Don't Believe the People Blaming Crime on Defunded Police
Plus: the pandemic baby bump, how government is killing starter homes, and more...

Police budgets are up in cities across America. It's a tale as old as time that politicians benefit by whipping up crime panic and accusing opponents of being soft on the issue. And so it goes in 2022, with candidates—mostly conservatives, but also some Democrats trying to position themselves as centrists—insisting that 1) crime is rising, and 2) it's the fault of criminal justice reform policies. Both claims are highly suspect (see this recent Roundup for more on crime data), and especially so the flavor of blame that suggests this mythical crime wave is the fault of liberals and progressives "defunding the police."
Yes, "defund the police" became a popular rallying cry in the summer of 2020, as people all over the country took to the streets to protest police brutality. And, yes, it can still be heard as a refrain in some activist circles. But even as some mainstream politicians briefly flirted with this rhetoric, it's never been a serious policy proposal, nor one that many (if any) leaders—local or national—have acted upon.
President Joe Biden—long a friend of the police and proponent of dubious crime panic policies—recently proposed in his Safer America Plan some $37 billion in federal funding for cops. "President Biden's fiscal year 2023 budget requests a fully paid-for new investment of approximately $35 billion to support law enforcement and crime prevention – in addition to the President's $2 billion discretionary request for these same programs," noted the White House.
Cities and counties, too, have been raising police budgets. ABC News "examined the budgets of more than 100 cities and counties and found 83% are spending at least 2% more on police in 2022 than in 2019."
The ABC News analysis included most major big and mid-size metropolitan areas, including Albuquerque, Anchorage, Atlanta, Austin, Baltimore, Boise, Boston, Chicago, Cincinnati, Dallas, Denver, Detroit, Honolulu, Houston, Indianapolis, Kansas City, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Louisville, Memphis, Miami, Milwaukee, New Orleans, New York City, Newark, Oakland, Omaha, Orlando, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Pittsburgh, Portland, Sacramento, San Antonio, San Diego, San Francisco, Seattle, St. Louis, Washington, D.C., and Wichita, among others.
Of the 109 areas examined, 49 raised law enforcement funding by more than 10 percent and 91 raised it by at least 2 percent. Only 8 places cut funding to law enforcement by more than 2 percent.
Nonetheless, politicians, pundits, and police persist in spreading the politically convenient myth that law enforcement agencies have been massively defunded. "Despite what the public record shows, an analysis of broadcast transcripts reveals that candidates, law enforcement leaders and television hosts discussed the impact of 'defunding the police' more than 10,000 times the last two years and the mentions aren't subsiding this campaign season," ABC found.
Take scandal plagued Los Angeles County Sheriff Alex Villanueva. He claims that crime is up because "defunding has consequences." Meanwhile, "his agency's budget is up more than $250 million," according to ABC. In Los Angeles County, the police budget was up to $3.6 billion in 2021–2022, from $3.3 billion in 2018–2019.
"Even if the cuts were real, the premise that lower police spending leads to increased crime (or the other way around) is counter to decades of evidence, according to public data and criminal justice experts," ABC points out:
An ABC OTV analysis of state and local police funding and violent crime data in the U.S. overall between 1985 and 2020 found no relationship between year-to-year police spending and crime rates. (An analysis by the Washington Post found similar results from 1960 to 2018.)
Further analysis of Los Angeles County's own crime data show violent crime numbers don't move up or down with any relationship to money spent on law enforcement or the number of officers on patrol.
But lately, budget cuts are resolutely not the case in many places.
In Chicago, the police budget was $1.9 billion in 2021–2022, up from $1.7 billion in 2018–2019. In Phoenix, the police budget in 2021–2022 was $786.7 million, up from $687.8 million in 2018–2019. And even in places where there have been some drops, the budgets are still massive. For instance, in New York City, the 2021–2022 budget was down to $5.4 billion from $5.6 billion in 2018–2019. This year's budget is still up from $5.2 billion in 2020–2021.
FREE MINDS
Baby bump seems to be continuing. A National Bureau of Economic Research paper from Martha J. Bailey, Janet Currie & Hannes Schwandt drills down into the data on the COVID-19 baby bump. Here's the abstract:
We use restricted natality microdata covering the universe of U.S. births for 2015-2021 and California births from 2015 to August 2022 to examine the childbearing response to the COVID-19 pandemic. Although fertility rates declined in 2020, these declines appear to reflect reductions in travel to the U.S. Childbearing in the U.S. among foreign-born mothers declined immediately after lockdowns began—nine months too soon to reflect the pandemic's effects on conceptions. We also find that the COVID pandemic resulted in a small "baby bump" among U.S.-born mothers. The 2021 baby bump is the first major reversal in declining U.S. fertility rates since 2007 and was most pronounced for first births and women under age 25, which suggests the pandemic led some women to start their families earlier. Above age 25, the baby bump was also pronounced for women ages 30-34 and women with a college education, who were more likely to benefit from working from home. The data for California track the U.S. data closely and suggest that U.S. births remained elevated through the third quarter of 2022.
FREE MARKETS
What happened to the starter home? It's been squeezed out of existence in large part by government regulations and policies, suggests Emily Badger in The New York Times. American builders used to construct "starter homes"—small-ish but enough for a family, "no-frills homes that would give a family new to the country or a young couple with student debt a foothold to build equity"—that would sell for around $100,000 or so in the 1990s and $200,000 in today's dollars. But "the affordable end of the market has been squeezed from every side. Land costs have risen steeply in booming parts of the country. Construction materials and government fees have become more expensive. And communities nationwide are far more prescriptive today than decades ago about what housing should look like and how big it must be. Some ban vinyl siding. Others require two-car garages. Nearly all make it difficult to build the kind of home that could sell for $200,000 today."
"Nationwide, the small detached house has all but vanished from new construction," notes Badger. "Only about 8 percent of new single-family homes today are 1,400 square feet or less. In the 1940s, according to CoreLogic, nearly 70 percent of new houses were that small."
The price of land is one problem. Permits and fees from local governments are another.
In Portland, Ore., a lot may cost $100,000. Permits add $40,000-$50,000. Removing a fir tree 36 inches in diameter costs another $16,000 in fees.
"You've basically regulated me out of anything remotely on the affordable side," said Justin Wood, the owner of Fish Construction NW.>>
The issue comes at a time when smaller homes are in high demand.
Badger followed up the above piece (published in late September) with another on starter homes, asking "If America needs starter homes, why are perfectly good ones being torn down?"
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This is outrageous. A 72-year-old U.S. citizen was sentenced to 16 years in prison and subject to torture in *Saudi Arabia* for years-old tweets he posted while in the United States. His son is accusing the State Department of mishandling the case. https://t.co/RiUEvKZ1lC pic.twitter.com/x1bFuHkQsN
— Sarah McLaughlin (@sarahemclaugh) October 18, 2022
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• GloriFi, billed as a conservative alternative to the likes of PayPal and traditional banks, is off to a rocky start.
• Student loan debt relief ranks low on the issues that young voters are concerned with:
https://twitter.com/dylanmatt/status/1582081628230549505
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A 72-year-old U.S. citizen was sentenced to 16 years in prison and subject to torture in *Saudi Arabia* for years-old tweets he posted while in the United States.
"Now that's how you handle online misinformation!"
No word from reason about bidens political opposition being held in solitary for almost 2 uears
With no bail.
And finally charged with "parading".
Parading? That's an actual thing?
I mean, it sounds like what you'd charge a person with who got drunk, wore a fez, and drove around the street in a tiny car.
Yes. That has been the primary charge.
"Parading" in an attempt to subvert democracy, doncha know.
What about taking a red SUV to a parade?
What are your political views?
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But from the little I could read, the judge is questioning the charges being brought because of the message it sends (politically is what I got from it)? That’s fucked up.
(in Yakov Smirnoff voice)
In normal jurisdiction, judge dismisses baseless / disproportionate charges against you.
In "progressive" jurisdiction, judge complains prosecutors didn't give you enough baseless / disproportionate charges.
They're all in DC. Too local.
If you watched any footage of Jan. 6 and describe that abomination as "political opposition," you are literally an insane, blind person.
But you didn't watch any of it, did you?
Tony, we all know that if they were BLM and Antifa rioters on J6 that you would endlessly defend them. The differemce is, we don’t defend these people. They were wrong. But it was in no way an ‘insurrection’. Which why they’re charged with bullshit like ‘parading’.
Ust you’re too much of a stupid faggot shitweasel to understand that.
I've never defended any of these criminals, so I guess you have neither logic nor facts at your disposal.
Wait until they are snatching people here in the US, holding them incommunicado, for the crimes of wrongthink. But they'll probably call it renditioning, or something, so it doesn't sound so ...
Oh. OOoooooh.
It has become quite frequent to see commenters here talking about hypotheticals as if they have actually happened.
Caw caw!
Cite?
It’s become quite clear that you only think what you’re commanded to think by your Marxist masters.
Now fuck off, Dee. You bitch!
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OBL, you should be indignant. Biden says 90% of the student loan forgiveness is going to those making less than $75,000. How can you support a president who doesn't cater to your "already wealthy base?" Or is Biden lying???
GloriFi, billed as a conservative alternative to the likes of PayPal and traditional banks, is off to a rocky start.
Is it allowing gun sales only?
Assault rifles only.
It is almost like customer capture is a thing. And it takes time to pull customers away even when the provider sucks. See phone companies.
And something like this needs customers on both sides. They not only need people to set up user accounts, they need people to use their product to actually sell stuff as well.
But this isn't even a matter of customer capture. It is a matter of them not launching a working business ("Technology" and "Vendor" issues). Yeah, they have stuff out there now, but that was after burning through millions of dollars- poured into the CEO's house, which doubled as their office.
This entire business stinks like the grifter-run "Tea Party" organizations that started up and bilked millions out of conservatives back in 2009. From the name, "GloriFi", which is obviously chosen to tap into the DeFi craze, to their use of vendors to build the technology, to their outsourcing of the actual banking, and then turning to a SPAC before they really even have products tested in the market.
I want the market to have many alternatives to the existing tech companies, but when you see shit like this happening, it seems more like the standard Elite Grifters wearing an elephant suit.
Difficulty. We have seen repeated market collusion to keep out new vendors like this from standard internet infrastructure companies.
We have also seen the elites in the GOP bilking conservatives of their money. Which example is this? While I am sure one of their problems will be/was bringing on good technical talent (which skews left), all the reporting on them indicates that GloriFi is a scam.
Pence's Chief of Staff created this business. If you think he has any interest in actual services for conservatives, rather than skipping town with a bunch of investment money, I have a bridge to sell you.
Can you cite this company crowdfunding from voters? My guess is they would have some type of venture capitalist funding.
Most of these startups are behind ideological walls built into the market on the internet. I have hopes one of these vendors can get past all of those impediments, but we have seen far too much of the major market players colluding with banks and internet companies to stop these.
We are basically at the point of build your own internet.
> We are basically at the point of build your own internet.
you support Free Market, laissez-faire economics (Just vote with your dollars! Regulation is evil!!) & you're getting it good and hard.
Haha, this shitlib thinks Big Tech got as big as it did on free-market, laissez-faire economics.
go employ your No True Scotsman fallacy elsewhere you stormfront reject.
No, we’re not. Nothing about the tech industry is really ‘free market’.
Think of GloriFi as the BLM of online payment processors.
So they're skimming at least 50% off the top?
“Reason: “Build your own internet”. Laughs at those attempting to do so for being behind woke tech oligopolies.
Is it allowing CA-legal gun sales only?
FIFY
They can totally sponsor St. Kyle's new YouTube channel:
https://www.businessinsider.com/kenosha-shooter-kyle-rittenhouse-starts-youtube-channel-about-guns-2022-10
"Kenosha shooter Kyle Rittenhouse has started a YouTube channel that's all about guns..."
“St. Kyle”
Oh fuck off.
Don’t call Dee a lefty though. He’s one of those true libertarians that doesn’t believe in self-defense and property defense.
He’s an American hero. So of course you hate him.
Ebay is setting up their own payment processor. I'm surprised Western Union hasn't taking advantage of Paypal's stupid moves.
I love the trend of "reporting" on things that cannot be counted, like crimes.
Major cities, and a few states, no longer report some or all crimes, yet Reason can magically say that the number of crimes is not rising.
Amazing.
Soros funded DAs: We’re going to stop prosecuting all these crimes.
People: Guess I’m not going to stick my neck out reporting those crimes.
ENB: See, less crime!
My understanding is that Britain does not log a murder until they have a conviction. 9 bullet holes in his back, no suspects, no arrest, no conviction? A mystery!
America is just taking baby steps.
Pfbbt! It's not a real mystery until they pull the body from the river.
Nah. It starts being a real mystery when a Belgian and an elderly woman discuss the motives over tea and biscuits.
Oh, no! Not biscuits!
The Tale of Sir Robin with Subtitles (Brave Sir Robin)
https://youtu.be/jYFefppqEtE
And don't you dare blame the rhetoric for the rise on people shooting cops.
https://nypost.com/2022/10/14/police-union-rips-record-rise-in-cops-getting-shot/
Isn't Soros writing checks to Reason now?
Not that I know of.
Just buddies with the surviving Koch and it shows in the editorial direction.
Ya, there are daily smash/grabs going on that anyone can see on video, but democrat politicians and DA's have specifically said they wont charge them, so I guess "crime isnt happening".
The ol 'bury your head in the sand' approach to solving crime seems to be working well in LA and Chicago
How can it be a crime if you aren’t charged?
And I remember thinking that pickpocketing actually being straight up legal on Earth in Niven's Known Space universe was one of the craziest things he'd come up with about "the future", and it'll end up being the one thing from his books I actually end up seeing come true. :-/
Which you probably read about right here in the morning links:
https://reason.com/2022/10/06/did-murders-rise-in-2021-no-one-knows/
The blog post above cited two studies that do not depend on national FBI crime statistics.
The morning links aren’t journalism.
So she contradicted herself.
White Knight grade: F
That and most of us knew and talked about it before the roundup.
And without those same numbers people are asserting they are rising. Amazing.
Yet the data we do have suggests it's not.
Will somebody tell this to my catalytic converter which got sawed into and nearly stolen within a week of me buying a new SUV? Or will they claim that the SUV was attempting Sepuku?
Several cities did reduce police funding by up to 50% and layed of police while other police quit due to lack of officers and/or support Reason is literally full of shit these days
Straight propaganda
'Defunding the police' is the perfectly bureaucratic way to increase govt spending. R's will pimp that phrase for votes for years or decades. And whenever things get nasty, we will calm things down with a bipartisan solution that hugely increases government spending for all DeRp vote base.
Considering that the phrase was spoken by Democrats up and down the spectrum in 2020, you're just full of shit.
You R's are the ones who want to use it to increase spending - and as the article shows, D's never use it to decrease spending only to change who responds to different types of calls
D’s never use it to decrease spending only to change who responds to different types of calls
Ds want to divert the police budget for use supporting left wing political activists. Done at the levels they want this will cause crime to increase, which will then result in restoring the police budget. Unfortunately the new activists will also remain so the end result is a total increase.
Reason's insistence fewer police do not result in more crime is much like leftists insisting increases in minimum wage do not increase unemployment. Their "studies" consist of messy, small scale events so completely dwarfed by other effects it's impossible to sort any cause or effect. Yet they conclude from this mess that any connection is impossible even though it clearly does have an impact at scale.
Yeah, they only want to remake law and law enforcement to suit a progressive agenda. And, as Democrats, they really can't get themselves to defund or even less-fund any government group. Just make "policing" fit a woke equity agenda.
Bullshit you lying leftist. There were calls explicitly to eliminate police forces, then to reduce them then to move money to other response personnel. To say they never called to reduce funding is a lie, the politicians just couldn't spin the rapid rise in crime to be anything but a response to non-enforcement of the law.
"Several cities did reduce police funding by up to 50%"
Cite?
Why did you include "up to" in your claim?
Because it's a range, you sealioning piece of shit.
Lol, a cite? in the wild.
https://americanpoliceofficersalliance.com/cities-that-defunded-police/
many references are an easy google click away
Do you have a link from quora? Mike will listen then.
You linked to an article from December 2020 (with some updates in August 2021.
From July 2022: https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/minnesota/articles/2022-07-03/minneapolis-police-budget-expands-post-floyd-death
“ The Minneapolis Police Department’s budget has expanded despite calls to reduce funding for law enforcement in the wake of George Floyd’s death.”
ENB talked about New York City’s budget above: “And even in places where there have been some drops, the budgets are still massive. For instance, in New York City, the 2021–2022 budget was down to $5.4 billion from $5.6 billion in 2018–2019. This year's budget is still up from $5.2 billion in 2020–2021.”
I'm having trouble finding info on what has happened with Cook County, Illinois' police budget. Do you have that info?
Portland, OR:
https://twitter.com/_jlevinson/status/1581049058462158848?s=20&t=st7qE1PoDXjsJMGNN50rug
"Portland police budget 2019-20: $238 million
Portland police budget 2022-23: a record $249 million.
I wish someone would defund me."
Interesting breakdown of time frames.
When was the 2023 budget passed, I wonder?
wheres the 2020-2022 budget
cherry picking
I figured the most recent budget information is the most relevant, since that’s how “the story turned out” on supposed defunding.
If you need grab one particular year to make a case, you would be the cherry picker; the one grasping at straws.
Funny that I'm the only one coming up with any data in this conversation. This article says that activists asked for a $50 million cut to police budget in 2020-2021, but the cuts ended up being $15 million.
Oddly, the article doesn't mention what the total budget is. I'll try to find that elsewhere.
Looks like the 2019-2020 budget was $238.2 million:
https://www.portlandoregon.gov/cbo/article/763271
So, 15/238 = 6% budget cut. Nowhere near 50%.
Even the $50 million cut that the defenders wanted would have been 50/238 = 21%.
Please feel free to check my research on numbers and my math. Like I said, I'm the only one doing any factual work here.
It costs a lot of money for the leftist city government to run interference so they can protect antifa.
Austin, TX:
https://abcnews.go.com/US/defunding-claims-police-funding-increased-us-cities/story?id=91511971
"In Austin, Texas, leaders cut the police budget by about 30% in 2021, proposing to instead spend that money on programs like family violence prevention, mental health responders, and police oversight.
"But that lasted only one year. The Texas legislature voted to bar cities in the state from decreasing police budgets, so Austin boosted police spending by 50% in 2022."
“In Austin, Texas, leaders cut the police budget by about 30% in 2021“
So what the fuck are you actually arguing against at this point?
"The places that did this already realized it was a terrible idea and reversed course, therefore it never happened."
A desperate argument to save face on a weak claim.
Yes, that’s exactly what you did.
I'm going to stop there.
LA and NYC did not report crime to FBI database last year. Let that sink in
Safest places in the country.
Besides, the FBI is racist. Except when it goes after Trump.
Crime is obviously up. Everyone knows it. Everyone sees. More and more people are experiencing. it.
What are you gonna do, believe the JurNoLisTs or your own lying eyes?
Brandy says your eyes are lying.
It's bordering on journalistic malpractice (if there were such a thing).
Please do not forget that inflation is running at 8%.
So if you increase your police funding by 2%, you have actually spent 6% less than last year.
"Don't Believe the People Blaming Crime on Defunded Police"
Maybe they can make the full leftist transition to "Dont Believe Your Lying Eyes"
Note that people have said multiple time that "defund the police" is not about getting rid of the police. It's about the left wanting a red guard
Excellent point - if we want to have 2 police people in a car with their cameras and laptops working then we need more police. It's too dangerous for just one cop in a car since forever.
Pandemic? I thought all pregnancies now were due to Roe being overturned.
Truly A Handmaid’s Tale is upon us.
And reaching back into the past, and into states that still have free, unlimited drive-through abortions.
I dumped my life savings into wire coat hangers expecting a huge price surge. That didn't turn out like I anticipated.
You just have to wait until after the midterms.
Maybe there will be a nationally popular stage play for "Mommy Dearest" so you can recoup some of your investment.
Ahahahahahaha. Oh my god. That’s dark!
I understand there was an abortion bump too. I wonder why no mention of that?
"...and was most pronounced for first births and women under age 25, which suggests the pandemic led some women to start their families earlier."
That's what we're calling accidents now?
Well, since math became racist, who can count to 28?
Lots of female "essential workers" were stuck at home with their unemployable baby daddies during the shutdowns, so the baby daddies were having sex with them instead of with their children.
Student loan debt relief ranks low on the issues that young voters are concerned with...
We're spending money on it anyway.
Those upper-middle class 30-something votes will not buy themselves.
Those upper-middle class 30-somethings that spent 2020 living in dual fear of the orange man and the coof had to be bought. They would never have voted D, otherwise.
Don't forget that a substantial portion of these are professional journalists, which has the combination of high education requirements and very low pay.
Higher education ruined journalism. Not long ago, reporters were crusty blue collar types, and willing to rip into the establishment.
We will be again.
Only 8%? I'm astounded there are so FEW slackers trying to get the gov't to pay for their useless degrees.
I am time and time again astounded by the sad sacks they hold up as some poor starving wretch who is somehow completely overburdened by repaying their student loans. Some recent post article, they were championing a worker who, after 6 years of paying $100 a month on their student loans, had only paid it down from $27000 to $22000. WTF? $100 dollars a month is an unbearable burden? I gorram-tee you that said person spends more than that on fast food EVERY WEEK! I worked nights at Econo Lodge to pay my way through school--all these clowns who want their loans forgiven should have to waive their right to ever vote again before a penny gets spent on the cheating turds.
Hey, there are mid-terms coming up!
The tax dollar per vote return has to be terrible.
It's a demographic that would overwhelmingly vote D anyway. Forgiving some trade school debt might have been a better ROI.
The Democratic Party is willing to spend whatever it takes!
The tax dollars ain't their money so they don't care. If it buys just one vote...
Abortion pills are increasingly being smuggled across the U.S. border...
Initially read that as abortion bills. Can you imagine?
...activist suppliers funded largely by private donors secure pills for free as in-kind donations or from international pharmacies for as little as $1.50 a dose.
They really want to put a stop to that baby bump.
What? They aren’t free? WTF
WE DEMAND REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOM!
By not reproducing.
We are part of a seismic shift in the media economy that is all about writer and creator ownership and independence...
Exactly something a fascist would say.
Media without government support and oversight? Unpossible!
"Inside the identity crisis at The New York Times."
There is a tug of war going on there, between the side that wants to continue operating as a 99% govt propaganda outfit while keeping the fig leaf of them being an actual 'news source', and the other side that wants to lean in to basically being a full on opinion blog.
Id prefer they just admit they are the latter, which anyone with eyes/ears knows is the case
The NYT is absolute trash. It's for the midwit ,110 IQ max, "iM eDuCaTEd" crows.
https://twitter.com/nytopinion/status/1581459264995876864
Fucking Hispanics and their white supremacy.
Between the Hispanix and Asians, the world is so overtly oppressive it's hard to imagine. Being Black in such a racist place must be way harder than being white or "lite" as the Times now refers to it.
IT'S JUST LIKE TRAYVON!
Reads like parody. I laughed at first.
Herschel Walker embodies every negative stereotype Black Americans have fought against for decades.
In a community that has fought against stereotypes of violence, criminality, intellectual inferiority and sexual promiscuity, Walker is an embarrassment.
Walker's history of terrorizing women through violent threats and stalking is well-documented, as well as his shameful failure to recognize the multiple children he has fathered.
Embarrassment was likely something Herschel Walker’s family was trying to escape. If his son's statement is true, Walker was discouraged from running for office because of his sordid past. Sadly, foolish actions by Black political leaders not only bring shame on immediate family members but to an entire race.
The idea of being judged by the worst examples in your community is not a burden with which most Americans are familiar. As a political leader, Walker would be a representative of the Black community by default, whether he intends to represent the community or not and whether the Black community wants it or not.
USA Today
Opinion by Njeri Mathis Rutledge
Remember, according to conservatives any criticism of Walker is racist.
Are you excited to vote for Warnock and Abrams? It would be a shame if your state's corrupt establishment cheats Abrams out of the governorship for the second time in a few years.
#ElectionsAreOnlyLegitimateWhenDemocratsWin
Remember, according to
conservativesmedia any criticism ofWalkerObama is racist.You recognize that Republicans are no different than the retarded Obamabots who cried "Racist" whenever anyone criticized Obama's policies. Good for you. That's a step in the right direction. Now apply that same thought to those who shouted "TDS" at anyone who criticized The Donald. Then you might be getting somewhere.
Not what I said.
I'm sorry. I overestimated your intelligence again. I need to stop doing that.
It’s good you can admit your mistakes.
Are Democrats attacking his policies or him personally?
From where I sit, most Republicans (and pretty much everyone on this board, including you) attacked Obama’s policies and shrike and Tony, et. al. would call them racist.
Vs. shrike and Tony attacking people like him or Larry Elder personally for daring to be black and vote Republican.
You really do have WDS up the wahzoo. Now do Raphael Warnock's $7,000 per month housing stipend and the fact his is pastor of a church kicking people out of an apartment building they own for as little as $125 back rent.
Or is it just one way, pedoDem?
As a white progressive, Mr. Buttplug gets absolutely furious when Black bodies disobey his command to line up and vote Democrat.
Democrats: knowing what's best for black and brown people since 1828.
"Remember, according to conservatives any criticism of Walker is racist."
Just playing by the rules the left insists on
Pedo has been shitting on Walker long before the abortion allegations came out. He can't bear the notion of a black man thinking for himself. Pedo knows what's best for black people, after all.
So you’re a racist in addition to being a pedophile.
Buttplug makes sure to check all the boxes.
Intersectionality is the new Black.
<Remember, according to conservatives any criticism of Walker is racist.
Not according to conservatives, this is a leftist principle. Amusingly they only recognize their intellectual bankruptcy when the target isn't a leftist.
The mirror can be a troubling view.
Well we met our quota for abortion links today. But nothing about DeSantis?
That's OK, I have one: We’re up against the biggest and most dangerous threat to our democracy this November: Ron DeSantis.
Biggest. And. Most. Dangerous. Threat. To. Our. Democracy.
A few years ago I was *POSITIVE* nobody would ever be worse than Trump. But wouldn't you know it, the frontrunner for the 2024 nomination (since #TrumpDocuments will land Trump in prison) is, in fact, worse than Trump.
Remember what our benefactor Charles Koch wants us to do — tear down DeSantis and boost Liz Cheney. Let's return the GOP to its more billionaire-friendly early 2000s neocon version.
#LizCheney2024
Isn't that weird, how the Republican candidate is always Literally Hitler, but also somehow worse than the last guy as a True Threat to Democracy?
What an odd coincidence.
Mitt "binder full of women" Romney being one of the latest examples. They love that guy now!
They've taken a shine to Bush 2 and Cheney now.
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Now if it was "Local Six", Buttplug would be very, very interested.
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wrong sex too.
Are the UK sex girls local?
You had me at best girls and lost me at UK.
Nobody needs 32 kinds of teeth.
Or actual ankles.
Define "best in the UK"
A quick graph for shrike on inflation.
https://mobile.twitter.com/StephenMoore/status/1582058730140491777
But that's just the 10 cent increase in the price of spittin' tobaccy!
The comments are funny.
Oxford, Harvard, Johns Hopkins and other prestigious institutions found that COVID-19 booster mandates at universities result in net harms to the low-risk demographic served on campuses while providing little if any net benefit to the rest of society.
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On a hypothetical campus, about 22,000 to 30,000 previously uninfected 18- to 29-year-olds would have to be given a COVID booster to prevent one single hospitalization.
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Yet the chances of these young boosted individuals experiencing an adverse effect from the shot is considerably higher, according to the study.
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The scholars estimate 1,373 to 3,234 students would experience side effects that would temporarily interfere with their ability to engage in day-to-day activities, and 18 to 98 students would experience more serious adverse events, such as death, hospitalization, significant or persistent disability or life-threatening reactions.
https://www.thecollegefix.com/study-college-students-more-likely-to-be-injured-by-covid-booster-mandates-than-virus-itself/
If it saves just one obese 70 year old with a bad heart. For the children.
And the teachers' unions. Also electing Biden.
You leave Jeff out of this.
Haha, it’s funny because he admitted he’s fat.
Remember when the usual suspects were insisting that anyone who suggested the vaccine was not worth the risk were just evil science deniers? I do.
https://reason.com/2022/01/24/vaccine-mandate-dc-protest-civil-liberties/?comments=true#comment-9321341
Again, this is the reason to pin your national policy on morals, rather than science. Those people insisted up and down that the science supported their ambivalence towards mandates, and fought tooth and nail to make skeptics appear unreasonable.
And where are they today? Moved on, without an ounce of humility for how wrong they were when they demanded "right thinking" people ought to support their scientific truths that kept changing- Just mask up to stop the spread; just jab; just jab again; well, ok we aren't stopping the spread; but jab anyways to save a hospital bed; don't worry it's safe for everyone.
Oh and before they are in here denying it all, here is Mike making those same arguments even after it was clear that the Vaccines were not as effective as originally promised:
https://reason.com/2022/02/02/can-the-medical-innovations-used-to-fight-covid-19-finally-defeat-hiv/?comments=true#comment-9336124
"The plan to stop all these variants was to get most people vaccinated."
Note that elsewhere in that same comment thread, Mike was trying to insist that no one ever promised that the Vaccines were meant to stop Covid.
Their smug insistence that they were the rational people in the room is only surpassed by their smug gas-lighting as they assume they could step away from their bullshit without the smell following them.
Note that elsewhere in that same comment thread, Mike was trying to insist that no one ever promised that the Vaccines were meant to stop Covid.
Well, as the news has come out recently from the EU which Reason hasn't even discussed to the best of my knowledge, he's technically right. So any vaccine mandate was unadulterated horseshit.
I'm sure I am being misquoted. I would never claim that "no one ever promised that the vaccines were meant to stop COVID."
At this point, after 3+ years, someone has said just about everything conceivable about vaccines and COVID.
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The plan to stop all these variants was to get most people vaccinated. That plan didn’t work because partisan morons are making stupid personal medical decisions for political reasons.
Oh, did this statement not back the claim that if everyone got the vax there would be no variants? Wouldn’t that require the vaccine to stop covid?
Mike pretends he has who he has muted because of insults. That’s a lie. It’s because we own him.
Leftist have a hard time remembering what they write because their assertions are driven solely by what is necessary to win the debate of the moment. Since this is often the exact opposite between issues and times they will often contradict themselves.
The easiest way to keep things straight is to be honest and principled which naturally discriminated against the left. That's why one day he pretends he opposes mean-spiritedness and extremism and the next he claims Republicans believe it's ok to riot. Like pretty much all leftists he's for whatever carries the moment.
It might have been the plan. But if it was, it was stupid. It could never work. And since the beginning of the year, the vaccines haven’t matched the spike proteins in the ubiquitous Omicron variant.
Again, this is the reason to pin your national policy on morals, rather than science.
Reason's coverage of mandates suggested the science wasn't 142% clear that they were necessary.
Given their are people who believe mutilating and raping children are both moral, I'll pass on moral logic for national policy. What was used as "science" for COVID was not real science but modern Lysenkoism aimed at achieving totalitarian ends by any means necessary.
No, if you look at the people pushing trans nonsense, it is under the guise of The Science! (TM). They are insisting that they should be able to give kids hormones that permanently alter their reproductive development because some doctor with an agenda tortured the data enough to say it will lower suicides by n%.
The Freakonomics crowd did the same thing, with their ghoulish studies trying to say that abortion lowered crime by preventing the birth (aka murdering) millions of unwanted babies.
To these science jackals, if they can get the right study to show a "public benefit" they can lock you in your home, take your children and lobotomize them.
The myth of the omniscient authoritarian.
I've never heard of such a myth. Sounds like a conspiracy theory, like the myth that the various Mars explorers that we've launched are really manned by super-intelligent specially bred genetically engineered goldfish.
Authoritarian Josh Hawley wants to let people discharge student loans debt in exchange for colleges being partially responsible for loan defaults. Also wants colleges to provide earning information by major.
https://www.thecollegefix.com/bill-would-force-universities-to-repay-portion-of-student-loan-default/
I love it. In fact, I suspect I suggested that very thing in these comments. Never happen, of course.
Me too.
But I have been told that economic concepts like costs vs. benefits and earning a living are unfair and racist.
https://www.thecollegefix.com/professor-changes-preferred-pronouns-to-hilarious-handsome-homosexual/
Sane college professor! News at 11.
Funny, I didn't think Rip Taylor was alive, much less in a University. 🙂
He said "sane".
Get the federal government completely out of the higher education business.
Not partially, fully and the shirkers need to return their sheepskin.
Grassley says Congress has voluminous evidence from FBI whistleblowers showing the FBI has information of Joe being involved with Hunters businesses and meeting with hunters clients. Evidence often marked as disinformation despite being verified.
https://thefederalist.com/2022/10/17/grassley-to-fbi-we-know-you-have-impactful-voluminous-evidence-of-biden-family-corruption-so-come-clean/
Dangerous disinformation.
Good work, Grassley. You have information that has been in the public sphere for nearly two years.
Wow, two "Don't blame obvious consequence of bad policy on the bad policy" articles in one day. If this site still had editors, I'd say they were getting lazy.
People just aren’t cooperating with the policy .
Same day USSC overturns third circuit ruling forcing Pennsylvania to count ballots not properly filled out according to state law, election officer on Pennsylvania says they will still count ballots improperly filled out against state law.
https://thefederalist.com/2022/10/14/the-same-day-scotus-squashes-pas-illegal-ballots-secretary-of-state-tells-counties-to-break-the-law/
That sounds a bit insurrection-y
Maybe SCOTUS can send the US Marshalls to arrest the PA Sec State for Contempt of Supreme Court.
And then hold them without bail for two years, since that's what we do with insurrectionists...
Only if you support orange man.
But, OrangeManBad!!!!!!!!
How many flagpoles and/or fire extinguishers does the PA Sec of State have? That's a surprisingly relevant piece of information we're missing.
Has he recently purchased any assault bear spray?
What about zip ties?
Zip tags and flagpoles and bear spray, oh my!
I tried to give this a fair hearing. Honestly, I did. I made it as far as "this mythical crime wave". No. The crime wave is not "mythical". Regardless of whether you think "defund the police" or the particular flavors of criminal justice reform implemented are responsible or not, the surge in violent crime is obviously real. I'm not sure if Nolan-Brown simply included it for effect (in which case she's a piss poor writer) or if she was trying to gaslight the readers into not believing what they can obviously see. But, this article strikes me as just terribly dishonest.
Brown is just stupid and repeating the talking points she hears. She doesn't know anything. No one who does could make such a preposterous claim. Jesus, even the Democrats are walking back from pretending crime isn't a problem.
But how is she at sandwiches? Or BJs? Asking for Matt Iglesias.
He already knows.
It is really getting absurd. They tried doing this during the SF DA Recall- having the NYT, and DC/Dallas writers tell San Franciscans to ignore the evidence in front of their eyes.
For the record, ENB never once provides data to suggest that Crime is not increasing. She provides a link to a previous article that says it is difficult to record murders...and that's it. The rest of her links suggest that we cannot correlate police funding with crime rates. I'd believe that, though I'd say it is largely because (like most economic studies) there are too many confounding factors to make a judgement either way.
The rest of her links suggest that we cannot correlate police funding with crime rates. I’d believe that, though I’d say it is largely because (like most economic studies) there are too many confounding factors to make a judgement either way.
Seattle absolutely positively DID do a 17% defunding of its police, but #defund the police wasn't just a wonky game of accounting where they shifted some money around (which it was) it was a cultural movement where city leaders aggressively demonized their own employees, told them that they would be aggressively prosecuted for any perceived claim of police brutality, called all of them 'bastards' etc., which caused massive numbers of cops to simply leave the department and replacements have been nigh impossible to find.
Seattle literally (not figuratively, but literally) ran the black Sheriff out of town.
Combined with more than two years of progressive, soros-funded prosecutors letting nearly every criminal go alongside the city of Seattle turning the entire city into a safe injection site, crime has soared and that's WITH the shift in tabulation which essentially doesn't even count certain crimes as crimes... ON TOP of the fact that many residents no longer even call the police for certain property crimes because either no one shows up, or even if they do, nothing is done about it.
Libertarian Marxism. Prove me wrong.
Making something as easy to record as murders, hard to record, is clearly an effort by some higher-ups to hide the truth. It's hard to hide the bodies that they "don't know" about.
Cities and counties, too, have been raising police budgets. ABC News "examined the budgets of more than 100 cities and counties and found 83% are spending at least 2% more on police in 2022 than in 2019."
Yes, they are raising budgets now in response to the crime problem. That is not evidence that defunding the police isn't the cause of the crime problem. It is just the opposite, you stupid fucking twit.
raising budgets by 2% after cutting by up to 50% that there is some Biden math like he uses to say he has lowered the debt
Dumb twats cover a period that encompasses the action, the reactions and the ass covering responses and tries to say none of it exists. They also ignore the policy directives that do exactly the same thing regardless of funding levels and ignore why the refunding had to happen. In short they are all lying propagandists with not a brain cell among them.
Yeah, a low contemporaneous correlation between crime rates and police spending isn't going to tell you much. Logic would suggest a lag effect between policy changes and their consequences on behavior.
And I say this as someone who can concede the point that it doesn't look like there was that much of a drop in police spending. I think prosecution and bail decisions seem to have had more of a consequence than spending. But, you wouldn't know it from this article.
There has been a drop in police spending in a few big cities. The bigger issues are the ones you mention plus the general demoralizing of police forces such that police have stopped doing their jobs in a lot of cases for fear of being the next poster child the left destroys. All of that has combined to create a hell of a mess.
Note that they're using national statistics to "disprove" local trends. This is not a serious analysis. If they wanted to understand the impact they would compare the crime trend where policing is less to the trend where it wasn't. Instead they comingle the numbers even though they admit the less policing areas are so few the results will be swamped in a combined analysis. As I said, this isn't serious.
That is the same thing they do with immigration. They take the total crime rate of immigrants including legal and illegal and claim it shows that illegal immigrants are not more likely to commit crimes than natives. It is a cheap piece of sophistry.
That also ignores that most illegal immigrant crime is against other illegals who often don't report it because they're afraid of being deported. The reveal here is that Reasoners, as well as leftists, routinely cite potential weaknesses in crime stats when such weaknesses support their political positions, such as claims rape and sexual assault are underreported. In fact they will cite the weaknesses of illegal immigrant reporting as well but only in other contexts. So their choice not to reference these weaknesses and instead cite these numbers as conclusive in this case reveals they bend the numbers to suit their political preferences.
Of course we expect this from the left's propaganda organs, but Reason publicly rejects this practice even as it still engages in it.
I think their more regular gambit is the "comparability two-step". They'll cite studies that show that illegal immigrants are less likely to commit crime than natives with comparable incomes (because poor people commit more crimes). Then they'll skip the comparability part to take it to mean illegal immigrants commit less crime than natives, ignoring the fact that most illegal immigrants are in the relatively high-crime low income groups.
A 2% raise in spending is far below the rate of inflation that occurred during that time.
That does not constitute a real increase. Even if they hadn't slashed budgets prior, only increasing by 2% over that time would still constitute a massive spending cut.
But it is indicative that they slashed their budget and freaked out when they saw the resulting increase in crime so they tried to put it back. The fact is the analysis papers over the period in question in such a way as to make the results a lie.
Meh, I have tried to research this, and have been unable to find any good data either way. It is true that when you look at a lot of the data, you see that none of the actual "Defunding" happened, despite lots of rhetoric. But it is also true that rather than "Defund", some cities moved money from actual policing to other shit like "Community Outreach Officers".
Again, there is very little good data other than speeches from pundits reposted by pundits on both sides. I spent a couple hours a few months ago trying to figure out what EXACTLY happened to the LA police department budget, and it was nearly impossible.
But it doesn't matter. The real problem was not defunding. It was the rhetoric from the left that claimed if they got in power, they would not prosecute petty crimes and they would tolerate and excuse lawless behavior. And in city after city they got into power, and it isn't a shock that people took them at their word and engaged in behavior that they thought would be tolerated or excused.
It was the rhetoric and promises of accepting lawlessness that led to lawlessness, and focusing on budgets clouds from that basic fact.
you see that none of the actual “Defunding” happened,
It did. In Seattle they defunded the department by 17%, but put on the brakes when shit went sideways. Their initial goal was 50%.
And so it goes in 2022, with candidates—mostly conservatives, but also some Democrats trying to position themselves as centrists—insisting that 1) crime is rising, and 2) it's the fault of criminal justice reform policies. Both claims are highly suspect
Only to a writer at Reason or a typical Democrat.
Arresting fewer criminals and turning them loose without bail every time you do, has caused the crime rate to go up. That is just crazy talk I guess.
But the rate of prosecution has gone down!
Yep, just ask Kim Foxx, Cook County State's Attorney (yes, there are two x's there). She spouts off on abortion, but plays catch and release with the average garden variety gang member who just shot up a convenience store.
It's just a conspiracy theory
Have any evidence of crime rates having gone up?
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/investigations/st-louis-threatens-to-sue-hyundai-kia-over-theft-epidemic/63-ba297b2b-e09d-4087-a3ed-00960f7815b7
Thank you. That could be because of bail law changes. Some contradictory evidence:
https://news.stlpublicradio.org/show/st-louis-on-the-air/2022-04-14/st-louis-judges-deny-bond-entirely-as-cash-bail-usage-drops-report-finds
" Instead, the report found judges in the 22nd Circuit Court are increasingly ruling 'no bond allowed.' Judges opted to deny release for 57% of cases observed from June to December 2021."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/11/22/san-francisco-organized-looting/
Don't feed the moron.
Thank you. Could be caused by bail law changes.
Mr Cite strikes again.
Cite?
"What happened to the starter home? It's been squeezed out of existence in large part by government regulations and policies,"
You know who a big proponent of those rules is? Strong Towns, an NGO that Reason loves to publicize here. They don't want you to have starter homes either- because starter homes are inefficient and lead to yucky use of cars as the plebes travel back and forth. Instead, Strong Towns wants dense urban housing with glorious mixed retail where you walk from place to place- city streets banned from cars in favor of bikes and farmers markets.
https://reason.com/2022/06/23/californias-competitors/?comments=true#comment-9557853
You know, places where it’s easy to lock down everyone.
Nobody was technically “locked down” during the pandemic.
LOL
Fuck off. If a guy gets arrested for surfing by himself or if a salon owner is arrested for opening her business; we're in fucking lockdowns.
Again fuck off
Check the username more carefully. 😉
Problem is, most folks call him that anyway. 😉
the ironing of that name change is too thick for the real Mike
he almost got me with this one too
This is why people call you a dishonest shit. You find the most weasel like way to deny shit. Ignore vaccine passports or people who lost their jobs. As long as an officer wasn’t outside the door. Ignore the people in California arrested for things like paddle boarding during the pandemic. Or the cities who allowed limited time to go shopping only. It wasn’t a complete lockdoen right?
What a dishonest piece of shit.
Dammit. Got me. Was so good and accurate. Just like Mike and his no gender surgeries on minors.
CA arrested people at the beach by themselves. Like nobody around them at all.
Not sure how that is not locked down.
Jesus Christ, dude. No, no one in the US was really forcibly confined to their home, though many states claimed the power to do so. But you know what the fuck people mean when they say "lockdown".
Well played.
^ man this had some good traction, well played
Apparently a bunch of people are so fed up with OG Laursen's gaslighting they are ready to punch him in the face at a moment's notice
+1 Troll level up
Yeah, I've kind of thought that their recent campaign about restrictions for single family homes kind of smelled like day-old fish. These guys aren't champions of free markets in residential real estate. They're specifically trying to engineer high-density urbanism. And Reason's coverage seems to twist itself in more knots than a pretzel to evade this fact. A thoughtful article on how development can proceed without straining public infrastructure (I agree, it shouldn't be public; but that's the framework we have and it isn't going away soon) might actually be worth reading. I doubt they'll go into that.
California already requires all new developments to add infrastructure and/or pay for upgrades to exist systems otherwise subdivisions of any size do not get approved. thats why it can easily take ten years just to plan a new subdivision and thats why only big corporations make subdivisions anymore since it takes years of investment to get any pay back small time developers can't sit on land that long
"What happened to the starter home? It's been squeezed out of existence in large part by government regulations and policies, suggests Emily Badger in The New York Times."
Or maybe that's what happens when an increasing portion of a growing population wants to live in ever-more concentrated trendy areas.
But the Times (and Reason) will never admit to free market economics.
Don't worry, the progressive's crime policies will make cities unlivable again in no time.
There are still starter houses being built. It's just not on the island of Manhattan or San Francisco. Of course, Badger and ENB would know this if they went west of the Appalachians.
Are you talking about flyover country? Ugh.
My partners and I have been trying, but a lot of the city Planning and Zoning Boards are against any lot that’s smaller than 1/2 acre. We have one project that we’ve been trying to rezone for three fucking years.
Unless she's lying, ENB lives in Cincinnati, and ought to know better.
I am doubtful about what you are saying. I live in Wisconsin and the only houses I see going up near large urban areas are bigger than my current house which is in the $300K range. My wife and I both grew up in 3 bedroom ranches with one bathroom. I don't see any developers going that route today. Some of the problem may be regulations, but I think that there is an economy of scale involved and developer are just looking at big house as having the most profit.
Spoken like someone whose never been to a P&Z meeting to have their development shit canned by the board and local white hairs because “muh property values”.
'Don't blame migrants and "open borders" for fentanyl entering the country, writes Reason's Fiona Harrigan.'
Especially not migrants, since we need many, many more of them. Right, Fiona?
All of them, in fact. Did you know that there are like, 7 billion people on this planet who aren't in the US?
Well, if those migrants want to open up a small business selling fentanyl or perhaps a food truck with fentanyl flavored food, then that would be acceptable.
"Student loan debt relief ranks low on the issues that young voters are concerned with"
These must be alt-right MAGA students from redneck Christian colleges who deny worries about debt to spite Biden.
FBI Most Dangerous states - violent crime stats
5- Alaska
4- Tennessee
3- Alabama
2- Arkansas
1- Louisiana Violent crimes per 100,000 people, 2021: 564.0
> Total violent crimes, 2021: 26,078 (9th highest of 41 states)
> Murders per 100,000 people, 2021: 16.0 (the highest of 41 states)
> Total murders, 2021: 738 (5th highest of 41 states)
> Poverty rate: 19.6% (the highest of 41 states)
Ten Republican Senators doing nothing?
https://247wallst.com/special-report/2022/10/10/americas-most-dangerous-states-4/4/
247wallst.com huh? I'll add it to my list of Buttplug-approved sources. (Obviously Wikipedia is at the top.)
That's especially important since even Bloomberg.com is now what you refer to as "wingnut.com" — check out this anti-Biden disinformation.
Forecast for US Recession Within Year Hits 100% in Blow to Biden
Who do they think they're fooling? Don't they know rig count is up and the Biden economy is terrific?
#DefendBidenAtAllCosts
Nice try at disinformation. By city works a bit better.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-city-rankings/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-us
1. Detroit, MI - Democrat mayor
2. Memphis, TN - Democrat mayor
3. Birmingham, AL - Democrat mayor
4. Baltimore, MD - Democrat mayor
5. St. Louis, MO - Democrat mayor
6. Kansas City, MO - Democrat mayor
7. Cleveland, OH - Democrat mayor
8. Little Rock, AR - Democrat mayor
9. Milwaukee, WI - Democrat mayor
10. Stockton, CA - Republican mayor
9 out of 10 cities agree, Team Blue maintains more dangerous areas than Team Red.
Now let's look at the percentages of brown people. You know, automatic Democrats.
Stockton just grabbed a (probable) serial killer. Maybe they'll get off the list next year.
The latest FBI report excludes nine states due insufficient reporting: California, Florida, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, and Pennsylvania. Whether or not 2021 crime estimates for these states will eventually be released remains to be seen.
Please commence punching yourself in the head until instructed otherwise.
So besides being a racist and a pedophile, he’s also a liar?
He’s legitimately just the dumbest motherfucker to post here.
Tony coughs politely in the corner with mrtrueman.
Trueman is just a shot poster. Tony is a true believer, but neither hold a candle to the turds that shrike has dropped over the years. I’ve never seen anyone on any message board post so many links that outright disprove the person posting them.
Hey shit head, the crime in those states are all in big cities that are run by Democrats.
Just because you are stupid doesn't mean everyone else is and is going to believe the idiotic half truths and lies you spew.
These numbers are all reported to the FBI from local police departments and DAs who do not arrest people for crime anymore.
SF crime has gone DOWN.... on paper. But everyone knows this is a Boleshevik joke.
A white buddy of mine had to stop at night for gas in one of the skeezier parts of Montgomery, Alabama a few years ago. The black clerk saw him when he went in to buy snacks and told him, "Bro, you are you nuts? You need to get on the road, or your ass is going to get shot if you stay in this part of town for very long."
Have to give you credit.
You provided just as much evidence of these claims as the source you cited did.
Namely none whatsoever.
Arkansas would be much lower if the Clintons hadn't left that trail of bodies behind.
turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Fuck off and die, lefty shit pile.
I'm interested to see what happens to birth rates in the next year or so.
I’m more interested in getting involved with the process.
At least to get some practice in.
Don't Believe the People Blaming Crime on Defunded Police
Don't try to sway people with stupid facts. They don't need facts. They know what they feel, and nothing can change it. Remember folks, true libertarians are now law-and-order Republicans. Go Drug War!
Just what "facts" that say otherwise do you have there Tiger? Please go ahead and list them. It will be the first time you have ever cited to any facts on here and a real step forward for you. So, be my guest.
The article was full of them. If you're interested you can use the bar on the right to scroll up to the top, then read them for yourself. But you're not interested in facts. Just feelings.
No. the article is full of unsupported assertions and poorly reasoned arguments not facts. I will happily listen to any facts you have. But I can't make the argument for you. Make one for yourself for once.
translation: "If the facts don't support what I feel, then they're not real!"
So no facts? Blind trust from you since it agrees with your first impression? No need to look at anything else?
You guys are doing great at proving my point! Keep it up!
No. you are making a fool of yourself and being a tiresome douche.
This is another one of those cases of "I don't think certain people understand that *everyone* can see the full exchange that happened here." One person asked for some facts, the other decided to put words in their mouth by offering a "translation." Any outside observer can see which person is trolling and being unreasonable.
"I don't like those facts. Give me some other ones. Nope, I don't like those either. Get me some real facts that confirm what I feel!"
Wait, is douche still legal? I thought over-turning Roe outlawed douche.
Douches are still legal, and sarc is being a rather pedantic one.
I'm being pedantic by focusing on the difference between thinking and feeling? I think it's an important distinction. You can't reason someone out of a stance they arrived at by emotion. You can't convince an Obamabot that someone can dislike his policies for any reason other than racism. The only possible explanation for criticism of Obama is racism. Same thing goes with the former president, just substitute "Trump" for "Obama" and "TDS" for "racism." Or the "stolen" election. Or this rise in crime. It's all feelings.
Rational thought will be treated with hostility.
Here are some facts for Sarc to ignore.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/red-vs-blue-as-dems-deny-defunding-the-police-major-cities-police-forces-are-at-record-lows
No, the facts listed in the article range from assertions to irrelevancies. The only fact given in the article is that police budgets are increasing now. That doesn't disprove the point that their being cut in 2020 is what caused the rise in crime.
If you have any kind of reasoned defense of the article, make it. Otherwise, you are just making a fool of yourself.
You're screaming "La la la la I can't hear you la la la" with your fingers in your ears, and I'm the one making a fool out of myself. Sure dude. Whatever you say.
No I am explaining why the article's argument is insufficient. You are the one screaming "I can't hear you". Again, if you have a defense of the article, make it.
You are saying the article is wrong because it goes against your confirmation biases. And I'm not fool enough to take up your challenge because it is an impossible task. That's my entire point. Just as there is no possible way in the world to convince you that the election wasn't stolen by evil Democrats, there is no possible way in the world to convince you that the rise in crime was not directly caused by evil Democrats. Facts will not change what you feel.
No. I am saying it is wrong because increasing police funding now says nothing one way or another about the effects of cutting police funding in the past has had on the current crime rate. The claim is that we cut police funding in 2020 and that caused the crime rate to go up. ENB's response to that is "but police budgets are increasing now". So what? That doesn't disprove the point.
I don't know how to make it any simpler for you. If you have a sensible thing to say about that, say it. Otherwise stop wasting my time.
There are a ton of things that happened in 2020 that contributed to crime going up. To blame it all on defunding the police is simplistic, partisan thinking.
Edit: Did I say “thinking?” I meant feelz. Mostly hatred. Lots and lots of hatred. It oozes from your posts like pus from a lanced boil.
There are a ton of things that happened in 2020 that contributed to crime going up. To blame it all on defunding the police is simplistic, partisan thinking.
There were lots of things, cashless bail, prosecutors deciding to stop prosecuting crimes in multiple big cities, and police departments being demoralized. It wasn't all just defund the police. No one is claiming that.
As far as it being partisan, all of those things were supported by Democrats and fought by Republicans. So, Democrats are responsible for the effects of the policies they support. That is how it works.
How embarrassing for sarc.
You know everyone (except maybe White Mike) can read this entire exchange, right sarc?
"How embarrassing for sarc."
That pile of lefty shit is not intelligent enough to experience embarrassment.
Exactly what my follow up was. Major cities cut budgets for 2 years and increased budgets only after the city populations got ready to vote them out. They also put into the budget various leftist oversight groups as part of this increased cost.
The blog post above cited two studies.
Now, you can criticize the cited studies if you like, but it is lying to say that the blog post did not support its assertions.
Briggs was perfectly clear om where his disagreements were and I posted a look at the number of cops normalized for population.
Do you wish to discuss?
"Facts? We ain't got no facts! We don't need no facts. I don't have to show you any stinkin' facts!"
So what your saying Sarc is that if we cut police budgets more, we won't get a rise in crime?
Well, with the exception that it should be A-OK for Republicans to riot without consequences.
What Republicans have rioted without consequences?
it should be A-OK for Republicans to riot without consequences.
Note the discrepancy in Laursen's comments. When addressing a leftist stupidity his only concern is limiting or minimizing it to the greatest extent possible. But when addressing the right that principle completely disappears and he instead maximizes it even beyond what is supportable.
But don't you dare recognize this, he's not on Team Blue!
Except they are for the insanely mild riot compared to, say, 5/29/20.
Your honor, people of the jury, my client pleads being part of a crime that wasn’t as bad as this other crime that happened. “If it’s not as bad as it, you must acquit!”
Sitting in prison for two years without bail or being charged, to ultimately be convicted of “parading” is not what I would describe as “without consequences”.
Now, if we’d like to turn our attention to two years of rioting and killing by Antifa/BLM…
How about justice for the cop who murdered the woman?
Whadabout!
Absolutely tribal answer.
Fucking pathetic.
Cite?
Three weeks baby! Just three more weeks until Park Slope Welchie Boy, Goth Fonzie Woppo, Mingo-Mango-Mongo, Pete MacAdoodle Suderweigel, Lizzie the Lezzie, and all of the rest of the fugazi libertarians of Reason are going to be sobbing hysterically like the little bitches that they are when their beloved democrats get their faces smashed in.
Like November 2016 all over again.
I dunno. If the Republicans had kept their anti-abortion boner under their hats until the midterms hit, I'd say it was a lock, but they did the one thing that kicks the hornet's nest for the Ds every time. I suppose we'll see.
Abortion just doesn't seem to move the needle much except in a few small areas, like Chicago itself. Of course, most Chicago residents would vote for Adolf Hitler if he had a "D" after his name.
Abortion isn’t even top 20 in voter concerns.
And the attacks are the same as prior to the ruling. It is democrats now refusing to articulate their stance refusing to say where the line is. Most of the GOP is saying 15 weeks which aligns with the majority of voters.
Most of the GOP is saying 15 weeks which aligns with the majority of voters.
And would still put us beyond the outer limit of most Western countries.
No one voting on abortion changed which party they support in the last two decades.
Which one they support no, but whether they actually get off the couch and go vote? Voter motivation is clearly an issue since not everyone votes in every election. My point is that some people who might have stayed home might feel compelled to actually vote now.
Doubtful. Anyone who cares that much about abortion is already a hardcore Dem partisan.
"...Land costs have risen steeply in booming parts of the country..."
Yeah, those Malibu lots are tough on a budget.
I demand a starter house in Malibu. Cuz equity.
Exactly.
It's a tale as old as time that politicians benefit by whipping up crime panic and accusing opponents of being soft on the issue.
Yeah accept it's actually true here.
The dem opponents actually ARE soft on crime. They want to close down the police departments (and in some cases nearly have! see Minneapolis). They want to let violent criminals loose onto the streets to terrorize citizens and sic the gendarmes after the law abiding citizens who defend themselves! (See bodega man in NYC).
It's classic alright, classic Bolshevik playbook and the only complaint journoshitlibs have is about the reaction to it.
When you’re a Bolshie or a sympathizer, every nail looks like it needs a hammer. And a sickle.
Ba dum cha
Abortion pills are increasingly being smuggled across the U.S. border, reports The Washington Post.
this is so obviously a fever dream of the Handmaid's Tail cosplayers that I cant believe this was taken seriously by anyone.
Do the smugglers have calves like cantaloupes?
Handmaid's Tail .. damn that is the best typo I ever made.
Have you seen the actress that plays the handmaid? I’ll pass on that tail.
AFAICT, Chipper is one fatty away from outing himself as one of John's socks.
>>Have you seen the actress that plays the handmaid?
have literally managed to not.
This is outrageous. A 72-year-old U.S. citizen was sentenced to 16 years in prison and subject to torture in *Saudi Arabia* for years-old tweets he posted while in the United States.
This is america in five years.
Will they start with the Reason commenter list?
We are not important enough. I have no doubt reason will happily turn our names over the government when they get around to finding us.
Which Reasonista will be the first to march in a brown uniform?
Eric "I reluctantly cast my vote for Biden" Boehm?
Was it Sullum that said he wore a mask because he didn’t want his neighbors to think he’s republican?
No, that was Suder-man.
Then that’s my answer.
Peter "I wear the arm band because I don't want people to think I'm a Republican" Suderman.
• GloriFi, billed as a conservative alternative to the likes of PayPal and traditional banks, is off to a rocky start.
You can almost sense the glee coming through the screen.
Yesterday I went out to eat and someone had FOX News blaring on the tv. I almost choked when I saw a commercial for educational material for parents to use at home to teach their children about all the great accomplishments of President Trump.
I wonder how many people in these comments bought it.
ZING!!! Oh man, you burned us again!
Do you? Do you really wonder that?
How did we all know every one of sarc's comments would be attacks on other commenters rather than addressing "ideas!"?
Complete shock!
Ugh! All you culture warriors and President worshippers, leave kids out of it!
And I feel the same way about all the liberal parents I knew who bought their kids similar "Obama is wonderful" books.
And I feel the same way about all the liberal parents I knew who bought their kids similar “Obama is wonderful” books.
If this were true, wouldn't he have said something to them about it at the time? Why does he only tell the right when he disagrees with the left? Why does he only do so years later?
It's because he doesn't care when they do it, he only claims this now so his bias against the right is hidden as much as possible.
Well, we know the Reason writers bought their kids all those Kamala Harris inspirational children's books.
They have tvs at the dumpsters?
"I almost choked when I saw a commercial for educational material for parents to use at home to teach their children about all the great accomplishments of President Trump."
And then everyone clapped.
Just reported in WSJ: "EU Puts Forth Emergency Cap on Gas Prices"
Now THAT will sure boost supply.
I can see these buffoons now, in a committee, discussing plan.
"Ze Energee Prices ah Very high!!!"
"Vait! Vat if ve just... make a law that says ze prices must be low?!?!"
"Great! Let's do that! We have saved Europe!"
Germans ttbo* when Trump warned them about Russian energy supplies, now they'll have to stbo**. Must be a German word for that.
* tittered their bottoms off
** shivered their bottoms off.
Fuel crisis solved. Well done, EU.
Yeah, that'll help...
create fuel lines and even/odd filling days. Welcome back to 1973.
But aren't high gas prices what they want to reduce consumption?
China just cut off exports to the EU for LNG. Lol.
Patsies of the world rejoice!! Today is Lee Harvey Oswald's birthday.
JFK hardest hit.
sorry.
So brutal
lolz ouch
Mind blown.
+2
So there was a second shooter?
Ha ha....nice
Grassy knoll!
Fuck Joe Biden.
Google, how many days to midterm elections?
Google says, "20 days, but my programmers would really prefer it if you stopped asking."
Park Slope Welchie Boy, Goth Fonzie Woppo,
I don't think those nicknames will ever not be funny
>>whipping up crime panic
over 25 years when (D) runs Casa Blanca cars on my residential street get hit. other times, not so much. certain there's no correlation.
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Yes, "defund the police" became a popular rallying cry in the summer of 2020, as people all over the country took to the streets to protest police brutality. And, yes, it can still be heard as a refrain in some activist circles. But even as some mainstream politicians briefly flirted with this rhetoric, it's never been a serious policy proposal, nor one that many (if any) leaders—local or national—have acted upon.
Horse... shit.
Here's from one of the most progressive newspapers and one of the most progressive columnist on that newspaper:
The City Council initially cut the police budget by about 17%, never reaching the 50% goal. But the agency has been in a tailspin ever since.
Sure, ENB, Jackson Tennessee's police budget is up, so that puts the lie to the claim.
And it wasn't just defunding the police, it was the entire culture surrounding the #defund movement that has objectively caused a rise in crime. Quit taking averages from across the country and applying it to the specific zones that not only defunded, but de-emphasized.
And:
I have it on the best authority this isn't actually happening.
95% increase in shots fired and a 171% increase in people being shot
Good shooting.
A lot of us used lockdowns to focus on improving our skills. I know I went shooting often enough during that time, good to see criminals also enjoy getting out into nature and practicing.
An increase in accuracy is cause for celebration. Even on the part of the criminals, it implies thug-on-thug violence will affect fewer bystanders.
Keep practicing, America!
From my own hometown, from KDVR, January 24, 2022:
“DENVER (KDVR) — Previous Denver metro crime trends are continuing into the new year. After a record year for violent crime in 2021 in which Aurora was a leader in crime rates, certain areas of the city continue to be the highest crime areas.
So far the Denver metro has experienced 198 aggravated assaults and two murders in 2022, including four shootings over the weekend that sent five people to the hospital. Each of these attacks occurred in Aurora and Green Valley Ranch.
4 shootings on east side of Denver leave 5 hurt In 2022, aggravated assaults such as these shootings are happening mostly east of Denver, according to a Data Desk analysis of crime information provided by LexisNexis.”
Huh, I wonder why the usual suspects are claiming this is all a mirage. Aurora in particular went in to a tailspin because of the Elijah McClain incident. What’s left out of that particular tragedy was the fact that north Aurora is, and has been, an absolute shithole for decades, going back to the California gang infiltrations in the late 80s. It only settled down in the late 90s-2000s because a lot of those assholes either ended up in jail, were killed in Blood/Crip turf wars, or were genocided by incoming Hispanic cartel members during the mass immigration wave starting in 2000. Go there now and it looks like a third-world country.
Go there now and it looks like a third-world country.
I'd have to see that to believe that. Seattle and San Francisco are the platonic ideals of third-world-country-looking-American cities.
Legalizing pot was an absolute disaster for the Front Range. The COVID effects and Floyd riots were bad enough, but legalizing pot made Denver a magnet for a whole bunch of drug-addicted bums.
"But even as some mainstream politicians briefly flirted with this rhetoric, it’s never been a serious policy proposal, nor one that many (if any) leaders—local or national—have acted upon."
My response: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9OZMBuVL5U
"Sure, ENB, Jackson Tennessee’s police budget is up, so that puts the lie to the claim."
ENB acknowledged that there were cities that cut police budget: "Only 8 places cut funding to law enforcement by more than 2 percent."
Did you investigate why she used dollars instead of number of officers?
Well, I'm coming up there for Thanksgiving. Hopefully I don't get murdered by a hobo when taking the train from Seatac to the ferry at Pioneer Square. I presume once I make it to Bainbridge I'm safe.
There are no ferries at Pioneer square, so be very careful while you wander around aimlessly looking at your tourist guide with your flowerdy Hawaiian shirt on and your 35mm camera around your neck. You'll look like an easy mark.
Likely your ferry will run at least 4 hours late. There is a mysterious “crew shortage” ever since governor climate change fired the unvaxed ferry workers.
We are all a lot safer though, so there’s that….
Has anyone noticed that the same side that wants to defund thevpolice and did defund the police in certain areas also advocate for stricter gun control laws?
Yes. It is called Team Blue.
Baby bump seems to be continuing.
Eh, don't worry about it, ENB. We'll kill the next ones.
Clump of cells bump
Bump of cells.
"Well, I was questioned by Judge-------[Johnston]. However, I protested at that time that I was not allowed legal representation during that very short and sweet hearing. I really don't know what the situation is about. Nobody has told me anything except that I am accused of, of, murdering a policeman. - Lee Harvey Oswald
“I said, ‘Lee, if anybody shoots at you, I hope they’re as good a shot as you are,’ I meant that they would hit him and not me.
“And he said, ‘Nobody’s gonna shoot at me.’ “
"Don't Believe the People Blaming Crime on Defunded Police"
OK, but how about blaming it on a DA who won't prosecute shop lifting under a $1K limit?
Or letting armed night club owners into arraignment hearings and prisoner transfers
"I'm just a patsy" -Lee Harvey Oswald
An early example of questioning his gender?
"I saw that pistol in his hand and knew what was going to happen," - James Leavelle
Although fertility rates declined in 2020, these declines appear to reflect reductions in travel to the U.S. Childbearing in the U.S. among foreign-born mothers declined immediately after lockdowns began—nine months too soon to reflect the pandemic's effects on conceptions.
I was assured that anchor babies weren't a thing.
This analysis involves a major sleight-of-hand, because of the selected end date. We have 2022 funding numbers, since that's the input at the beginning of the year, but we don't have 2022 crime numbers, since those are the output that come after the year is completed. If we're looking for a correlation between police funding and crime stats, then, we have to look at 2021 funding, since what we have is 2021 crime stats.
For example, Minneapolis was a major example of the Defund the Police movement, with 2021 seeing a 12% nominal cut from 2019 budgets. But looking at the 2019-to-2022 numbers hides that, because Minneapolis restored funding this year under intense local political pressure.
Similarly, by the 2019-to-2022 numbers, Austin's budget went up, $417.3 million to $443.1 million. But that covers up the fact that it cut funding a huge 30% from 2019 levels, down to $292.9 million, in 2021.
(And that's all in nominal terms, anyway. Even if the correct baseline was ABC's 2019-to-2022, the combined inflation rate for 2019, 2020, and 2021 worked out to 7.9%, so "at least 2% more" lumps in a whole bunch of police departments that had, in real terms, a budget cut.)
This analysis involves a major sleight-of-hand,
The analysis is shot through with all sorts of shenanigans to the point that it's absolute garbage obviously being sold as a narrative.
Cherry picking: 109 "major big" "areas" - Elgin? Naperville? Gilbert? Chandler? Chesapeake? Fort Wayne? Wake County? Suffolk County? None of that objective 'all precincts above a given population' or 'largest precinct in every state' bullshit. We're only picking the largest and ripest cherries for this basket!
Acontextual: OMG! Elgin increased the policing budget by the same amount 2021-2022 as they did 2019-2020! And as a smaller portion of the budget overall! And, as far as the story goes, because #defundthepolice! Totally not because they wouldn't have to spend more elsewhere in 2019-2020.
Relativist fallacy: Elgin spent $2M/4% more, but Seattle spent $13M/2% less. Half of the precincts spent *more* money! No defunding!
As I said, this whole thing is bordering on journalistic malpractice.
Averaging averages of average areas over an average time and taking the average output and... voila! There was no police budget cut or crime increase across these averaged out areas!
And Elgin and Naperville increased their funding in response to the shitshow they saw in Chicago during the summer of 2020.
Gilbert and Chandler, AZ, are very likely the same - conservative cities making sure that the crime goes elsewhere.
"For example, Minneapolis was a major example of the Defund the Police movement, with 2021 seeing a 12% nominal cut from 2019 budgets. But looking at the 2019-to-2022 numbers hides that, because Minneapolis restored funding this year under intense local political pressure."
https://reason.com/2022/10/18/dont-believe-the-people-blaming-crime-on-defunded-police/?comments=true#comment-9751985
So, is the problem that you were too stupid to understand my post, or that you're a lying hack hoping other people are too stupid to understand it? That the police in Minneapolis were re-funded in 2022 does not change the fact that they were defunded in 2021.
It kinda does.
And thanks for yet another ad hominem!
The issue is not funding, it’s that police can’t do their jobs and quit. Then criminals realized they could commit crimes without consequences. So now crime is way up (fuck Elizabeth ‘I don’t know dick and her opinions, facts are facts) and it is very difficult to put the cat back in the bag. Funding is no longer a problem, the criminals are rich.
The issue is not funding, it’s that police can’t do their jobs and quit. Then criminals realized they could commit crimes without consequences. So now crime is way up (fuck Elizabeth ‘I don’t know dick’ and her opinions, facts are facts) and it is very difficult to put the cat back in the bag. Funding is no longer a problem, the criminals are rich.
It also fails to take into account that defund police started in 2020!
Yes and no. The defunding of police agencies and the crime wave are results of the same cause -- which is Soros-funded prosecutors elected on Reason's own misguided reform platform, who hold a set of priorities that nobody in that job has any business holding, and that is to ignore violent crime by blacks (treating it as a civil right) while persecuting whites who defend themselves against it. The Kyle Rittenhouse persecution (pun intended) is an example of one of these rogue prosecutors showing his real priorities.
The people need to exercise the Second Amendment the way Kyle did as often as possible when this happens. The only thing Kyle did wrong was to miss Jump Kick Man.
Off topic - Danchenko, not guilty on all counts. At least Durham brought more FBI bullshittery to light during the trial.
Here's how a libertarian publication writes on this issue:
So I guess reason is in the "it's not happening phase" of the three step process.
How long until we reach "it's good that it's happening"?
I remember when libertarians hated the pigs.
Aww, you put a sentence together. Libertarians don't hate the police and never have. They want accountably for the police. They don't want them militarized. Show me a post were they said get rid of the police or hate them.
+1000
Yes, my mom still lives outside Philly and it's horrible. The article left off some city congress woman got robbed in Philly and still wanted to defund the police.
Have to love Reason's hate the Police. They are right crimes aren't up. I mean when it isn't a crime in CA to steal under 1000 dollars they are right. Humm surprisingly Starbucks and others are closing their stores in San Fran.
Green Goblin gang in NY City robbing people in plain site. All good. DAs let them go.
Portland? Chicago gun fire?
Reason is right in a way - the crimes are only up in big cities compared to everywhere. Yes, other areas have increased police spending.
You be you Reason. You be you.
So, you want partisan rants from Reason. Got it.
Substack thrives because the incentives are aligned correctly. Instead of writing for the advertisers or the benefactors who pay the bills, writers write for the readers, who pay them directly.
Weird, huh?
The police budget went up because national rise in crime caused rhetoric to crash into reality. And few places that did cut police budget faced predictable consequences.
When cops hold back, crimes may go up. This isn't a difficult concept. The notion that "but crime also doesn't go down simply because there are more cops on the street" is also true but irrelevant to this discussion. If no one enforces the law, it's logical for crime to go up.
My family was carjacked twice (catalytic converter theft) during the pandemic. All my cousins in SF had their cars broken into. I thought the story about people in SF intentionally leaving their cars unlocked was limited to some rich people or neighborhood, but apparently that is REAL in that city. SF recalled one of the prog prosecutors the defund crowd helped put into power.
The takeaway isn't "haha anti defund crowd was wrong". It's that most of the country was sane enough to stop the defund crowd from implementing their fatal vision of police. Something like 20% increase in police budget is negligible in a time of inflation, and won't be enough to address recruitment shortages.
So now to be libertarian is to be pro-cop too?
Let me guess, still no tax hikes on zillionaires.
Well, as you can see on several comments above, pro-cop as long as it’s not Capitol Police. When it comes to those bastards, it’s A-OK with them that a former POTUS truths that they are all a bunch of trigger-happy whiners.
Yes, budgets are up, right now before the mid-terms. But what about the last two years? Okay the 2023 budget now funds police, but what about the last 4 years? You now when crime was left to run wild on the west coast in an effort to defeat Trump?
Many were down. Also there is now shortage of people willing to be police. They put their life and career on the line and if a mistake gets made they go to prison.
And let’s not forget the radical leftist DA’s. Refusing to charge felony crimes, Eliminating bail. Under charging criminals. Also places like California where you can steal by shoplifting or smash and grab crimes with impunity.
Now after Reason diatribe on crime, they offer no explanation , by their new laws. Yes you can shoplift, be caught and never charged by law!why crime is up. Why? Because they would have to talk about 2019-2020-2021 and 2022, which wouldn’t fit their false narrative.
Why Shoplifting Is Now De Facto Legal In California
Why is shoplifting so rampant? Because state law holds that stealing merchandise worth $950 or less is just a misdemeanor, which means that law enforcement probably won’t bother to investigate, and if they do, prosecutors will let it go.
Wow, you are all over the place.
The $950 or less law very likely led to an increase in shoplifting, but you’ve strayed way off the topic, which was police budgets.
"Reality" is not what causes criminal behavior. It is the perception of reality that makes criminals believe that the risk is worth the reward so if a person thinks that robbing that person, breaking into that house, stealing that car, torching that building... if the criminal believes they will not (or likely not) get caught they will commit the crime. Reality has no bearing if the person does not consider it.
Huh? If a criminal perceives that they will not (or likely not) get caught and then they don't get caught, they have accurately judged reality.
" ... 2% more on police in 2022 than in 2019. "
Seriously?! a 2% increase over 3 years! That's the justification used to say that police haven't been defunded?
In this inflationary environment - that's at least a 10% reduction!!
Not to mention the foolish no-bond release of violent criminals - it's absolutely obvious why crime is up significantly in major cities across the country!
Is ENB being deliberately obtuse by only focusing on only the dollar amounts re: defunding the police?
The Defund the Police movement had another, critical, intentional goal: to demoralize and demonize the police and deprive them of public support. That alone caused many police to quit, retire early, or transfer to more supportive departments.
The worst part is that the demoralization of the police resulted in what police call "de-policing, selective disengagement, or tactical detachment," in other words, looking the other way or showing up too late when crimes happen. As small-l libertarians we should be outraged because they are still taking taxpayer money but aren't delivering basic policing that we want like catching murderers, robbers, or rapists. (If you don't want the police to do this, you are an anarchist, and that is not said in the perjorative sense.)
The Democrats can throw more money at the police but it won't solve the demoralization problem. That might never be solved, but if it is, it will take decades.