Was Anyone Victimized by Trump's 34 Alleged Felonies?
The case against the former president is both morally dubious and legally shaky.

Since the New York indictment of Donald Trump was unsealed last week, critics across the political spectrum have noted the legal problems with transforming one hush payment into 34 felonies. But in assessing the seriousness of this case, it is also relevant to ask who was injured by the former president's actions, a question that poses more of a puzzle than Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg suggests.
Bragg says Trump "violate[d] state and federal election laws" when he instructed attorney Michael Cohen to pay porn star Stormy Daniels $130,000 shortly before the 2016 presidential election. In exchange, Daniels agreed to refrain from talking to the press about her alleged 2006 affair with Trump.
Federal prosecutors viewed that payment as an illegal campaign contribution, and Cohen accepted that characterization in a 2018 guilty plea. But that plea hardly proves that the Justice Department's interpretation of the law was correct, since Cohen, who ultimately received a three-year sentence, was facing charges that could have sent him to prison for decades.
"The best interpretation of the law," former Federal Election Commission Chairman Bradley Smith wrote after Cohen's guilty plea, "is that it simply is not a campaign expense to pay blackmail for things that happened years before one's candidacy—and thus nothing Cohen (or, in this case, Trump, too) did is a campaign finance crime." At the very least, Smith said, "it is unclear whether paying blackmail to a mistress is 'for the purpose of influencing an election,' and so must be paid with campaign funds, or a 'personal use,' and so prohibited from being paid with campaign funds."
Even UCLA law professor Richard L. Hasen, who is skeptical of Bragg's case but thought there was enough evidence to federally prosecute Trump for accepting an illegal campaign contribution, concedes that proving he "knowingly and willfully" violated the law "would not have been a slam dunk." In any event, federal prosecutors conspicuously declined to try, even after Trump left office and Merrick Garland replaced William Barr as attorney general.
Assuming the Justice Department could have made that case but for some reason decided it was not worth the effort, the question remains: Who was victimized by the hush payment? Bragg thinks voters suffered, because they were deprived of "damaging information" that might have influenced their choice between Trump and Hillary Clinton.
Yet Trump had a long, widely familiar history of extramarital affairs. It seems unlikely that yet another one would have swayed voters who were otherwise inclined to support him.
Suppose Trump had used campaign money to directly pay off Daniels, as the Justice Department's theory in its case against Cohen suggests he should have, rather than using personal funds to reimburse Cohen. The result would have been the same: Daniels would have kept quiet for the time being, and any scandal would have been postponed until after the election.
To convert Trump's uncharged and unproven violation of federal law into a state crime, Bragg is relying on a New York statute that makes it a misdemeanor to falsify business records "with intent to defraud." Trump did that, Bragg says, by misrepresenting his reimbursement of Cohen as payment for legal services.
Trump allegedly committed that offense 34 times—once for each invoice, check, and ledger entry recording the payments. And because those records were aimed at concealing "another crime," prosecutors say, each qualifies as a distinct felony.
In common parlance, "intent to defraud" implies that Trump was trying to rip someone off. But according to New York appeals courts, it is enough to show that a defendant acted "for the purpose of frustrating the state's power" to "faithfully carry out its own law."
The victim, in other words, was the government, which had an interest in prosecuting debatable violations of state election law that hinge on debatable interpretations of federal law. It is hard to muster much indignation at that injury, let alone enough to support 34 felony charges.
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Orangeman Not bad?
I am beginning to wonder if Sullum maybe labeled something as legal expenses that weren't exactly legal expenses.
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Bragg could easily show that this isn't political. All he has to do is indict Hilary Clinton for doing exactly the same thing when she labeled her payments for the Steele Dossier as legal expenses.
Nobody is ever going to live long enough to see that happen.
Especially not the person that tries it.
*snerk*
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The death has been ruled a suicide."
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The statute of limitations has long passed on that. Actually, it's passed on Trump's "crime" also, except Bragg is using some creative legal theories to get around that.
Was Anyone Victimized by Trump's 34 Alleged Felonies?
Mike, Jeff, Sarc, Tony, Sqrlsy, Shrike, M4E, JFree, KAR and possibly Hank.
The poor dears have had to ignore people asking them what the charges actually are all week, and they can't just say "orangemanbad" like at Huffpo.
"...and possibly Hank..."
Pretty sure it's also hard to tell regarding the spastic asshole, but his key-board diarrhea is such that you'd have to ask someone who hasn't muted the shit-pile.
The same # of people victimized by Jacob Sullum's alleged rapes.
Avoiding libel isn't very Reason Comments, is it?
Fuck off and die; make your family happy.
Such an odd thing to post.
“I know I’ll score a few points with a lot of commenters here by saying something critical about a Reason staffer. In this case, I don’t have any issues with what Sullum wrote, but I’ll think up something I can say where I can work his name into it…”
Dit. Dit. Dit. Signal sent.
Wish I could say you're better than being a simp but I can't.
"Dit. Dit. Dit. Signal sent."
Trouble is afoot in the thread and comments policeman Mike Laursen, lights the
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Such an odd headline to post.
“I know I’ll score a few points with my anti-trump friends while paying lip service to the bullshit charges against him by turning the issue into a question of “who was really harmed here, maaaan” when everyone knows the number of people harmed were exactly 0 because the “alleged” charges are bullshit”.
Dit. Dit. Dit. Signal sent.
Mike: Received, loud and clear. Heading into the comments now to defend on technicalities!
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You’re not really this stupid.
Oh yeah; Trump is being victimized by it BIG TIME!!!
Don't threaten the [Na]tional So[zi]alists with De-Regulation! OMG...
A lot of crimes are "victimless" if you characterise them in this way, but at the moment they are still crimes.
Trump believes he only commits "perfect" crimes. We shall see...
Just tell me what your understanding of this criminal act is.
He pretends the USA is a free country.
He's simply a TDS-addled shit-pile.
Bragg thinks voters suffered, because they were deprived of "damaging information" that might have influenced their choice between Trump and Hillary Clinton.
But here’s the thing: NDAs are completely legal, even as a campaign expenditure. Candidates actually are allowed to pay people to stay quiet about damaging stories (even the government does this, though they shouldn’t). Bragg’a argument, then, makes no sense. He thinks the public is harmed by not knowing the information, but he can’t charge Trump with securing a completely legal agreement.
The same kind of half-baked theory would mean we could prosecute Twitter execs for banning the NYPost for sharing the laptop story, or basically any effort to hide any information from voters at all.
"Bragg thinks voters suffered, because they were deprived of “damaging information” that might have influenced their choice between Trump and Hillary Clinton."
Further, where does that leave the FBI regarding strong-arming Twitter to bury the Biden computer story?
Dershowitz provides a detailed breakdown of why Bragg’s case is utter bullshit….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGmFr-6dS3Q
He also talks about the other cases pending against Trump. In summary, they’re all bullshit.
Bragg "thinks" nothing,he is only following Soros' instructions.
If Bragg’s legal theory logical implication is that Trump’s true crime was trying to win an election running as something other than a Democrat.
And committing the nuisance of being Donald Trump!
"Bragg thinks voters suffered, because they were deprived of "damaging information" that might have influenced their choice between Trump and Hillary Clinton."
Then anyone who doesn't tell all they know about either candidate is somehow doing something bad?
Hillary? As in "Burn That Bitch! Trump That Bitch! Hillary for Prison! Lock Her UP! Lock Her UP!" That Hillary? http://bit.ly/3UAkOit
She’s an actual criminal, you senile old bitch.
I've come to the realization that Reason hates having to do articles like this, often AFTER the action has taken place. They tepidly remain quiet for months to years about federal abuses in one direction, often cheering on actions against certain individuals, and only after actions taken do they do a light tut tut against the actions. It almost seems they want the actions to happen, but maintain a veneer of libertarian thought.
Just like with J6. They had dozens of articles of how it was the worst thing ever. But only after convictions and abuse of the legal system has claimed victim do they push an article. Often dressed with how terrible the victims are, but MAYBE the feds went too far. They've ignore the abuses against J6 defendants, trump, cheered on Fox, and only after millions of dollars spent and rights violated do they do a half attempt at condemning the actions.
Look, they cheer one side when they take actions they like and jeer them when they take actions they don’t. They jeer the other side when they oppose the actions Reason cheers, jeer them when they don’t oppose actions Reason oppose, and cheer them after the fact. How could that possibly be anything other than even-handed, non-partisan journalism? Both sides get cheered and jeered equally.
Yeah, please tell me how the mostly peaceful rioters were abused.
One was murdered; is that enough?
You know that it was only a couple hundred people, out of tens of thousands, that actually damaged property or were in any way physical with police, right?
We know that there were only 15 girl-bullying Saudi Arabians hijacking the planes that flew into New York's World Trade Center too, right? So, why not Make Arabia Great Again?
Did that make sense in your head?
Are you saying that we should have conflated and punished all Saudi’s because of those 15 assholes?
As I said, we don't live in a libertarian world, and the bulk of the population isn't libertarian, so what you ignore and what you pay attention to is of paramount importance if you want to advance libertarianism.
Choose wisely.
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Convicting Trump doesn't matter. Just the prosecution that continues through 2024 will give Democrats plenty or opportunity to smear him in court with unfounded accusations. Expect more such prosecutions in Atlanta and various other Democrat-led locations.
Not sure this is going to work as the Ds hope. It depends on Trump's legal staff, but the comparisons to those who are not charged with diddly squat are going to be hard to refute.
So if this was a "campaign contribution" that means he should have paid it from his campaign fund. Does any New York attorney think this would have gone any differently if he *had* used campaign funds? If so, I have a nearby bridge to sell you.
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Alan Bragg has issued the indictment and the case will play itself out, so all the Monday morning quarterbacking is unlikely to change things.
What I hope will come out of this is that people look at the whole idea of campaign financing. I am bothered by the amount of money spend on campaigns. There is plenty of wailing and gnashing of teeth about "out of state" money on these comment boards. Trump's is the second case where payments to a mistress are consider campaign costs or donations. We need to think about campaign finance reform from top to bottom. Will that happen? I think it unlikely, we will likely just run more article on this particular case.
I would like to get Mr. Sullum's thoughts on a Congressional investigation of Alan Bragg's case. While Alan Bragg may have gone overboard is Jim Jordan going overboard to save Trump? I might suggest it shows the threat of this case.
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Bragg is saying he violated FEDERAL campaign law and trying to use that to justify STATE action.
PLEASE let's change the subject, only NOT to how MAGA Republicans have adopted the Democrat's favorite plank: the sacred "Compromise measure reclaiming fugitives from service or labor" such as Texas has reinstituted to conscript them godless bitches to labor in the War on Race Suicide under Article IV, Section 2, Clause 3. Allah bless Bush's Long Dong and Trump's Mutterkreuz Mom! In Texas, MAGA means: Make Abbott Governor Again! Repeal the 19th Amendment!
Bragg suing Jim Jordan is delicious.
I’m really hoping it horribly backfires on Grimace.
So then why did Trump go through all that effort to hide the payments? If he could have simply used campaign funds to pay her off legally why didn't he?
So basically, because he is a worthless troll he can do whatever he wants because his supporters will vote for him anyway. Got it. But meanwhile, AOC wore a borrowed dress and hearings must ensue!
a peek into Bizarro World is entertaining.
Speaking of worthless, look who showed up.
Fuck off and die, TDS-addled shit-pile.
You’re not going to beat shrike at being retarded. But nice try anyways.
Note: Bragg isn’t saying that the payment was illegal.
Listen, Trump said he could shoot someone and not lose votes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTACH1eVIaA
So Trump impersonator Baldwin went to the most libertarian State in the Union, NM, and shot his female producer dead---maybe to test the theory. The only votes Baldwin got were from the Grand Jury. Orange MAGA--Murder American Girls Again--might get the same kind of votes, who knows?
Do you really believe your senile ravings are clever? It’s just an argument for turning your morphine drip up past the lethal limit.
"Who was harmed" is a valid question but the article's assertion that Bragg thinks it was the voters is irrelevant. The actual crime that Bragg is alleging is falsification of business records. Voters cannot be harmed by that action. They might arguably be the 'victims' of the "other crime" that Bragg is trying to allege to bump the business records issue up from a misdemeanor to 34 felonies but they are irrelevant to the first question of who was the victim of the actual records falsification.
The standard there is GAAP (Generally Accepted Accounting Principles). And the requirement is not perfection. GAAP requires only that there be no "material misrepresentations". This one payment, whether it was correctly categorized or not (and there is a strong argument that it was right in the first place), is most definitely not a material misrepresentation in a corporate financial filing of an entity of this scale.
Bragg has harmed hundreds, if not thousands through his dereliction of duty in not prosecuting violent crimes in NYC. He deserves to die in prison for that.
Orange Hitler says "everyone in the courthouse was crying" when he was indicted. Sounds like a roomful of whining crybaby victims--or a facile lie if he wasn't under oath when he said it. Like Long Dong, who WAS, if memory serves, under oath when he swore "I deny" Anita Hill's testimony, it's hard to believe someone when you know you yourself would be lying in his place.
Well a short list of victims: Hillary Clinton Mellania Trump Stormy Daniels Michael Cohen
But since Reason has given up even the pretense of being anything but a mouthpiece the Koch family’s political interests, we should not be surprised. In their eyes it would be a travesty if a life long white collar criminal was finally sent to jail for any reason. I mean what sort of message would that send?
Translation: WAAAAH! We wuz robbed! Jail that bitch!! Not Orange Jesus!
I’m betting if Trump wins in 2024 that you finally have that fatal stroke we’ve been hoping for.
Derp da derp da tiddly terp.
Honest question - does anyone seriously believe that Alvin Bragg or other prosecutors wouldn't cry foul over that? If Trump did use campaign funds to pay off a mistress, I am 100% certain they would claim that's a personal expenditure that misuses campaign funds and he would still be prosecuted. So Trump is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.
A few years ago, another politician was prosecuted for paying off a mistress with campaign funds and reporting it as a campaign contribution. So this is quite literally a case of "damned if you do and damned if you don't." When Congress or a legislature passes a vague law, sociopathic prosecutors (most of them) will interpret it both ways, whichever one lets them put someone in jail. There's an Ayn Rand quote that explains this:
“There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.”
"The case against the former president is both morally dubious and legally shaky"
No TDS suffering Reason, it is pure partisan bullshit.
a. NDA's are not a crime
b. The statue of limitations has run out.
c. Federal, State and local prosecutors looked at it and found nothing, even Braggs before he got paid off.
d. It is also an attempt to take the eyes of the nation of off Biden's fuck-ups.
e. It was filed in the most woke liberal district in the nation that hates any conservative let alone Trump.
f. the indictment doesn't name and actual felony, only 34 charges are all the same thing, or one misdemeanor charge if you have a brain.
g. They managed to find a Trump hating, Biden loving judge.
h. The judge will make sure the jury is the same.
i. Change of venue which would only be fair, will be denied.
j. This is all a waste of money, it will go to a higher court and get thrown out. But it is the theater the Democrats want thinking it will lessens Trump's support. Which it is increasing greatly by it.
k. Don't worry they have brainstormed more spurious charges in other liberal hell holes.
I didn't vote for Trump in the last two elections. I voted Libertarian, but if Trump is the GOP candidate I will vote for him this time. As an independent I have always voted the person over the party, but I will never vote for another Democrat again my life.
The way it works, 34 misdemeanor charges, but changing them into felonies is a real stretch. I gather Trump ran out the clock on the misdemeanors, which it looks like he did commit.
No, he didn't.
You don't file those kinds of charges to begin with unless a) someone has been harmed by the acts themselves; b) there was an attempt to cover up some other ACTUAL crime, or c) it was an adjunct to an actual crime of campaign finance violation. Trump's acts were none of those, which is why Federal prosecutors who ALL hated Trump declined to prosecute.
Bragg was funded by Soros; he was obviously a low-level TDS-addled shit-pile who would take a flyer, and if the courts told him to stuff it, the Ds get a chance to claim Trump was indicted and Bragg can get tossed under the bus.
There are many more ignoramuses willing to give it a shot for Soros bucks.
Indeed. And now it’s come out that Alexander Soros, who runs his daddy’s ‘Open Society Foundaiton’ visited the White House 18 times already.
You clearly haven't paid any attention the police state Trump and his fellow MAGAts cheer when the jackboots are on someone else.
You are clearly:
Full.
Of.
Shit.
Or perhaps some parody account.
Weak troll brah
You’re confused. That’s democrats. You’re just too stupid to understand that.
Trump’s party platform calls for reversing legalization so twigs, seeds or a roach in the ashtray are State and federal felonies again. No looter prosecutor quibbles about the absence of battered and bloodied victims in those cases. Plant a roach in Hunter’s laptop and jump back lest prosecutors from BOTH halves of the Kleptocracy trample you in the stampede to file charges. Victims are the LAST thing looters are concerned about.
Well said, and welcome to the light!
Lifelong Libertarian, I never voted for a Libertarian candidate except in local elections. Most are spineless bookworm weasels, or closet Communists.
The world has congealed around the only two real political points of view. Liberty (a healthy prosperous win-win society), and totalitarianism (an infinite array of ideological dysfunction, abuse, despair, and poverty). Our Republicans may be poor champions of Classical Liberalism, but our Demunists are all-in on totalitarianism.
I do have one slight criticism of your reply, though. You've come to a site calling itself "Reason." Have you never read Orwell? What were you thinking?
"...Our Republicans may be poor champions of Classical Liberalism, but our Demunists are all-in on totalitarianism..."
If I can re-phrase: Vote for the person, not the label if your vote might possibly count.
Didn't vote for Trump. As a resident of CA, my vote is worthless, so Libertarians got the POTUS nod both times to add evidence that the two major parties have some competition. And Trump had little to recommend him as candidate.
But after Trump nominated Kavanaugh and then kept going, Katy bar the DOOR! Silent Cal was the last POTUS who did as well as Trump in preserving our freedoms.
Assuming he gets the nod for 2024, he will get my vote this time, worthless as it is, to tell the vote counters that there are those who find Harris/Biden/Newsom odious.
Eric Arthur Blair? Alferes Blair of the Partido Obrero de Unificación Marxista? Son of Opium Inspector Second Class Blair, self-named Orwell after the China opium vessel? What about him, oh Voter-for-Looters?
The case against Bragg, on the other hand, is getting stronger with every mistake he makes.
Translation: Red Team, Red Team our dicks are smaller...
All for Donnie Stand Up and Holler! MAGA! MAGA! MAGA!
Make your family proud and your dog happy: Fuck off and die.
But make your grave location public information so I can go there and take a dump, shit-pile.
No, next question.
Aside from political affiliations, can anybody explain how Trump's hush money is any different from that paid on Jonathan Edwards' behalf by Bunny Mellon?
'Just askin.
The bumptious bumpkin got caught by his fellow looters. What part of that is hard to grasp?
Edwards was prosecuted.
So we can assume Full of Shit?
And then he was acquitted.
"...critics across the political spectrum have noted the legal problems with transforming one hush payment into 34 felonies..."
No problem at all: He's guilty of repeatedly being Donald Trump.
Jacob, the WHOLE POINT of Orange Hitler was to restore Christian National Socialism, enslave and bully godless bitches, rob, shoot and kill hippies and brown people and put greedy non-gentiles behind barbed ware. Trump and ALL his caterwauling catamites and klanspeople worship fraud and the initiation of deadly force. It's What They Voted For and got--once. You should be happy for them. Coercion with victimless mischief as pretext is what they prayed for. If they suddenly don't like it they can eat sacrificial cyanide like Goebbels, Magda, Goering, Himmler and Real Hitler.
Tired troll is tired.
Yeah one person was victimized, and only by the allegations since there were no crimes, Trump himself. Think what this bullshit is costing him. Well I should add the NY taxpayers that are subsidizing this witch hunt too, but they are uncountable.
A lot of people starting up new threads just to say essentially the same stuff. Are you guys forgetting to log into your other sock accounts?
I don't think anyone understands.
They didn't when the judge in Arizona agreed that there were thousands of invalid ballots with no chain of custody that were counted, and that the ballot irregularities in size had to have been deliberate but that since malice could not be proven the results had to stand.
They didn't when one mane was sentenced for a meme while someone else , who had used the exact same meme, was celevrated.
The charge is garbage. And the trial will be garbage as well. Look for the prosecution to prove the defense's case. And then watch the jury come back with a guilty verdict.
Because the law is dead.
The left has been screaming that in everyone's faces since 2020.
When will we get the courage to do something about it?
This classless stuff is why folk pay less attention to these blogs.
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Maybe that's the point. Reason used to publish letters from actual individuals, but now invites masked illiterate turdposters sent over by the Klan, Qanon, Silver Shirts, Knights of the White Camelia and Band of Rednecks with Greene Teeth to smear MAGA excrement everywhere. If you had made a decision that stupid would you not be relieved if people averted their eyes and noses?
The trolls?