Brickbat: Keeping a Close Eye on Canadians

The Canadian government has proposed creating a "digital safety commissioner" who would enforce new laws aimed at keeping child pornography, revenge porn, hate speech, incitements to violence, and terrorist content off the web. Social media and streaming sites that don't remove material flagged by users as violating these rules within 24 hours could face fines of up to $10 million ($8 million U.S.) or 3 percent of a platform's gross global revenue, whichever is higher. Further refusal to comply with the law could result in a fine of up to $25 million ($20 million U.S.) or 5 percent of gross global revenue. And in extreme cases, the government could block access to the site in Canada.
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Let's see how quickly Canadians can't access Reason.com any more!
You do engage in a whole lot of hate speech.
I do hate it how left-wing and right-wing extremists alike, think that they are ALWAYS correct, and are ALWAYS my moral-ethical-spiritual superiors, and are fully entitled to use Government Almighty to make me do what THEY want me to do!
"I do hate it how left-wing and right-wing extremists alike, think that they are ALWAYS correct"
Probably because you are always wrong. You're easily one of the dumbest trolls to ever infest the place.
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March.21.2021 at 5:06 pm
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Legally, there is no such concept as "hate speech".
Hate Speech only exists in the minds of The Woke as a way to suppress the views of others.
Whoosh!
He’s a fascist so it is expected.
And nothing of value was lost.
Reason exists to spread pro-corporate anti-democracy propaganda.
You do know that don't you?
Imagine all the MPs and executive branch Twitter and Facebook accounts blocked for a week. They’d back down quickly.
WTF is hate speech to Canadians, anyway? Saying hello too loudly?
Not using the person's preferred pronouns for one. Objecting to that is what get Jordan Peterson notoriety outside of academic circles.
Saw a British show with him on it. Funny that the show insisted on having an acknowledged progressive feminist on it too. Anyhow, the hostess was adamant Peterson was “anti-trans” because she read the newspapers about that. Peterson pointed out that his issue was compelled speech and that in his practice, with trans patients, he has used their preferred pronouns.
His interview with Cathy Newman is hilarious. I’ve called people her name here before in reference to it.
“So what you’re saying is…”
“No.”
Well you see. Unlike U.S. citizens Canadians generally aren't willfully ignorant, racist fools.
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And they will call the enforcement department the Digital Safety Police or "Digsapo" for short.
Remember, under Canadian hate speech law, a true statement can be "hate speech.
The legislation would target five categories of harmful content:
terrorist content;
content that incites violence;
hate speech;
non-consensual sharing of intimate images; and
child sexual exploitation content.
While all of the definitions would draw upon existing law, including current offences and definitions in the Criminal Code, they would be modified in order to tailor them to a regulatory – as opposed to criminal – context.
These categories were selected because they are the most egregious kinds of harmful content. The Government recognizes that there are other online harms that could also be examined and possibly addressed through future programming activities or legislative action.
Because "content that incites violence" and "hate speech" aren't vague enough, they also have to include a promise to go after "other online harms" in "future programming activities or legislative action". And I'm sure this is going to be enforced fairly and impartially, the same way "hate crime" enhancements are applied fairly and impartially every time a black man commits a crime against a white man as well as every time a white man commits a crime against a black man.
And in extreme cases, the government could block access to the site in Canada.
Sure, I'll take the $25 million hit, but blocking access to my site? That's an escalation.
the government could block access to the site in Canada
And then they'll have to go after the VPNs, and the people who use TOR... and what if the Guardian or Fox is spreading true but hateful misiNforMAtioN about Canadian politicians? Better block that.
Agenda 2031 isn't just going to resolve itself.
"Agenda 2031 isn’t just going to resolve itself."
What happened to Agenda 2021? Agenda 2011? Agenda 2000? Agenda 1990?
You know, all the other fake agenda's the Kook right have been whining about for decades.
Jared’s Buttplug won’t be moving to Canada.
Pretty sure he’s not allowed to cross state lines. How he’s still allowed to access the internet is beyond me.
I’m no Karen but crimes against children should be reported. Not playing in the front yard without two helmets and three covid masks but horrific crimes like that. Reason should have done more than just ban the original account. Crap, they gave up the real names of the commenters during WoodchipperGate and that was when they were more libertarian than now.
"Crap, they gave up the real names of the commenters during WoodchipperGate..."
Chumpy Chump is full of shit on this one!
https://reason.com/2015/06/25/how-the-feds-asked-me-to-rat-out-comment/
Citation please, liar! From OTHER than your tinfoil hat!
They gave up the registration information and IP addresses after giving the commenters a chance to squash the subpoenas.
They didn’t have to provide that courtesy, especially knowing that Bharara was all pissy about it and it could cost Reason additional attorney fees.
But what happened with SBP? I must’ve missed it since I had him muted.
"They gave up the registration information and IP addresses ..."
Citation please! I have never read that anywhere (other than random crap from people as "reliable" as bums living under the bridge, like Chumpy Chump for example).
Follow your own links and read the subpoena and how Reason complied.
Once a child declares themselves as an adult - as per Libertarian law - there will be no child molestation and no crime for there is no child.
"I’m no Karen but crimes against children should be reported." - ChumblyWumbly
"Once a child declares themselves as an adult – as per Libertarian law" Cite?
Going to comment sbp2 is hardest hit. You beat me to it
Where is Section 230 when you need it? Oh wait, they don't have that in Canada. Jeepers, must be a right wing paradise up there without that pesky rule.
Leftie shit thinks it's great to protect his corporate overlords from scrutiny.
Hey Brandybuck, excellent comment!
Please don't let shit-fer-brains and power-pigs like buckleup get you down. These kinds of ethical-moral-spiritual-intellectual lightweights (or worse) fear those who make them look bad! To fully parse this (and to see academically, why this is true), see http://www.churchofsqrls.com/Do_Gooders_Bad/ ...
Fuck off you idiot, Nazi-worshiping troll.
What does Section 230 have to do with this, Brandyfuck? Seriously, how would the draft Online Safety Bill be thwarted by 230? All these measures could be implemented even if Canada had a 230-type law in place.
Yes, that's what idiots like you actually believe: that opposition to Section 230 is rooted in wanting to make the US a "right wing paradise".
It doesn't even enter your mind that people might have principled objections to rent seeking legislation like Section 230. You can't even comprehend how that might be possible.
"...rent seeking legislation like Section 230."
Section 230 …
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200531/23325444617/hello-youve-been-referred-here-because-youre-wrong-about-section-230-communications-decency-act.shtml
Special protections, rent seeking, my ass!
No matter HOW many times you tell your “Big Lie”, it is NOT true! You’re part of the mob, aren’t you, gangster? For a small fee, you tell small businesses that you will “protect” them… From you and your mob! Refute the below, ye greedy authoritarian who wants to shit all over the concept of private property!
Look, I’ll make it pretty simple for simpletons. A prime argument of enemies of Section 230 is, since the government does such a HUGE favor for owners of web sites, by PROTECTING web site owners from being sued (in the courts of Government Almighty) as a “publisher”, then this is an unfair treatment of web site owners! Who SHOULD (lacking “unfair” section 230 provisions) be able to get SUED for the writings of OTHER PEOPLE! And punished by Government Almighty, for disobeying any and all decrees from Government Almighty’s courts, after getting sued!
In a nutshell: Government Almighty should be able to boss around your uses of your web site, because, after all, Government Almighty is “protecting” you… From Government Almighty!!!
Wow, just THINK of what we could do with this logic! Government Almighty is “protecting” you from getting sued in matters concerning who you chose to date or marry… In matters concerning what line of work you chose… What you eat and drink… What you read… What you think… Therefore, Government Almighty should be able to boss you around on ALL of these matters, and more! The only limits are the imaginations and power-lusts of politicians!
hosers. ML hardest hit.
I am pretty hard hit. I'll have to get a VPN going forward.
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I like the bit about "user flagged content". I mean, there's no way that wouldn't be abused by some nefarious organization, foreign country or individual willing to pay someone to flag everyone with views they want to suppress.
Or just 4channers screwing with someone for lolz.
Who will flag the flaggers?
Under this law, will it be a "hate crime" against Canadians to say "Eh?" or "Take off, you hoser?" Will it be violent to quote Wolverine: "I'm the best there is at what I do!...Bur what I do isn't very nice!"? Would treating a side of Canadian Backbacon as a waifu be considered "revenge porn?"
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There is a common theme.
Criminals, bigots can’t abide truth, reality. It exposes their wrong behaviour.
By censoring truth, public discourse is detoured away from reality. This suits those with post truth agendas.
Free speech is necessary to combat this criminal behaviour and it does a fine job at it.
Our enemy isn’t speech. It’s those who want to censor it.
I have never encountered a Libertarian or Republican who wasn't a congenital and perpetual liar.
Never.
This is the very definition of a troll.
It demonstrates itself as a liar.
Be thankful for free speech so you can disregard anything it ever says.
When someone doesn’t value truth, nothing they say needs to heard.
OK, Luger Boomer.
You're not responding to a Libertarian with Misek.
Irrelevant drivel.
Is it easier to be a two dimensional bigot?
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