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Elon Musk

Elon Musk Kicks Tech Journalists, Mastodon Off Twitter

Plus: Sen. Mike Lee wants to remove First Amendment protections for porn, IRS doxxes taxpayers, and more...

Elizabeth Nolan Brown | 12.16.2022 9:31 AM

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Twitter expands definition of doxxing to include links to publicly available information. Twitter CEO Elon Musk has suspended the accounts of multiple tech journalists. The suspended journalists include reporters for Mashable, CNN, The New York Times, and The Washington Post. Musk also suspended the account of the decentralized social network Mastodon.

Musk's move comes after he suspended an account (@ElonJet) that shared publicly available information about his flight plans. A few weeks ago, Musk made a big deal about not banning the account, tweeting "my commitment to free speech extends even to not banning the account following my plane." But like so many of Musk's free speech principles, this one appears to have been short-lived.

Musk claimed the @ElonJet account violated Twitter's policy against doxxing—revealing private information about another person. That's a stretch, since Musk's flight plans come from public records. But doxxing tends to get defined vaguely and broadly these days, and at least the @ElonJet account could plausibly fall somewhere within these parameters.

Meanwhile, Mastodon was banned simply for linking to an account on its platform that tracked Musk's jet. Now, "many links to Mastodon no longer work on Twitter, which flags them as 'potentially harmful,'" notes TechCrunch.

Washington Post journalist Drew Harwell then shared a screenshot of Mastodon's tweet; he was suspended. Pundit Keith Olbermann called on people to retweet Harwell; Olbermann was then suspended, too. It's unclear for how long any of these accounts will be suspended.

It's also unclear precisely what got each of the suspended journalists the boot, but Musk implied they were all guilty of violating Twitter's anti-doxxing policy. "So far, i've been able to confirm about half the accounts suspended posted links to the jet tracker thing," tweeted Founders Fund Vice President Mike Solana, to which Musk responded: "Same doxxing rules apply to 'journalists' as to everyone else."

The suspended tech reporters don't seem to have actually doxxed Musk by any normal understanding of the word. But earlier this week, Twitter's doxxing policy was updated to make the @ElonJet account and people sharing links to Musk's (public!) flight information elsewhere a direct violation. As recently as Tuesday, it said that you couldn't share "home address or physical location information, including street addresses, GPS coordinates or other identifying information related to locations that are considered private." Now, it includes "live location information, including information shared on Twitter directly or links to 3rd-party URL(s) of travel routes, actual physical location, or other identifying information that would reveal a person's location, regardless if this information is publicly available." In other words: Twitter changed its doxxing policy precisely to target activity that seemed to bother Musk.

Twitter is a private company, so it can certainly ban users—including journalists—for any or no reason. But Musk's decision to do so is one more nail in the coffin of the "free speech absolutist" label he was posturing toward.

It's also yet more evidence that the new Twitter isn't going to be better than the old Twitter, which was given to silly-seeming reasons for bans and sometimes stretching its terms and conditions to justify action against inflammatory or controversial accounts. Arguably, Musk's Twitter is even worse, since these moves are not being made by misguided, low-level content moderators or a team of deliberating individuals but the whims of one thin-skinned dude who also happens to be the head of the company.

Say what you will about Jack Dorsey, Twitter's founder and former head, but he stayed relatively removed from day-to-day suspension and banning decisions, and was never known to take action against anyone for criticizing, mocking, or reporting badly on him.

Meanwhile, Musk is establishing a pattern of lashing out against people who seem to anger or offend him personally—and changing Twitter's official policies in order to justify it. Last month, Musk suspended the accounts of people who were parodying him after changing Twitter's rules to say that parody must be clearly labeled as such in account handles.

Further showcasing a lack of principles, Musk ran a Twitter poll yesterday asking when he should allow the suspended tech journalists to return to Twitter—then balked at following through when people voted that they should be reinstated immediately. ("Sorry, too many options. Will redo poll," Musk tweeted.) When Musk polled people about whether to let former President Donald Trump back on and the answer was yes, Musk respected the results and reinstated Trump's account (tweeting "Vox Populi, Vox Dei," a.k.a. "the voice of the people is the voice of God").

It seems Musk's "power to the people" mantra only applies when the people agree with what Musk himself wants.


FREE MINDS

This is the song that never ends…

???? @SenMikeLee has introduced a bill that would remove porn's First Amendment protections, and effectively prohibit distribution of adult material in the US. FSC is monitoring the bill, and will continue to do so in the new Congress. https://t.co/ofx2kCsacA

— Free Speech Coalition (@FSCArmy) December 15, 2022


FREE MARKETS

IRS releases private data about taxpayers … again. "Confidential data of about 112,000 taxpayers inadvertently published by the IRS over the summer was mistakenly republished in late November and remained online until early December," reports Bloomberg:

Form 990-T data that was supposed to stay private had been taken offline but made its way back to the IRS site when a contractor uploaded an old file that still included most of the private information, a letter sent Thursday to congressional leaders said. The agency is required to make Form 990-Ts filed by nonprofit groups available online but is supposed to keep the form filed by individuals private; in both cases, the agency made that information available too.

An internal programming error caused the September release of private forms along with the ones filed by nonprofit groups, the letter said. This time, the contractor tasked with managing the database reuploaded the older file with the original data instead of a new file that filtered out the forms that needed to be kept private.

As of December 1, the information that was supposed to be taken down was back online and the IRS only learned about it after being alerted by a third-party researcher. The forms did not contain Social Security numbers, but some contained names and contact information.


QUICK HITS

• "The U.S. Senate approved a one-week extension of federal government funding, averting a partial government shutdown that was scheduled to begin Saturday," reports CNBC. "The measure, which passed 71 to 19, gives lawmakers an additional week to negotiate and pass a comprehensive bill to fund federal agencies through the fiscal year, which ends Sept. 30."

• Tomorrow is International Day To End Violence Against Sex Workers. More on the day's history, events, and mission here.

• Internal memos from the Food and Drug Administration show the agency's regulation of electronic cigarettes is based more on dubious value judgments rather than science, suggests Reason Senior Editor Jacob Sullum. "The memos came to light thanks to a lawsuit that Logic Technology filed against the FDA after the agency approved the marketing of the company's tobacco-flavored e-cigarettes but rejected applications for menthol-flavored versions. The documents show that higher-ups in the FDA overrode staff scientists who initially recommended approval of the latter applications."

• Hmm…

OK, here's a First Amendment lawsuit for you:

A woman is suing the city of Tallahassee after she was removed from the Citizen Police Review Board for having a cup with an "abolish the police" sticker on it https://t.co/s1xmtMw53D pic.twitter.com/KqYt8O1xf2

— CJ Ciaramella (@cjciaramella) December 15, 2022

• Sen. Elizabeth Warren's (D–Mass.) crypto bill targets financial freedom, not fraud, writes J.D. Tuccille for Reason.

• Politics is getting in the way of what makes cities great.

• PSA:

This is your periodic reminder to never take a police polygraph.

Let's talk about why. /1

— Doug Gladden (@DougtheLawyer) December 14, 2022

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Twitter CEO Elon Musk has suspended the accounts of multiple tech journalists.

    Journalist is a generous term for a couple of those.

    1. Minadin   2 years ago

      1. He stated a rule that people who posted links to real-time tracking info would be suspended, after his kid got chased down and harassed by some psycho.

      2. A bunch of left wing idiots decided to fuck around and find out.

      3. But, 'muh private companies'.

      1. Nardz   2 years ago

        C'mon, you know Reason are good little toadies.
        They've been told to whine about Musk's lack of principles, so that's what they'll do.
        Because Reason's only principle is serving the totalitarian left.

        1. damikesc   2 years ago

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          1. Nardz   2 years ago

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            She's a leftist.

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              1. Rob Misek   2 years ago

                Why don’t the reason staff all post their home addresses and telephone numbers?

                Not that anyone would care.

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          3. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

            Cite an example of her espousing socialism?

            1. VULGAR MADMAN   2 years ago

              Arf arf!

            2. Truthfulness   2 years ago

              She wants special treatment for certain individuals at the cost of everyone else. A classic goal of identity politics, which is compatible with socialism and is ultimately socialist in goal.

        2. Doug Heffernan   2 years ago

          The undying love for Musk in this comment thread rivals only the undying love for Trump in many other Reason comment threads.

          Be honest, if both Musk and Trump showed up at your front door wanting to ask you to prom, which offer would you accept? Remember, your other love is right there watching.

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Cite of undying love?

            1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   2 years ago

              Way off topic but have you seen Kingsbury's girlfriend?

              Holy Moly

          2. damikesc   2 years ago

            What "undying love"?

            Recognizing that it is his company, he has a right to make the rules he wants, and those asshats decided to test those rules and got punished for it?

            AS has been pointed out, the info was not even public in the first place.

            Honestly, that it upsets ENB and you makes it so blissfully enjoyable.

            1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

              Troll feeding is prohibited. 🙂

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                Why? We reply to sarc, SPB2, White Knight Mike, and Jeffy all the time, LOL!

                1. Truthfulness   2 years ago

                  "The only way for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

            2. Zeb   2 years ago

              And not only that, but the asshats clearly are trying only to tarnish his reputation and damage Twitter. Why should he put up with people who only mean him ill? They are trying to play "gotcha" and he called them on it.

          3. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            Undying love, my ass. Follow the rules and apply the rules; that's all we've ever asked for. No special treatment for anyone. These dipshits fucked around and now the found out. Screw them.

          4. Overt   2 years ago

            The undying criticism of Musk from people who once thought he was the great savior for his work on electric cars rivals only the about face they make on pretty much every person who is useful one second, and a pariah when they step out of line.

          5. Zeb   2 years ago

            You're an idiot if you think many people here are devoted to Musk or Trump in the way you describe. Both are rather flawed people, but the ridiculousness of the attacks on both were such that honest people have to call it out. Personally, I like Musk a lot better than Trump, but if it weren't for the constant stream of ridiculous complaints and accusations, I would spend a lot more time criticizing some of his decisions. Though overall I think he's doing alright. And even if he does tank Twitter, it's fun to watch and the world would probably be better off without it anyway.

          6. R Mac   2 years ago

            I don’t need to love anyone to laugh at ENB being a hypocritical hack.

            1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   2 years ago (edited)

              And she isn’t really hot :-/

        3. Bill Falcon   2 years ago

          They are pissed Musk is getting rid of kiddie porn and pedos on the site. The constant defense of trannies screaming for mutilating kids is Nick's latest "what it means to be a libertarian"

        4. Freelancelot   2 years ago

          Indeed. I thought that "Reason" was a libertarian (i.e. authentically liberal) publication. And while it was founded by a so-called "left-wing libertarian", libertarian was the operative word.

          Now, it's just another left-wing fascist publication that disagrees with Democrats about taxes and gun control. (Sometimes.)

      2. Ronbback   2 years ago

        and the idea that they don't know for how long, they were told 7 days. it silly the way teh media and ENB are talking about this. all the news this morning is about a few people being suspended for a few days yet never national anouncements when conservatives were banned

        1. Minadin   2 years ago

          It's also stupid to pretend that:

          "It's also unclear precisely what got each of the suspended journalists the boot"

          It's not a mystery. It's been verified. She even quoted one of them. Here's another:
          https://twitter.com/TRHLofficial/status/1603570953002401793

        2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

          It was certainly covered when Trump was banned and when the New York Post was banned.

          Are you saying the press should have widely covered it when obscure conservative figures most people have never heard of were banned?

          1. damikesc   2 years ago

            As opposed to the randos banned here? The press certainly was upset when elonjet got banned, as it should have been.

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            2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

              “Mashable, CNN, The New York Times, and The Washington Post”

              Those are “randos”?

              1. damikesc   2 years ago

                Those sites were not banned.

                Randos who work for those sites were.

                Rules are for all.

                1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

                  I thought the relationship conferring well-known-ness between a well-known publication and working at a well-known publication was obvious. I also didn’t listen to the little voice in my head that said you would use that I didn’t explicitly spell out that relationship as an opportunity to dwell on trivia and avoid actually answering my question.

                  I’ll be really explicit: How can they be categorized as “randos” if they work for very well-known publications?

                  1. R Mac   2 years ago

                    Beautiful to watch Dee, keep it up.

                  2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                    Ahh. Left leaning journalists have a preferred status in your mind.

              2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                CNN, the NYT, and the WaPo are mere propaganda mouthpieces for the Democrat Party. They've spread more misinformation over the past decade than pretty much anyone else.

              3. VULGAR MADMAN   2 years ago

                They’re fake news.

          2. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Oh. No conservative journalists were banned?

      3. Cyto   2 years ago

        Also... not public information. Apparently the FAA has a service for people in his situation to prevent tracking of private planes and the people on them. They issue private numbers. It requires marrying private and public information.

        So the "public information" story is not entirely true.

        The hypocrisy of these folks is stunning. Remember all the sympathetic handwriting over the doxing journalist when someone posted a video of her knocking on the door of a family member of someone she was trying to harass? Remember how terrible that was?

        Now, posting real time movements of the family members of public figures is just fine.... even if you are doing so alongside a coordinated effort to demonize that person.

        If someone were to take advantage of this stuff to take a shot at these folks, a prosecutor so motivated would have a pretty easy case of conspiracy to commit murder. They gleefully post that he is a nazi and he deserves what he gets then post links to the time and place that hiss flight lands. That is way, way, way more than they were able to dig up on Trump for Jan 6.

    2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      BuIlD yOuR oWn TwITtEr

    3. Kungpowderfinger   2 years ago

      Say what you will about Jack Dorsey, Twitter's founder and former head…

      Ok I will. He colluded with the DOJ to censor news to help Democrats win elections.

      1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        Didn’t the Twitter Files show that he wasn’t in the loop?

        1. Truthfulness   2 years ago (edited)

          Dorsey allowed Twitter to be the way they were with their censorship before Musk arrived. That’s important.

          1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

            Perhaps so, but it is not accurate to say “He colluded…”

            1. Truthfulness   2 years ago

              I answered your first question. Is that the best defense you can come up with?

              Regardless of what has happened, Twitter colluded with the government to censor speech, and Dorsey allowed Twitter to get to that position in the first place. In that aspect, yes, he was part of the collusion, even if indirectly.

      2. JasonAZ   2 years ago

        ENB doesn't find this objectionable. In fact, she didn't even mention it in the article above when talking about Twitter's previous banning and censorship. But don't claim she's a progressive that carries water for the DNC. No sir. 100% Libertarian.

    4. Truthteller1   2 years ago

      This is difficult for progressive shills like ENB. GFY

  2. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Musk also suspended the account of the decentralized social network Mastodon.

    Turns out private companies don't cater to competition.

    1. damikesc   2 years ago

      ...especially when said competition is ALSO violating the TOS.

    2. JFree   2 years ago

      They never did either. It's one of those oddities. Laissez-faire capitalism will never lead to free markets except via Hopium. It will spend all its time trying to undermine them.

      Course not sure that ordoliberalism will lead to free market outcomes either.

      1. Overt   2 years ago (edited)

        I am sure that JFear can tell us exactly how Twitter is undermining the free market with these decisions in 5, 4, 3, 2….

        1. JFree   2 years ago

          There is no free market without competition.

          But of course you know that and don't really support free markets either.

          1. Overt   2 years ago

            I am sure that JFear can tell us exactly how Twitter's actions made this a market "without competition" in 5, 4, 3, 2...

          2. mtrueman   2 years ago

            There was a line in the movie about Mark Whitacre and the ADM price fixing scandal:

            We have an old saying at ADM.
            I think it applies here.
            "It's better to have the elephants
            inside the tent pissing out
            than outside the tent pissing in."

            Outside piss?

            It's better to be part of the group.

            What he's saying is,
            the customers are our enemy.
            The competitors are our friend.

            1. Overt   2 years ago

              Not germane to this conversation. Twitter isn't friending their competitors. They are declining to work with them.

              1. mtrueman   2 years ago

                "Not germane to this conversation. "

                You don't have to be german to appreciate a good quip. In fact it helps if you're not.

                Twitter sells 'users' to advertisers. Mastodon is FOSS (free open source software). They're not competitors.

                1. Overt   2 years ago (edited)

                  Having brought up irrelevancies, you now resort to pedantry. Cute.

                  But the last thing we should expect from a marxist is a basic understanding of marketing. One day you might get a clue and learn the difference between "products/services" and "business models". Might.

                  1. mtrueman   2 years ago

                    "Having brought up irrelevancies,"

                    It's not irrelevant. FOSS means that anyone can download Mastodon source code, change it, use it, and distribute it (with credit where it's due) to anyone or no one without paying anyone or getting permission from an owner, politician or any other bureaucrat that typically would restrain us. Try doing that with Twitter.

                    "One day you might get a clue and learn the difference between “products/services” and “business models”."

                    I'm not sure what you're driving at here. Could you restate your point without the condescension? Or keep the condescension, but just be clearer.

  3. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Say what you will about Jack Dorsey, Twitter's founder and former head, but he stayed relatively removed from day-to-day suspension and banning decisions...

    Sounds as though that was part of the problem.

    1. Inquisitive Squirrel   2 years ago

      And based on the August WaPo report on Twitter and how atrociously it was running, maybe the hands-off approach wasn't the best idea.

    2. Unable2Reason   2 years ago

      According to Dorsey's blog, "Twitter founder Jack Dorsey revealed Tuesday that he gave up fighting against censorship in early 2020 after an "activist" investor -- almost certainly billionaire vulture capitalist Paul Singer -- started gobbling up Twitter shares in a bid to oust him as CEO."

      So this isn't a point of brag as they suggest, but rather an indication that we were probably shielded from Dorsey's brand of censorship instead of the brand of censorship that actually got rolled out. Dorsey characterizes his brand as "fighting against censorship" but I guess we'll never know. Pretty sure the shadow ban was invented before 2020.

      1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        That is really interesting.

      2. Overt   2 years ago

        Yes- Dorsey and Musk are actually quite closely aligned from a policy standpoint. The problem is that Dorsey had a blind spot to the lefty authoritarianism, and before he knew what was happening, the company was out of his control. ENB will likewise be surprised when the lefties she sympathizes with betray her.

    3. Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland   2 years ago

      Disaffected, bigoted, on-the-spectrum, antisocial assholes like Elon Musk are among my favorite culture war casualties.

      These autistic right-wing assholes can't be replaced -- by their betters -- fast enough.

      Carry on, clingers. So far and so long as better Americans permit, though, and that's it.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        Haha, Artie's allies are getting their shit pushed in, and the slack-jawed, slope-foreheaded hicklib in here coping, seething, and dilating as usual with his copypasta.

  4. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Pundit Keith Olbermann called on people to retweet Harwell; Olbermann was then suspended, too.

    They should be happy. Musk is giving them the villain they've been craving for two years. (DeathSantis wasn't cutting it.)

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      Olberdouche is merely an asshole victim. He can just fuck off.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Somebody has to fill in for Trump.

    3. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   2 years ago

      Look how quickly that worm turned. The thing with EM is he can't really be undermined like Trump was vulnerable to from governors, reps, etc. He can fire and hire. I did a study group (Non-Sexual) last week with a current Twitter employee who enjoyed mouthing off about him negatively. The entire progressive half of the group were treating her like she was some sort of French Resistance member trying to overthrow the Vichy Gov. "Don't get me started with the beds, " and other such whinging.

  5. Nardz   2 years ago

    Love the leftists seething.

    Fuck off and die, cunts.

    1. DeAnnP   2 years ago

      Seething? More like laughing...At the people who bought Musk's claim of absolute free speech. Most people don't care what he does with his company. What does matter though is how the advertisers feel about it. Time will tell.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

        Where is his claim as an absolutist. He has always stated illegal activity as a way to moderate. In this instance he is applying stalking and 4isk of threat, both illegal.

        He went after child porn day 1.

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          But these are journalists, the high priests of information.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago (edited)

            Praise be unto Biden and all the saints.

          2. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

            Stenographers of the Empire.

        2. DeAnnP   2 years ago

          https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1499976967105433600

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

            He may personally be one but he has always stated he would remove bots, child porn, illegal activities, etc.

            Or are you unaware of this? He may operate differently as a business than as an individual. This is common.

            Let me give you an example. Is your claim an absolutist would allow for private banking information to be posted?

      2. JasonAZ   2 years ago

        Reading ENB's daily "reports" here, you can tell there is no laughing. Seething is a more appropriate adjective.

        And, as Jesse noted, Musk never claimed to be a free speech absolutist. What's really making you and other progressives upset is that YOU and your allies are now on the receiving end of getting banned. The difference, these folks violated TOS and the government isn't involved.

        1. Cyto   2 years ago

          Yeah, and it ain't close.

          In yet another "the mask came off" moment, they have given up pretending and are openly championing journalists and social media doing everything they can to ensure that the right people get elected... including pushing false stories, slander and suppressing true stories. Most people here knew that years ago, but they have given up pretending that they even agree that this is a bad thing.

        2. windycityattorney   2 years ago

          "Musk never claimed to be a free speech absolutist."

          https://google.gprivate.com/search.php?search?q=has+elon+musk+ever+called+himself+a+free+speech+absolutist

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            And the reply is already above shrike.

      3. Sevo   2 years ago

        "...Most people don’t care what he does with his company..."

        And yet...

        1. DeAnnP   2 years ago

          Discussing something does not equate to being upset over it. JFC.

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            What about you creating a strawman to attack the outcome?

          2. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

            The way to show your lack of concern over something is to ignore that which doesn't concern you.

            Pretty much by definition, if you take the time to discuss something, it is a matter of concern.

          3. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

            You’ll run into this a lot with some of the commenters here: they view discussing something or not discussing something, or simply quoting someone, as rock-solid proof of the person’s partisan allegiance.

            1. R Mac   2 years ago

              “partisan allegiance.”

              More projection from a lefty.

            2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

              When the issue is of monumental importance to libertarians and Reason deliberately ignores it or makes small, incidental references, because talking about it offends their friends left coast sensibilities, it's partisan.

      4. R Mac   2 years ago

        “Most people don’t care what he does with his company.”

        And yet here we are talking about it, in response to a bunch of journalists talking about, including ENB, who wrote the propaganda we’re all responding to.

        So are you stupid or a dishonest hypocrite?

        1. DesigNate   2 years ago

          Why not both?

  6. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Further showcasing a lack of principles, Musk ran a Twitter poll yesterday asking when he should allow the suspended tech journalists to return to Twitter—then balked at following through when people voted that they should be reinstated immediately.

    Twitter's god is not the benevolent god we were promised. Musk has taken the shadow out of shadowban.

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Great point.

      These types of articles were never posted for shadow bans or vague enforcement of vague policies.

      When the knitting site made an explicit rule of no Trump prints, people here were fine with it. It was a stupid but explicit rule. Meanwhile reason defended vague rules relying on judgment and enforcement was explicitly biased.

      We now have a stronger complain against a very explicit rule with a very explicit example violated and NOW reason complains.

      It is unreal.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        I will also note ENBs only care here is journalists. Her friends and peers. She really does think her class of people is special.

      2. Overt   2 years ago

        For the record though, I think Musk runs the risk of handling this very subjectively. I largely support Musk's aims, and can also acknowledge that he is a Type A, flawed guy who sometimes fires from the hip. He also lets his ego get the better of him, and departs from rationality when he takes things personally.

        And he is also the type of guy who tends to change directions quickly when it seems something is off track. As a result, I think his blanket ban on "doxxing" is not as simple as he makes it. And it will be modified over the next couple of weeks.

        But, while Lefties will see this as vindication, it actually proves that Musk is interested in open and transparent policy, and adapting as new information comes to like. He isn't perfect, but he is doing much more than the unethical partisans who were hiding in the shadows behind a veneer of impartiality.

      3. Zeb   2 years ago

        One reason for all of the commentary on Musk's actions that we never got before is that the story is Musk taking over Twitter. So it's going to get more press than regualr old Twitter doing its shady shit.
        Many of the takes are stupid bullshit. But what else would you expect from establishment journalism in 2022?

        1. windycityattorney   2 years ago

          The problem will be that once Musk starts making exceptions to his free speech absolutist stance... there will be more and more exceptions. And exceptions to the exceptions. "No real time location information" okay... does that only apply to him? Celebrity's? The same twitter user for @elonjet also had one for Jeff Bezos and other billionaires.

          If the rule is 'no real time location information' and I post on twitter that i am meeting another twitter user for drinks at 9pm at a specific bar... am I violating the rule? What if I post about going to an event - say a concert- and tag both my friends who I am going with and the celebrity band twitter handle? Bannable? Am I not important enough? Where does the line get drawn?

          Once you start down the slope; it becomes slippery and will be selectively enforced out of necessity.

          Musk should have just paid the dude 50k to buy the twitter handle. Thats like a couple pennies to most of us.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

            No, what's going on is your allies are being held accountable, and you're assmad about it.

        2. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

          Bullshit. The reason we didn't see stories was the proggy pedo brigade running Twitter before aligned with ENB and the test of the Reason crew so it was downplayed. Now that there is free dialogue and rules are being enforced she and her proggy guild are unhappy.

    2. Squirrelshateme   2 years ago

      From where I’m standing 52.5% said 7 days or longer and 47.5% said today or tomorrow

  7. Bill Dalasio   2 years ago

    Twitter expands definition of doxxing to include links to publicly available information.

    Doxxing has always included publicly available information. A person's address is usually publicly available. It takes some hunting, because it isn't promoted. But, it is publicly available. Doxxing is publicizing that publicly available information.

    1. Life of Brian   2 years ago

      Doxxing has always included publicly available information.

      Came here to say this. It seems like people are just so wound up in what they feel is the ultimate "gotcha" moment, they're not capable of stepping back and thinking about what they're really saying.

    2. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

      It turns out Musk is part of the privacy program to not have his flight info public. The account was getting around that measure.

      https://mobile.twitter.com/AGHamilton29/status/1603747484747956224

      And Musk states this.

      Elon Musk @elonmusk · Follow Replying to @jasondebolt My plane is actually not trackable without using non-public data

      Does ENB do any research before her hot takes of leftist narratives?

      Tim Pool posted the program.

      https://t.co/KV5rYldsTY

      1. Cyto   2 years ago

        This is something that should have pur editor taking a long look in the mirror.

        I try to ensure that everything I post here is based on actual facts that I can document. But if I screw up, I am just some random dude. Reason magazine is supposed to be an old-school legitimate journalism publication. The kind of place that has sources for things they print. The kind of place that fact-checks their articles before publishing.

        Just ripping and running with the made-up story told by your friends on Twitter.... er, mastadon... is not something an editor of a magazine like Reason should ever do.

        1. Overt   2 years ago

          "The kind of place that has sources for things they print. The kind of place that fact-checks their articles before publishing."

          Since these are more like blog posts, I can understand them getting things wrong. But ENB doesn't read the comments, and has no interest in reading any criticism anywhere. And so she has never (to my knowledge) issued a correction for one of these mourning lynx.

          1. DesigNate   2 years ago

            Based on her Twitter, i assume she hate reads the comments.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              Looks that way.

              https://twitter.com/ENBrown/status/1601256561086988289

              Reason commenters make up a very small percentage of our readership, and are largely people who hate everyone on staff and all of our work, on any subject. They’re in now way representative of “libertarian audiences” overall

              ENB, I'll keep posting it so everyone here knows what you think of them.

    3. Bruce Hayden   2 years ago

      The left, the Dems, etc, have long used doxing as a weapon against those on the right they want to attack. You piss them off, they dox you, and often one of their rent-a-mobs shows up at your house. Mostly, it will be just a lot of chanting and noise. Unless they get AntiFA/BLM involved, and they will go violent if given the green light. And, of course, much of this has been done on Twitter in the past.

      What I see happening is that the effective definition of Dangerous has changed at Twitter. Misgendering, laughing at the gender fluid, supposed misinformation about COVID-19, election integrity/fraud, Hunter Biden’s laptop, etc are no longer considered Dangerous. What is considered Dangerous now at Twitter is Doxing, AntiFA organizing and coordinating protests to burn themselves down some Tesla dealerships, etc.

      I expect that the leftists involved in these attacks on Musk thought that they were being cute using Twitter as a mechanism to organize attacks on him. Either that, or they just were used to attacking their enemies using it, and didn’t think it through that he controlled their medium of communications, and from its censorship days, Twitter had the ability to rapidly identify and shut down transgressors.

      They should know by now not to attack Musk. He is far richer and smarter than they are. But these techniques of intimidating their enemies have worked in the past, with protection from consequences from the top of the Dem party.

      1. Nardz   2 years ago

        We aren't dealing with people who we "simply disagree with"- we're dealing with totalitarian cancer every bit as evil as the soviets/nazis/ccp, but who have much greater power than any previous regimes ever had.
        There are no rules, only weapons.

        1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

          And Putin.

          1. Truthfulness   2 years ago

            And yet the Twitter ran by such leftist groups allowed Putin to keep his account. Hypocrites.

            1. Utkonos   2 years ago

              Khamenei is on Twitter as well.

      2. Overt   2 years ago

        "I expect that the leftists involved in these attacks on Musk thought that they were being cute using Twitter as a mechanism to organize attacks on him"

        Yes. These are among the same people who (as a part of AntiFa) use the freedoms of assembly and speech to visit violence on people. They aren't here to make the world a better place. In a better world, people would use speech and protest to affect change. But by turning protests into violent riots, they ensure people WON'T see speech and assembly as a valid activity.

        That is exactly what these proggies are doing. Like the asshole in a board game who ostensibly follows the rules, but griefs others so that the game is miserable, these people are trying to use free expression to force Musk to react and lock down free expression.

    4. Bruce Hayden   2 years ago

      Doxing is publishing locational information in order to organize or institute an attack on their target. Even if protesters don’t congregate at your house, or climb onto the car carrying your youngest boy, there is still the threat that it might happen. It is either the threat of violence, or part of organizing actual violence, against the doxing target, that is the issue, and not that it often consists of publicly available information.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        The Kavanaugh assassin utilized posted information to find him.

      2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        This is exactly what Taylor Lorenz did to Libs of TikTok.

        https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1603616132396720128?cxt=HHwWgIC9-YiYmMEsAAAA

        Taylor Lorenz is complaining on Twitter spaces about being doxxed and harassed. The irony!

        Also her contact at Twitter was fired ????. No more special treatment!

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Neville the Cat (@FearTheFloof) did not dox Ms. Lorenz by giving out an address. He merely exposed her history that she tries so hard to hide. For that, under Old Twitter, he got the ban stick. Yet Ms. Lorenz could dox anyone she wanted to her heart's content.

          https://enblocpress.com/fear-the-floof-tweet-thread/

          For posterity, this thread is presented here in its original form, and it has not been edited. To my understanding, there are a number of factual errors regarding Ben Collins and Matt Yglesias. I do not know how material these errors are, but my understanding is this thread is about 90% correct.

    5. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

      Why is it that the movements of private aircraft are public information? Is there some valid reason for that? Sounds like a bad idea to me.

      1. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

        Aircraft of certain sizes and types are required to register flight plans with the FAA.

        1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

          Why does the FAA have to share that information with the world in real time?

  8. JesseAz   2 years ago

    JesseAz 40 mins ago
    Calling it now. Reason attacks Elon for suspending liberal journalists for violating a clear rule Elon posted this week. Taking a different stance than their defense if suspending conservatives for violations of unclear and vague rules.
    .
    Also at least 3 claims if hypocrisy against Elon. Wheras they ignored the claims of Twitter being for free speech prior.

    Yeap.

    1. Bill Dalasio   2 years ago

      I was just about to note that your call was right.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        This us why Sandra was so successful as OBL. It is easy to guess the narrative they will adopt here.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      Damn, you called it. Of course, for those not in the last thread, there's more to it.

      https://twitter.com/JanJekielek/status/1603624389399937026?cxt=HHwWhICwtdj4m8EsAAAA

      Buzzfeed's Katie Notopoulos was hosting a Twitter space with some of the journalists who had earlier tonight been suspended for 7 days speaking on stage. @elonmusk came into the room, was invited up as a speaker, and responded to a few questions. Here's the recording

      Have a listen.

      1. R Mac   2 years ago

        Haha, they sound like a bunch of bratty kids arguing with the teacher to get five extra minutes of recess.

  9. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Yet another study showing deaths from myocarditis linked to vaccine recency.

    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/mildly-dead-german-autopsy-study-undercuts-feds-post-vax-myocarditis

    1. KarenMuller   2 years ago (edited)

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    2. Bruce Hayden   2 years ago (edited)

      “The paper shows the five patients suffered an “autoimmune attack on their own heart cells” that caused such fast heartbeats that “once the tachycardia unexpectedly started, they died in minutes … the heart is effectively pumping no blood,” former vaccine microbiologist Joe Wang wrote in an Epoch Times essay with journalist Jennifer Margulis.”

      Why the autoimmune attack on heart cells? Their immune system is attacking cells with COVID-19 spike proteins. Why would they do that? The first jab taught that their immune systems that these spike proteins indicated the presence of pathogens. And each subsequent jab just reinforces this. Why are the spike proteins in the heart and circulatory system? Likely because the artificial spike generating mRNA, after an injection, migrates from the injection site, through the lymphatic system, and then into the circulatory system (which prominently includes the heart), cycling through the body until it can enter a cell, where it proceeds to pump out those toxic spike proteins. When the immune system discovers the toxic spike proteins, it attacks and kills the cells exhibiting them. If enough of them are in heart muscles, you can get myocarditis.

      Notice something. Safety was predicated on the mRNA breaking down at the injection site, shortly after the injection. That way, you get a limited supply of spike proteins that can teach the immune system to attack whenever they detect them, but not cause any other problems. What went wrong? They didn’t use real mRNA, which quickly breaks down on its own, and the immune system attacks, but artificial mRNA where Uridines are replaced by Pseudouridines. This makes the artificial mRNA much, much more stable and long lived – plus it mostly disappears from view by the immune system. Natural mRNA would be extremely hard to manufacture, ship, store, and administer. So they went with Pseudouridine enhanced artificial mRNA. Except that the same benefits from its stability turn into liabilities once in the body. It has often been detected in the body two months after injection, and even been detected after four months. Circulating through the body, evading destruction by the immune system, pumping out toxic spike proteins seen as indicating the presence of pathogens the whole time. Note – this should have been picked up with a CDC required “shed” test, but they were never apparently performed, presumably bypassed by the EUA authorizations.

      1. Overt   2 years ago

        My doctor was telling me that the likely cause was that they drafted hundreds of thousands of people to inject vaccines at super-vax-sites. These people were injecting the vaccine (accidentally) into veins instead of the muscle tissue.

  10. JesseAz   2 years ago

    CDC removes links to defensive gun use after gun control activists complain.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/StephenGutowski/status/1603390503239778305

    1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

      Saw this last.

      This quote says it all:

      "...a group of gun-control advocates disputed the higher end of the estimate and said the CDC referencing it made passing new gun restrictions difficult."

      The truth in DGU's makes infringements more difficult. And the Biden admin romotes propaganda. Again.

      1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

        Edit not working,

        Saw this last night.

        This quote says it all:

        “…a group of gun-control advocates disputed the higher end of the estimate and said the CDC referencing it made passing new gun restrictions difficult.”

        The truth in DGU’s makes infringements more difficult. And the Biden admin promotes this propaganda. Again

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Again. Living through Lysenkoism.

        2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          Hey, why even have official government science if it can't be manipulated to support the current party agenda?

  11. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    @SenMikeLee has introduced a bill that would remove porn's First Amendment protections...

    Using a War on Pr0n to supplement the War on Drugs and War on Stagnant Pharma Profits in reducing liberties is a step backward for them.

  12. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1603760217568645122?t=BcgllmCAEuFxj0P3h4mDSw&s=19

    Physiognomy Check still undefeated

    [Link]

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      You can practically hear Donie O'Sullivan wheezing to catch his breath just to have that photo taken.

      Do some yoga or deadlifts, Donie, you fat potato-muncher.

  13. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    IRS releases private data about taxpayers … again.

    Hey, paying taxes is totally voluntary. You chose to give the IRS your info.

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Prep to accidentally release trumps taxes.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Which version?

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          The ones leftist create a narrative about since most people are too dumb to understand complex tax forms.

  14. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/ThomasSowell/status/1603738580312285186?t=k44-106XxRCmvkQGDHfL_g&s=19

    Few skills are so well rewarded as the ability to convince parasites that they are victims.

    1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      Yeah, but Thomas Sowell is against Putin, so, according to you, he is just a bug-eating Steppin Fetchit for Kolonel Klink Klaus and the W.E.F., right? 🙂

  15. creech   2 years ago

    Any day now, Congress will be demanding Musk's tax returns before it is too late. Some folks should watch out what they wish for or the Pelosi family, Biden family, Obama family, Clinton family and etc. returns will be required by the new House committees.

    1. Nardz   2 years ago

      I don't think you understand how totalitarianism works

    2. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

      They are checking for 'lies' on his naturalization docs.

      1. Bruce Hayden   2 years ago

        What they haven’t though through is that Musk is probably the least deportable naturalized citizen in the country. Because he puts their spy satellites into orbit, their astronauts to the ISS, gives the NSA a back door into Twitter (and probably his StarLink system), etc. They strip him of his citizenship, he buys a small country, moves the headquarters for his companies there, and tells the USG to pound sand. There are claims that he has many $billions$ in USG business, much of it black. He is the one with the cheapest rockets, by far, the best commercial batteries, thousands of communications satellites already in low earth orbit, and those back doors used by the NSA. They can’t afford for him not to be an American citizen.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          Yeah, Musk is a made man by the government's standards, but the dude better hope he doesn't come by any information that will lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton.

  16. damikesc   2 years ago

    "Twitter expands definition of doxxing to include links to publicly available information."

    ...that has always been the definition of doxxing.

    1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago (edited)

      It wasn’t the definition Twitter was using.

      Maybe, like a lot of words in English, different people have different ideas of what the definition is.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        At the time of the bans it was. It was even publicized.

  17. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    The U.S. Senate approved a one-week extension of federal government funding, averting a partial government shutdown that was scheduled to begin Saturday...

    Talk about the neverending song.

    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

      The budget is the Nothing.

      1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

        Congress is Gmork

  18. damikesc   2 years ago

    "Meanwhile, Mastodon was banned simply for linking to an account on its platform that tracked Musk's jet."

    WHOA! Links to things that violate TOS lead to punishment? GTFO!

    1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

      Meanwhile, the Coke machine at my local Wendy's still doesn't pour Pepsi.

  19. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    @SenMikeLee has introduced a bill that would remove porn's First Amendment protections, and effectively prohibit distribution of adult material in the US. FSC is monitoring the bill, and will continue to do so in the new Congress.

    Fuck off Lee, you statist asshole.

    Flashback: this is when the poster John (aka Red Tony) would claim that it is really Democrats that want to ban porn.

    Oh, and he said the Iraq War was worse than lobbing a Tomahawk into Libya.

    Whatever happened to Red Tony?

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      Why should you worry. Child porn is already illegal.

      1. VULGAR MADMAN   2 years ago

        Elon has been banning child porn accounts though.
        Buttplug must be backed up.

  20. damikesc   2 years ago

    "Washington Post journalist Drew Harwell then shared a screenshot of Mastodon's tweet; he was suspended. Pundit Keith Olbermann called on people to retweet Harwell; Olbermann was then suspended, too. It's unclear for how long any of these accounts will be suspended."

    Even MORE links to violations of TOS lead to punishment? No fucking way!

    1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      How are they in violation for sharing a screenshot with _expired_ information about the location of Elon Musk’s private jet?

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Those posts are allowed you retarded fuck. They posted links to the live information which was clearly labeled as a suspension.

        Can you not lie for 5 minutes?

      2. damikesc   2 years ago

        They did not do that.

        1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

          I apologize. You are correct. I got it wrong.

          1. VULGAR MADMAN   2 years ago

            It’s a Christmas miracle!

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

              Between this and Musk giving us so many things to laugh about recently, Christmas has come early this year.

          2. JesseAz   2 years ago

            You should cut and paste this anytime you think about posting.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              Whether here or on Twitter, @MikeLaursen2.

  21. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/here-comes-job-shock-philadelphia-fed-admits-us-jobs-overstated-least-11-million

    Regular readers are well aware that back in July, Zero Hedge first (long before it became a running theme among so-called "macro experts") pointed out that a gaping 1+ million job differential had opened up between the closely-watched and market-impacting, if easily gamed and manipulated, Establishment Survey and the far more accurate if volatile, Household Survey - the two core components of the monthly non-farm payrolls report.

  22. damikesc   2 years ago

    "The suspended tech reporters don't seem to have actually doxxed Musk by any normal understanding of the word. But earlier this week, Twitter's doxxing policy was updated to make the @ElonJet account and people sharing links to Musk's (public!) flight information elsewhere a direct violation. As recently as Tuesday, it said that you couldn't share "home address or physical location information, including street addresses, GPS coordinates or other identifying information related to locations that are considered private." Now, it includes "live location information, including information shared on Twitter directly or links to 3rd-party URL(s) of travel routes, actual physical location, or other identifying information that would reveal a person's location, regardless if this information is publicly available." In other words: Twitter changed its doxxing policy precisely to target activity that seemed to bother Musk."

    So, they allowed punishment for doxxing with public information in the past and then they continued punishing for the same thing now? BASTARDS!

    I am impressed with how quickly "BUT MUH PRIVATE PLATFORMZ!" has melted away.

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      It wasn't even public info based on information coming out today. The creator of the tracker admitted it too.

      1. damikesc   2 years ago

        I bet ENB will post a correction eventually. Journalisming hard and all.

  23. Jerryskids   2 years ago

    "The measure, which passed 71 to 19, gives lawmakers an additional week to negotiate and pass a comprehensive bill to fund federal agencies through the fiscal year, which ends Sept. 30."

    No mention of Rand Paul blasting Establishment RINOs for reverting to form on this sort of shit? Why would Republicans agree to compromise on setting the spending agenda with the Democrats for the next year (half their guaranteed majority time) when they only have to wait a couple of weeks to be the majority party? Well, obviously they're wanting political cover for their own plans for debt-hemorrhaging levels of spending. As Paul pointed out - they only ever pay lip service to fiscal restraint, none of them mean it seriously.

  24. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Wonder if Robby will mention this here at Reason.

    https://www.spiked-online.com/podcast-episode/why-the-twitter-files-matter/

    Robby Soave – senior editor at Reason and host of Rising on Hill TV – is the latest guest on The Brendan O’Neill Show. Robby and Brendan discuss the rise of ‘shadow-banning’ and how Big Tech distorts democracy.

  25. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

    What a lack of journalistic standards to not mention Elon alleged his son was attacked and that lead to this decision.

    1. JasonAZ   2 years ago

      Come on. Only the right is involved in political violence. This is known, so the story about Elon's son must be fake news. - ENB

    2. JesseAz   2 years ago

      He didnt allege. He posted the video.

      1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

        I saw one of the suspect sitting in the car. Is there one of the attack?

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          It shows him stopping the car and such. Has the guys license plate and video of him.

    3. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      Agreed. She should have included this important information.

      1. Truthfulness   2 years ago

        Yet that goes against ENB's narrative. She is no libertarian.

        1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

          Wait! What?! The penalty for not mentioning a relevant detail in a story that doesn't even center on libertarianism is that she is "no libertarian"? That's pretty harsh.

  26. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/Partisan_O/status/1603763230085730305?t=AhK3wlS55jKmQUu1uvXS9w&s=19

    Two hundred and forty-nine years ago today, the Sons of Liberty tossed an entire shipment of East India Company tea into Boston Harbor in protest of the Tea Act.

    The British government considered it an act of "treason."

    1. JasonAZ   2 years ago

      Sounds insurrectiony.

      1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

        Better take their guns away before they get too uppity.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          Nobody needs a pouch that contains more than 10 musket balls.

      2. MK Ultra   2 years ago

        With a healthy dose of cultural appropriation, as well.

    2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      Very much like what Ukrainians are doing against Putin's New Eurasian Empire, right?

    3. Utkonos   2 years ago

      Was an environmental impact assessment ever conducted after this violent action?

      1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago (edited)

        Well, tea is a complimentary species with lemon trees and cane sugar, but it is an invasive sprcies to Jock Itch and Athlete’s Foot fungi from a hard day of bicycling and rickshawing, so I’m sure Eco-Wackos like mtruman would have loudly objected to the Boston Tea Party. ????

  27. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

    Biden's handlers are eager to highlight his numerous triumphs as they craft their 2024 reelection message.

    Just kidding! The message will be all about Trump: Biden allies plot 2024 strategy focused on Trump, even if he fades away

    You got 2 choices, Republicans.
    1. Do exactly what Democrats want you to do by nominating the guy who already lost to the dementia patient once.
    2. Nominate somebody else who can criticize Biden on the actual issues, which will make Democrats look especially out of touch when their campaign theme is #TrumpAboveAll despite the fact he's not even on the ballot.

    If I cared about winning I know which strategy I'd pick.

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

      What else could Biden run on?

      Republicans are in self-destruct mode with the Con Man. As Carville said "When your opponent is drowning throw them an anchor".

      1. damikesc   2 years ago

        True. Biden cannot run on any accomplishments as he has none.

      2. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

        "What else could Biden run on?"

        The economy, if it's as strong as you claim here on a daily basis.

        Maybe fulfilling his promise to "shut down the virus"? He gets credit for that, right?

        Don't forget foreign policy. During the 2020 campaign Biden said Putin was scared of him. Now we're spending billions on this sweet proxy war against Russia.

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

          The economy, if it’s as strong as you claim here on a daily basis.

          I use GDP growth as a gauge. I know that is crazy to some here.

          2021 was very strong 5.8% or so. 2022 will be about 1.5% - about Donnie's four year average.

          But the Fed is forecasting 2023 at only .5%.

          So no - he has to run against Donnie.

          1. Minadin   2 years ago

            Maybe only using GDP growth is overly simplistic in such a complex set of interconnected systems. There are a staggering number of variables you could use instead, or in addition to, the one that you have picked.

            For instance, you could look at prices vs. wages:

            https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1602690477375078401

            1. JesseAz   2 years ago

              GDP uses government spending in the calculation. It is a terrible measure.

              1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

                Wait, I thought government spending is profit?

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  For public employees yes.

            2. TrickyVic (old school)   2 years ago

              Also, Donnie's last year was the pandemic. The GDP was -3.5 for 2020. If you remove the pandemic, Donnie is about the same as Obama. State governors closing business down by mandate had more to do with the -3.5 number than Donnie.

          2. Sevo   2 years ago

            turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a TDSs-addled asshole, a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
            If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
            turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

        2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          And no more drilling!

      3. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Maybe he should run on his kid's penis since you're so obsessed with it.

    2. JesseAz   2 years ago

      KJB saying Biden has focused on the border since day 1 and it is trumps fault for the surges was hysterical.

    3. Jerry B.   2 years ago

      Youngkin or Hogan come to mind.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        * in Klinks voice* HOGAN!

        1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

          The only good thing about Lockdown Larry is he isn't a Maryland Democrat. Good for the state of Maryland given the alternatives, bad for the country.

      2. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Youngkin is pushing for a tax cut. Another big spending authoritarian.

    4. Ajsloss   2 years ago

      Does #2 include Liz Cheney?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Liz Cheney is a #2.

    5. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

      I think I'm going to judge Trumps chances of winning the nom on his latest endeavor, Trump NFTs. If people are stupid enough to buy them, they're stupid enough to nominate Trump.

      1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

        So they sold out already. Jesus, people are fucking stupid (not sure why I'm surprised).

      2. Super Scary   2 years ago

        That NFT thing is pretty dumb for sure, but what is even dumber is that he released NFTs months after anyone stopped caring about them in the first place. People were talking about NFTs being the next big thing, like cryptocurrency. In realty, people got some JPEGs of monkeys wearing different outfits.

  28. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Buttplug smiles.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/40-house-democrats-join-legislation-bar-trump-from-public-office

    Rep. David Cicilline, D-R.I., one of the House Democrats who led the second impeachment effort against Trump, introduced legislation Thursday with 40 Democratic co-sponsors that would invoke Section 3 of the 14th Amendment to prevent Trump from returning to the White House, or holding any other office.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

      Looks like he is running for office in VA:
      https://www.dailywire.com/news/virginia-democrat-jailed-after-affair-with-teen-he-then-married-seeks-open-house-seat

  29. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago (edited)

    What? Nothing about Fatass Donnie’s ridiculous NFT superhero cartoon grift? I wanted to laugh at that buffoon.

    Also known as Porkymon?

    Trump makes a fool of himself hawking weird imaginary trading cards …… Donald Trump’s weird new licensing deal selling schlocky photoshops of his face on action figure outfits that is so plainly scammy and cringe-inducing that even his most ardent supporters are covering their eyes and is only the latest in a recent string of stumbles as Trump’s star fades.

    https://www.msnbc.com/alex-wagner-tonight/watch/trump-makes-a-fool-of-himself-hawking-weird-imaginary-trading-cards-157839429938

    1. MT-Man   2 years ago

      I think most trading cars already have weird things on them see magic, pokemon, yugioh - are the cards he made part of a game? I don't understand porkymon if it's not game cards besides trying to be clever - it might be better to play off flair, topps, upperdeck etc if that was the route this new name was going..

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Walls closing in.

    3. Sevo   2 years ago

      turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

  30. Brandybuck   2 years ago

    The problem with Musk is that he's too hands on. You're the owner, so hire someone competent to run the day-to-day business for you, then step back and stick to the big business decisions.

    Musk isn't disliked because he's a Mini-Me Trump, he's disliked because he's screwing it up and blaming other people for it.

    The anti-wealth people (ei. Olberman) will always hate him, but if he had merely set policy for Twitter then let his hirelings run the place, no one would be shitting their pants right now for him kicking off journalists. Because he would not have kicked off journalists.

    Again, private companies can do what they want, but competent private companies the size of twitter do not have a single individual making every single company decision. Make the big ones but let senior staff handle the regular ones.

    1. damikesc   2 years ago

      You assume he personally did it instead of just siding with the banning due to violating the TOS.

      1. Nardz   2 years ago

        Nobody gives a shit what dimwit leftist lemmings like brandybuck "thinks"

    2. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Were the people Twitter hired competent? I remember you defending those actions.

    3. Longtobefree   2 years ago

      It was his gazillion dollars that bought it, he can run it if he wants.

    4. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      so hire someone competent to run the day-to-day business for you, then step back and stick to the big business decisions.

      I see you never ran a business.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Let him tell you for the 10th time about and illegal immigrant born in the US and was always a US citizen starting Jose Ole. Brandy knows stuff.

      2. Brandybuck   2 years ago

        No single person can possible make all the decisions a company the size of Twitter needs to make on a day to day basis. Plus he has other businesses to run as well.

    5. Dillinger   2 years ago

      >>You’re the owner, so hire someone competent to run the day-to-day business for you,

      Jack Dorsey on line 2 says "did you not hear a word I said this week?"

    6. SQRLSY One   2 years ago

      Elon has become a GOOD Little Trumpling right-wing authoritarian, and ass such, He MUST espouse that ALL powers MUST be centralized to the CORE!

    7. Use the Schwartz   2 years ago

      "You’re the owner, so hire someone competent to run the day-to-day business for you, then step back and stick to the big business decisions."

      You actually think Musk himself suspended these accounts? Whatthefuck are you talking about? He literally DID hire someone(s) to run the day-to-day.

      1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        Well, running the day-to-day in the same sense that Sulu punches in a new course for the Enterprise while Kirk looks over his shoulder.

    8. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      I agree that he shouldn’t be trying to run everything without delegation but there are people who dislike Musk because he has said things they view as right-wing.

    9. Zeb   2 years ago

      I'm not convinced that's a problem. He's figuring shit out. I like it when people try to do things differently from "they way you do things". Even if it fails, it is both entertaining and a worthwhile experiment. It took him a while to make Tesla work like a proper car manufacturer. Maybe he'll get there with Twitter too.

  31. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    A wet and fishy mess.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63996982

    The "AquaDom" - home to 1,500 tropical fish - is 15.85m high (52 ft) and was described as the largest free-standing cylindrical aquarium in the world.

    It held over 264,000 gallons of water. There are suspicions that the temperature may have had something to do with the tank bursting - it got down to 21F outside overnight.

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      As a guy who had a lovely pet betta for four years, this makes me very sad. Requiescat in pace little fishies.

      But wow, that must have been a sight. Like a dam bursting or a tidal wave hitting. The pressure at the bottom of that skyscraper of water must have been phenomenal when it burst.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        I am sure the Russians were involved.

      2. rbike   2 years ago

        Approximately 26 psi. Like a car tire bursting.

        1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          Really? That's it? Wow. Looking at it I would have thought it all that weight would have caused much more pressure.

  32. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Tomorrow is International Day To End Violence Against Sex Workers.

    Geez, way to put it off. I guess get your licks in today, creeps.

    1. Ska   2 years ago

      I think sex workers are hired to lick you, but I'm no expert.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        If you want to know, get on down to your local library. For drag queen story hour.

    2. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

      I don’t even have time to send out fresh cards!

  33. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Internal memos from the Food and Drug Administration show the agency's regulation of electronic cigarettes is based more on dubious value judgments rather than science...

    Let's be honest. It's based on tobacco lobby money.

    1. damikesc   2 years ago (edited)
    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      " dubious value judgments rather than science"

      What's the difference?

      1. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

        Either can be reproduced.

  34. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    A woman is suing the city of Tallahassee after she was removed from the Citizen Police Review Board for having a cup with an "abolish the police" sticker on it...

    Way to show your cards.

    1. damikesc   2 years ago

      Does kinda indicate an officer might have zero shot at a fair hearing with her involvement. I guess Reason feels impartiality is too much of an ask.

      1. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

        To be fair, the ex-cop sitting next to her on that board would likely harbor some of his own bias.

  35. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Sen. Elizabeth Warren's (D–Mass.) crypto bill targets financial freedom, not fraud...

    Financial freedom be fraud to Big Squaw.

  36. damikesc   2 years ago

    Should Reason just hire Mike Masnick and turf ENB? Why pay for the middleman when they can pay the originator of most of the tech ideas expressed in any article written by the alleged author?

  37. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Politics is getting in the way of what makes cities great.

    Progressive zoning policies?

    1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

      Too many people get in the way of making cities even mediocre.

      Politics are a byproduct of too many people.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Too many people is the definition of city.

      2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        I guess it depends on what your are looking for to escape mediocrity. You pretty much need to go to a fairly populated city to, say, get good Thai food.

        1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

          Good Thai food is not worth the traffic, noise, lack of parking, navigating panhandlers, and keeping one eye open for thieves.

          In fact, nothing outside of medical care is worth any of that action.

          1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

            More thai food for the rest of us then. (Which I am able to access without noise, parking problems, panhandlers or thieves. Admittedly, I have to tolerate traffic sometimes, depending on time of day.)

            1. Utkonos   2 years ago

              Ever work in a Thai restaurant? It’s a great way to Pad your resume!

  38. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/OzraeliAvi/status/1603646057480478726?t=5ww02LZtBoTewH-_eLDeow&s=19

    Amazing to see the mainstream media suddenly so anti-censorship.

    @elonmusk is a magician.

  39. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    This is your periodic reminder to never take a police polygraph.

    I assume your attorney would advise you as much.

    1. mad.casual   2 years ago

      You should never take a police polygraph because it belongs to the police and theft is wrong.

      1. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

        Booo.

  40. JasonAZ   2 years ago

    "Arguably, Musk's Twitter is even worse, since these moves are not being made by misguided, low-level content moderators or a team of deliberating individuals but the whims of one thin-skinned dude who also happens to be the head of the company."

    Unless I missed it, not one mention from ENB about the government's involvement with Twitter's previous banning and censorship. @ENB - this is your tell that you're a far left progressive and NOT a Libertarian. Libertarians don't carry water for the DNC narrative.

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Gadde was low level!!!!

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      Suddenly, "it's a private company!" doesn't work out so well.

  41. Joe M   2 years ago

    There seems to be dispute about whether the information about Elon's private flight records is public or not. It seems like the site posting the information publicly was getting that information from a non-public FAA site. So the information was public only after being posted on the doxing site.

    If anyone knows more and/or can correct that understanding please do. But it seems like saying his flight records public information would be like someone posting your social security number online and then claiming it was public information. It only became "public" after the reveal.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Paging Julian Assange...

    2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      This article explains a lot of the rules around private jet tracking:

      https://www.propublica.org/article/off-the-radar-private-planes-hidden-from-public-view-040810

      1. TrickyVic (old school)   2 years ago

        From the article

        ""Use of the national airspace is generally considered public information because pilots – whether airline captains or recreational fliers – rely on a system of air traffic controllers, radars, runways and taxiways, lighting systems and towers that are all paid for or subsidized by taxpayers.

        As a result, flight data collected by the FAA in its air traffic control system – except for military and sensitive government flights – is public information. Web sites such as FlightAware post the data online, allowing anyone to observe the system and follow most planes virtually in real time.""

        1. ThomasD   2 years ago (edited)

          The article msy explain “alot” but it avoids mentioning the important part that the FAA allows people to opt out via the LADD program.

          If you go to the website where the “kid” is getting his info you will even see a disclaimer explaining how and why the DO NOT use FAA information because of this.

    3. TrickyVic (old school)   2 years ago

      https://flightaware.com/live/

      I think you can enter the tail number of the aircraft. So it might be trackable if someone knows the number. The tail number is displayed on the aircraft in plain view.

      Here's another site.
      https://globe.adsbexchange.com/

  42. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/TheInsiderPaper/status/1603763240743337985?t=h_-YxpgFUvJCpXCgHnuhzA&s=19

    NEW: FIFA rejects Zelensky’s request to speak in a video message to fans at World Cup final - report

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      But yet they approved mine. Poor Zelensky, everyone is bored of you now.

      1. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   2 years ago

        Wow zwlwnsy has done the impossible. He made soccer fans board

  43. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    There's more to that story, ENB.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/elon-musk-polls-users-reinstating-suspended-journalists-defends-himself-twitter-spaces-chat

    In a series of tweets, Musk said the journalists — including CNN correspondent Donie O'Sullivan, New York Times technology reporter Ryan Mac, Washington Post reporter Drew Harwell, The Intercept journalist Micah Lee, Mashable writer Matt Binder, former MSNBC host Keith Olbermann and former Vox journalist Aaron Rupar — allegedly violated the platform’s new policy not to share location information.

    As Keith Olberdouche was involved, I'd say Musk might've been justified.

    1. damikesc   2 years ago

      He said they can do so...but not in real time as they were doing. And he advised of the policy and those idiots intentionally violated it. C'est la vie.

      No more Ruparing of stories. Sounds horrible.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        And also explicitly said linking to sites that post real time information was a violation.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          In a nutshell, they fucked around and found out (as goes the current meme).

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            They are victims. Don't you understand?

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

              All Democrats are victims.

              1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                Especially sarcasmic.

  44. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1603767249340342273?t=0n_vhXzO0_xtn-w7rHPplQ&s=19

    I have an idea @elonmusk

    Unban the journos who posted the dox and we can make a real time tracker for every journalist.

    They are high profile people and they should have no problem with everyone getting access to publicly available information about where they are at all times

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      "Unban the journos who posted the dox and we can make a real time tracker for every journalist."

      *Chef's kiss*

    2. ThomasD   2 years ago

      " publicly available information"

      Sort of. It's not public in the Federal Register sort of public.

      It is "public" in the exact same sense that someone following you around and broadcasting your known location makes it public information.

      So yeah, if journalists and every other high profile person is ok with being digitally stalked 24/7 then Musk should be too.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        I suspect it wouldn't be any harder than getting the NSA to post the GPS trackers on their phones.

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Can we make them wear body cams?

  45. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/ReadeAlexandra/status/1603646804951986176?t=JiR78LShuip1V_ypRDtZFA&s=19

    I notice a few reporters ( more stenographers for the empire) are whining about being suspended. In 2020, the @nytimes printed my social security number after I came forward about Biden. Relentless doxxing and death threats ensued.
    @elonmusk tear all their lies down. Expose it.

    1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

      "stenographers for the empire"

      Stolen. Thanks Tara.

  46. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/jmasseypoet/status/1603581765700009986?t=THMpbDxVWEZZx5SUdETW0g&s=19

    A handful of journalists get suspended for endangering the CEO of the platform: Unholy outrage. Real journalists uncover a massive, treasonous blacklisting operation on said platform prior to new CEO taking over: "Nothingburger."

    1. JasonAZ   2 years ago

      As I noted, ENB made zero mention of the governments involvement in the previous banning and censorship in her story above. Zero.

      But trust Reason, she's 100% a solid Libertarian.

  47. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    https://nypost.com/2022/12/15/these-lawmakers-probing-ftx-got-donations-from-bankman-fried-and-cronies/

    The majority of contributions were made to Democrats — with New York Rep. Ritchie Torres receiving a total of $35,000 from various FTX-linked donors, according to The Post’s analysis of Federal Election Commission campaign data.

  48. Nemo Aequalis   2 years ago

    What the Russians tell their troops....

    https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1579929453584863234

    1. Nardz   2 years ago

      He's not wrong

      1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

        Soooo...Are you curled in your fetal position comfortably, knowing that these men are doomed to violent death and no Paradise but The Worm's Valhalla?

        Fuck Off, Dugin Hooligan Putineer!

    2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      Yeah, the Putineers have got 100,000 killed in 10 months fighting against men who supposedly fight like girls and where is their God to save them from the Satanic enemy?

      Fuck Off, Witch-Burning Nazi!

  49. damikesc   2 years ago

    Remember --- LibsofTikTok was banned repeatedly for...posting videos posted by trannies. Nothing made up --- shit they put up willingly. That was HER crime...repeatedly.

    Fuck all of the whiners.

    1. JasonAZ   2 years ago

      And, progressives like ENB laughed their asses off. MY PRIVATE COMPANY!!! There is no bias on Twitter bans! Stop complaining!

  50. Mother's Lament   2 years ago (edited)

    “Twitter expands definition of doxxing to include links to publicly available information. Twitter CEO Elon Musk has suspended the accounts of multiple tech journalists. The suspended journalists include reporters for Mashable, CNN, The New York Times, and The Washington Post.”

    The doxxing was super shitty douchebaggery, but Musk should have hired bodyguards, sued the account holders and left the lefty extremists using the information to physically harrass him the cops.

    Free speech means tolerating shitty douchebaggery, and that’s what Musk promised. This information was already publicly available (although not easily available and coalesced).

    Musk fell for Sweeney and the “journalists” trap.

    These people are pro-censorship fascists (which makes it disgusting that ENB is treating them as legitimate) and they wanted to push the idea that some information is too dangerous to be allowed in the public realm, particularly Covid “misinformation”. They’re trying to justify the Covid censorship.

    And Musk fell for it.

    What he should have done instead of closing the accounts was sue the ever living fuck out of them instead.

    1. Nardz   2 years ago

      You need to get over this noble loser fallacy.
      There are no rules, only weapons.
      Nothing is off the table because the behavior of totalitarians is not restricted by the restraint decent people (the rest of us) hold themselves to, it's only emboldened.
      The mass censorship and psyop already happened.
      The only thing that matters now is the physical destruction of leftist totalitarians.

      1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

        People like you are why conservatives no longer have any moral high ground.

        1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

          When the moral high ground is relentlessly being bombed and shelled, it's time to pull out.

      2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        "You need to get over this noble loser fallacy.
        There are no rules, only weapons."

        Yeah, no.

        We're still in the psyop hearts and minds stage and don't need to hand over millions of potential sympathizers because they think we're dangerous and the fascists are "safe".

        1. Nardz   2 years ago

          We're way beyond that point.
          Leftists aren't constrained by reality.
          They manufacture what they need to broadcast.
          Thr only thing that stops them is hitting back, like Musk did here. They freak out, and that pulls them back into reality because they start emoting and talking about a real event.
          All this did was highlight the issue of censorship.
          Regular people are not as inherently dumb as you assume.
          Leftists start whining about censorship, squawking about how they've been wronged and are righteously outraged. Joe Smith hears the cacophony and, unbidden, a thought comes into his head: isn't this what they've been promoting for years?
          Hit back. Nobody respects a pushover. Stop being scared of virility.

          1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

            Love you Nardz, but I'm not scared. Just sensible.

    2. JasonAZ   2 years ago

      You say that, but let's see how you feel when some lunatic accost your child.

      He made the policy change publicly and clearly. These folks violated the new rules, so they got suspended. Zero fucks given.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        You and Jesse both make a good point that the rule change was explicit and well known.

        But I still stand by my point that this was a trap to legitimize the Covid censorship, that Musk had other ways to deal with it and that we have lost because of it.

        Now the next time we say "Covid censorship on Twitter was wrong", people akin to Jeff will say "Covid censorship was preventing dangerous knowledge from getting out, just like how releasing Musk's already publicly-available tracking information on Twitter was dangerous."

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          If the rule on Twitter is "only cdc information regarding covid " it is at least explicitly stated. If it is "no medical misinfirmation" it is not.

          1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

            That doesn't matter to the people who are going to read "Musk Censors Journalists" everywhere this morning.
            We can argue that Musk was technically and morally right, but it was a rhetorical loss for free speech and a big one.

        2. JasonAZ   2 years ago

          The difference is Musk's concerns are provable and valid. The previous policy of allowing real time data led to an incident. As such, policy was modified. They can still post the data, just not in real time.

          COVID censorship on Twitter relied entirely on government information that was questionable at the time and is now provably incorrect. Twitter and other Social Media platforms were banning and censoring people and entities that were/are subject matter experts in their fields. Their crime? Questioning the incorrect data provided by the CDC and our federal government.

          Progressives cannot point to the validity of COVID censorship, as it was factually wrong. Nearly every position taken by Fauci and the CDC has been proven wrong.

          1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

            I understand the difference, and you're right.

            But in the public PR war, that's not what ordinary people are going to think without a much deeper examination of what the news is feeding them. Which nobody's going to do.

            This was a rhetorical win for the censors.

      2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

        There's no way ML has children. Bacteria reproduce by fission.

        1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          Speaking of Bacteria.
          You know Sarc, nobody has ever called CPS on me for abusing my child. Can you say the same?

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            I can.

    3. Dillinger   2 years ago

      lol please continue to tell the billionaire who owns the company what he should do.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        Okay?

    4. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Somebody’s option about something isn’t dangerous. Tracking info on people can be.

    5. JesseAz   2 years ago

      My stance is the same as when Ravelry banned trump prints. The rule is explicit. Just like it is here.

      I have no problem with explicit rules. That's up to the company. I have a problem with vague rules and enforced in a biased manner.

    6. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Maybe. Musk can also hire enough people to track his critics, and their kids, and post their locations hourly.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        Would have been a far better idea, tbqh.

  51. Longtobefree   2 years ago

    What a concept; treat journalists like the rest of us idiots.

    1. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

      That's what happened in New York state a while back. The publisher of a newspaper was going to publish the names and addresses of legal registered gun owners. When she was told someone was going to publish the names and addresses of everyone who worked at the paper she dropped the issue.

  52. Ajsloss   2 years ago

    Senator Mike Lee is a shithead.

  53. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    https://nypost.com/2022/12/15/woke-hypocrisy-on-anti-semitism-knows-no-bounds/

    Hostility to Jews on US college campuses is soaring, the Anti-Defamation League reports: Anti-Semitic incidents (including hurled slurs and vandalism) are up more than 200% since 2014.

    1. Utkonos   2 years ago

      You know who else caused anti-semitism to soar on college campuses?

      1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

        Harvard elites during the days of admissions and hiring quotas?

  54. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/AuronMacintyre/status/1603773434793803776?t=KcGL7fRjvWSzRZp1YhnqwQ&s=19

    Critical point

    One of the core reasons Twitter was so value for progressive journalists was the ability to coordinate the very public destruction of their enemies

    Obviously their other planforms already gave them this capacity but Twitter brough the element of coordination to a different level

  55. ThomasD   2 years ago (edited)

    “that shared publicly available information about his flight plans. ”

    Not true.

    Musk has signed up for the FAA’s LADD – Limiting Aircraft Data Displayed.

    https://nbaa.org/aircraft-operations/security/privacy/limiting-aircraft-data-displayed-ladd/

    His flight information is NOT publicly available.

    The guy who runs the Musk tracking website gets around that by knowing where Musk’s planes were last and revealing their otherwise anonymized flight paths.

    1. ThomasD   2 years ago (edited)

      So, to be clear what the “kid” (as his defenders are calling an adult) is doing may be legal. But just as clearly Musk is under no obligation to assist him in that matter.

      Because I strongly doubt Reason writers would allow commenters here to post real time updates of their physical locations.

      But maybe I’m wrong. So what say you ENB? If you have problem with that just let us know. Otherwise we can assume it’s ok, right?

      1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

        this is TOTES the same as banning babylon bee for a pronoun joke.

    2. mad.casual   2 years ago

      It, per the usual journolist retardation, dissolves the entirety of the Constitution to:
      Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

      No 5A, no 4A, no right to associate, or not, no borders, no emanations or penumbras, or habeas corpus, or ownership or theft, just pure grist for the journolist mill.

  56. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago (edited)

    Pelosi attack suspect planned to target Hunter Biden, Gavin Newsom and Tom Hanks, police official says ………… “There is evil in Washington, what they did went so far beyond the campaign. It originates with Hillary (Clinton),” David DePape told San Francisco Police Department Lt. Carla Hurley in an interview after the attack, Hurley testified during a preliminary hearing, according to CNN affiliate KPIX.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/14/politics/paul-pelosi-attack-depape-hearing-trial/index.html

    I get Hil-Dog, Gavin Newsom, and Hunter Biden but when did Tom Hanks become an enemy to wingnuts?

    1. Sevo   2 years ago

      turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a pathological liar, and a kiddie diddler,entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental. If he included numbers they are either out-right lies or cherry picked such that if used by an honest person, they would prove the opposite of what turd is claiming
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

  57. Spinach Chin   2 years ago (edited)

    “Twitter expands definition of doxxing to include links to publicly available information”

    Fucking dishonest bullshit.

    The most common form of doxxing, posting someone’s address, phone number, or photos of their home, is ALSO publicly available information.

  58. Dillinger   2 years ago

    I can't imagine what it feels like to hate your addiction but it is entertaining to watch.

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Rage tweeting about how she is the true libertarian while drinking her 2nd bottle of wine is hilarious.

      1. ThomasD   2 years ago

        Drinking two bottles of wine would be the most libertarian thing about her.

    2. JasonAZ   2 years ago (edited)

      ENB can stop Twitter at any time. She’s not an addict.

      As noted by all the Mastodon links, right?

  59. Naime Bond   2 years ago

    Simply change your TOS so that if someone wants to dox public information in real time, they must wear an ankle bracelet that posts their location, in real time.

  60. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    "Tomorrow is International Day To End Violence Against Sex Workers"

    Is there a party?

    1. Longtobefree   2 years ago

      If there is, there will be a large "fee" to attend.

  61. nobody 2   2 years ago

    Tim Pool made a video today about the doxxing story for anyone who wants to know what's happening from an actual journalist.

    1. Nardz   2 years ago (edited)

      Tim Pool, whose studio has notably been swatted something like a dozen times

  62. Use the Schwartz   2 years ago

    ENB seems really upset.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      Musk took away her progressive playground. Now she has to either face the world as it is or find somewhere else to go, and there's not really much elsewhere to go.

      1. Use the Schwartz   2 years ago

        No, like REALLY upset, nearing victimhood upset. Homing in on those sweet, sweet, special rights of victimhood.

    2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      I don’t see it. Can you point to specific things she wrote in her blog post above that indicate her being upset?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        You wouldn't as you follow her around like a lost puppy on Twitter and praise every fart she makes.

      2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        Mike is so dense.

  63. Sevo   2 years ago

    MDS is as amusing as TDS, reminds me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaB_G1WNT70
    Folks, he bought the company, it's a gossip site, if he wants to prohibit people with green eyes, SO WHAT?!
    Unlike the assholes who formerly ran the place, he's not a government toady.

  64. Dillinger   2 years ago

    lol Mike Lee: "Potter Stewart, hold my beer!"

  65. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

    Man you guys really got Elon this time! Twitter would be so much better under Vijaya!

    1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      It's also yet more evidence that the new Twitter isn't going to be better than the old Twitter,

      Oh man, you're totally right! The new Twitter is just as petty and one-sided and arbitrary as the old Twitter!

      1. Utkonos   2 years ago

        It’s now LITERALLY TWITLER!!!

  66. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1603709356641378304?t=h9DBd9OCnBIRPVQmdzGaJg&s=19

    To avoid being labeled a bigot, you have to agree to be insane. UK hospital policy now mandates that women who question why trans “women” (biological men) are in female-only wards are told by hospital authorities "there are no men here" and must stop complaining or be kicked out

    [Link]

    1. mad.casual   2 years ago

      Also, any dead hookers you may or may not see are just figments of your imagination.

  67. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

    Amusing to see some of the very same people who vehemently criticized the old Twitter for banning conservative users now cheering on Musk’s Twitter for banning liberals. It’s almost like it is about team sports, not principles.

    1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      Except that's not what's happening. But keep trying.

      They are cheering Twitter for banning doxxers and violent extremists. Twitter has NOT banned random liberals like it used to do for right wingers.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      People like Keith Olberdouche should've been banned long ago if the rules were fair. If the rules were fair at Twitter prior to Musk's purchase, then rich bitch Taylor Lorenz should've gotten the ban stick as well.

    3. Dillinger   2 years ago

      difference is nobody's cheering.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        To be fair I am laughing.

        1. Dillinger   2 years ago

          oh ya because fucking just desserts. but not cheering, a little kid was put in danger.

      2. ThomasD   2 years ago

        I don't know. I'm enjoying the raging hypocrisy he is causing the mentally unbalanced media to openly display.

    4. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

      I mean we can all read the posts above. We don’t need the strawman you’ve created.

      You also seem upset after defending the actions regarding biased use of vague rules and comparing it to an explicit rule.

    5. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      "It’s almost like it is about team sports, not principles"

      I just criticized Musk above, but that kinda ruins White Mike's narrative so he's ignoring that. He's principled that way.

  68. TJJ2000   2 years ago

    "It seems Musk's 'power to the people' mantra only applies when the people agree with what Musk himself wants."

    Oh what's that??? Preventing personal attacks by the left and their gangster mentality? OMG! Heaven forbid!

    What an idiotic take.

    1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      ^ they're trying so hard to convince us all that 1. Elon's style is no different in scope, approach, and effect than the previous petty partisans who ran the site and 2. all the petty bans from the past were legit .

      1. ThomasD   2 years ago

        Oceania, Eastasia, some Reason writing required...

  69. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    I like this very sudden obsession with Twitter that establishment journalists have. We get daily articles on every account that was banned and magnifying glass analysis over why and how. Wouldn't that have been nice when they were banning all the feminists in 2020 for merely having the unmitigated gall of defining a woman?

    Also, I posted this in a thread last night, but I'm posting it again. I couldn't find the original source I posted from yesterday, so here's CNBC:

    “This is my fault alone,” Dorsey wrote. “I completely gave up pushing for them when an activist entered our stock in 2020.”

    Regarding Twitter’s decision to suspend Trump, Dorsey said he believes “there was no ill intent or hidden agendas, and everyone acted according to the best information we had at the time.”

    Still, he said that “mistakes were made” and Twitter would be in a better position today if the company “focused more on tools for the people using the service rather than tools for us.”

    Dorsey said that in general social messaging platforms shouldn’t take down content or suspend accounts, because “doing so complicates important context, learning, and enforcement of illegal activity.”

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      Dorsey kind of sort of admits that Activists got hold of the reins (he notes "activist" (singular) but apparently he's referring to the activist investment firm. So this would probably be the activist investor firm that the NYT reported back in 2020 that "wanted him (Jack Dorsey) out". Probably because Dorsey wasn't banning enough.

    2. ThomasD   2 years ago

      If only Dorsey knew!

    3. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      At this point, I think I'm going to agree with commenter Cyto's characterization of this whole thing.

      The story I'd like to read is why Journalists are all printing the exact same articles about Twitter at the exact same time. There's some interesting group-think analysis to be done here.

      1. ThomasD   2 years ago

        Group think analysis is predicated on the idea that there is thought going in to all of this.

        The only thought they are engaging in is whether to join in with the displays of in-group behavior.

        Yep, it's that shallow.

      2. Dillinger   2 years ago

        >>agree with commenter Cyto’s characterization

        yes.

        1. ThomasD   2 years ago

          So I've scrolled through the thread twice and don't see a Cyto comment. Is it in another thread? Anyone got a link? Pretty sure I don't have him purposefully blocked...

          1. Dillinger   2 years ago

            yesterday in roundup he wrote like 4 pages of a post. was entirely well thought out and right on.

            1. ThomasD   2 years ago (edited)

              Thanks.

              Found it. It’s in the Roundup from the 14th (TikTok.)

              Add me to the list in agreement.

            2. Cyto   2 years ago

              That is my trademark.... the manifesto length screed.

              I am the yin to Fist's yang. I manage to communicate in only 12 paragraphs what he communicates in 8 words.

              1. Dillinger   2 years ago

                ya brevity soul wit. I love that you signed up for twitter though I was thinking the same thing (now i'll sign up lol)

          2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

            Another thread, another day.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              For laughs, check out out very own White Knight Mike Laursen there. @MikeLaursen2

      3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Cool hive mind, bro.

      4. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        It's almost as if marching orders come from somewhere. It's rather eerie to see 10 or 20 journalists all posting the exact same sentence(s) on a subject. It would be easy to miss if one is watching one cable news channel (i.e. CNN or MSNBC) or reading a paper (i.e. NYT), but when you see them all together on Twitter, it's very odd indeed.

        1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago (edited)

          I don’t believe it has anything to do with marching orders. I just really believe that it’s a self-reinforcing groupthink. Twitter is a journalist circle jerk, they all tweet and retweet each other, follow each other etc.

          Twitter journalism is essentially a bunch of men in a burlap sack swapping hats for a living.

          1. Dillinger   2 years ago

            all spawn of The Jornolist.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

              This is the actual answer--they're just coordinating their talking points on a proprietary forum somewhere. It's not so much group-think, as it is an Operation Mockingbird type of setup where their narrative becomes the conventional wisdom.

          2. Cyto   2 years ago

            We have plenty of evidence that it is more than that.

            My first clue was all the way back in the early 90s when I found CSPAN. I would watch the DNC press briefing in the capital rotunda, and hours later Peter Jennings, Dan Rather, et. al. would use the exact phrase from the briefing as if it were their own thought.

            Example: the Republicans were proposing some reform to social security. The democrat spokesman called it a "risky scheme".

            It was a very unique phrase. When Jennings said "Tonight, Republicans are proposing a risky scheme to...." I noticed.

            So I flipped channels. Dan Rather: "as Republicans push a risky scheme to..."

            Everyone repeated the poll-tested phrase. Framing the debate.

            I was content with bias as an explanation... but they were repeating what they were told word for word as if it was truth, not something they were told to say.

            Then came the journolist.

            And now? News cycles are so fast. Things come and go so quickly.

            We watched every single news outlet talk about how some right wing nut job upset over Kyle Rittenhouse went on a murderous rage at a Christmas parade. Then, they all reported that a red SUV drove through the parade. The change was instant and simultaneous.

            The same people who loudly said Twitter was a private company who could censor whoever they want also told us that shadow bans don't exist. Simultaneously they all switched to Twitter *must* censor and shadow bans are an important protection for democracy.

            Now we have the receipts. We know that the FBI and the White House and the Biden Campaign and other government agencies had a direct pipeline to tell Twitter what they want done.

            Why would anyone believe that the Biden Campaign cares enough to squash random people on Twitter, but not rhe New York Times? Of course they have a direct pipeline to the news room editors at the New York Times. Of course the FBI and CIA and the CDC are telling them what to say.

            The "repeating what someone you follow on twitter says" thing undoubtedly happens. But so does the visit from the FBI.

            I had no idea the bureaucracy would be so bold before the Twitter files dropped. Things are way worse than that nutjob wearing the tinfoil hat back in the 90s ever dreamed.

            1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

              "Things are way worse than that nutjob wearing the tinfoil hat back in the 90s ever dreamed."

              Who could have imagined that the Xeroxed pamphlets left in the waiting room at the repair shop were pretty much true. After the last five years it would no longer shock me to find out that the queen was still alive and an alien reptile.

    4. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      “sudden obsession with Twitter that establishment journalists have”

      Suderman made a spot-on analogy on the latest Reason Roundtable: [paraphrasing…] Twitter is like a bar where all the journalists are used to hanging out, and Musk suddenly bought the bar and changed the drink menu.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        Has anyone ever read White Mike's twitter? It's a thing to behold.
        He tries to portray himself as the ultimate Reason insider.

  70. Nemo Aequalis   2 years ago

    Apparently Musk, having realized he's spent $44 billion on a white elephant, has decided his only rational course of action is to have as much fun as possible.

    Good for him!

  71. mad.casual   2 years ago

    Tomorrow is International Day To End Violence Against Sex Workers. More on the day's history, events, and mission here.

    For $20, I'll be against whatever violence you want for a day.

  72. KarenMuller   2 years ago (edited)

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  73. JFree   2 years ago

    Happy Birthday Beethoven

  74. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    • Tomorrow is International Day To End Violence Against Sex Workers. More on the day's history, events, and mission here.

    I thought that was already covered in the #StopAsianHate campaign.

  75. Agammamon   2 years ago

    "Twitter expands definition of doxxing to include links to publicly available information"

    Sorry ENB but your buddy Masnick has already expanded it way past that. To his crowd a personal email address is doxxing and a serious physical danger.

  76. Jefferson's Ghost   2 years ago

    Completely and utterly OFF TOPIC. But hey, this is the "Roundup," right?

    "The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) quietly removed a range of gun statistics from its website after gun control advocates complained that the statistics made gun control laws harder to pass, according to emails between CDC officials and gun control activists."

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/cdc-quietly-scrubbed-key-firearm-stats-after-pressure-from-gun-control-activists-emails-show/ar-AA15kFqy?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=cab64597619d4d7ba8b8c14dc5827fa9

    1. Longtobefree   2 years ago

      This is called a "public - private partnership", and is a good thing.
      Sit down and shut up.

      1. Jefferson's Ghost   2 years ago

        LOL. Good one.

  77. mad.casual   2 years ago

    "Without every last government-funded abortion being freely published for everyone to see, democracy dies." - ENB

  78. Longtobefree   2 years ago

    I will wait for the story where mean old Elon bans extremist Muslims for calling for the destruction of Israel.

    1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      He doesnt want to get beheaded.

  79. Marshal   2 years ago

    Arguably, Musk's Twitter is even worse, since these moves are not being made by misguided, low-level content moderators or a team of deliberating individuals but the whims of one thin-skinned dude who also happens to be the head of the company.

    This is inadvertently revealing. Musk is defending himself, while the previous censors defended leftist politics generally. Thus Musk's range of censorship is both far smaller and of lesser importance. But ENB concludes it is worse simply because it is done in defense of the right instead of the left.

    1. mad.casual   2 years ago (edited)

      But ENB concludes it is worse simply because it is done in defense of the “right” instead of the left.

      FIFY

      It's only a right vs. left thing if you think it's OK to stalk some people and not others.

      1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

        Yeah, the bans Twitter has implemented are not even close to the same kind of bans or for the same reasons as previous bans.

        The failure to reinstate Alex Jones and the ban for Ye are the ones she should focus on here to make her point. But she cant because she supports those bans.

  80. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

    This is your periodic reminder to never take a police polygraph.

    Never talk to the police, ever, except maybe to say exactly what your lawyer told you to say.

    1. SRG   2 years ago

      Yup:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE

    2. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      Every damn time

  81. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Speaking of assholes...

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/nbc-suspends-reporter-ben-collins-for-criticizing-elon-musk

    NBC News has suspended reporter Ben Collins from appearing on NBC and MSNBC following his critical tweets about Elon Musk, including one in which he mocked the Twitter CEO for only discovering “who his company’s deputy general counsel was six weeks after he purchased it.” A source familiar with the decision told The Daily Beast that the decision was made to remove him from the air earlier this month.

    Have fun off-air, Ben.

    1. HorseConch   2 years ago

      Not knowing who the deputy general counsel is? He fucking owned Musk, and now NBC is doing the bidding of a white supremacist billionaire.

  82. nudj12   2 years ago

    "Further showcasing a lack of principles, Musk ran a Twitter poll yesterday asking when he should allow the suspended tech journalists to return to Twitter—then balked at following through when people voted that they should be reinstated immediately. ("Sorry, too many options. Will redo poll," Musk tweeted.)"

    This is ridiculous. A minority said to reinstate. He really did redo the poll (to "reinstate now" vs in "7 days") because the outcome was not clear. That new poll ends in a few hours and has clear support for "reinstate now". When Musk reinstates them later today, will ERB retract this attack? I'm sorry, Mrs Brown is just not a serious writer.

  83. SRG   2 years ago

    Musk changed the definition of "doxxing" and his good little Muskettes naturally defend him because he pisses off the libs. How surprising

    1. Dillinger   2 years ago

      lol 9 people is "the libs"

      1. SRG   2 years ago

        He didn't just piss off the 9 journos he suspended, you know.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          He applied the same broad definition that those journalists claimed was True and Honest Doxxing prior to him buying Twitter.

          You're just assmad that your side's the one getting it shoved down your throat this time.

          He didn’t just piss off the 9 journos he suspended, you know.

          Yeah, a bunch of neocons are pissed off about it, too, which is a level of irony that shouldn't even be possible given their love of government spy programs.

    2. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      LOL yeah Musk is totally doing the same thing as the previous management. it's like nothing has changed!

    3. aajax   2 years ago

      I defend him because he’s defending his kids. These doxxers and their enablers are assholes.

      1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        It’s a tenuous connection between tracking his private plane and knowing where his son would be driving around.

        1. Dillinger   2 years ago

          people never drive away from private jets. never.

      2. SRG   2 years ago

        You're defending him because you believe his claim. You should buy those Trump NFTs, They're bound to go up!

  84. Truthteller1   2 years ago

    Love seeing the mindless sheep bleating.

  85. Bill Falcon   2 years ago

    ENG is so disingenuous on so many levels. She didn't like Musk buying Twitter in the first place. "Low level misguided..." no it was high level far left (Roth for example) censoring people often after the govt or media "journalists" contacted them. LIve location...do you really want people to know where you are presently? If they know the area you reside in and are staking out locations?

    I don't get Reason. They defend bolshie left at every level. Make excuses for them. I think it comes down to they have become a cosmo "woke" fake libertarian group. Abortion, open borders, and gay rights including in their mind the insane transgender movement obsessed with mutilating kids.

    Like the LP before it was liberated by the VM caucus, Reason has been taken over by politically correct NYC/DC types who defend the left at every chance. Time the Reason Foundation cleaned house

    1. Utkonos   2 years ago

      Wanna know where ENB is right now? Hold on one sec—yep, got it (this dox stuff is actually pretty easy)!
      She’s at The Pretty Pink Pussy…wait, what’s a “Bordello?”

      1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

        So, you're doxxing her box? 🙂

        1. Utkonos   2 years ago

          Helping her snatch victory from jaws of da tweet?

  86. Heraclitus   2 years ago

    Many moral lessons here:
    1) Russia Russia Russia seems hyperbolic until Taibbi and other contrarians start unloading "bombshells" that are not bombshells and goes hyperbolic themselves. That kind of hypocrisy becomes the news.
    2) Musk learned real quick that it's one thing to stand on the sidelines and complain about censorship but another to have to be in charge. Perhaps he and the rest of the mediasphere will realize that the world is full of trolls and that yes, you have to censor the bad-faith trolls out there.
    3) So what does this tell us? That yes, trolls were trying to take down Biden and Clinton and it was not crazy of them to point out that some went too far and needed investigating. It wasn't a "hoax" as they say. This is the world we live in. Crying about censorship while winking and nodding to the trolls is stupid and once you get in charge and trolled yourself. Well, you get what you deserve.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      Literally nothing you wrote here is accurate except for this phrase:
      Well, you get what you deserve.

      And your side is now getting it, good and hard. That simpering soymunch Aaron Rupar might actually kill himself without his dopamine, which would be a net benefit for the entire human race.

    2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      "That yes, trolls were trying to take down Biden and Clinton and it was not crazy of them to point out that some went too far and needed investigating."

      How much blue do you have to smoke to imagine that the proles fucking around on social media are the problem, and not the massive government censorship campaign bent on hiding Hillary's Clinton Foundation scams and Biden's bribery scandal?

      Not even Shrike would try to get away with such a stupid fucking post. This retard must watch CNN all day.

  87. tekcoyote   2 years ago

    Hmm...this didn't seem to be a problem until Elon bought Twitter. Now it's a crisis of biblical proportion. Now why might that be?

    1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      And the opposite: for many partisans that complained about accounts being suspended, suddenly it is A-OK.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        You, White Mike, right here, blew off complaints about the federal government telling Twitter to censor political adversaries, and now all of a sudden a literal "Muh private company" action earns your scorn.
        You want to explain that, Mike?

      2. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

        imagine being this much of a simp for the regime. amazing

    2. mtrueman   2 years ago

      "Hmm…this didn’t seem to be a problem until Elon bought Twitter. "

      It was never a problem for me. It's only a 'problem' for Elon because he owns Twitter. A problem entirely of his own doing, just like the fuss over tracing the movement of his private jet. He'd be afforded a much greater degree of privacy in his travels if he sold the jet or left it in the hangar, and flew commercial like normal people. This poor little rich kid shtick is wearing thin.

  88. Karen Mcdaniel   2 years ago (edited)

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  89. BigFish92672   2 years ago

    "It's also unclear precisely what got each of the suspended journalists the boot, but Musk implied they were all guilty of violating Twitter's anti-doxxing policy."

    ummm...what is unclear about that?

  90. Fiddlinmike   2 years ago

    The second Reason article today that really disappointed me.

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