Twitter Files Reveal Politicians, Officials Evading the Constitution's Restrictions
People in power lean on private businesses to impose authoritarian policies forbidden to the government.

In recent years, social media firms, financial institutions, and hosting platforms have denied services to disfavored customers, sometimes for political reasons. The response from many quarters (myself included) has been that people have free association rights and can generally do business as they please.
But what if these outfits are private-ish, enacting policy on behalf of politicians to spare them pushback or allow for end-runs around constitutional protections? They do so out of ideological agreement, fear of government retaliation, or a mix of both. That messy scenario is what the Twitter Files reveal of the relationship between the social media giant and federal officials. It's a glimpse of a bigger problem.
"The United States government pressured Twitter to elevate certain content and suppress other content about COVID-19 and the pandemic," wrote David Zweig of The Free Press, who joined Matt Taibbi, Michael Shellenberger, and Free Press founder Bari Weiss in revealing Twitter's collaboration with the state at the request of new owner Elon Musk. "Internal emails that I viewed at Twitter showed that both the Trump and Biden administrations directly pressed Twitter executives to moderate the platform's content according to their wishes."
The FBI and the Department of Homeland Security also leaned on the platform to suppress what officials considered election-related "misinformation." The files revealed internal disputes over what crossed the line, with decisions based on judgment calls. The employment of former feds and what The Dispatch's David French terms "an ideological monoculture" ensured that such decisions generally deferred to authority, especially after the Biden administration took office.
But Twitter isn't a special case. In 2021, President Joe Biden accused Facebook of "killing people" by allowing discussion of government-disfavored ideas about COVID-19 response. "White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki singled out a dozen specific anti-vaccine Facebook accounts and called on the platform to ban them," Reason's Robby Soave noted at the time.
Accusations of homicide by a president who commands regulatory authority aren't subtle. Whatever corporate executives think of those in power, they may consider it wise to do for government what is forbidden to the state.
"In America, government censorship is limited by the First Amendment," Will Duffield noted in a Cato Institute report about what he terms "jawboning." "Nevertheless, seizing upon the relationship between platforms and speakers, government officials increasingly demand that platforms refrain from publishing disfavored speech. They threaten platforms with punitive legislation, antitrust investigations, and prosecution. Government officials can use informal pressure—bullying, threatening, and cajoling—to sway the decisions of private platforms and limit the publication of disfavored speech."
Few countries have America's strong protections for free speech, but their governments still find it cheap and efficient to deputize private businesses as proxy censors. The European Union's Digital Services Act (DSA) sets penalties for online platforms that fail to suppress speech the government doesn't like.
"The DSA does not strike the right balance between countering genuine online harms and safeguarding free speech," Jacob Mchangama, executive director of Copenhagen's Justitia think tank, warned in April of 2022. "It will most likely result in a shrinking space for online expression, as social media companies are incentivized to delete massive amounts of perfectly legal content."
Companies doing business in China inevitably find themselves conscripted as arms of state authority.
"One of Hong Kong's last remaining pro-democracy activist groups has had its account with online payments processor PayPal terminated," Voice of America reported in October. "The League of Social Democrats says that PayPal, a multinational financial technology company headquartered in California and Nebraska, sent an email stating it can no longer provide its services to the activist group."
Then again, PayPal may not require much pressure to politicize its business. In October, amidst an uproar, the company backed off a plan to fine customers for "misinformation." But UCLA Law's Eugene Volokh pointed out that its remaining arbitrary policies regarding acceptable speech remain "a good reason to think twice about using PayPal."
Free speech is dear to Americans, but it's not the only constitutionally protected right that politicians and their allies want to bypass. Earlier this year, Amalgamated Bank, a labor-union owned outfit with explicit ideological leanings, touted its efforts to track firearms purchases:
"Amalgamated Bank announced that its application to the International Standards Organization for a new merchant category code (MCC) for gun and ammunition stores was approved. This code is the key to creating new tools that all financial institutions must now use to begin detecting and reporting suspicious activity associated with gun trafficking and mass shootings to the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, the government agency charged with safeguarding the financial system from illicit use."
Unbound by the Second Amendment this avowedly anti-gun institution not only pursues goals forbidden to politicians but also tries to force others to comply. There's no reason it stops there.
"Some executives in private discussions have flagged concerns that it could lead to the creation of more codes that could be used to crack down on controversial businesses such as abortion providers," The Wall Street Journal reported.
Other examples aren't so dramatic. I recently asked the manager of a Phoenix apartment complex about its ban on backed-in parking. She told me the company partners with the police as a "safe" property and that the parking requirement is a condition of participation. Arizona has only rear license plates, so nose-in parking makes it easier for patrol cars to drive through and scan plates. Do the owners want to stay on the good side of authorities by being cooperative? Of course.
All of which means that the Twitter Files expose the larger problem of government, constrained in its own actions, turning to private proxies to impose authoritarianism. Some proxies are willing and driven by ideological agreement, and that's their right. But the regulatory state gives officials enormous leverage over private firms and makes it harder to launch competitors that adhere to different values. Unsurprisingly, politicians want to restrict payment systems that can be used without the permission of government officials and their allies.
The regulatory state has long been criticized for impeding innovation and raising barriers to entry. But it's also a weapon for imposing authoritarianism in defiance of restrictions on the power of officials. That's yet another reason for rejecting an expansive government, and perhaps the best of all.
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"Some executives in private discussions have flagged concerns that it could lead to the creation of more codes that could be used to crack down on controversial businesses such as abortion providers,"
Meanwhile, in *this* universe, they'll monitor and try to censor *anti*-abortion groups and providers.
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You don't seem to have a problem when violating human rights is done against Jews. So why should we believe anything you say.
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All claims regarding the Holocaust were definitively proven 75 years ago. No further proof from any of us here is necessary.
Face it fag, you’re just a neo Nazi kook.
It's interesting to see where you draw the line between yourself and Misek.
Because from where I'm sitting, you're both in the same quartile. Policy differences?
bull fucking shit, you just wanna be the one who wields the banhammer
The fuckwit advocates censorship and propaganda. Hahaha.
I love how the Nazi loving, Holocaust denying antisemite argues against censorship and propaganda. The irony is so thick even a knife couldn't cut it.
If it wasn’t for the last 78 years of censorship under threat of imprisonment, your cherished bogeyman propaganda would have already been kaput.
You mean the facts of the Holocaust? That’s right, those millions of survivors, those countless aid workers and soldiers who had to handle the situation, the numerous statements from Nazis themselves, and the hordes and hordes of documents, photos, films are all part of a giant conspiracy to get people to believe in giant falsity.
I’m not sure what is worse, you simply being a Nazi loving antisemite with the IQ of a radish, or the fact you actually believe in your professed conspiracy.
Ever met a flat earther? Evidence doesn't mean shit to those people, they JUST KNOW...makes them very very special. As in a legend in their own minds.
Now there’s “millions of survivors”. Hahaha
You fuckwits are incapable of critical thinking.
Yes, there were most definitely millions of survivors of the Holocaust and the actions of the Nazis. Jesus, the amount of facts you have to completely ignore to assert your anti-Semitic garbage position is just astounding.
When every living Jew is defined as a holocaust survivor, there is no room for rational discussion.
Yet not every living Jew is a Holocaust survivor. That's just another bizarre straw man that you made up to support your false narrative.
You are such a raging fucking moron.
I don’t know where you’re getting your bogeyman propaganda but wiki is pretty clear.
“At the start of World War II in September 1939, about nine and a half million Jews lived in the European countries that were either already under the control of Nazi Germany or would be invaded or conquered during the war. Almost two-thirds of these European Jews, nearly six million people, were annihilated, so that by the end of the war in Europe in May 1945, about 3.5 million of them had survived.[1][8]“
“Other Jews throughout Europe survived because the Germans and their collaborators did not manage to complete the deportations and mass-murder ”
Wiki is counting Jews that never met a German as holocaust survivors.
By that logic, since the story includes non Jews too, everyone in the world who lived after WW2 is a holocaust survivor. Over 2 billion.
Where are all the reparations for the non Jew holocaust survivors aka everyone else.
The holocaust bullshit began as Jewish lies begging for money 166 times in mainstream media before 1945, became allied propaganda during the war and lives on today as the Jewish victim gold card, to get money, steal Palestine and generally enhance the lives of lying thieving Jews.
You still can’t refute anything I say.
In *this* universe, the State of Idaho Republican Party could NOT even bring itself (party-platform-wise) to guarantee the right of medical doctors to remove (clearly non-viable) fallopian-tube cysts to protect the life of the mother!
QUESTIONS THAT THE FANATICS WON’T EVER ANSWER: What do YOU think that the punishment should be for deliberately killing a fertilized human egg cell? Ditto the punishments for likewise killing a fertilized egg of an ape... A monkey... A rat... An insect... If your Righteous Punishments From on High are DIFFERENT in these cases, then WHY? WHERE do the differences come from? And what gives YOU (or the 51% of the voters) the right to punish the rest of us?
Never, ever, have I gotten any serious answers, when I pose these questions, about what the PUNISHMENTS should be! (Could it be that the fanatics don’t want us to focus on THEIR obsession, which is their smug and self-righteous “punishment boners”?). Also, the unwillingness to answer questions is strongly indicative of authoritarianism. At the root here is the unmistakable attitude of “Because I said so, peons! Do NOT question your Rulers!”
And do you want POLITICIANS to decide, instead of moms and their doctors? Speaking of clueless politicians, see https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/23/idaho-republican-anti-abortion-swallow-camera , “Anti-abortion lawmaker gets anatomy lesson – women cannot swallow camera for exam.” (“Pill-cam”). It seems Idaho representative Vito Barbieri wasn’t listening in the third grade, when another student asked the teacher, “If babies come from mommy’s tummy, how come they don’t get digested?” And he’s not done ANY even vaguely serious studying of health matters since then, either! This clearly shows the UTTER medical ignorance of many power-hungry politicians, who would STILL over-regulate medicine, in order to pander to fanatics! Ignorance for the win, over decency, humility, and self-restraint!
"What do YOU think that the punishment should be for deliberately killing a fertilized human egg cell?"
1. How many abortions are of one fertilized cell? That's a what? three minute window before mitosis? Dad's dick might be still in the way.
2. Killing someone should carry the same penalty whether they're six months, six years or six decades old.
And the wanton killing of a full-grown space alien? Totes OK, 'cause the space alien has no HUMAN DNA?
Weird redirection attempt, but okay. Don’t kill space aliens and don't kill people, Sqrlsy.
(Perhaps hypothetical) space aliens and humans share in common HIGH LEVELS OF CONSCIOUSNESS (ability to suffer deeply), which we can't even measure very accurately at all. Higher animals also share this with us, to an unknown degree. You have NO evidence that a clump of 4, 8, or 16 cells shares ANY of this!!! THAT is why I am calling your bullshit!
Abortion is a VERY necessary evil, in our world today! Outlawing abortion will lead to MORE evil, NOT less, in today’s world, with human nature as it is today! If Jesus were here today, I bet that he would NOT lust after the political power to PUNISH people for “murdering” fertilized egg cells! He might say, “Judge not, that you be not judged using your ridiculously picky standards! Get that log (always lusting after PUNISHING those who you deem wicked) out of your eye, before you go trying to pick that near-invisible fertilized egg cell out of your brother’s or sister’s eye!”
A short summary is simply, no one alive today can PROVE (with reliably repeatable data) what consciousness (or a soul or the “rights” of a living being) is. Where does it come from, when does it set in, in a living being’s development process, when is it gone, and where (if anywhere) does it go? If you can firmly answer ANY of these questions, with PROOF, there are Nobel Prizes waiting for you! In the meantime, do you think that you could be so decent as to suppress or hide your “punishment boner” that lusts after always PUNISHING those who disagree with you?
Your “punishment boner” is a VERY real thing, according to psychology and sociobiology! People ENJOY (are willing to pay high prices for) punishing “wrong-doing” others! Just one sample link here: https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.0905918106#:~:text=Costly%20(altruistic)%20punishment%20means%20paying,theoretical%20models%20(see%20also%20refs. “Costly punishment does not always increase cooperation”.
"(Perhaps hypothetical) space aliens and humans share in common HIGH LEVELS OF CONSCIOUSNESS"
You're unconscious when you in deep sleep, so I guess it's alright to kill you then.
And speaking of punishment boners those unborn children must have really pissed you off to give you such a hardon for their deaths.
So Mammary-Fuhrer... WHY will ye NOT answer the questions?
QUESTIONS THAT THE FANATICS WON’T EVER ANSWER: What do YOU think that the punishment should be for deliberately killing a fertilized human egg cell? Ditto the punishments for likewise killing a fertilized egg of an ape… A monkey… A rat… An insect… If your Righteous Punishments From on High are DIFFERENT in these cases, then WHY? WHERE do the differences come from? And what gives YOU (or the 51% of the voters) the right to punish the rest of us?
God told you so, right, self-righteous Perfect Person?
"What do YOU think that the punishment should be for deliberately killing a fertilized human egg cell? Ditto the punishments for likewise killing a fertilized egg of an ape… A monkey… A rat… An insect… I"
You could ask the same thing about an adult human, adult ape, adult monkey, adult rat, adult insect. And if you don't think there's a difference between an adult human's life and that of an insect, then you're exactly what I thought you were.
I'd accuse you of sophistry here, but I honestly don't think that you're capable of thinking even that far.
Perfect You will NOT answer about "the punishment should be ____", because it would reveal Your Perfectly Never-Ending POWER LUST to PUNISH!!!! Whatever problems we have... The solution is ALWAYS MORE PUNISHMENT!!!!
Me? Killing a human fartilized egg smell? A fine of $0.29, if we catch you!
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If you think only one side engages in this crap you are a huge part of the problem.
So it’s really not PrIvAtE cOmPaNieS?
Took Reason way too long to address this while defending it for years. These issues in the article are not knew and have been discussed in thenxomments for years. No wonder ENB hates the commentary.
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Mastodon is utilized by pedophiles because it's hard to censor and control. It's no secret I hate kiddie diddlers, but I think Mastodon's modus operandi as a hard to censor platform is ultimately good and needed.
Unfortunately you're going to have perverts pop up in areas that are hard to control, and it's going to take more effort to get them than if they posted on Facebook, but that's the price for being hard to censor.
This makes me very happy I avoid social media platforms.
Sure; they just have to kowtow to a fascist government.
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Government wouldn't have the Power of Proxy-Power without first building the National Sozialist(Nazi)-Empire which is treasonous to the USA to begin with (violations of the Constitution)..
Building the Nazi-Empire over the last century is what made Proxy-Power censorship possible.
Starting with Wilson, and massively advanced by FDR.
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With very strong government sanction, at least until they outlived their usefulness; something about a night with long knives as I recall. Live by it, die by it.
At that time, they were not the government.
'Just' another political party.
(Yep "replaced" by the sub-section in charge of violence.
SS > SA)
Sanction; I meant approval. Must be opposite day, at least in my mind. I believe the SA was relegated to training the home guard or some such housekeeping duties.
The SA? Long story. Röhm didn’t build it in a day.
From the article...
"Internal emails that I viewed at Twitter showed that both the Trump and Biden administrations directly pressed Twitter executives to moderate the platform's content according to their wishes."
BOTH-SIDES-ISM anti-Trump TDS-talk from Reason.com PROVES beyond the shadow of a doubt, that they (writers) are firmly COMMUNIST in their outlook!!!!
1. Team Blue are the aggressors and Team Red are victims!
2. Team Blue and Team Red are both aggressors, but Team Blue is 100x worse!
3. Team Blue started it!
4. Kill anyone who isn’t on Team Red!
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Neat how you two chucklefucks are ignoring the fact that of the "moderation requests" from the two parties only the Democrat's was about deplatforming people, and Twitter ignored the Trump request while fulfilling the Democrats.
We don't call you Shillsy and White Mike for nothing.
https://www.npr.org/2020/05/28/863932758/stung-by-twitter-trump-signs-executive-order-to-weaken-social-media-companies
Just WUNDERBAR according to Marxist Mammary-Necrophilia-Fuhrer!!! My team GOOD! Your team BAD! NO more details are needed! Ever!
Hold up. Are you pretending that an EO not to censor is the same thing as illegal government orders to censor?
Not sure you’re really grasping this whole First Amendment thing.
Not sure you’re really grasping the whole idea that power-grabbing and pussy-grabbing others who hurt no one, merely for disagreeing with YOU, Oh Perfect One, is a VERY shitty idea!
Yeah, run away to your "pussy-grabbing" bullshit, you fucking retard. You know your pro-government censorship position is indefensible.
How is S-230 pro-government? It LIMITS the powers of Government Almighty, you Perfect MORON!!!
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"It LIMITS the powers of Government Almighty"
Well that's an obvious lie that not even the authors of 230 made. It protects websites against private lawsuits, it doesn't limit a single government power.
In fact, as evidenced in the article above, it enabled (illegal) government powers through misuse of the Good Samaritan Clause. It literally was the instrument of government power.
Hey EvilBahnFuhrer… No matter HOW many times you tell your “Big Lie”, it is NOT true! You’re part of the mob, aren’t you, gangster? For a small fee, you tell small businesses that you will “protect” them… From you and your mob! Refute the below, ye greedy authoritarian who wants to shit all over the concept of private property!
Look, I’ll make it pretty simple for simpletons. A prime argument of enemies of Section 230 is, since the government does such a HUGE favor for owners of web sites, by PROTECTING web site owners from being sued (in the courts of Government Almighty) as a “publisher”, then this is an unfair treatment of web site owners! Who SHOULD (lacking “unfair” section 230 provisions) be able to get SUED for the writings of OTHER PEOPLE! And punished by Government Almighty, for disobeying any and all decrees from Government Almighty’s courts, after getting sued!
In a nutshell: Government Almighty should be able to boss around your uses of your web site, because, after all, Government Almighty is “protecting” you… From Government Almighty!!!
Wow, just THINK of what we could do with this logic! Government Almighty is “protecting” you from getting sued in matters concerning who you chose to date or marry… In matters concerning what line of work you chose… What you eat and drink… What you read… What you think… Therefore, Government Almighty should be able to boss you around on ALL of these matters, and more! The only limits are the imaginations and power-lusts of politicians!
LOL… According to your article seems the E.O. was but to enforce Section 230….
“The law protects Internet companies from being sued over content that appears on their platforms and allows for content moderation. *****The removal of a post is left up to the internal rules of companies such as Twitter and Facebook, provided those decisions are made ‘in good faith.’ “*****
They weren't "internal" and they weren't "in good faith".
But Yes; Trump should've had this investigated and IMPEACHED the entire Nazi-Empire growing within instead of trying to break their Proxy-Control by threatening them.
And now Dee runs away.
State action says what?
In this war of words, Team Blue is so far beyond the pale that it’s not even comparable. And I’m not even referring to their fucktarded banning of conservatives and libertarians.
But yes, fuck any Republicans who pressured these companies to do their bidding.
Tuccile, it's all just a business decision.
Well, yeah. Just like paying the Mafia for “insurance.”
But since the government never explicitly ordered social media platforms to take down particular messaging, nothing wrong was done, says the Washington Post's commentariat.
Old news. No guns were used.
Same on J6 but it was still an insurrection.
Nothing wrong, or nothing illegal? They are not the same.
For personal decisions, sure. For government action, if you think "legal" but "wrong" is some kind of distnction we should care about, then you are a useful idiot.
You didn't need that to confirm the slimy pile of lefty shit is a useful idiot.
Illegal, but never prosecuted is the same as nothing wrong in the eyes of "the press".
If one defines “the press” as the part of the media that shills did the Democrats and ignore all the parts of the media that do not. In other words, if one defines “the press” to serve one’s victimhood narrative.
So much mental gymnastics for you to avoid the truth of what your party has done.
Which shows they cannot read. The Twitter files document that DHS directed the removal of hundreds of thousands of individual posts, most of which were by small follower accounts of fairly anonymous average joes.
It's almost like there's a legal concept that disposes of the entire performative display that is the Twit files, yet somehow the author pretends it doesn't exist. Why do you think that is?
Remember when Trump tried to sue Twitter and Robby explicitly said :
"This is obviously wrong. Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube are not state actors."
Be nice to see just a generalized mea culpa anywhere in this coverage. Reason ran cover for private platform decisions without really considering how they were acting on behalf of the state-which we knew about from the big tech hearings even without learning that the FBI was routinely in contact.
https://www.npr.org/2020/05/27/863011399/trump-threatens-to-shut-down-social-media-after-twitter-adds-warning-on-his-twee
Trump Threatens To Shut Down Social Media After Twitter Adds Warning To His Tweets
So Trump should have gotten His Way? If I add a comment to Your Sacred Comment, questioning Your Sacred Truth... You should be allowed to PUNISH me for my insolence? Look in a mirror, A Stinking Mind, and see... An authoritarian!
No, of course not. But this is weak sauce coming from you, who has been fine with the government censoring people on Twitter as long as they're MAGA or conservative.
Sure, liar, whatever Perfect You says!
Meanwhile, Marxist Mammary-Necrophilia-Fuhrer is OK with Government Almighty micro-management of moderation, because it will enable pussy-grabbing the "libs", who will NEVER think of pussy-grabbing right back atcha!
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The day after tomorrow, you get a jury summons. You will be asked to rule in the following case: A poster posted the following to social media: “Government Almighty LOVES US ALL, FAR more than we can EVER know!”
This attracted protests from liberals, who thought that they may have detected hints of sarcasm, which was hurtful, and invalidated the personhoods of a few Sensitive Souls. It ALSO attracted protests from conservatives, who were miffed that this was a PARTIAL truth only (thereby being at least partially a lie), with the REAL, full TRUTH AND ONLY THE TRUTH being, “Government Almighty of Der TrumpfenFuhrer ONLY, LOVES US ALL, FAR more than we can EVER know! Thou shalt have NO Government Almighty without Der TrumpfenFuhrer, for Our TrumpfenFuhrer is a jealous Government Almighty!”
Ministry of Truth, and Ministry of Hurt Baby Feelings, officials were consulted. Now there are charges!
QUESTIONS FOR YOU THE JUROR:
“Government Almighty LOVES US ALL”, true or false?
“Government Almighty LOVES US ALL”, hurtful sarcasm or not?
Will you be utterly delighted to serve on this jury? Keep in mind that OJ Simpson got an 11-month criminal trial! And a 4-month civil trial!
That's right. You can't defend your rhetoric, so try a heckler's veto instead.
Brainless Wonder-Child... You can NOT address my questions, can you?
What question, retard? Heckling and defamation aren't questions.
QUESTIONS FOR YOU THE JUROR:
“Government Almighty LOVES US ALL”, true or false?
“Government Almighty LOVES US ALL”, hurtful sarcasm or not?
Will you be utterly delighted to serve on this jury? Keep in mind that OJ Simpson got an 11-month criminal trial! And a 4-month civil trial!
Ye power-slobbering PIGS will take me scratching my ass the wrong way, to court, if it gets ye... MORE POWER!!!!
Government hates us all, but, like a beaten wife, you love government censorship when it's against libertarians and conservatives.
Question answered. Happy?
"Will you be utterly delighted to serve on this jury?"
NOT answered!
There will be no apology. The writers would have to admit that their own commentators we're right, but ENBs twatter feed aptly demonstrates their contempt for inconvenient truths.
Be nice to see just a generalized mea culpa anywhere in this coverage.
I'm still waiting for them to mea culpa 2015, Trumps first two years and the first impeachment. Their, Reason's, complicity is all memory holed.
Perhaps you’d enjoy more hanging out at Breitbart or something.
Perhaps you'd enjoy hanging out at Vox or something.
I see him as more of a Salon type of guy. Vox still pretends it doesn't hate the plebs.
Perhaps you could stop squawking like a bird.
Shut up Dee, you bitch!
“Some proxies are willing and driven by ideological agreement, and that's their right.” <— As much as it may go against one’s personal wishes is some cases, this is still a libertarian principle that individuals and private companies have a right to voluntarily comply with government.
"voluntarily comply with government" is not a thing.
What happened to #Resist?
Mike once again admits fascism is fine to him. Doesn't give a shit about government threats or spending to have businesses do what government can not.
“Voluntarily”
Ran? Past tense?
Read this article again.
"The FBI and the Department of Homeland Security also leaned on the platform to suppress what officials considered election-related "misinformation.""
Note the turn of phrase that obscures the reality of what happened: "officials considered misinformation"
As if this were some error in judgement, or a disputed interpretstion... an honest mistake.
This is not a reasonable analysis. No honest third party observer could possibly believe that the folks at the FBI and CIA actually believed that the "Biden is on the take" story was Russian Disinformation. Their own actions belie this. Beyond which, we know that all of the key details about who was involved were already verified before they began spreading their own disinformation campaign.
Pretending that these are government officials acting in good faith *is* disinformation. This *is* covering for the bad actors in the story.
The Twitter files confirm a widespread conspiracy being run out of the DHS to use the same propaganda techniques the CIA uses to coordinate coups in 3rd world countries, right here in the US. We have iron-clad proof that this has been happening since the Obama administration, at a minimum.
Pretending that it didn't happen is being part of the propaganda machine. Pretending that it was just an accident or overreach of a well-intentioned project to protect the American people from Russian interference is being part of the propaganda machine.
None of these takes are remotely defensible based on the known facts.
It is impossible to honestly claim that this giant censorship and disinformation regime is somehow a well intentioned accident.
Reason has explained repeatedly that, when the deep state is concerned, we should always assume incompetence and not malevolence. ENB told us that just a couple weeks ago when she defended censoring the laptop story. In her view the FBI was just a little overzealous because of all the Russian disinformation in 2016. Reason will always defend the regime until forced to do otherwise. They have completely pissed away any credibility they ever had.
Truly amazing how hard you are trying to soft peddle such flagrant violations of the Constitution.
So name me ONE person in the USA who DISOBEYED Government Almighty's wishes with respect to content moderation, and got FINED or PUT IN JAIL? Or did they merely get THREATENED that they'd get punished... AFTER Government Almighty REMOVED the protections of Section 230? Seems to me that freedom-loving and sensible people would fall all over themselves defending S-230!!! Butt NOOOO... Many "Team R" and Trumpista people show up here all day every day, lusting after tearing down S-230... So that they can make the liberals cry! And idiots power-lust this way, imagining that they can pussy-grab the liberals, and the liberals will NEVER think of pussy-grabbing them right back! WAKE UP and smell the covfefe, short-sighted and shit-sighted power-lusters!
Ross Ulbricht.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Ulbricht
You got me on that one, sort of... This was an injustice! However, it was a "war on hookers" and a "war on drugs" that powered this injustice... NOT a war on "content moderation about the news that pisses us off!"
“content moderation about the news that pisses us off!”
Charles Schenk.
https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/193/schenck-v-united-states
In the landmark Schenck v. United States, 249 U.S. 47 (1919), the Supreme Court affirmed the conviction of Charles Schenck and Elizabeth Baer for violating the Espionage Act of 1917 through actions that obstructed the “recruiting or enlistment service” during World War I.
I hope that we've made progress since then, but the power-hungry beasts within us do sadly persist, so we never know what tomorrow will bring... Till then... Happy New Year!
Keith Wood. From the pages of Reason Magazine
"Last summer they persuaded a jury to convict local activist Keith Wood, who was arrested in 2015 for handing out FIJA flyers near the county courthouse, of a misdemeanor."
Another injustice, yes! No doubt about it! Now if Government Almighty had punished Reason.com for publicizing this, or commentors for commenting about it, THEN we'd be talking about FAR more serious (and systemic) violations of free speech! And by tearing down Section 230, this is exactly what we'd be inviting! (Comparing two shit sandwiches, yes. If I MUST have shit sandwiches, I'll take the smaller ones!)
PS, I note that your Reason.com link has no comments. Did Government Almighty dislike the comments, and lean on Reason.com to take them all down? If THAT is true, then the troubles here are worse than I was aware of!
Apparently, every single comment under that article contained links to kiddie porn (even the ad bots), so Reason quietly deleted them.
That being the only possible reason for Reason to exercise its power of censorship. (As we are repeatedly told here...)
Case closed!
Go find better handlers. The line they gave you on this move of the goalposts is so stupid you might accidentally convince yourself that the earth is flat.
So name me ONE person in the USA who DISOBEYED Government Almighty’s wishes with respect to content moderation, and got FINED or PUT IN JAIL?
Can't do it, over-wrought cry-baby, can you? Go clutch yer pearls some more!
They already gave you some.
Learn to READ, Mammary-Fuhrer! NONE of them fit "person punished for moderating THEIR web site while disobeying the wishes, moderation-wise, about news (not whores or drugs selling their stuff-and-shits-and-tits), of Government Almighty". Government Almighty does LOTS of bad shit... But NONE of them is a FIT for THIS exact "wrong moderation" shit, which you lying conservaturds make SUCH a big deal about! So... Name me ONE person who fits into these shoes? With NO shifting of, or shitting upon, the goal posts?
Yeah, still an idiotic talking point. Only a moron would repeat it.
Are you finding traction with it in other contexts? Is this stupid take swaying the minds of the great unwashed over at Huffington post or something?
Name me ONE person who fits into these shoes? With NO shifting of, or shitting upon, the goal posts?
Brainless pussy-shit can't do it!
"...Only a moron would repeat it..."
Or a TDS-addled spastic asshole.
Julian Assange
And whose web site is he moderating, the WRONG way?
Wikileaks, dumbfuck.
Seriously, you’re so bad at this.
https://wikileaks.org/ ... So WHERE are the COMMENTS on this web page? WHO got punished, with WHAT punishment, for moderating this web site in the WRONG way?
new owner Elon Musk. "Internal emails that I viewed at Twitter showed that both the Trump and Biden administrations directly pressed Twitter executives to moderate the platform's content according to their wishes."
Peanuts hardest hit.
Not really. Everyone here says it is bad when either side does it. You defended it. Weird.
How many conservatives here are raising awareness of, or condemning, Parler? Parler censors liberals, techdirt...
https://www.techdirt.com/2020/06/29/as-predicted-parler-is-banning-users-it-doesnt-like/
Butt I am QUITE sure that, if, due to a change in management at Parler, it came to light that Josh Hawley hadbeen "leaning on" Parler management... That ALL of the conservatives would be just OUTRAGED!!! Because there is NO tribalism HERE!!!
They don’t really care about censorship.
Cite?
When, in the USA, we have access to 1.14 billion web sites... Number of web sites today... https://siteefy.com/how-many-websites-are-there/ ... I don't care much about supposed censorshit! We also have phone calls, pamphlets, letters, word of mouth, smoke signals, telegraphs, Morse code, cryptic codes on the back-sides of stop signals, messages on cereal boxes, nano-molecules in your vaccines, tin-foil hats, ESP, clairvoyance, text messages, and... Now I will show my advanced years... EMAILS!!!!
I wish that the whining crybabies would JUST SHUT UP about HOW horribly bad censorshit is today!!! In the USA at least... We have MORE access to MORE lies, every day! We can freely access more lies than you can shake your dick at!
So let me get this straight. There's billions of websites so it's okay for the government to censor political speech it doesn't like on popular ones?
I think you're missing the point about the First Amendment.
Sure, I get it... The 1A says that if Marxist Mammary-Necrophilia-Fuhrer gets enough dogs to bark-bark-bark in unison in HER Perfect Dogpile, 51% of the votes means that Marxist Government Almighty takes over moderation of MY web site! Your authoritarianism and power-lust if clear for all thinking beings to see!
So you have nothing. Imagine Melvin from 20 years ago reading your posts now. What would he think about your defense of government censorship?
So you admit that Your Perfect Power-Lust is "nothing"? I sure hope that it STAYS that way!
Fuck off and die, TDS-addled spastic asshole. Make sure to mark your grave so we all know where to take a dump.
What the fuck does that even mean?
I have exposed Your Perfect Power-Lust for what it is. You say "So you have nothing."... You call Your Perfect Power-Lust "nothing". Your brains and-or your honesty also amount to... NOTHING!!!
You and SQRLSY are so full of shit. Jesse literally said it is bad when either side does it. As far as I know, nobody here has excused the Trump administration pressuring social media.
But shrike continuously defends the actions of any Democratic administration.
For every condemnation of TRUMP for this, in these comments, I see 357 condemnations of Biden and Demon-Craps! The comments are NOT balanced in ANY way! (The articles themselves are pretty balanced.)
GD you're F'En retarded....
Parler was shut down by Nazi-Politician request.
And here you are trying to push blame on Parler for "REALLY INTERNAL" decisions of moderating...
https://parler.com/ does NOT exist, then?
It was kicked off of Amazon Hosting and took over a month to re-setup on it's own server.
turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Had Trump been elected it can be said with 100% certainty that his administration would have continued to push companies into moderating content. It can also be said with 100% certainty that most of the current complainers would be defending the suppression of fake news or some other nonsense.
Yeah, remember when commercial and social media suppressed stories and info critical of Trump, and cancelled accounts for people who challenged Trump's version of COVID, all at the direct advice from the FBI?
It’s a trick being used by the propagandists, including Reason and Jeffdeesarc. It happened during the Trump administration, so he’s just as bad! Except we also know that Trump was not in charge of most of what his administration was doing. Including spying on him, openly #resisting his rightful power as the duly elected president, and even a no-shit attempted coup.
True. Many in the federal government were, and still are, committing treason on a daily basis. Which is typical of all leftists in this country.
I call it Leftard Projection.
They blame everyone and anyone else for exactly what they do/are.
Biden continued what Trump was already doing. How far would the Trump administration have gone? Nobody will every know. The point is that what the Biden administration did was not something new. That's by no means a defense of what happened. It is despicable regardless of the person in power.
"The point is that what the Biden administration did was not something new."
Wow! Really?
Maybe point out another example in history when another administration arranged the same sort of egregious mass censorship.
Educate us, Sarcasmic. Blow our minds.
Your obsessive hatred of Trump is beyond pathological.
Bullshit.
"Had Trump been elected it can be said with 100% certainty that his administration would have continued to push companies into moderating content."
So still no complaints about the Biden administration, Homeland Security, the FBI and the CIA actually 100% censoring content now?
And I guess Trump wanting to delete negative comments on his Twitter feed and the Supreme Court said he couldn't, never actually happened.
Nope. All the evil in the world began and will end with Trump. At least that’s how it works in Sarc’s drunken fever dreams.
That is just stupid.
The Twitter files clearly document that this group was working against Trump. This is not supposition. They say it quite explicitly both in their own words and in their actions.
This is yet another stupid pivot to distract from the story.
The bureaucrats in the federal security state explicitly set out to alter our elections and select our leaders, using federal power and federal dollars. Worse, this is not some rogue operation being run by a small handful of corrupt individuals. This is a huge operation costing probably north of $100 million per year and spanning several agencies and dozens of outside groups... not including the media and tech companies.
This is not a small-s scandall.
This is the corruption of your entire system of government.
And that is only the bit that we can see and document conclusively. What we don't know is... how far does this extend?
So, yeah... the "But Trump" narrative isn't just trite and inaccurate, it is stupid at levels that are difficult to properly frame. We have an entire regime dedicated to ensuring that you, specifically, and every one of us as a group not only cannot choose our leaders... we don't even get to have any accurate information with which to choose.
Yes, this is a big deal. Bigger than the worst alarmist crazy tinfoil wearing nutter over at Breitbart could have thought up.
And no, being a Democrat or agreeing with the democrats does not mean you are safe because they are on your side.
Look at what is coming out about big pharma and covid. Maybe that doesn't affect you. But what happens when it does? Do you really want them to have control over all news and all speech and all elected officials and all prosecutors when your anti-hypertension medication turns out to be harmful?
Because who is going to speak for you then? Your doctor? They silenced doctors who had data on their side. California makes disagreeing with orthodoxy a crime. Good luck even finding out that your medication is what harmed you in that world.
This is not about Trump. Anyone who says it is about Trump is selling something. And anyone who believes it is an idiot.
"That is just stupid..."
Look at the source; stupid is too kind.
Thank you Cyto.
Maybe the difference with COVID-19 and much of the rest of the disfranchisement of American voters, is that people are dying of the supposedly safe and effective “vaccine”.
Is that "dying of", or "dying with"?
Cite? Conjecture to defend your own defense of leftist censorship is always amusing.
Brainless assertions from lefty shit =/= evidence or argument.
I can guarantee you that if Trump were president and this information came to light, nobody here would be excusing it.
The Biden Administration is actually in charge though and they have been routinely using their muscle to bully social media into blocking and banning people that were spreading a different narrative on Covid and Covid policy that pissed Democrats off.
Hilariously un-self aware.
Whatevs, dude.
Reason is now 0-2 on the biggest sins of libertarianism this century: Crossfire Hurricane, and the Twitter Files.
One might be tempted to just accuse them of being asleep at the wheel, but the reality is that the common thread is Trump. And if it hurts Trump, then they will ignore it until it's too late.
They got him with the nuclear secrets from Mar a Lago though.
Never thought I'd see this rag have no issue with the government spending 10s of millions going after a politician not for a crime but after a person in search of one.
They are a hell of a lot worse than 0 for 2
What? There’s little in the Twitter Files that we didn’t already know about and was discussed on Reason.
Cite?
Lol! every day i'm more convinced MikeL is a fed
Why him? What's he trying to stir up? The person most likely to be a fed is Nardz. He's either a complete loser trapped in the basement of his mom's house, or he's FBI making calls to violence in an attempt to create a domestic terrorist cell so he can bust it.
No worries here that you're a fed though. They usually have to be high school grads.
Need the dozen times you've threatened violence again?
Oh, for crying out loud, are the gray box morons saying I’m a Federal agent now? I’m a software engineer.
I thought you were a general contractor. Can’t keep your lies straight, can you?
Why mute people when you always peek anyway?
Really? You were the one talking big shit about kicking my ass. When are you coming to Spokane to throw down?
Or are you just a drunken pussy?
He is dumb enough.
I see you’re going with “We’ve always known this was happening so it’s not a big deal.”
Unfortunately for you, people here aren’t absolute morons with the memory of a goldfish and remember you and others denying that it was happening and accusing anyone who said it was of being a Trump cultist.
We now know that Koch was funding the Stanford Internet Observatory, one of the cornerstones of the government's censorship regime inside the DHS.
No need to expose the man behind the curtain if you are putting coin in his pocket to ensure that he pulls the levers you want him to pull.
Explains A LOT of the coverage here the last 7+ years.
President Joe Biden accused Facebook of "killing people"
That's really weird because, if I've learned anything from 40 years of mendacity from Biden, Scranton (Catholic), it is that killing unborn children is absolutely fine. They're not people? The left has been blathering on about keeping the government out of the bedroom for decades, how about the waiting room?
In your belief system, does “unborn children” include embryos?
What do you think unborn children are?
Illegal immigrants?
I think he's aiming for a weird gotcha using the difference between the embryonic and fetal stages.
Probably a frozen embryo bank or stem cell tie-in.
https://twitter.com/ClimateDepot/status/1606349819559104512
Deutsche Bank report: ‘A Certain Degree of Eco-Dictatorship Will Be Necessary’ in order ‘to move towards climate neutrality’ | Climate Depot
They keep telling us what they're planning, but Reason and libertarians keep telling us to ignore our lying eyes and ears
But... there are unicorns over there
"BUT TOM COTTON SAID MEAN THINGS ABOUT PEDOPHILES!"
Which one is the actual goal, and which one is the rationalization?
EAT ZE BUGS PROL!
Then a certain degree of anti Marxist cleansing will be necessary to thwart Eco Dictatorship.
You know who else used a decidedly Deutsche platform to advocate a certain degree of dictatorship?
Do you understand this part:
"The above information does not constitute the provision of investment, legal or tax advice. Any views expressed reflect the current views of the author, which do not necessarily correspond to the opinions of Deutsche Bank AG or its affiliates. Opinions expressed may change without notice and may differ from views set out in other materials, including research, published by Deutsche Bank."
The author of the 3-page article in question, btw, was Eric Heymann (not Deutsche Bank itself). He is a long-time senior economist employed by DB. How "representative" do you imagine he is? And who does he represent?
https://twitter.com/nedryun/status/1609893792101842948?t=cwkkaj0wDmK827qGI6jWIg&s=19
“This type of re-education was accelerated by President Biden’s 2021 executive order. . . It’s a form of political indoctrination intended to impose woke values on the vast federal bureaucracy and U.S. military.”
[Link]
Classic Bolshevik move. Gotta destroy the institutions that might resist you, destroy it from the inside.
Education and military are top priority to destroy. Education is already destroyed. Now it's time for military
Don’t forget the free press. Remember, Reason used to be a real libertarian publication. Now it’s just another member of the propaganda class.
Just needed a corporatist big daddy donor to kick the process off and gradually replace the libertarians with midwit bien pensants.
"Well thinking."
Yes, we had a "_________ Neighbors" website launched in my community several months ago. It was rife with such orthodoxy telling the non conformists how they should think and behave, with all the moral superiority you'd expect. Of course it followed Facebook standards for posting and "misinformation," so if you argued your post would be reported and taken down.
I said fuck it. And "fuck you" several times before. Such "midwits" are the core of self destruction.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/machete-attack-times-square-injures-three-nypd-cops-fbi-investigates-possible-terror
Oh, can’t deny it anymore?
You people are a joke.
"One of Hong Kong's last remaining pro-democracy activist groups has had its account with online payments processor PayPal terminated," Voice of America reported in October. "The League of Social Democrats says that PayPal, a multinational financial technology company headquartered in California and Nebraska, sent an email stating it can no longer provide its services to the activist group."
Fuck PayPal; I deleted my account the day I read Volokh's article.
PayPal is genuinely even and the "paypal files" will absolutely reveal government collusion with their debanking efforts against enemies of the regime. I'm 100% certain of it.
As if PayPal is the primary offender here.
Operation Chokepoint ensured that every banking institutions is on board, and threats like the various anti-trafficking laws that target anyone who provides any service at all to sex workers are one mechanism that keeps it going and growing.
All of the major banks, credit card processors and internet "crowdsource funding" sites are on board, including patreon and GoFundMe.
Don't forget gambling sites...
(Why did you forget gambling sites, btw?)
If only the US had a high ranking politition that even when being goaded into nationalizing industries because of a pandemic he said no. You think reason would support someone like that...
Remember being an adolescent, when the only thing which mattered about someone was his/her personality? That person could have made pigs fly, but they had an icky personality, so you hated them? Remember being 12?
Let me introduce you to TDS-addled shits like Tuccille, Sullum, ENB, Brandyshit, turd, Sandra, and many, many more.
That, and being consumed 24/7 by what you think other 12 year olds think of you. Welcome to 21st century America, at least for young people on the left.
And old people on the left, like Sarc.
Like so much at "Reason", it seems to depend on skin color.
White is bad, Orange is even worse.
Skin color is the most important thing
But bake the fucking cake.
Who is that directed at? Reason has never advocated “bake the fucking cake”.
Cite?
"The response from many quarters (myself included) has been that people have free association rights and can generally do business as they please."
Yep, came here to say the same thing about the cake.
This seems to be the best Reason can muster (which seems like barely lip-service to the fundamental notion that a private business ought to be able to refuse service to anyone for any reason or no reason at all):
"Fortunately, in a free market, we don't need the government to force either. There is surely no shortage of businesses willing to bake goods with pro-LGBTQ messages (or not to ask further questions if a part pink, part blue cake is requested), and probably at least a few that would be willing to do the opposite for the right price. Meanwhile, there are less coercive means—like boycotts and negative publicity—for people to express displeasure with businesses like Masterpiece Cakeshop.
"Despite all this, people are repeatedly trying to get the government to force one particular man known to oppose these messages to violate his beliefs and do so.
"Given the circumstances, it seems a lot more like bullying someone over their values and attempting to drive openly religious entrepreneurs out of business for not agreeing with prevailing orthodoxy around sexuality and gender than a principled stand for the material well-being and concerns of marginalized groups. You may not agree with Phillips' beliefs—I don't—but a liberal, pluralistic society requires tolerance for people of different moral beliefs coexisting without using the state to crush dissent out of one another.
So, Reason isn't passionate enough.
You need to end the quotes and make your replies obvious; no idea of what you intend to say.
Old Year/New Year: Hope
"Hope springs eternal in the human breast; Man never is, but always To be Blest."
-Alexander Pope (1688-1744)
2022. An awful year. Hope springs among American citizens that 2023 will be a better year. The current signs, however, suggest that this new year will be more of the old year. The flaw lies in the system more than the miscreants who inhabit it and pervert it.
Will the new year bring needed reform? Will evil Democrats disavow their intentionally creating mayhem in order to implement the tyranny of socialistic Fascism? Will feckless, hypocritical Republicans suddenly rise together in defense of the Republic as given to us by the Framers of our magnificent Constitution with all its flaws? Will bureaucrats abide by that Constitution?
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"Internal emails that I viewed at Twitter showed that both the Trump and Biden administrations directly pressed Twitter executives to moderate the platform's content according to their wishes."
Bull. That's nothing but a hit on Trump with a bunch of "BOAF SIDEZ" nonsense. Only Reason could report something so blatantly biased against Trump. Biden is evil with bad intentions, and Trump is good with good intentions. So when the Trump administration intimidated companies into moderating content it was good because it was done with good intentions. There's no possible way a rational person could compare that to Biden because he has bad intentions. Anyone who disagrees is a leftist.
You do know that this is referring to a huge group inside DHS that went out of the control of the administration and actively worked to undermine the administration with a massive disinformation campaign and worked to subvert the president with a censorship regime that specifically targeted him, right?
Pretending that "Trump did it" is even dumber than pretending that Biden didn't go on the take, or Biden didn't conspire to frame someone for a crime, or Biden didn't work to subvert the peaceful transfer of power. I mean, we have written proof of all the later ones, but in addition to written proof on whether "Trump did it", we have the obvious fact that the entire conspiracy was an explicitly partisan Democrat conspiracy designed and orchestrated to attack Trump.
In sarc’s defense, he’s dumb as shit.
an explicitly partisan Democrat conspiracy designed and orchestrated to
re-attain and fortify their undeserved powers. It didn't matter who tried to return those powers to the people, the IC has 100 ways to skin you before you even know there's a knife in the room.
The camel's nose was already under the tent during the Trump administration. Who knows when it got there. Could have been before him.
Could have been before him
At least since Roosevelt co-opted industry into servitude
So you think Biden was in the government in April 2017?
Maybe he was "on the wish"?
Man. You saw shrike get humiliated with that take and decided to remake it?
What exactly did the Trump admin try to censor? We know the Biden admin went hard after “election deniers”, “vaccine deniers”, and “anti-Covid policy people”.
It's a absurd to throw the Trump administration into this conversation, but this is Reason.
I just want to remind everyone:
$250k worth of memes that almost nobody saw were enough for Russia to subvert the 2016 election and install Trump as their puppet.
So sayeth everyone on the left, all of the media and specifically Reason Magazine. Matt said it with a red face and spittle flying from the corner of his lips. ENB gleefully supported this take.
The Twitter files and reporting by the Glenn Greenwald adjacent group of Weiss, Taibbi et al has revealed multiple federal groups funded at tens of millions per year, each, all working together to spread disinformation, suppress information and affect the outcome of the 2020 election.
Not some nebulous “censorship” thing. Not some white hat “fight disinformation” protection for the American people. Their reporting clearly and unambiguously proves that this was a group that intended to elect democrats and defeat Republicans, specifically Trump. They demonstrate this by showing the key players saying exactly as much in their own words.
You can walk around with your fingers in your ears singing La-la-la-la at the top of your lungs all you want, but the fact remains that a group of left wing activists has been using the power of the federal government to subvert our elections for at least the last 2 presidential election cycles. In the process they have also subverted our free press, our ability to freely communicate and discuss ideas in public and our ability to freely associate.
If you thought (or pretended) that Russian interference was a significant issue in 2016, you should be holding a pitchfork in one hand and a torch in the other. This makes that (mostly fake) story look innocuous and quaint.
Tony 2 weeks ago
"Normie liberal here. Go fuck yourselves. You care about nothing but the latest conspiracy theory shoved down your eye holes by some fat blogger with Thiel money. You don’t even know what you’re mad about or why. You just have the emotions you are instructed to have. There is not a single goddamn thing you believe that has any connection to truth or reality."
What's odds that Tony eats his words?
That feckless whiny assed little dipshit doesn't have the integrity to eat his words. Anything that contradicts his dire need for a gay troll to provide for his every need and protect him from the vicissitudes of life is not tolerable. And if he can't find himself a lover to do it, it will just have to be the government that treats him like a whore.
He was projecting.
Oh and he spends his entire waking life in absolute fear of being gunned down in a mass shooting.
That would involve honesty and accountability. Two attributes a sociopathic Marxist like Tony does not possess.
Matt said it with a red face and spittle flying from the corner of his lips. ENB gleefully supported this take.
When was this? You sure they weren't joking?
You have got to be joking. Matt has not been able to mention the name "Trump" without nearly suffering a stroke since 2016.
Have you ever listened to the Reason podcast or to The Fifth Column? Even when guests on 5th and Kmele try to have a rational conversation about something Trump related, Matt invariably loses it and sprays invective over the top of them. His hatred of Trump is beyond any rational expression. He seems to be the embodiment of all things evil, a totem rather than a person. He has spent hours repeating every insipid rumor with the passion of the true believer. Even Moynihan, who is of the left of left, has remarked about the crazed passion Matt gets when mentioning Trump.
ENB usually tries to be more rational in her commentary... but still has bought every single bit of disinformation coming from this propaganda machine hook line and sinker.
I don't think any of them have confronted the fact that they got played for years and that every conclusion they came to long ago was built upon a raft of lies.
Of course, this is the normal human condition. It is one of the key developments in the skeptic science communication culture over the last decade or so.. an acknowledgement of how cognitive bias works. Once you have a "fact" in your head as a belief, you will reconstruct all other facts to support this belief. It is why being the first out with a story is so important. Once the narrative is set in the minds of the audience, any further facts will only be accepted if the support the narrative.
So we have a libertarian magazine filled with a staff that absolutely cannot see that they have been on the wrong side of some of the biggest stories for personal liberty and responsible government in our lifetime. This is why ENB thinks I hate her, instead of hearing me say "I want you to return this ship to its libertarian roots". Worse, she hears the great majority of libertarians as believing that censorship by Facebook and Twitter is actually a good thing. Confirmation bias means you are almost impossible to reach.
Remember the story of the journalist who went undercover in a mental institution back before Carter reformed things? He went around secretly taking notes so he would not be discovered. Then he figured out that nothing he said mattered. He quit hiding his notebook. He just told everyone the truth... thar he was an undercover investigative journalist. They just all believed it was a delusion. So he opened interviewed people.
He came to discover that there was no way at all to get out. Everything you do or say is further proof that you are crazy. Once the pattern is set, the mind simply finds a way to fit the facts to the pattern.
This is your reason staff.
They had a belief that was intentionally stoked by some clever marketing. So when Trump said his wires were tapped, it was simply proof that he was crazy. Matt wrote and spoke about this. Can you believe how crazy that is? Look how paranoid and narcissistic he is!!
And what happened a few weeks later when it was confirmed that he was indeed correct, they were tapping the phones? Did they all go apoplectic and demand an investigation?
No, they did not. They all said "of course they were tapping the phones. It is exactly as it should be. He was working with the Russians ". They never even paused. They didn't even notice that "only a crazy person would think that " had become "of course they were doing that, only a crazy person would object to that".
This same cycle played over and over again.
No fact could penetrate that armor. Even when the notes came out about a meeting in which the president of the United States conspired to frame a member of the incoming administration for a crime he did not commit, they took the opposite side. This, the group that publishes daily brickbats. The people who seeth with anger over small injustices in tiny towns where local governments overreach and act out of greed could not see how there was any problem at all with the director of the FBI, the director of the CIA and top DOJ officials plotting with the president and vice president and directing two fbi agents to go frame someone for a crime.
That is some powerful cognitive dissonance.
And it continues today.
The proof is uncontrovertable. The through-line is bigger than anything the guys at substack have yet written... since it is the same people working for the same objectives that were sitting in those meetings in 2016. Nobody has dug out that story yet, but it is the obvious conclusion.
All of those questions - how is it that every news outlet in the country suddenly uses the same phrase about a topic at the exact same time? The FBI, DHS, the CDC, a slew of think tanks and university centers are out there pushing a unified narrative, telling them exactly what to think, crafting a narrative to subvert any countervailing facts, giving them carefully constructed phrases to use.
And reason is sadly not immune. They should be the weirdo outsiders who can see the man behind the curtain. But they made the mistake of drinking just a little bit of the coolaid. And suddenly they could not see a libertarian story if it smacked them in the head.
"You have got to be joking..."
You're too kind. That steaming pile of TDS-addled lefty shit hasn't the ability to 'joke' about that. Simple, obvious, abysmal stupidity will suffice to easily explain it.
You can walk around with your fingers in your ears singing La-la-la-la at the top of your lungs all you want, but the fact remains that a group of left wing activists has been using the power of the federal government to subvert our elections for at least the last 2 presidential election cycles. In the process they have also subverted our free press, our ability to freely communicate and discuss ideas in public and our ability to freely associate.
I think that's going a bit far. Certain platforms were influenced, true. Platforms with a wide reach. But all of the suppressed stories were available elsewhere. These comments were full of links to what people described as censored information. It was all over the Daily Fail and other news outlets. Seemed readily available to anyone interested. So you can't convince me that it had an appreciable effect on either of the last two elections.
Fuck off and die, you pathetic pile of TDS-addled lefty shit.
"But all of the suppressed stories were available elsewhere."
"Sure Pravda and Izvestia wouldn't print it, but there were still private printing presses secretly banging out pamphlets."
I don't think Sarcasmic understands that any amount of government censorship is wrong.
It isn’t about that with him. You’re giving him way too much credit for any kind of a nuanced take on this, or anything really. It’s all about attacking Trump and defending democrats with him. Anything beyond that stopped penetrating that pickled excuse for a brain many years ago.
It generated enough support for 2 impeachments from the ignorant, and illegal/immoral tax return releases. Yes, It did deadly damage to the Republic. We may not ever recover.
I'm not sure we should.
Most of them were in on it. Guys like Nadler came out and made claims that went far beyond what they were told. This tells me he was no dupe of the inner cabal.
It takes a great deal of will and fortitude to look at the fact that you have been played hard and have believed it passionately for years. Very few can do that.
Acknowledging that the entire Trump investigation and impeachment was a lie is not possible for many people. It is documented as an ironclad fact in every detail... but the disinformation machine said it was just a bit of overzealousness and a tiny shading of a search warrant. So if you want to believe, you can pretend that this explains it and go on your way.
The same goes for this story. Sure, you could look at the fact that every single newspaper and every single TV network and every single social media network censored this story about Biden being on the take and see that this isn't some tiny thing that affected "a few platforms". But that is hard if you want desperately to believe that you were right all along, even if these small details don't align with that conclusion.... the big picture still says I am right.
Polls done by left wing outlets that showed that Democrat voters and independent voters in swing states would have voted the other way had they known the story was true don't matter. "I don't think it would have made a difference". The people casting votes said they thought it did... but I chose to ignore that.
See how it works? Cognitive bias makes you impervious to reality.
A respected journalist like Leslie Stahl knows that the emails on the Biden laptop have been corroborated by the other party. Yet she sits with Trump and insists that the laptop isn't verified.... it cannot be verified. It is unverifiable.
That is insane.
That is cognitive bias at work. And people like you look at that and see a perfectly rational interaction. I mean, we all know that even though Biden bragged about strong arming a foreign government over an issue that could not possibly be of any interest to our federal government but was of intense interest to a company who was paying his son millions... there is absolutely no reason to suspect he is on the take, right?
There is no set of facts that can penetrate.
It isn't "a few organizations" the FBI has made it clear... it isn't a few issues either. They have an entire team that works on any number of issues with "a lot or organizations" to ensure that they only report "the truth".
It isn't ambiguous. It isn't an edge case. We know unequivocally that every news organization in the country was corrupted by this operation. They all quoted the same "intelligence community sources" and they all used the identical phrases.
You are living proof of why propaganda is so dangerous. Once the propaganda sets the narrative, facts cannot change it.
How many people believe that Nick Sandmann blocked a peaceful native elder on his march because he is a racist Trump supporter? We have video proof and we have prior history. People still believe it. Not random moms... journalists who cover the story.
This is not about Twitter. Remember when you thought Twitter blocking conservative voices was just because the company wanted to? Remember when it was obvious that they had to censor people?
Now we know even those far left people didn't want to ban the people and topics that they banned. Yet they did. And so did Facebook. And so did YouTube. Because the FBI told them to.
And now you cannot believe it, even though every jot and tittle is documented for you. Because the pump was primed. You were pre-insulated against the truth.
Just like the FBI did with the laptop story.
You are Winston Smith. You have defeated the enemy, and you truly love Big Brother.
No rational person could look at "a huge group inside the government, run out of the intelligence community and outside the control of the elected leaders is monitoring what the people are discussing and is directing what can and cannot be disseminated" and come to the conclusion "no big deal. Nothing to see here"
If I had told any one of you, or any of the Reason editors that even 10% of this was going to happen, you would have flipped out and said it was impossible in the US where we believe in freedom and we have a constitution. No journalist would possibly cooperate... they have professional ethics and standards.
And yet, here we are. All of the most respected journalists in the country have been going along with it. Every social media platform is happy to oblige.
There are important psychological reasons why propaganda works. I just never dreamed I would live to experience it myself.
Jesus, you do go on.
Snowdon's disclosures were signficant in a shocking way; that the FBI is trying to (gasp!) fight crime is not particularly surprising--even if they don't always get it right.
Your strawmanning is probably second-to-none, though. Well done!
It wasn’t just some story about Hunter Biden’s laptop. They’ve been actively suppressing anyone who dares go against the orthodoxy on Covid policy.
Jesus H Science
Do you mean the outrageous 36-hour suppression of the NYPo story, by Twitter, which occurred during the Trump administration? That story?
Pretty much all of that.
"Democrats call for George Santos to resign over ‘whopping lies’"
https://www.aol.com/news/democrats-call-george-santos-resign-035419701.html
One was claiming you could keep your doctor if this bill passes, another was claiming to be part Amer-indian.
Oh, wait...
That was their lies [never mind the shit Biden says, on a daily basis]; when it's the other guy's lies, well that is just outrageous. Can't even.
LOL can you imagine if the new standard is "you must resign if you lied"
Incredible to even see this being promoted with a straight face.
There are no rules.
Only weapons.
To be fair, it is insane.
It is also a symptom of our failed 4th estate. Nobody was doing any reporting. They only do hot takes and wait for their handlers to tell them what to say. So when the DNC failed to dig any of this up, nobody else even looked.
I have scorn for this idiot. But even more scorn for a press that abdicated its civic duty decades ago and became mouthpieces for those in power. Time was, a journalist in New York would have had the political beat and would have easily uncovered these lies.
"...But even more scorn for a press that abdicated its civic duty decades ago and became mouthpieces for those in power..."
Walter Duranty; do I need to post more?
The legacy press has been lying to us for a very long time; start with Hearst asking for lies to start the Spanish-American war, then the source offering "all the news that's fit to print" covering the murder of millions of Slavs.
Our resident scumbags Tony and Misek excuse the left's mass murder for scumbag reasons.
I don't and I doubt many here do
To the extent lies were told to secure votes, that seems a reasonable basis for calling for an elected politician to resign.
You could even call it "voter fraud".
https://twitter.com/realchrisrufo/status/1609954295767515136?t=VBprVCUBSOJTo7PDRid2Yw&s=19
The federal government is now funding an initiative to train AI to censor social media content. The NSF-backed program promises to "detect and intervene" in cases of "gendered microaggressions," "dehumanizing metaphors," and "disguised toxicity."
Get ready: woke AI is coming.
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What about undisguised toxicity?
https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1609964698425868293?t=sdaHJeFnkjxiYMedhm8jYQ&s=19
Remember when Biden got the Ukrainian prosecutor fired for investigating Hunter/Burisma?
Well on Dec. 27 the USVI AG filed a lawsuit against JPMorgan for helping Jeffrey Epstein
Biden flew to USVI & the AG was fired days later
What a coincidence!
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So what you're saying is that you think it's perfectly valid to punish banks for providing financial services to bad people? Or did you not think through how this would play out?
Biden flew to USVI & the AG was fired days later
Think back to when this happened before . I can’t wait for SleepyJoe to brag about it.
Except here, he's the US President and the USVI are a US territory. If you're going to complain about him firing a US attorney (who probably deserved to be fired) you're obliged to complain about DeSantis for firing the state attorney in Florida. It's essentially the same thing.
Plus, this guy sounds like he deserved to be fired. We don't want banks to be narcs who are constantly reporting everything to the Feds. You SHOULD have an expectation of privacy in your banking transactions.
I keep forgetting it’s cool if Joe is the king.
you think it’s perfectly valid to punish banks for providing financial services to bad people?
I don't know about valid - but punishing banks (the People through the Banks) it is and has been the law since at least the Patriot Act with sliding scales and shifting definitions of 'bad'. And muh private sector banks (blackrock and paypal for starters) have been canceling 'bad' people left and right.
Ah, if you want to be taken seriously, please compose your replies with quotes and separated replies or please fuck off; we have far too many ignoramuses on both sides already.
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Now imagine what would be in the Facebook and Google emails.
^^ THIS ^^.....
If the government is controlling Twitter there is no question they are 'owning' Facebook and Google and most likely funding their survival with grants/subsidies at taxpayer expense.
This won't end until there are consequences for government officials.
Guilty of government censorship = participating employee(s) fired from government never to be rehired by that government (Federal or State), directly or via an intermediary. That ought to do it.
Charged with treason; Exactly what that charge describes. Which would evict them from ever holding office again by the US Constitution.
Warner and Clinton (a per Twitter files release) would be on that list this week.
Let's see, then. The government official ultimately responsible for such "government censorship" during 2020 was...
Yes, that ought to do it!
"...Let’s see, then. The government official ultimately responsible for such “government censorship” during 2020 was…"
Gee, TDS-addled pile of shit assumes Trump engineers plot against Trump.
It is possible to be this stupid; check out ObviouslyNotSpam
Fuck off and die, asshole.
The First Article of Ammendment clearly puts the main restriction upon the Congress. Article One of the cnstitution also declares plainly that ONLY congress has the power to make law.
Thus if some other entity does what is effectively "making law" they are violating the Constitution. One example of this might be PayPal or Twitter establishing as binding policy with "unpleasant" consequences for "disobeying" rules or policies which they claim give them authority to fine, banish, terminate accounts, etc, for certain actions by their customers. These rules have the effect of law, equating these "prohibited" actions with crimes and attendant punishments. Thus while these outfits might be clear of culpability in violating the First Artile of Ammendment, they are NOT clear of violating Article One gerarding who can make law.
Now when it comes to the Second Article of Ammendment it is noteworthy that this Article is NOT prefaced with any limitations as who and which entities are proscribed infringing our right to arms.. This the clear meaning of that Second Article of Ammendment is NOT limited to government may not infringed. Note that prohibition is in the passive voice... it does not bind any individual entity from infringing upon our right to arms, it states that this infringement WILL NOT BE PERMITTED and provides no fence round about who/what entity might be considering infringement of those rights.
Private parties do not "make law", no matter how hard you squint at it.
So maybe we should just let the Supreme Court do the constitutional interpretation, shall we?
No we shouldn’t abdicate our personal responsibility to value, discern and demand truth.
Not doing so, is corruption. Nobody is perfect, some are corrupt. We shouldn’t blindly follow anyone.
Truth can never be refuted. Intelligent people can refute lies with correctly applied logic and science. It takes virtue to value doing so.
If someone doesn’t value truth, what could they possibly have to say that anyone needs to hear?