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January 6

Why Purging Social Media of Extremist Speech Might Not Make Us Safer

Law enforcement will have an easier time arresting and prosecuting criminals on Parler than on Telegram.

Robby Soave | 1.12.2021 4:11 PM

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It's been a wild week on social media. Twitter and Facebook permanently suspended President Trump following the Capitol riots; Twitter removed 70,000 accounts for allegedly promoting violent and conspiratorial content; Facebook mistakenly locked former congressman Ron Paul out of his account, an incident that demonstrates the perils of overly broad moderation; Apple and Amazon moved to eliminate Parler from the former's app store and the latter's servers, effectively destroying the alternative platform used by many Trump supporters.

The social media companies' treatment of both Trump and Parler has prompted furious criticism from conservative pundits and politicians. "Big Tech wants to control what we see, how we behave, and what we say," said Rep. Matt Gaetz (R–Fla.) in a statement entirely characteristic of the right's response.

These moderation decisions can be defended on their own: Trump has repeatedly violated Twitter's terms of service, and spokespersons for the company have frequently suggested that he was receiving leniency only because of his status as president. The Capitol riots, in which Trump's inflammatory rhetoric likely played some role, are a new low for his presidency, and the platforms are understandably worried that future calls to reverse the outcome of the 2020 election could inspire further violence. Moreover, Twitter, Facebook, Amazon, and Apple are all private companies, and thus they have broad latitude to curtail speech, even in cases where doing so is not wise or well-founded.

It's also fair to criticize the platforms for decisions that appeared hypocritical. While Parler has certainly played host to extremist speech, so have Twitter and Facebook—but Apple and Amazon didn't punish either of them, which makes it seem like Big Tech is picking on a politically disfavored minor competitor. "It looks a lot like they're making Parler a sacrificial lamb to political pressure to do something about people talking too uncontrollably online," noted Reason Senior Editor Elizabeth Nolan Brown.

There's another reason to be wary of far-reaching bans and takedowns that have the effect of purging extremists from mainstream social media sites: Many such social media users will migrate to corners of the internet where it's harder to track their activities. Ironically, this could make it more difficult for law enforcement to foil violent plots, and more challenging to prosecute those who are responsible for violence.

Indeed, the swift justice currently being meted out to the rioters who stormed the Capitol last week is an illustration of this point. From the man who stole House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's (D–Calif.) lectern to the masked figure who brought zip ties (and his mom) inside the building, social media has been indispensable at helping to identify riot participants. The fact that so many of them tweeted about their plans—or even uploaded selfies while they were in the act of trespassing—means it will be trivially easy to arrest, try, and convict them.

There are similar lessons in counterterrorism. A recent study by the criminologist Joe Whittaker took a look at the Islamic State's social media presence and found that the group was too online for its own good. Terrorists who discussed their plans on social media were twice as likely to be apprehended by law enforcement.

"It is vital to understand the unintended consequences," wrote Whittaker. "This is particularly the case for content removal, which may inadvertently be aiding terrorists and hampering law enforcement investigations."

It's very clear that efforts to remove pro-ISIS content from Twitter and Facebook prompted the terrorist group to begrudgingly migrate to Telegram, an encrypted messaging service. Over time, ISIS became extremely reliant on the service, which made the group vulnerable; in November 2019, Telegram participated in a wildly successful police initiative to identify terrorists who were using the platform for recruitment. Even ISIS's use of this somewhat more underground social media site ended up backfiring.

Many people who were kicked off Twitter or Parler—or are perhaps fearful they could be next—are currently flocking to Telegram and Signal, another encrypted messaging service. If these platforms become the default organizing centers for the kinds of right-wing political extremists currently threatening to unleash more violence on Trump's behalf, they might be harder to foil in the future.

This doesn't mean social media platforms should abandon efforts to moderate extremist content entirely, just that we should be wary of the tradeoffs involved in such moderation. I have to imagine the FBI would prefer for terrorists to livestream their seditious plots, complete with location tracking and time stamps, on an easily accessed social media site.

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  1. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

    TIME TO START BURNING BOOKS!

    1. Unicorn Abattoir   4 years ago

      Call on Amazon to delete the Kindle archives!

    2. Bluwater   4 years ago

      In a nutshell:
      The purpose of allowing free speech isn’t because free speech for it’s own sake and liberty. It is to make it much easier for the police state to arrest people for their speech. ~ ROBBY SOAVE

      1. SQRLSY One   4 years ago

        Bluwater-the-Nut, naked and out of Bluwater’s nutshell:

        If domestic terrorists have a nuclear weapon, and are discussing how and where to detonate it, we the people, and our government, need to respect their privacy!

        1. JesseAz   4 years ago

          Your arguments are terrible sarcasmic.

          1. SQRLSY One   4 years ago

            Then refute them, authoritarian worshipper of the Great Whitish-Orangish-Pumpkin-Father!

            1. See Double You   4 years ago

              Not sure what you’ll do when OMB is gone.

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            2. Liberty Lover   4 years ago

              it is impossible to refute what doesn’t exist. It would be better if you verified your statements. I have asked many liberals to support their arguments, none ever has, so I find their arguments from untrustworthy to outright lies.
              Post your sights, You don’t even have to include hyperlinks, just things like
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        2. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

          Cripes, Sqrlsy is arguing for the surveillance state again.

          Can you remind me how you’re supposedly libertarian in less than 10,000 words?

          1. SQRLSY One   4 years ago

            Libertarianism is NOT my only value! NOT getting blown up by a nuclear explosion created by uber-fascist right-wing assholes is ALSO a value of mine! So is democracy instead of mob-ocracy! Is THAT so hard to understand, right-wing nut job?

            1. JesseAz   4 years ago

              Authlritarianism is your primary tenet. You bow to the left and The Narrativr.

            2. [your name here]   4 years ago

              But how could “uber-fascist right-wing assholes” even make a nuclear bomb in the first place? They don’t even believe in how to do “The Science”!

      2. Enness   4 years ago

        Absolutely! And there are plenty of actual patriots out here who take screen shots of posts white trash Yee-hadis make inciting domestic terrorism and insurrection and forward them to the FBI and BATFE.

        Is that prilled ammonium nitrate stuck on your MAGAT t shirt or just “snacks” from yesterday’s lunch?

      3. tlapp   4 years ago

        That’s what I took from this article. Don’t want people to have free speech and privacy at the same time. Oh the horror of it all for Robby Soave

  2. MP   4 years ago

    MIGHT??? FFS Robby…stop.

  3. Sometimes Bad Is Bad   4 years ago

    Why would they be harder to foil? Wasn’t your example that ISIS was foiled on Telegram?

    Well anyway if anyone thinks running something over the public internet even if it’s vpn or encrypted is not accessible to the government today or in the future you’re shockingly unaware.

    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   4 years ago

      The Dread Pirate Roberts agrees.

      1. Fat Mike's Drug Habit   4 years ago

        Eh, the real one is retired and living like a king in Patagonia.

        1. The Great Muta   4 years ago

          “living like a king in Patagonia.”

          That’s one shitty kingdom.

        2. Sometimes a Great Notion   4 years ago

          Thats just what the FBI wants you to believe.

          Wait does that mean FMsDH is FBI?

          *shuts up and backs away slowly*

  4. The Great Muta   4 years ago

    Might not?

    To be sure, Smooth likes his equivocation.

  5. Fist of Etiquette   4 years ago

    There’s another reason to be wary of far-reaching bans and takedowns that have the effect of purging extremists from mainstream social media sites…

    Extremism is a murky term and you could be next?

    1. icandrive,nigga   4 years ago

      Robbie made his rep with rape denial and defending a white supremacist Catholic school kid.

    2. WoodChipperBob   4 years ago

      This is the first thing I thought of. When you purge one round of extremists, the people who were just a little bit less extreme than the extremists that were just removed suddenly look a little bit more extreme in comparison to the average.

  6. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   4 years ago

    We all know that there is only right wing extremism, all left wing rhetoric is completely normal and fine

    1. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

      The two separate assaults on the White House last year by lefty rioters was actually good for the environment and resulted in positive psychic energy for all concerned.

      1. JesseAz   4 years ago

        Sarcasmic and chipper just won’t be happy until it is just them two sitting in a room sucking each other off and laughing at what they claim are jokes.

      2. See Double You   4 years ago

        Didn’t you hear? We met our CO2 reduction goals by nuking the economy. PROGRESS!

        1. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

          Think of all the environment you could save if you herded all the bad think into special camps.

          1. See Double You   4 years ago

            Well, concentration camps unify those within them, so we could also meet Joe Biden’s goal.

  7. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

    Shit Robby, don’t let sarcasmic or White Knight hear you.
    They’ve been arguing that the corporate censorship is a social good.

    1. JesseAz   4 years ago

      Damnit. Meant above comment for here.

    2. The   ​ White    Knight   4 years ago

      Here we go again. Are all Canadians this bad at understanding property rights?

      Let’s say you have a house, err, in your case, a log cabin. You invite a group of friends over for a small get-together. One of your friends drinks too much, drops his pants and starts pooping on your countertop, err, on your favorite pine tree out back. You ask him to stop but he refuses to stop. Under your extremely limited worldview there is nothing you can do but watch in horror as your inebriated friend ruins your favorite pine tree. In ACTUALITY, you are allowed to force him to leave as it is YOUR property. Your friend does not own the log cabin, the pine tree, the wood pile, the jug of maple syrup, the three-legged horse or the decrepit outhouse, he only owns his feces which he is actively spreading around your property, against your wishes.

      Does this make sense to you? I tried to explain it in a way that a Canadian would understand.

      1. Mann of Isle   4 years ago

        “Let’s say you have a house”

        “chemjeff radical individualist
        January.10.2021 at 9:28 pm
        I try to think of these things in analogy with the physical world because it’s just easier for me to think of things this way”

        1. JesseAz   4 years ago

          Lol. Sophists gonna sophist.

      2. Minadin   4 years ago

        There’s a world of difference between saying a particular action ‘should be illegal’ and saying that the same action is ‘a bad idea’.

  8. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

    “If these platforms become the default organizing centers for the kinds of right-wing political extremists currently threatening to unleash more violence on Trump’s behalf”

    Heavens, that’s a Reichstag fire too far. They might just break TWO windows next time.

    Did KMW pin you down with the power of Blue hair dye No. 6 and make you type that?

  9. lap83   4 years ago

    Tjry don’t give a shit about safety. If they did, they would do a better job of enforcing laws. They are censoring because they love doing it.

    1. lap83   4 years ago

      They*

      1. Outlaw Josey Wales   4 years ago

        Right. What is the inherent danger of #walkaway?

        1. Mann of Isle   4 years ago

          Dissent.

  10. Jerryskids   4 years ago

    I have to imagine the FBI would prefer for terrorists to livestream their seditious plots, complete with location tracking and time stamps, on an easily accessed social media site.

    I remember when the FBI foiled the Randy Weaver and David Koresh plottings – they didn’t need no internets for those foilings. Hell, they didn’t even need a plot. Which is how the FBI usually works from what I can tell. The FBI couldn’t find their own asses with both hands and a flashlight.

  11. Angry Porcupine   4 years ago

    Sadly, there is always a Tim McVeigh out there. Now they made thousand’s. Way to go d-bags!

    1. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   4 years ago

      Another left wing hero

  12. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   4 years ago

    Law enforcement will have an easier time arresting and prosecuting criminals on Parler than on Telegram.

    Please don’t make the subhed argument that law enforcement can better monitor us if we don’t mass censor. It’s not a good look out of the gate.

    1. JesseAz   4 years ago

      They’ve stopped caring about basic principles like speech and gun rights. Why stop at the 4th.

  13. CE   4 years ago

    Somehow I missed all the articles labeled “Minneapolis Riot” and “Portland Riot” and “Seattle Riot” last year.

    1. JesseAz   4 years ago

      This is different. Those were 93%peaceful once you dilute it enough.

      1. Rat on a train (FTG)   4 years ago

        Their cause was pure. It’s what protected them from the ‘rona.

    2. RabbitHead   4 years ago

      Note also that the afternoon’s Capitol breach/vandalism is referred to as “riots” plural, while a week of arson and looting is a protest.

    3. [your name here]   4 years ago

      Don’t forget Kenosha and Austin

  14. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   4 years ago

    There’s another reason to be wary of far-reaching bans and takedowns that have the effect of purging extremists from mainstream social media sites

    One man’s extremism is another man’s thoughtful testimony of why he left the Democratic party.

    1. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

      Leaving the Democratic party is sedition. That’s why utter maniacs like the #walkaway folks had to be purged from the internet.

      …and always remember that it’s the Trumpies who are somehow cultish.

  15. Muzzled Woodchipper   4 years ago

    Still ignoring the transparent incest between BigTech and the Democrat Party.

    BigTech is the Democrat party. These purgings are Democrat sponsored, and rewards are in the form of cabinet and other high level positions given to those in BigTech, so they can then write regulation and law for their own industry.

    When the fuck is Reason gonna stop dancing around this fucking elephant in the room? Even Robbie, who I generally like, has nothing but a pure statist, limp dick response of “purges might be bad, but what’s worse is it will make it harder for the government to find wrongdoers.” Fucking really? This is the best we get from a website with the mantra of “free markets”?

    This is anything but a free market decision, but Reason is still acting as if it were. If fucking libertarians won’t address clear collusion between the Democrat party and BigTech to erase the ability of non-party members to speak openly on the internet, what the fuck are you even doing?

    https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-tech-biden-insight/big-techs-stealth-push-to-influence-the-biden-administration-idUSKBN28V170

    1. Compelled Speechless   4 years ago

      They need to change their slogan to “Actually, the boot tastes pretty good.”

      1. Cyto   4 years ago

        Yeah, we live in a world full of people who can see five lights.

        1. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

          ‘How about the insurrection on Wednesday, Winston?’
          ‘It was a protest that got a little silly.’
          ‘And if the party says that it is not a protest but an insurrection—then what?’
          ‘A protest.’
          ‘Was it an insurrection, Winston?’
          ‘Protest.’
          The needle went up to sixty.
          ‘Was it an insurrection, Winston?’
          ‘Protest! protest! What else can I say? protest!’
          ‘Was it an insurrection, Winston?’
          ‘Protest! Stop it, stop it! How can you go on? protest! protest!’
          ‘Was it an insurrection, Winston?’
          ‘Insurrection! insurrection! insurrection!’
          ‘No, Winston, that is no use. You are lying.
          You still think it was a protest.’
          ‘Was it an insurrection, Winston?’
          ‘Protest! insurrection! protest! Anything you like. Only stop it, stop the pain!’

    2. JesseAz   4 years ago

      Boehm gets furious over a 5% tariff against a country actively committing theft… yet they seem fine with blatant market collusion to destroy a competitor.

      1. [your name here]   4 years ago

        I wonder if he’d sing a different tune if Parler was a Chinese company…

  16. Taoist   4 years ago

    “Mistakenly” locked Ron Paul out of his account. I assume #walkaway was also a “mistake”.

    It’s funny how often battered wives like this author will go back to trusting the tech companies as they consistently and repeatedly go after anyone who’s not a lefty while allowing open calls for violence from anyone who is a lefty.

    1. JesseAz   4 years ago

      Did you not realize how much harder their job would be without twitter?

  17. Compelled Speechless   4 years ago

    Limiting speech might not make people safer? Hey Robby, when are you going to publish “Why imprisoning people for thought crimes might not make us safer? Maybe you can be a little bit ahead of the trends for once.

    Where else do people on these boards go to post comments? I’m done. This is supposed to be a fucking libertarian site. They have seceded the argument to the left completely. Pure unfettered free speech is the default you twits. If anyone that worked at this outlet was genuinely worried about social media fanning the flames of political violence they had all summer to voice it.

    Free speech is your right, not something you have to ask for from the DNC and these big tech and social media tumors that they have growing out of their ass. The fascism you spent the last 5 years having daily aneurisms about is here. This is what it actually looks like. The government and all the companies (now de facto monopolies) that host the tools for speech (and can just as easily and gleefully take it away) are the same thing. They do each others bidding and if you don’t agree, you go away.

    Right now it’s just silence, but it will at the rate that totalitarianism has spread this year, it’s going to be cages and work camps. A year ago I would have thought that sounds crazy, but the establishment has realized that there’s basically nothing they can’t tell us to do and watch us dutifully line up and do as we’re told. Why would they stop? The excuse to do anything is just one boogie man fear campaign away.

    1. Cyto   4 years ago

      http://www.glibertarians.com

      1. Chipper Morning Wood--------------------------------------------------------------------------   4 years ago

        Yes, please go there instead. All the Trump cultists will be welcome there.

        1. JesseAz   4 years ago

          Ways censoring, never thinking. Good on you WK.

  18. See Double You   4 years ago

    C’mon, Robby, there is no “might”. Certainty is OK now and then.

  19. Gaear Grimsrud   4 years ago

    It’s a real conundrum. Should libertarians support censorship or enhanced deep state investigations of wrong thinkers? And why can’t it be both?

  20. Gaear Grimsrud   4 years ago

    Think this guy is an extremist Robbie?

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/pbs-top-lawyer-says-gov-should-build-enlightenment-camps-and-remove-children-trump

    BREAKING: @PBS Principal Counsel Michael Beller Incites Political Violence In Radical Left-Wing Agenda

    “Go to the White House & throw Molotov cocktails…”

    “Even if Biden wins, we go for all the Republican voters, Homeland Security will take their children away…”

    1. Lord of Strazele   4 years ago

      A good example of the sort of dumb national enquirer trash you people consume and BELIEVE.

      1. See Double You   4 years ago

        Except that PBS acknowledged it happened.

        1. MK Ultra   4 years ago

          And fired him.

      2. Chipper Morning Wood--------------------------------------------------------------------------   4 years ago

        Zero Hedge is run by a Bulgarian dude with KGB connections.

        1. JesseAz   4 years ago

          The video is real and PBS fired him.

          God damn, stop clowning yourself WK.

          You’ve basically proven you try to live in an intentional bubble of lefty group think.

        2. WoodChipperBob   4 years ago

          And yet, the story there is the same as that of the Associated Press, with additional material from the video and some loaded words that show Zero Hedge’s bias. Of course, the AP’s article also uses loaded words to downplay the incident, when they use “right-wing sting operation” and “to reveal supposed liberal bias.”

          https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-entertainment-coronavirus-pandemic-8f586d687ab332777a7a059457ff818e

    2. [your name here]   4 years ago

      Separating children from their parents is only bad at the border and when Trump does it…

  21. Lord of Strazele   4 years ago

    The disassociation from these entities and persons has everything to do with their behavior. You literally have to be in league with a defeated President while gaslighting the world and trying to overthrow democracy for people say, “no, fuck you, I’ve seen enough. You’re not going to use my property for your evil demented scheme.”

    1. Lord of Strazele   4 years ago

      Mitch McConnell has apparentky seen enough if this reporting is true.

      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2021/jan/12/donald-trump-impeachment-insurrection-capitol-joe-biden-coronavirus-covid-live-updates

      1. Mann of Isle   4 years ago

        “A good example of the sort of dumb national enquirer trash you people consume and BELIEVE.”

    2. See Double You   4 years ago

      However, if your evil demented scheme is of a leftwing flavor, you will be promoted and cheered. We know how this works. You’re just another partisan piece of shit.

      1. Lord of Strazele   4 years ago

        But what if you’re crazy and there is no leftwing evil scheme?

        1. Sometimes Bad Is Bad   4 years ago

          Then your name is Lard of Strudel who believes everything she reads in Daily Kos and Jacobin mag.

        2. Mann of Isle   4 years ago

          Then Parler would still be on Amazon and Trump would still be on Twitter.

  22. Cyto   4 years ago

    Robby!

    You are the only one we have left there! Time to step up your game. No more equivocation. Time for some full-throated excoriation of these assaults on our liberties. Go have a coffee with greenwald and his husband if you need someone to help you bolster your courage.

    Somebody has to be the voice of freedom. Might as well be you!

  23. JesseAz   4 years ago

    The social media companies’ treatment of both Tump and Parler has prompted furious criticism from conservative pundits and politicians.

    And Mexico, France, Germany, the aclu, actual libertarians, classical liberals…

    1. See Double You   4 years ago

      Well, except for the classical liberal par excellence called JFree.

    2. Lord of Strazele   4 years ago

      Well, they’re wrong. People have the right to boycott fascism.

      1. See Double You   4 years ago

        And the left’s abuse of words continues unabated.

      2. JesseAz   4 years ago

        You are the fascist sweetie.

      3. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   4 years ago

        Not according to the progressives

    3. Muzzled Woodchipper   4 years ago

      And perhaps the most prominent progressive voice in America (Brazil, but you know what I mean).

      1. JesseAz   4 years ago

        If the left can declare Cubans in Florida white they can declare the ACLU conservative i guess.

        1. Muzzled Woodchipper   4 years ago

          I’m talking about Greenwald, who’s already spoken out, and is all in on the authoritarian nature of this collusion not only between companies, but between these companies and the Democrat party.

          The war on terror is about to be brought home, and used on Americans. Again.

          And Team Blue rejoices in bringing Bush era tactics to use them against their fellow citizens.

          Social media has not only been corrupted, but weaponized.

  24. Gaear Grimsrud   4 years ago

    Of course it is imperative that we track down and imprison anyone who would steal Nancy’s gavel. But even thesr guys think thee might be a lager issue here.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/aclu-warns-unchecked-power-after-facebook-twitter-suspend-trump

    “We understand the desire to permanently suspend him now, but it should concern everyone when companies like Facebook and Twitter wield the unchecked power to remove people from platforms that have become indispensable for the speech of billions – especially when political realities make those decisions easier,” the ACLU statement read.

    1. Muzzled Woodchipper   4 years ago

      Yeah, when an outlet dedicated to free minds can’t find a way to say anything beyond the most tepid criticism possible, they need to hang it the fuck up.

    2. creech   4 years ago

      “Are you now, or were you ever, a member of the Republican Party?”

    3. WoodChipperBob   4 years ago

      Let me make a suggestion Gaear. While one may read about something first on Zero Hedge (or Wonkette, or some other heavily biased source), it’s a good idea to spend a few seconds to try to find the same story on an older, mainstream media outlet, because there are people who won’t believe anything that comes sources on the outer edges of the Ad Fontes media bias chart. It’s a lot harder to dismiss something that appears in media sources that preexisted the internet without looking like a conspiracy theorist or other nutbar. For example, on the first page of Google results, I found the same story on Newsweek’s site.

      https://www.newsweek.com/aclu-counsel-warns-unchecked-power-twitter-facebook-after-trump-suspension-1560248

  25. Gaear Grimsrud   4 years ago

    Shouldn’t these tweets have some kind of disclaimer Robby?
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/homeless-congresswoman-pushes-bill-expel-republicans-who-backed-election-challenge

  26. Gaear Grimsrud   4 years ago

    https://greenwald.substack.com/p/how-silicon-valley-in-a-show-of-monopolistic

    It looked as if Parler had proven critics of Silicon Valley monopolistic power wrong. Their success showed that it was possible after all to create a new social media platform to compete with Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. And they did so by doing exactly what Silicon Valley defenders long insisted should be done: if you don’t like the rules imposed by tech giants, go create your own platform with different rules.

    If one were looking for evidence to demonstrate that these tech behemoths are, in fact, monopolies that engage in anti-competitive behavior in violation of antitrust laws, and will obliterate any attempt to compete with them in the marketplace, it would be difficult to imagine anything more compelling than how they just used their unconstrained power to utterly destroy a rising competitor.

    It is hard to overstate the harm to a platform from being removed from the App Store. Users of iPhones are barred from downloading apps onto their devices from the internet. If an app is not on the App Store, it cannot be used on the iPhone. Even iPhone users who have already downloaded Parler will lose the ability to receive updates, which will shortly render the platform both unmanageable and unsafe.

  27. AddictionMyth   4 years ago

    Many people are intentionally obnoxious and offensive on Twitter in an attempt to get banned, and they wear their past, dead avatars as badges of honor. Their goal is say, “We no longer have free speech so must resort to violence.” It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy. They often hide behind a pet issue such as anti-porn, anti-usury or QAnon that they use as a pretext to be contrarian and stubborn. That way they can say, “I was censored for my beliefs” even though they violated the terms of service in other ways (which they won’t show you).

    Another hypocrisy is that they often have huge block lists. Well if you can block others then of course Twitter can block you, and for the same reasons. I was blocked by the “Stop the Steal” guy for gently advocating basic libertarian principles. If you block me online then don’t expect me to listen to you when you storm the capital. You’ll only earn yourself a one-way ticket to the gulag.

    1. RabbitHead   4 years ago

      You are the problem.

  28. Brian   4 years ago

    You don’t purge social media to be safer.

    You pure social media to feel safer.

    1. WoodChipperBob   4 years ago

      If ‘pure’ wasn’t a typo, I applaud your word choice. If it was a typo, I applaud your fingers for choosing the word despite your brain’s attempts to type ‘purge’ again.

  29. Curly4   4 years ago

    Why Purging Social Media of Extremist Speech Might Not Make Us Safer

    On the contrary purging social media including the broadcast and cable news of extremist speech WILL make US safer. Now the term EXTREMIST SPEECH needs to be defined. Extremist speech is speech which is out of line with what is socially acceptable. In to days society that would be any speech which is not politically correct. By purging media of this kind of speech would make any who tried to use this speech an outlier and would caused them to become an outcast. Becoming an out cast would cause the person to no longer be able to get a job nor if they tried to run a business the could not get any customers. This would make the person if they are wise to rethink their extremists speech and soon they would become like other people and not use the speech.
    Now if the person may use that speech at home but if they have a child and that child used that kind of speech away from home that person would lose his/her child(ren) because they would be unfit parent. These measures would soon cause this extremists speech to be forgotten for the betterment of all of the population.

    1. [your name here]   4 years ago

      The Joo Janta 200 Super-Chromatic Peril Sensitive Sunglasses have been designed to help people develop a relaxed attitude to danger. They follow the principle “what you don’t know can’t hurt you” and turn completely dark and opaque at the first sign of danger. This prevents you from seeing anything that might alarm you. This does, however, mean that you see absolutely nothing, including where you’re going.

  30. TJJ2000   4 years ago

    No worries; If Biden is as great of a president as Obama — Prosecuting Criminals will be ANY American who pays any respect to the U.S. Constitution.

    1. TJJ2000   4 years ago

      Ironically; It was one of the teller-sign of a domestic terrorist cult member on the FBI webpage when Obama was President – Might still be; I haven’t checked since then.

  31. Ama-Gi Anarchist   4 years ago

    Oh, NOW you’re worried. Fuck, Reason, why have you gobbled so much Beltway cock that you’ve turned into Republicrat-lite?

  32. COINTELPRO   4 years ago

    “Consumer Voting” – how you spend your dollars is far more powerful than electoral voting.

    If you don’t like online censorship, defund online social media and buy a “paper” newspaper, paper magazines, etc. Stop funding their advertises and fire the censors!

  33. GTFactory   4 years ago

    I regularly participate in several message boards related to my hobbies … mainly metal working & shotgun sports (trap, sporting clays, etc.). All of these boards … maybe 10 that I’m active in … have “off topic” areas that are mainly discussions around politics.

    I’ve been involved with most of these for at least 5 years and a few a lot longer than that. in the last year leading up to the election the volume of msgs has exploded. S

    Shutting down parler or kicking ppl off mainstream platforms will not have any effect at all. In fact, all it’s done is push these conversations into the darkest of dark corners where’s there’s no dissenting voice at all. These sites are echo chambers on steroids and they’re not going anywhere. Unless, of course, Amazon (AWS) looks into every recess of its infrastructure to find and ban “objectionable” speech. And if they take that approach we’re a mere baby step away from penalizing thoughtcrime.

  34. [your name here]   4 years ago

    If these platforms become the default organizing centers for the kinds of right-wing political extremists currently threatening to unleash more violence on Trump’s behalf

    Then let’s ban ALL THE THINGS because you can be damn sure that Twitter and Facebook and a bunch of other methods were used to organize the kind of left-wing political extremists who absolutely unleashed a bunch of violence against ordinary Americans all last summer for… reasons…

  35. tlapp   4 years ago

    It’s not making us safer because those whose voice is squelched, First Amendment rights are restricted may well decide to defend those rights with force. If censorship continues we will reach a tipping point where it is not violence but freedom loving Patriots fighting an oppressor.

  36. Haystack   4 years ago

    Purging social media of the trash is fun to watch. That’s for sure. It’s like draining the swamp.

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