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Telemedicine Abortion Gets Green Light From Federal Court

Plus: "Heartbeat law" ruled unconstitutional, introducing the Atlas of Surveillance, Brave New World reimagined, and more...


Judge frees abortion pill from doctor visits (for now). A federal court ruled Monday that women seeking abortion pills during the COVID-19 pandemic should not have to visit a doctor in order to obtain them.

Under current rules set by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), non-surgical abortion— i.e., the kind that's induced by pharmaceuticals, not physicians—still requires patients to visit a hospital, doctor's office, or medical clinic to be prescribed the abortion drugs, even though a patient will go through the process at home.

"A medical or medication abortion uses two drugs to terminate a pregnancy," explains a new report, "Prescription Denied: Accessing the Abortion Pill," from Newsy. The first of these pills, mifepristone, "blocks a hormone to induce the abortion. The second drug, misoprostol, completes it by expelling the pregnancy. But mifepristone, which for medication abortion goes by the brand name Mifeprex, is among the most restricted drugs in the U.S. which makes it challenging to get. … the Food and Drug Administration imposes tighter restrictions on Mifeprex than on opioids such as fentanyl."

The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG), the National Women's Health Network (NWHN), and other groups have been pushing the FDA to revise its rules so that abortion patients can see doctors via telemedical appointments and then receive their pills in the mail.

"If the laws and regulations that determine the terms of abortion access in the United States were based on science—not politics—medication abortion would be widely available in the United States without medically unnecessary restrictions on distribution," states an open letter signed by a range of physicians and health and advocacy groups.

On Monday, U.S. District Judge Theodore Chuang seemed to be in agreement with these advocates and doctors, writing in his decision that "in-person requirements" for abortion pills present a "substantial obstacle" to patients and are likely unconstitutional.

The judge issued a preliminary injunction blocking enforcement of the FDA's rules on mifepristone for abortions until at least 30 days after the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services declares an end to our current public health emergency.

"We look forward to a day when federal reproductive health care policy is grounded in science, not animus, and this medically baseless requirement is lifted once and for all," said Julia Kaye, a staff attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union's (ACLU) Reproductive Freedom Project, in a statement.

The lawsuit challenging the FDA's rules on abortion drugs was filed by the ACLU on behalf of the AGOC and other groups. ("In addition to the case decided today, the ACLU has another case challenging a broader range of FDA restrictions on medication abortion care that was filed prior to the COVID-19 pandemic," the organization noted in a press release yesterday. "More information on that challenge can be found here.")

The Monday ruling "represents a victory for patients, who should not have to face the additional burden of increased COVID-19 exposure as a condition of receiving their prescribed mifepristone," said ACOG President Eva Chalas in a statement. "It also represents a victory for the dedicated clinicians who are working to provide needed care without unnecessary exposure of patients, their families and the members of the healthcare team, to the novel coronavirus."

You can read the full decision here.

"The states of Indiana, Louisiana, Alabama, Arkansas, Idaho, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska and Oklahoma had asked to intervene in the lawsuit," arguing "that the case could impact how they enforce their own state laws that relate to or reference the FDA's regulation of mifepristone," notes the Associated Press. But "Chuang rejected their request last month. The judge said the federal case would not eliminate any state's ability to continue to regulate abortion medication 'above and beyond' the FDA's requirements."

In other abortion-related rulings released yesterday, a federal court has declared Georgia's "heartbeat law" unconstitutional. The law, passed last year, banned abortion at the point that any fetal cardiac activity could be detected, which occurs just a few weeks into pregnancy.



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•  California is headed back toward lockdown. "Gov. Gavin Newsom ordered the closure Monday of all indoor operations at restaurants, bars, gyms, churches, malls, and other locations in 30 counties statewide," reports CBSN Los Angeles.

• A judge sent a 15-year-old girl in Michigan to jail for not finishing her homework.

• A new television series based on the classic dystopian novel Brave New World debuts Wednesday.

• John Morgan, a top fundraiser for Joe Biden, told The Daily Beast that Sen. Kamala Harris' "treacherous" attacks on Biden during Democratic presidential debates last summer disqualified her from becoming Biden's running mate. "She didn't stab him in the back—she stabbed him in the heart," Morgan said.

• "The resumption of routine visa services will occur on a post-by-post basis" at U.S. embassies and consulates abroad, a State Department spokesperson told ABC News yesterday.

• "The pro-choice movement in America is almost inextricable from Planned Parenthood"—and that's a problem, writes Jessa Crispin at The Guardian.

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  1. Judge frees abortion pill from doctor visits (for now).

    Is that doctor making the OK sign?

    1. I didn’t believe what they said about Margaret Sanger but now I’m starting to wonder.

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      2. It does not take much research to find a lot of what Margret Sanger said about race. She really did set out to reduce the birth rate in the black community to much less than replacement. You will need to use for the search otherwise google will heavily filter the results to PP propaganda.

      1. In this case, it’s pronounced ‘Lay-cist’.

    2. Clearly a lacist.

    3. Hello.

      Sweden wins.

      How can this not be evident by now to the haters?

      1. Because Sweden’s economy still went to shit and more people died.

        1. “Because Sweden’s economy still went to shit”

          Except it didn’t.

            1. And their death rate has been on a pretty dramatic downswing since June 24th, but whatevs.

            2. Also, fuckin’ LOL at anyone citing the New Woke Times after Bari Weiss spilled the beans about how idiotic their reporters actually are.

        2. more people died.

          There’s a graph right there that shows you’re apparently too stupid to read graphs.

          1. Eh, maybe I’m wrong. Also there was a Unicode HAIR SPACE at the start of that handle. I don’t call people stupid, just so you know.

            1. You just steal handles as a form of coercion because you’re a self righteous asshole.

              1. “Stealing” someone’s handle is just as coercive as telebortions are possible

    4. It does appear that the woman in the picture is making the OK sign.

    5. Ha!

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  3. You can shut down businesses or keep them open. Close schools or stay in session. Wear masks or not. The virus will make its way through in either case, and if we protect the elderly then deaths will be spared.

    Finally, 2020 has given voice to fatalism. Surrender, brothers and sisters, and be free.

    1. “and if we protect the elderly then deaths will be spared”
      No, deaths may be delayed, but not spared. Nobody gets out of here alive

      1. Hush. You will burst their progressive-child utopian bubble.

  4. California is headed back toward lockdown.

    Surely you mean Florida.

    1. Both actually, but while Newsom claims to be using a “dimmer switch” he’s slamming it all the way back down, while Florida is actually sliding slowly

      1. California shuts down again, again wiping out people’s lives, savings, jobs.

        Oh and this happened in early June in LA

        1. Black Coofs Matter

      2. And don’t call me surely!

    2. Did you see Cuomos new posters praising how well NY handled covid? That is a true success story.

      1. Someone on the Twitter asked if that airplane was about to do a 9/11 on Corpse Mountain.

      2. Hier.

        Cuomo shockingly unveiled a huge model of an actual mountain during another press conference to physically illustrate the analogy

        Paid for, no doubt, by all the savings from unnecessary ventilators.

        1. Wow. That may be one of the dumber attempts at outright political propaganda I’ve seen outside of North Korea. Complete cringe to anyone who isn’t a brainwashed zombie.

          1. I can’t believe you’d talk about Italians like that. They’re every ibt as bright as anyone else in the second quintile.

      3. Cuomo proving with that thing that the Left can’t meme.

      4. To be fair, It is the second most poster-worthy accomplishment of the brothers cuomo, individually or as a team. Only beaten by Chris’s pecs, but that’s by quite a bit.

    3. California is getting the same surge Florida is, but guess which state gets mocked by the media for having a surge? That’s right.

      1. Florida has a death rate of under 300 per million, New York was 1700.

      2. It’s almost as if the higher the population density of an area, the more Covid cases there are.

        1. I think my favorite part of your comment is that you don’t understand why what you said has nothing to do with his comment and you’re getting laughed at for it.

          1. His comment was more basic bitch whining that the media is being mean to Republicans. And they’re doing such a bang-up job managing this!

          2. Man, I’m rude. Oh, wait, that wasn’t me.


    My County School Board comes through. They have recommended two options- distance learning, or send your kid to school full time. No in-between “hybrid” theater that pretends a 1st grader at school with a mask all day is somehow at less risk of contracting Covid.

    None of the districts are required to follow these recommendations. And there is already a “counter petition” calling to adopt the state (freak out) recommendations. I am hoping a support petition spins up.

    1. I don’t know about the Orange County School Board, but the Orange County Board of Supervisors is dominated by Republicans, which means Orange County is racist.

      Resist. Resist. Resist.

    2. Get rid of the damn public schools altogether. This is the moment.

    3. Its not the kids who are at risk dummy. We’ve just got to flatten this dang curve…

  6. If African-Americans and other minorities enjoy high speed internet access at lower rates than Caucasian-Americans and Asian-Americans, then on an equality of outcome basis, isn’t telemedicine objectively racist?

    1. Remember when welfare recipients had two color televisions on average? Well, it’s 2020. They now have two smartphones on average. Hell, they’re better connected than I am!

      1. smarter too

  7. BLM Protests overlain on the graph of Covid-19 cases. Protests and Riots still causing damage to our country.

    1. Correlation is not causation. But you knew that and wanted to cast causative blame anyway.

      1. Now do correlation between ending lockdowns and C19 spread.

        Now explain how reopening is dangerous, but mass left wing protests are safe.

      2. You’re right, correlation is not causation. But I don’t think it’s unreasonable to surmise that thousands of people gathering in the streets, more often than not at distances far less than six feet, some wearing masks some not, and yelling and chanting political slogans in the middle of a pandemic would be a contributing factor to an increase in cases.

        And yes, there are other contributing factors such as states starting to re-open, some people flouting mask rules or guidelines, and in FL and other coastal states people gathering on the beaches in large numbers, etc. Although in my own personal, admittedly anecdotal experience, there are still a lot of people who aren’t going back to their normal routine yet. Traffic on the roads is still lighter than normal (although not as light as it was at the start of the lockdown) and the rec center where I teach Taekwon-Do is practically dead – I only have two students signed up for this month (luckily I don’t rely on income from that to live or else I’d be fucked).

        But the mainstream media, politicians, and even many “medical experts” are only pointing to these other contributing factors and completely ignoring the elephant in the room – the thousands of BLM protestors flocking to the streets for the last two months. Because apparently common sense is now “racist” along with everything else.

        1. Protesters, wrongly in my opinion, decided to take the risk for a greater cause. They knew the risk. They largely wore masks.

          Trumplicans on the other hand flouted hygiene measures just to be silly cunts who thought, because they are irredeemably stupid, that killing more Americans might make Trump’s poll numbers tick up a notch or two. They were wrong and killed Americans for no reason whatsoever.

          1. “They largely wore masks.”


            1. Go find one of your anecdotes that shows them wearing masks, since anecdotes from rightwing media is apparently all you need for evidence.

      3. Correlation is not necessarily causation. It is, however, a necessary prerequisite of causation and the best evidence of it. It is not, however, conclusive.

        Given that we know how germs work and how this virus spreads, the correlation combined with the existence of conditions conducive to the spread of the virus make a pretty conclusive case.

        Are you so fucking stupid that you don’t understand how causality works and think correlation is evidence against it? It appears you are.

        1. No he’s just one of those asaholes who thinks stupidly adding a minor observation helps the discussion.

          We all know correlation doesn’t equal causation. Most of us however, unlike Brandybuck, are capable of moving beyond that meaningless observation into real discussion.

        2. So what about the causation of Trump gathering thousands of people in arenas and encouraging them not to wear masks? Anything? Hello?

          1. They knew the risks.

            Oh wait that only excuses protesters in your mind.

            1. They made an informed decision. The Trump sheep were victims of his evil, because they are stupid. Evil and stupid: vote GOP!

          2. That wasn’t the cause of the spikes.

              1. The Tulsa rally caused spikes in Houston, San Antonio, Austin, Dallas, Albuquerque, the California coast, and Florida? That’s a pretty impressive vector!

                1. Tony actually believes this.

      4. Since when did that stop anyone on the loonie left from claiming correlation is the same as racism?

  8. A judge sent a 15-year-old girl in Michigan to jail for not finishing her homework.

    Is this about the Dems’ absolute devotion to public education or the right’s newfound insistence that kids get back to public schooling?

    Or is it a probation violation? Probably number 3.

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    2. “I told her she was on thin ice and I told her that I was going to hold her to the letter, to the order, of the probation [for assault and theft].”

      1. Are you saying Reason would misrepresent a story?!?

        1. The have been getting bad lately with the click bait headlines and lopsided articles. I wonder if the same group that took over at Drudge is taking over here?

    3. It seems kind of arbitrary to send a kid to jail for something that isn’t a crime while schools are closed and convicted inmates are being furloughed for their own safety.

    4. Haha. Michigan is wacky.

  9. AUDIO: NBA Store Says You Can Buy A ‘KillCops’ Jersey

    1. Not allowed: Free Hong Kong
      Allowed: Fuck Hong Kong

      Here’s what the NBA’s custom store does, doesn’t let you put on their shirts:

      1. Well, that shit’s all made in China, so it’s not a surprise.

        1. LeBron James will be happy to explain how communism is good for capitalism.

      2. Flee Hong Kong?

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    1. If such names were really insulting, Franciscan friars would be outraged at being thus degraded by the San Diego Padres. People of a certain stature would be reeling from the disrespect accorded them by the San Francisco Giants. Animal rights activists would be pressuring various sports franchises to stop degrading and disrespecting Lions and Tigers and Bears (and their Cubs), Eagles, and the like.

      Just a matter of time.

      1. They’re going after the Notre Dame leprechaun now

        1. I’m waiting for Gritty to be demonized. Perhaps as an unsympathetic portrayal of homeless people.

        2. Lucky Charms matter?

        3. Ginger Lives Matter.

      2. Giants are above such petty PC BS.

      3. Leave the Lions and Tigers alone. They have enough problems.

        1. And by the way, what’s up with the “Red Wings”? That’s gotta be code for something racist. Or communist. Or something.

    2. What is the New York hockey team? Chopped liver?

      1. If the Redskins owner had any balls, he would rename them The Washington Marshals after the US Marshal service. The butt hurt and melt down that resulted would likely win back the good will he lost by changing the name in the first place.

        1. If he had any balls, he would change the mascot to a potato.

          1. If he had any balls, his team would still be called the Redskins.

            1. this.

          2. Given their recent history, a potato would be appropriate.

        2. Washington Trumps

          1. Leeches

          2. I first read that as the Washington Turnips.

          3. Washington Orangeskins

            1. Washington Bullets? Maybe we can take it back.

        3. I propose the Washington Generals since they always lose anyway.

      2. yes. go Flyers.

      3. Pretty much.

      1. Lol
        Good timing

      2. Notre Dame Raging Alcoholics

      3. Which is odd because “fighting irish” goes back to the 20’s when the students got into a gang war against the kkk. (the kkk didn’t think Irish catholics should be allowed to get advanced degrees, and wanted nd shut down for being catholic… I’m glad the democrats have changed so much these last 100 years)

        1. History is hard.

      4. “Spud Eaters”

        1. Washington Foreskins has a melodic ring to it.

          1. Okay, Washington Red Foreskins.

  11. LA Teachers Union Demands Defunding Of Police, Medicare-For-All And Ban On New Charter Schools As Conditions For Reopening Schools

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    2. For the children!

    3. Should just call their bluff and keep the schools closed. A lot of parents that use the schools for babysitting are already starting to sweat.

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  12. “If the laws and regulations that determine the terms of abortion access in the United States were based on science—not politics—medication abortion would be widely available in the United States without medically unnecessary restrictions on distribution,”

    Laws not based on politics? Isn’t that an oxymoron?

    1. I don’t understand this quote. Why would the laws being based on science make it more likely abortion medication would be more widely available? What is the science that is misunderstood or ignored?

  13. Remember ‘flatten the curve’, to avoid overwhelming the healthcare system? Wouldn’t states that did that be doing worse now than states that didn’t, according to the graph we all saw in March?

  14. …Sen. Kamala Harris’ “treacherous” attacks on Biden during Democratic presidential debates last summer disqualified her from becoming Biden’s running mate.

    She’ll have to settle for being his truly awful AG.

    1. Don’t believe Tulsi Gabbard’s outrageous lies about her record as a prosecutor.


      1. Whose lies should we believe?

    2. I thought it was her admitting to partaking of the weed.

      1. Cue horrendously awkward pander-laugh.

  15. “John Morgan, a top fundraiser for Joe Biden, told The Daily Beast that Sen. Kamala Harris’ ‘treacherous’ attacks on Biden during Democratic presidential debates last summer disqualified her from becoming Biden’s running mate.”

    That’s disappointing. As a left-libertarian I’m a strong supporter of race-based busing and I’m glad Harris brought it up.


    1. Close enough, Biden threw her under the bus.

    2. Her Wikipedia page is being scrubbed of references to her being a prosecutor.

  16. Apparently the “ancient Chinese proverb” Biden cited tonight at a fundraiser was by…Mao Zedong

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    2. “Foreigners are coming to replace us.”

      -Trump and the KKK

  17. Over the weekend, masked antifa in Portland opened a black man’s car door during a violent protest. Watch how he responded to them

    1. Cloth face covering vs Black Lives Matter? You already know which prevails.

    2. That was hilarious, especially the aftermath of complaints by the lisping soy manlets:

      “Get his license plate!”
      “Hey, he’s got a bow and arrows in the back seat!”

      Based Robin Hood.

      1. You have failed this city!!

      2. How big of a dumb ass do you have to be to go around randomly pulling people out of their cars? These retards have spent their whole lives in their mom’s basement trolling on DU and have no idea what the real world is actually like. They should give this guy a check for giving them the start of an education. Lesson 1; there are a lot of people out there you don’t want to meet much less fuck with.

      3. Antifa getting the shit kicked out of them could replace the NFL as America’s number one spectator sport.

        1. It was a very nice takedown, he’s had some training. Was the driver a LEO? Looked like he was wearing a vest.

          1. Rumor I’d read was that he’s a US Marshal, there to babysit something or other. Probably should’ve had a partner if he wanted to sleep on a surveillance detail.

            LOL at the excuses from the crowd. No, you wanted to take his stuff and fuck with him. Insert Vinnie Jones’s soliloquy from Snatch.

            Definitely not clever.

        2. Make it happen!

        3. I’d fully support this, especially if they cancel the NFL season.

      4. especially the aftermath of complaints by the lisping soy manlets

        I thought maybe you were exaggerating but then I watched the video. You weren’t kidding. Makes me wonder why anyone lets these mentally challenged soy addicts get away with their bullshit, it’s not like any of them are any kind of threat in a physical confrontation. Maybe in large groups they might be dangerous, but based on this video at least, if you slam one of them to the ground the rest will scatter like the spineless little weasels they are.

        1. “…if you slam one of them to the ground the rest will scatter like the spineless little weasels they are.”

          It helps them that, if you do that, their pet law enforcement members will then slam you to the ground. Ask ‘Based Stickman’ or ‘Tiny’.

          They did scatter like the worthless, cowardly hyenas they are though.

        2. Large groups of these idiots is why we need standard capacity magazines.

    3. “We’ve got it on video”

      Lol I’m sure they’re not regretting that at all

  18. Biden quotes Mao, promoted staffer Anita Dunn who said in 2009 Mao was one of her top 2 philosophers.

    1. I’m not as concerned about Biden staffers quoting Mao as I am about progressives everywhere quoting Ocasio-Cortez.

      1. What? You mean killing 1 year old or dads in the middle of the street isnt about stealing bread because they are hungry? You’ve never known poverty if you disagree with her, so you cant talk. She is just connecting the dots.


      2. Which is worse, MAO-C or M-AOC?

        1. Mao is dead.

          AOC could potentially become the Speaker of the House.

    2. That wasn’t Mao. That was Lenin. Or Lennon.

        1. “Are you dumb?”

          That’s trueman; no need to ask.

          1. “That’s trueman; no need to ask.”

            If it’s me, you always need to ask. My sage advice: Never take anything at face value, Sevo.

        2. “Are you dumb?”

          I’m pulling your leg. The same quote comes from ‘Woman,’ a song written by John Lennon, a member of the pop group, The Beatles.

      1. I am the walrus?

        1. But if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao
          You ain’t going to make it with anyone anyhow
          Don’t you know know it’s gonna be alright

  19. But mifepristone, which for medication abortion goes by the brand name Mifeprex, is among the most restricted drugs in the U.S. which makes it challenging to get. … the Food and Drug Administration imposes tighter restrictions on Mifeprex than on opioids such as fentanyl.”

    Great news! Based on the recent supreme court decision regarding sex discrimination, men must be allowed to access the less dangerous opiods by the web. Right?

  20. A new television series based on the classic dystopian novel Brave New World debuts Wednesday.

    Liberals set up groups to compare notes on how to proceed in politics.

    How long until the left dictates dystopian is a racist term and shouldnt be used in describing their road map?

    1. We need a reboot of “The Crucible”
      “I saw Goody Proctor tweeting racist ,homophobic and sexists thoughts with the Devil”.

  21. …”in-person requirements” for abortion pills present a “substantial obstacle” to patients and are likely unconstitutional.

    These televisits will make spectacularly tasteful TikTok videos.

    1. What happens after taking the pills would also be tasteful, not to mention an absolute laugh riot. /sarc

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  23. More people died with coronavirus in New York City (population 8 million) than Texas (29 mil), Florida (21 mil), California (39 mil) and Georgia (11 mil) … combined.

    1. What part of “shut it down” don’t you understand?

    2. Geez! Let a guy make one little mistake and it gets treated like he killed off all the old people.

    3. And the spread of a contagion can’t have anything to do with population density. It must be Demonrats who… uh… took too many precautions? Maybe it’s just their mere presence. The existence of a D party registration card makes the virus 10 times more potent. It’s jus’ science.


    Vaccine production to start by end of summer. If this turns out to be true, it will be a technical achievement on par with the Manhattan Project. And if it comes before the election, the panic and butt hurt among the maskeratti will be epic.

    1. And yet a new study from India shows HCQ is useful as a much cheaper prophylactic.

      1. Yes but no one gets rich selling a common, cheap drug whose patent has long since expired. If paying off the drug companies is the price of ending this lunacy, it is a price I am willing to pay, though I admit it would be better if we didn’t have to do so.

        1. By the way, the Lancet study that was anti HCQ was also quietly retracted over the weekend. Think that is 2 retracted studies that Bailey now has promoted.

          1. Bailey will literally believe anything as long as it is told to him by a guy wearing a lab coat. The guy is completely incapable of skepticism as long as the assertion is coated in “science”.

            1. I don’t know if that’s necessarily fair to Bailey. His thing is really just reporting on what the studies are saying, but from what I’ve seen he doesn’t necessarily draw authoritative conclusions from them. He’s reported on pro-HCQ studies, too.

              1. He has bought things like the wonders of a cashless society and robot cars hook line and sinker.

              2. His thing is really just reporting on what the studies are saying,

                Do this enough and you stop being a science journalist and become more of a regular journalist. Or even just a parrot.

              3. Bailey ventured into threads where many of the commentariat would point put issues regarding these studies. Bailey defended the studies against the issues. He owns it

          2. Think that is 2 retracted studies that Bailey now has promoted.

            You need a couple more conditionals like ‘related to HCQ and COVID in the last month’.

        2. If paying off the drug companies is the price of ending this lunacy

          Fast-forward to December: “Despite heroic efforts, none of the efforts has panned out, and the companies are requesting additional funds to continue their research into the elusive vaccine.”

          1. They will know if the vaccine work before producing them. That is why they are doing trials. They are in phase two trials with 30,000 subjects.

            1. IIRC, one company is mass producing on a hunch, in parallel to the trials.

              1. They are buying the raw materials to be ready to produce if it works. They are not mass producing anything yet.

                1. The liability limitations on something like this, have got to be staggering.

                  I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see the Feds fully indemnify the companies that have researched this, will produce it, and the healthcare workers who’ll be sticking it into people.

        3. If paying off the drug companies is the price of ending this lunacy, it is a price I am willing to pay

          So long as the vaccine isn’t mandatory and/or they start pushing the whole “vaccine passport” nonsense that makes it essentially mandatory in order to go back living your normal life, maybe. But something tells me they’re not going to be content with just producing a vaccine and then letting people make their own decisions on whether or not to take it.

      2. Who wants a cheaper prophylactic when you can get abortion pills on demand now?

    2. If this turns out to be true, it will be a technical logistical scientific achievement on par with the Manhattan Project.

      It will depend a bit on the vaccine but vaccines have been a common technique for preventing infectious diseases for several decades. The techniques perfected during the Manhattan Project largely didn’t exist prior.

      1. Actually very similar. The Manhattan project was an engineering project. Very little new science was done. The science was known. The challenge was the engineering, much like this.

        1. The science existed in theory. The techniques did not. We eradicated polio 30 yrs. ago and smallpox before that. The very first self-sustaining nuclear chain reactor was constructed by Fermi as part of the project. Nothing like it existed prior. A big part of the phenomenon of the project was that even the more fundamental calculations about required compounds, masses, and facilities were orders-of-magnitude guesses. The Manhattan Project ushered in the Nuclear Age. There was effectively no Cesium-137 or Strontium-90 on Earth prior to the Manhattan Project.

          I’d absolutely give you that the vaccine would rival the achievement/benefit/novelty of sequencing the genome or cloning, but The Manhattan Project was just too big *and* too novel for comparison.

          1. Fair enough.

          2. “I’d absolutely give you that the vaccine would rival the achievement/benefit/novelty of sequencing the genome or cloning, but The Manhattan Project was just too big *and* too novel for comparison.”

            What I found staggering, was that the contemporaneous B-29 project required even more resources, people, and cash than did the A-Bomb.

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    4. National Nuclear Energy Series

      Its a technical reference for all of the things that were used/developed for the Manhatten project

    5. I would prefer that they wait until it has been proved safe and effective.
      By real doctors, not political hacks in rented lab coats.

      1. So would I but there is no dealing with these retards. I am tired of living in a police state.

    6. So, in other words, wait for the epic meltdown and panic inducing headlines about how ‘risky’ the vaccine is and how we need a year of testing before it should be administered?

      1. But mandate requirements 6 months before that. Gotta stay ahead of this shit.

  25. Watch the local Detroit news report. They reported that witnesses claimed the man killed by police was unarmed and on his knees. The video clearly showed he was shooting at police before being fired upon. Is the news media trying to invite violence?

    1. “Your lying eyes should learn to code” – News Media

    2. Maybe they graduated from the Saeed al-Sahaf School of Journalism. You might recall that Baghdad Bob demonstrated exceptional creative (and truth-denying) ability during Desert Storm.

      1. Baghdad Bob is too honest and pro-american to work for most media outlets.

    3. “Hands up, don’t shoot!”

      Riots are better ratings than not-riots.

  26. Cicely Belle Blain, the cofounder of Black Lives Matter Vancouver, wants to “problematize” the concepts of reliability and loyalty, because high standards, enthusiasm, and consistency are products of capitalist white supremacy.

    1. “Meet my needs. Then I’ll do a good job.”

      It’s simple common-sense fairness.

    2. OMG, does she really want to connect black people with lazy and shiftless?

      1. Critical theory already argues schedules and time are racist.

        1. Time is a theoretical construct developed by white physicists.

    3. Looks like Canada is about to go through its own Mugabization.

    4. >>Black Lives Matter Vancouver

      all seven of them.


    In the latest John Zogby Strategies and EMI Research Solutions poll, Biden has the support of 77% of black voters while 14% back President Trump.

    IF Trump get’s 14% of the black vote, he wins in a near landslide. Everyone is rightly skeptical of these polls that show Trump getting support in the black community. But, when is the last time a poll showed he wasn’t getting large support for a Republican?

    1. LOL

      Literally all my friends of color are incredibly enthusiastic about voting for Biden.

      1. Like you have any friends.

      2. Hey now! Just look upthread. “Enthusiasm” is a “product of capitalist white supremacy”!

        OBL, I’m afraid your “friends of color” “literally” ain’t black. Sorry, brah.

    2. You know John, Candidate Trump got 8% of the black vote and 29% of the hispanic vote in 2016.

      All he really needs to do is 10% of the black vote (mostly, he needs to do better with black women, age 30-64) and 33% of the hispanic vote (do better with hispanic aged 65+). Then it is game over for brain-damaged Biden.

      I don’t think those numbers are out of reach (10%, 33%).

      1. i think those numbers are virtually certain. The question is does he get to 15% or more of the black vote.

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    3. Trump getting 14% of the black vote is sheer fantasy. The Republicans haven’t gotten that much since 1976. During Reagan’s landslide in 1984, blacks were 9% of the vote. And with the media doing its best to incite a race war to keep the ratings up, the chances of Trump even getting double digits is almost non-existent.

      1. Poll after poll says otherwise. And the race riots are not playing that well in the black community. This isn’t 1968. These riots are at least half white people. I don’t think woke white people showing up and terrorizing and trying to burn down black neighborhoods is inspiring a lot of enthusiasm in the black community.

        Also, remember, a lot of black people are cops and serve in the military. So, all this defund the police bullshit isn’t playing with them. I don’t think the race war bullshit is going to help Biden with the black vote at all.

        1. A study on the colorado and california riots said 60% were white with many African Americans pissed off their movement was being taken over by whites.

      2. Trump getting 14% of the black vote is sheer fantasy.

        I wouldn’t be so sure. In addition to white trust fund baby Red Guard cosplayers (aka antifa) co-opting the BLM movement as an excuse to attempt some kind of cultural revolution and quite a few black people being “red pilled” and waking up (pun intended) to the fact that the MSM and Democratic Party (but I repeat myself) view their votes as belonging to them while also pandering to the idiot red guard cosplayers, I think there’s a decent chance Trump at least gets 10%. Although I think it’s more likely that the black voter turnout will be low, which the media will claim is due to “voter suppression” by those EVUL RETHUGLIKKKANZ, but those that do turn out will most likely vote Trump in larger numbers than many expect, which will also be blamed on EVUL RETHUGLIKKKANZ cheating to win (if Trump wins – if he loses they’ll just ignore the black vote numbers because they really don’t care about black voters except in so far as they can use them to push a narrative).

        1. I’m rating this comment as “optimistic,” but we’ll see.

  28. O/T…In other news, Danial Lee, convicted murderer, is now starting his transition to fertilizer. The murderous SOB is dead. Glad the AG grew a pair and approved the execution.

    After all, how many times have we been told: Justice delayed is justice denied!

  29. The Far Left and Far Right hates Poland because they’re one of the only countries on Earth that have suffered enough Fascism and Communism to know they’re the same Socialist shit with different branding.

    1. If things go full woke tits up in the US, I am retiring to either Poland or Hungary. They seem to be the last lights of Western Civilization on earth.

      1. Is taking down a racist statue going to give you the flutters? What are you afraid of, exactly? Do you even know?

        1. You mean like that racist elk in Portland? Or do you mean the racist memorial to the black infantry regiment in the Civil War they vandalized? You mean like that Tony?

          1. On the other hand, they’re just statues and your president is killing living Americans by the tens of thousands.

            Gee I wonder why he might want you focused on a lame culture war fake crisis.

            1. The President hasn’t killed anyone. Antifa and BLM kill people nearly every day.

              1. See what’s funny is you’re blaming any death that happened near a BLM protest, whether it was related or not, ON Antifa and BLM (groups that have nothing to do with each other anyway), while Trump can have a deliberate policy of increasing risk in all of America that is killing Americans, and he gets off scot free, because you’re a terrible person.

                1. No, Tony, these deaths happen at these protests. Stop lying.

  30. November’s presidential election, in my view, will rest heavily (as many others have) on the votes of suburban #women.

    This new
    confirms suburban women hugely oppose importing foreign labor, especially as our economy struggles:

  31. More bad economic news.

    Charles Koch only earned $257,000,000 yesterday.

    Look, just because Jeff Bezos has found a way to prosper in this high-tariff / low-immigration #DrumpfDepression, you can’t expect Mr. Koch to do the same. He desperately needs an influx of highly skilled labor from Mexico.


    1. There is no highly skilled MX labor. OTOH, maybe Koch cam make do with some KungFlu infected day laborers.


      1. “There is no highly skilled MX labor.”

        Disagree, at least in Ag. Probably true in the trades as well.

  32. Hmm, Reason still not reporting on issues with the LP candidate.


      1. I’d think the LP candidate coming out as woke and insisting we must be more than non-racist but, instead, actively anti-racist would raise some flags.

        She even did it on Twitter which is an obsession for the writers here.

        1. She used the term anti-racist, which is directly from critical race theory.

    1. From what I saw from a few of their Twitter, they’re more interested in voting Biden.

      1. That’s pretty pathetic that the Libertarian Party candidate can’t gin up enthusiasm from writers for a libertarian magazine. Maybe that’s why she went Full Woke.

    2. LP candidate? Is the LP party running a candidate?
      Damn. Whodathunkit.
      Maybe we should all find a Libertarian web site that covers this momentous event.
      First one to figure out where that is, please post here.

    3. Given her issues, she shouldn’t be the LP candidate.

    More than 100,000 mail-in ballots were rejected by California election officials during the March presidential primary, according to data obtained by The Associated Press that highlights a glaring gap in the state’s effort to ensure every vote is counted.

    1. Wisconsin’s Vote-By-Mail Looked Bad. It Was Actually Worse

      Digging into the details of the IG’s report, this was more than just a case of a few random errors. In Fox Valley, they tracked three “mail tubs” full of ballots, totaling nearly 750 of them, that didn’t reach the voters in time for them to be legally filled out and returned. That debacle seems to have involved the postal service’s use of a third-party vendor to handle some of the workload. They didn’t deliver the ballots to the local post offices for delivery until 6 pm on the night before the election. And that wasn’t even all of them. The state Election Commission said that the number was closer to 1,600 ballots that failed to arrive in time just from that one district.

      In Fox Point (not to be confused with Fox Valley), one mail carrier was found to have taken hundreds of blank ballots and delivered them to the County Election Office rather than to the homes of the voters who requested them. Apparently the address labels all said “Village of Fox Point” in bold letters above the name of the voter, so the carrier because confused. By the time the error was recognized, it was too late to correct the situation.

      1. In GA, a woman’s dead cat was sent a voter registration form

        1. By the democratic bundler?

        2. It voted the straight D ticket.

  34. The 99% of the BLM supporters who are hateful, scum give the other 1% a bad name

    Sending vicious messages to a teenage girl whose father was murdered and posted a tribute to him on line. That pretty much sums up who the woke left are. They are just garbage.

    1. Yeah, those wastes of carbon do not qualify as human for shit like that.

    2. Savannah Chavez, the grieving daughter of Officer Ismael Chavez

      Nothing says ‘secret racist/white supremacist’ like the name ‘Ismael Chavez’.

      1. She is a white Hispanic like that Zimmerman guy.

        1. No True Hispanic?

    3. BLM supporters also posted messages on Jessica Whitaker’s Facebook page mocking her and her family.

      Every BLM protestor and supporter deserves an impact munition to the face.

      1. Where are the usual trolls to come along and excuse and defend them?

        1. They usually show up after lunch.

          1. Yay, identity spoofing!

            If the owners of this site wanted to kill the discussion boards, without overtly doing it, that identity mimicking crap is a great way to do it.

            1. So someone stole your trolling account is what you’re saying.

            2. Gray_Jay
              July.14.2020 at 12:00 pm
              Yay, identity spoofing!

              Entirely different group of people, fuckwit.

    4. The invective hurled at the Blue Line Bears young lady, was pretty awful too.

      I cited legalinsurrection for the story because, despite this young woman getting a parade from her town in May for her work, no more ‘reputable’ media site decided to mention the threats she was getting very recently. Our professional journalism class has some very serious problems within it.

      1. It’s why I have such difficulty giving a shit about their profession.

    5. Conservatives are never rude or inappropriate on the internet, by contrast. Certainly not to black people or BLM protesters. Perfect gentlemen, all of you.

      1. “Conservatives are never rude or inappropriate on the internet,”


      2. Conservatives never are cruel and nasty to a teenage girl who lost her father. Only scum like you are.

        1. Donald fucking Trump roasted the parents of a dead soldier during his fucking campaign.

          1. No he didn’t. Stop making shit up. This is the shit that the left does. It is who you people are. You are all just broken, nasty, ignorant scum.

            1. Greta Thunberg is a teenager. Have conservatives been polite to her? No <a href=""death threats?

              Maybe don’t make such obviously absurd statements.

              “Trump’s [Khizr and Ghazala Khan] comments sparked widespread outrage and condemnation from both Democrats and Republicans.”
              “Republican Senator Susan Collins of Maine cited Trump’s treatment of the Khans as one of the major reasons why she ‘will not be voting for Donald Trump for president.'”

              1. Did she lose her father? It is not that she is a teenager. It is that her father was murdered and people attacked her for putting up a tribute to him.

                Greta Thunberg is an autistic fanatic.

                Nice that you admitted you lied and made up the other story.

  35. Year 0, welcome to the Paris Commune. Who wants to be Napoleon and plunge us into decades of wars?

    Don’t Stop at Statues. Demand a Reconsideration of Place Names Too

    1. And churches with depictions of “white Jesus”. These people are animals.

    2. “They only want to remove Confederate statues. How can you oppose that?”

      1. Oh, I don’t know – maybe a family history that goes back to 1619, when indentured servants arrived in Jamestown, along with zero slaves?

        At this time (1665), there were only about 300 people of African origin living in the Virginia Colony, about 1% of an estimated population of 30,000. The first group of 20 or so Africans were brought to Jamestown in 1619 as indentured servants. After working out their contracts for passage money to Virginia and completing their indenture, each was granted 50 acres (20 ha) of land (headrights). This enabled them to raise their own tobacco or other crops.
        In one of the earliest freedom suits, Casor argued that he was an indentured servant who had been forced by Anthony Johnson, a free black, to serve past his term; he was freed and went to work for Robert Parker as an indentured servant. Johnson sued Parker for Casor’s services. In ordering Casor returned to his master, Johnson, for life, the court both declared Casor a slave and sustained the right of free blacks to own slaves.

        Damned inconvenient, those old court records.


    “Impact munitions”
    Odd terminology for the press to adopt en masse all of a sudden

    1. Talking points are a wonderful thing.

      1. I see professional media members learned their lesson from the various Journolist scandals…

    2. That mother should have raised her son properly, or he wouldn’t have ended up spitting up blood after getting conked in the face with a bean bag.

      1. Learn how to duck?

    3. A general phrase that includes bricks, molotov cocktails, frozen water bottles, etc.

    4. Reminds me of “kinetic action”.


    “[L]iterally, the most sought-after group in the world [became] 14-year-old girls — what music do they want…what was the fashion like. Well, now the news has gone along with the demo. And now they’re playing to young, dumb people who…have just got out of college. Their brains are mush. They’re malleable. And somehow, we’re gonna cater to them. We’re gonna build this world around young, dumb people.”

      Pelosi on Columbus statue being pulled down by protesters – “People are going to do what they’re going to do.” Can I get that in writing for when I want to drink a beer on the beach or put a second floor on my house without big government bullshit?

    2. Has Carolla been asleep for most of his life, or does he just have no awareness of the industry that he joined? Western culture and especially mass media has literally been pandering to young, stupid people for at least the last 70 years.

      1. Adam “The Man Show” + “Crank Yankers” Carolla discovers that the media panders to young, dumb people? That must have come as quite the shock…

  38. Teenage daughter of one of two Texas cops shot dead in ambush deletes emotional tribute to her ‘hero’ father after backlash for using #bluelivesmatter in the post
    The daughter of a Texas cop killed in an ambush Saturday was slammed for including #bluelivesmatter in a tribute post to her father
    Savannah Chavez, the grieving daughter of Officer Ismael Chavez, 39 – one of two cops fatally gunned down in McAllen – uploaded the post hours after he died
    Within minutes, Savannah began receiving messages from people online criticizing her for using a ‘racist’ hashtag
    ‘Being a cop is a choice … and last time I checked, blue people don’t exist. Maybe educate yourself?’ one person said
    One respondent appeared to insist her father’s death was his choosing: ‘may your father rest in peace. I’m sorry for your loss, but this was his choice #blm’
    Savannah later deleted the post because of the onslaught of critical messages

    1. Yea, those people deserve execution
      Harsh, but true

    2. last time I checked, blue people don’t exist. Maybe educate yourself?’ one person said

      “Black people, on the other hand, are everywhere.”

      1. The Blue Man Group was very offended by that statement.

      2. Papa Smurf hardest hit.

    3. Lovely people, these Marxists.
      I am sure this is an isolated incident, as there have never been millions of people killed by Marxists.

    4. >>The daughter of a Texas cop killed in an ambush Saturday was slammed for including #bluelivesmatter

      that’s fucking wrong.


    Chance is sticking w/Ye despite the internet pressure, but the results of this poll aren’t good

    1. Think of the trash that occupies twitter then realize they only got slightly better than a coinflip.

    The NBA is taking of billions of dollars from modern-day Nazis. China has Muslims in concentration camps. China has forced slave labor. China has no basic human rights. China is a totalitarian regime and is expanding its influence around the globe.

    1. Both political parties have had their tongues firmly up China’s ass going back to Nixon. You think they really give a shit as long as the checks keep clearing?

  41. Gun sales continue to climb to new highs, and the people driving those sales continue to be atypical first-time gun buyers.

    :Among the new buyers are people who say they never thought they would own a firearm and were previously critical of those who did.

    John Kingdon, 42, has marched and signed petitions for gun control, spurred by the 2012 mass shooting at a movie theater in Colorado and another at a gay nightclub in Orlando in 2016. But in May, the registered Democrat who lives in the Denver area bought a Sig Sauer P320 semiautomatic pistol online for around $550.


    “Record Numbers of Americans Try to Buy Guns”

    Some of the interesting statistics:

    -40% of gun sales are still going to first time buyers.

    -The states seeing the larger surge in buyers appear to be those where there were riots.

    “Background checks for guns in Georgia tripled last month versus last year, according to NSSF data, and have more than doubled in Oklahoma, New York, Illinois and Minnesota.”

    Nearly two handguns, commonly used for self-protection, are being sold for every rifle [AR-15!] or shotgun, according to federal data.

    Moral of the story, when the media goes so completely off the rails that they appear to be cheer leading for everything from destroying our national monuments to looting and arson, don’t rely on them as an accurate gauge for public opinion.

    Market signals. Libertarian capitalists understand the importance of market data rather than “news”.

    If gun sales are surging twice as high as they usually are in Democrat strongholds like California, Illinois, Minnesota, and New York and the surge is driven by first time buyers who are racially diverse and include women among them, then what does that say about the media narrative and their support for these “protests”–not only in those Democrat strongholds but also in the rest of America?

    New gun owners who previously deplored gun ownership are probably just the tip of the iceberg.

    1. Can’t read paywalled WSJ article. Did it say why the gun control dude bought a pistol? Maybe he has been frightened to death by reports of roaming white supremacists looting stores and conducting home invasions or boogaloo boys about to fire on Ft. Sumter.

      1. “If I had a hard time getting police to respond to me when we weren’t in a pandemic, what about now?” he said.

        That’s one guy. We can only speculate on the motives of first time gun buyers as a group of millions of individuals, but if our hypothesis doesn’t assume that this has something to do with the protests, looting, arson, calls to defund the police, and the pandemic, then our hypothesis is probably off–considering the rest of the data. Again, sales are surging in states that had those things happen.

        In other words, the data pretty much speaks for itself

        —-Background checks for gun purchases have more than doubled in Illinois, Minnesota, and New York, and have almost doubled in California.

        —-40% of the buyers are firs time gun buyers.

        —-Surges in the aftermath of mass shootings usually feature runs on AR-15s, but these sales are all about handguns–which would be expected if the buyers were people who find black rifles with magazines frightening.

        Put this all together, and seems like we’ve got a whole lot of registered Democrats and committed independents putting their hard-earned money down in ways that look a lot like Republicans on the issue of gun rights. A significant number of people in places like California, Illinois, Minnesota, and New York appear to be changing their thinking on these issues–and if their thinking is changing in reaction to the riots (and the left’s reaction to them), then what do you think is happening to the opinions of independents and registered Democrats in Florida, Michigan, Ohio, western Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, which are important swing states?

        This is a data point where reality doesn’t seem to be matching the media narrative.

        1. Not buying at this time, but curious.
          Does the fantasy term “high capacity magazine” apply to the 13 and 14 round double stack pistols? That may be why. If you can get 14 rounds in a handy package, why get a 10 round awkward to use indoors rifle?

          1. “Does the fantasy term “high capacity magazine” apply to the 13 and 14 round double stack pistols?”

            It did in the past, which is why 10-round CA-compliant magazines were a thing. And people carried .45s. I still miss my Glock 30.

            1. Springfield XD in .45 is a great edc gun.

          2. Depends on state, here in Colorado 15 is the demarcation line for “high capacity”. No distinction between handguns and rifles, although I think shotgun mags can only be 8 (maybe 10?). So if you can have a 15 round pistol mag, you could have one for your rifle too if you could find one.

            It’s all pointless since rebuild kits for standard capacity magazines are available at every gun store, and possession of standard capacity magazines isn’t illegal; only transferring them is.

            1. I think it’s interesting that people are opting for handguns over shotguns in a civil disturbance situation.

              If a lot of these first time buyers are women or single women, it wouldn’t surprise me if they thought they couldn’t handle the kick of shotgun–whether or not they actually can.

              It also seems that first time gun buyers imagine that smaller guns are easier to fire, but that, of course, isn’t the case. A small and light pistol is probably the hardest to fire accurately. GTW 9 mm pistols don’t kick like something small and slender that fits nicely into a purse. If that’s why the smaller guns are selling, we may see not just more previously non-gun owners buying but also understanding why high capacities on handguns aren’t necessarily more dangerous to society.

              1. I think it’s mostly that these aren’t “gun people”. A shotgun takes up more space and is more visible in your home. The handgun though, that can be tucked safely in your nightstand and forgotten about. No visible reminder that you were wrong about gun control for years.

                That isn’t how guns should work of course, you should be proficient with any gun you think could be used defensively. That’s something “gun people” understand that a lot of first time buyers don’t because all their gun knowledge comes from television. Just having the gun makes them feel better about the situation, the thought that they have no idea how to actually use it never crosses their mind.

                The St Louis couple is a perfect example. They had every right to draw guns on the angry mob outside their home, but it was clear they had absolutely no idea how to use those guns.

        2. I don’t know what Kingdon is so worried about. He lives in one of the whitest, wealthiest areas of the Denver metro. If he lived in Westminster or Thornton, I could see why he might be concerned.

        3. My mom is in her 70’s a staunch Bernie supporter and mentioned to me that she wants to get a .38 to come shooting with us. She’s never owned a gun before but the current climate has made even her who I’d never have thought want one.

          1. Get her some instruction, MT-man.

            The ‘petting zoo’ trend in upper end gun stores—especially if they’ve an attached range with rentals—has gotten rid of a lot of the trial and error in finding newbies the handgun that they like and can use.

            The Ladysmith .38s were big sellers for a good reason. Welcome to the hobby.

            1. It’s not a hobby asshole.

              1. You prefer the term fetish.

      2. P.S. Don’t forget about the Wayback Machine.

    What we are looking at is roughly 5300 people admitted to AZ hospitals with confirmed or suspected COVID, and 12,803 discharged with confirmed or suspected COVID.

    That means 2.4 times more people left the hospital with COVID than went in with it.

  43. Telemedicine Abortion

    Nice band name.

  44. John Morgan, a top fundraiser for Joe Biden, told The Daily Beast that Sen. Kamala Harris’ “treacherous” attacks on Biden during Democratic presidential debates last summer disqualified her from becoming Biden’s running mate. “She didn’t stab him in the back—she stabbed him in the heart,” Morgan said.

    Awe, poor wittle Senile Joe. Baby want his binky?

    1. Well, can we take this as confirming he actually has a heart?

  45. Cool. If we can buy abortion drugs through the mail, and across state lines, can we go back to the same freedom for guns and ammo?

  46. Allow “telemedicine” prescribing of ordinary birth control pills. Then we won’t need the mifeprex!

    Oh well, why do we even need the prescription? Sell birth control over the counter! An by “over the counter” I mean mail order in the time of pandemic. Women have been having dangerous abortions for thousands of years, but in the past century we have developed safe and effective birth control. Why are we denying that to women? It’s like we WANT the abortions or something.

    Free the pill!

    1. You can get prescription drugs buy mail. Birth control or boner pills, you call them, talk to a ‘doctor’, get an Rx, and get your pills mailed to you.

  47. A judge sent a 15-year-old girl in Michigan to jail for not finishing her homework.

    No, a judge sentenced the girl for violating her probation after assaulting her mother and stealing a cell phone. Now you know the rest of the story.

    1. Maybe her homework was to not assault or steal.

      1. It had probably more penology relation to her crimes and rehabilitation, than the ubiquitous ‘no booze’ provision does for adult probationers.

        Probation sucks, and the de facto purpose of it is to keep the probationer paying money to the city, county, and/or state as long as possible.

    2. In normal times, school attendance and signs of progress is almost always part of the probation requirements for children of school age. The judge could not require attending school when it’s closed, but did require on-line schooling in its place – and this brat blew that off. Violate the terms of your probation and go to jail. (And the mother finally gets some peace.)

  48. We come over here, in my case because my parents chose that I would not be indoctrinated by the communist country, by the totalitarian country, by the totalitarian regime. They don’t educate children. Absolutely not. And this is something that we need to understand. What is happening in our backyard today, I experienced as an 11-year-old. I remember vividly all the promises that a guy named Castro gave, and how 99 percent of the people swallowed the pill,”

    “It took many years later, after I read somebody named Saul Alinsky, that I realized that all those people were nothing but useful idiots. I remember Castro while in the mountains being interviewed and asked if he was a communist. He went crazy. … He was going to save Cuba. I remember how he promised to the farmers, to the wahitos that you’re going to own the land. I remember all the promises that we hear today about free education and free health care and free land,”

    Alvarez reminded people that Fidel Castro abolished the police, the military and even took over the Catholic church. The immigrant’s dad, however, saw through Castro’s words because he experienced the same thing under communist Spain. Alvarez’s father saw parallel’s between Castro and his home country.

    The businessman explained that the left uses fancy terms and promises to try and indoctrinate others. It’s the same tactics he saw in Cuba.

    Never forget about my dad who only had a sixth-grade education, but I think he was the greatest philosopher I ever met. He used to tell us how lucky he was because he was able to come from Spain to Cuba. And then he came from Cuba to [the] United States and he saw me graduate from college, and that was the biggest prize he ever had. And he said, ‘Don’t lose this place because you’re never going to be as lucky as me. Because if you lose this place, you have no place to go,’”

    “So with that, please keep that in mind. And please, people, explain that to our young people who are demonstrating out there. Don’t be useful idiots, Please understand what’s happening in our country. See what happens to our parents and see what is happening to America today.”

    Cuban immigrant Maximo Alvarez

    1. What do they know, does his father have a degree in Communications from San Jose Tech?

    2. I don’t think it’s that the communists lie about what they plan to do before they inflict their communism on the country.

      I think it’s that they don’t understand economics, and they really believe what they say about what will happen–out of ignorance.

      Once you set the price of bread below the market price, the bakers go out of business. To keep bread on the shelves, you need to nationalize the bakers. To keep the bread selling below market prices, you need to fix the price of wheat below market. Setting the price of wheat below market means the farmers won’t grow it–so then you need to nationalize the farms. Now that food production is insulated from market driven pricing, food production falls through the floor. If you want to stay in power after that, you need to get brutal.

      People like Castro, Che Guevara, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and Bernie Sanders genuinely believe that their revolutions will be different from the ones in Cambodia, China, Russia, and Venezuela because their motives are pure–and they genuinely care about the people. They’re ignorant about the central importance of markets in creating a sustainable and growing economy, and they’re evil in that they’re willing to violate people’s right to make choices for themselves in the pursuit of an egalitarian economy. But they don’t realize that what they’re doing is sure to lead to ruin. It just seems that way.

      Once they decide to set prices below market on a wide enough scale and enforce those prices with the coercive power of the state, all their other choices are made for them–except the choice to reverse course (to a certain extent), like Gorbachev or Deng Xiaoping did. But those choices weren’t made by the people who ushered in the socialism. Those choices were made by the next generation who had to clean up the messes made by the first generation to institute socialism.

      1. Leftists, be they Hitler, Mao, Lenin or Pot usually don’t lie about what they plan to do. The useful idiots just convince themselves the monsters don’t really mean it.

        1. Whether we respect people’s agency is the difference between right and wrong, and good and evil. It’s the difference between sex and rape, theft and borrowing,

          The totalitarians you mentioned were evil because they purposely intended to ignore people’s agency. Purposely violating our obligation to respect other people’s right to make choices for themselves is inherent to the definition of evil, whether you’re talking about philosophical ethics, constitutional law, or the ten commandments.

          In all of those cases–including Hitler–they genuinely believed that what they were doing was in the best interests of the majority of the people–and they rationalized the evil things they did on that basis. To the extent that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Bernie Sanders, Green New Deal proponents, Medicare for All advocates, and progressives everywhere believe that violating the rights of some people will genuinely result in consequences that are in the best interests of the majority–and advocate doing it for that reason–they are exactly like Hitler, Mao, and Pol Pot in that regard.

          It is hard for moral people (who take their obligation to respect other people’s freedom to make choices for themselves seriously) to see immoral people violate other people’s rights and see that their motives are pure in the sense that they believe what they’re doing is for the greater good, but that’s the way it is.

          I had the hardest time getting the immigrant Muslims I knew in Los Angeles to understand that, among the Americans who supported bombing, invading, and occupying Iraq, plenty of them genuinely believed that what we were doing was in the best interests of the Iraqi people. You can say the same thing about plenty of suburban white liberals in the 1980s and 1990s, who genuinely believed that they were saving the African-American community from the scourge of marijuana by sending Daryl Gates’ LAPD into south Central Los Angeles like a military invasion force.

          The essential equation here is that violating other people’s rights is the definition of evil, and doing so because you believe violating other people’s rights is in the best interests of society doesn’t make it any less evil. Violating other people’s rights is evil even if you’re doing it because you genuinely care about other people.

          1. How many progressives out there believe that violating other people’s rights is okay because they genuinely care about African-Americans, the environment, the LGBT community, and immigrants?

            Isn’t it all of them?

            Using the coercive power of the state to violate some people’s rights in the name of a greater good, Isn’t that more or less the very definition of progressivism and isn’t that more or less our problem with them?

            That’s not only why they insist on violating our First and Second Amendment rights but also why they assault capitalism in the form of the Green New Deal and Medicare for All.

            The thing that makes them evil is the same thing that makes all authoritarians evil and having genuinely pure motives to rationalize their evil doesn’t make them any different from the authoritarians and totalitarians you mentioned either.

            Telling them that their pure motives don’t justify their evil is probably essential to countering their influence.

            1. So you don’t want the government to interfere with a woman’s right to an abortion, for the greater good?

              You should be better than the circular reasoning of this post, but you try so, so hard to be a partisan sheep that you just can’t get there.

              1. “So you don’t want the government to interfere with a woman’s right to an abortion”

                It would have to exist first.

                1. It does exist, for now.

      2. They’re ignorant about the central importance of markets in creating a sustainable and growing economy,

        IMO, even this assessment lends to their mentality quite a bit. Markets aren’t centrally important, they’re fundamentally inevitable. Seizing a bakery or a field to control the price of bread or grain is like seizing a pile of dirt to control the effect of gravity or entropy. Maybe you can do it for a year or a decade but, eventually, forces that used to be handled naturally will weigh you down and erode your control.

  49. >>women seeking abortion pills during the COVID-19 pandemic should not have to visit a doctor in order to obtain them

    Karen free to murder.

  50. The Atlas of Surveillance is alive! After 18 months and hundreds of student and volunteer researchers, @EFF and @RSJNevada have released a map and database of more than 5,300 surveillance technologies in use across the United States.

    Mostly shows municipalities where cops have body cams.

    And in my county, the sheriff charges a fee for FOIA requests for cam footage. Because they have nothing to hide.

  51. I’m enjoying this account greatly
    We can’t just not be for the economy. We have to be actively anti-economy.

    1. resits trump? Crews shutting down Chance was funny.

  52. Disgusting: Democrats Are Running a Massive Protection Racket in 2020, Not a Campaign

    All we have to do is elect Democrats this fall, and as surely as night follows day, they promise that the destruction will come to a stop.

    That’s a protection racket.

    What about #DefundThePolice? As I’ve written before, the genius of creating police departments is that it democratized (at least ideally) law enforcement by making it available to anyone able to contact the police. If the Democrats succeed in defunding the police in our blue cities, police protection will go to those with political pull over their local blue-city Democrat.

    That’s another protection racket.

    1. Your shitty rightwing propaganda site is paid only, so could you summarize? I get the impression that Democrats having a campaign platform is some kind of sin in their mind.

      You want to talk about corrupt campaigning, have you checked to see whether Trump has solicited the help of foreign adversaries again?

      1. “Tony
        July.14.2020 at 2:08 pm
        Your shitty rightwing propaganda site”


        “is paid only, so could you summarize?”

        Tony everyone, he can’t read it but he still knows all about it.

        1. I know that you think the guy posting shitty rightwing propaganda articles by the hundreds here is presenting an honest and unbiased overview of the facts in the world right now.

  53. John Morgan, a top fundraiser for Joe Biden, told The Daily Beast that Sen. Kamala Harris’ “treacherous” attacks on Biden during Democratic presidential debates last summer disqualified her from becoming Biden’s running mate. “She didn’t stab him in the back—she stabbed him in the heart,” Morgan said.

    oh no! What a shame.

    1. Meanwhile, Joe Biden doesn’t need any help in California.

  54. The ‘fight to save lives’ during this pandemic really should not get in the way of women killing their children.

    1. #UnbornLivesDon’tMatter

    2. Embryos = children is a conversation stopper, and that’s why you talk like that. I suppose the decades-long goal of using the federal government to force women to give birth against their will must be imposed by sheer force, since you obviously have no intention of making an actual case.

      1. “Embryos = children is a conversation stopper”

        Truth has that effect sometimes.

        1. It’s not true under law and never has been, except maybe in some shithole theocracy somewhere.

        2. Tony is an idiot who thinks it is only embryos that are being killed by abortion.

          Or, he does not know the definition of a human embryo.

          Either way, he’s still an idiot who relishes the killing of innocents for the sake of convenience.

          1. So there is a point after conception in which personhood, not legally, but naturally and describable by science, inhabits a fetus? Where is that point? Lots of people need to know.

            1. {The earliest a baby has been born and survived is 21 weeks and 5 days. Two premature babies hold the record for this. Surprisingly, the first record holder was born in 1987, a time when the medical care of premature babies (neonatology) was a very new field.}

              So, you up for making it illegal after 21 weeks, five days? If not, why not.

  55. Muricans should be free to choose for themselves whether to wear masks or social distance!

    Except BLM protesters they are killing us all by their free choice for freedom!

    It’s not contradictory if I’m racist.

    1. No one cares about BLM protestors unless they riot and attack people, which is pretty much always. No one gives a shit that they congregate. They just want to be able to do the same things themselves.

      Right now in California, it is illegal to go to church but you can gather in the hundreds of thousands to have a BLM protest. And ignorant fucks like you think it is great.

      1. I know, all BLM protesters are guilty if one of them loots a Walgreens. Collective guilt: it’s the libertarian way. Unless you’re a Republican. That’s just 99% bad apples.

        1. What about the ones who murder 8 year old girls and the ones who shot the guy in Provo and murdered the woman in Indianapolis?

          They did so much damage to Minneapolis the mayor is asking for the feds to help rebuild. Then of course there is the Seattle CHOP, where they murdered three people in two weeks, including two black teenagers who took a wrong turn in a stolen car.

          And all of the “peaceful protesters” do nothign to stop the violence or help the police catch those who do.

          I know, all Sturmabteilung protesters are guilty if one of them breaks a window of a Jewish store. Collective guilt:

          Tony in 1938.

          That is literally what you would be saying had you lived in that time or place.

          1. Your priorities are fucked up John, and they are fucked up because you believe everything rightwing media tells you, and you apparently can’t see an agenda when its slapping its dick across your face.

            This country actually is in a hellish dystopia right now. But because Trump is causing it, you need to find a brown person, somewhere, somehow, to blame instead. At least get a new script for god’s sake.

          2. Since you’re into this kind of thing, let’s take the 5 or 6 people who have died in proximity to a BLM protest and compare them to the people who died directly because Trump wanted a rally in Tulsa. I’ll wait for you to do the numbers and then decide why the guy who killed more people directly with his own actions is 100% innocent while I’m responsible for the BLM-adjacent tragedies.

            1. No one dies in the Trump rally in Tulsa. And 26 people have been murdered by BLM this summer. 26 murders Tony. And you bitch and moan Trump had a rally.


              IF the Trump rally kills anyone because of the Chinese flu, then how many did the hundreds of BLM rallies kills? ARe you really so fucking retarded you think that being a BLM member saves you?

              26 murders Tony. And you think it is great.

              1. 130,000 dead and Trump only cares how it affects his poll numbers.

                I said the protests were a bad idea both for public safety and PR reasons. But they don’t listen to me. The problem here is the usual one: you want to extrapolate and make all Democrats and all black people responsible for the deaths you, someties falsely, attribute to BLM protesters. But the president isn’t even responsible for the harm he causes with his own little hands.

                1. 30,000 dead and Trump only cares how it affects his poll numbers.

                  And you cheer every death because you think it might help your sorry ass party. So, your point is?

                  I said the protests were a bad idea both for public safety and PR reasons. But they don’t listen to me. The problem here is the usual one: you want to extrapolate and make all Democrats and all black people responsible for the deaths you, someties falsely, attribute to BLM protesters.

                  BLM is the Democratic Party Tony. It is an albatross that is going to hang around their necks for years. And even you are smart enough to understand how bad that is.

                  Let it never be said you can’t understand anything. You at least get that.

                  1. You could be right. Republican propaganda is undeniably a powerful force in American politics. It can make a war hero into a faggy Frenchman, and a draft dodger into a manly man. Democrats are responsible for every bad thing that happens within 400 miles of a Democrat; Republicans aren’t responsible for their own president. I get it. I’ve lived long enough. The only question is how you sleep at night.

                    1. Since when the fuck have Democrats ever taken responsibility for anything?

            2. You seem rather blase about the 26 people murdered by BLM (thanks John) compared to your pants-shitting about the 1 person killed by the lunatic in Charlottesville. Principals vs. principles, eh Tony?

              As for the WuFlu, you’ve never shown the slightest interest in why those 130,000 had to die in the first place. Perhaps because the Chicoms are your favored brand of precioussss governmentsesss?

              1. Did BLM murder those people or sanction their murder?

                As it happens, there is an actual pattern of people being mowed down by vehicles at post-Floyd protests. The Washington Post counts 19 such incidents so far.

                But I was comparing them to the blood on Trump’s hands. Since we have other countries to compare our results to, and since Trump is the head of government, I say his policy of “Do nothing, hope, distract” is fair game.

                1. You mean the two thots that got steamrolled by that black immigrant in Seattle?

  56. I need a gun for the extremely unlikely scenario that I get in a shooting match with a thug on my porch.

    Meanwhile in the middle of a global pandemic: I don’t believe in taking unnecessary precautions, I’m a man’s man!

    1. No worries about a thug on your porch unless you are an 8 year old who shows up at a BLM rally in Atlanta. How many people did BLM kill today Tony?

      1. Your brain is pickled by rightwing media, John. It’s such a waste.

        A global pandemic is happening, the president is an insane shitshow from hell, and you think the real problem is phantom black people burning down cities. Do you ever notice how every time Republicans pull one of these lame distractions, it’s always about race? Is it a reflex or what. You’re lost and you need help.

        1. “it’s always about race?”

          Last year he was obsessed about being raped in a unisex toilet. Sometimes it’s about sex.

  57. Left-wing groups like Planned Parenthood – an organization founded by Margaret Sanger, a eugenicist who addressed the women of the KKK in the 1920’s calling for the elimination of “human weeds” (minorities, the disabled and otherwise unfit) and black celebrities like Mehcad Brooks who says abortion is a beautiful thing (see “Mehcad Brooks sick ad” on YouTube) make strange bedfellows indeed.

    1. Do a thought experiment where abortion wasn’t actually the murder of anybody, then suddenly it does start to look like a beautiful thing. Maybe one of the most important and useful advances in human freedom in human history. It permits families to raise only those children who are wanted. Think of the lower crime rates. The less poverty. The less homeless children.

      All you have to do is dump the idea that a fetus has the same rights as an actual person.

      1. 21 weeks 5 days.

      2. Or a thought experiment where abortion “doctors” who dissect the organs get lined up against a wall and shot.

    2. ““human weeds” (minorities, the disabled and otherwise unfit) and black celebrities…”

      … vote democrat.

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  60. “A new television series based on the classic dystopian novel Brave New World debuts Wednesday.”

    Because there’s not already enough dystopian series on TV, right?

    Geeze, no wonder everyone’s so friggin’ paranoid.

  61. Ms. Brown

    You don’t “get it” do you? You devise straw-man argument to defend abortion, then you slay the opposing argument YOU you want, declare yourself supreme to maintain the convenience of abortion offers. I oppose abortion, the same reason I oppose somebody taking a baseball bat to another’s head.

    So the real question is: when does life begin? You tell me where you intend to “cut the Gordian knot” . Be prepared to defend it, and don’t release anymore red herrings (my property, my body) , or oxymoron’s (reproductive health?) into the stream and cloud the waters.

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