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Congress

Don't Let the House Hunter Biden Investigation Become a Russiagate-Style Search for Election Excuses

Plus: Lab-grown meat, the allure of raw milk, and more...

Elizabeth Nolan Brown | 1.12.2023 9:36 AM

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House GOP summons former Twitter execs to February hearing. Among the first orders of business in the new GOP-controlled House of Representatives is a probe related to President Joe Biden's son Hunter Biden. The House Oversight Committee, chaired by Kentucky Republican Rep. James Comer, is already summoning people to testify at a hearing scheduled for early February.

"This investigation is a top priority for House Republicans during the 118th Congress," said Comer in a statement. "The investigation will inform legislative solutions to protect Americans' First Amendment right to freedom of speech and press and prevent public officials and their family members from using public office to enrich themselves."

Republicans have long insisted that not only did Hunter use his father's name to secure foreign business deals for himself but that Joe Biden was in on the game. There is evidence for the former, and not for the latter. Regardless, the first people lawmakers might want to question are those intimately involved with Hunter Biden's business dealings, right?

Apparently not. First up, per a Politico report, are three former Twitter employees.

Comer has invited former Twitter Deputy General Counsel James Baker, former Global Head of Trust and Safety Yoel Roth, and former Chief Legal Officer Vijaya Gadde to the hearing to testify about Twitter's decision to temporarily block a New York Post story about Hunter Biden in 2020.

That decision was recently dissected at length in the Twitter Files, a series of reports based on internal documents that Twitter CEO Elon Musk has shared with a small group of journalists. The documents reveal Twitter executives engaged in ample deliberation and debate about how to handle the story, primed by warnings from the (Trump-era) Justice Department about the possibility of fake news being spread by foreign adversaries.

It's pretty clear that Twitter's decision to suppress the story—ultimately a wrong decision, albeit also a very short-lived one—was very much a product of people trying to avoid repeating the mistakes of 2016. Authorities were on high alert—perhaps to the point of paranoia—about foreign propaganda that might influence the 2020 electorate. And tech companies, having just lived through years of being excoriated for letting foreign propaganda spread in 2016, were extra sensitive to allegations that they might let it happen again.

But Republicans seem to desperately want there to be more to this story. For it to serve as a smoking gun against Joe Biden, tech companies, or both. For it to be a tidy explanation as to why Biden won in 2020.

The whole thing echoes Democratic antics with regard to Russian meddling in the 2016 election. For years following that election, Democrats were obsessed with the idea that Russians had somehow cost Hillary Clinton the election and thrown it to Donald Trump.

We all remember the seemingly endless investigations, hearings, broadcasts, and reports on whether Trump himself was involved, the role social media company algorithms played, and whether tech companies were to blame. Even after it became clear that the whole business was overblown, Democrats—in Congress, on TV, and in print media—refused to let go of narratives about Trumpian collusion and negligent tech execs. It was, apparently, too good for firing up the base. For assuring supporters and viewers that their side was righteous—and wronged—and the other side was a bunch of treasonous crooks.

I fear Republicans are now headed down the same path. Here we are more than two years out from the 2020 election, and they're calling a congressional hearing over the fact that a private company suppressed a negative news story about the Biden family for 24 hours.

Twitter made the wrong call with the story, yes. But it did so temporarily, with much deliberation, influenced by authorities in the Trump administration, and to the effect that the Hunter Biden story got even more attention. The idea that Joe Biden would have lost the election had this not happened is crazy. And the idea that Biden himself helped cover it up because he's hiding something about his own business dealings lacks any evidence.

But these narratives are also very beneficial to Biden's enemies. And Republicans seem determined to wring every last bit of political capital possible out of them.

Once again we're reminded that the people in power—no matter which side that is—are more focused on making excuses for their own shortcomings and slinging mud at the other side than actually doing the hard work of becoming a faction more Americans can get behind.


FREE MINDS

"What do you think about meat grown in a lab? Would you eat it? Will your grandchildren?" asks Conor Friedersdorf at The Atlantic. Friedersdorf is responding to a Spiegel International article titled "Can Stem Cell Meat Save the Planet?"

The Spiegel International article hones in on Singapore, where lab-grown meat is already on the menu:

Just imagine for a moment that you could save the world with chicken nuggets. All you would have to do is just eat them. Your teeth would sink into real meat, yet no animal would have lost its life for your meal. It will have been grown in the laboratory from a single chicken cell. Imagine that there would suddenly be enough meat from the laboratory to feed everybody in the world. Hunger would be a thing of the past. The land now used to grow corn for animal feed could be repurposed, perhaps even for a forest that could draw CO2 out of our atmosphere. Industrial livestock farming would no longer be needed.

To be sure, solutions that sound so simple should be approached with caution. But there is a place where the utopia described above isn't as far away as it might sound. Where such laboratory chicken can be tasted and where the nuggets are being served up on real plates. That place is Singapore.

Singapore is the first and, thus far, the only country in the world where meat grown in laboratories can be marketed to and eaten by consumers. The government is hopeful that the country can become home to the technologies behind the food of the future. It is likely, after all, to become an extremely profitable industry, with investors around the world already injecting billions of dollars into the new food sector. Alternative sources of protein, including lab-grown meat, currently make up 2 percent of the global meat market. By 2035, that share is expected to be five times as high. And now that food prices have skyrocketed due to the pandemic and the Russian invasion of Ukraine, adding to the hunger and environmental crises already afflicting the world, some experts believe that meat grown from stem cells could develop into a technological revolution.

Read the whole thing here.


FREE MARKETS

Raw milk renegades. The Free Press explores the allure of raw milk, which is still illegal to sell (for human consumption, at least) in many states:

For @modernTman and his followers, sourcing their own meat and raw milk—like investing their money in Bitcoin to escape the clutches of traditional banks—was about wresting back control they believed the government had taken away….

Farmers, hippies, health nuts, and crunchy cons—the conservative writer Rod Dreher's term for GOP voters who also wear Birkenstocks and shop at farmer's markets—have been drinking raw milk for decades. But the past few years have seen a dramatic uptick in raw-milk consumption. "The appeal of raw milk is that it's an unprocessed and natural food," says David Gumpert, who blogs about politics and food, and wrote The Raw Milk Revolution. "Milk is the first nurturing food that mammals have, including humans, so it has a lot of symbolism in that way."

And for new consumers, raw milk is a symbol. Most states don't allow it to be sold in stores—just twelve do. But most also have loopholes for the determined and savvy, and more states are giving it the legal go ahead. The Missouri state legislature has two bills on the docket of its coming session that would legalize retail sales of raw milk. A similar law in Georgia will go into effect this summer. But for now, to drink (and, especially, to produce) raw milk is a way of breaking with convention and raging against the machine—the United States Department of Agriculture, the Centers for Disease Control, the FDA, doctors, PhDs, state regulators, and Big Dairy—all while engaging in caveman-inspired biohacking.

Raw milkers want control over their lives, and that includes their food—where it comes from, who farms it, how it gets to them.

More here.

In other milk news:

????NEW TODAY???? (and just in time for #NationalMilkDay): a @CatoInstitute briefing paper from @GabAboutTrade, @AlfredCObregon, & me on the US infant formula shortage and its important policy lessons:

"Formula for a Crisis" https://t.co/OsrIgzVMYv /1 pic.twitter.com/57U2lWTeCs

— Scott Lincicome (@scottlincicome) January 11, 2023


QUICK HITS

• What went wrong with the Federal Aviation Administration's Notice to Air Mission system yesterday?

• The Pentagon has officially dropped its COVID-19 mandate for U.S. troops.

• The Consumer Product Safety Commission chair says the agency has no intention of banning gas stoves, despite rumors to the contrary:

BREAKING: The chair of the Consumer Product Safety Commission says the agency has no plans to ban gas stoves after commissioner Richard Trumka's remarks ignited a political firestorm. pic.twitter.com/t18eRDlSdg

— Ari Natter (@AriNatter) January 11, 2023

• Jesse Singal looks at vaccine hysteria and sports deaths.

• Reason's Damon Root explains what's at stake in a case involving state sovereignty and the status of Puerto Rico.

• D.C. is planning to hang a bunch of posters that say "Thou Shalt Not Kill."

• "Aides to President Joe Biden have discovered at least one additional batch of classified documents in a location separate from the Washington office he used after leaving the Obama administration, according to a person familiar with the matter," reports NBC News.

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  1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

    It’s about hunter’s penis!

    1. Chumby   2 years ago

      Erections matter

      1. Quicktown Brix   2 years ago

        Erection fraud?

      2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        Erections have consequences!

        1. Chumby   2 years ago

          Stuffing the ballot box is a euphemism.

          1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

            This story is getting flaccid.

            1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

              Things better improve, or someone is going to be sacked.

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          2. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

            Please leave children's drag queen reading hour out of this. Won't someone think of the children?!?!!?

          3. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

            Gives a whole new meaning to "Vote Early, Vote Often!"

            1. Chumby   2 years ago

              Only from large donors

        2. Pear Satirical   2 years ago

          Only if they last for more than 4 hours.

          1. Chumby   2 years ago

            Might require a runoff

            1. Utkonos   2 years ago

              This thread has gone to seed. Let’s not get cocky with the speculations!

              1. Pear Satirical   2 years ago

                We definitely don't want to go off half cocked.

                1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

                  Come on, now.

                  1. Utkonos   2 years ago

                    Leave Eileen out of this!

                  2. Pear Satirical   2 years ago

                    Who do you think I am, Jeffery Toobin?

                    1. Chumby   2 years ago

                      When Toobin had his HR meeting, he was offered counsel to represent him. Toobin declined saying, “I’ll handle it myself.”

                    2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

                      Tube-steaking with Toobin?

    2. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

      This whole thing has always been 100% about dick pics.

      It's business as usual for dozens of intel experts to comment on dick pics.

      I am a principled libertarian and not at all a Democrat talking point regurgitator.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        WTF was it about then?

        The NY Times published an article yesterday (I commented in the evening) that demolished the notion that Joe Biden was paid by Hunter's failed and incomplete business deals.

        As I said - nice try. You went with the BENGHAZI !!! scaremongering tactic and it is just as empty and hollow as the that fake scandal was.

        Attack Joe on his overspending, his age, his dumbass student loan plan, etc.

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          Cope harder.

        2. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

          Lol. No they didn’t. The comingling of bank accounts is known from emails alone. Joe was using hunters account to pay his bills. Then there is still no knowledge of close to 5 million generated through the S Corp.

          Keep defending Biden while claiming you don't.

          1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   2 years ago

            Hunter has directly stated that "Pops" demands 50% of everything he brings it

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

              And some kind of prima nocta for hair sniffing.

          2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

            Bullshit.

            Show me a Wall St Journal, Bloomberg, or NY Times article that backs you up on the S Corp claim.

            No wingnut.com, Bratfart, ZeroHead, or other liar site accepted.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

              "IF LEGACY MEDIA DOESN'T TALK ABOUT IT, IT NEVER HAPPENED!"

            2. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

              You mean the articles that directly compare his stated income vs how much was pushed out of the s corp? The ones using government documents that were in the articles?

              Wsj articles like this?

              https://www.wsj.com/articles/now-corruption-story-is-about-joe-not-hunter-11603392288

              1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                Bobulinski has been discredited and contradicted by the other inside player:

                To try to make the case that the elder Mr. Biden played a role in his son’s dealings with Mr. Ye, Republicans point to statements by Tony Bobulinski, an associate who has claimed that Hunter’s father had at least some knowledge of the possible venture with CEFC. They also cite messages in which another participant in the negotiations, James Gilliar, floated the possibility that a 10 percent stake in their prospective company could be set aside for the “big guy.” ………………… Mr. Gilliar later said he was unaware of any involvement in the CEFC discussions by Hunter’s father at any time. Family members and other participants say the elder Mr. Biden never met with Mr. Ye or other company executives.

                https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/11/us/politics/hunter-biden-investigations.html

                Too bad, Peanuts. You gave it the old Benghazi try.

                1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

                  Bobulinski’s credibility was not helped by his showing up as Trump’s front row guest at a Presidential debate.

                  1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

                    Cite?

                  2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                    Why does that speak to credibility at all? Facts don't change because they attend an event.

                2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  No he has not been. NYT making bald assertions does not disprove anything.

                  You are defending Biden which you claim not to do.

                  1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                    NYT even admits to all the fucking evidence but then claims it is complex as a defense.

                3. Heresolong   2 years ago

                  The leftist playbook:

                  1. The scandal doesn't exist, you are a conspiracy theorist
                  2. There's no evidence of the scandal being about "insert D politician"
                  3. The guy that said that has been totally discredited
                  4. Why are you still even talking about this it was so long ago, the country has more important matters that need to be addressed.

                  Rinse, repeat

                  Reason's variation: The Hunter Biden story, like Russiagate. Never mind that one is backed up by actual evidence like laptops and testimony, the other was fabricated out of whole cloth. But the same. For reasons.

                  And then on gas stoves, "despite rumors to the contrary". It isn't a rumor when the head of the CSPC says "we are looking into banning gas stoves" on multiple occasions, even when pressed on the matter. Jesus, Reason. Speaking of credibility.

            3. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

              Okay:

              Why the Biden Laptop Matters Now

              and

              The Hunter Biden Laptop Is Real

              1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                Hunter Biden’s Laptop and America’s Crisis of Accountability

                and

                Hunter Biden’s Laptop Is Finally News Fit to Print

                1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                  Zuckerberg and Hunter Biden’s Laptop

                  and

                  Apologies for Hunter Biden’s Laptop

                  1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                    Hunter Biden and News Suppression

                    and

                    The Media Discovers Hunter Biden's Laptop

                    1. Ajsloss   2 years ago (edited)

                      Stop! Stop! He’s already dead.

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcZzlPGnKdU

                    2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      Fuck that. He needs to be dead, buried, and a tombstone planted so he can't rise from the grave.

                    3. Derp-o-Matic 6000   2 years ago

                      ButtPlug has disappeared but don't worry. After being resoundingly demonstrated to be utterly wrong, he'll be back tomorrow to repeat the same dumb shit, pretending none of the exchange above ever happened

            4. JoeB   2 years ago

              Who are you, Jeff Zucker?

        3. Derp-o-Matic 6000   2 years ago

          Hunter has said unequivocally in dozens of places that Joe was paid for the deals, you lying pedo. Go turn yourself in.

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

            This is the type obvious lie that makes you a conservative hack.

            You're like Fat Rush Limbaugh (King of the Rednecks). You lie without shame.

            Oh, and is that fuckface still dead?

            1. Chumby   2 years ago

              Chris Hansen would like to have a word with you.

            2. Derp-o-Matic 6000   2 years ago

              https://nypost.com/2022/04/09/hunter-biden-frequently-covered-family-expenses-texts-reveal/amp/

              It's not kiddie porn so i doubt you'll actually click, but there you go.

              1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                Not NYT, doesn't count!!

              2. Overt   2 years ago

                This is why you simply must shun SPB. You all have provided that kiddy-porn trafficking creep with at least circumstantial evidence that Hunter and Joe were mixing funds, which were gathered from likely conflicts of interest.

                And next week he will be back here repeating that this is just about dick picks.

                Stop validating this pervert. He thinks he can get away with posting kiddy porn here- your facts are small change in comparison.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                  The only problem is, if shunned, he doesn't exactly go away. The demonstration is not for SPB2, who is beyond any help and should just be treated as a rabid raccoon, it is for those who come along and read his screeds. Without a counter, they may assume he knows what he's talking about (which, as we all know, he doesn't - he knows jack shit, and jack just left town).

                  1. JoyceRenner   2 years ago (edited)

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                  2. Ted AKA Teddy Salad, CIA/US Ballet Force   2 years ago

                    Yes, it’s important to point out that he is a lying Marxist, and a proven pedophile every time he slithers in here.

                  3. Overt   2 years ago

                    The appropriate thing to do is post boilerplate such as below, and refer to that pervert in the third person. Responding to him is the reason he continues to show up here. He thrives on you people engaging conversing with him.

                    A few years back SPB posted kiddy porn to this site, and his initial handle was banned. The link below details all the evidence surrounding that ban. A decent person would honor that ban and stay away from Reason. Instead SPB keeps showing up, acting as if all people should just be ok with a kiddy-porn-posting asshole hanging around. Since I cannot get him to stay away, the only thing I can do is post this boilerplate, and link to the evidence of his wrongdoing.

                    https://reason.com/2022/08/06/biden-comforts-the-comfortable/?comments=true#comment-9635836

                  4. perlmonger   2 years ago

                    Which is a shame, since I hear they're banning other people around here. But not that shithead.

            3. Sevo   2 years ago

              Don't forget, trud lies.

              1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

                "Trud lies?" Well, at least we know it's not copy-pasta. 😉

                1. Utkonos   2 years ago

                  Don’t labor the point. (I don’t get to do many Russian-language puns around here, couldn’t resist.)

                  1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

                    Thank you! I like my humor with new learning ã la Old School Dennis Miller. I didn't know Trud even existed. Much obliged.

                    It kinda reminds me of the old Cold War slogan among Anti-Soviet dissenters:

                    "There is no news in Provda and no truth in Tass."

                    🙂

                    1. Utkonos   2 years ago (edited)

                      Izvestia for the latter, actually

            4. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              You're still in there trying to #DefendBidenAtAllCosts. Hint, it's not gonna work. Joe's toast.

        4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          Still retarded.

        5. Sevo   2 years ago

          turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

      2. Chumby   2 years ago

        Has been this way since the Johnson administration. A task force assigned to this has only the best and most straight members to bring this to a head.

        1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   2 years ago

          Oh now don't go talking about johnsons in front of ButtPlug. He'll get too excited

          1. Chumby   2 years ago

            To him, a PB&J sandwich means Palin’s Buttplug & Juveniles.

            1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

              Now I'm gonna have to avoid Uncrustables in the freezer section or risk getting shot by Qanon.

        2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          Who gets to be a member on the committee? Are they chosen from the staff?

    3. Nardz   2 years ago

      The Hunter Biden allegations would have to be completely fictional, knowingly fabricated by the people investigating, to be anything like the Russian collusion story.
      We know for a fact that this is not the case.
      Reason is, as usual, proving itself the enemy of the people.

      1. Anomalous   2 years ago

        ENB can't help herself. She just has to defend the Bidens no matter what.

        1. Chumby   2 years ago

          ENBlematic of progressive media types.

          1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago (edited)

            What would an ENB ENBlem look like? A coat of arms with a pot leaf, an “Immigrant Crossing" Sign, and a peach and hot dog together?
            ????

            1. Chumby   2 years ago

              Moderately taxed marijuana, a coathanger and a sex workers union membership card

            2. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

              A dollar sign on an open pussy.

            3. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

              Hmm. Veeery creative!

              With a diet of pot brownies and burritos and flanked by crossed dildos, a "Little Brown Eyeball" could encompass Reason Magazine's favorite triptych.

              And what a triptych it is! 🙂

              Robin Hood Daffy (1958) - trip it song
              https://youtu.be/OGmvxbQVbWw

        2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          Long TDS.

        3. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

          Where did she defend the Bidens?

          1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

            LOL . So dense.

          2. JesseAz   2 years ago

            When she just claimed no evidence in her screed. There is evidence. When she calls for no investigation.

          3. Chumby   2 years ago

            Why try to HO2 down her defending the Bidens?

            1. Pear Satirical   2 years ago

              Did you bring that up because of my comment the other day?

              1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                Mike fought in a thread claiming water is h02 not h20 then denied he had done that for weeks.

                1. Pear Satirical   2 years ago

                  I know, but in the thread the other day about banning gas stoves I joked about banning dihydrogen monoxide, which Chumby responded to. Was wondering if that was why he brought that incident up in this tread.

              2. Chumby   2 years ago

                That was a good refresher. It is fun to remind white Mike how stupid he/she is.

        4. Ted AKA Teddy Salad, CIA/US Ballet Force   2 years ago

          And she despises all of us.

    4. Winnie SC   2 years ago

      The "investigation" is of course a sham.

      We all know that laws, rules, standards simply DO NOT APPLY to democrats.

  2. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    It's pretty clear that Twitter's decision to suppress the story—ultimately a wrong decision, albeit also a very short-lived one—was very much a product of people trying to avoid repeating the mistakes of 2016.

    The mistake of accurately reporting on Hillary's emails? The mistake of not banning the Russian 'propoganda' that didn't influence the election?

    What 'mistake'?

    1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

      Seriously, how casual she is about it, utterly so convinced of her narrative that she just waves generally at something and assumes people know exactly what she means, and that everyone would agree it's a problem.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        To be fair, all her online and cocktail party "friends" know what she means.

        1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

          Yup. That's the problem. Completely insulated from not only most of America, but also her direct audience.

        2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago (edited)

          The “cocktail party” anti-Reason talking point is weak stuff. Yesterday, Diane/Paul threw it at Tuccille, who lives in rural Arizona. And now it’s being thrown at ENB, who lives in friggin’ Cincinnati, Ohio.

          Anyone who listens to the Roundtable podcast also knows that the two staffers who do live in DC haven’t been invited to any parties other than hanging out with each other, at least since COVID hit.

          1. Chumby   2 years ago

            Cite?

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago (edited)

              What White Mike danced around here was that Brown and her family were actually living in DC prior to COVID, and specifically moved to Cincinnati in response to the pandemic and for family support with her baby. It didn’t have anything to do with them supposedly loving the Midwest so much.

              I’m not on the ENB hate-train like a lot of other commenters here, but Mike’s continued simping for her is even more pathetic than his simping for BLM during the Floyd riots.

              1. Chumby   2 years ago

                Political cocktail parties exist outside of DC

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

                  On mastadon?

                  1. Super Scary   2 years ago

                    "On mastadon?"

                    If they were there, no one would know.

                    1. Chumby   2 years ago

                      Received an invite for a Mastadon cocktail party. I reached and asked what time I should attend. They asked me when could I make it.

          2. JoeB   2 years ago

            Rural AZ is chock full of former Californians who brought their dipshit politics with them.

        3. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

          Someone needs to throw a Red Cocktail party and invite all the press.

          1. perlmonger   2 years ago

            I'll tune up the woodchippers.

        4. perlmonger   2 years ago

          All her cocksucker friends? From being a whore, one presumes.

    2. Nardz   2 years ago

      Talking points went out, and Reason is as obedient as ever

      https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1613501573564440580?t=vZ-2nqj-fdZLgH2w3Ksgzw&s=19

      I suspect the post-2016 freakout about social media “misinformation” was driven by displaced guilt over the way the country’s legacy media but-her-emails’d us into darkness.

      The most serious Russian influence on the 2016 race was itself entirely mediated by mainstream news organization choosing of their own free will to get very heavy coverage to often trivial stories based on John Podssta’s hacked emails.

      [Link]

      1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

        Russian ads and bots on social media invalidate 2016.

        FBI/CIA determining what can go out on social media in 2020 - crickets.

        1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

          The "fourth estate" has become an enemy of the people.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago (edited)

            Don’t you know the in-thing in the 21st century is private-public partnership? Why can’t “media” get in on that?

            Of course some might say that PPP is fascism-light.

            1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

              Huh? PPP drips from the Twentieth Century.

        2. JoeB   2 years ago (edited)

          Didn’t Reason publish an article noting that foreign interference was not a significant influence on 2016 results? Like, yesterday? Besides, which influential anti -Democrat narrative in 2016 was actually false? We didn’t need Russian bots to tell us Hillary was a crook. CNN actually did provide Hillary with debate questions. You’re a desperate and pathetic liar, Gore.

      2. Overt   2 years ago

        "choosing of their own free will to get very heavy coverage to often trivial stories based on John Podssta’s hacked emails."

        This shows just how skewed these people's reality is.

        It should be a fucking scandal that the Democratic party was conspiring with journalists and other 3rd parties to hand the nomination to one person. That is a problem of epic proportions.

        But to Yglesias, the scandal is that the public found out through a hack.

        1. JasonAZ   2 years ago

          "But to Yglesias, the scandal is that the public found out through a hack."

          This isn't skewed reality, it's skewed morality. Yglesias and ENB know they're wrong. They don't care. They're supporting the narrative for their comrades at all cost.

          In their world, the ends justify the means. Especially if it stops mean tweets and icky Republicans.

          1. MasterThief   2 years ago

            I really do question if ENB is so insulated in a world of left wing narratives that she legitimately doesn't know that what she says is blatantly false. She's either a complete idiot who parrots left wing hacks without thinking or is herself an unprincipled left wing hack

            1. Stuck in California   2 years ago

              >She’s either a complete idiot who parrots left wing hacks without thinking or is herself an unprincipled left wing hack

              ¿Porque no los dos?

          2. perlmonger   2 years ago

            They've literally used the phrase "By Any Means Necessary" so I don't know why anyone would be surprised that they use underhanded and illegal bullshit means.

    3. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

      The mistake of losing the election.

  3. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

    D.C. is planning to hang a bunch of posters that say "Thou Shalt Not Kill."

    Wonder how they feel about that at the department of defense.

    1. Moonrocks   2 years ago

      In front of abortion clinics?

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        Doesn't count if you're under a certain size.

      2. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

        Maybe the Canadian embassy.

    2. Rich   2 years ago

      Oh, they're hanging posters that say "Thou Shalt Break Things."

      1. mad.casual   2 years ago

        Like the one's they hung at Facebook?

    3. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

      Maybe they should hand those to the capitol police with a picture of Ashley Babbitt.

      1. MasterThief   2 years ago

        After her mom was arrested for jaywalking. I heard an interesting new side of the story on Timcast the other day. From the guest's point of view (on the ground at the capitol) Babbitt was trying to discourage the breach and she was shot under even less justifiable circumstances than those reported. I haven't seen the video, so have no clue what side is closer to the evidence.

    4. Longtobefree   2 years ago

      Um, any concerns about all that church and state stuff?

      1. mad.casual   2 years ago

        No, but use of the pronoun 'thou' without asking first is sus.

        1. Utkonos   2 years ago

          Well it is the familiar/singular, so yeah. (One doesn’t wish to be overly familiar)

  4. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Poor illegal immigrants looking for a better life are given 400 dollar a night rooms free of charge at The Row in NYC. Let's check in.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/migrants-drinking-all-day-having-sex-in-stairs-taxpayer-funded-new-york-hotels-whistleblower

    Drugs, party, trash, domestic assault, attacking hotel staff...

    1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

      Funny how something has no value to people who didn't pay for it. Making things "free" immediately devalues them.

    2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Sex in the stairs is a step too far.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        How about love in an elevator?

        1. Eeyore   2 years ago

          Water play in the elevator is where I draw the line. Just don't.

          1. Chumby   2 years ago

            You’d prefer that things don’t escalate on the elevator?

            1. Utkonos   2 years ago

              I find it quite uplifting.

              1. Utkonos   2 years ago

                No one did a “shaft” pun?

            2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

              No button-pushing. Just let things take their course, up and down. 😉

      2. Ska   2 years ago

        Keep that shit in school where it belongs.

      3. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

        I thought that would get a riser out of you.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Just watch for the landing.

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      As long as that shit does not happen in Martha's Vineyard.

      1. Utkonos   2 years ago

        Getting a pizza ass?

        1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago (edited)

          For me, as long as it’s Four Meat and/or Marg-Her-Rita. (Pan Pizza style, of course.)
          😉

          No Cheese Pizza and no Anchovies.

    4. TrickyVic (old school)   2 years ago

      ""Drugs, party, trash, domestic assault, attacking hotel staff…""

      So they are fitting in with other NYers?

    5. Pear Satirical   2 years ago

      How is that number factored into the "migrants use welfare less than the general population" calculation? I mean, it technically isn't welfare so is it not included in the count?

  5. Chumby   2 years ago

    THIS IS CNN

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Cunt News Network

      1. perlmonger   2 years ago

        Did they hire ENB for the catering staff?

  6. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    Republicans have long insisted that not only did Hunter use his father's name to secure foreign business deals for himself but that Joe Biden was in on the game. There is evidence for the former, and not for the latter.

    BUT WHAT ABOUT THE 10% BAR TAB ???

    HUH? HUH?

    Great work ENB. Don't let the Trump Cult bring you down.

    1. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

      Sandra (OBL) will be along shortly to demolish your post. Again. For the umpteenth time.

      1. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

        Is there a point anymore?

        He still tries to pretend the Biden economy is fantastic (and only wingnut.com disagrees) despite mainstream sites like Reuters acknowledging 2022 wasn't so hot.

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

          2022 sucked.

          But it beat the hell out of 2020.

          1. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

            "But it beat the hell out of 2020."

            Wooooooooooo! Thanks Biden! Things aren't quite as dismal now as they were in early / mid 2020, when shit got real with covid, nobody knew when a vaccine would arrive, and the experts told us to stay home as much as possible!

            #DefendBidenAtAllCosts

            1. Nardz   2 years ago (edited)

              “when shit got real with covid”

              No, shit got real with the covid psyop. Accuracy is important. Covid was never a threat.
              It was almost nothing but lies.

              1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

                Be accurate. COVID was a threat to older seniors. I think some guy in NY proved that.

                1. Nardz   2 years ago (edited)

                  It was no more a threat than the flu (the effects of which were labeled as covid). 2020 flu season would not have been extraordinary if people weren’t deliberately killed to juice the “covid” numbers. We are dealing with monsters. Yall need to start getting that through your heads.

                  1. JoeB   2 years ago

                    The popular inpatient COVID protocol did seem tailor-made to kill. Seriously.

                2. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

                  One of the reasons I never thought COVID was a threat was because the early reporting out of Italy (remember Italy and COVID?) was that the average age at death from COVID was the same as the average age at death period.

                  Then there was that cruise ship; remember that? I don't remember the exact numbers, but it was packed to the gills with old folks for a week and still had less than 1% death rate.

                  1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

                    Yeah, and the data coming out of New York showed that the vast majority of deaths were older people who were already pretty unhealthy to begin with, and may have gotten knocked out by a basic flu bug or pneumonia within the next couple of years anyway.

                  2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                    It was the cruise ship (Diamond Princess) that tipped me off that Covid wasn't exactly all that bad or dangerous.

                    1. BYODB   2 years ago

                      Precisely. It was known after that point, but it was ignored.

                      Close quarters isolated test case, that might as well have been gifted by the gods, showed it was indeed deadly but not to an 'unprecedented' extent. Merely novel, nothing a healthy immune system couldn't fight off like numerous other COVID variants.

            2. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

              Don't leave out his allies intentionally shutting down the economy and murdering old people.

              1. Nardz   2 years ago

                Indeed

          2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

            "But it beat the hell out of 2020."

            "TRUMP CREATED COVID AND LOCKDOWN The ECONOMY!!!"

            1. JesseAz   2 years ago

              Yet 2020 had less inflation and less stock market loss. Odd shrike didn't mention that.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                Why would he? His apparent job here is summed up as follows: "Dems Good; GOP Bad", and he has to #DefendBidenAtAllCosts.

    2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      PENIS!

    3. Chumby   2 years ago

      I remember you from the five dollar footlong tv ads.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Lol.

    4. damikesc   2 years ago

      I love that "Person involved in the email chain who knows the information" is not proof to ENB.

      I don't expect more out of SPB, who scarcely qualifies as human.

      1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        Person involved in the email chain. Referring you to a comment a bit up the page:

        https://reason.com/2023/01/12/dont-let-the-house-hunter-biden-investigation-become-a-russiagate-style-search-for-election-excuses/?comments=true#comment-9874337

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Person pushing bald assertions from the NYT? You think that is valid in anyway?

          1. Ted AKA Teddy Salad, CIA/US Ballet Force   2 years ago

            Hilarious. His cite is a Kiddie Raper comment linking the NYT. As if the NYT has any credibility left.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              LOL! Mike is beyond help.

    5. Sevo   2 years ago

      turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a TDS-addled pile of shit, a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

  7. Moonrocks   2 years ago

    Don't Let the House Hunter Biden Investigation Become a Russiagate-Style Search for Election Excuses

    So that's why the Editors were suddenly allowed to acknowledge that the Russia collusion hoax was a hoax.

    1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

      They also need to move on to the next batshit thing. This is now 'old news'.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        So long as media learned their lessons, right?

  8. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    House GOP summons former Twitter execs to February hearing.

    Ooo, cameras!

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      But can they get Hollywood production crews?

  9. JesseAz   2 years ago

    People are starting to have questions about UPenn and the Chinese donations that doubled after they opened up Biden's office there. An investigation into universities abd foreign donations, mostly China, was also recently shut down by Garland. I'm sure that was done for reasons.

    https://justthenews.com/accountability/political-ethics/university-housed-biden-think-tank-pressed-doj-end-fbi-program

    1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

      You mean the office where they found classified documents?

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        You mean the office where accidents happen so no big deal?

  10. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    Luckily we have govt enforced consensus to solve this problem.

    Science Is Becoming “Less Disruptive”
    https://www.technologynetworks.com/tn/news/science-is-becoming-less-disruptive-368887

    Tracking how the CD index changes over time, the researchers conclude that papers and patents are now less likely to be disruptive and are more likely to be consolidating. Disruptiveness has declined by 91.9% for the social sciences to 100% for the physical sciences. For patents, disruptiveness decline rates between 1980 and 2010 range from 78.7% for computers and communications to 91.5% for drugs and medical. Across both papers and patents, the rates of decline are greatest in the earlier decades and appear to begin to stabilize between 2000–2005.

    1. damikesc   2 years ago

      Wow, nothing says science like total "non-disruptiveness".

      I bet total consensus has been behind all major scientific breakthroughs.

      Progressivism is worse than a cancer.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        Everyone knew the light bulb would work.

  11. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

    ENB, this is horseshit. You're telling Readership that Hunter's business relationships with Ukranian, Chinese and Russian companies that paid millions to him, Jim Biden and a mysterious 'Big Guy' have had no bearing on POTUS Biden whatsoever?

    AYFKM?

    There is a valid legislative purpose in subpoenaing the reports. Clearly, legislation is needed to address new forms of influence peddling.

    Just remember, the shoe is on the other foot now. Don't bitch.

    1. Chumby   2 years ago

      She is the libertarian (tm). Trust her narrative.

      1. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

        Libertine would be a much more believable description of ENB. Others might say she needs to get her head out of her ass.

        1. Ted AKA Teddy Salad, CIA/US Ballet Force   2 years ago

          I think she would be enthusiastic for a Soviet Union style regime. As long as they lightened up on gays, whores, drug use, let people lie around collecting welfare, and guaranteed unrestricted abortion and child mutilation.

        2. perlmonger   2 years ago

          How is there room for her head with all the other things she puts up there?

    2. Moonrocks   2 years ago

      Come on, Trump's Russia Collusion wasn't a big deal now, so Hunter Biden's laptop shouldn't be a big deal, either.

  12. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    What do you think about meat grown in a lab? Would you eat it? Will your grandchildren?

    Only if it's mandated in order to participate in society.

    1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

      I will only eat lab grown bug meat.

      1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   2 years ago

        We have to protect the bugs, no matter the cost to humans

    2. Public Entelectual   2 years ago

      Persons caught serving Frankenfurters to children should be pasteurized

    3. Syd Henderson   2 years ago

      I'd give the frankenmeat a try if it works out without problems in Singapore.

      1. Chupacabra   2 years ago

        I'll eat lab-grown meat once they start serving it at climate change conferences.

        1. perlmonger   2 years ago

          Why not just eat the climate religionists?

    4. Anomalous   2 years ago

      If they can grow a well-marbled tomahawk steak in a lab, I'll consider it.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        At two or three times the cost?

        1. JohannesDinkle   2 years ago

          If we are forced to, as with electric cars, what matter the cost?

    5. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      To be sure, solutions that sound so simple should be approached with caution. But there is a place where the utopia described above isn't as far away as it might sound. Where such laboratory chicken can be tasted and where the nuggets are being served up on real plates. That place is Singapore.

      Great! The only place on Earth with Vat-Meat is the very place you'll get your ass caned for chewing bubble gum!

      1. The Margrave of Azilia   2 years ago

        There's a Rowdy Roddy Piper (sp?) joke in there somewhere.

        1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

          The Singapore Warden of their Singapore Sing-Sing says:

          "I'm here to cane ass for chewing gum!"

          😉

  13. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Republicans have long insisted that not only did Hunter use his father's name to secure foreign business deals for himself but that Joe Biden was in on the game. There is evidence for the former, and not for the latter.

    This is a false statement. Multiple emails, meetings, photos with Joe, and even a whistle-blower that has already talked to the FBI.

    Ignorance or intentional ENB?

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      It's pretty clear that Twitter's decision to suppress the story—ultimately a wrong decision, albeit also a very short-lived one—was very much a product of people trying to avoid repeating the mistakes of 2016. Authorities were on high alert—perhaps to the point of paranoia—about foreign propaganda that might influence the 2020 electorate. And tech companies, having just lived through years of being excoriated for letting foreign propaganda spread in 2016, were extra sensitive to allegations that they might let it happen again.

      Did you sleep through TwitterFiles ENB?

      The media is especially culpable as they were told by DNI the laptop was real but still pushed the Russian hacking narrative. Twitter was told a week before by the FBI about a hacking attempt despite the FBI knowing the laptop was real. The FBI knew the story was dropping as they were watching and reading Giuliani emails.

      This is proof you aren't neutral nor a libertarian. Youre narrative shaping and gaslighting.

      1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

        At this point ENB deseves all the ire directed her way. It is intentional. Nobody is that obtuse.

      2. Nardz   2 years ago

        She's a liar.
        Beyond doubt.

      3. Derp-o-Matic 6000   2 years ago

        Did you sleep through TwitterFiles ENB?

        Deliberately ignored them. Taibbi and Weiss arent real journalists, like she is.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          Perhaps she is still in the denial phase. Maybe later we will hear about grieving.

    2. JesseAz   2 years ago

      We all remember the seemingly endless investigations, hearings, broadcasts, and reports on whether Trump himself was involved, the role social media company algorithms played, and whether tech companies were to blame. Even after it became clear that the whole business was overblown, Democrats—in Congress, on TV, and in print media—refused to let go of narratives about Trumpian collusion and negligent tech execs.

      One article admitting it was false last week after Wapo did resolves Reasons writers of culpability? Fuck off ENB.

    3. damikesc   2 years ago

      Cannot imagine why readers have disdain for editors like ENB

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        I'm just surprised sarc hasn't jumped in with the same narrative. He pushed the same defense last week of how he was moral in attacking the people who were right regarding hunter and Twitter because he waited until the smoking gun. Everyone else was a conspiracy theorist even though they were right.

        1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          I’m just surprised sarc hasn’t jumped in

          He's been a regular little white knight lately, hasn't he? To bad he's too intellectually lightly armored to take a hit.

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

            He jumped in below. Same excuses. Same rationalization why people who were right the whole time were actually wrong.

            Quite amazing.

        2. damikesc   2 years ago

          "Conspiracy theorists" have an annoying habit of being right. Blasey-Ford was full of shit. Duke lacrosse team did not rape anybody. Biden did engage in a quid pro quo and brag about it. Twitter and social media at large were banning/silencing dissenting voices. Russiagate was utter bullshit. BLM was a massive scam. The vaccine is not terribly helpful. Virtually all public health measures the last 2 years were at best non-beneficial and actually harmful in many ways.

          It sucks to be right all of the time.

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Hebis rationalizing why being wrong for 6 years is better than being right for 6 years below.

          2. JasonAZ   2 years ago

            "Blasey-Ford was full of shit."

            Ah, Reason covered this spectacularly well. Blasey-Ford had a credible allegation. Funny how that only applies to women that have allegations towards a non-progressive.

          3. JoeB   2 years ago

            Accidental flag, sorry. Stupid touchscreen.

    4. Longtobefree   2 years ago

      "Ignorance or intentional ENB?"

      Please explain the difference - - - - - - - -

  14. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    Here we are more than two years out from the 2020 election, and they're calling a congressional hearing over the fact that a private company suppressed a negative news story about the Biden family for 24 hours.

    BUT NO FAIR !!!

    WE DEMAND PRIVATE COMPANIES PUBLISH STUFF WE LIKE !!!!

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      LIKE DICK PICS!

    2. Derp-o-Matic 6000   2 years ago

      You left out "at the behest of the FBI who knew it was true"

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        This.
        Buttplug is desperate to make it about naked pics and not the FBI's suppression of evidence of bribery.

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      And by "We" PB means the DNC and federal government.

    4. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      It was NOT for only 24 hours. This is outright gaslighting to claim it was only 24 hours.

      The NYPOST was locked out of twitter indefinitely.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        ENB says it, Buttplug repeats it.
        The importance of minimizing and misrepresenting the time must have been emphasized in last nights talking-points memo.

      2. Nardz   2 years ago

        It's a lie.
        ENB is lying.
        ENB lies often.

        1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

          For those who need a reminder, ENB hates Reason commenters.

          https://twitter.com/ENBrown/status/1601256561086988289

          Reason commenters make up a very small percentage of our readership, and are largely people who hate everyone on staff and all of our work, on any subject. They’re in now way representative of “libertarian audiences” overall

  15. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    What went wrong with the Federal Aviation Administration's Notice to Air Mission system yesterday?

    Not enough paternity leave.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Runs on windows xp.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        XP? They are still planning for that upgrade.

    2. damikesc   2 years ago (edited)
    3. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

      Tarmacs are racist.

  16. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    The Pentagon has officially dropped its COVID-19 mandate for U.S. troops.

    They've thinned the herd enough, I guess.

    1. Longtobefree   2 years ago

      https://babylonbee.com/news/military-to-end-vax-mandate-now-that-all-the-conservatives-have-been-weeded-out

      1. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

        Damn them.

  17. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    The Consumer Product Safety Commission chair says the agency has no intention of banning gas stoves...

    If you like your gas stove you can keep your gas stove.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      agency has no intention of banning gas stoves…

      But it might happen accidentally.

      1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

        They won't do it and thank God they're doing it. Evergreen.

      2. BYODB   2 years ago

        They have no intention of banning them.

        They just intend to make them so cost prohibitive that only someone making 500k a year can think about buying one.

        This is how you can safely interpret most government messaging.

    2. Rich   2 years ago

      agency has no intention of banning gas stoves…

      It simply intends to heavily tax gas and to require training and licensing for possession of a gas stove.

      1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

        Common sense stove control.

      2. Chumby   2 years ago

        Background checks and mandatory waiting periods will be required. Also, there may be the need to prohibit six burner gas stoves since no civilian should need to have a gas stove with six (SIX!) burners. At the time the constitution was written, they could not have foreseen stoves with six burners.

        1. Heresolong   2 years ago

          LOL.

    3. Moonrocks   2 years ago

      ...despite rumors to the contrary

      Funny how this isn't Dangerous and Harmful Misinformation.

      1. Rich   2 years ago

        Well, you don't hear anyone claiming gas stoves cure COVID, do you?

    4. Nardz   2 years ago

      https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1613544501808861186?t=HGTWveeva6tLVc81xTVhQg&s=19

      “GOP culture war” = us just minding our own business with our stoves

      [Link]

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        Tomorrow:

        "Why Does the American Far-Right Hate Electric Ranges?
        A look into the dark history of the Republican fetish for fire"

        1. Krokko   2 years ago

          To be sure, they can all imagine that the burner flame is a burning cross!

          1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

            You have 3 K’s in a 6 letter screen name and you’re talking about a burning cross?

            Hmmmmmm……

    5. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Did you see the UCLA study used to prove the danger? Completely sealed room with no ventilation to prove the harm.

      1. Eeyore   2 years ago

        You don't even need the stove in an air tight room. Did they do a control to test for the effects of the chemical out gassing from the plastic sheeting used to seal the room? How about a control just to see if cutting off all fresh air was bad? I suggest the researchers wear a plastic bag on their heads for an hour.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          They probably did no such test. In my industry, when abating asbestos in the same sort of plastic sheeting, we use a spray glue to seal the gaps. This spray glue gives off volatile organic compounds (VOCs) of its own. The effect is actually quite measurable. My guess is that some of these VOCs also mixed into what they measured from the range.

      2. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

        When I looked into building a house in California many years ago, I discovered those little 10K BTU wall heaters are verboten in California, even though approved by the feds and every other state. The rationale was the danger of carbon monoxide poisoning or some such rot. Made me laugh, because my stove at the time had 6 15K BTU burners.

        It also made me laugh because I wanted those little wall heaters in bedrooms to save gas compared to one huge central heating system.

        It all comes down to faith in humanity and individuals. Most people want to do the right thing. The problem used to be just general ignorance, but has become government misinformation.

        1. Nardz   2 years ago

          "It all comes down to faith in humanity and individuals. Most people want to do the right thing. The problem used to be just general ignorance, but has become government misinformation."

          True.
          The problem is, and it's a rather intractable one, in a society that has no room for interpersonal violence but otherwise values freedom there comes a point where lying is more competitively advantageous than having integrity and avoiding dishonesty.
          This has led to the proliferation of liars, like ENB among others, having their views spread further than they merit.
          There are no consequences for lying. There are no checks on it because the liars are in power. And the liars own the means of production in the Information Age. They are the ones spreading the message.
          And they are shitty people. The message that "most people want to do the right thing" is not spread because the people spreading messages are shitty and don't try to do the right thing. Their shittiness becomes the baseline, and it becomes accepted that the government is looked to.
          But government is wholly captured by shitty people who have no qualms whatsoever with deceiving and harming the people, because the instinct to do so was never beaten out of them.

    6. Eeyore   2 years ago

      You can have a gas stove, but it has to be registered. If you have kids in the house you can be charged with child abuse. It will have capacity limits. Nobody needs a 4 burner gas stove.

    7. TrickyVic (old school)   2 years ago

      I don't think the chair has the legal ability to ban gas stoves.

      1. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

        Ha!

    8. Longtobefree   2 years ago

      They're going to just ban natural gas.
      That way they get the existing users as well as new purchases.

  18. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    ...after commissioner Richard Trumka's remarks ignited a political firestorm.

    Some trial balloons float better than others.

    1. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

      Ask Trumka if his idea floats or sinks....sort of like turds. 🙂

    2. Rich   2 years ago

      Especially if the others are filled with propane.

      1. Ted AKA Teddy Salad, CIA/US Ballet Force   2 years ago

        Where’s Hank Hill when we need him?

    3. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

      The overton window has moved.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Windows (with glass) are racist.

        1. Chumby   2 years ago

          Those defending Windows are Gateskeeping.

          1. Utkonos   2 years ago

            Which is why, in any Case, I miss AOL.

  19. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Jesse Singal looks at vaccine hysteria and sports deaths.

    They got to him.

    1. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

      He only uses the word misinformation four times. I admire his self control.

      1. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago (edited)

        Well, that read was a waste of time. He both-side’s to the point of saying nothing.

        So, in conclusion, let your student athlete get shot up with a barely tested and even less effectual compound.

    2. Nardz   2 years ago

      Jesse Singal was always a eunuch posing as "centrist"

  20. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago (edited)

    …what’s at stake in a case involving state sovereignty and the status of Puerto Rico.

    GO BACK TO MEXICO.

    No, wait!

    1. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

      D.C. is planning to hang a bunch of posters that say "Thou Shalt Not Kill."

      Unless the elites want to get population numbers under control.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        Oh, I thought it meant they were going to hang internet posters for saying that.

        1. Rich   2 years ago

          Nice catch!

        2. Anomalous   2 years ago

          They would if they could.

    2. TrickyVic (old school)   2 years ago

      Three choices.

      Status Quo - Do nothing
      Independence - Remove the colonialism.
      Statehood - Finally complete the colonialism.

      Funny how many of those who say colonialism is white supremacy are for the third.

      1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

        Independence would also make the Jones Act irrelevant for Puerto Rico, and I suspect the sudden drop in PR's cost of living and the sudden lack of Uncle Sugar subsidies would be too stark a demonstration of reality to fit the Progressive world view.

  21. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Aides to President Joe Biden have discovered at least one additional batch of classified documents...

    But it's totally different because the federal bureaucracy likes him.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      have discovered at least one additional batch

      There’s more.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        When do we get to see a staged photo of all the documents on the floor?

    2. Minadin   2 years ago

      They were in his garage in Delaware.

  22. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

    Every single day is a new day for Elizabeth Nolan Brown, a fresh chance to demonstrate that she's a libertarian. I'd love to have her run one of these where I find nothing to criticize, but it's always got stuff like this in it:

    It's pretty clear that Twitter's decision to suppress the story—ultimately a wrong decision, albeit also a very short-lived one—was very much a product of people trying to avoid repeating the mistakes of 2016

    What fucking mistakes were made in 2016? The fact that truthful e-mails about DNC operations were disclosed? The lack of censorship? The fact that Trump got elected? Are those mistakes that Twitter made in 2016 tried to correct?

    The fact that you're just going to weasel this in as an apology for Twitter's very wrongful censorship-which was suggested by the FBI-shows what a shitweasel you are. "They had no way to determine whether it was a real story," you might apologize. Which is exactly the reason they had no business censoring it-they have no business determining what's truthful or not in the first place.

    1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

      Free Minds, Free Markets, and the FBI/CIA dictating want people can say/hear/read/write.

    2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

      From a libertarian perspective electing Fatass Donnie in 2016 was a disaster.

      Fatass Donnie’s True Legacy:

      Worst four year GDP of any POTUS since Hoover at 1.6%.
      Worst jobs record since Hoover.
      Green-lit Iran’s nuclear weapons program
      Increased deficit from half a trillion to $2.9 trillion
      Increased spending more on a per cent basis than any President post ww2.
      Failed on his signature campaign promise – a border wall
      Inflamed tension with NATO allies
      Hopped in bed with Putin, Little Kim and other dictators
      Empowered Christian Fascists, Proud Boys, Neo-Nazis and other crazies.
      Folded to labor on his anti-free trade Mexico-Canada pact
      bungled pandemic response driving up stimulus costs
      crushed the Republican Party – losing Congress and White House.

      Wow, that nigga stank!

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        What about his penis?

        1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          Most of that list was penis.

          He starts off by crediting Covid Lockdowns and House spending to Trump and ends up ranting about Christians and Trump upsetting NATO.

          He sounded like Sqrlsy. I hope he didn't get 50¢ for it.

      2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

        But, but, but... he cut regulations!

        Seriously though, despite all his negatives, I'm pretty sure he killed fewer people than any other president in living memory.

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          That seems important.

        2. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Most of that list was wrong and biased yet your first impulse was to agree with the pedo biden supporter. Weird.

          1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

            Most of that list was gibberish. He wasn't exactly bringing out his "A" game.

            He did fall back on his old "Blame Trump for Covid" trick though.

            "Worst four year GDP of any POTUS since Hoover at 1.6%.
            Worst jobs record since Hoover.
            Increased deficit from half a trillion to $2.9 trillion
            Increased spending more on a per cent basis than any President post ww2.
            bungled pandemic response driving up stimulus costs"

            In Buttplug world the President locks down states, not governors, and the President creates spending bills, not House opposition.

            1. Minadin   2 years ago

              In my state, we have a Democrat stranglehold on local (municipal & county) governments, but almost the entire rest of the state is overwhelmingly Republican.

              So, it was our local mayors or county executives or health department directors making edicts, while the state remained open. You could go literally one county over and there were no masks, no closed businesses, no curfews, no Covid.

              1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                To me that's ideal. Local government making the decisions that impact peoples lives locally.

                1. Minadin   2 years ago

                  It's better than state-wide or nation-wide, for certain. And I have a better chance of ousting a local leader than non-local. Only problems in this case:

                  - I'm not sure where the local executives got the authority.
                  - Jungle primaries - which Democrat do you want?

                  Eventually, the state passed a law that said that the local governments did have the authority, but only if they were enacted by the local representative legislative body (Board Of Aldermen, County Council). And it was upheld in the state Supreme Court.

                  So, at least no more rule by executive diktat at least.

              2. Square = Circle   2 years ago

                You could go literally one county over and there were no masks, no closed businesses, no curfews, no Covid.

                This was pretty much the case in CA as well. There were nominal statewide mandates, but the more blue areas exceeded them while the more red areas ignored them.

                The starkest contrast I saw in So Cal was going between LA and Orange Counties, where if you were in Long Beach it was masks everywhere but if you went a mile over into Seal Beach it was like nothing was happening.

      3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Double-down on retarded.

      4. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

        Biden is better? Hillary would have been better?

        Hey pedo, it came down to two choices, one bad and one worse. Why do you ignore the worse one in your rush to condemn the bad one? Is that how you chose your career in kiddie porn?

        A few years back you posted kiddy porn to this site, and your initial handle was banned. The link below details all the evidence surrounding that ban. A decent person would honor that ban and stay away from Reason. Instead you keep showing up, acting as if all people should just be ok with a kiddy-porn-posting asshole hanging around.

        https://reason.com/2022/08/06/biden-comforts-the-comfortable/?comments=true#comment-9635836

    3. Derp-o-Matic 6000   2 years ago

      albeit also a very short-lived one

      I'm never sure if ENB is profoundly stupid or merely thinks her readers are.

      It was short-lived. They *only* censored the story during the week prior to the election. After that, any one could read it.

      1. damikesc   2 years ago

        Also blocked direct messaging of the story between people. Which sounds completely legit.

        1. Outlaw Josey Wales   2 years ago

          And countered with the 'Russian Disinformation' narrative talking points from the WH down.

    4. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      .. It’s pretty clear that Twitter’s decision to suppress the story

      Was it really twitter’s decision?

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        It was an in-kind political contribution.

    5. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago (edited)

      I read that as a terrible dodge. The FBI knew the laptop was real when they told twitter it was fake. Here, ENB is trying to frame the intentional suppression of damning information as a good faith act. She should be ashamed, but alas, she has zero scruples.

      1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   2 years ago

        The FBI also knew that everything about Trump/Russia was fake while insisting it was real

      2. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

        I'd just like, in her mind, to know what the "mistakes of 2016" were, as far as Twitter was concerned. Was it allowing misinformation to air because they weren't censoring people? The horror!

      3. Nardz   2 years ago

        She is as evil as any camp guard was

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          Let's hope she faces trial when she's 90 years old.

    6. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      The mistakes were that despite all the illegal efforts by government actors, and collusion with the media, eventually the truth came out.

    7. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      My favorite thing about big tech companies running full teams of wrongthink apparatchiks is that there are entire channels dedicated to bigfoot and ancient aliens and the censors don't even notice!

      1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

        Are you suggesting bigfoot and ancient aliens aren't the exact same thing?

        1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

          I'm reporting you for misinformation

    8. TrickyVic (old school)   2 years ago

      ""What fucking mistakes were made in 2016?""

      FBI agent got busted lying on a FISA warrant?
      FBI agent got busted lying about DNS information to claim russian collusion?

      The mistake is they got caught.

      1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

        In ENB's mind, though, how is this a Twitter issue that Twitter executives felt they needed to correct?

        1. TrickyVic (old school)   2 years ago

          Government in bed with social media companies to manipulate which opinions should be herd on a social platform should be ringing fire alarms for people who believe in a free society. If the FBI is or isn't directing it is a side bar issue. The fact that the relationship exist should be problematic.

  23. Rich   2 years ago

    Aides to President Joe Biden have discovered at least one additional batch of classified document

    Emphasis added. Drip, drip, drip,...

    1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

      They have to ditch him far enough away from 2024 to say its old news and to establish Harris as the incumbent.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        President Cackle? God help us.

        1. Utkonos   2 years ago

          And your little dog too!

    2. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

      Sullum's next article: "It doesn't matter how many docs Biden had, Trump was still worse."

      1. Not Robbers=Nut Rubbers   2 years ago

        Why would Reason be any different than MSNBC or CNN?

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Or the WaPo or NYT for that matter?

  24. Derp-o-Matic 6000   2 years ago

    Hunter Biden Investigation Become a Russiagate-Style Search for Election Excuses

    Right, because that is the biggest thing we should be worried about in regard to Hunter Biden.

    We all know you're a progressive hack, ENB, but it's just tedious at this point.

  25. Derp-o-Matic 6000   2 years ago

    The whole thing echoes Democratic antics with regard to Russian meddling in the 2016 election. For years following that election, Democrats were obsessed with the idea that Russians had somehow cost Hillary Clinton the election and thrown it to Donald Trump.

    Yeah, and everyone at Reason was decrying said Democratic antics and overreach at the time and not breathlessly reporting every fabricated allegation as an existential threat to western civilization

    1. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

      While simultaneously downplaying, excusing or ignoring every bit government directed censorship of the type she is currently downplaying, excusing and hoping to ignore in the future. Fuck this proggy cunt.

  26. Unicorn Abattoir   2 years ago

    It's pretty clear that Twitter's decision to suppress the story—ultimately a wrong decision, albeit also a very short-lived one—was very much a product of people trying to avoid repeating the mistakes of 2016.

    That mistake being the wrong person being elected.

  27. sarcasmic   2 years ago

    There is evidence for the former, and not for the latter.

    A lack of evidence is proof of a coverup!

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Poor sarc

  28. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

    I fear Republicans are now headed down the same path. Here we are more than two years out from the 2020 election, and they're calling a congressional hearing over the fact that a private company suppressed a negative news story about the Biden family for 24 hours.

    After the FBI warned them that a ton of fake news was coming related to Biden, Biden's family, and Biden's business dealings. And Jim Baker isn't just a Twitter employee, he's an ex-spook. Do you think there's any valid reason for Congress to investigate the government censorship connection or is it all supposed to be water under the bridge, now?

  29. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/Oilfield_Rando/status/1613368032398565376

    Ralph Nader's national hard-left 501c4 lobbying org automatically charges students on tons of campuses a fee for dues. Students have to opt out of it to avoid the charges.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      That shit needs to be illegal. If one did not consent to the payment, one should not have to pay them.

      1. Nardz   2 years ago

        There are no rules, just weapons.

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Why do you hate unions?

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          I live in the state most affected by them. See Janus v. AFSCME and Amendment 1: https://www.nbcchicago.com/illinois-midterm-election-2022/whats-next-after-amendment-1-passes-in-illinois-and-when-will-it-begin/2997354/

        2. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

          It used to be the style to wear unions on your belt.

    2. MT-Man   2 years ago

      Don't get me started on that - the whole PIRG, MTIRG here, thing is so scummy, you have to opt out to not pay. I've argued this many times with my professor friends how gross this theft of money for political causes they don't care or don't believe in but have money taken to support.

  30. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/rising_serpent/status/1613032313948114944

    The company that wrote the article being used to ban gas stoves is a world economic forum (WEF) partner.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      "I'm shocked, shocked to find gambling is going on in here."

  31. Chumby   2 years ago

    Another chaff and redirect by Spin Lizzie

    1. Outlaw Josey Wales   2 years ago

      The Boys are Back in Charge.

  32. Brian   2 years ago

    “ Authorities were on high alert—perhaps to the point of paranoia—about foreign propaganda that might influence the 2020 electorate.”

    So authorities were on high alert over democrat talking points? Well, what else could Twitter execs do then?

  33. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

    And the idea that Biden himself helped cover it up because he's hiding something about his own business dealings lacks any evidence.

    There's definitely insinuations, but no evidence. Should we look for evidence? Certainly not, because there is none. It's a waste of time to look for evidence when there's not already any evidence.

    Nevermind all this evidence over here, that's all fake news. Certainly not worth investigating because there's no evidence that that evidence is evidence of anything.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

      The insinuation being Tony Bobulinski came out and said I was in on those deals and Joe Biden is the big guy and ran everything.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        To try to make the case that the elder Mr. Biden played a role in his son’s dealings with Mr. Ye, Republicans point to statements by Tony Bobulinski, an associate who has claimed that Hunter’s father had at least some knowledge of the possible venture with CEFC. They also cite messages in which another participant in the negotiations, James Gilliar, floated the possibility that a 10 percent stake in their prospective company could be set aside for the “big guy.” ………………… Mr. Gilliar later said he was unaware of any involvement in the CEFC discussions by Hunter’s father at any time. Family members and other participants say the elder Mr. Biden never met with Mr. Ye or other company executives.

        https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/11/us/politics/hunter-biden-investigations.html

        Too bad, Peanuts. You gave it the old Benghazi try.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Really, the NYT, the mouthpiece of the Democratic Party? Try harder, dork.

          #DefendBidenAtAllCosts

        2. Chumby   2 years ago

          Peanuts is the name you give yourself after donning your clown suit?

          Peanuts the children’s party clown.

          1. Moonrocks   2 years ago

            Peanuts the children’s party clown.

            The reason children grow up to fear clowns.

            1. Chumby   2 years ago

              Strange because he refers to all of the kid parties he has performed at as touching

        3. Cyto   2 years ago

          I have hunters partner on video tape. Why do I need anyone else?

          Like he is going to admit bribing government officials in public. That is the dumbest take I have heard yet.

          Wanna go ask that Idaho killer if he did it? Maybe you can take up the cause of his innocence too. "Dude totally says he didn't do it! Nothing to see here!"

        4. JesseAz   2 years ago

          So they list all the evidence and then hand waive them away as not important and that is refutation to you. Got it.

      2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

        Bobolinski and the laptop repair guy were both interviewed by the FBI. If the FBI could make the case that they lied, they'd both be in a penitentiary. They are not.

  34. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/Doc_0/status/1613544271025504256

    You had lefty blowhards on Twitter in the middle of shouting their new War
    on Stoves talking points yesterday when the Biden administration suddenly backed down. It's like pulling the chip out of a Terminator while it's in the middle of emptying a magazine at Sarah Connor.

    Look at how prominent dingbats like AOC played it, with classic Orwellian "we have always been at war with Eastasia" full-steam ahead gusto: We have ALWAYS known gas stoves were dangerous. Everybody knows this. It has ALWAYS been an urgent crisis.

    1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

      https://twitter.com/JazzShaw/status/1613543625220145152

      ICYMI, the new MSM narrative about the gas stove ban stupidity is that it's a GOP plot for a "culture war." It's as if they all got a memo from the White House or something. Check out these headlines that all came out at once.

      1. Cyto   2 years ago

        "As if" they got a memo.

        LOL

      2. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Which editor here constantly screams culture war like the MSM.... hmm.

    2. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

      https://twitter.com/bonchieredstate/status/1613535440367407107

      Within 72 hours, Matt went from never having mentioned this to calling people who like gas stoves “gascucks” if they don’t agree with a total government ban.

      It’s a cult.

      1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

        https://twitter.com/exjon/status/1613545742911811586

        you know who else liked gas ovens

        1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   2 years ago

          Jill Biden?

        2. Chumby   2 years ago

          Julia Childs?

        3. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          Amon Leopold Göth?

        4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          All those other government officials who just followed orders?

        5. Outlaw Josey Wales   2 years ago

          Escoffier?

        6. tracerv   2 years ago

          Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego?

          1. Krokko   2 years ago

            Not Whitman, Price, and Haddad?

        7. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

          The Witch in Hansel & Gretel?

        8. Utkonos   2 years ago

          IG Farben? Whoops, private company—my bad!

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      To be fair, maybe AOC is looking for reasons in her childhood. Gas stoves? Lead paint chips?

    4. Minadin   2 years ago

      Snopes changed its rating on whether the proposed gas stove ban from 'mixed' to 'mixed/false' to 'false' pretty quickly yesterday.

      No one was talking about this until a Biden administration official brought it up. Now it's a Republican ploy in their dastardly 'culture war'. Got it.

      1. Super Scary   2 years ago

        Yeah, it's amazing how quickly people cry about "culture war" when all that is actually happening is one side tries to ban/remove/restrict something and the other side is goes "No, we don't want you to ban/remove/restrict that thing!" and then the first group blames the second group for starting a culture war.

      2. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

        They played their Trumpka card.

  35. sarcasmic   2 years ago

    Proving my point! Speaker thanks militant transgender protestors for shutting down his event at McGill University - where he was to talk about how trans zealots RUIN free speech

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11626357/Protestors-shut-McGill-University-event-transgender-zealots-shutting-free-speech.html

    Irony is trans-phobic.

    1. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

      It's really scary and sad just how stupid college kids can be. It's as if emoting their feels and throwing temper tantrums like toddlers is a legitimate argument.

      1. The Margrave of Azilia   2 years ago

        Of course it's legitimate - it worked, didn't it? You can't get much more legitimate than that.

        /sarc, but not really

  36. Unicorn Abattoir   2 years ago

    The Consumer Product Safety Commission chair says the agency has no intention of banning gas stoves, despite rumors to the contrary:

    Just like Homeland Security had no intention of establishing a Ministry of Truth.

  37. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

    "Aides to President Joe Biden have discovered at least one additional batch of classified documents in a location separate from the Washington office he used after leaving the Obama administration, according to a person familiar with the matter," reports NBC News.

    But trust us when we say it's far less than the number of documents Trump had and we've definitely found all the documents this time. Absolutely, there are no more, just like the last time Biden's lawyers assured us everything was turned over.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      And you can always totally trust lawyers. As honest as a used car salesman.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        And both more honest than a network talking head.

    2. Cyto   2 years ago

      Even better... they didn't say where for 24 hours.

      Now we know why....

      Biden let it drop when reading from his cue card.... they were in his garage with his corvette.

      LOL. That was on his prepared card!! It makes it OK, because he loves his corvette and the garage is totally locked!

      See Twitter link elsewhere in thread. I legitimately thought it was some kind of spoof.

      LOL. "I am looking forward to being able to speak on this matter.."

      LOL. Dude!!! You are standing at a podium with a mic and a room full of reporters. What makes you unable to speak?

      1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

        "It's not like they're sitting out on the street," he insisted when a reported asked why he was storing classified material next to a sports car.

    3. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

      The rest of the documents are safely stored in Peking.

    4. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

      Rather funny. These documents seem to be scattered about in different places with little security, and Sloppy Joe claims he has no idea where they are, what's in them or if they even exist. But that's not a big deal.

  38. Unicorn Abattoir   2 years ago

    D.C. is planning to hang a bunch of posters that say "Thou Shalt Not Kill."

    That'll deter the illiterate dropout gang bangers.

    1. Rich   2 years ago

      One predicts those posters will be popular small arms targets.

  39. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Trigger warnings.

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/01/11/now-even-peter-pan-has-been-given-a-trigger-warning/

    A freedom-of-information request by this weekend’s Scottish Mail on Sunday found that Peter Pan is among the latest books to be slapped with a trigger warning by university officials. According to Aberdeen University, the beloved children’s book could prove to be ‘emotionally challenging’ to some adult undergraduates.

    1. Rich   2 years ago

      According to Aberdeen University, it isn’t the ticking crocodile or the villainous Captain Hook that is likely to give students the biggest fright, but the novel’s ‘odd perspectives on gender’.

      Can't Aberdeen University counter this with some nonfictional 'correct perspectives on gender’?

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        If Aberdeen can get over binge drinking, maybe.

    2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      beloved children’s book could prove to be ‘emotionally challenging’ to some adult undergraduates.

      Better not let them see Bambi or Old Yeller.

      1. Rich   2 years ago

        What is Charlotte's Web, chopped liver?

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          No, more like pulled pork.

          1. HorseConch   2 years ago

            See, books are racist. It should be carnitas to be more culturally sensitive.

          2. Utkonos   2 years ago

            See? In terms of triggering, talking pigs have a Snowball effect.

          3. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

            "Some Pig!"

            🙂

      2. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

        Bridge to Terabithia

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      News flash: there are no "adult" undergraduates. Even faculty is now questionable.

    4. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      Wait til they find out about Lolita

    5. Minadin   2 years ago

      Wait until they realize that the Lost Boys were an allegorical explanation for little children who died in a British cholera epidemic.

      'Never-Neverland' was the book's version of your parents telling 6-year-old you that your dog went to live on the 'Happy Dog Farm' when they had to have it euthanized.

  40. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Even Lindsey takes note of the document caches.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/second-cache-classified-biden-documents-found-different-location

    Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), a senior member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, on Wednesday called for Attorney General Merrick Garland to appoint a special counsel to investigate the handling of classified documents by President Biden while he served as vice president. Graham said the appointment of a special counsel is necessary to investigate Biden after Garland announced the appointment of career prosecutor Jack Smith to investigate former President Trump’s possession of classified documents at Mar-a-Lago.

    And the main takeaway here:

    Of note, as Vice President, Biden did not have the authority to declassify his documents - an argument that former President Trump has made several times regarding classified documents found during a DOJ raid of his Mar-a-Lago home last year.

    1. windycityattorney   2 years ago

      Arguments he made on truthsocial or to the press...but tellingly...not in fucking court. "I could have declassified them as I had the authority to do so" is NOT "I declassified them." He has made claims that he had a standing order to declassify everything...also not shown or argued in court.

      Could it be... that a man who tells lies like other people breathe... is fucking lying again? No way. Can't be. Say it ain't so!!!

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

        Well there is actually no statutory or regulatory process required for a president to declassify and he has witnesses that back him up so... He could testify all day long without fear. But I'm guessing you think you have a point. What was it?

  41. Brian   2 years ago

    “ The documents reveal Twitter executives engaged in ample deliberation and debate about how to handle the story”

    Excuse me, but I think you meant to say the documents reveal Twitter immediately banned the story and then discussed what excuse they could use for banning it, deliberating and debating on that excuse amply.

    1. Moonrocks   2 years ago

      Twitter files? What Twitter files?

    2. JasonAZ   2 years ago

      Hey, ENB knows exactly how to craft a narrative to protect her comrades.

  42. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Fat fuck who ignores federal immigration laws wants people in state to enforce his gun laws.

    https://www.thecentersquare.com/illinois/pritzker-to-police-on-gun-ban-enforcement-they-will-do-their-job-or-won-t/article_12a7d98c-91eb-11ed-a285-a3681c77bd47.html

    With a new ban on certain guns now in place in Illinois, some have said they won’t comply. Gov. J.B. Pritzker has a message for law enforcement: Do your job or else. Gun-rights groups say the ban won’t last long.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      It should be noted that Pritzker and his family run a foundation dedicated to brainwashing kids into thinking that they need to change their gender.

  43. Overt   2 years ago

    ENB's dissembling is becoming increasingly desperate here.

    Pretty much every single statement in her screed is just her hopes and bias stated as fact.

    "There is evidence for the former, and not for the latter."
    This is straight up false. We have testimony from Hunter's business associates that Joe was involved. We have emails calling out "10% for the big guy". We have emails from oligarcs, thanking Hunter for introducing Joe.

    ENB, frankly, either doesn't know what she is talking about, or she is lying.

    "It's pretty clear that Twitter's decision to suppress the story...was very much a product of people trying to avoid repeating the mistakes of 2016."

    No this is not pretty clear. There is ample evidence to indicate that the "Foreign Interference" narrative was a convenient excuse to spike a story that Democrat operatives at Twitter and the Federal Government knew was harmful to their election prospects.
    - FFS, ENB even ADMITS as much. She later explains that the Foreign Interference narrative was a FAKE claim, that democrats used to explain away the 2016 loss...And then says that those same Democrats were suddenly taking it seriously.
    - The 2016 Russian Interference narrative was a sham. We know that now, and we know that Jim Baker was one of the people who helped architect it. You don't need to be a crazy deplorable to suspect that Baker was doing the exact same thing he did in 2016.
    - We have ample evidence in the email files that people inside Twitter were questioning this narrative, so that alone put's ENB's narrative in doubt.
    - We know that the FBI *knew* this laptop was out there. And that they were going to companies and telling them that they should be on the lookout for Anti-Hunter leaks. The FBI knew this information was genuine, but worked with Twitter execs to wargame the suppression of exactly this info.

    Now, it *could* be that this is all convenient coincidence. It could be that the people who knew the Russian Narrative was bullshit, and knew the Hunter materials were genuine, also were confused into thinking this real stuff was an example of the foreign interference that previously was bullshit. But nothing here is obvious or clear.

    "a private company suppressed a negative news story about the Biden family for 24 hours."

    Again, a totally biased and inaccurate statement. It wasn't that they supressed a story for 24 hours. It was that they suppressed it, disabled the accounts of people who might have also talked about it, and amplified the messaging of people trying to discredit it, and provided an environment where every other sympathetic journalist could plausibly deny it.

    Note that ENB just assumes that this was inconsequential. We have polls from people who say that they wouldn't have voted for Biden if they knew. But ENB doesn't consider any of that evidence. She thinks Biden would have won anyways, so she is adamant that anyone thinking otherwise is wrong.

    At the end of the day, this is more weak tea from ENB. We have smoking gun proof that the Federal Government, Democrat Operatives, and their sympathizers in a private company were conspiring to deprive people of free speech. And her natural reaction is to criticize the Republicans for investigating it.

    Of all the angles to this story of fascist deprivation of our civil liberties, this is the one she chooses. She has no interest in reviewing the facts of the matter. She is only interested in YET ANOTHER "Republicans Pounce" article. SMDH

    1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

      And the crazy thing is that I can agree with her larger sentiment, that Republican lawmakers probably have more interest in making accusations and excuses than actually investigating. There's a sense of getting revenge about this for what happened in the Trump administration, and I don't like the idea that every Congressional session turns into years-long investigations of what happened during the last presidential election.

      But every element of what she says is an attempt to deflect, distort, or dismiss. She doesn't acknowledge the facts that are bad for progressives in her progressive bubble, she dismisses the investigation into Twitter as a wild goose chase, and she distorts the actions of the FBI as if it was Twitter's own private actions. She doesn't even acknowledge the Jim Baker connection, pretending like he's just a Twitter employee and not a former CIA member with existing government connections.

      1. Sevo   2 years ago

        "And the crazy thing is that I can agree with her larger sentiment, that Republican lawmakers probably have more interest in making accusations and excuses than actually investigating. There’s a sense of getting revenge about this for what happened in the Trump administration, and I don’t like the idea that every Congressional session turns into years-long investigations of what happened during the last presidential election..."

        Got an issue here: The Trump witch-hunt was a total and complete fabrication; not supported by a single fact. Congress wasted now 6 years investigating an empty closet
        What we have here is factually different; The Biden family *is* crooked and should be prosecuted, and various fed. gov. officials *have* strong-armed media in a serious attempt to influence a presidential election, and they should be prosecuted.
        Equating the two is a mistake.

        1. Cyto   2 years ago

          "Republicans are more interested in"

          I am going to put my marker on "establishment" winning over party here and them getting nowhere and doing nothing of consequence.

          There is a pattern established here. Knives out for "outsiders". Gamesmanship and points scoring for "establishment" folks.

          And outsiders seem to learn quickly or get eliminated. Look at AOC. Once doing sit-ins in Pelosi's office, now a loyal party water carrier.

          No chance the establishment speaker allows the establishment to take real damage, regardless of "concessions" he may have offered.

          1. Sevo   2 years ago

            "I am going to put my marker on “establishment” winning over party here and them getting nowhere and doing nothing of consequence."

            In a cynical mood, I'd agree: Trump was a danger in that he was not a swamp critter, hence the 'never Trumper' GOP ranks.
            If you are correct and congress now punts such obvious corruption by Biden, the FBI, and Schiff, my cynical moods will out.

            1. Cyto   2 years ago

              I give you Barr and Durham.

              I could have prosecuted not just that lawyer, but everyone in the room at the white house when they decided to frame Flynn. That is easy enough that even a non lawyer like me could prosecute it.

              And a US attorney? Are you kidding me?

              They could easily have sqeezed their way up the food chain, all the way to Obama. Look at what they were able to do to the Trump crowd when they had nothing but lies to start with, and their attempts to set up a crime for bringing cash on an overseas flight.

              They were the cover up.

        2. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

          I can agree with his broader point though, if congress is wasting it's time on purely political investigations of a fabricated or immaterial nature then they aren't doing their proper job and it clouds the larger issue of importance. The Clinton scandals of the 90's became about a blowjob because the Republicans couldn't get Bill on anything more than lying about an affair and the Democrats forged a scandal to stymie an opponent, both those plus others make it harder to view Biden's actual corruption as anything more than another round of political games.

          1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

            Clinton perjured himself. It's an actual crime.

    2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

      "At the end of the day, this is more weak tea from ENB"
      You are far to kind. It is straight up regime propaganda.

  44. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Do not enforce the unconstitutional.

    https://www.wcia.com/news/county-sheriffs-say-they-will-not-enforce-protect-illinois-communities-law/

    Many counties in Illinois have no plans to enforce the newly enacted assault weapons ban, according to letters released Wednesday.

    1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

      I don't know why anyone would want to live in that state.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        There is some great farmland down south.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          It would be an awesome place to live if they could just excise the Cook County tumor and then put the universities on a leash.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            The tumor is even smaller than just Cook County. It's Chicago, Evanston, and Oak Park. Excising Chicago would fix 95% of the issues as all of the assholes reside there.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

              Sure, but you sometimes have to cut out healthy tissue just to ensure the disease hasn't left traces in the rest of the body.

            2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

              Also, I'm still shocked the shitlibs in Evanston haven't renamed the town yet after the Floyd riots.

      2. Rich   2 years ago

        For the PIZZA!

        *** ducks ***

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          You mean cheese soup in a breadbowl?

      3. JesseAz   2 years ago

        For the Cuban sandwiches.

  45. Mazakon   2 years ago

    "The Consumer Product Safety Commission chair says the agency has no intention of banning gas stoves, despite rumors to the contrary:"
    At the very least, this all was started to get the narrative out. If they won't do it, they'll get blue states to do so and try to recreate the fear COVID caused.

  46. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/AtlRey/status/1613531933312716800?t=FjnkgSGgw_3zfJZ_h4peZQ&s=19

    The frequency at which the corrupt corporate media is starting to outright ignore and/or downplay bombshell stories is disturbing.

    That story about Biden's mishandled classified docs is a big deal and they're downplaying it. Twitter files story, ignored. The AG fired in Virgin Islands, downplayed. Suden deaths of thousands of young people? Ignored. Border crisis? Downplayed. And I can go on and on.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      But plenty of coverage for drag show story hours.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Um, critical coverage?

        1. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

          No, most of the drag queens are missing critical coverage.

    2. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      Dust up at the capitol? 24/7

  47. Cyto   2 years ago (edited)

    Your blurb is full of lies. Straight disinformation, not opinion.

    Let’s just pick one claim

    “Republicans have long insisted that not only did Hunter use his father’s name to secure foreign business deals for himself but that Joe Biden was in on the game. There is evidence for the former, and not for the latter.”

    No. Nobody has ever insisted that Hunter used dad’s name to secure business deals. They have always said this was a straight bribery scandal. DNC shills in the media have consistently demurred with “maybe he traded on his father’s name”.

    And yes, there is plenty of evidence that Joe is in on the scheme. No serious person could claim “no evidence”. Even claiming “insufficient evidence to win a conviction in court” is a stretch. We have emails detailing the scheme and that it reserves 10% for the Big Guy.

    We can easily figure out who that is, but we don’t have to. One of the participants has told us how the scheme was structured and who the big guy is.

    You lie.

    We also have circumstantial evidence. Biden claimed he did not know his son had business dealings in Ukraine and had never talked business with his son. But we have photographs showing him playing golf with Hunter and his bosses from Barisma. We also have Hunter in his own voice complaining about having to send part of his take to dad, and how he has to spend his take to pay for stuff for dad and the family.

    That is not “no evidence”. That is not even “scant evidence”. That is plenty of evidence to convict on bribery and conspiracy charges.

    This is way over the line. Differing opinions are one thing. Even a bizarre double standard of cheering on multiple impeachment hearings that were based on lies and hoaxes while decrying republican investigations is in the realm of “nakedly partisan double standard”, but opinion.

    But this is straight lies. Provably false assertions. This is the thing you claimed to oppose when you supported private censorship. This is misinformation meant to mislead the public on important matters of state.

    And in partaking in such activities you discredit this publication.

    1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

      On major difference I see between Reason and the commentariat is that one changes its tune as new information and facts come to light, while the other stubbornly sticks to its guns no matter what.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        And that would be the commentariat that changes as new facts come to light. The editors on the other hand stubbornly stick to their guns until facts finally smack them in their collective faces.

        1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

          The editors on the other hand stubbornly stick to their guns until facts finally smack them in their collective faces.

          They eventually change their tune. I've never seen you or anyone else in the comments do that, no matter how hard they are smacked by facts.

          1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

            Let’s talk about your stance on conspiracy theories.

          2. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Change their tune for being right? Youre a fucking idiot.

          3. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

            "They eventually change their tune."

            They start whispering the same tune, and only after everyone else has found the real tune.

            Hell, even Twitter changed faster than Reason. Maybe Musk should buy Reason.

        2. Cyto   2 years ago (edited)

          No, I think he means that ENB has altered her opinion on the Russia hoax. At the time it was perfectly reasonable to believe the obvious lies and support the framing of people for crimes, the attempts to overthrow the elected government, etc. But now new information has cpme to light. Namely, that the shoe is on the other foot. So now it is illegitimate.

          See, there was in fact no danger from foreign interference in 2016. Only an idiot could have believed it. But ENB and her friends believed it. So they supported censorship.

          Until it began cutting the other way. Now it is not legitimate to worry about actual plots to influence the elections using vast swaths of the US information communications infrastructure. See, that is new information. It cuts the other way. So a prudent person would change their position.

          1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

            Actually I was thinking about Twatter.

            1. Cyto   2 years ago

              Cuts the wrong way...

              Before: a few tweets from Russian trolls totally changed the election!

              Then we learn that there is a huge scheme to control debate, promote misinformation, suppress true stories that are against the DNC, and the source of the proof of the mechanism and the involvement of feds is in the Twitter files. Proof that the Dems have been doing exactly what they said they would do (read glowing praise of Eric Schmidt and his company The Groundwork).

              Magically we report that Russian trolls had no effect in 2016.

              So now we can use that to claim that state ordered censorship of a major election story across the entire media and online landscape is no big deal. Because the handful of tweets that nobody saw in 2016 that they lied about in order to further their agenda actually didn't do anything, their subsequent scheme to control all speech in the nation didn't do anything either.

              So definitely don't look. In fact, trying to find out what happened is bad. Probably dangerous to democracy.

              1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                Maybe I'm wrong because I thought the idea was so laughable, but I don't recall Reason declaring that Russians got Trump elected.
                Often what I see here is people attributing arguments they saw on MSNBC to Reason, trouncing those arguments, then smugly declaring victory.

                1. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

                  Right, it's not like there are a multitude of article on Reason breathlessly reporting about the Russia collusion hoax as fact or the Mueller investigation and report as proof of complicity. You are such a pathetic leftist shill it's hard to not hold you in contempt from your lies.

                  1. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)

                    There are a multitude of people in the commentariat who claim “You didn’t say this, therefore!”

                    Edit: I caught myself straying down that path. I don't remember the author, but the subject was Republican holdouts and demands. The article was about the behavior of those involved, but didn't even mention the demands themselves. There was no forethought. "I'm not going to consider the demands!" No, thought just hadn't gotten that far.

                    So maybe instead of accusing people of being liars with bad intent, perhaps they didn't think as hard as you and they'd agree with you if you weren't a dick about it.

                    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      No. Youre rationalizing your own ignorance and pushing of leftist narratives. You were wrong and you can't admit it. You're pathetic.

              2. Sevo   2 years ago

                "...Magically we report that Russian trolls had no effect in 2016.
                So now we can use that to claim that state ordered censorship of a major election story across the entire media and online landscape is no big deal. Because the handful of tweets that nobody saw in 2016 that they lied about in order to further their agenda actually didn’t do anything, their subsequent scheme to control all speech in the nation didn’t do anything either..."

                Gonna argue that the russki bullshit is totally irrelevant to the issue at hand:
                We have hard evidence that agents of the federal government used their powers to withhold information from the public which *may* have influenced a presidential election.
                It does not matter whether the act did accomplish that; their actions show it was intended to do so.

                1. Cyto   2 years ago

                  I was giving the "this is what they mean" version of ENB's propaganda.

                  That is hee connect the dots.

                  Because Russia didn't turn out to alter the 2016 election, nobody should look at this censorship issue.

                  It is one of the lamest spin attempts you will ever see. But there it is. That is what they are going with.

                  1. Sevo   2 years ago

                    Got it.

      2. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Fuck off you leftist pandering nitwit.

        You were wrong. You justified being wrong as you didnt have the facts. No you ignored the facts while attacking those who recognized the facts and were proven right again when more facts appeared.

        Leftist shit.

      3. Super Scary   2 years ago

        "On major difference I see between Reason and the commentariat is that one changes its tune as new information and facts come to light, while the other stubbornly sticks to its guns no matter what."

        When those "stubborn" people were right the first place, why wouldn't they stick to their guns?

    2. Sevo   2 years ago

      "...ENB, frankly, either doesn’t know what she is talking about, or she is lying..."
      "...You lie..."
      "...But this is straight lies. Provably false assertions. This is the thing you claimed to oppose when you supported private censorship. This is misinformation meant to mislead the public on important matters of state..."

      Can't be said often enough. ENB lies in print before your eyes; ENB is a liar, period.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        But that's how she joornalisms.

  48. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    I wonder if we'll see calls for windfall profits taxes on pharma.

    https://science.slashdot.org/story/23/01/11/1529204/moderna-ceo-400-price-hike-on-covid-vaccine-consistent-with-the-value?sbsrc=md
    Moderna CEO: 400% Price Hike on COVID Vaccine 'Consistent With the Value'

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Who can put a price on myocarditis?

    2. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago (edited)

      I’ll never quite get over seeing the same crowd who screamed and cried over the citizens united case now simping and bending over for big pharma. It’s amazing to watch.

      1. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

        Especially given they are the same crowd that has wailed constantly about big pharma for the last few decades.

        1. Utkonos   2 years ago

          Not-So-Constant Gardeners?

    3. Chumby   2 years ago

      Uber ride to clinic: $8
      Syringe: $17
      Vaccine: $80
      Nurse’s billing rate: $100
      Knowing your heart will never be healthy again? Priceless
      For everything else, there is Myocard.

      1. Ajsloss   2 years ago (edited)

        “You're not allowed to leave your home without it.” -The science experts

        1. Moonrocks   2 years ago

          The return of Russian Express.

      2. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Okay. Can I print this out and frame it?

        1. Chumby   2 years ago (edited)

          Photoshop it. Use the Pfizer logo instead of Mastercard. Make the name John Doe. Maybe play with the expiration date implying impending death…”two weeks” might work if it could fit; has the double meaning. You could clean up the list and prices. That was a 1-minute effort post so it could be improved.

          1. Nardz   2 years ago

            Now is when I wish I was a photoshop/memer

    4. Eeyore   2 years ago

      This is good. It should cost a lot and government should not pay for it.

  49. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    "The Consumer Product Safety Commission chair says the agency has no intention of banning gas stoves, despite rumors to the contrary"

    Just like the short-lived Biden Ministry of Truth, initial public response will force them to find a less overt policy implementation.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Gas stove tax.

  50. Sevo   2 years ago

    "...It's pretty clear that Twitter's decision to suppress the story—ultimately a wrong decision, albeit also a very short-lived one—was very much a product of people trying to avoid repeating the mistakes of 2016..."

    Is this a paid position, or simply the result of a dishonest, biased hack given access to the media?
    ENB is FoS. Fuck off and die, shitbag.

  51. Nardz   2 years ago

    Know what ENB is.

    https://twitter.com/TRHLofficial/status/1613557389449371649?t=kV3-FqMeYy-UHRTydNQ11g&s=19

    [Quote]

    1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

      Seriously dude? All you do is dehumanize "the left" to a point where murder is morally equivalent to swatting mosquitos.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Like clumps of cells?

      2. Cyto   2 years ago

        Are you actually going to claim that the top blurb is anything less than straight propaganda?

        Make that case.

        No honest person who works in the media and who prepares daily links and who sees the scrum in the comments could possibly write that blurb with "I am giving an honest analysys" as a position. The lies come thick and heavy. The smears are loud and obvious. The demuring of huge felonies because they cut the wrong way is too overt.

        It is not "dehumanizing" to call out a fox in the henhouse.

        There is no connection between the NAP and "democrats can control the press and the online communication forums and use the power of the state to attack their political enemies and it is just fine, but Republicans are dangerous if they dare to talk about what the democrats are doing".

        Even if you were not a libertarian publication it would not be an honest position.

        It is unbridled, unfiltered and ultimately unhinged propaganda.

        And you quite clearly know it, as is demonstrated by your responses thus far.

        1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

          My comment was strictly about Nardz dehumanizing the left. Not whatever you're yammering on about.

          1. Cyto   2 years ago

            He said it was propaganda, using a meme.

            It is in point of fact, propaganda.

        2. Sevo   2 years ago

          You are dealing with one of the most dishonest, lying piles of shit to post here; you will NOT get an honest response.

          1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

            Sarc is like one of those tubes-of-jelly toys which used to be a thing; poke here, he pops up elsewhere. Never consistent, no spine, not even fun after a few pokes show no change.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              Whack-A-Mole used to be the popular game. You'd use a mallet to hit the mole that popped up back down. Only problem was, you'd get another one or two popping up right afterward.

            2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

              My spine is harder than your mom's morning wood.

              1. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

                That you believe women have morning wood explains much about your current psychosis. Maybe try the Matt Walsh documentary or some detox, internet or otherwise.

                1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                  That new show Wednesday on Netflix was surprisingly good. Have you watched it?

              2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago (edited)

                So, in other words, you have none. (Think about how your comment reads/sounds.)

                1. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)

                  You guys are so terrible at logic and math. It’s pathetic, actually.

                  Edit: perhaps we're piling absurdity onto absurdity.

                  1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

                    Maybe we should have spent more time coked out, drunk, and homeless so we too could be at your level of intelligence and self awareness.

    2. Nardz   2 years ago

      Lying in an effort to brainwash people into psychosis, in which their perception is completely dominated by malicious fiction instead of reality, is aggression.
      Change my mind.

  52. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

    The Consumer Product Safety Commission chair says the agency has no intention of banning gas stoves, despite rumors to the contrary:

    That's exactly what someone who wants to ban gas stoves would say!

  53. creech   2 years ago

    One may try to keep an open mind on such investigations, allegations, hearings, etc. But, without the ability to hear testimony under penalty of perjury and with vigorous questioning and cross-examination by counsel, how can one come to a conclusion?
    The J6 investigation was terribly flawed by being one-sided. Was there competent cross examination of witnesses (e.g. Ray Epps), or witnesses called who may have testified against the narrative? Let the GOP investigate away, but do it properly so that, under oath, all relevant people may testify and evidence be submitted.

    1. Sevo   2 years ago

      Call Adam Schiff to the stand, swear him in, and have him exp-lain how he used his power to do this:

      "How Democrat Adam Schiff abused his power to demand I be kicked off Twitter simply due to a personal vendetta"
      https://nypost.com/2023/01/06/how-democrat-adam-schiff-abused-his-power-to-demand-i-be-kicked-off-twitter/

  54. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/VDAREJamesK/status/1613403373142966273?t=o3IG5pO42ZMpFmX7isQqCg&s=19

    Unironically history's greatest monsters.

    [Link]

  55. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/Neoavatara/status/1613567514843258881

    Don't forget that the Biden people knew this classified documents case was going to blows up before the election... And they HID IT FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ON PURPOSE.

    1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

      https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1613565691994447872

      Doocy: "Classified materials next to your corvette? What were you thinking?

      Biden: "My corvette is in a locked garage."

      He then struggles to read off a script

      1. Cyto   2 years ago

        I thought that was a weird parody.

        Nope. He actually just admitted that he kept classified documents in his garage.

        His speechwriters must be having the best time.....

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          "Don't underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up."
          - Barack Obama

          1. Cyto   2 years ago

            Worse... he was reading that from cue cards.

            Wrap your head around that! They took a couple of days to ponder how to spin it... and his team wrote that bit about "locked garage with my corvette" as their best spin.

            1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

              No he was off script. When Peter Ducey questioned him later he actually said "well my garage was locked. It's not like they were out on the street.

    2. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      The thing is, i could give a shit about "classified documents" but anyone who was hyperventilating and cheering over the Mar-a-Lago raid and now poo-pooing this has reached new levels of team-support hypocrisy I never thought possible.

      Same goes for the reverse. If y ou brushed off the Mar-a-Lago raid and are now hyperventilating over Biden's classified docs you need to understand that you are an NPC. The "gotcha" is delicious but actually caring about the classified docs gaffe is just ridiculous.

      1. Sevo   2 years ago

        "Same goes for the reverse. If y ou brushed off the Mar-a-Lago raid and are now hyperventilating over Biden’s classified docs you need to understand that you are an NPC. The “gotcha” is delicious but actually caring about the classified docs gaffe is just ridiculous..."

        Not quite:
        1. Trump was POTUS at the time, and had the clear authority to declassify anything he pleased; a VP is given no such authority.
        2. Trump had the documents in room under secure protection.

        1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          "a VP is given no such authority."

          This is the difference that needs to be continually emphasized.

          1. Sevo   2 years ago

            Instead, it is ignored, like the Twitter story.

            1. mad.casual   2 years ago

              AFAICT, worse. Somehow, EO 13526, enacted under Barack Obama allows Biden to telepathically declassify/reclassify documents as they enter and leave his garage or office closet but *doesn't* grant the same to President Trump entering/leaving the WH/Mar-a-lago.

              Like taking a shovel full of dirt from the bottom of the hole we're standing in and flinging it up/out/at Trump somehow gets anyone out of any given hole rather than just digging closer to China.

              1. Sevo   2 years ago

                "AFAICT, worse. Somehow, EO 13526, enacted under Barack Obama allows Biden to telepathically declassify/reclassify documents as they enter and leave his garage or office closet but *doesn’t* grant the same to President Trump entering/leaving the WH/Mar-a-lago..."

                Dave A, Sarc, Mike and ObviouslyNotSpam (remember that short-lived propagandist?) agree!

        2. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

          And Trump's security, as an ex-P, included the Secret Service. Biden was ex-VP for four years and had no such SS protection that I am aware of.

          1. Sevo   2 years ago

            If he did, they'd have to have been stationed at that 'unused' foundation office, and his garage.

            1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

              Hadn't thought of that! Sheesh, double unprotected. ENB has even more to ignore, her head must be hurting by now.

      2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        It’s not about the documents, it’s the bald hypocrisy on display.

        1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

          I explicitly acknowledge that the gotcha on the hypocrites is fun.

          But caring at ALL about the "classified docs" (which are all bullshit and should not be kept secret in the first place) is NPC behavior.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

            But caring at ALL about the “classified docs” (which are all bullshit and should not be kept secret in the first place)

            Eh, I don't really have a problem with commies like the Rosenbergs getting zapped for leaking nuclear secrets, and we definitely shouldn't be letting Chink nationalists into places like Los Alamos.

            We already have enough of a problem with the fallout of the Clintons selling military tech to China for campaign funds, we certainly don't need to give our adversaries open access to anything they want. They certainly wouldn't give us the same courtesy.

          2. Nardz   2 years ago

            Depends on what those documents were and who they were shared with.
            In a vacuum, you're correct.
            In the context of an executive whose bribery at the hands of foreign powers is now indisputable fact... less so.

            Primary importance here is the clear corruption and unequal application of the law.
            This is why I say "there are no rules, just weapons"- the law itself now is nothing more than a weapon to be wielded against enemies, not a restraint on action at all.
            Currently, only the left/establishment accepts this. No laws/rules restrain them, and exist only to inflict harm upon their enemies (which includes the American people).
            The left/establishment will only get worse the longer you pretend we live in a just world with civilized solutions.

          3. Cyto   2 years ago

            I am kinda with you....

            Except they went with armed raids and criminal probes using the full force of the US government.

            You can't claim "if you point at Biden and say what about him you are a hypocrite" when the issue was never documents in the first place. The issue was and is "the establishment machine is going to do whatever it can to get Trump ". That is the thread that corrupts everything.

            That is what they were doing when they spied on Trump's campaign. That was what they were doing when they framed Papadopolus and Flynn et. al. Real people had their lives ruined because these people made up lies to try to block a political outsider from upsetting their game.

            That is what the NY attorney General pledged to do... Get Trump and everyone around him. No crime alleged. Just "get him " using the full power of the state.

            That is what they were doing when they raided James O'Keefe. Gotta protect old Joe so that Trump can't win.

            That is what they were doing when they covered up a huge bribery scandal in order to protect Biden. They corrupted the press and the social media platforms so terribly that they damaged public trust beyond repair. It was so dishonest and so nakedly partisan, you had to put forth the efforts of Winston Smitj to avoid seeing it. And many did, which is even more dangerous.

            "Classified docs" is merely a vehicle. Classified Docs is "connections to a Russian server" is "colluding with Russia " is "Facebook memes" is "tX returns" is "stolen laptop" is "white supremacist blocked a peaceful native elder" is, is, is......

            Lie upon lie the propaganda is built.

            "Epstein was a terrible predator.... too bad we don't know who was paying for it"

            They are all of a kind. All in service of Establishment Power.

            That is the through line.

            Not "super worried about documents" versus "don't care about documents"

            1. Nardz   2 years ago

              ^

              There is no way to negotiate with the forces who perpetrate, and support, the above.
              There is no way to live and let live.
              They intend to destroy you.

        2. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

          Not hypocrisy but hierarchy. Rules don't apply to them, just to you.

      3. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

        Exactly my feelings. It's probably a symptom of the overclassification of standard work documents, and government classifying everything to get around the Freedom of Information Act. But if you're going to have a freak-out about how Trump was "mishandling" documents by keeping them in a securely locked room with security cameras and under Secret Service protection, documents sitting in a box in a freaking garage next to your car is even worse.

        We'll wait and see just how much the media is willing to call Biden out as incompetent for this.

        1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

          I can answer that for you.... none. They are none willing.

          1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

            I eagerly await Sullum's next entry.

          2. Utkonos   2 years ago

            Well, CACKLE CACKLE, not for now there aren’t!

      4. Moonrocks   2 years ago (edited)

        The suspicious link to billions in communist Chinese cash is a legitimate concern, especially in the context of all the other Biden bribe scandals.

      5. JesseAz   2 years ago

        One side is using it to disqualify and arrest a political opponent.

        The other is using it to point out the hypocrisy.

        It is not a both sides issue. I haven't seen one person ask to arrest Joe. I've seen far more call out the double standard of NARA and the DoJ.

        1. Cyto   2 years ago

          I watched a clip from Fox with Gutfeld talking about it. He did a bit where he feigned outrage and started parroting all of the left's demands (remember the history professor who said that Trump should be executed for having those documents?) Then he breaks character and laughs... "I can't do it with a straight face... see, we don't do that. We don't go there like they do..."

          1. Nardz   2 years ago

            "we don’t do that. We don’t go there like they do…”

            And they know that.
            They rely on that.
            And they intend to keep using that to destroy us.

          2. Super Scary   2 years ago

            " (remember the history professor who said that Trump should be executed for having those documents?) "

            I remember certain commenters on this very site saying the same thing.

      6. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

        So it's not possible to hold the left to their own standards? Sorry, but given the leftist view on what is impeachable and criminal then this qualifies and should be shoved in their face with the same vehemence they put behind their hoaxes.

        That is different from thinking any of this is unusual and maybe even different from thinking there is anything improper in either case (we don't have the details for either). You cannot hold only one side to standards you can expect one side to accept peace if offered in terms that are not capitulation.

  56. Sevo   2 years ago

    We have at least two stories here and ENB is either too stupid or too dishonest to deal with either one:
    1. Data on Hunter Biden's laptop suggests strongly that he and his father used his father's position to illegally enrich themselves.
    2. Agents of the federal government used their power to withhold that information from the public in the time leading up to a presidential election in which Biden was a candidate.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      At this juncture, I'm going with dishonest. She's had plenty of time, and if she bothered to look at the comments, plenty of discussion about the laptop and about the censorship.

  57. MWAocdoc   2 years ago

    I really do wish that we had a government that wasn't intimately caught up in the culture wars or worse - instigating them. I also wish the two parties weren't totally preoccupied with bashing each other instead of governing in the best interests of the liberty of the American people. But since they are (and perhaps we should count our blessings that they are NOT getting as much done recently as they COULD do to us) it doesn't make any sense to expect that the Republicans would suffer the slings and arrows of endless "hearings" at the hands of the Democrats for over two years without some "turnabout is fair play" with their turn at bat over the next two years.

    1. Dillinger   2 years ago

      >>weren’t totally preoccupied with bashing each other

      is how they get your money and never solve the problems they create.

    2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      Evidence of bribery and evidence of the evidence being suppressed by the FBI isn't exactly "culture warz".

      1. Utkonos   2 years ago

        Mistakes have been made, I Grant you.

    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago (edited)

      I find these complaints about “divisiveness” to be tedious and wholly insincere, especially when they bring up the culture war shibboleth. When the parties actually work together, it’s typically because they’ve agreed on ways to fuck us over for their benefit.

      But more to the point, if you value democratic systems, then tribalism is part of the package. It’s inevitable when you have a system that accommodates people with differing political views, and is only really slightly mitigated to the extent that cultural hegemony exists. The closest we’ve ever been to united as a country was World War II, not just because it was an existential conflict, but because there was a dominant cultural consensus as to what it meant to be an American during that time, and also featured extremely discriminatory laws that limited voting and basic civil rights for blacks. We don’t have the luxury of a clear sense of national identity right now, and probably haven’t since the Berlin Wall toppled and the neo-marxists and New Left in academia started going full-bore on attacking and subverting the nation’s cultural foundations. Indeed, the left has gone whole-hog in trying to create as many tribes as possible that they can recruit as foot soldiers against their Straight White Male enemies (there's a very specific political purpose to claiming that gender is a social construct and that identities are infinite and transcend biology, for instance).

      If you don’t want a culture war or limited political disagreement, then you need to accept that democracy and diversity has to be limited, too.

      1. JimboJr   2 years ago

        And nothing the left does is ever divisive.

        Bending over backwards to make sure kids are sitting through lectures from drag queens and talking about sex acts isnt divisive at all. Shoving their chosen religion in kids faces, against parents' will, that isnt divisive

        But if a teacher were to fucking mention prayer...god help them

      2. Moonrocks   2 years ago

        if you value democratic systems, then tribalism is part of the package.

        To a point, in the same way that tribalism is necessarily part of the package when emotionally investing in professional sports. And people supporting rival political teams used to be able to get along as well as people supporting rival sportsball teams when the last election had as much bearing on day-to-day life as last Sunday's football game.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          The late 19th and early 20th century saw some of the most chaotic socio-political conflicts in American history, and it was in no small part due to the waves of immigration that were taking place. Marxism starts to take root in the country during that time, with massive labor strikes and government pushback taking place that included murder and assassination of strikers and their organizers.

          Things don't really start to settle down until the 1920s, and that was due to concerted efforts to finally clamp down on subversive leftist organizations like the IWW, coupled with extremely restrictive immigration laws that established a cultural hegemony. To the extent that the US didn't completely collapse during the Depression isn't just because of New Deal programs that put a lot of unemployed men to work, it was because those subversive elements had been supressed while the immigration door closing to a crack allowed the country to cement a national identity in place. Their were strikes, but not to the intensity that they happened in during the turn of the century.

          If these things hadn't happened, the US likely would have been completely fucked when World War II broke out, as even those who opposed American involvement were mostly on the margins, and that all swept away after Pearl Harbor. We would have been far too divided.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

            It should also be noted that another period where marxist sentiment, ethnic nationalism, and challenges to the WW2 American consensus were ascendant, during the late 60s-mid-70s, was incredibly violent as well--not just with protests, but radical leftists bombing, kidnapping, and murdering on a regular basis.

        2. creech   2 years ago

          Don't know when that was. And treating elections as having no consequence is how we arrived in today's nannystate mess.

    4. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Politics is downstream of culture.

      1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

        I wish more people understood this. Society and culture are bottom-up spontaneous results of individuals interacting. Politicians are almost always reactive, jumping on bandwagons. Calling them "leaders" only shows ignorance. The only "followers" they have are short-lived and will "follow" somebody else as soon as their "leader" takes the wrong fork.

        1. Nardz   2 years ago

          "Society and culture are bottom-up spontaneous results of individuals interacting."

          Not in the Information Age of the progressive era.
          Progressivism is state supremacist centrally planned social engineering.
          It is fundamentally elitist, and misanthropic.
          The Ds are following right along in the footsteps of Stalin, Hitler, and Mao.
          They now have the means, the immense reach of tech, to create culture in a completely inorganic and programmed way.

  58. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>Joe Biden was in on the game. There is evidence for the former, and not for the latter.

    interesting is the transcript available from this trial I missed?

  59. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>What went wrong with the Federal Aviation Administration's Notice to Air Mission system yesterday?

    why did Canada's also go down and who hacked them, Pete?

  60. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

    "Don't Let the House Hunter Biden Investigation Become a Russiagate-Style Search for Election Excuses"

    The NPCs latest patch downloaded: Talking Points Have Gone Out On Biden’s Document Scandal.

    Hat tip Sarah Hoyt.

    1. Cyto   2 years ago

      Ok ENB.

      You have been called out.

      DNC shills everywhere are using the same phrases you used this morning.

      Time for honesty. Time to do some real reporting. You have personal knowledge of an important national story.

      *How did you receive the talking points you transcribed this morning?*

      Who told you what to say. Why did you do what they said? How often do you get such instruction?

      It is clear, this was unquestionably an orchestrated spin campaign. It is without doubt sourced from the same group that is at the top of all of the Twitter files manipulations.

      So tell the truth!

      What is your source?

      Are you just a weak-minded simp who repeats whatever influential blue checkmark say? Or are you on the group chat getting your instruction directly from the FBI or DNC or whoever?

      You did not magically think of the same bundle of lies as everyone else at precisely the same time. So what gives?

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

        What is your source?

        Twitter. Same as every other journolist.

        1. Cyto   2 years ago

          I want to hear her say it.

          Did she just wait for her friends on Twitter? If so, why repeat it when it is so obviously a lie? Just personal bias? Or is there more?

          That crowd is thoroughly discredited. A smart person would have a better reason for parroting the propaganda line than "because I hate Trump ".

          I want to hear it and judge the veracity of the confessional for myself.

          I want to know the lever points. Is it really a network of gullible and malleable sycophants who are so easily manipulated into going with the crowd? Or is there more to it?

          You cannot root this nonsense out if you don't know what it is in truth.

          1. Nardz   2 years ago

            It's a programmed hivemind.

          2. JasonAZ   2 years ago

            "Did she just wait for her friends on Twitter? If so, why repeat it when it is so obviously a lie? Just personal bias? Or is there more?"

            She's a shameless hack that will use her position of power to protect her far left progressive comrades.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      The recovery from Trump of highly sensitive documents pertaining to national security—including ones related to nuclear secrets—came after more than a year of requests,

      I see Yahoo News is still peddling the nuclear secrets lie.

      1. Nardz   2 years ago

        "Related to"

      2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        "still peddling the nuclear secrets lie."

        SRG was doing that here yesterday.

  61. damikesc   2 years ago

    Joe is now saying he left the documents in a locked garage with his Corvette. So much safer than Mar a Lago I have to imagine with, I assume, tons of cameras and Secret Service guys around it.

    1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      OMG, thought you were joking. That’s pretty bad.

      1. damikesc   2 years ago

        Thought it was a joke when I first heard it as well.

        1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

          Especially after all the articles The Onion used to do about Biden and his Trans Am:

          https://www.theonion.com/shirtless-biden-washes-trans-am-in-white-house-driveway-1819570732

  62. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

    Nooooooooooooo! You took the wrong Jeff!

  63. JimboJr   2 years ago

    Predictable, as always.

    When the left does it, we have to spend 4+ years in hysterics about how the imaginary boogeymen somehow subverted democracy

    But when the FBI purposefully tries to tip the scales in a razor thin election, its "hey can we just forget all this blame-game finger pointing and be friends? Lets stop all the silly talk about who or what did or didn't affect elections!"

    Same tired shit. When the right is being attacked its fine to go along with it for years, and as soon as the left gets attacked its both sides are bad and lets just forget it and move on.

    Fuck you, sleep in the bed you shit in

    1. Super Scary   2 years ago

      "But when the FBI purposefully tries to tip the scales in a razor thin election, its “hey can we just forget all this blame-game finger pointing and be friends? Lets stop all the silly talk about who or what did or didn’t affect elections!”"

      I also recall that short-lived call for "Covid amnesty" from the people that wanted the unvaxxed to be unpersoned in every way they could think of.

  64. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

    prevent public officials and their family members from using public office to enrich themselves.

    Isn't that the whole point of seeking public office in the first place?

    1. Eeyore   2 years ago

      I think so.

      1. The Margrave of Azilia   2 years ago

        No, some are worse. Some are idealists.

  65. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

    The documents reveal Twitter executives engaged in ample deliberation and debate about how to handle the story, primed by warnings from the (Trump-era) Justice Department about the possibility of fake news being spread by foreign adversaries.

    Oh well then, nothing to see here I guess. Holy fucking hell...

  66. Dillinger   2 years ago

    also do you need a music guy? seems like someone should have dropped a line about Jeff Beck.

    1. tracerv   2 years ago

      Been playing his stuff all morning (in mourning).

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        ya #metoo. dude's aura was bigger than any building I ever saw him in. also I see Mother's Lament posted the link a couple comments north of this.

        1. tracerv   2 years ago

          https://youtu.be/bCC9G_7n_nc

          May on Beck.

  67. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

    And now that food prices have skyrocketed due to the pandemic and the Russian invasion of Ukraine, adding to the hunger and environmental crises already afflicting the world

    Let's just tip-toe right past the role that various government policies have played in increasing food prices. "It's all the pandemic and Russia's fault! Now eat your Soylent Green, live in your pod, and zone out in virtual reality/ Metaverse with drool running down your chin while you own nothing and be happy... or else, peasant!"

  68. mad.casual   2 years ago

    Just imagine for a moment that you could save the world with chicken nuggets.

    ROFLMAO! OK, you can stop! You don't have to go any further. My sides hurt already. Saving the world with chicken nuggets is a way better joke, prima facie and out-of-the-gate than saving the world by getting rid of Brawndo. You've successfully rebutted and surpassed Idiocracy in one sentence. Whew! [wipes tear]... BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

    1. mad.casual   2 years ago

      Pffssst! An adult actually said, in 2023, "Just imagine you can save the world with chicken nuggets!" at the first line in their elevator pitch... [snort][snort][snort].

    2. mad.casual   2 years ago

      [gurgle voice] Saving the world with chicken nuggets! It's like a 3rd Grader running for student government!

    3. mad.casual   2 years ago

      [deep breath][sigh] OK... "To be sure, solutions that sound so simple should be approached with caution." AH Fuck! AHAHAHAHAHAHAH. Stop! I'm getting a headache!

  69. Brian   2 years ago

    After Russiagate, I think republicans are entitled to a few years worth of witch hunt shenanigans.

    1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

      Two wrongs make a Republican right.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        You really have become a leftist shill. You don't see any difference in the two situations? Youre fine with fascism of the left.

      2. Cyto   2 years ago

        What possible defense do you have for saying that investigating a rogue group of democrats high up in the CIA and FBI and CDC and NSF and DOS and DOD, etc who have been using government resources to control and censor the news and the speech of individual Americans would be a wrong?

        Please, defend that! These are massive threats, not made up accusations. We know to an absolute certainty that the democrat caucus in congress and the group in the FBI and CIA et al were working closely with Googe and Facebook and Twitter and the NYT and CNN and etc to plant fake stories and suppress real stories with the explicit purpose of altering the outcome of US elections.

        What possible rationalization have you built for "this is not important, there is no legitimate reason to look into this. "?

        Partisan blinders are a powerful thing, but damn....

        1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

          Try as you may, try as you might, me defending these assholes is nowhere in sight.

          1. Super Scary   2 years ago

            Bring up your sports team analogy, maybe it'll work this time!

            1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

              Whatever you say, Beta. I'll strut my Sigma on the sidelines.

          2. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

            Right, you just attack anyone who goes at them. Because you're a coward with no principles or convictions which has just enough functioning brain cells to not outright defend the indefensible every time, you'll just attack those attacking your team.

        2. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

          Cyto, I am all about accountability. If the people who did this are not held to account, nothing really matters anymore, does it?

      3. Brian   2 years ago

        Fairs fair. I’m certainly not going to throw up my hands in exasperation and wonder how anyone could do such a thing, since I’ve been watching this show for six years. It’s basically jumped the shark and is now rehashing old plot lines just with different, yet old, characters at the center.

      4. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        It would be something if one of the major parties held itself to a higher standard, but that’s fantasyland.

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Just pathetic. Accept democrats utilizing the weapon of government! Don't investigate! If you do youre as bad as them!

        2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          What standard would that be?

          1. Sevo   2 years ago

            That's Mike; no standards at all, just stupidity.

        3. sarcasmic   2 years ago

          If you take the moral high ground you lose on the battlefield.

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            What moral high ground? Turning a blind eye to one side subverting the levers of government but then calling out the other the moment they start investigating the subversion?

            You two are pathetic.

        4. Super Scary   2 years ago

          How about the team that started it take their deserved lumps and then they can both get back into the business of ruining the lives of the people under them.

        5. Brian   2 years ago

          If there was such a party with a chance to do that, it would be republicans, but they blew it. Sad. Now both parties have low standards. Oh well.

          1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

            So what you're saying is that if Republicans didn't investigate the CIA, FBI, DHS, CDC, NSF, Biden Administration, etc. controlling and censoring the news and the speech of individual Americans, that would be principled?

            That's utterly insane. It was fascism and grossly illegal. You can't ignore that because you're morally posturing.

            You know what would have been principled? If uninvolved Democrats were incensed and called for investigations and indictments. That would have been operating at a higher standard.

            The fact that you and Mike want to bury it instead and say "let bygones be bygones" tells us everything we need to know about you.

            1. Sevo   2 years ago

              "...The fact that you and Mike want to bury it instead and say “let bygones be bygones” tells us everything we need to know about you."

              And it is NOT complimentary. Fuck off and die, Brian.

    2. Utkonos   2 years ago

      Witch hunt shenanigans? Under McCarthy? Get outta town!

  70. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

    "What do you think about meat grown in a lab? Would you eat it? Will your grandchildren?" asks Conor Friedersdorf at The Atlantic.

    Quoting the Atlantic. What an embarassment. And Conor Friedersdorf no less.

    1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      Oh, jeez, come on. I get that The Atlantic is very liberally biased but this is an apolitical topic. We can’t stay apolitical on apolitical topics?

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        It’s not apolitical. They want to eliminate livestock.

      2. Overt   2 years ago

        Mike is here to argue that meat eating is not a political topic. Absolutely no one is working in the political sphere to force people off of meat and onto plant-based diets, right?

        Don't worry, people. Mike knows he is full of shit. He says this stuff hoping that a lurker or drive by commenter isn't paying attention. He is here to spread dismissive quips, not actual facts.

      3. Chumby   2 years ago

        Steakholders have a beef with your bullshit.

  71. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

    the allure of raw milk

    Not saying "There Oughtta Be A Law,". but no. Hell no!

    Farmers, hippies, health nuts, and crunchy cons—the conservative writer Rod Dreher's term for GOP voters who also wear Birkenstocks and shop at farmer's markets—have been drinking raw milk for decades.

    So that explains Rod Dreher. He's like Lewis Grizzard's character Alvin Bates who ate church fans. It turns out he and his family were stoned on poisoned buttermilk the whole time.

  72. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    Let's just consider this thread a place of silent reflection.

    1. Dillinger   2 years ago

      how did I do? four hours of silence is more than I can usually take

      1. Joe Brandon   2 years ago

        5/7

  73. Mike Laursen   2 years ago (edited)

    “”What do you think about meat grown in a lab? Would you eat it?”

    Sure. Why not give it a try.

    Like I’ve said before, nobody seems to be doing it, but lab-grown chicken broth could be really easy to make. I use broth all the time in various dishes.

    Also, it’s an opportunity to genetically engineer new types of meat. They could try to make something that tastes better than any naturally-grown meat.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      … but lab-grown chicken broth could be really easy to make

      Cite?

    2. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

      The lab grown meat brought up an interesting question of halakah: Can lab grown bacon be kosher? The answer is yes. Does that mean that OU will certify lab grown bacon as kosher? Nope, not happening.

  74. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

    Umm, umm, this one leaves me speechless. We live in an odd, odd world:

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/trans-teacher-giant-prosthetic-breasts-causes-canadian-school-board-demand-dress-code-policy-change

    1. Chumby   2 years ago

      Can’t believe she had the balls to wear that outfit.

    2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago (edited)

      Way to bring up a months old story.

      Try to stay abreast of current events.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Mike is so slow on the uptake that it must be a titillating story now.

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago (edited)

          He is such a boob.

    3. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

      In all seriousness, I've wondered if this person is intentionally trolling and heavily committing to the character. It's hard to tell if this is real because it's always seemed like performance art.

      1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        Had the same thought.

    4. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)

      I always thought that was an opportunity for a clever physics teacher to ask funny questions.

      1. Chumby   2 years ago

        Objects at breast tend to stay at breast?

  75. Truthteller1   2 years ago

    It's impossible to find legitimate comments because of the circle jerk from the regular pencil dicks. Start your own fucking forum or maybe get a life.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Awwww.

    2. Sevo   2 years ago

      Thank you, Bullshitter 1!
      Oh, and fuck off and die.

    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      Maybe take your own fucking advice, you dumb eunuch.

    4. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      "Start your own fucking forum or maybe get a life."

      Remember when Sarcasmic made a huge deal about leaving this place for the Glibs and saying he'd never ever come back, and then when he went he was immediately banned for trolling, and was back here shitposting before even a fortnight had passed.

      The guy's a living cartoon character.

  76. SteveJ 2   2 years ago (edited)

    The perversion seems to start with an open-ended definition of “election interference.”

    This appears to be anything on the Internet that persuades (or so it’s claimed) someone to consider voting a certain way. Well, not “persuades”…..rather dupes. Rather, exerts mind-control over the electorate to vote in a way the person using this definition of “election interference” does not like.

    Election interference is tampering with votes in some way. That is all it is. It isn’t anything else.

    With that established, censorship ought to be seen by these self-described elites for what it is. (But then, these self-described elites think they have untapped enlightenment the rest of us can only dream of.) So perhaps not.

  77. Liberty Lover   2 years ago

    It is a Joe Biden corruption investigation. But it will be real not this:
    Russia Collusion Hoax
    Hands Up, Don’t Shoot Hoax
    Jussie Smollett Hoax
    Covington KKKids Hoax
    Very Fine People Hoax
    Seven-Hour Gap Hoax
    Global Warming Hoax
    Russian Bounties Hoax
    Trump Trashes Troops Hoax
    Policemen Killed at Mostly Peaceful January 6 Protest Hoax
    Rittenhouse Hoax
    Eating While Black Hoax
    Border Agents Whipping Illegals Hoax
    NASCAR Noose Hoax
    The Georgia Jim Crow 2.0 Hoax
    Trump Assaulted Secret Service Agents and Grabbed Steering
    Wheel of Beast Hoax
    Frame MAGA for Alleged Paul Pelosi Assault Narrative

  78. TJJ2000   2 years ago

    ENB can't seem to figure out what upholding the US Constitution against treasonous politicians means I guess. She must think this is all about attacking the Bidens because of campaign advertising that the Republicans didn't like???? Oh right; that's what the left does - blames everything else on exactly what they themselves do. Self-Projection onto others.

    1. Bill Falcon   2 years ago

      She is focused on her career in the bolshie media....getting on the Sunday propaganda fest..she has made it..the inner widh of all Reason writers...NBC, CBS, ABC, NYT, Wapo..you know the bolshie media..who hate libertarians.

  79. Sevo   2 years ago

    New stash of classified docs found at Biden house today. What's the current over/under?

  80. Bill Falcon   2 years ago

    Sorry ENB...the FBI knew Hunter Biden's PC was not a Russian plant yet they told the pedo protecting Bolshie "true and censorshop" folks at Twitter that it was Russian. the FBI lied to a news organization to throw an election to one party. that alone is worth investigating and criminal charges. It all needs to come out..all of it including Epstein's john's.

    1. Sevo   2 years ago

      "...all of it including Epstein’s john’s."

      Bubba will be out of the country for an extended stay; Polanski's got a spare room.

  81. Bill Falcon   2 years ago

    Locked Garage Biden....your boy ENB...your boy

  82. Minadin   2 years ago

    I just want to know if the Feds found a noose in his garage, or if it turned out to just be the release pull for the garage door.

  83. travelraval   2 years ago

    great

  84. RAYNHAM   2 years ago

    13.1.23. REASON SITE FROM UK.TWITTER.LOCK EM UP. It may or may not be of interest to the public to know that Twitter and all the other social media have been destroying our evidence as has the UK Police etc. unlike folks on here we have no redress. For the confused heres the background. (try walkin in our shoes. The following is entered on another REASON page. We are impressed by the open ness and very very well designed site.heres what we have promised-
    13.1.23.REASON.COM. A US WEBSITE. Sworn Statements.Its time to WAKE UP. A story about fate/destiny. From a dangerous UK.Dont read it as if it was a seed catalogue. Dont scan it to find errors that you can use to try to ridicule the writers.The alarming and out of control issues at present in US are just part of the problems of the human being that have existed since day one. its time to face reality not just facts. Having spent 12 yrs accompanying victims traipsing thro Cent london knocking on doors and requesting benefial change and help we think we are just a bit more qualified to comment than a journalist sitting in an office picking out bits of news to suit own agenda and job prospects. We generated 1000pp witnessed evidence but attracted Police violence, death threats from HM Court system and violent threats from US Embassy re the dangerous US based security firms acting for UK Govt in UK. Those firms have a history of shotting or beating to death US workers in the good old days, etc etc.Their names are- Burnes/Pinkertons. The crime reports we gave to Police re the abuse of ourselves was erased from UK Police Computers.Heres some of the evidence gathered-over the twelve years incl the visits we made with two huge cases of evidence about avoid deaths and police attacks on ourselves to many orgs which included the home office and three political orgs the people we encountered were so dangerous that had we not taken on board bodyguards we would net now be alive. We found that the establ are using a compliant police to suppress issues that the establ wanted to hide. A religion in this area sent round the Police who wiped the lunch plates off our laps then told us we would be arrested if we picked up the food. They the Police are Mentaly Ill. Many have Firearm Certificates.. Using bodyguard protection improved things in a dramatic way particularly when we went round the 'Diana' HM coroner at Fulham where we reported the antics of the Horseferry road HM coroner and the manipulation of the cases where the police beat to death the clients who sadly never found us. Because of what we havediscovered now want home office minister / mp berks Mrs May sacked and other resignations. We also demand they pay back the squandered money .When we took two cases of evidence round the London EEC Office they told us that nothing could be done about corruption and 1000 avoid deaths, we were advised to go round the Home Office.They gave us two huge bags leaflets which were all lies so we put them in a bin. We then went to the Hm and told them the EEC office had sent us we sat there 3 hours waiting to be seen but no one would come out from behind locked doors. At 17.00 they put all the lights out and started locking all the doors. if we had got out they would have locked us in. On the wall was a huge sign saying that they deeply care about the public.The police violence against us here has failed Mr Commissioner Police Hardwick.County Of Lincs Police.. And now we are going to expose uk policing and the other scandals in Lincs and other areas door by door if nec.We have come a long long way since we were given rides on the horses at Horseferry road London SW1 police station. Little did we know we would be back there uncovering corruption in the HM coroners dept which is yards away. We turned up at that office because we found out they had been protecting the Police from prosecution particularly re anything to do with the killing of Mental Health patients of a clueless local hospital which we moled. Whilst in that office they tried to push us off the chairs so we went outside and stood in a doorway opposite. We saw the staff hiding behind the curtains watching us so we pretended to leave the area and hid in another doorway, suddenly a whole load people came running out of the building and ran towards the station. The group comprised the Police who had killed the relative of the people accompanying them So those relatives had gone along with the establ and sold out on the dead person. That victim had been a patient at the dangerous Hospital that we moled. We had been getting clients from that place who had recd anything from 6-20yr of so called HM Psychiatry 'therapy' The clients did not need a more than 6 hours tactics that work. We got in there by pretending to be religous so they thought we were corrupt. The head shrink told us this- 'Competence Has No Value in Mental Health' The trade union members staff said this . 'She has Killed Loads people and is protected by local Police, local govt. press. religions. unions. HM Coroners and charities like 'Mind' and 'Samaritans'. and of course the HM MPs. Meanwhile the health system had told us that we were the only people in the Mental Health world who had sufficient skills.Then suddenly we began to get anonymous calls, no not from clients but from the system They told us not to open the door to any callers because there was a group of people going round arresting anyone who complained about Local Govt/Police/ Health. We half believed that. We were sent funeral services. Then one nite I forgot the warning, opened the door and the road was full of Police/ Ambulasnce/others. I was told I had to get into the Ambulance cos i was 'ill' The Police had a pocket knife bladee wedged in one of our window bars. They also said I must be ill cos I looked 'dirty'. What they failed to realise is I had just got back from helping one of their clients fix his car. This man had been a clent of the giant Hospital for about 8 yrs and had been confined to the dwelling by his Mental health state. We had about six months previous had done about 3 hours work on him when he got up grabbed a coat and disappeared into the nite. As he opened the inner door there was a thump and a woman was seen lying on here back in the hall. We were scared as we did know where he had gone, he returned after about 35 minutes and had been walking all round the area. A few weeks later we were outside and someone hooted at us, it was the client with his new purchae a car thats how we got draggecd into car repairs. I was annoyed cos we did the work free. Going back to the raid I told them all to clear off. We managed to get a handwriting sample of the woman issuing the threats and she was found to be suffering from mania yet was in control of local Mental Health issues. By now our heads were spinning and to cap it all I bumped into a man who, to my horror opened his case and inside was huge amounts litigation documents. I thought he might be nuts but two months later he hads completely changed the way i thought about HM Law etc. This man turned out to be a natural genius of epic proportions re strategy etc yet had little education. The system were so scared of him they arrested him and locked him in the Hospital which kills people Thet took away his grand daughter and the social system raped her.. It was him who advised us that victims had been searching for a non corrupt Lawyer and never found one in ten yrs.We now realised that manic corruption gripped the UK and the public not only ignored but supported it. At that time we also bumped into 3 Psychics in different area of UK in different circumstances. None of them were linked in any way. They did not have our address or vehicle details. They knew nothing about our activities in theory. All of them told us the same thing, that is what we would be doing. We were flabbergasted frightened and horrified cos its not what we had in mind. Meanwhile the MH system cut off communication and we were told to stop resolving the publics issue because we were causing job losses. We also found out that firms were being supplied MH patients as cheap labour. But it took us a further ten yrs to discover that behind the attacks on us was the Universities and Drug Companies backed by the establ. So far 17 universities are indicted re 1000s deaths. We are a Jewish family who had to escape similar tactics in Europe we lost a lot of relatives. We had no idea the UK was like it is. By the way when we went to the media to get help they told us this-'Nothing That You Have Found Can Ever Appear In Print' Facebook and other internet media have destroyed everything we have written. All our websites were destroyed. We can not get health help. This is the same tactics used in Germany in 1920-1945.The EEC told us- 'Nothing Can Be Done About Corruption Or The Police Attacks On You' Apparently that is called Human Rights. This text is not a thousandth part of the evidence that a TV Company has described as too big to expose. They stole some of it.
    Only five police broke ranks in 15 yrs. The two inside the h of c said 'yeah you are right take this place over then we will join you'. All of this text is being disclosed to the public inc Lincs.. By the way - so its takes 27people to 'monitor children using three political ogs and as many religions does it has the psychologists and others employed by the dept education police councils.not learned anything about the effect double binds have on kids. How dare you sit there allowing the influence of different political orgs and religions to imprint kids without doing something about it. Grove has not even bothered to reply to queries and schools in this area are publishing huge photos in their newsletters of the same police who have been round here using violence on a dying man whilst telling us that the 1000pp evidence that the BBC advised to ˜hide abroad'.Is of no value to a society. No school has replied to any questions we posed. How can you as some sort of police No University will answer questions.Nor will any HM MP or Minister.
    From what we have found going on in the police and home office does it mean that the police are teaching their kids the same tactics because if so the uk/world wont survive.
    Heared about Scientology? Know about Lufthansa. And how about what happened when we contacted around 20 Jewish Orgs in Manchester area? You sure you wanna know? Deleting this may satisfy yout ego but it will also kill people. Dont just do something sit there. 1000 Emails sent out and not dialogue offered. A woman who seems to be some sort of actress or model receives 7 million mails. Are you sane or not?

  85. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago (edited)

    That is a terrible pic of ENB

  86. Derp-o-Matic 6000   2 years ago

    I like how this post is noted as "edited". Did spambot accidentally understate its impressive income? I'm glad it corrected the record.

  87. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

    Legit made me laugh.

  88. Moonrocks   2 years ago

    I think it's a new method to beat the spam filters. They'll post a generic-looking comment (something like "totally agree!") and then edit the ad in later.

  89. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

    He may have known, but now can’t remember.

  90. Longtobefree   2 years ago

    When I had a clearance, if you didn't know where every page was at all times, the company nurse cut your balls off.

  91. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

    Yes, saw it happen.

  92. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    But no mention of sandwiches.

  93. Chumby   2 years ago

    He probably still gets a cardboard crown when eating at Burger King.

  94. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

    Ha HA! Flagging works again!
    * You can flag multiple comments without reloading
    * They stay flagged!

  95. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

    Spam flagging is working again.

  96. Outlaw Josey Wales   2 years ago

    Ok. That's funny. 🙂

  97. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

    Whoop!

  98. Overt   2 years ago

    Thank god. It was getting to the point where this site offered zero value. Between having to fact check the authors for simple shit like "What is the Fair Tax" and not being able to mute hundreds of spam comments, there was very little reason to keep coming.

  99. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

    With timing like that, she could get a job at the horse races.

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  101. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

    He's not calling people child cartoon characters.

    Think what "peanuts" rhymes with to a pedo.

  102. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

    Doesn't a sandwich require two Cubans?

  103. Nardz   2 years ago

    Only if you're trying to pass off a couple Dominicans in a Cuban wrapper.

  104. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

    Not if the sammich is Vat-grown. 😉

  105. Chumby   2 years ago

    Does it have a lot of stove pipes?

  106. Nardz   2 years ago

    "And we also know these documents were somewhere in between Joe being VP and their placement at this Upenn thinktank facility, because it didn’t exist yet. And we know the chicoms gave a bunch of money to this thinktank about the same time the documents were moved there."

    Hmm

  107. Longtobefree   2 years ago

    Making sandwiches is one thing; washing Biden dirty laundry is perfectly fine.

  108. MK Ultra   2 years ago

    I think Hypocrite Sandwich is opening for The Cro-Mags in DC next month.

  109. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    Not as rare as Mike "Mr. Literal" Laursen understanding sarcasm (the language construct, not the Reason gadfly).

  110. Utkonos   2 years ago

    It really Depends.

  111. perlmonger   2 years ago

    Making sandwiches?

    Giving ENBJs?

  112. Mike Laursen   2 years ago (edited)

    So, you wanted to make a sarcastic joke. Since we are in the 21st century, for the joke to make sense you had to say that the "in-thing" is in the same century we are currently in. But there's a problem: public-private partnership isn't really a thing in this century anymore than it was in the past century -- in fact, public-private partnership was a huuuge part of the 20th century.

    So, at this point you have a joke that isn't working because you have to stretch it by saying the "in-thing" is a 21st-century fashion when it was much more of a 20th-century fashion. At that point, you could have said to yourself, "Hmm, this joke doesn't really work." But, instead, you made the joke.

    So, I did get your joke. I also got why it wasn't funny. And, yes, I was literal in pointing out that public-private partnership was as much or bigger of an "in-thing" in the 20th century.

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