Canada Threatens Free Speech in the Guise of Nationalistic Obsessions
Demands by lawmakers and government officials for locally produced content may lead to online censorship.
Canada's government seems determined to shed the country's reputation as a liberal democracy that values civil liberties. The Trudeau cabinet's move earlier in 2022 to financially isolate critics of its restrictive pandemic policies were more than a little chilling. Now several years of constant effort to tame the give-and-take of the internet culminate in legislation that seeks to bring much online speech under state control.
At issue at the moment are actually two bills, C-11 and C-18. C-18 is similar to an earlier Australian law that requires digital platforms to pay for links to news articles. That law resulted in a negotiated compromise after Facebook and other outfits blocked links to Australian news sources. With the tech giants following a similar playbook up north, expect parallel results.
Of greater concern is C-11, which purports to further the government's long-time obsession with promoting Canadian-generated content (known as CanCon) without regard to audience preferences.
"The Act plays an important role in supporting Canada's cultural industries and ensuring Canadian content is available and accessible," insists the Minister of Justice's required statement about the bill. "The Bill would provide the Commission with new powers to regulate online services, and update the Commission's regulatory powers as they relate to traditional broadcasters."
Critics say it goes too far in extending the authority of the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission over much online content, no matter what officials claim.
"Under Bill C-11, all platforms hosting audiovisual content that are not specifically excluded must make financial contributions to producing officially recognized 'CanCon'—currently defined by a 1980s-era points system built around legacy media broadcast media," explains OpenMedia, which favors changes in the legislation. "Under Bill C-11 platforms must also make CanCon 'discoverable' by filling our feeds and search results with a mandatory quota of official CanCon content, or face stiff financial penalties from the CRTC."
That raises concerns across the board, but especially for small content producers with limited resources.
"The widespread concern over Bill C-11 has largely focused on the potential CRTC regulation of user content. Despite repeated assurances from the government that 'users are out, platforms are in', the reality is that the bill kept the door open to regulating such content," Michael Geist, a law professor at the University of Ottawa, pointed out earlier this month. "The language in the bill is clear: Section 4.2 grants the CRTC the power to establish regulations on programs (which includes audio and audiovisual content by users). The provision identifies three considerations for the Commission, most notably if the program 'directly or indirectly generates revenues.' The revenue generation provision is what led many digital creators to argue they were caught by the bill and for TikTok to conclude that any video with music would also fall within the ambit of the legislation."
Federal officials did little to soothe concerns by calling for investigations of opponents of the legislation. Then CRTC Chair Ian Scott tried to calm critics by assuring them that "we're not interested in individual uploaded content."
"Indeed, and yet that is the clear language of the act," responded Sen. Paula Simons, an independent representing Alberta.
Senators proposed amendments to exclude content generated by individuals who don't have the resources to comply with intrusive red tape. But there's no guarantee the changes will be adopted. Even the amendments leave a regulatory morass to be navigated by the public.
"Bill C-11 could result in an outflow of talent from the Canadian market," reports The Hub's Geoff Russ. "At least one prominent Canadian YouTuber who runs the popular channel SomeOrdinaryGamers has said they may have to leave Canada if the bill passes without changes."
And the concerns don't stop there.
"Justin Trudeau's government is seizing control of the internet and granting itself sweeping new powers that turn its communications regulator into a political puppet," cautions Peter Menzies, former vice-chair of the CRTC and now a senior fellow with the Macdonald-Laurier Institute. He quotes Len St-Aubin, formerly director general of telecommunications policy with the federal government, as saying, "whether you're one of Canada's YouTube stars like Skyship Entertainment, a broadcaster like CBC and Global, or a major streamer like Disney and Netflix, cabinet will have the power to tell the CRTC how to regulate you … For Canadians, that opens the door to state-controlled media."
State-controlled media seems a long way from nationalistic legislation supposedly crafted to promote domestic media at the expense of content produced beyond the country's borders, no matter how ill-considered and clumsy the law might be. But wide-ranging expansion of government power to regulate the media will inherently limit the options available to Canadians.
"Smaller streaming services that aren't able or willing to create CanCon-mandated content or pay into the [Canada Media Fund] may choose to exclude themselves from the Canadian market altogether, blocking us from even accessing their content," notes OpenMedia.
That's likely to reduce Canadians' media options to large companies that have established and cozy relations with the government and that have to stay on the good side of regulators, themselves. Given that regulators have the power to determine what constitutes "Canadian" content, to promote that which receives its approval, and to penalize anybody or anything deemed insufficiently Canadian, getting crosswise with officials could be dangerous.
"Ultimately, Bill C-11 is about government power: through this legislation, the government wants bureaucrats to have the power to decide what is Canadian content online and what is not, even though the government has not presented a roadmap of exactly how the CRTC would make such a determination," warns the Canadian Taxpayers Federation in a report titled "Bill C-11: A Fatally Flawed Gateway to Government Censorship."
If nothing else, Canada's legislators are demonstrating that laws need not directly target dissent and threaten censorship in order to control and suppress speech. Any regulation of expression is a dangerous extension of state power.
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Fuck Castreau
Castreau's a fuckin' hoser, eh.
Weren’t Bob and Doug McKenzie created to goof on the whole Canadian content silliness?
Yes. The Kanadian Korner was created because of two reasons:
1. The CBC has fewer commercials than US television creating an extra few minutes that needed to be filled, and
2. The CBC demanded distinct Canadian content during those few minutes.
Thus, Bob and Doug were born to mock this requirement, eh.
Now take off, hoser!
But it was National [USA] Lampoon that kept them from using the name "Canadian Corner" in favor of "Great White North". Because NatLamp had its own "Canadian Corner", whose contents consisted of an American's plan to take over Canada.
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And they are still in prison for that.
Oh My Good Government Almighty!!! (Hallowed Be It's Holy Name). Canadians NEED a Section 230, and they need it BADLY!!!!
And... WHO would have EVER thunk of shit!?!? Canadians like Marxist Mammary-Necrophilia-Fuhrer (AKA Mother's Lament, with a head of cement) would lust after MARXIST CONTROL OF THE INTER-TUBES?!?!? Color me SHOCKED!!!
What would 230 have to do with mandatory content origins, you lying, censorious fuck?
It’s becoming pretty apparent that you don’t even know what is in 230, and you’re just using it to troll.
"What would 230 have to do with mandatory content origins..."?
Do you have a BRAIN? The FIRST thing that happens, with a smart person, is that they READ the article. From there:
"The Bill would provide the Commission with new powers to regulate online services, and update the Commission's regulatory powers as they relate to traditional broadcasters."
The SECOND thing that happens when a smart person reads something, is that they THINK about it. So Government Almighty SAYS that they will hammer the "traditional broadcasters", or those who USE or LINK TO their creations (or do so without paying). Oh, no, says Government Almighty, we're NOT going after the "little guys" who make posts and use the links to, or content of, the "big guys". Basic Government Almighty stupid-and-evil thinking, for those of us who know a damned thing, is to ALWAYS say they're going after the BIG guys and the money-makers, NEVER the "little guy".
So what is the FIRST thing that happens under this pile of shit? People ("little people") grab contents and make links and posts to small sites, overseas sites, unregulated sites, 4-chan, what have you, to bypass the new regs on the "big guys"! Then inevitably Government Almighty sees it's not working, and the hammer next comes down on... Guess who? The LITTLE guys, and overseas sites! Next thing that you know, Government Almighty will set up national-boundaries giant filters on their internet, "Great Wall of China" style!
Marxist Mammary-Necrophilia-Fuhrer and comrades will be SURE to find someone THEM_NOT_US to blame, for sure!
Ranting doesn't prove your point, Shillsy. Nothing in 230 has any bearing or relevance to the substance and objective of Bill C-11. Canada could have both and neither would violate the other.
How did you get so fucking stupid anyway?
Stupid bitch can't read! READ what I posted! READ the below out-take of the above article!
"The widespread concern over Bill C-11 has largely focused on the potential CRTC regulation of user content. Despite repeated assurances from the government that 'users are out, platforms are in', the reality is that the bill kept the door open to regulating such content," Michael Geist, a law professor at the University of Ottawa, pointed out earlier this month. (End import).
You bypassed Big Guys (Government Almighty and media alike) by sending me an unregulated copy of regulated shit on a chat board! PUNISHMENT for YOU, sooner or later!
READ THE FUCKING ARTICLE, stupid twat! More from the article...
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Again, none of that has anything to do with 230.
I'm now convinced that you have no fucking clue as to what 230 is even about. You're such a trolly lunatic.
Idiot! S-230 is what protects Reason.com from being punished for what I post, when I post links to servers based in Canada, North Korea, or Mars! Reason can NOT be punished for what I post!
Now Canadian Marxists (like YOU, Marxist Mammary-Necrophilia-Fuhrer) in Canadian Government Almighty lust after putting their filthy mitts on the scales of the "big guys" to favor Canadian big-media content. With 230-like protections, Canadian users can have a field day, posting foreign (non-Canadian) links to social media and comments on news sites, all day, every day, AS ENABLED BY S-230-TYPE PROTECTIONS, to bypass the grubby mitts of Canadian Government Almighty!!!!
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Good question. What is SQRLSY’s origin story.
Look up ownership of 4-chan... Sites based in USA so as to bypass Japanese Government Almighty regulations, for use of 4chan in Japan, for example.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/18/business/4chan-hiroyuki-nishimura.html#:~:text=Hiroyuki%20Nishimura%20has%20become%20a,of%20the%20notorious%20website%204chan. (Is paywalled, but I think free if you register, ???).
Also...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4chan
It’s based in the USA because 4chan was started in America, by an American called Christopher Poole, you stupid fuck. It’s never been Japanese.
It was only sold to Nishimura years later. Foreigners buy American businesses all the time without moving them to their homeland.
You could have not embarrassed yourself by actually reading the Wikipedia article you linked to first.
Nishimura is Japanese, you stupid twat! And if you read the NY Times article, it is all made VERY plain that 4-chan is popular in Japan, VERY popular, and 4chan gets away with it (flipping the bird at traditional Japanese ways) ONLY because the servers are in the USA, out of reach of Japanese Government Almighty!
Marxist Mammary-Necrophilia-Fuhrer and comrades "solution" for Japan? Put up an internet "Great Wall of Japan", no doubt!
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"Nishimura is Japanese, you stupid twat!"
SO FUCKING WHAT!
4chan was an American company at its inception and stayed an American company.
Are you so fucking stupid as to think an American company switches nationalities because the individual who bought it is from overseas?
You obviously are.
I knew you were a moron, but fuck.
Nishimura calls the shots for 4chan, and THIS is a method by which Japanese "trouble-makers" can bypass Japanese Government Almighty (servers based in USA, out of Japanese control). Nishimura could move elsewhere, and change citizenshit, etc., and that wouldn't matter much. The same thing will happen when Canadian Government Almighty gets too large for its britches. THE PHYSICAL LOCATION OF THE SERVERS is what matters, NOT their past history of ownership! Duh!
That Mutha's Regret creep still pollutes this space? Grabber-Of-Pussy Trumpanzee televangelism is persistent.
At least they have the right guy in charge this time, right?
It's the family business.
Why is it wrong for them to eliminate foreign influence in their elections?
Good point. If it wasn't for that pesky 1A we could eliminate foreign influence in our elections. But only when it favors Democrats. Russian ads on Facebook are totally kosher.
I’d settle for keeping the CIA and FBI out of our elections.
But that would favor republicans though wouldn’t it?
Everybody's a die hard ACAB advocate until the Fibbies start investigating political candidates, then they're just another sarcasmic-style copsucker.
Your what hurts?
I didn't say anything hurts. I said the FBI shouldn't be spying on Presidential candidates.
And you don't have to be any sort of doctor to see that someone calling you a copsucker causes you psychological and/or physiological discomfort that you almost reflexively deflect from yourself and project onto others.
The only way you could be more stereotypical about it is if your ex-wife left you for a cop.
I'm just not a huge fan of people telling lies about me. I guess that makes me odd.
Funny you say "Presidential candidates." Does that include investigating the other team, or just yours?
2016 Democrats blame Facebook for their person losing so sarcasmic laughs at them and calls them sore losers. Democrats say he’s a hardcore conservative.
2020 Republicans blame Twitter for their person losing so sarcasmic laughs at them and calls them sore losers. Republicans say he’s a hardcore progressive.
Both teams are utterly pathetic.
And now you’re talking about yourself in the third person.
Fucking weirdo.
Not only did you not laugh at the Democrats, you bought into their "Trump campaign coordinated with Russia/Trump's a Russian spy" scam.
The stuff you previously posted here doesn't just disappear when you decide to change your story, Sarcles.
But each Kleptocracy gang convinces about half (72M) of the nonlibertarian voters that the other half will rob, rape, torture and kill them if victorious. This is overstatement bordering on the misleading, but the yokels lap it up. THAT borders on pathos!
They both are pathetic, but let's not pretend that those two things are equal. Because one was essentially one side accusing the site...of allowing people to post news articles that made democrats look bad. And the other is the other side accusing the team of using government power to influence Twitter and other sites to remove content that the left disagreed with and that made the democrats look bad.
And for a bit, you could actually argue that maybe Twitter and other sites really did just have some left leaning bias that influenced them to censor those on the right (and libertarians). Even though a few of the instances of censorship like the Hunter Biden laptop scandal showed their bias was strong.
But now that it has been proven that the government was indeed working from within Twitter, it's likely they also were doing the same with other big social media sites as well and so the things the right accused them of hold a lot more weight now. In comparison, no matter how much the left screamed about muh Russian interference, to the point they tried impeaching Trump multiple times, they could never actually prove it. Funnily enough, I've lurked here for years and I could have sworn you were screaming about it as well.
The other thing the right accused the left of doing is just as serious. I'm talking about the election fraud. To be honest, if we're going by just what the right has shown, I don't think it holds much if any water. But I do think it is suspicious that for a bit the left more or less admitted to doing it. They walked this back since, but they still seem to occasionally act "guilty". And now with the whole twitter revelations I wouldn't put it past them to have done it.
Now I don't like either side. I don't think either is "my friend". But as to the side that is the least likely to be "my friend" it is definitely the left. Because as I said above, their biggest problem with facebook was that it didn't censor enough. And in 2020, their biggest problem with Twitter was, that because it didn't censor enough, it made the instances that it did censor people really stand out. They have made it clear that they don't care about the first amendment, and they basically see the constitution itself as something to ignore or work around. Hence why they tried using Twitter and other websites to work around the first amendment.
I didn't like Trump, but just two years in and I already hate Sleepy Joe much more. I don't know how you all did it, but you managed to pick people that make Trump's worse decisions look amazing. And every time his people try to make him look good, it always seems to backfire. Like the time his PR guy tried drawing attention to how much social security payments went up, only to draw attention to how bad inflation was instead.
Poor sarc.
It’s getting comical , but really sad.
And evil.
Comedy is always sad. It's how humans deal with the pain of humanity.
What's wrong with nationalism? From what I read in the comments, if you're not a nationalist then you're not a patriot.
Do you ever get tired of building all these strawmen?
Poor sarc.
Canada's cultural industries
Maple syrup *and* Hockey?
Not that there should be a law, but it seems like a trivial issue for TikTok or whomever to geo-fence, encapsulate a two-item search, and promote the content within the fence.
Maple syrup *and* Hockey?
Kraft Dinner and Canadian Tuxedos.
Kraft Dinner with ketchup and the Windsor ballet.
I now understand, completely, the offensiveness of the promoted content.
JFC, it sounds like you'd be getting a combination of strippers and ketchup on deep dish pizza at the top of every search!
"Dijon ketchups, even!" 🙂
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Canada has always been this way. I suppose suggesting there is something untoward about even questioning the ruling coalition's legislation is a somewhat new twist, but Canada has always been a culture neurotically insecure about itself and has a nationalist authoritarian bent based on that inferiority complex.
That Trudeau is a Woke Cartman, angry about opponents disrespecting his authority is icing on the cake.
Woke Cartman with a flappy head.
Don't forget that every stupid, fascist idea that's implemented in Canada finds its genesis in America's left coasts.
"Canada has always been a culture neurotically insecure about itself and has a nationalist authoritarian bent based on that inferiority complex."
This is true, but only really applies to Ottawa (Southern Ontario + Montréal).
Ottawa is insecure because Canada isn't really a country. It's at least three, maybe six with different cultures, histories and settling populations, and it's terrified of losing control over them... or even worse, ceding power to the Western half.
The Western half is linked to the East only by a single road and two rail lines. It's far more culturally and physically linked to the Plains and the Pacific Northwest, than Ontario, with thousands of roads and rail lines connecting them. Ottawa has no interest in the West outside of taxing its enormous resource wealth to prop up social programs in the East, and whenever it does show interest it's usually abusive. Like killing the golden goose by destroying its oil, timber and potash industries.
It also goes out of its way to prevent political power moving West where the population is growing and more dynamic. Much of its fear of Western political power stems from brutally putting down a rebellion in the West called the Riel Rebellion in its formative years.
The BC Lower Mainland is a colony of China and India and doesn't care what country it's a part of as long as they don't bother it. Ottawa largely ignores it.
The North (most of Canada) is populated by First Nations and Inuit and is also ignored.
Quebec speaks a different language and has wanted to be its own country since the British conquered it. Most of Ottawa's political machinations in the last 100 years are directed at stopping separation.
Newfoundland was it's own country until 1949 when it was basically tricked into joining Canada. Like Quebec it has its own culture and unique history, and arguably language. Fearful that it might leave, Ottawa went out of its way to make it welfare dependent.
Southern Ontario and the Maritimes - Canada proper. The original Canada, where it began and the only one Ottawa actually cares about.
While I knew most of that history, your spin puts a very interesting political context to it. Thanks!
Exactly. If you thought the US was a mess, Canada says "hold my Molson".
Now several years of constant effort to tame the give-and-take of the internet culminate in legislation that seeks to bring much online speech under state control.
Not under state control, under Trudeau and the Progressives control. As in the US, most of the government is reflexively Progressive. Put a conservative in charge of it and you'll see them do 180's that'll make your head spin. Didn't there used to be a Berkeley Free Speech movement led by leftists? Weren't leftists once in favor of color-blind racial policies? Didn't leftists once counsel never to trust The Man? Why are these things now suddenly sure indicators of a right-wing ideology?
I seem to recall Republicans having a hardon for "fake news" that went flaccid when they lost the White House.
Rough day in the trailer park?
Trailer park? I think you'd have trouble finding the underside of a rock that hasn't had a discussion of The Twitter Files within earshot/4G cell tower radius.
I thought that that story was completely censored by the news, and only Reason commentariat with superpowers were able to glean any information about it.
The FBI told the media to censor it, and they obeyed.
So they send bounty hunters to capture women who escape involuntary labor in servitude. Maybe it's more exciting to Grabbers Of Pussy when the weaker sex resists?
No no no. This is "bad nationalism". Because someone on Team Blue is doing it.
"Good nationalism" is when someone on Team Red does it.
When your team is in power, nationalism is good. When not, well not so much.
Jesus, you don’t even try anymore.
"Because someone on Team Blue is doing it.
“Good nationalism” is when someone on Team Red does it."
It's Canada you stupid fuck. There are no Democrats and Republicans.
If you're trying to infer Conservatives and Liberals, then you've fucked up again because the Conservative color is blue and the Liberal Party's is red.
You really are a particularly stupid hoser there, Jeffy. Not everywhere is the US, eh.
"Canada's government seems determined to shed the country's reputation as a liberal democracy that values civil liberties. "
Canadians have defined themselves in opposition to the US for a century or more now. They never valued civil liberties except to the extent it was possible to virtue signal against the US.
No free speech? That is not a recent thing in Canada. Collective 'rights' that trample on the rights of individuals? Long time policy there.
How many years ago did Jordan Peterson achieve fame for refusing to use government mandated pronouns?
You see kids, it doesn’t matter how much the government harasses you, as long as you don’t go to prison.
How many decades ago were the characters Bob and Doug McKenzie invented to mock Canadian content laws?
1980, eh. Now take off, you hoser.
That was the point of the movie? I'm asking because the last time I saw it I was in grade school.
Yes, for real. Bob and Doug McKenzie were literally created by the two Canadian comedians to mock the Canadian content laws.
They created two so-completely-obvious stereotypical Canadian characters as a kind of jest about what "Canadian content" would sound like.
I learned this about ten fifteen years ago when either Rick Moranis or the other guy were being interviewed about those characters.
To answer your specific question, it was not the "point" of the movie per se. I think the movie came along as a result of the popularity of the characters. The characters were initially created for radio (if I recall correctly) and then their popularity slowly spread across Canada and the US and then the schtick evolved from there.
Cool. Thanks for that tidbit of useless information. I may go watch the movie again.
It was TV, SCTV to be specific. Rick Moranis and Dave Thomas (and the rest of the crew) were a little ticked at the demands from the CBC so they decided to mock it as much as possible. Thus, The Great White North was born.
Wiki gets the details right: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_and_Doug_McKenzie
I knew they had taken the characters to SCTV, which is of course where their popularity spread to the US. I thought that they had done early bits with them on Canadian Radio. But it wouldn't be the first thing I've been wrong about.
No, but some other SCTV characters had previously been done on (American) radio.
If you're at all interested on "obviously Canadian content", here's a more modern comedy sketch from a new generation.
That is perhaps the best scene from the show. And I'm pretty sure Letterkenny also exists because a TV network needed some Canadian content.
No, they were created ca. 1979 for the second or so season of Second City TV, as was explained in the first iteration of the skit. They were told the show required whatever percentage of Canadian content, so they made as insulting a caricature of Canadians as they could come up with. They wanted to call it "Canadian Corner", but National Lampoon already had a column by that name consisting of the ranting of some American organizing his plot to conquer and take over Canada. "Great White North" was so funny it was unexpectedly brought back repeatedly and eventually spun off the characters to various media. Only fitting, because SCTV's other characters were partly carried over by their creators from the National Lampoon Radio Hour and Second City improvs — for instance, Harold Ramis as Moe Green.
Good day, I'm Bob McKenzie, this is my brother Doug.
How's it goin', eh?
That was the point of the original Kanadian Korner on SCTV (aka The Great White North) with Bob and Doug MacKenzie. It gave rise to two albums (one with Rush vocalist Geddy Lee - Take Off) and the movie Strange Brew.
Now take off, eh?
Dude, you're supposed to eat poutine. Not use it as a suppository.
You think B and D were just a movie?
But you'll 'educate' us on the real Canada?
The very fact that they were government mandated is the part you just gloss over in your hurry to fail to make a point.
Like a typical European country, Canada’s Civil rights protections come with large embedded caveats that enable the legislature to override them far easier than the US Constitution allows Congress (it is part of what “American exceptionalism” actually refers to rather than simple jingoism).
Don't forget that every stupid idea Trudeau is pushing originated in American universities on your left coasts.
Let's not neglect the ivies on the east coast.
Just to be clear, Canada has always been a left-wing nationalist nation.
Actually, it hasn't. Canada, for example, never had a "New Deal". Most of Canada's vaunted welfare programs were established in the 1960s as ideas that came out of British and American universities and radical movements that were generally rejected in the US, were adopted there.
A lot of it came about with the rapid expansion of universities and the resulting hiring of large numbers of American and British academics. Many of the Americans were Democrats who were disappointed that the New Deal had never gone "far enough" and the Brits were generally Labourites likewise upset that socialism hadn't gotten as firmly established as they would have liked.
A consequence of Canada rejecting New Deal type programs in Canada was that the Depression, while bad, was not as severe in Canada as it was in the USA. Oddly enough it was the Conservative Party in Canada that tried heavy interventionist policies and they were soundly defeated in 1935 by William Lyon Mackenzie King (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Lyon_Mackenzie_King).
The Liberals had largely been a pro-business party until Lester Pearson took control in 1958. After that and more particularly after Trudeau-pere was elected leader the party took a fairly radical left turn and largely adopted the platform of the NDP.
It’s all more complicated than that, of course, but the Reason comment section doesn’t really allow for grand exposition.
A consequence of Canada rejecting New Deal type programs in Canada was that the Depression, while bad, was not as severe in Canada as it was in the USA.
Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta had actual starvation. My great grandmother was raiding trashcans in Regina as a child because Ottawa didn't give a fuck about what happened east of the Soo.
But it was largely exacerbated by Ottawa offering to bail out loans and then changing their mind and seizing the farms of those who took the offer. Ontario railroad execs aided the problem by offering big bucks on cattle and grain to struggling farmers, and then charged unannounced exorbitant shipping charges for shipping to Ontario after farmers dropped their cattle at company stockyards and grain at company elevators. Sometimes pennies for a steer.
Your great grandmother's experience in Saskatchewan (or Saskaberia as one of the wags at Grylliade named it) was possibly part of the reason that the only socialist government ever elected beyond the local level in North America was elected in that Province in 1944 and held power for the next twenty years.
Keep in mind, the Commonwealth Cooperative Federation Party (CCF) was not one of your mealy-mouthed, wishy-washy Social-Democratic parties, they were serious "the workers should take over the means of production" socialists. The Regina Manifesto said as much.
Canadian dry laws were provincial, and though Ontario flipflopped and taxed illegal drugs and beer in 1926 (this the US Suprema Corte did in 1927), Ontario repealed alcohol prohibition 29MAR1928. A year later the suicidal Jones Law made beer a felony stateside. That and busting bank cartels financing illegal liquor and dope smuggling were leading causes of The Crash. Exporting even more hysterical drug laws angered other nations into withdrawing investment from the USA. Foreign money instead backed belligerent national socialists. Happy now?
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But it's another in, isn't it? They use the drivel about keeping it Canadian, but its really all about control of the media.
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a. Strange Brew is a must-see. Von Sydow at his best.
b. Three Pines is entertaining on Prime.
This movie was shot in 3B – three beers – and it looks good, eh?
/This is what happens when you're originally from Canada's 11th province.
oh fuck and I totally forgot their 12 Days of Christmas ... four pounds of back bacon.
And a beer.
Whether or not Canada should further regulate the internet for Canadian content, the real question here is how authoritarians propose to regulate anything without a physical presence in their own jurisdictions. The example I've been using to illustrate the question is: How will Russia prevent Ukrainians from using Musk's Starlink to coordinate their resistance to Russian aggression in their country? How will Trudeau prevent Canadians from watching whatever they like using Musk's satellites to access the internet? What if Parliament sends a bill for a tax contribution to Canadian content to San Francisco and no one there pays the protection racket off?
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Whether or not Canada should further regulate the internet for Canadian content, the real question here is how authoritarians propose to regulate anything without a physical presence in their own jurisdictions.
Never underestimate the government's ability to regulate something through sheer force of will.
"...through sheer force of violence and threats of violence, and property confiscations", might be more accurate or more detailed. Russia right now, for example, is "regulating" Ukraine, or trying to!
Speaking of Russian tyranny, 400 people were arrested last year in Russia for social media posts.
In the UK, 3000 were arrested.
Well, posting something online may be subject to punishment by your government since you're physically present and subject to their authority. Watching content over Starlink, especially if it's untraceable with block-chain technology would be much harder to punish. And punishing the source of non-Canadian content would be almost impossible.
You just punish the people caught consuming it.
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The question is not the desire ... the question is the capability! How do you catch I consumer you cannot identify or find?
Yeah man! Secure VPN like Tunnel-Bear for example! (I used to use it, it was OK, but I am no longer paranoid about anything enough to care about such things any more.)
Good point.
They impose rules and laws via the OECD, the WTO, the IMF, and various other international organizations.
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Hey, this doesn't have to be all bad.
When the Euros pulled this stunt in the '50s and '60s, sure we got Brunel's "The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie', but we also got the Spaghetti Westerns!
A requirement for "locally produced content" is really the least of Canada's problems with free speech and liberty at this point.
I mean they literally threw a father in jail for not using his daughter's Preferred Pronouns™, so...
OMGA (Oh My Government Almighty), I had NOT heard of that!
https://www.opindia.com/2021/03/canadian-man-jailed-for-calling-his-biologically-female-child-as-daughter/
Today's news--another collective shooting of unarmed people, this one "close to Toronto," had to mean Buffalo or Detroit, right? Turns out it meant Canada's new local content legislation is providing the usual Unintended Consequences. Trudeau wants political power, yet scorns "guns that are designed to kill the largest number of people as quickly as possible." But political power is the time derivative of capacity to kill, just as mechanical power is the time derivative of the capacity to do work.
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