    To be clear, Kennedy will probably lose big. He lacks money and voters, and it’s unclear which, if any, major Democratic constituencies or donors—unions, trial lawyers, public school teachers, George Soros, Michael Bloomberg—would back him. (“A big chunk of his base is Republican obviously,” one Bay Area supporter, a former Silicon Valley executive, texted me.)

    Until Covid, anti-vaxxers were a little likelier to be progressive than conservative. But now, with Covid, it’s right-wingers who are more likely to be anti-vax than left-wingers. (Such is the power of our tribalization.) Which explains why Kennedy’s supporters fear coming out of the proverbial closet and alienating their more mainstream Democratic friends and colleagues. I asked Kennedy what he thought of that, and he laughed and said: “I suppose I’m disreputable.”

    “The Democratic leadership establishment hijacked the party,” Marianne Williamson told me. Williamson ran in the Democratic presidential primary the last time round, and few took her seriously. She was a healer of souls, and she sounded like it. “The real you is not a body,” she tweeted in January 2016. “Your body is merely a suit of clothes. Physical birth was not your beginning and physical death is not your end.” Still, it was Williamson who uttered perhaps the most memorable and truest words of the whole race, when she talked of a “dark, psychic force” in America today.

    A former Democratic congressman who did not want to be named and is supporting Kennedy said that, among seasoned Democrats, “there’s a concern” about what’s happening to the party, “but it’s almost like that which is not to be talked about. The people who are pros, they know there’s a reckoning coming.” A recent survey showed Donald Trump, who was impeached twice and found liable for sexual assault earlier this month, beating Biden by seven points.

    “It’s become a war party,” Kennedy said of the Democrats. “It’s become the party of the neocons. It’s become the party of Wall Street and the party of censorship, which, I think, was, you know, antithetical to liberal values.” The worst part, he said, was that Democrats, who were supposed to be the aspirational party, the party of idealism and possibility, had become the party of fear. “We’re supposed to be the party that tells people that the only thing to fear is fear itself.”

    An RFK Jr. supporter in Hollywood, who feared professional and social backlash if he spoke openly, messaged me: “I’ll never vote Dem again, unless it’s Bobby.” Referring to the journalist Matt Taibbi, who, like The Free Press, angered many Democrats with his reporting on the Twitter Files, he said: “These people want to arrest Taibbi”—an allusion to Rep. Stacey Plaskett’s April 13 letter to Taibbi suggesting his reporting could land him in prison. “Their science is shit, and they’re war-mongering, racially- and gender-obsessed lunatics at this point. It’s madness.”

    The thing is, 20 percent in the polls isn’t quixotic. The confusion and sense of loss on the left—the people mystified by the mask mandates and the party’s coziness with big pharmaceutical and tech companies—that is real. It is percolating across the country. And just as it upended right-wing norms and expectations, it will upend the whole progressive project. It will redefine it.

    1. Nardz   2 years ago

      Democrats will ultimately do whatever they're told to do.

    2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      Until Covid, anti-vaxxers were a little likelier to be progressive than conservative. But now, with Covid, it’s right-wingers who are more likely to be anti-vax than left-wingers

      I'm anti ant-vaxx term misusage.

      1. Zeb   2 years ago

        Yeah, having doubts about particular vaccines isn't "anti-vax".

        1. Super Scary   2 years ago

          They came out the gate running with the anti-covid vaccine rhetoric and did everything they could to conflate people that didn't want a specific vaccine to people that don't want any vaccines (like RRM) at all. Very disingenuous.

          Of course, this was after the plan to chide people for being "afraid of needles," but that didn't really work out in the long run so they stopped doing it.

          1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

            Not sure who this "they" are, but I'm still willing to tease COVID-19 anti-vaxxers about being afraid of needles.

            1. Super Scary   2 years ago

              "Not sure who this “they” are"

              "They" as in the people that did what I said. People like you, who did what I said: "I’m still willing to tease COVID-19 anti-vaxxers about being afraid of needles."

        2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          The mRNA injections are not even really a vaccine.

          1. Zeb   2 years ago

            Arguably true, but I think that argument is beside the point.

    3. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      Referring to the journalist Matt Taibbi, who, like The Free Press, angered many Democrats with his reporting on the Twitter Files, he said: “These people want to arrest Taibbi”—an allusion to Rep. Stacey Plaskett’s April 13 letter to Taibbi suggesting his reporting could land him in prison. “Their science is shit, and they’re war-mongering, racially- and gender-obsessed lunatics at this point. It’s madness.”

      Well, and we could "allude" to the no-shit federal agents that showed up on his doorstep.

      1. perlmonger   2 years ago

        Their science is shit, and they’re war-mongering, racially- and gender-obsessed lunatics at this point.

        "At this point", feh.

  36. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    HELL YEAH

    Christie to announce 2024 bid next Tuesday in New Hampshire

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/31/politics/chris-christie-2024/index.html

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Makes Donny look slim in comparison.

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        the Monster Who Ate New Jersey.

    2. damikesc   2 years ago

      What policies, PRECISELY, of his do you like, pedo?

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        Policies? Republican primaries aren't about policies!

        WE WANT SOME GOOD-ASS FIGHTIN' AND NAME CALLIN'!

        1. Sevo   2 years ago

          turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
          turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

          1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

            He's not lying. Name calling and fighting amongst Republicans is exactly what Buttplug wants... because he's a Democrat.

            1. Sevo   2 years ago

              Well, accidents happen.

        2. damikesc   2 years ago

          So...no policies. Got it.

          So, you support him...why?

          He has few policies similar to Kemp, whom you say you support.

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

            I did like Kemp years ago. Damn, you have a good memory.

            Back in the 90s I thought I aligned with secular Northeastern Republicans and I supported William Weld for president.

            Then the Fundie-Nut takeover of the GOP with Dumbya and 9/11 happened.

            1. Sevo   2 years ago

              Keep in mind that turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
              If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
              turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

            2. damikesc   2 years ago

              Oh. You only like WASPs. Got it.

              Not surprised, mind you.

        3. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Cite, pedo?

    3. Sevo   2 years ago

      turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    4. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      What's next, JB Pritzker to announce his 2024 bid and balance the scale with Christie?

  37. Brandybuck   2 years ago

    It's a moral panic a minute over at the Senate! Where would we be without these brave election winners to focus our fears in on ourselves?

    Hint: Prohibition leads to stronger proscribed drugs. Back in alcohol prohibition people switched from beer and wine to booze and hooch. Marijuana prohibition turned mild ditch weed into potent strains. Cocaine prohibition led to crack. And heroin prohibition led to the use of high potency medical opiates such as Fentanyl(tm). The Fentanyl(tm) scare is a direct result of the War on Drugs.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Captain obvious has entered the chat.

      1. Brandybuck   2 years ago

        People need to be reminded of it, because every election they act as if they forgot.

  38. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Dump the unlibertarian prevailing wage laws.

    https://nypost.com/2023/05/30/ditch-this-jim-crow-era-mandate-that-hurts-minorities-most/

    Congress passed a “prevailing wage” law in 1931 specifically intended to favor white workers and white-only labor unions over nonunionized and minority workers.

    Jim Crow is long gone. But prevailing-wage laws, which restrict qualified businesses from competing for taxpayer-funded public-works projects unless they comply with a host of onerous requirements, are back with a vengeance.

    These bureaucrat-generated formulas are often unrealistic and difficult to implement: If a general laborer happens to hammer a nail during the course of his workday, for example, the employer must document that task and pay him as a “carpenter,” at a rate up to three times his regular pay.

    What’s more, these mandates often come with stiff penalties even for minor infractions: Contractors who fall out of compliance face heavy fines, crippling lawsuits, legal fees and even prison.

    These mandates have a troubling history of racism, anti-immigrant prejudice and government-backed favoritism toward politically connected unions.

    That’s the real story behind the 1931 federal Davis-Bacon Act, which mandates wages and benefits on federally assisted construction projects nationwide.

    It’s well documented that Congress passed the law to prioritize white workers and white-only unions over nonunionized, black and immigrant workers.

    The bill’s supporters didn’t mince words: The congressional record leading up to the law’s enactment is full of derogatory references to “competition with white labor,” “cheap bootleg labor,” “large aggregation of Negro labor” and the like.

    Don’t listen to the empty promises: Prevailing-wage laws hurt the very people they’re supposed to help.

    1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

      Same could be said of minimum wage.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        From the article:

        Consider minimum-wage hikes: They’re supposed to boost pay for low-income workers, but in reality they lead to fewer jobs for those who need them most and fewer hours and benefits for those who do manage to stay employed.

        1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

          Yup. Libertarians have been talking about eliminating minimum wage for a long time. It's one of the many reasons progressives say libertarians are ultra-conservatives.

        2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

          The minimum wage is especially evil because of the unseen. Proponents see people getting raises and don't see many people getting laid off when it goes up because employers don't like to let people go. They then claim it's great and wonderful. What they don't see is all the people who never get past the 'no job no experience, no experience no job' catch-22 that price floors on labor create. You can't count the people who never get hired. That's the unseen.

    2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      As Thomas Sowell so sagely observed: The ultimate minimum wage is $0 per hour.

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  40. Sevo   2 years ago

    "Around 40% of the roughly 500 stream gauges across the state are running above normal, provisional data from the U.S. Geological Survey shows. A few dozen are registering record highs for this time of year, especially along the central and southern Sierra."
    https://www.sfchronicle.com/california/article/river-flow-snowpack-water-18119571.php#:~:text=Around%2040%25%20of%20the%20roughly%20500%20stream%20gauges,year%2C%20especially%20along%20the%20central%20and%20southern%20Sierra.

    And how is the CA state government responding to this largess, given that moonbeam has told us we are in a permanent state of drought?
    Why, the CA state government is watching it flow right into the ocean!

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      Asking because I don't know.

      What would normally be done with the meltwater?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Most places try to trap excess meltwater and release it slowly. The powers that be in California have determined that they shouldn't try to capture the excess water to use in dry periods (of which there are many, parts of it, including the Central Valley, are a desert). These are policies and shortsightedness that go back decades. These morons are under the odd and highly mistaken impression, in spite of the geological and meteorological record, that California is typically a wet paradise.

        1. Sevo   2 years ago

          Or capture it and release it after it has been put to human use.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            Las Vegas does this quite a bit, especially the casinos. All of those water features, notably the Bellagio's fountain, come from post-human-use water, graywater. It's water used for washing, and reused, after cleaning, for the water features. They do likewise for their golf courses.

            1. Dillinger   2 years ago

              I thought I smelled Snuggle on hole 8 the other day ...

              1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

                Ew! That shit makes me sneeze and itch just being around it! I immediately double-bag it and tie it up when a customer buys it. That evil little Snuggle Bear needs to be ventilated with a blow-gun!

            2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

              The estrogen makes the 9th hole extra bitchy.

              1. mad.casual   2 years ago

                First she gets bumped from the foursome, then stung by a bee, what do you expect?

                (A: A lawsuit about how the courses' rules against fivesomes is anti-woman and anti-LGBTQIA.)

  41. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/AuronMacintyre/status/1663899495363403779?t=6MaeGLz_PZzXZ4tlEZdoMw&s=19

    The take away for conservatives should be that labor and civil rights law actively work to ensure woke dominance in every area of American life

    Companies can and do refuse to higher/aggressively fire people for vocally supporting a traditional view on marriage or sexuality

    [Link]

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      Did he mean "hire"?

  42. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Bringing censorship back, French-style.

    https://rmx.news/france/under-macron-france-brings-back-preventive-censorship-after-more-than-140-years/

    Laurent Nuñez, the police prefect of Paris, motivated the ban by stating in his decision that: “There is a serious risk that, on the occasion of this tribute, statements inciting hatred and discrimination against a group of people because of their origin or their membership or non-membership of an ethnic group, nation or religion will be made (…) of such a nature as to call into question national cohesion and the principles enshrined in the Declaration of the Rights of Man and the Citizen.”

    This is exactly what preventive censorship is about: Nothing has yet been done or said by the Iliade Institute or any participant to the banned symposium, but this might happen, so it should not take place at all.

    This type of censorship was previously eliminated in France with the 1881 law on freedom of the press and up to now it was only re-established in times of war.

    But the May 9 decision by Interior Minister Gérald Darmanin goes even further because it targets organizations that have not necessarily been convicted in the past but belong to the “far right” or “ultra-right” in the eyes of French authorities.

    Le Gallou, a former high-ranking civil servant, says this reflects a much wider political tendency: “The government is weakened by its policies that go contrary to the aspirations of the French, in particular on two major subjects: the massive immigration being distributed, little by little, in rural France… and the limitation of private property in relation to the development of wind power.” So the political leaders have only two solutions left, Le Gallou thinks: “massive propaganda and censorship. There are two forms of censorship, which are the direct censorship we have experienced and censorship by intimidation. This is what I call the ‘totalitarian pincer movement.'”

    The police prefect’s decision to ban the Iliade Institute’s symposium was preceded by an article published on the left-wing website Médiapart. It was written with information on the late historian Dominique Venner that could only have been leaked to the author by the authorities, so it seems that this publication was part of the authorities’ plot to ban the event.

    In the 2017 presidential campaign, which brought Emmanuel Macron to power, Médiapart was one of the two left-wing media portals that regularly received documents illegally leaked by the police and judicial authorities in the case mounted against center-right candidate François Fillon to derail his campaign and make room for the heir of Socialist President François Hollande, i.e., his former special counselor for Europe and former Economy Minister Emmanuel Macron.

    So it appears the same media outlet is still being used by the executive power to attack its opponents in a very unconstitutional way, and one may wonder in this situation if France is still a full-fledged democracy.

  43. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Hit 22 times by shoplifters in 2 days.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2023-05-30/old-navy-latest-chain-store-chased-out-san-franciscos-downtown

    Over the Memorial Day weekend, Old Navy announced they will be leaving their Market Street location on July 1st, becoming the latest retail chain store to leave the city’s downtown in recent months.

    According to Gap, the parent company of Old Navy, the official reason is that a new location is needed in San Francisco is needed to better serve customers, despite the Old Navy having been there for over two decades.

    However, Old Navy employees gave a starkly different reason for the closing. In a CBS interview over the weekend, employees pinpointed the closing due to the issue of rampant shoplifting in the store.

    “They’re (shoplifters) there every day,” explained one employee. “When I’m on the floor walking around I would say at least 12, 14 during the day. It’s really bad because it’s downtown San Francisco and it’s really out of control. We were hit 22 times by thieves in the last two days. And in the last year, the problem has worsened.”

    “I recognize a lot of them and they’re just super comfortable, sometimes they’ll take two or three mesh bags at a time, and that sometimes is $2,000 worth of stuff. I feel I’m not as safe as I should be. I’ve seen one guy carry a hammer before, so you don’t know what these people’s intentions are when they’re trying to steal, and I feel like sometimes my life could be in jeopardy.”

    1. Illocust   2 years ago

      It's notable that the business doesn't want to cite shoplifting as the reason for moving.

    2. (Impeach Biden) Weigel's Cock Ring   2 years ago

      "Shoplifter" more accurately describes a single individual who tries to steal with stealth and sneakiness. The people we're talking about here are much better described as "looters". And like many types of predatory wild animals, looters almost always operate in coordinated packs.

      For most of my life I simply didn't care when a looters would target the wrong individual or establishment and end up getting his head blown off. Now I actually find myself celebrating when it happens and rooting for it to happen more often.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        Damn, I agree with Mikey for once.

        ITS A SIGN BOYS!

        1. Sevo   2 years ago

          turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

      2. mad.casual   2 years ago

        “Shoplifter” more accurately describes a single individual who tries to steal with stealth and sneakiness.

        And convenience or lack of premeditation. If you walk into the store with an empty bag, or two or three, you aren't shoplifting.

        1. Sevo   2 years ago

          And if you walk in with 10 of your closest friends, each knowing the per-thug limit, it's not "shoplifting".

    3. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      the one security guard in SF who defended himself is getting prosecuted.

    4. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago (edited)

      Just think of the element that will be drawn to grocery stores when EBT benefits are increased. Looters come out in droves when the first of the month rolls around. Looters love the distraction of increased crowds.

      Debt deal would lead to more spending on SNAP benefits.

    5. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

      But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security. Such has been the patient sufferance of these colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former systems of government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these states. To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world.

      He has refused his assent to laws the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

      San Francisco certainly has that first one nailed down. I figure that the authoritarian governments in California are at least partially guilty of more than half of the grievances levied against King George. The prosecutors and judges enjoy sovereign immunity. At what point is it fair for the populace to just flat out declare their independence and form a new state?

  44. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

    "Abortion politics are holding up construction of the U.S. Space Command's headquarters."

    More precisely Democrat abortion politics are holding up construction.

    "The Biden administration is considering reversing a plan to move the facility to Alabama because of concerns about the state's strict new anti-abortion laws.

  45. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>appeals court held that Section 230 prevented six Jane Does from suing Reddit

    tribute from Reddit likely always > tribute from six Jane Does

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      I assume you mean 'tribute from reddit > tribute from a rando on twitter posting the images'?

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        aw, usually I only confuse Mike.

  46. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>Abortion politics are holding up construction of the U.S. Space Command's headquarters.

    if you toothless cousin-fuckers don't start killing more babies we won't give you the rocket show.

    1. mad.casual   2 years ago

      Thanos : You could not live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me. I thought by eliminating half of life the other half would thrive. But you have shown me that's impossible. And as long as there are those that remember what was, there will always be those that are unable to accept what can be. They will resist.

      Tony Stark : Yep, we're all kinds of stubborn.

      Thanos : I'm thankful. Because now I know what I must do. I will shred this universe down to its last atom. And then with the stones you've collected for me create a new one teeming with life that knows not what it has lost but only what it has been given. A grateful universe.

      Steve Rogers : Born out of blood.

      Thanos : They'll never know it. Because you won't be alive to tell them.

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        lol.

        pulled over this morning to help a turtle off the road and pointed him in the other direction. Then I thought "mad. would have made soup"

    2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      You do realize all the new draconian abortion laws aren't actually stopping any abortions, don't you?

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        the excision of Roe v. Wade from this universe was sufficient. everything will be fine.

      2. Dillinger   2 years ago

        you don't like my reinterpretation of the tagline?

      3. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

        so what's the problem with them?

  47. MWAocdoc   2 years ago (edited)

    “Every family in America has been impacted in one way or another by this crisis. If we want to prevent future tragedies …” No, “we” don’t particularly want to prevent future tragedies! No one forced the addicts who overdosed on fentanyl to take an overdose. And No, what these idiots are proposing to become laws will not prevent any future tragedies, but they will cost a bundle, waste a lot of money, divert the Defense Department from more important and realistic priorities, and cause a lot of unintended collateral consequences. So what else is new?

  48. Moonrocks   2 years ago

    John Kerry targets agriculture as part of climate crusade

    "We can't get to net-zero, we don't get this job done unless agriculture is front and center as part of the solution. So all of us understand here the depths of this mission."

    1. Sevo   2 years ago

      All of this in an effort to avert a "crisis", which, after 30 years, has yet to have one single prediction proven true.

      1. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   2 years ago

        60 years of false predictions

    2. Dillinger   2 years ago

      so long after Lurch is toes-up, we won't have any food.

    3. Libertariantranslator   2 years ago

      Izzis the same Kerry whose December 1988 "Kerry Report" gloated that the DEA invasion of Colombia to kill and loot plant leaf producers was a goood thing? If so, what countries does he say the DOE should invade so as to kill and loot electric power producers?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Well, I'll be damned, it is. And look at who is on the committee, it's our Idiot in Chief, Joe Biden. Cocaine Mitch is there too.

        https://ia802208.us.archive.org/35/items/Kerry-Report-Drugs-Contras/Drugs%2C%20Law%20Enforcement%20and%20Foreign%20Policy%20%281988%29_text.pdf

    4. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      This man is evil. There's no other way to look at it.

    5. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      "Hey, Lurch! Why the long face?". 😉

    6. perlmonger   2 years ago

      Tar? Feathers? Torches?

  49. Sevo   2 years ago

    Pretty sure CNN has someone on this:

    "’IPhone’ spotted in painting from 1882 sparks time travel theories"
    [...]
    "Art fans have been left convinced of “time travel” after spotting what they're claiming to be an “iPhone” in a piece of art from 1882.
    The 19th-century image shows the famous Scottish poet Robert Burns holding a rectangular item in a piece of art by the artists R. Josey and James Archer..."
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/article/iphone-spotted-in-painting-from-1882-sparks-time-travel-theories/ar-AA1bW4cR?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=9592eb1a73d84bdd8f0057c3f1aa7639&ei=20

    1. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   2 years ago

      Yep rectangle boxes didn't exist until the ipone

      1. Sevo   2 years ago

        Dunno if you've read Von Daniken's fantasies:
        'Well, it doesn't look like a hammer, therefore it must be an alien gizmo!'

        1. Dillinger   2 years ago

          dude you can see the spaceship totally carved into that wall.

    2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      That doesn't even look like an iPhone but it definitely looks like a book.

      1. mad.casual   2 years ago

        Even if you had irrefutable evidence that it was an electronic device, it looks more like an Apple Newton than an iPhone.

      2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        Two other pictures of the same subject definitely showing a book.

        1. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/39/58/67/395867edc3fdf4f59636532813f9d7f3.jpg

        2. https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/491807221785577645/

  50. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    Fentanyl can be easier to smuggle into the country than pills or heroin.

    You had me until this line. Fentanyl is smuggled into the country in pill form. So what in hell are you talking about?

    1. Dillinger   2 years ago

      ya To Catch A Smuggler led me to believe fentanyl comes across looking just like ecstasy pills

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago (edited)

        The reason Fentanyl rose to prominence is a combination of it being considerably more powerful than regular opioids, so they need less fentanyl to effectuate the same high, and… drug users want the stuff because they need less fentanyl to effectuate the same high.

        So on the first part, yes, they can smuggle considerably less fentanyl for the same street value, making it easier to smuggle.

        1. Dillinger   2 years ago (edited)

          and the dudes on Intervention who were bong-hitting fentanyl make me wonder about the whole “a grain of it can kill a rhino” threats

          1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago (edited)

            Who knows what their tolerance was. I’ve been doing a lot of armchair research into fentanyl lately and it is “attractive” because it takes a lot less to generate the same high.

            I am beginning to think that blaming the entire existence of Fentanyl on the drug war is dubious. The drug war undoubtedly plays a major part, but markets, doing what markets do, are always looking for more efficient, cheaper and better ways to achieve an effect. There seems to be some evidence that drug users WANT this stuff because fentanyl offers a cheaper, more efficient and better way to achieve the same effect.

            1. Dillinger   2 years ago

              I'll stick to my greenskeeping.

            2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

              There seems to be some evidence that drug users WANT this stuff because fentanyl offers a cheaper, more efficient and better way to achieve the same effect.

              Unrefined opium is cheap and efficient. Poppies are as easily grown as any other flower. It is also magnitudes less addictive than any of the substitutes and much more difficult to overdose. The obvious answer, if saving people were the goal, would be to legalize opium.

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            3. Zeb   2 years ago

              I don't think many would choose fentanyl over heroin if both were available for the same cost per high. Fentanyl is shorter acting and I believe less pleasantly euphoric than heroin or morphine.

            4. Hank Ferrous   2 years ago

              Whoa. So you're saying ENB's assertion, and citation (a sullum article that in true spb2 fashion, only provided another assertion of the same point) might be horseshit? That, maybe, just maybe, some folks like getting fucked up? And the fentanyl market likely has nothing to do w/ over-prescription, the War on Drugs, or any of the not very convincing arguments trotted out here? But does have a lot to do with human nature? Stop, that's just crazy talk.That sort of individual liberty and free market argument has no place at reasonmag, Paul.

  51. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

    deal will get a no vote from New York Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

    Now i'm thinking this may be a good deal after all.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      Eh, even if that idiot is doing the right thing for the wrong reason, she's still doing the right thing. Intentions aren't really relevant in this case.

  52. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    • Uganda's president just signed a law assigning the death penalty for "aggravated homosexuality" defined as "serial offenders" of the country's law against same-sex relations or transmission of a fatal disease through gay sex. The new law also makes promoting homosexuality punishable by 20 years in prison.

    Meanwhile, America is literally killing trans people by not allowing tweens to medically transition without parental consent.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      Them: "Not letting us cut off your kids' genitals is trans genocide!"

      Me: "Yes, that's the idea."

    2. Dillinger   2 years ago (edited)

      >>“aggravated homosexuality”

      bringing weapons to bed? new view of swordfighting?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Awfully short swords.

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          Speak for yourself!

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            Well, not everyone can have a photoshopped career in porn.

        2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

          It puts daggers in my eyes, in a good way. 🙂

    3. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   2 years ago

      Paul Pelosi hardest hit... In the head... With a hammer

  53. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

    A Tennessee woman was given "a lifesaving emergency hysterectomy, ending her opportunity to give birth to more children, after she says she was denied medically necessary abortion care at a hospital in her home state for life-threatening complications earlier in her pregnancy,"

    Hollis was recommended a facility in Pittsburgh, but she said traveling for care wasn’t an option because Hollis and her husband both needed to work and couldn’t afford to take time off.

    So, the option for the “medically necessary” abortion was available but declined due to an 8 hour car trip.

    Oddly, ENB fails to note that the baby in question has survived the premature birth and the article barely addresses the baby other than to mention how stressful it has been for the mother. Both completely ignore the chance that she might have needed to undergo a hysterectomy whether the pregnancy was terminated or not. She was within a week of the close of the window for the procedure that would have protected her fertility by sacrificing the developing child.

    Despite the completely unwarranted negative spin, the subtext of this story is that the Tennessee law saved a baby that was wanted from an abortion that ultimately proved to be unnecessary. The state of journalism in America is a joke.

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      The state of journalism in America is Nazi-level evil.

      1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

        When they spin the miracle of this mother surviving such a difficult pregnancy and the baby surviving birth at 26 weeks of gestation as "the state of Tennessee enslaved and sterilized this woman," then, yes, evil is not a gross exaggeration.

        The baby is freaking adorable to boot. The article never identifies baby Alayna a boy or a girl, presumably because they didn't want her to also suffer from premature gender assignment.

    2. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      without even reading deeper into it I knew this story was total bullshit. Thanks for the great summary.

  54. Kungpowderfinger   2 years ago

    Alabama expanded its ban on transgender women playing on K-12 sports teams for girls…

    At least Buffalo Bill can’t complain that sports made their period stop

  55. Jerry B.   2 years ago

    Fentanyl is a threat to people dumb enough to take bootleg Fentanyl. And maybe their families.

  56. Jerry B.   2 years ago

    "...the deal will get a no vote from New York Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, her office said said yesterday."

    Wouldn't it be funny if her "no" vote defeated the legislation, and the government went into default.

  57. Libertariantranslator   2 years ago

    ENB writes well, but the collective noun for Republican Trumpanzees is shrewdness, not gaggle. Also, the looters who banned nonaddictive coke in 1914, peyote in 1929, weed when GOP REALLY meant nazi, and every non-toxic and/or non-addictive drug since 1967 are suddenly shocked, SHOCKED that deadly addictive narcotics have no competition other than libertarian spoiler votes. These same parties have since 1906 forced adding wood methanol to alcohol to blind and kill people.

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      The god's own Gee-Oh-Pee looters, horders and wreckers of Comstockian preproportions, KNOW that the Libertarian party of 1948 had the solution to the travails and sorrows of legal weed. Tobaccy may be grown from the Devil's own flower garden but mary-jane was smokable manna. ReTHUGlicans KNOW that when Dazzling Joe Biden introduced mean-spirited tough-on-drugs mandatory minimums, it was THEIR fault, not his.

    2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      Seriously though, Joe Biden was the Senate's biggest drug warrior and was responsible for all the Tough On Crime drug war legislation, like mandatory minimums, but somehow Hank thinks bad drug policy is Trump and MAGA's fault.

      It just goes to show that reality isn't even a factor for these nuts. His religion has a devil named Trump who's responsible for everything evil. Even if he didn't do it.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Bizarrely enough, Hank led me in the direction of an interesting report (linked above) that Biden, McConnell, and Kerry were all in on. He mentioned something about a December 1988 "Kerry Report".

  58. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

    Alabama expanded its ban on transgender women playing on K-12 sports teams for girls to include college women's sports teams as well.

    This is the way. Good job bama. Keep up the pressure on this deranged cult of idiots.

  59. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

    Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who is also running for president on the Republican ticket, "presents himself as a champion of individual freedom against overweening government. But as governor of Florida, DeSantis has repeatedly contradicted that stance by blurring the line between state and private action, a distinction that is crucial to protecting civil liberties," Reason's Jacob Sullum writes.

    Please. This is utterly disingenous characterization of what he's done. DeSantis has exerted state influence over state-run and state-funded organizations such as public schools. Every state does so in whatever manner they see fit.

    1. mad.casual   2 years ago

      And even where he has blurred the lines, it's in response to actions that have crossed lines and/or to situations where, despite Reason's playtime narrative, similar lines have been pushed well further on down the road decades ago.

      Sure, NYC, SF, and several other major cities, municipalities, and even states around the country and continent have, for decades, banned cis/het/female strip clubs and gun stores within miles of schools, Churches, and residential areas, effectively making them illegal. But, when Ronnie D., eventually, if he does, do something like ban all drag show clubs, it will clearly be an oppressive never-before-seen abuse of power.

  60. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

    A Tennessee woman was given "a lifesaving emergency hysterectomy, ending her opportunity to give birth to more children, after she says she was denied medically necessary abortion care at a hospital in her home state for life-threatening complications earlier in her pregnancy," reports ABC News.

    The one thing we can be sure of is that this is NOT what happened.

  61. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

    A Japanese court says that the country not allowing same-sex marriage is unconstitutional.

    Japan has fallen. In ten years they'll have trannies twerking in front of kindergarteners as part of the curriculum.

    1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

      It's Japan. They'll have kindergartners' dirty underwear for sale in vending machines.

  62. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

    The new law also makes promoting homosexuality punishable by 20 years in prison.

    Fun fact: Every public school teacher in america would go to prison under this law.

  63. Roberta   2 years ago

    How can we reproduce with fentanyl the policy progress we've had with marijuana? Is it going to require that we get millions of Americans to be regular users? Maybe if we can start an epidemic of surgery, wherein large numbers of people, especially the young, experience fentanyl in a safe environment, they'll conclude that it's not so scary? Now, how can we popularize surgery?

  64. TangoDelta   2 years ago

    Really? Disrupt Fentanyl Trafficking Act. They should have gone with Disruptive Act on Fentanyl Trafficking so it would be known as DAFT. Meh, it probably will be anyway.

  65. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

    Can they still play on the boys' teams?

  66. Hattori Hanzo   2 years ago

    Let natural selection play out.

  67. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

    He’s just asking questions.

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  71. Sevo   2 years ago

    turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
    turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

  72. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    Sevo mops splooge up at the Tenderloin gay bath houses every night in San Fran amongst the “elites” that run the city. He silently rages against “the system” as he squeezes each mop into a collection bucket. He prizes each bucket as his contribution to ending the parade of progressive California voters that infuriate him.

    Sevo was once a lover of beat poet Lawrence Ferlinghetti but like Michael Savage before him began to rage against the men who taught him the ways of homosexual evil.

    Now he works daily to rid the city of future deviants.

  73. Sevo   2 years ago

    Remember that turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
    turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

  74. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

    LOL, the hicklib pederast sure does seem to have an intimate knowledge of what he's describing here.

  75. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    It's a redirect. Jeffy is losing the argument, and feels the need to redirect the argument towards one he might have a chance (in his tiny mind) of tying. He's also got enough straw to build himself a full-scale model of a wicker man.

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