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Supreme Court Ends Pandemic Permission To Prescribe Abortion Pills Remotely

Plus: Amazon responds to Parler lawsuit, Trump's execution spree continues, a bad ruling on safe injection houses, and more...

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Trump admin gets its way on abortion pills. U.S. women seeking first-trimester, non-surgical abortions must once again undergo an unnecessaryand, in pandemic times, riskyvisit to the doctor, clinic, or hospital. The Supreme Court has sided with the Trump administration in a fight over whether abortion drugs may be prescribed remotely and shipped via mail.

Like so many arbitrary rules around health care, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) requirement that abortion pills must be dispensed in person by a physician was challenged when the COVID-19 pandemic started. The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG), the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), and others argued that the expanded telemedicine options being allowed in other arenas should apply to the prescribing of abortion pills, too. And, last July, a federal court agreed, with U.S. District Judge Theodore Chuang writing that "in-person requirements" during a pandemic could be a "substantial obstacle" to patients and therefore represent an unconstitutional infringement on their access to abortion. For the duration of the pandemic, the requirement was suspended, Chuang ruled.

But the Trump administration challenged the court's decision, prompting the Supreme Court to rule in early October that Chuang must "promptly consider a motion by the Government to dissolve, modify, or stay the injunction," since "relevant circumstances" may have changed.

The most relevant circumstanceis the coronavirus pandemic still raging?has not changed it at all. The virus may have been (or looked like it was) in a lull in the early fall, when Supreme Court justices first weighed in. But that certainly hasn't been the case in recent months. Currently, "coronavirus infections remain at record highs in many U.S. states," points out Reuters. "Nearly 130,000 Americans were hospitalized with COVID-19 as of midnight on Monday and the country had reported 22.5 million infections and 376,188 deaths."

Nonetheless, the Supreme Court ruled on Tuesday to grant the Trump administration's request and stay the lower court's injunction on enforcing the in-person rule for abortion pills, pending the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit's decision on the matter.

Chief Justice John Roberts wrote that "the question before us is not whether the requirements for dispensing mifepristone impose an undue burden on a woman's right to an abortion as a general matter. The question is instead whether the District Court properly ordered the Food and Drug Administration to lift those established requirements because of the court's own evaluation of the impact of the COVID–19 pandemic. In light of those considerations, I do not see a sufficient basis here for the District Court to compel the FDA to alter the regimen for medical abortion."

Justices Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan, and Stephen Breyer dissented.

"We are disappointed and dismayed by the Supreme Court decision upholding the Trump Administration's arbitrary and non-scientific decision to continue to force patients to travel during a dangerous pandemic in order to obtain the medication they need," said Hugh Taylor, president of the American Society for Reproductive Medicine, in a statement. "To be clear, requiring patients to obtain their medications in person serves no clinical purpose and is not based on any rational scientific evidence or clinical judgement. It serves one purpose, to place an obstacle between a woman and the medication her physician has prescribed for her. We call on the incoming Biden administration to end this policy immediately upon taking office next week."


FREE MINDS

Social media platform Parler is suing Amazon over the tech giant canceling Parler's web hosting account. Amazon responds:


FREE MARKETS

Major U.S. companies suspend donations to election-fraud conspiracy promoters in Congress. Walmart and Walt Disney Company are "indefinitely suspending donations to U.S. lawmakers who voted against President-elect Joe Biden's election certification," notes Reuters. "Other blue-chip companies including AT&T Inc, Amazon.com Inc and Mastercard Inc announced similar moves in the past several days."


FOLLOW UP

The U.S. Department of Justice held a press conference Tuesday on the Capitol riot. Federal prosecutor Michael Sherwin, who is serving as acting U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia, said the FBI was investigating 170 people suspected of committing crimes in conjunction with the January 6 protest and riot and that 70 had been criminally charged. Sherwin also elaborated on reported pipe bombs found near the Republican National Committee and Democratic National Committee headquarters, saying that the bombs had been equipped with timers and detonators.

The Trump administration's execution spree continues. After a temporary stay of execution yesterday, the federal government killed 52-year-old Lisa Montgomery by lethal injection on early Wednesday morning. "The Supreme Court denied a last-ditch effort late Tuesday by her defense attorneys who argued that she should have been given a competency hearing to prove her severe mental illness, which would have made her ineligible for the death penalty," reports CNN. "She was the 11th federal death row inmate to be executed by the Trump administration after a 17-year hiatus in federal executions."


QUICK HITS

• Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell may support impeaching President Donald Trump.

• The House is voting on impeachment today.

• The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) says anyone flying into the U.S. must provide proof of negative COVID-19 status. The January 12 order—which goes into effect on January 26—requires all people traveling to the U.S. from a foreign country "to get tested no more than 3 days before their flight departs and to provide proof of the negative result or documentation of having recovered from COVID-19," explains the CDC.

• The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 3rd Circuit has reversed a good decision from a lower court regarding drug safehouses. "As the COVID-19 pandemic is exacerbating the already devastating overdose crisis, the Third Circuit's reversal of the earlier court's decision—which held that safe consumption sites do not violate federal law—will inevitably result in the unnecessary loss of countless lives," said Lindsay LaSalle, managing director of policy for the Drug Policy Alliance, in a statement.

  • A third member of Congress has newly tested positive for COVID-19 and attributes it to being in lockdown with unmasked colleagues during the Capitol riot:

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  1. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell may support impeaching President Donald Trump.

    Must not be up for reelection soon.

    1. Say it ain’t so Cocaine Mitch

      1. Never mind. It’s the New York Times with “sources” so likely it’s more attempts to seed more drama and discord.

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    2. McConnell’s statement (welcoming Trump’s impeachment) was misrepresented by the lying left wing media, including Reason.

      McConnell (and all other honest Americans who understand the Constitution) knows that a House impeachment cannot remove the president, and that Trump’s term will expire before the Senate could even schedule a trial.

      But even today’s WSJ contained articles, columns and letters to the editor that falsely implied the Senate could/should impeach Trump.

      1. How can you falsely imply that the Senate should impeach Trump? “Should” implies they are expressing their editorial opinion; an opinion cannot be a lie.

        1. The Senate doesn’t impeach anyone. Impeachment is up to the House. The Senate just holds the trial.

        2. Neat how you completely ignored the “could” part of his “could/should” statement, in order to pettifog.

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    2. Many of the neocons, Never Trumpers and other RINOs who have opportunistically demonized Trump and/or endorsed impeachment in the past week (without affording Trump any due process rights during the House impeachment process) are going to regret their actions during/after their next primary.

      During the 2022 election, Trump supporters will remember all GOP House members who vote for impeachment, and all Senators who endorsed impeachment.

      McConnell’s statement was NOT an endorsement of impeachment, as the left wing lying media propagandists have claimed.

      1. And true conservatives will remember all the GOP House members who supported Trump. There will be a showdown within the GOP, but it goes both ways.

        1. Lol, as if you give a flying fuck about conservatism. What a greasy little concern troll you are.

          1. Hey, sometimes greasy is good, within reason; pepperoni pizza, cheeseburgers. I imagine that White Knight is dry, and tough, and tasteless.

  3. https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1349202783371714564

    “The POTUS can’t tweet or post on Facebook, but we know from
    @Project_Veritas
    that the principal counsel for
    @PBS
    can call for the government to steal children from Republicans and throw Molotov cocktails at the White House!”

    1. https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1349114261558222848

      What does the DC media elite think of you?

      “Americans are so f*cking dumb. You know? Most people are dumb…” – Michael Beller, Former
      @PBS
      Principal Counsel

      1. Well, he has a point there.

      2. He ain’t wrong in general–I can walk on to any college campus to see a whole community of incredibly stupid people.

        1. Wisdom and university students are disparate.

      3. His use of the term “dumb” not only demonstrates his own f*cking stupidity, but also his disdain for Americans who suffer severe speech impediments.

    2. Project Veritas: Now there’s a reliable source of truthful information.

      1. New pro tip:
        Any group with “Project” in their name is up to something.
        Just like anyone who calls people “folks” is trying to hide something.

      2. Oh, and what have they lied about White Knight?

        Perhaps they tried to tell us that dihydrogen monoxide and hydrogen dioxide were the same thing?

        1. Did she really do that? Hilarious.

  4. The House Judiciary Committee just released a 50-page impeachment report ahead of tomorrow’s vote…

    Ctrl + F “Russia”

    1. And they put China backed Swalwell on the list of impeachment prosecutors.

      1. Anything Swalwell is on should not be taken seriously. He’s a complete clown show. The Steve King of the left.

        1. He has managed to fade the bad news that he was passing secrets—whether through negligence or intent—to a Chinese spy for years. She wasn’t hanging out with him for years because of his stellar personality, after all.

          Did he even lose his Committee seat?

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  5. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) says anyone flying into the U.S. must provide proof of negative COVID-19 status.

    A Muslim virus ban!

    1. They said they are doing it to stimulate air travel.
      I canceled my trip to Mexico.

    2. A Muslim China virus ban!

    3. The big test lobby has too much power.

    4. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) says anyone flying into the U.S. must provide proof of negative COVID-19 status.

      Looks like Big Pharma has been lobbying (i.e. promising very lucrative jobs to) CDC officials to commit public health malpractice yet again.

      More than a hundred million people worldwide who have already been infected and recovered from covid are immune from contracting or spreading the virus.

      It makes no rational sense and is irresponsible (but is very profitable for Big Pharma and Big Medicine) to require people who are already immune from covid to take covid vaccines in order to fly, work or do anything else.

      Why hasn’t Reason exposed this, and why hasn’t Reason advocated for the rights of those who already immune from covid?

      That would be real libertarianism.

      1. “The January 12 order—which goes into effect on January 26—requires all people traveling to the U.S. from a foreign country “to get tested no more than 3 days before their flight departs and to provide proof of the negative result or documentation of having recovered from COVID-19…””

        Just noticed that CDC is allowing some people who are already immune (if the can prove they recovered from covid, which could require a positive test and then a negative tested for an active covid case.

        If CDC was/is competent, they also exempt people who have ever contracted the virus (which requires a different test that aren’t widely available), including asymptomatic carriers who no longer have active cases (as asymptomatic carriers are also recoverers).

      2. Reason is not libertarian.

    5. You’d think this would be the main article headline on a libertarian website.

  6. https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1349072949853048832

    If Parler has a good lawyer, he or she had better be sending notice to preserve evidence to each of these companies.

    This is smoking gun evidence under Sherman Act.

    1. If Parler has a good lawyer…

      Whew, dodged a bullet there, eh big tech?

      1. All the evidence was on storage media that was rocketed into the Sun as part of routine maintenance.

        1. I wonder where Lois Lerner is now… What are they chances she moved into big tech?

    2. Good thing their lawyer quit on them too.

      1. Maybe Parler can get Giuliani or Lin Wood or Sidney Powell. Then they will kick ass.

        1. Good thing you two seem happy with punishing anyone who doesn’t use newspeak and instead used wrongthink. As of now you can no longer call yourself a libertarian with a straight face. We now are you Sophomoric CACLABCDEFG nonsense as applying to anyone who disagrees with your leftarianism.

      2. Funny that.
        I wonder why.

        1. Yeah, couldn’t be a fear of also being cancelled since they have already cancelled anyone who represented Trump or anyone on the right?

          1. “Nice law firm you have here, representing anyone famous?
            Say, about your credit cards, and your house loan, and your website hosting, and your kid’s school… you like those things, huh?”

    3. in close coordination with our peers

      Everybody was voluntarily separated by at least 6 ft., what more do you want? – Neolibertarianism 101

    4. They really didn’t think that Uganda would have the balls to boot them all.

      Uganda has a hell of a lot of oil too. I guess we know where Uncle Joe will be sending American troops next.

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  8. https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1349350344166408192

    Conservative commentator and former baseball star Curt Schilling says that AIG canceled his insurance policy over his “social media profile,” a new level of deplatforming not yet seen.

    1. What would be the justification? That is some twisted shit if AIG is expecting people are going to get sued over social media profiles.

      1. Has it occurred to you that Curt Schilling might not be telling the whole truth on this.

        1. Why are you trying to run cover for what’s happening?

          1. Because she’s a leftist, and likes it when her political enemies are punished, in any way possible.

        2. Has it occurred to you that FB and Twitter and a number of companies are applying arbitrary rules that the evidence strongly suggests is partisan and that the evidence is growing every day and that libertarians are next, after the punish Trump supporters and then move on to Never Trumpers? This is what history shows happens every time we start down this road.

      2. What would be the justification?

        Hemophilia?

    2. I wonder if 230 will now protect non-tech companies from the onerous liabilities of contract law too. I mean, despite taking billions of taxpayer dollars as a bailout just a few years ago, it’s a private company and they can do what they want, right?

      1. This is actually some really insidious shit that is exactly like what the Chinks do. It’s literally how their social credit system works.

        At this point, I’d be perfectly fine with allying with the economic left if it meant destroying these megacorps, except they’re completely on board with these Maoist policies. These people are daring the right to start a civil war because they now know the institutions of power are completely on their side.

  9. The January 12 order—which goes into effect on January 26—requires all people traveling to the U.S. from a foreign country “to get tested no more than 3 days before their flight departs and to provide proof of the negative result or documentation of having recovered from COVID-19…”

    HFS, are they acknowledging immunity?

    1. Oddly enough, no outbreaks are tied to airplane flights.

    2. I thought the Chinese engineered it so natural immunity is impossible. And there are mutant strains to deal with! Mutant. Strains. Oh, the humanity!

      1. They prefer to be called non-binary strains.

  10. https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1349316771078090753

    EU leaders are demanding that the Commission should ‘standardise’ a vaccine passport across all member countries, and that it should be required for people to travel throughout the area.

    1. The numbers in your forearm should all be the same font.

    2. Papiere, bitte.

      1. Fuck off, you insurrectionist asshole.

        1. That touched a nerve didn’t it, you fascist fuck.

        2. Yeah your mask has slipped completely, no longer even trying to pretend to be a libertarian.

    3. Yep- so what’s the issue? Do you even live in an EU country?

      1. I guess it’s cool with you that China has slaves too.

      2. “What’s so bad about Google working with China to censor and stalk its citizens? You don’t live in China, do you?”

        1. Isn’t one of the policy positions of Republicans that strong immigration control is needed to stop the spread of disease? Wasn’t Trump heralded for stopping travel between China and the USA to mitigated the spread of the disease (right so)?

    4. All I hear is that their borders are more open than the one between the US/Mexico.

  11. https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1349047017817956355

    In an unprecedented move, two major banks have announced they will refuse to do business with President Trump, and will shut down accounts he holds with them.

    1. If they don’t like it they should start their own fiat monetary system. Private companies!!! as the idiots love to shout.

      1. So, how long before we all learn that ‘anonymous’ and ‘secure’ digital currencies are really ‘like anonymous’ and ‘sorta secure’? Can’t let the good get in the way of a perfectly good purge.

      2. So, we are going to force banks to do business with people?

        1. It seems that your knowledge of banking rules is as tight as your grasp on chemistry.

        2. We do for everything else. But leaving that aside, at this point the start your own business model is under attack to as they are openly conspiring to destroy any opportunity for you to do that. And it already was exceedingly difficult because of government regulations. So if you don’t want government intervention (which I don’t) then your other option is not to defend this type of behavior but to condemn it. And try and move to a new business, as difficult as that is increasingly becoming. And also not to ignore the fact that at least some of the reasons they are doing this is because members of the party soon to have control of two thirds of the government have threatened to punish them if they don’t. And that same party had also promised to change the rules so they can have control of all three branches. But the “muh private business” argument ignores all of the rest of the facts I just stated.

        3. So, we are going to force banks to do business with people?

          Now do all other free association examples…

          (actually banks ARE forced to do business with people as you well know)

        4. Just try being a bank that won’t do business with black people, or Catholics.

          Are we done forcing bakers to decorate cakes for gay weddings?

    2. Called this a day or two ago. Trump’s not going to be the only one hit by BigFinance coming after him.

      Still, it’s just private companies, doing what they wish with their private property, right?

      1. bUiLd yUr oWn cUrREnCy.

        But not like bitcoin. We’ll be making that illegal soon.

    3. So if banks close his account dose he still have to payoff his loans to those banks?

    4. https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/trump-s-top-bankers-deutsche-banks-signature-cut-future-ties-n1253895

      Read down to the middle:

      “Signature Bank began the process to close President Trump’s personal accounts,” company spokesperson Susan Turkell said in a statement. “Signature Bank pledges it will not do business in the future with any members of Congress who voted to disregard the Electoral College.”

  12. A third member of Congress has newly tested positive for COVID-19 and attributes it to being in lockdown with unmasked colleagues during the Capitol riot…

    BASED ACCUSATION (because it’s against Republicans).

    1. Surely it would be an easy thing to show that republicans in the room had covid, right? Because they tested positive. Right?

    2. We have to use COVID to purge politically undesirables! We’re the party of science!

    3. The only one with covid at the time was a Democrat. So they got it from her.

  13. https://twitter.com/justindross/status/1348675002779004940

    Twitter stock is down because they ensured that every country outside the US is going to severely regulate or replace them.

    Imagine the UK allowing an ideological San Francisco company to control the BBC. Will India be ok with Twitter having authority to de-platform Modi?

    1. Imagine the UK allowing an ideological San Francisco company to control the BBC.

      That’s pretty much the situation now, except it’s an arm of the government and bankrolled by the taxpayers.

      1. That sentence makes no sense. Not that it’s syntactically incorrect but, contextually, I can’t tell if you mean the BBC and the British government, Twitter and the US government, or both Twitter and the BBC and the ideological Globalist consortium to which both governments openly subscribe.

    2. Booting millions of users from a platform that charges for eyeballs is also bad for your stock price.

      1. It really doesn’t matter because these companies control the Democratic party, and now the government.

        I disagree with the idea that the Democratic party subsumed these companies, rather they subsumed the Democratic party. Joe and Kamala’s puppeteers are sitting in the boardrooms of Alphabet, Amazon and Apple.
        America has become an economically fascist state ruled by oligarchs.

  14. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) says anyone flying into the U.S. must provide proof of negative COVID-19 status.

    And there it is. Better not travel anywhere you wouldn’t want to stay in the local hospital.

    1. But must not police any land borders, or be labeled a racist.

    2. Just walk across the southern border. No papers needed.

  15. https://twitter.com/Rasmussen_Poll/status/1349120017237995523

    New: Congressional Approval Crashes to 15% in
    @Gallup

    And then, there is this …

    Exclusive: 60% call impeachment a ‘waste of time,’ Big Tech backlash for censoring Trump

    1. I am so far removed from what’s going on in the leftist bubble to even comprehend what they are thinking.

      Strategically, this is a time to start acting as if Trump no longer exists and begin passing some ‘feel good’ legislation to show America how great things will be under Biden. Hand out some more stimulus money (not my preference, but what I think will get them some support) specifically aimed at working class and small business owners or something.

      A good 20% or so of the people who voted for Trump could be persuaded over to the Democrats in the next two years if they focus on positivity and moving forward (and not doing any of the worst things Trump voters fear). Instead, they are continuing a holy war.

      1. the healing has begun. but not before we rip off the scab again.

      2. Another 3 trillion spending bill would make them feel good. For about a week.

  16. U.S. women seeking first-trimester, non-surgical abortions must once again undergo an unnecessary—and, in pandemic times, risky—visit to the doctor, clinic, or hospital.

    To be fair, in pandemic times, a lot of these doctors are hurting for co-pays.

    1. Doctors are hurting , this was the first time ever my doctor called me to come in.

    2. I’m not able to rightly comprehend the kind of confusion * that sees (free) visits to the doctor’s office as a risk greater risk to women or a greater blow to women’s agency than anonymous sex/unplanned pregnancies.

      The bizarro world in which we now live certainly is tedious.

    3. “ in pandemic times, risky—visit to the doctor”

      The virus has a 99% recovery rate, so this is a false premise right off the bat. Be better than that, Ms. Brown.

      1. Again, the argument “Unsafe sex, unexpected pregnancies, and the termination thereof are too safe to incur the risk involved in visiting the doctor’s office.” is patently insane.

        1. The sort of argument that would make an objective person think “Maybe we shouldn’t have given up so quickly on teaching abstinence.”

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    I guess someone doesn’t know that corporate donations to federal political campaigns are illegal.

    1. Did they announce the same bout lawmakers who voted against certification in 2001, 2005 and 2017? Why bother asking because they were Democrats, so of course we know the answer.

      1. BTW, shit like this and what is happening with big tech is really starting to piss off a lot of us who didn’t suppo Trump but also support the spirit of free speech, free association etc and not just the literal definition as it applies to the government only. The libertarian argument against accomadation laws is that the free market will punish bad actors and that social pressure will prevent these kinds of actions so far the private business excuse is dismissing nthe argument libertarians have been making for decades about how we can manage without accomodation laws. Once again Reason writers are betraying libertarian principles in the half hearted denounceation of these actions. Hell, some aren’t even denouncing them but actually sound supportive.

        1. Wasn’t the libertarian answer to accommodation laws – like the barber who puts a sign in his window “I don’t cut Negro hair” – to be shunning, taking one’s business elsewhere, etc.? Surely, among the 75 million who voted for Trump, there are those with the requisite skills and itching for opportunities to start banks, social media, insurance companies, hotels, etc. etc. that cater to their fellow banned folks? “First National Conservative Bank. Show your voter registration card before depositing money or asking for a loan.”

          1. Both. But they are ignoring the shunning part and also ignoring that Big tech and big banks are now openly conspiring to destroy you and stop you if you try to start your own barbershop.

          2. Except your side is now also going after the backbones of industry to shut off those new businesses from starting. This includes banks now.

          3. the last round of regulations destroyed the small local banks and all bank regulations have a socially fit requirement to open. that requirement is very open to interpretation. You are a conservative no bank for you.

          4. And giving other people your business is a form of social pressure, as is shunning. However, anyone defending what happened to Parler, and big banks withdrawing any business from Trump supporters, after the government made it extremely difficult for small banks to operate and new banks to start, can’t do so by arguing that you can just start your own business, because that is increasingly becoming an unrealistic approach. A true libertarian realizes that this is no longer a viable option and thus these actions need to be denounced and punished. I argue for removing the regulations and creating competition but that isn’t going to happen under the Democrats. In fact they are promising more regulations. And at least some of the regulations they are proposing will actually force companies to do what these companies are doing supposedly voluntarily.
            Yes Trump didn’t deregulate as much as he promised or bragged about, and Republicans have used regulations also, but we are entering a whole new phase, where people like AOC (who has called for literal re-education camps under a different name) are driving much of the policies of the Democrats.

        2. ^
          If the American public decides it wants more Democratic than Republican solutions to our perceived problems (or vice versa) it is usually just a ‘lesser of two evils’ consideration for me. Some ideas on both sides are good, most are bad, but as long as there is the ability to lobby for or against, I’m okay with it.

          My moral line is crossed when it is socially acceptable, to not only push those with unfavored view points out of the public square but also to discriminate, marginalize, and impoverish them. It is a very short jump from that to it being okay to imprison or even execute them.

          1. It’s already ok to assassinate Trump supporters.

            1. Celebrated in fact, because the same people saying it was never okay to shoot n unarmed person for my reason, in many cases are now saying shootingan unamred Trump supporter is okay for reasons.

          2. Some ideas on both sides are good, most are bad
            You got the second part right! 🙂

      2. Great, now Jeff Jr will be here yelling whataboutism as an argument against their hypocrisy.

        1. Fuck off.

          1. How about you take your own advice. Your constant attacks against anyone who condemns companies conspiring to punish wrong think, while also appearing to ignore the Democrats who are threatening to do the same and to punish companies that don’t do so, shows your true colors.

            1. And don’t hand me it is just because they were mena to you in the past. I don’t have to like you to agree with you sometimes. I don’t condemn ideas or ridicule them outright just because of who said them (most of the time).

  18. A third member of Congress has newly tested positive for COVID-19 and attributes it to being in lockdown with unmasked colleagues during the Capitol riot

    Victim #6…

    1. Crybabies.

    2. The Chron this morning had one CA congress-scum ‘checking his life insurance’, quaking in his Birkenstocks, I’m sure.

  19. Soooo, why is the violent content on Parker a vision of their TOS but the other violent content from other users not?

    1. Because shut the fuck up, that’s why.

      1. It used to be Fuck That’s Why, but now they don’t even go that far. Now it is shut the fuck up, that’s why as we have moved full on to companies punishing wrong think, and politicians openly calling for the same policy, and the impeachment hearings today are the first step. I was pissed at conservatives and Trump supporters last Wednesday, a week later I am empathetic to them and pissed at the progressives who are quickly destroying any freedoms we still had. If we think libertarians will be safe because many denounced Trump, we are sadly mistaken and ignorant of history.

        1. This.

          I’m hoping some epic lawsuits come from this.

          Is “you supported Trump on social media” a legally valid excuse to cancel a contract? I’m thinking the answer is “no.”

          It’s no longer a “you can’t speak openly on our platform”, but a “you can no longer have health insurance/life insurance, you can no longer use banks”, etc.

          1. If the USSC can find the right to abortion without it being in the constitution under privacy, which is also not in the constitution, if the can decide that sexual orientation is a protected class despite it not being in the federal law that they were deciding on, a principles person would have to conclude that they also would have to find political affiliation a protected class under the same law despite it not being spelled out. Additionally, states like New York, do spell it out as a protected class, but I am not holding my breath the courts will see it that way.

            1. Or many of the ones who have cheered on here about any of the decisions I referenced and more, to apply the same principle here.

    2. Because it’s their TOS and they can enforce them as they want really. Hell twitter had an algorithm to find and stop white supremacists on their platform but found out if they enacted it it would flag Republican politicians. Hmm….

      That and parler didn’t do any regulation. Hard to argue keeping something when they flat out admit they’re not looking to keep out violent extremists, terrorists, etc.

      1. If they broke their contract, which it appears this defense is not valid, as it is apparent, just as you admit, that it is selective enforcement. Part of the free market idealism is contractual duty. You can’t arbitrarily break a contract. Period. Without the ability to trust in contracts, capitalism fails. But I bet you don’t consider that a bad thing. And don’t cosplay being a libertarian or a capitalist.

      2. They had a contract with Parler. They broke the contract arbitrarily. They applied their TOS selectively. And if there algorithm flags Republicans than it is very likely their algorithm is biased and their definition of what is considered racist extremely broad and biased.

      3. That’s not how contracts work dummy.

      4. False. Parler does have regulation, tons. It’s why its growth was not as fast as Gab.

  20. Does the Reason staff critically think anymore?
    “A third member of Congress has newly tested positive for COVID-19 and attributes it to being in lockdown with unmasked colleagues during the Capitol riot”

    It’s three Dems that came up positive claiming they got the ‘rona from unmasked Repubs holed up in the same Bunker under Berlin, oops, I mean the Capitol.

    All three were wearing masks, and two of the three had received the first dose of the vaccine. As of this morning none of the Repubs sharing the Bunker have tested positive.

    Soooooo, what does that say about:
    Who infected who?
    The effectiveness of masks in both preventing the wearer from getting ‘rona and the wearer from spreading ‘rona?
    The effectiveness of the vaccine?

    1. It says if you test positive, it’s someone else’s fault.

      1. “It says if you test positive, it’s someone else’s fault.”

        OK, but let’s be fair here:
        To a lefty, if anything bad happens, it’s someone else’s fault.

    2. Maybe weak-kneed cowards have weak-kneed immune systems.

    3. I’m not going to dunk on ENB for that; it’s honestly a neutral statement of what the Dem politician is claiming.

      ENB’s not responsible for Dems being a bunch of lying, hysterical bitches, she’s just reporting that they are being lying, hysterical bitches.

    4. Yeah, that don’t add up. It’s like they really believe that lack of masks is what causes infections. If they are even infected and it wasn’t a false positive.

      1. I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s what it actually is, considering the cycle rate of these tests.

      2. It’s because we have turned getting infected from something you can only take a few precautions against to lower the probability of happening into a moral failing.

        If a dem gets infected they have to foist that moral failing onto someone else. It’s the modern version of ‘the witches made me do it.’

        1. She turned me into a newt!

  21. This journowhore’s blog posts are a waste of time now.

  22. re the Parler comments Amazon says are inflammatory, I’ve seen stuff just as bad in comments in the Washington Post, but directed at Trump and other Republicans, as well as police. Guess Bezos has variable standards depending on who is the target.

    1. Probably his standard is whomever attacks Bezos gets Bezos’ ire directed at them like another billionaire I know. Sucks that everyone else needs to be brought into their petty spat but here we are.

    2. If Parler were smart they would go DIRECTLY at WaPo comments.

      1) WaPo comments are not unlike Parler posts- short “microblogs”.
      2) WaPo faces significant criticism from the people posting on Parler, and so this could be seen as using Amazon’s status as cloud provider as punishing Parler for this criticism.
      3) Indeed, I would check in Washington Posts’ previous opinion posts to see if the editorial board previously came out against Parler, indicating that they are sending signals to their co-owned company.

      While, from a libertarian perspective, there is nothing outright wrong with this, it is definitely strong circumstantial evidence for Parler vis a vis existing anti-collusion law. Probably enough for Parler to get a discovery order from a judge.

    3. Yeah, and on other platforms that Amazon continues to allow to operate. That is an easy counterargument to make in courts as those can all be found

      1. It’ll be interesting to see if your faith in courts is justified

        1. I don’t hold out hope, they’ve been able to use 230 as a shield before.

          1. True, but at least in this case money actually is changing hands which the courts take a bit more seriously.

  23. “‘It’s Gone Too Slowly’: California Changes Rules as Vaccine Rollout Falters”
    […]
    “Newsom on Monday said the state would start using “flexible language” designating who is prioritized for vaccines in instances where the doses are set to expire. He also said the state is looking to enlist dentists, pharmacy technicians, and National Guard members to help speed up the process.
    “We’re not going to enforce against people trying to do the right thing, and common sense,” he said, breaking from some of his elected colleagues….”
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/california-changes-rules-as-covid-vaccine-rollout-falters-across-us

    Parsed, that tin-pot dictator required the distribution to be ‘fair’ certain classes of people had to be vaccinated before certain other classes of people could be.
    His contact with ‘logistics’ has to do with telling his personal shopper to make sure he has enough hair grease, and he presumed to ‘mastermind’ the distribution of millions of vaccinations.

    1. To be fair, they only had 9 months to think about it. Usually takes that long to form a planning committee. Plus, they really don’t want this to end.

      1. And under Prop 65, they still have to figure out if the vaccine causes cancer and needs a warning label.

        1. Plus, between the M/W and the anti-gig-worker laws, the folks who give your shots must have worked there for the last 25 years, and make a minimum of $200K/year.

    2. This is, of course, a dry run for all the other shitty things the progressives are planning to do to us.

      They don’t call it “climate justice” for no reason, and the way the handle the Green New Deal will be no different.

      What should be a horrible, wasteful, and debilitating exercise in forced sacrifice will become even more so–for being all about the way things are distributed.

      Socialism is all about redistribution, and they can’t even distribute a vaccine competently.

    3. I have a coworker whose wife works for the LA County as an analyst. She has been drafted to compulsary 10 hour shifts at the distribution center, giving people vaccines. This order came down yesterday.

      So clearly, this has been well thought out. Analysts with needles. Huh.

      1. Just the person I want sticking a needle in my arm.
        There is one woman at my doc’s office who is a PRO! It’s not that you can’t tell when she sticks you, but it isn’t wince-worthy. I’ve gotten shots from others where it felt like they drove it in with a jack-hammer.

      2. I’m shocked they can’t find a hobo heroine addict that would be far more qualified

        1. More practical experience.

      3. She will hand out clipboards and collect paperwork, easing the load for the medical people. Analysts don’t handle medicine or needles. They do clerical things.

    4. I’m surprised the left would want teh national guard giving out vaccines since most lefties assume all guard member are just a bunch of redneck weekend warriors looking for some extra bucks and shootin time. that said i also don’t want someone not trained giving me a shot

  24. Everyone who votes to impeach President Trump today–supposedly for what he said–should specifically quote the part of Trump’s speech that merits impeachment.

    Here’s an except from what President Trump said to the crowd:

    “Now it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy. And after this, we’re going to walk down and I’ll be there with you. We’re going to walk down—we’re going to walk down. Anyone you want, but I think right here, we’re going to walk down to the Capitol—

    “And we’re going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women and we’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them….

    “Because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong….

    I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard. Today, we will see whether Republicans stand strong for integrity of our elections. But whether or not they stand strong for our country, our country. Our country has been under siege for a long time. Far longer than this four year period.…

    “Today, we see a very important event, though, because right over there, right there, we see the event that’s going to take place and I’m going to be watching because history is going to be made. We’re going to see whether or not we have great and courageous leaders or whether or not we have leaders that should be ashamed of themselves throughout history, throughout eternity. They’ll be ashamed….

    “And, you know what? If they do the wrong thing, we should never, ever forget that they did. Never forget.…

    —-Wall Street Journal

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-trump-said-to-supporters-on-jan-6-before-their-capitol-riot-11610498173?

    The people who are voting to impeach President Trump today aren’t doing it because of anything he said. They’re doing because of what these average Americans did afterwards, and they’re really just using that as an excuse to punish Donald Trump for what they believe to be his most egregious crime–actually representing the views of average Americans. The Democrats find that disgusting, and the establishment Republicans are just jealous.

    Impeaching Trump will probably make Trump even more popular, and if they actually manage to remove him from office (however improbable), the GOP won’t be able to move our of Trump’s shadow during our lifetimes. If they actually manage to remove him from office, future generations of Republicans will come to revere Donald Trump as something of a cross between Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Martin Luther King–a president who changed the nature of the Republicans party forever and a martyr to the cause.

    1. What they are really saying is don’t you dare say anything against the SleepyJoe regime.

    2. “…I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard…”

      I vote to impeach! He didn’t say “Mother may I”!!!!!

      1. You can’t find anything like incitement anywhere in that speech.

        Yes, he’s contesting the validity of the election.

        It’s like the progressives arguing that if you say the purpose of the Second Amendment is to arm ourselves in case we need to overthrow an oppressive government, then you’re committing treason or “advocating violence”.

        It simply isn’t true.

        He’s contesting the validity of an election, but he didn’t not incite violence. If they were using any power of the government other than impeachment, they would be violating his First Amendment right to free speech. You’re allowed to question the validity of an election and encourage peaceful protest–even if you’re the president of the United States.

        1. His entire term has had less to do with what he’s done and far more to do with the fact that he’s D.J. Trump and many, many people have raging cases of TDS; this is no exception.

          1. He’s their straight up whipping boy for white, blue collar, America. They hate white, blue collar, America, and because he had the temerity to actually represent their views, they whip him to try to keep white, blue collar, America in line.

            For those who (other than Sevo), who aren’t familiar with the idea of a whipping boy, they supposedly used to raise kids with the king’s son for whipping purposes–because whipping the king’s son for doing something wrong was unacceptable.

            The idea was that if you whipped the heir’s son, he would learn to understand that when he made mistakes, it was other people who suffered the negative consequences–and also so that there would be negative consequences for the king’s son when he misbehaved, even if they only came by way of his compassion for his friend being whipped.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whipping_boy

            The greatest example was probably when Frederick the Great, as a young man, conspired with his best friend to flee Prussia and the strictness of his father for England. That amounted to abdication and desertion by the crown prince, and a war over secession might have erupted–in which the people would have suffered. Frederick the Great’s father ordered to have the crown prince’s best friend beheaded in front of his son.

            The progressives, the media, the establishment Republicans, and the never Trumpers among them are basically treating Donald Trump like the proverbial whipping boy. They don’t want to make their hatred of average Americans too explicit (except maybe the progressives), so they whip Donald Trump as an example to the average Americans who support him. This is what happens when you don’t fall in line!

            All they’re doing is making him a folk hero.

            Didn’t they see the end of Braveheart?

            William Wallace was betrayed by Scottish nobles, who saw him as a threat to their authority because he was a folk hero and who were making plenty of money from their connections to the English king. They convicted him of treason to the English crown, to which he replied that because Scotland was free, he was a subject of Scotland and couldn’t commit treason against England. He was drawn, quartered, hanged, revived, and had his guts spilled out in front of him. They thought that if the nobility humiliated him, it would diminish the cause of Scottish independence.

            700 years after he was executed, people all over the world flocked to see his heroic portrayal in a movie about him.

            If he’d died of old age, few people outside of Scotland would know anything about him today. Being humiliated by elitists doesn’t make you less popular in the long run. It just makes the victim less fashionable for a while. Back in the court of London, William Wallace and his merry band of terrorists weren’t fashionable at all, but so what?

            They better hope they’re unsuccessful in removing Trump from office, or people won’t ever forget him. You know how Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush Jr., and even Obama seem kinda unimportant now in retrospect? If they remove Trump from office, that probably won’t happen to Trump. If they actually remove him from power, populism may become the new norm in the Republican party, and we may live to see a monument to Trump put up on the National Mall.

            1. The comparison to William Wallace is somewhat apt, as the actual guy was kind of a self-aggrandizing blowhard as well from what I remember reading back when the movie came out.

              The effort to remove him from office will fail, it is impossible to constitutionally convict him prior to his term expiring. The real path to turning him into a martyr is that, once he leaves, they will still not let him drift off to obscurity in peace.

            2. I like the sequel, Braveheart 2 (aka The Patriot), which has a happy ending.

              1. Except there is a good case to be made that Conservatives are the British Loyalists in that analogy.

            3. Hell, history seems to state that in many cases it doesn’t even make you unpopular for a little while in a number of cases. I, as anyone who read my posts on Wednesday last week saw, was fully pissed off with Trump supporters and ready to be done with them all together. My mother, a Trump supporter was also ready to denounce her Trump support after last Wednesday. Now we are in agreement that what has happened since then is far, far worse in the long term. Fuck, I have even entertained the thought, though dismissed it, that maybe I wished Trump had been successful. Mainly because I don’t think it would make things better, but at this point, in regards to liberty, I am not certain it would have made things worse than they are becoming. We are next, I promise you that, history shows this is what happens in every single case. And I am increasingly, (so from 0% to about 10% now) convinced Nardz et al may have been on to something when they stated that there won’t be another fair election that we will be California the nation over, one party rule where we can only ‘choose between two flavors of prograsiveism’ or face the consequences.

              1. I am wondering the same as well = Nardz point

                And it scares the living daylights out of me. What has my country become?

                1. I have told my mother and my wife it makes me wonder why I spent ten years defending this country and the constitution. And have also stated that we are now a fascist country nd have been for some time. If you had asked me last year I would have stated none of those things, that our system will ultimately protect us. Now I am not nearly so certain.

                  1. And no not fascist because the Democrats won but fascist because of how much control the government had on businesses and now businesses are doing the bidding of one party or ideology. I may have actually stated it if asked last year but not five years ago, not even ten years ago but it is the state we are in.

        2. I’m interested to see if Trump will be allowed any defense in the impeachment proceedings. I’ve noticed the media has actively avoided telling us what Trump actually said, just a summary something along the lines of “encouraging sedition” or “inciting a riot”. Presumably any defense lawyer would hammer home the quote you posted over and over, because what the left is claiming he said just isn’t there.

          And the idea that the crowd was attempting to overthrow the government is absurd. They’d have brought guns if that was their intent, it’s not like they don’t have them or don’t know what they’re for. They were attempting to delay Congress making a decision, which many previous crowds have protesters have also done for various issues. Some of this crowd committed crimes in the process, and they should face prosecution for those crimes (mostly property crime), but charging any of them with treason or the like is ridiculous.

          1. Trouble is, Trump was a big fat liar. He didn’t walk down to the Capitol with his supporters like he promised in his speech! Perhaps if he had, the crazies in the protest wouldn’t have pushed into the building.

            1. Trump is on the hook for supervising a bunch of grown adults who showed up of their own volition?

              Pretty flimsy case there. Also, as others have pointed out, the breach of the Capitol occurred while Trump was still speaking, the crowd he was talking to was not the crowd that started the violence at the Capitol. Were they following via livestream? Maybe, but Trump walking down there wouldn’t have done a damn thing because they had broken in before he had a chance to get down there.

            2. Check the timeline, asshole

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              2. Can someone please link to the factual time line? All I can find is the presumably biased media’s report that the Trump speech started shortly before noon, lasted about an hour, and the breach of the capitol was about 2pm. There were certainly protestors at the capitol before noon, but when did the “storming” happen?

                1. So if you don’t have enough information, maybe you shouldn’t have made the statement you did, as definitively as you did? I don’t know maybe informing yourself before possibly making an ass of yourself?

                  1. I do have enough information to know that Trump did not walk down to the capitol with his supporters as he promised in his speech.
                    That was a lie, no? You are right, however, I do not know if he had walked down there, he would have been in time to stop the breach.
                    Again, what is the real timeline? I certainly won’t hear it on NBC, CBS, Fox, ABC.

                    1. If the people had already broken into the capital, and Trump then went down there, he would be ripped for that too.

                    2. He didn’t walk down there because of the riots, which occurred before his speech ended and the Secret Service doesn’t let Presidents walk into active riots. It isn’t proof that he lied so much as proof the situation had changed after he made the promise. It is like promising last fall to take my kids ice fishing this winter, but it’s been so warm that I don’t trust the ice so we haven’t gone. I didn’t lie but the situation had changed enough that currently I can’t fulfill my promise.

          2. “I’ve noticed the media has actively avoided telling us what Trump actually said, just a summary something along the lines of “encouraging sedition” or “inciting a riot”.

            He didn’t say anything that was actionable by any means other than impeachment. Any other action by the government would violate the First Amendment.

            His “crime” was denying the results of the election.

            Not only did he not advocate violence but also advocated peaceful protest.

            1. Yes, while I think it was a stupid thing to believe, it is his Constitutional right to believe that, and for his supporters to believe it. And the vote on certification is not supposed to be a symbolic thing but is supposed to be a deliberative act and a final check and balance. So even what he was asking the legislatures to do wasn’t unconstitutional, even if undesirable.

              1. Now the ones who called for Pence, including Trump, to choose which votes to count, does seem from my interpretation of the constitution to be contrary to what it says, but even then them asking him to do that is protected if stupid speech. He chose not to do it, which I applaud, but voting against certification is any legislatures right, and it is also their right to say they believe the election wasn’t kosher.

              2. Just like when Barbara Boxer twice challenged electoral college results, it was a purposeful, Constitutional check&balance. Stupid to believe it, just like when Nancy Pelosi cried about “Our election was hijacked. There is no question. Congress has a duty to #ProtectOurDemocracy & #FollowTheFacts.”

                I guess #FollowTheFacts is not as catchy as #StopTheSteal.

                1. Yes which is what I’ve said all along, stupid and strategically a poor decision. I think Trump may have won a few more cases on the merits because some did have merit in my opinion, if he had shut his mouth for a few minutes. But I think he would have won enough to make it unnecessary if he had the ability to shut up, so….

          3. There won’t be impeachment proceedings past Jan 20th. Virtually every constitutional scholar agrees you can’t impeach someone who is out of office. Every mention of impeachment refers to removal from office.

            1. If Rasmussen Polls are close to being accurate, and they have been consistently one of the most accurate this year, then most people find this process stupid.

              1. And it appears from those same polls to be making Trump more popular while making the Democrats and Never Trumpers far less popular.

          4. I’ve noticed the media has actively avoided telling us what Trump actually said, just a summary something along the lines of “encouraging sedition” or “inciting a riot”

            of course. The lying liars in the media are working overtime on propaganda for the new regime. It’s remarkable to watch them in action.

          5. Indeed, finding the text of his speech requires some digging, and I’ve never seen a single media talking head or politcian or email from Daily Kos that pollutes my inbox mention *anything* that he said that remotely resembles ‘incitement to riot’, excepting the he gave a speech ergo ‘incitement to riot’.

            The most damning part of the speech seems to be “We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated. I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard. ”

            Of course, the notion that he said “peacefully…make your voices heard” is dismissed as a ‘dog-whistle’…’he didn’t mean it, he was basically telling them to murder Congresspeople!’

            https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/1/11/full-transcript-donald-trump-january-6-incendiary-speech

            1. While the people making the charges told us all summer that riots were peaceful or mostly peaceful, so we know what they think peaceful means.

    3. The Capitol break in happened during Trump’s speech – the people doing it didn’t hear what he said to be incited by it.

    4. I guess you as a judge would have to hear someone saying “I am robbing this building” to convict eh?

      Anybody that isn’t a moron can see him inciting over and over. But hey, look who I’m talking to.

      1. Yes if your entire evidence is based upon what would normally be protected speech.

      2. And the fact is that he stated specifically that they protest peacefully. So in essence you are trying to convict him of inviting someone to rob store for telling them not to rob the store.

        1. Again if you are the one hearing Dog whistles, and as only dogs can hear dog whistles, what does that make you?

      3. If you look for incitement, you’ll find it. If you look for someone encouraging peaceful protest, you’ll find it. That you immediately jump to the most violent interpretation of his speech says a lot about who you are.

        1. And not a good basis to convict anyone or convince a jury beyond a reasonable doubt.

      4. Please, do quote.

    5. “Impeaching Trump will probably make Trump even more popular, and if they actually manage to remove him from office (however improbable), the GOP won’t be able to move our of Trump’s shadow during our lifetimes.”

      Strongly agree. House GOP members who vote to impeach (without allowing Trump any due process rights during the process) will regret their votes when they run for their primary reelection in 2022, as Trump will very likely appear at rallies for GOP challengers, and Trump supporters will NEVER forget the GOP House members who vote to impeach.

      An impeachment vote will ensure that Trump remains the head of the GOP for at least the next two years (not the neocons, never Trumpers and other RINOs who have condemned Trump).

      1. Trump’s term ends next week, before McConnell could even schedule a trial.

      2. They are already experiencing extreme anger from their constituents if FNC website is to be believed at all.

    6. Democrats should stop mentioning Trump and get on with building back better, so we can tell them in 2 years at the polls how that is going.

      Republicans should be looking for a candidate who can make the case to stop socialism before it is too late, without scaring the children.

  25. Want to get rid of Planned Parenthood and the violent abortion methods? Then keep safe and private abortifacient legal and accessible during early pregnancy.

    I’m very pro-life. So I see these drugs as the most realistic way to reduce the violence. The solution is not the Oppressive State imprisoning mothers or their physicians, the ultimate solution is voluntary suasion. In the meantime these safe abortifacient prevent the desperation that causes the violence. It’s not ideal, but it’s a reasonable compromise. We don’t want to go down the Romania route.

    1. An ex-Republican Senator, Cory Gardner, tried to get birth control pills classed as an over-the-counter drug a few years ago, only to be opposed by Democrats and their “women’s health” NGO allies who claimed that only a doctor could adequately prescribe these things due to “safety and health concerns.” Oddly enough, before he proposed it, these same people had promoted making birth control available over the counter, and claimed those “safety and health concerns” were not prevalent in countries that did actually provide over-the-counter birth control pills.

      It’s almost like their promotion of Science! is based entirely off of political tribalism rather than actual science.

      I believe he also tried to open up Plan B options as well, due to it being relatively expensive as the FDA has only approved one version of Plan B, but that went nowhere.

      1. If they made them OTC< then it would be a lot harder to force insurance companies to cover them. This is the real reason.

    2. “Want to get rid of Planned Parenthood and the violent abortion methods? Then keep safe and private abortifacient legal and accessible during early pregnancy.”

      You do understand that Pro-Life crowds don’t take issue with Planned Parenthood or Violent Abortion Methods so much as they take issue with abortion, right? I guess you get points for trying to sound reasonable, but *if* abortion is murder, then favoring a “clean” way of murdering people over a “messy” way isn’t a choice.

      1. You do understand that Pro-Life crowds don’t take issue with Planned Parenthood or Violent Abortion Methods so much as they take issue with abortion, right?

        You don’t even understand this. Your projection is apocryphal. You might as well be saying that Men’s Rights Activists don’t take issue with lopsided legal/custody treatments and 14A violating tax breaks for women-owned businesses and are really just pissed that women aren’t in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant.

    3. I’m not in favor of these drugs requiring visits, but I can only perceive the narrative that “free visits to a doctor for birth control are more onerous and risky than anonymous sex/unplanned pregnancy” as subjugative disinformation.

      The real message should do away with the Trump/COVID derangement syndrome and point out that these drugs kill fewer people every year than births, car accidents, or even tylenol and, therefore, shouldn’t be regulated. The inclusion of COVID tacitly accepts COVID and lockdowns as acceptable.

  26. A third member of Congress has newly tested positive for COVID-19 and attributes it to being in lockdown with unmasked colleagues during the Capitol riot:

    Huh, yet another example of masks failing to protect their wearers from the Coofies. It’s almost like these are actually a placebo and not an effective tool for preventing community spread.

    Can these Democratic disease vectors be sued by their Republican colleagues for spreading the modern EbolaAIDS?

    1. Not placebo, 100% social conditioning tool

    2. Remember having the Wuhan virus doesn’t cause infection, not wearing a mask causes infection

    3. My theory is that masks increase community spread, because they give people a false sense of security for going out and running non-essential errands. My evidence is California.

      1. Don’t make me classify murdering someone as an essential errand. You won’t like me when I have to classify murdering someone as an essential errand.

      2. The vast majority of cases, where the numbers have actually been broken down, have been in nursing homes and prisons. This fall, colleges became another significant source.

        Other factors like eating in restaurants, going to the grocery store, family gatherings, etc., have actually been quite small, although the breathless coverage of cases on the margins by the ambulance-chasing media would give a distorted impression of those facts.

      3. I wonder how many of those people demanding longer lockdowns would feel if things were *really* locked down. Being able to run to the grocery store or Wal-Mart or picking up your favorite take-out…those are all ways and places where you can infect other or be infected, even if everyone’s wearing a mask.

        So I mean *really locked down*: no grocery stores, no Wal-Mart, no fast-food drive-throughs, no pizza delivery, no Uber-Eats or Door-Dash or whatever. No Amazon or Target online. No home delivery. No jogging, visiting a park, etc. You’ll stay in your house or else–we’ll allow you to wander around in your own backyard (backyard only), if you have one.

        For food, what you’ll get is a government truck will deliver a box of food for one person to eat for a week, and drop off the boxes at your front doorstep based on the number of people in your household (obviously, you’ll get what we put int the box, this isn’t a foodie delivery service; you’ll eat it and like it or else). Each week, you will be told to line your household up at the door, one at a time, so they can be counted; this will inform the number of food boxes dropped of at your house. An armed escort will accompany the delivery person to ensure that no one opens their doors while the delivery person is within 20 feet of the door. Don’t do that, because you could get shot. The delivery personnel and their guards will be in full MOPP gear.

        If someone in your house needs medical care, call 911 and an ambulance will be dispatched. People in full MOPP gear will pick up your sick loved one and take them away for treatment. If they live, maybe you’ll see them again.

        The ONLY “essential” personnel will be those involved with treating COVID and for producing and delivering the food. These people will obviously be issued uniforms and ID lanyards. So there’s no reason for anyone one else to ever venture outside of their house and anyone on the streets who is not in uniform obviously has no business being there, and will be subject to immediate detention in physical quarantine facilities, or worse.

        Let them imagine a real lockdown for a few minutes then ask the question again. Bet the answer is different.

        Otherwise, they literally want to murder granny.

  27. Meanwhile, in the WSJ today: Bugs Are Safe for Humans to Eat, Says EU

    If you want a hint at where progressive social democratic socialism will take us…

    1. Meanwhile, in the WSJ today: Bugs Are Safe for Humans to Eat, Says EU

      If you want a hint at where progressive social democratic socialism will take us…

      “Lockdowns forever, citizen! Stay in your pods, eat your bugs, and consooooooooooooome media content!”

    2. “How to make a dress out of a potato sack.”

    3. So are dogs and cats just ask anyone form Venezula

  28. “Like @RepJayapal & @RepBonnie, he attributes his exposure to several House Republicans who refused to wear masks while huddling in a secure location”

    Unless there is evidence those Republicans have COVID as well, then that is an irresponsible accusation.

    1. .. irresponsible accusation.
      That’s real popular now.

    2. The only one known to have covid in the room was a Democrat.

  29. Anyone else find it strange that Reason only posted Amazon’s claims and not Parler’s claims yesterday?

    1. If you find that strange you haven’t been here long enough

    2. Searching on my own, it is difficult to find an article that describes the basis of Parler’s suit that is not just parroting Amazon’s talking points.

      1. They hosted CUNSPEERATERZ and SUDISHUN

        That’s all you need to know, peasant.

      2. Haven’t watched, but I think Viva Frei has a youtube video up that goes over Parler’s suit.

  30. Reason started the rapid decline out of libritarian reporting with the libritarian case for speech laws.

  31. Jesse, I expect an apology, and then a much greater show of contrition for all the other lies. This isn’t the most egregious lie you’ve posted on here, not by a long shot, but it is the easiest to cite at the moment.

    “Sherwin also elaborated on reported pipe bombs found near the Republican National Committee and Democratic National Committee headquarters, saying that the bombs had been equipped with timers and detonators. ”

    JesseAz
    January.6.2021 at 4:07 pm

    LOL. Lefties still lying about pipebombs?

    Protesting the government is in fact constitutional.

    https://reason.com/2021/01/06/congress-suspends-electoral-college-certification-as-protesters-storm-u-s-capitol/#comment-8677675

    1. You aren’t owed anything.

    2. ‘Protesting the government is in fact constitutional.’
      Tell that to the Democrats calling to punish anyone who was at the protests (because they have expanded the list beyond just the rioters who entered the capital, and some are even talking about re-education camps openly) or voted against certification.

      1. Yeah, the cancel mob is already going after anyone who was even in DC at the time. Former MMA fighter Pat Miletich lost his commentating job simply because he was at the protest. He never entered the Capitol or did anything criminal, was just there literally peacefully protesting, and his employer decided that was too objectionable and fired him.

        1. Free association and property rights are two of the foundational stones of liberty. Behold those principles in action.

          In other words, no one wants to hang out with the treason cult. Sorry about it. Try self improvement.

          1. Free association and property rights are two of the foundational stones of liberty. Behold those principles in action.

            Glad to see you’re in support of the Civil Rights Act being repealed.

            1. Yeah, the trolls who are advocating private property and free association rights here in comments are generally people who don’t believe in free association rights in other contexts.

              Not every one of them is like that, but if the shoe fits, . . .

              Meanwhile, the First Amendment doesn’t protect the right to violate other people’s rights by writing a note to a bank teller saying that you have a bomb and you’ll set it off if she doesn’t empty the safe. The Second Amendment doesn’t protect the right to brandish a gun in someone’s face and threaten to shoot him if he doesn’t empty the cash register. There isn’t anything unusual about saying that our freedom doesn’t extend to violating other people’s rights. In fact, government has a legitimate responsibility to protect our rights in such cases.

              And so, private property and free association mean, as always, that we should be free to do as we please with our property so long as we don’t use it to violate other people’s rights. It does not mean that we should be free to use our property to violate the rights of millions of Americans in collusion with other big tech companies–both at the behest of and under threat from the Democratic party, which will now control 100% of the government that’s already brought antitrust cases against them.

              There are honest and smart libertarians out there who may disagree with me (or us) on that point, but they’ll account for the collusion and the threats that the Democrats have leveled at the big tech companies. They’ve repeatedly threatened to break their companies up if they don’t do more to censor conservative speech on their platforms, and now that’s what the big tech companies are doing? There certainly isn’t anything principled about ignoring those facts. Those who legitimately disagree with us need to account for them.

          2. Did I say I wanted any action taken? Of course they’re free to fire their employee for whatever reason they want, and I’m free to criticize them for it or aimlessly bitch about it on the internet.

            Since you’re such an ardent defender of freedom of association, how do you feel about gay wedding cakes and public accomodation laws?

            1. DOL’s a one horse pony on this conversation.

              1. He’s also a coward who flees when called on his bullshit, same with that raspberry pussy downthread.

                Strawman and run, strawman and run. It must get tiresome, but dunking on them sure doesn’t.

          3. The principle is that you tolerate it, not that you have to like it. They shouldn’t be forced to give him his job back, but it was also incredibly shitty to fire someone for that.

          4. And free association and free speech also allows us to call them assholes for doing it. Fuck why is that so hard to understand?;

          5. Free association and property rights are two of the foundational stones of liberty. Behold those principles in action.

            Something tells me you don’t actually give a shit about free association rights.

        2. It’s funny to hear on a libertarian site that a business cannot decide what to do with their own employees. Are you on the side of freedom or not?

          1. It’s funny to hear on a libertarian site that a business cannot decide what to do with their own employees.

            Good to see you’re in support of Jim Crow laws again.

          2. It’s not “cannot”, but “should not”.

            And, if we are to have civil rights laws, I don’t see how political beliefs are particularly different from religious ones. Maybe the Trump fans should just declare him the second coming and claim it as their religion.

          3. They can do what they want that doesn’t protect them from social repurcussions

          4. Nice strawman, I said no such thing.

      2. Thousands of people stormed the capitol building. The slightly over 100 arrests so far is completely and strictly an enforcement of laws. Just like you expect to happen at the border. Rule of Law, not of man.

        No one is talking re education camps who has any hope of getting that done. I haven’t head that at all, and definitely not from any federal level politician. The constitution will not allow it in any case.

        Don’t let the right wing propaganda grab you back, Soldier. You saw what this was: an attack on the constitution, incited by the president. That makes them enemies of the constitution, the domestic variety. Remember your oath.

        1. Thousands of people stormed the capitol building.

          Thousands of people tried storming the White House last summer, too. What happened there?

        2. “Thousands of people stormed the capitol building.”
          You.
          Are.
          Full.
          Of.
          Shit.

        3. “Remember your oath.”

          So you don’t want to live much longer.

        4. What is the constitution when it’s soiled by democrats. Having done a huge amount of damage over the years, now democrats insist on tightening the screws even more. You may get everything you want and then some. You may enjoy it for a time, but in the end tyranny gets everyone.

        5. I do remember my oath and that includes not convicting people who didn’t commit. Crime simply because I disagree with what they said. Remember your oath.

          1. You’re talking to someone who fantasizes about mowing down US citizens with an Apache helicopter.

            1. And believes most apache pilots (the majority of whom are guard pilots btw) would do so.

        6. Are you going to apologize for saying under a dozen arrests when on the first day over 70 people were arrested and it is now over 170?

          Are you going to apologize for not knowing only 5 people were arrested the first day of the Minneapolis riots?

          Are you going to apologize for Stolen Valor?

        7. And even more didn’t and most stated they couldn’t even see what was going on.
          AOC has, and Reich has, and Eugene Robinson has. Fuck you are being willfully ignorant. ABC news and WaPo have both ran articles on how the government should identify Trump supporters and take measures to cleanse the country of that movement. ABC news actually used the phrase cleanse.
          And calling for not certifying the election is protected speech, and voting against it isn’t unconstitutional either. I condemned the violence. But not the people who weren’t violent and I condemned overcharging them and oppose sedition charges. I also oppose any action to punish anybody for voting against certification. The constitution requires them to vote on it for a reason. It isn’t an automatic, or shouldn’t be an automatic thing. If they felt they couldn’t vote for certification, that is their right and in no way unconstitutional. Punishing them for wrong think is a bigger danger to the constitution than what they even came close to doing.

        8. And I didn’t condemn them for what they said but for the violence which I also specifically stated but you seem to ignore that part. And have also condemned any threats of charging them harsher than similar rioters have been punished simply because of what they stated.

        9. Your personal hero FDR locked up tons of people in camps, and for essentially the same reasons you’d use to lock up Trump supporters: suspicion that they aren’t loyal to the US.

          Since when do you give a fuck what the Constitution says? I’m not gonna look a gift horse in the mouth, but I am suspicious it isn’t genuine.

    3. I hope they find the individuals responsible for those bombs and hold them accountable.

    4. At the time I posted it the only bomb that has been reported was a box that ended up not being a bomb dummy.

      1. I mean, even if I want to get really technical….

        The bombs weren’t at the capitol, but just near it.

        https://www.13newsnow.com/article/news/nation-world/washington-dc-pipe-bombs-and-cooler-of-molotov-cocktails/65-d3fe68e9-0b79-4882-95ed-070da6abf2ee

        DC Police said two pipe bombs and a cooler of Molotov cocktails were found near the US Capitol Building

        Your claims were that they were in the US Capitol.

        So I ask you to apologize.

    5. Are you also going to apologize for claiming volokh never claimed the 1A’s reference to the press was as the printing press?

      https://reason.com/volokh/2018/04/24/freedom-for-the-press-as-an-industry-or/

      Or the hundreds of other lies you’ve told in the last year?

      1. DOL asking for an apology for being dishonest is peak hypocrisy.

  32. So Amazon invokes Section 230 in a breach of contract lawsuit, defending its right to hold a platform liable for user content on it.

    Is that really how this was supposed to work?

    1. No, but to point that that out will have the rabid pro 230 posters on here accusing you of wanting to destroy 230 so you can put the government in charge. Or counter your argument with this is what the world looks like without 230.

    2. Is that really how this was supposed to work?

      Yes. See Cox and Wyden’s opinions on Cubby v. Compuserve.

  33. Libertarians and libertarian leaners we are next, our opposition to Trump won’t protect us once they get done punishing Trump supporters and conservatives. Stop excusing this behavior, stop shrugging it off as “eh, private businesses” and ignoring the elected Democrats who are calling for the same thing from government. The Democrats are doing exactly what we all feared Trump would do, but mostly didn’t.

    1. The democrats? Last I checked these are private companies made up of private citizens all deciding what to do.

      Funny that you, arguing ostensibly as a libertarian, want, what exactly? For government to tell these big bad mean businesses that they can’t exercise control over their own platforms and employees?

      Honestly hilarious the mental gymnastics of the fascists here. You can’t decide what you believe in except for “rules for thee, not for me.”

      1. The mental gymnastics it must take for you to even brush your own teeth must be exhausting for you.

        Seriously seek help before you hurt someone.

      2. I said they are ignoring the elected Democrats who are calling for the same. And then you come along and do exactly that. I did reference elected officials who are calling for the government to do the same as what private businesses are doing. The fact that you ignored that, and made a spacious argument shows that you are being partisan and okay with these actions, even by elected officials.

      3. And if you look at corporate donations, how they are arbitrarily applying the rules, and the make up of a good number of their boards of directors, I don’t think it is much of a stress to even label these private corporations as Democrats.

      4. “Honestly hilarious the mental gymnastics of the fascists here”

        Narrator: “Little did Jeff realize that he was the real fascist here”.

        Encyclopedia definition of fascist economics:

        “In general, fascist parties exercised control over private property, but they did not nationalize it.[7]
        Scholars note that big business developed an increasingly close partnership with the Italian Fascist and German fascist parties. Business leaders supported the party’s political and military goals. In exchange, the party pursued economic policies that maximized the profits of its business allies.[8]”

        1. He says that unironically right after I stated “Stop excusing this behavior, stop shrugging it off as “eh, private businesses” and ignoring the elected Democrats who are calling for the same thing from government. The Democrats are doing exactly what we all feared Trump would do, but mostly didn’t.”

  34. Consequences of that paving on the road to hell:
    The Giants built that wonderful ball-park now I guess twenty years ago, and in acquiescence to the city government’s anti-auto policies, limited parking.
    But not really; the Giants owned several acres across the channel and intended to build on it, so they used it for parking until they could start. Given SF’s approval processes they finally started work last autumn; chain-link fence, closed off.
    So what?
    Well, the Giants offered the stadium for vaccinations. No can do; no parking available.
    Ain’t central planning wonderful?

  35. On another important topic, Holman Jenkins amplified my argument about herd immunity in today’s WSJ column at
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/maximize-the-vaccine-11610494003?mod=opinion_lead_pos9

    excerpt

    Sen. Rand Paul was assailed for tweeting that his own natural infection was more than 99% protective against future illness, compared with 94.5% for a vaccine. He was not recommending people go out and indiscriminately spread the disease. But once you accept that we’re not just one or two preachments away from solving the problem of Covid with mask-wearing, it’s time to be grateful for the one upside of infection. “Herd immunity” was a taboo term when paired with the word “strategy” but needs to rehabilitated now as a description of the goal that both vaccine and natural spread are helping us achieve.

    The U.S. will soon reliably be vaccinating a million people a day but natural infections, by conservative estimate, were already putting a million a day in the U.S. on the path to natural immunity, though only a fifth of them showed up for testing.

    Either kind of immune response is considered almost sure to prevent serious illness from future infection. Less certain is whether either also prevents transmission. But as epidemiologists such as Yale’s Harvey Risch and Brown’s Ashish Jha independently predicted, new cases in the Dakotas are starting to fall precipitously with perhaps half their populations having experienced Covid 19.

    The practical implications are obvious. Don’t spend vaccine in the short term on people who have already been exposed if at all possible. A second implication: Unlike other countries, the U.S. has been strangely resolute in pretending that “confirmed cases” are the measure of the epidemic. Seldom has there been a clearer test of how the media sets the agenda for politicians. The press repeats this misleading statistic a thousand times a day to no real purpose, leaving us only less certain where we stand in the herd-immunity race. Underplaying the disease’s true prevalence, we have (without realizing it) conditioned people to be less careful even as we preach at them to be more careful. We cause them to underestimate their exposure risk and overestimate their death risk. Now we’ve put ourselves in the weird position of being unready to use vaccines optimally to stop the epidemic as soon as possible. We find it hard even to admit to ourselves that natural immunity is helping to bring our goal within reach.

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  37. Open question:

    Why shouldn’t Trump call for mass, violent revolution against a corrupt government that’s openly stated its totalitarian intentions?

      1. I don’t think that solves the problem of an illegitimate, corrupt government with totalitarian plans…

        1. As I was scrolling past for some reason I read that as totalitarian plants… Little Hitler or Mao shaped cacti? Pol Pot ferns? Castro tomatoes? It made me chuckle.

    1. *ENB is busy sending Nardz IP address to the FBI*

      Hope you’re using a VPN, Nardz. You’re about to lose your mortgage and credit cards for that sort of doubleplus badthink.

      1. IPv7 needs to include emoticon support so I can just have a series of animated middle fingers as my IP address.

  38. Just abolish the FDA…

  39. They are going to have to replace Trump as the symbol of hate, if they want to maintain the tradition of the “daily hate”. I wonder who the unlucky sob is going to be.

    1. As I said before, if somebody would’ve told me fifteen years ago, that when authoritarianism seized America Donald Trump would play the part of Emmanuel Goldstein, I would have thought that they were insane. And yet here we are.

    2. Trump will remain the existential threat they will just spread it to anyone who ever dared say anything nice about him or even supported anything he may also have coincidentally supported.

      1. And if history seems to tell us, that will eventually be even members of their own party. Which means eventually things like support for criminal justice reform 2ill likely be on that list, as will allowing states to decriminalize marijuana. Hell, the progressives did a 180 on OTC birth control as soon as some Republicans began supporting it.

        1. They remembered that they care more about donor profit than they care about women.

  40. “We are disappointed and dismayed by the Supreme Court decision upholding the Trump Administration’s arbitrary and non-scientific decision to continue to force patients to travel during a dangerous pandemic in order to obtain the medication they need,

    This should be the attitude they have about EVERY prescription drug. Fucking hypocrites.

  41. “And, last July, a federal court agreed, with U.S. District Judge Theodore Chuang writing that “in-person requirements” during a pandemic could be a “substantial obstacle” to patients and therefore represent an unconstitutional infringement on their access to abortion.

    What about my Constitutional right to arm myself? Can I do that through the mail or send someone to pick it up for me? I feel like the need to show up, in person, at an approved FFL, fill out intrusive and embarrassing paperwork, then wait for a “mother-may-I” approval from some *government* agency could be a “substantial obstacle” infringing on my 2nd Amendment rights.

    C’mon Judge, you pulled your desired outcome from your butt, then worked backward without even considering the implications of your argument?

    1. It is like how they argue against voter ID laws but seem okay with having to show an ID to purchase a gun. Some rights I guess are more important than others. And being able to vote for the right party is the most important right. I am certain if the Democrats were the ones suspecting that the Republicans overlooked fraudulent voting, that they would be screaming not requiring IDs and in person voting is racist.

  42. It’s funny (sad funny) to me how many of the people who favor Parler and Trump’s deplatforming latch on to “It’s a private business, they can deny service to whomever they want!”

    But there’s never a response when I say “I agree. So now a private business like, say, a baker can deny business to whomever they want? Like choosing not to decorate a cake for a gay wedding?”

    1. Shut the fuck up, that’s why. See my post above about why it is no longer FYTW.

    2. But that’s different because…ah…stfu!

  43. Remember when the Constitution was amended and that enumerated power to Control and Regulate Food and Drug by UN-elected federal agencies happened?

    Ya; me neither — When will SCOTUS ever pull their heads out of their *sses.

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