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The Portland Protest Shooter's Death Looks More and More Like Excessive Force—but Trump Keeps Bragging About It

Plus: A tale of two townhalls, Matt Welch interviews Jo Jorgensen, Bill Gates talks antitrust, Ajit Pai moves on Section 230 study, and more...

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Execution squad? The more that comes out about the federal task force killing of Portland murder suspect Michael Forest Reinoehl, the worse his death looks.

The president isn't helping. "We sent in the U.S. Marshals. Took 15 minutes, it was over. Fifteen minutes, it was over—we got him," Donald Trump told a crowd in North Carolina on Thursday. "They knew who he was. They didn't want to arrest him, and 15 minutes—that ended."

A benefit-of-the-doubt reading here would be that Trump's "they" who "didn't want to arrest" was a reference to the Portland police—who hadn't yet arrested Reinoehl by the time the task force intervened—and not an admission that agents didn't want to take Reinoehl in alive (as some have been reading it).

But either way, the end of the mission is nothing to be bragging about. By many accounts, the officers didn't even attempt to arrest Reinoehl peacefully.

Investigators said this week that Reinoehl—pursued for fatally shooting Aaron "Jay" Danielson during a confrontation at an August 29 protest in Portland—had a loaded handgun when local law enforcement serving on the U.S. Marshals Pacific Northwest Violent Offender Task Force killed him on September 3. But the gun was still in Reinoehl's front pants pocket as police fired more than 30 bullets at him.

"The new information follows initial reports from investigators [that] the federal fugitive task force involved in shooting Reinoehl gave conflicting statements," reports ABC News.

One member of the task force claimed that Reinoehl pointed a gun at them. Another said that didn't happen, but Reinoehl was reaching for a gun when they shot him. A U.S. Marshal's Office press release claimed Reinoehl "produced a firearm, threatening the lives of law enforcement officers."

This week, Thurston County Sheriff's Lt. Ray Brady said that Reinoehl's hand may have been on a gun or may have been merely "near" the gun.

At a Tuesday press conference, investigators said they still do not know if the gun in Reinoehl's pocket on the night of his death was the same gun used to kill Danielson a few nights prior.

Almost two dozen witnesses to Reinoehl's subsequent death say task force members never identified themselves or warned Reinoehl before opening fire on him, though Sheriff Brady disputed this on Tuesday.

Nathaniel Dingess, who lived nearby, told The Oregonian in September that he "saw Reinoehl walk toward his car holding a cellphone in his hand when two unmarked law enforcement vehicles converged outside the complex [and] began firing at Reinoehl." After initially shooting, they told Reinoehl to halt and then resumed shooting, Dingess said, adding that he never saw Reinoehl reach for a gun.

The New York Times talked with 22 people who had been nearby when Reinoehl was killed, and only one recalled the task force members saying anything before they starting shooting:

Mr. Louis…some 140 feet from Mr. Reinoehl, also said the police opened fire immediately, without giving any warnings—as did Mr. Smith and Mr. Cutler.

"There was no, 'Get out of the car!' There was no, 'Stop!' There was no nothing. They just got out of the car and started shooting," Mr. Louis said.

Mr. Smith described it similarly: "There was no yelling. There was no screaming. There was no altercation. It was just straight to gunshots."

Of the five eyewitnesses, none saw Reinoehl holding or reaching for a gun.

Despite the questions surrounding the officers conduct, Trump has repeatedly bragged about this operation—and even described it as "retribution."


ELECTION 2020

Presidential candidates Joe Biden, Donald Trump, and Jo Jorgensen fielded voter questions on Thursday night. On a night originally slated for a debate between Trump and Biden, the Republican and Democratic nominees instead squared off in dueling TV interviews.

During Biden's time taking questions in Philadelphia from ABC host George Stephanopoulos, Biden said police should shoot people in the leg as a deescalation tactic (this is a bad idea); asked if he supports court packing, he said he was "open to considering what happens" after the Amy Coney Barrett confirmation process.

On NBC, Trump spread major misinformation about masks, claiming erroneously that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said "that 85 percent of the people wearing masks catch" COVID-19. He also evaded questions about his taxes, whether he took a coronavirus test before the first debate, and more. And he claimed (once again) that he has "done more for the African-American community than any president with the exception of Abraham Lincoln."

Meanwhile, libertarian presidential nominee Jo Jorgensen talked with Reason's Matt Welch. Watch that here.


FREE MINDS

Federal Communications Commission (FCC) Chair Ajit Pai announced yesterday that he will accept the Trump administration's request to "interpret" Section 230. While Pai's announcement isn't necessarily bad news, it's not a good sign that he announced the effort in a statement misrepresenting the law as a special protection for tech companies—a popular bit of ant-230 propaganda that simply is not true.

Prominent Republicans pushed several misconceptions about Section 230 yesterday, as hysteria about it reaches a fever pitch among extremely online conservatives. The most prominent of these is the idea "publisher" and "platform" are legal categories which websites must stay on one side or the other of.

(For good primers on Section 230 myths, see this Reason TV video and this Techdirt post.)


FREE MARKETS

Bill Gates questions antitrust investigation. Microsoft founder Bill Gates spoke out against the congressional strategy of tackling tech companies' potential antitrust violations as a group, rather than on a company-by-company basis. "I think it's kind of unfortunate that they're grouping the companies together, because there are so many different issues," Gates said at the GeekWire Summit. Antitrust enforcers famously targeted Microsoft in the 1990s.

"If they want to get serious, they're going to have to focus in, enumerate the issues and them debate them. So I'd say we're kind of at the beginning," he continued. Gates thinks we should be having more conversation about how tech practices affect consumers and "a little less about demonizing the specific people involved."

Gates also commended today's tech CEOs for their ability to play nice with politicians and regulators:

I think the main mistake I made, which was not realizing how important it would be to develop relationships in Washington, be engaged there—these companies are not making the same mistake that I made. They have lots of people. Jeff even has a nice house in Washington, DC. They may even be making some other mistakes. But everybody saw what I did and knows better now.

If their recent treatment is what it looks like when they suck up to D.C. power, I shudder to think what things would look like otherwise.


FOLLOWUP

Twitter is revising its hacked materials policy after the company used it as grounds to remove a New York Post story about Joe Biden and his son Hunter.


QUICK HITS

• In which Trump does not appear to realize that The Babylon Bee is a satire site:

• After a woman used a racial slur outside a grocery store in Pennsylvania, "the Allegheny County District Attorney's Office determined that the woman's alleged conduct supports the 'charging of several violations.'" But Gisele Barreto Fetterman, the target of the slur and the wife of Pennsylvania Lt. Gov. John Fetterman, told police she didn't want to press charges.

• "The government can pursue people for disclosing classified information, but it can't stop them from publishing books just because they might make the president's family look bad," writes national security lawyer Mark S. Zaid at The Washington Post.

• A tiny bit of good news on the free speech and free markets fronts: "A judge in San Francisco said Thursday she's not likely to lift a temporary block on the US government's attempts to ban WeChat," reports The Verge. "Beeler did not issue a ruling Thursday but said the government had not presented new evidence to persuade her that there were significant national security concerns with allowing WeChat to remain active in the US."

What happens if Roe v. Wade is overturned?

• Rick and Morty is extremist material in Russia:

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    1. “I have a feeling today is going to be a great day. Thanks everyone for being you, and I hope you all have a wonderful day.”

      I certainly hope not.
      Fuck off.

      1. Sevo, here’s a clue about Liberals Are People Too: Trump thought a Babylon Bee article was authentic.

        1. So you’re saying he got you and ENB.

          1. I’m saying that Sevo’s quickness to anger made him lack perception of Liberals Are People Too’s authenticity.

            I’m saying that Trump’s being a humorless moron made him lack perception of the Babylon Bee article’s authenticity.

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            3. I’m saying that Trump’s being a humorless moron made him lack perception of the Babylon Bee article’s authenticity.

              So you’re saying that you actually believed that Donald Trump—-@realDonaldTrump– who wields twitter mobs like weapons, didn’t know that the Bee–whose satire he’s repeatedly tweeted–was satire?

              I’d laugh, but you’re not even worth it.

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              1. You are saying you think he did know? And he just wants to make himself look stupid, on purpose, right before an election.

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          1. The White Knight and ENB are too dumb to realize that using satire to criticize someone is still… criticizing them.

            1. Everyone here needs to leave the White Knight alone. What has he ever done to any of you besides offer sincere, truthful and thought-provoking commentary? If that’s a crime, then lock him up.

              1. We believe it is sincere. That is the only adjective that appears to be correct.

              2. It’s not that every day he reminds us he’s the dumbest guy in the room.

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        3. “Sevo, here’s a clue about Liberals Are People Too: Trump thought a Babylon Bee article was authentic.”

          WK, here’s a clue for you:
          Fuck off and die.

          1. Let the anger flow through you.

            1. Copying me, huh.
              I obsess you, don’t I.

              1. You are Palpatine?!

                1. They’re just jealous of you, the White Knight. Please don’t be discouraged. If you need someone to talk to, I’m always here.

                  1. Thanks, Bud!

            2. Fuck off and die.

        4. Man, what happened to the Babylon Bee. It used to be funny, but now it’s just low hanging fruit for Maga hats. There is no cleverness to anything they write anymore.

          1. More inane chipper comedy lessons, straight from the guy who thinks he makes funny points on this site.

            1. Who are your favorite comedians, Jesse? Besides Trump, of course.

              1. The Bee article was pretty lame, comedy-wise.

                1. It’s been really bad lately. When the Bee first started, I really enjoyed it. It’s just shit these days. The Onion kind of sucks too. Granted, it’s hard to parody Trump, because he keeps out-parodying himself.

              2. No please, continue with your comedy lessons buddy. Youre a regular laugh riot.

            2. Wait, he thinks he’s funny? I never realized that.

              1. Yeah. Whenever he says something dumb, often, he claims it was sarcasm or a joke.

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      1. The effort of sitting and refreshing until the roundup was posted smacks of desperation.

        I WOULDN’T HAVE TO IF THEY’D POST AT 9:30AM SHARP EVERYDAY LIKE RIGGS AND I AGREED.

        1. I apologize profusely, I should have prefaced my comment with, “For anyone who isn’t Fist,”

          You commitment to keeping the roundup lively is always appreciated. 🙂

      2. I don’t understand what this hateful, snarky reply is even supposed to mean, Chuck P.

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    4. ‘The day started off very hopeful and happy but got progressively worse…’

      Isn’t this every day for a liberal progressive such as yourself?

      1. You know it’s a parody, right?

        1. Wait you aren’t?

          1. Afraid not. Just a sick joke on humanity.

          2. ya inquiring minds want to know.

        2. ‘progressively worse…’

          Play on words. Though explaining it does take the fun out.

          1. Ahh… Good one.

            1. “I’m saying that Sevo’s quickness to anger made him lack perception of Liberals Are People Too’s authenticity.”

              LOL

            2. It is funny watching you think you’re the clever one calling out a parody and not getting obvious jokes in response.

              1. I’ll admit. That is funny, at my expense. I f’d up.

                1. >> funny, at my expense

                  Monday through Friday it seems …

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  2. Rick and Morty is extremist material in Russia…

    Across all realities?

    1. Well, not the Cronenberg reality.

    2. It is about the most anti-authoritarian TV show I’ve ever seen.

      1. Hence, extremist. QED

    3. Fake news? Onion level parody? Original source https://panorama.pub/49945-rik-i-morti-vnesyon.html

      1. Onion isnt very good parody… was it at some time in the past?

  3. But Gisele Barreto Fetterman, the target of the slur and the wife of Pennsylvania Lt. Gov. John Fetterman, told police she didn’t want to press charges.

    Don’t be a cuck; press those charges!

    1. This is the left’s goal

    2. Fetterman is a piece of crap. So using a racial slur is against the law? Like the N word?

      1. I mean what could be more 1A than prosecuting just some for the use of certain words

    3. The story stinks to high heaven, including the fact that they are not identifying her. This looks like a Smollet.

  4. What happens if Roe v. Wade is overturned?

    Biden reevaluates the job he did packing the court?

    1. The world ends, because the issue of abortion returns to the individual states, probably 40 of which will allow abortions as are currently allowed. Of the remaining 10 or so, abortions will probably be allowed with differing levels of restriction.
      Since women are not allowed to travel outside their home states for any reason, we all are entering the Handmaid’s Tale.
      If you can’t force your moral view on everyone, there can be no peace.

      1. The best result of overturning Roe vs. Wade is not having to ask SCOTUS nominees if they intend to overturn Roe vs. Wade.

        1. They will ask if they intend to reinstate instead.

      2. If you think the fetus rights activists would stop at this, I got some news for you about activists in general.

        1. I’m told that any restriction of abortion rights is a human tragedy.

          I’m told that any restriction of gun rights is merely common-sense.

          I’m told that any restriction of the 1a is necessary to protect the feelings of traditionally oppressed people.

      3. “Since women are not allowed to travel outside their home states for any reason …”
        (because we won’t be able to buy cars with a driving range sufficient for cross-state road trips)

        1. Nailed it!

        2. I don’t need a car with a driving range. I don’t golf.

          1. they also get really bad gas mileage anyhow

  5. A judge in San Francisco said Thursday she’s not likely to lift a temporary block on the US government’s attempts to ban WeChat…

    They might try sharing Hunter Biden stories on there.

  6. The government can pursue people for disclosing classified information, but it can’t stop them from publishing books just because they might make the president’s family look bad…

    Challenge accepted.

  7. In which Trump does not appear to realize that The Babylon Bee is a satire site…

    I’ll wait until Snopes factchecks this.

    1. Even USA Today rates it as satire.

    2. To be fair, many of the Bee’s storys come to pass within months or even weeks of posting. Its almost prophecy at this ppint

  8. If you make up new meanings for words, why, anything is possible:

    “Republicans already packing lower courts, even in California”
    […]
    “While Vice President Mike Pence and fellow Republicans accuse Democrats of plotting to “pack” the Supreme Court with additional members if they win next month’s election, there’s a Republican strategy already in effect — it could be labeled court-packing of a different sort — to fill scores of lifetime judgeships in the nation’s federal courts.”
    https://www.sfchronicle.com/nation/article/Republicans-are-already-packing-the-lower-courts-15651868.php?cmpid=gsa-sfgate-result

    Lefty scum says dog has five legs.

    1. You’re not gonna this like angry grandpa:

      There’s nothing more originalist than packing the court.

      As Amy Coney Barrett said in Senate testimony this week, the Constitution has “the meaning that it had at the time people ratified it.” Even before every state ratified America’s founding charter, George Washington signed a bill that placed just six justices on the Supreme Court. The second president, John Adams, reduced that number to five. Thomas Jefferson increased that number to seven. And the man who inspired the term “Jacksonian Democracy” added two more justices in 1837.

      https://www.washingtonpost.com

      1. Let’s see…the court had different numbers of members when we also had slavery. Great argument.

      2. By the way I stumbled on how to defeat the paywall at the Wash Post. Download the link for the story. The whole thing downloads and you can read it.

        1. “By the way I stumbled on how to defeat the paywall at the Wash Post. Download the link for the story. The whole thing downloads and you can read it.”

          Interesting that parasitic lefty shits brag about trying to kill the host.

          1. How many times do you guys think Sevo has thrown his dentures in anger at someone?

            1. Another amazing example of chippers astute comedy styling. Fuck, can’t stop laughing. Good one buddy.

              1. I’m going with projection as attempted comedy.

            2. “How many times do you guys think Sevo has thrown his dentures in anger at someone?”

              How many times do lefty shits think mentioning someone’s age is humorous?
              How many times have lefty shits actually been humorous?

      3. No, the Constitution doesn’t specify the size of the court. That is true. But that doesn’t mean that the founders intended for it’s size to be expanded for partisan purposes. Packing the court would destroy it’s legitimacy and long term viability as a check on the other two branches.

        Are you really so stupid that you don’t think the Republicans wouldn’t just pack it back in their favor when they inevitably retook the Senate and the White House? Yes, actually you are that stupid.

        1. John, you’re assuming anyone but Ds will be allowed to take the senate or presidency.
          2020 is a preview of leftist rule. Their cards are on the table.
          If they pull off the cheat, America becomes a 1 party state

        2. Joe Biden knows the quite sane argument that the Republican response to the Democrat’s packing the court would be to pack it some more, since we have records of him making the argument in the past.

          Pathetically, he is afraid to say, “No, I will not pack the court”, and back his position up with perfectly valid reasoning because perfectly valid reasoning will not be listened to by many liberal voters.

          The growing partisan Red vs. Blue Team divide sucks, and is making our country collectively stupid.

          1. Joe Biden knows the quite sane argument that the Republican response to the Democrat’s packing the court would be to pack it some more, since we have records of him making the argument in the past

            Dementia denialist.

            1. How so?

              1. As in the case of Outlaw Josey Wales upthread, I loathe explaining a joke, in this case about Biden being able to remember his past positions.

                1. The Outlaw joke was pretty good. I admit it was too subtle for me and I didn’t catch it.

                    1. Tough day at the Ren Fair for the Knight.

        3. Republicans would have to win the House, Senate and WH to do that. And even then the Republicans would only be returning to the advantage they currently enjoy. The Democrats have nothing to lose.

          1. Yes they have a lot to lose. They would lose an independent judiciary. It would be come a slave of the Congress. That you don’t understand how bad that would be says everything anyone needs to know about how stupid and craven you are.

            1. That argument might mean something if it wasn’t coming from a place of pure partisanship. Because we all know that if the situation were reversed, John would be passionately arguing for packing the court.

              1. You mean like in 2016?

              2. Funny, the only people I’ve ever read that have made arguments for packing the court have been Democrats.

                1. To be fair, it sounds a lot like fudge packing.

              3. Democrats have controlled the courts for most of my life. Never once did I support court packing to fix that.

                Stop projecting your partisan idiocy on everyone else.

              4. “Because we all know that if the situation were reversed, John would be passionately arguing for packing the court.”

                ….yet he has not. Weird. Only Democrats have called for court packing. Just as only Democrats defended slavery.

          2. Republicans would have to win the House, Senate and WH to do that.

            A situation so rare that it last obtained . . . two years ago.

            But that’s not even your primary idiocy. Your primary idiocy is the declaration:

            The Democrats have nothing to lose.

            This is not remotely true. The Supreme Court’s power is entirely a matter of legitimacy. The only reason that abortion is currently legal in, say, Alabama, is that Republicans, in mass, accept that the Supreme Court has the legitimacy to make it legal. What happens if Republicans decide that the Supreme Court is illegitimate?

            No, seriously, think it out. Imagine Republicans believe that the Supreme Court is illegitimate, and a Republican who so believes is in the White House, even though Democrats in Congress block him from counter-packing. The Alabama Supreme Court, which is elected, issues a ruling that Roe v. Wade was an unconstitutional usurpation of power by the U.S. Supreme Court and should be ignored. Alabama prosecutors put a doctor in prison for performing abortions. His lawyers appeal to a Federal court, but when the ruling comes back, Alabama ignores it. The President says, “Alabama’s right, the Supreme Court can’t legitimately say abortion is legal.” Then what?

            Congratulations. By delegitimizing the Supreme Court by packing it, Democrats have overturned Roe, and Lawrence, and Obergefell, and the rest of the precedents they imagined they were protecting.

            Because Supreme Court rulings aren’t magic. They only apply as long as everyone agrees the Supreme Court is legitimate. Burn down that legitimacy, and you burn down all the precedents. Congratulations, dumbass, you destroyed the Supreme Court in order to save it.

            1. Good point. You could say the same about the Rule of Law.

              1. You can. But states can have rule of state law while ignoring federal law. State law is what people actually care about.

        4. Are you really so stupid that you don’t think the Republicans wouldn’t just pack it back in their favor when they inevitably retook the Senate and the White House?

          It will be interesting to see what the post-Trump GOP looks like, but unless they completely rebrand and embrace pluralism, they will most likely never retake the White House.

          1. “Libertarians” for 1 party rule

          2. Republicans control more elected offices today than they have at any time since Reconstruction. So, they are doing quite fine.

            And if your answer is “we will never lose power so it doesn’t matter”, you are either an authoritarian, an idiot or both.

      4. “There’s nothing more originalist than packing the court.”

        You’re not going to like this, fucking adolescent ignoramus: You can’t read, and you are ignorant of history.
        1. The point is that the GOP is NOT packing courts; the lefty pile of shit just sort of decided to call it that in the hopes that the rest of us wouldn’t notice his lies. Sorta like you do every time you show up here, pod.
        2. The reference was to a Lincoln quote, and if you’d like to learn more, my rates are $375/hr, or $575/hr for lefty ingnoramuses.

        1. “2. The reference was to a Lincoln quote, and if you’d like to learn more, my rates are $375/hr, or $575/hr for lefty ingnoramuses.”

          You’re a brave man of unmeasurable patience Sevo.

          1. Actually, it has been measured, quite accurately: $575/hr.

      5. There’s nothing more originalist than packing the court

        Exhibit A:
        A post in which Stroozele doesn’t know what court packing actually means.

        1. George Washington packed the court adding six judges.

          1. Thus, the 6-pack.

            1. Thumbs up…

      6. You’re right: court packing is constitutional. So is secession. So Democrats pack the court and the Senate and a bunch of red States leave. How about that for an outcome?

  9. Don’t Cry For Me Portlandia.

  10. After reflecting on this feedback, we have decided to make changes to the policy and how we enforce it.

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  12. ” In which Trump does not appear to realize that The Babylon Bee is a satire site:”

    So you’re saying he got you ENB.

    1. Troll trolls trolls.

    2. That is a truly pathetic defense of our moron President.

      On the same day his son, Eric, embarrassed himself by saying in an interview that he thinks his dad was cured of COVID-19 that his dad created.

      1. That is a truly pathetic defense of our moron President

        That is a truly pathetic defense of your own naiveté.

      2. “…COVID-19 that his dad created.”

        Gee, the guy must have a bio-lab stuck somewhere in the WH! Either that, or WK is a fucking lefty ignoramus.

        1. Oops! I left out the word, vaccine. You got me on that one.

          1. But you agree youre a leftie ignoramus right?

            1. No, leaving this out would make me a libertarian ignoramus.

              1. No need to worry; you’ve been one for as long as you’ve posted here.

                1. I wouldn’t trade it for having anger management issues and no sense of humor.

              2. I agree that you are an ignoramus.

                1. He is also a leftitarian. Has never crossed even an imagined centrist line.

          2. Again. A little something extra in your coffee this morning? You’re getting pummeled repeatedly today.

      3. COVID-19 that his dad created

        I guess WK’s handler told him to crank up the stupidity.


      4. The White Knight
        October.16.2020 at 10:39 am
        That is a truly pathetic defense of our moron President”

        So you’re saying you fell for MY trolling.

      5. Ugh, I f’d up. Was supposed to say:

        On the same day his son, Eric, embarrassed himself by saying in an interview that he thinks his dad was cured of COVID-19 by a vaccine that his dad created.

        1. “Ugh, I f’d up.”

          Again!

        2. “Ugh, I f’d up.”

        3. “Ugh, I f’d up.”

          f1 would be a good shortcut for that.

        4. Ok, I thought you were implying that his dad created covid. Which had me wondering if you were Whoopi Goldberg.

          Still kinda do, actually. Haha.

    3. Well, they have repeatedly been correct in their predictions about media reactions in this new cycle. My favorite was “Trump shakes hands, ignoring lockdowns (during Israel peace deal)”, which was almost perfect match for CNN doing the article complaining about a lack of social distancing at the meeting.

  13. ENB cries for murderers. Not libertarian at all.

    1. I suppose she thinks that, when confronted with a man who murders political opponents then brags about it, a public safety officer should restrain herself when said man reaches inside his coat. After all, it might have been for a political tract, or a handkerchief.
      Perhaps she thinks the officers should have shot him in the leg.

    2. It is noteworthy that their is no condemnation of the man that committed the political assassination in the first place. Allegedly, on video.

    3. Right, because fuck due process.
      I’m not shedding any tears, the guy clearly was a politically motivated murderer and a piece of shit. But if they didn’t have to shoot him, they shouldn’t have. I currently have no opinion on whether the shooting was justified. I thought initial reports were that he was actually shooting at them. If that isn’t what happened, I’ll reconsider what I think of it.

      1. They were federal marshals. Did they shoot the dog first?

      2. I’m just asking: “Where is the bodycam footage?”

        And then realize that there’s somehow not a push to make feds wear bodycams.

  14. Ironically, @AjitPaiFCC is adding to the confusion by misstating the law. Section 230 does NOT convey “a special immunity denied to other media outlets, such as newspapers and broadcasters.” It applies all the same to social media companies, newspapers, broadcasters, you, and me.

    Section 230 is that rare rule written so perfectly that no law enforcement or court could misinterpret it.

    1. It is remarkably terse and simple to read, relative to almost everything else that comes out of Washington, D.C.

      1. Which explains why it has been stretched by courts to include contract laws as was explained yesterday with examples that you , like always, intentionally ignore or memory hole (both?)

        1. Know what’s SUPER EASY to read?

          The Second Amendment.

          Yet there seems to be dispute over its meaning.

          Odd.

          1. It is pretty easy to read. If that was supposed to be some kind of gotcha, I’m a libertarian, so I support the Second Amendment.

            1. Your a leftist fool or a paid troll.

        2. Didn’t see whatever you are referring to. Can you link to it?

    2. I’m also impressed that a site written by people who couldn’t find their asses with two hands is able to perfectly comprehend any law. Given how frequently they don’t know what the fuck they’re talking about.

  15. “S.F. might change 44 school names, renouncing Washington, Lincoln and even Dianne Feinstein”
    […]
    “A third of San Francisco public schools could see their names changed as officials push to replace “inappropriate” ones honoring presidents, writers, generals and even Sen. Dianne Feinstein.
    […]
    The panel includes 12 community members appointed by the superintendent and approved by the school board, as well as district staff members and board President Mark Sanchez.
    […]
    In a September meeting, panelist Mariposa Villaluna urged the committee to include Thomas Edison Elementary School on the list to change, saying he euthanized animals, including Topsy the elephant, according to a video of the meeting….”
    https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/S-F-might-change-44-school-names-renouncing-15651679.php?cmpid=gsa-sfgate-result

    San Francisco! At least it’s not, uh Portland?

    1. “S.F. might change 44 school names, renouncing Washington, Lincoln and even Dianne Feinstein”

      Feinstein hugged Lindsey Graham after the confirmation hearings, and the Progressive commenters on the Washington Post article about it want her sent to the wall.

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/10/16/feinstein-hug-graham-hearings/

    2. Feinstein has fallen out of progressive favor. Wow!

    3. I was told this was all about Confederate Generals. Trump was crazy when he said these idiots would eventually cancel Washington and Lincoln right?

      1. And Edison! Damn white guy invented things!

        1. Tesla finally vindicated?

        2. No, it was a black guy.

          1. Yeah, not really. The black guy improved on an existing product, but the light bulb had already been invented.

            1. His name was on the patent drawings for the electric light bulb because he was working for Edison as a patent draftsman.

              Fun fact: this reminds me of the story of Peter Puget who was the cartographer who wrote Puget Sound so large on the map he was drawing that it was mistakenly used to describe the body of water on which Seattle now sits. What is know as Puget Sound is actually an inlet and there is a small sound that carries the name Admiralty Inlet which the large inlet was supposed to be named.

        3. Electric lights are racist. Put all the lamplighters out of a job.

          1. Black lights are ok.

          2. With ACB on the court we can bring them all back!

      2. Just as crazy as when he said his campaign was being spied in. I’m starting to sense a pattern here.

    4. San Francisco — you know, the Khmer Rouge didn’t have that bad ideas. Year Zero sounds like a genius move!

  16. Holy Shit. Fist has recovered from his Novocaine and is on a mission.

  17. What confrontation ENB? Nothing is going on in Portland. Nothing is burning, there’s no looting. You told us so.

    You got your marching orders and filled these pages with globalist propaganda, and now you want to talk about details of 100 plus days of destruction you insist didn’t exist.

    You’re accidental donations to the Trump campaign are noted.

    1. Address her by her proper name, Auntie Fa.

    2. The political assassination is not important, how the cops treated it is.

  18. “But either way, the end of the mission is nothing to be bragging about. By many accounts, the officers didn’t even attempt to arrest Reinoehl peacefully.”

    Shame, that one.

  19. They = left wing Portland authorities
    We = Feds
    ENB = liar

    —-

    We sent in the U.S. Marshals. Took 15 minutes, it was over. Fifteen minutes, it was over—we got him,” Donald Trump told a crowd in North Carolina on Thursday. “They knew who he was. They didn’t want to arrest him, and 15 minutes—that ended.”

    1. Trump is a master at making these ambiguous, dog whistle statements.

      1. That makes you a dog.

        1. The phrase “dog whistle” does all the work, allowing White Knight to describe somebody as advocating a position at odds with what they actually proposed.
          Basically allowing him to misrepresent (lie) about Trump’s position. A common linguistic tic found in bad faith arguments.

          1. Lee Atwater gave the game away in 1981.

      2. Do you have a cite for this?

        1. Nice dog whistle, you racist.

  20. This week, Thurston County Sheriff’s Lt. Ray Brady said that Reinoehl’s hand may have been on a gun or may have been merely “near” the gun.

    HANDS UP DON’T SHOOT!

    LMFAO. God I can’t wait for more libertarian martyrs Reinoehl and Garrett Foster. Fuck around find out you stupid motherfuckers.

  21. In which Trump does not appear to realize that The Babylon Bee is a satire site:

    HAHA HE THOUGHT THEY WERE SERIOUS WHAT A RUBE!!!

    1. But it actually happened. Yesterday everyone who is ‘minor’ on the right on Twitter was blacked out. ‘Twitter is overloaded.’ ‘Sorry, we can’t post this right now.’ Etc.

      I think that Twitter realized it couldn’t kill the big accounts without legal blowback so it’s trying to cut off the oxygen by killing the retweeters.

      1. Cite?

        1. I loled

          1. Dee’s having a rough day. I might leave her alone the rest of the day.

        2. Me. And about a million others (you can read more through the magic of fucking Google).
          Would you like me to obtain a notary?

          1. All I see in google are statements by Twitter that they had an outage and it wasn’t caused by hacking. What is your source of special, secret knowledge?

            1. Who said anything about hacking? The accounts were deliberately blocked from posting by Twitter.

              Were you purposefully misunderstanding or did your reading comprehension crash.

    2. I like seeing things like this…the ol’ “Trump falls for it so let’s extrapolate it to mean all his supporters are idiots” fuckery.

      How about Trump supporters do the same thing? Hmmm…”Joe Biden sniffs little girls so all Biden supporters are pedophiles”…or “Hunter Biden is a crackhead so all Biden supporters are crackheads”…or “Willie Brown’s brown willy holster doesn’t understand the constitution so all her supporters are fucktards”…or “Jeffrey Epstein didn’t kill himself”.

      1. Where did anyone say that all his followers are idiots?

        1. Are you seriously claiming you’ve never seen anyone claim that?

          1. No, I’m saying nobody here said that. Not ENB, not me, not Chipper, nor any of the rest of the usual gang of Trump-criticizing idiots.

  22. The guy playing Security Agent (policeman) on behalf of WhitePortlandAntifa guns down an unarmed person who was fleeing, gets ID’d on video, brags about it, hides out, feds find him, fuck………..cop on cop.

  23. In which Trump does not appear to realize that The Babylon Bee is a satire site:

    Either ENB is an even bigger idiot than I imagined or she has assumed the mantle of full out propagandist.

    The Babylon Bee wasn’t parody. Twitter did restrict posting and page access yesterday for everyone that the algorithms judged “conservative” (and probably a lot of lefty’s who read conservatives tweets to fling poo).

    1. And I mean that the Bee is parody, but they were telling the truth.

    2. WaPo fact checkers are on the case, don’t worry.

    3. ENB is a gigantic idiot, see yesterdays roundup. Even the fucking atlantic agreed Twitter and Facebook were censoring news.

  24. After a woman used a racial slur outside a grocery store in Pennsylvania, “the Allegheny County District Attorney’s Office determined that the woman’s alleged conduct supports the ‘charging of several violations.'”

    Free minds baby!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    1. Hmmmm? Overloaded cart in the fast lane or parking in the handicap spot? Let’s wait for the video.

      1. I’m going with not returning her cart.

  25. They knew who he was, they didn’t want to arrest him and 15 minutes that ended …

    The “they” here could be Portland officials and not the police. In fact, it likely does.

    1. Yet Trump has circuitry in his brain that is really good at spitting out these ambiguous phrasings.

      1. As opposed to, Well, you know, the – the thing . . .

        C’mon, man . . .

        And I’m still trying to figure out what a ‘dog-faced pony soldier’ is.

        1. Neither major party candidate is a prize catch.

      2. … and a large segment of the population that insists on responding to Trump as neurotically as possible.

        He has a lot of help in that.

    2. Not that I care much but the murderer might be alive today if Portland wasn’t run and policed by giant pussies.

  26. Biden said police should shoot people in the leg as a deescalation tactic…

    Biden is asking for heroically good aim during a pants-wetting panic fire situation.

    1. This is typical of the progressive mindset. He demands strict adherence to a ridiculous plan/ideal and wonders why it never works in the real world.

      1. Yes. Shooting them in the leg doesn’t disarm them. You need to shoot the gun out of their hand.

        1. Have the cops watch old westerns as training videos

    2. He’s also suggesting shooting someone in a location that could very well lead to them bleeding out rapidly. Hit the femoral artery and it’s game over.

      In comparison, shooting someone center of mass (like police are currently trained to do) can be less deadly than that. A gut shot, while painful, typically keeps someone alive long enough for medical attention. Femoral artery means they’re almost definitely dead before the ambulance gets there.

      1. Do you know how many perps take tap-dancing lessons just to fuck with police sharp-shooters?

    3. Can you imagine the civil rights lawsuits after they start shooting perps in the dick?

      1. Goddamit, Butters.

    4. Luckily, missing a leg and hitting pavement will cause the bullet to stop immediately, keeping bystanders safe.

  27. “But either way, the end of the mission is nothing to be bragging about. By many accounts, the officers didn’t even attempt to arrest Reinoehl peacefully.”

    I have a hard time believing that a murderer on the run from authorities had any intent to surrender peacefully.

    1. What are you talking about? He was a saint! I heard he was pursuing his double PhD and was ready to open an orphanage before Trump personally murdered him.

      1. He was a good kid.

        1. A good 48 year old kid.

      2. It’s a disgrace the newspapers couldn’t find his 12 year-old school picture.

  28. It’s an article of faith in the United States that more speech is better and that the government should regulate it as little as possible. But increasingly, scholars of constitutional law, as well as social scientists, are beginning to question the way we have come to think about the First Amendment’s guarantee of free speech. They think our formulations are simplistic — and especially inadequate for our era. Censorship of external critics by the government remains a serious threat under authoritarian regimes. But in the United States and other democracies, there is a different kind of threat, which may be doing more damage to the discourse about politics, news and science. It encompasses the mass distortion of truth and overwhelming waves of speech from extremists that smear and distract.

    1. It takes more than legal restraints against government power to have a free society. For a society to be free, it has to want to be free and value freedom. Increasingly, people don’t value free speech as much as they should. Reason has become a symptom of that problem. They seem unable to judge or condemn any behavior by the private sector to restrict speech and the free flow of ideas. Just because the government isn’t doing it, doesn’t mean it is a good idea or something to be defended. Reason in their own way is just as obsessed with government as any leftist.

      1. Almost every single article on Reason says that companies like Twitter *should not* limit free expression- including the one in yesterday’s Roundup that was otherwise stupid semantic needling. It is even in the headline (“Dumb Idea”).

        1. So you missed the first paragraph where ENB defended them because censorship only applied to government in her view? Well thats a dishonest take.

          1. I said she did a bunch of stupid semantic needling. So I did not miss that part. It was stupid.

            John is asserting that Reason (and myself, perhaps) do not care about speech in the private space. But we do- we just don’t think that is more important than government regulation of the same.

            Now, I know that Twitter’s transgressions are more important to you. It is your ox being gored, after all. I will happily call on Twitter to stop being douchebags (and reason has tended to do the same), but I will not condone giving the government the power to STOP them from being douchebags. Because that is an even worse impact on free speech.

            1. its not very libertarian but maybe the government should instead regulate or license the factcheckers the oligarchs pretend are independent of their own biases. it only defers the problem of course till the next time the government is owned by ‘their side’.
              In the end deciding on criteria for proper factchecking will become like a project to define real art.

    2. I assume the rest of the article is where the NYT comes clean about the real reason they’re upset by the “mass distortion of truth and overwhelming waves of speech from extremists that smear and distract”. They’re losing their near monopoly on it.

  29. So Reason’s first mention of leftist hit squads murdering people for their political views is to whine about the murderer getting shot by Feds…

    Enemy of the People, legitimate targets

    1. The guy murdered someone on video. Then ran when a warrant was issued for his arrest. Then when the feds came to pick him up, he confronted them with a gun and ended up dead.

      Yet, ENB thinks the problem is that the agents shot the guy and has no problem with Antifa murdering someone for having the wrong politics. I am sorry, but your real feelings are revealed not by your words but by your actions and your priorities. And ENB is telling us here that she really doesn’t have any issue with leftist political violence.

      1. It is also revealing that she refers to the cold blooded murder of Danielson as a “confrontation,” as though there was some sort of stand off between the two men, rather than accurately reporting that that Reinoehl killed Danielson without any provocation or warning. Danielson was literally killed for existing at that particular moment in time.

        1. DAnielson was unarmed. It was cold blooded murder.

          1. Sure, but they found an American flag on his corpse — so, you know, both sides.

            1. American flags are racist, so, you’re right…

  30. http://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1317105181427990528?s=19

    Biden supports 8 and 10 year olds right to declare themselves trans

    1. “I’m the proud mom of two girls, eight and ten. My youngest daughter is transgender.”

      Any adult convinced that pre-pubescent minors have the capacity to determine their own gender is thoroughly delusional and a danger to their children.

      The normalization of this type of child abuse, and the Democrats’ willingness to accept it as a sign of virtue, is sickening.

      1. Understanding how common this is becoming, it is easy to see why people are easily convince of pedophiles in the government.

        1. That and Epstein didn’t kill himself.

        2. Hey, if an 8 year old can make this decision for themselves who’s to say they can’t consent to sex?

        3. They condone 10 year old drag queens dancing in strip clubs.

        4. Almost worse is the folks who aren’t even parents pushing it. A friend’s 11 year old daughter cut her hair short. The teacher asked her if she was trans. Really freaked her out, honestly.

      2. Sadly, it seems to be another liberal white women fashion trend to make their child even more special, which will of course require more specialized treatment in the school. Another way to spark outrage when the school does not do it ‘just so’ on an ever changing field of need and expression.
        It is child abuse. Parents are creepy that do this. If Hollywood loves it it can’t be good…

        1. We need to start calling it out for what it is – a form of Munchausen by Proxy

      3. >>My youngest daughter is transgender.

        so was a boy and is now a girl?

        1. It’s a fluid situation.

          1. good puns recently

        2. What difference, at this point, does it make?

          1. literally don’t know and will not google.

      4. I just want somebody to answer why being gay is something you cannot change, but being FEMALE is something you can.

        That is utterly illogical.

        1. I’m not necessarily agreeing with this position, and forgive me if I get it wrong, but I believe the position is that being female is not something you can change. They maintain that a transgender woman was always a woman, but nature needed to be corrected.

          So it is internally consistent, if that matters.

  31. So the guy who admitted to murdering someone in cold blood and had a loaded weapon in his waste mind and is a certifiable nut job is the next “bum” martyr?

    Ok sure. That can be added to the scum that attacked Kyle Rittenhouse.

    All of the above are definitely nominees for this years Darwin Awards. That is the only adulation they deserve.

    1. Well, the site did memorialize an antifa thug who threatened a driver with a rifle. That the thug was shot is amusing.

      That the LP ALSO memorialized the goon is why I will literally never consider voting for an LP candidate for any office ever.

  32. Some people noticed a black woman wearing a red mask who happened to agree with things Trump was saying…

    http://twitter.com/BiasedGirl/status/1316931813319868416?s=19

    They doxxed some lady for nodding her head.

    This is where we are.

    1. The left is just disgusting. It is not that all of them are as horrible as the people on Twitter. They are not. It is that the ones who are not seem incapable of standing up or condemning the ones who are.

      1. Violence and threats of violence makes callous brutes out of even the saintliest of people. The price for standing up to these kinds of tactics is becoming a target yourself. Most people do not want to deal with it, so they just slink away in fear in the hope that, if only they behave and comply, things will blow over.

    2. Rod Serling correct.

    3. And for having what looked to be an amazing rack.

  33. http://twitter.com/ReaganBattalion/status/1316805402995101696?s=19

    .@NYGovCuomo is sending around plainclothes agents to photograph the inside of synagogues to make sure that no one is praying.

    Are we back to 1930’s Nazi Germany?

  34. http://twitter.com/adamhousley/status/1316986748354785281?s=19

    1/6 ok here we go: you guys know my affinity for FBI field agents and the work they do every min of every day. You also know the frustration that exists with many of those agents and many of you with FBI headquarters…now this.
    2/6 This is no October surprise…this actually falls flatly on the back of the FBI that failed to address this beginning more than one year ago and came out now also due to a series of keystone cop decisions by Republican staffers to flat ignore this family for months.
    3/6 I am a reporter and I now have direct knowledge of the timeline and other info. Throughout this entire process JP and his family…dad is a Vietnam Vet…have done everything by the book. They were first rebuffed in September 2019 by the FBI…that’s no October surprise.
    4/6 They made multiple approaches to the FBI in 2019 because JO was concerned about what he saw when he recovered the the info from hard drives as requested. It is completely normal to see stuff during this process.
    5/6 JP finally met with agents Joshua Williams and Mike Dzielak in late November of 2019…so it took the FBI 2 full months to finally meet up with him. JP offered to give the agents all the material…everything without any compensation or requests.
    6/6 So my questions for the FBI. Why did FBI obtain subpoena for the hard drive when JP freely offered it to them two different times? Was it part of a grand jury process? More importantly, why didn’t this get divulged during the impeachment process? These are fair questions
    You should care about these questions and demand answers no matter where you stand politically. We deserve all truths.

  35. (from critical to supportive)

    like to see those numbers.

  36. https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2020/10/13/exclusive-sean-spicer-book-excerpt-revealed-all-the-family-ties-between-the-elite-and-the-establishment-press/

    At one point, Chris even admitted on-air he could not be objective when it came to covering his brother. He was simply amazing. But let’s make sure we are clear, Fox and President Trump have an “inappropriate relationship” but Cuomo on Cuomo is nothing but straight-up news for the very network that defines itself as “the most trusted name in news.”

    There are also many former Democratic staffers who now work in the media and others who have long family ties to the Democratic Party.

    NBC senior political analyst Jonathan Allen left Politico to work for DNC chairwoman and congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Shultz, and then he went back to Politico. Former MSNBC host Chris Matthews had worked for President Jimmy Carter and worked for six years as chief of staff to Democratic House Speaker Tip O’Neill. CNN’s Jake Tapper worked for Democratic con- gresswoman Marjorie Margolies-Mezvinsky (who now happens to be Chelsea Clinton’s mother-in-law) and the left-wing group Handgun Control Inc. ABC’s George Stephanopoulos worked for President Bill Clinton. Chuck Todd, NBC’s political director and host of Meet the Press, worked for the 1992 presidential campaign of Democratic senator Tom Harkin of Iowa.

    Stop and think about this for a minute. The very people who are covering the politics of the day have partisan backgrounds. Some are more transparent about their political proclivities than others. Matthews, who was admittedly an opinion host, has always been clear about his Democratic background. But it’s safe to assume that most viewers or readers are not aware of the political bias that goes into so-called unbiased journalism.

    Furthermore, there are several other reporters and hosts at mainstream news outlets whose spouses have connections to prominent Democratic figures. One prominent host is married to a former advisor to a Democrat presidential candidate. Another host’s wife has an extensive and ongoing history of raising money for Democrat candidates while a third has a long history of advocating for far left-leaning causes. Do they ever note that conflict? I hope you aren’t surprised when I say no. If you are going to grill a Republican candidate on abortion and your wife has actively lobbied on behalf of organizations that promote abortion, that might be an issue. Or it might be worth noting if your spouse has done fund-raising for a certain guest appearing on your show.

  37. Ironically, @AjitPaiFCC is adding to the confusion by misstating the law.

    No, it’s not “ironic”. You fuckers wanted the government to regulate the internet, enforce Net Neutrality, and now you’re bitching about how the government is regulating the internet and shocked – shocked! – to find that government regulation is for sale to the highest bidder? Fuck you. Do a google search for “regulatory capture” or even “history of the human race”. What the fuck were you expecting you assholes?

  38. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/11/biden-bankruptcy-president/

    Late in Biden’s 1996 reelection campaign, a consultant working for his Republican opponent pushed a troubling story: The senator had sold his home to an executive from the credit card company MBNA for double its appraised value. MBNA called the story “viciously false,” and Biden pushed back hard enough that his opponent fired the consultant. True, he had sold his house to an MBNA executive—but at its appraised value. Not long after that, though, the company hired Biden’s youngest son, Hunter, and the criticism stuck: Biden became, to his detractors, “the senator from MBNA.” (Hunter’s corporate affiliations have once again become an issue for Biden. His son’s role on the board of a Ukrainian energy company while Biden oversaw the Obama administration’s Ukraine policy has fueled corruption accusations and conspiracy-mongering by Republican critics; Donald Trump’s effort to force Ukraine to investigate the Bidens is now at the center of the impeachment inquiry.)

  39. He reported the ‘hack’ to the FBI, which is a crime on his part

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/10/c-span-suspends-steve-scully-after-he-admitted-he-lied-that-his-twitter-account-was-hacked/
    C-SPAN Suspends Steve Scully After He Admitted He Lied That His Twitter Account Was Hacked

    1. is it a crime if nobody believed it?

    2. Fake news.

      He never said “I was hacked”

      He said “I’m a hack”

    3. What letter does he place behind his name, D or R? Cuz this seems to matter to the FBI for certain types of crimes.

  40. https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/stop-being-shocked

    The new creed’s premise goes something like this: We are in a war in which the forces of justice and progress are arrayed against the forces of backwardness and oppression. And in a war, the normal rules of the game—due process; political compromise; the presumption of innocence; free speech; even reason itself—must be suspended. Indeed, those rules themselves were corrupt to begin with—designed, as they were, by dead white males in order to uphold their own power.

    “The master’s tools will never dismantle the master’s house,” as the writer Audre Lorde put it. And the master’s house must be dismantled—because the house is rotted at its foundation.

    The beating heart of this new ideology is critical race theory. The legal scholar Angela Harris put it concisely in her foreword to Critical Race Theory: An Introduction:

    Unlike traditional civil rights discourse, which stresses incrementalism and step-by-step progress, critical race theory questions the very foundations of the liberal order, including equality theory, legal reasoning, Enlightenment rationalism, and neutral principles of constitutional law.
    Critical race theory says there is no such thing as neutrality, not even in the law, which is why the very notion of colorblindness—the Kingian dream of judging people not based on the color of their skin but by the content of their character—must itself be deemed racist. Racism is no longer about individual discrimination. It is about systems that allow for disparate outcomes among racial groups. If everyone doesn’t finish the race at the same time, then the course must have been flawed and should be dismantled.

  41. “On NBC, Trump spread major misinformation about masks, claiming erroneously that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said “that 85 percent of the people wearing masks catch” COVID-19.”

    ENB is lying again (i.e. repeating lies by other left wing anti Trumpers who claim to be journalists).

    The CDC study at
    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6936a5.htm
    found that 71% of Covid patients reported they ALWAYS wore a mask in public areas during the 14 preceding days, while 14% of Covid patients reported wearing them OFTEN.

    Trump’s claim about the CDC study was correct.

    1. Not quite. Read that quote again. It’s quite possible and likely that he mis-spoke (or mis-tweeted), but it is definitely not true that 85% of people wearing masks catch covid, rather, 85% of people who test positive did wear masks most or all of the time in public.

      Or is the quote not what he actually said?

    1. Worse than Vogon poetry.

  42. https://twitter.com/joshdcaplan/status/1316880936215191553

    ARIZONA REPUBLIC: Campaign spokesperson for Democrat Senate candidate Mark Kelly apologizes for calling police “worthless f*cking pigs”

    1. Kelly hired this guy a week after he made that quote. Not going over well here.

      1. Possibly. But ballots came in last week, and a lot of people have already filled them out and dropped them in the mail. It will be interesting to see how or if this factors into the final tally.

        1. If the GOP win all branches, do away with early voting. Period. And require actual reasons for absentee ballots. Verifiable ones. No same day registration.

          And, most important, a total purge of ALL voter rolls and re-doing it from scratch. And require it to be done every 10 years at minimum.

        2. Why do you want to make it harder to vote?
          I honestly don’t understand why conservatives hate voting?

          Fraud is non existent.

          1. this is parody account caliber stuff here

  43. “• After a woman used a racial slur outside a grocery store in Pennsylvania, “the Allegheny County District Attorney’s Office determined that the woman’s alleged conduct supports the ‘charging of several violations.'” But Gisele Barreto Fetterman, the target of the slur and the wife of Pennsylvania Lt. Gov. John Fetterman, told police she didn’t want to press charges.”

    In fact, Gov Wolf’s press release, not the county DA’s office, claimed there were “several violations of the Pennsylvania Crime Code, but never mentioned which ones were violated. But of course the 1st Amendment of the US Constitution protects freedom of speech.

    Ironically, Giselle Fetterman is white, and was called the n word by a woman who appeared to have major mental health issues.

  44. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/15/opinion/sway-kara-swisher-alex-stamos.html?smid=tw-share

    In part one of Sway’s two-part election integrity series, Kara Swisher speaks to Alex Stamos, former Facebook chief information security officer and current director of the Stanford Internet Observatory, about what went wrong in 2016 and what Big Tech can do better in 2020.

    Mr. Stamos — known in Silicon Valley for his willingness to speak truth to power — rose to national prominence when he departed Facebook amid disagreement about the tech giant’s handling of Russian interference in the last presidential election.

    As Election Day draws nearer, social media platforms are amending their policies around political advertising, disinformation warnings and moderation of online groups like QAnon. But how do these decisions get made? What do these platforms plan to do if there is a contested presidential election? And whom can we really trust?

  45. Someone is upset because Gal Gadot was cast to play Cleopatra.

    (CNN)History has a way of repeating itself.

    I’ve written about controversy surrounding White actors portraying characters of color — a practice that has existed throughout Hollywood’s history — multiple times.
    In the most recent iteration of this pattern, Israeli-born actress Gal Gadot has been cast to play Cleopatra, ancient queen of Egypt, in an upcoming film that will reunite her with “Wonder Woman” director Patty Jenkins.

    You see, Egypt is in Africa so only blacks can play Egyptians.

    1. Cleopatra was Greek, god damm it you idiots.

      1. At least half. Nobody knows who the mother was.

        1. Odds are Mom was also named Cleopatra, Pop was Ptolemy and her parents were also her aunt and uncle. Her depictions in her busts and coinage pretty eliminates her from being related to the complainer.

      2. And Egyptians are Semitic

        1. Bill DeBlasio has entered the chat.

        2. Hamites, not Semites, but fairly closely related. “Afro-Asiatic.”

      3. In other news, the remake of Breaker Morant will have an all-black cast.

        1. Just to be clear – you’re joking, right?

        2. In “The Witches” remake all Norwegians will be played by black actors.

    2. Guaranteeing I will watch this movie. With the sound off.

    3. The best part is the woman calling Gal Gadot a “plain Cleopatra”. Gadot is one of the few no shit movie screen goddesses out there. She is about as “plain” as the Sistine Chapel.

      1. John, yeah, Gal is hot…but is she MICHELLE Obama hot?

        Or, should Biden win, is she KAMALA HARRIS hot?

        1. you just made me throw up in my mouth a little bit

      2. The bitch is the size of a damn hamroast, so she has to throw shade at a woman that nearly every black man would happily fuck over her.

    4. “The haters can kiss my asp.”

      1. Nice.

    5. I betcha the writer is also upset that Chante Jawan Mallard was played by white women, a white man and an Indian women in all adaptions of her story.

    6. Not really a surprise that the complainer is some fat Shaniqua who doesn’t want to face the fact that her ancestors were the ones getting their asses kicked by other African tribes.

  46. http://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1317057909927325700?s=19

    Thank you LIBERTARIANS. We are getting it all done, and FAST! VOTE TRUMP!!!

    1. Of course Gary Johnson is mad because it’s Trump pulling the troops out of Afghanistan.

      https://twitter.com/GovGaryJohnson/status/1317142725268033540

      How’d this bitter establishment catamite get the libertarian nod again?

      1. That’s really disappointing. He used to actually be cool.

  47. I don’t know if this is a legitimate shooting. There are some details which can increase the presumption in the govt’s favor – namely, that this guy shot someone to death then refused to turn himself in and was walking around with a gun.

    Maybe this doesn’t *prove* it was a good shoot but I’ll need more than the word of the NYT that it wasn’t.

    1. Didn’t the media generally consider Waco to be a “good shoot” because religious extremists?

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  49. “The president isn’t helping. “We sent in the U.S. Marshals. Took 15 minutes, it was over. Fifteen minutes, it was over—we got him,” Donald Trump told a crowd in North Carolina on Thursday. “They knew who he was. They didn’t want to arrest him, and 15 minutes—that ended.”

    A benefit-of-the-doubt reading here would be that Trump’s “they” who “didn’t want to arrest” was a reference to the Portland police—who hadn’t yet arrested Reinoehl by the time the task force intervened—and not an admission that agents didn’t want to take Reinoehl in alive (as some have been reading it).”

    Giving Trump the benefit-of-the-doubt is insane, or law enforcement foolish, or any in government unwise.

    “There is no safety for honest men except by believing all possible evil of evil men.” ~ Edmund Burke

    These task forces are becoming very like political, maybe even presidential, hit squads whacking random citizens that stick their heads up with criticism of government enforcement and enforcers. Both Reinoehl and Finicum ran afoul of presidents that have fully embraced “…reward our friends and punish our enemies…” as their domestic agendas.

    Trump is Obama’s third term.

    1. Reinhold wasn’t in Portland when he was killed. He was in Lacey Washington. The Portland police and Oregon State Police have no jurisdiction there.

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  51. I’m surethe reason commenters believe because he was a leftist/Antifa/BLM thug the feds were justified in the summary execution of the guy.
    Yet these same folks are probably convinced LaVoy Finnicum was murdered. He wasn’t although he deserved to be because he was Mormon and ran a foster home where he forced his batshit religion and traitorous political beliefs on the kids. He supported himself with money he got for his foster kids from the government. I guess big government is only bad if he’s not benefitting.

    Anyways the Portland guy should of been captured and put on trial. Kyle Rittenhouse has been given that opportunity. In my opinion if his parents knowingly allowed him to go to Kenosha armed then they should be charged with something. Allowing a 17 year old to go armed to a civil disturbance to “protect businesses’ is beyond bad judgement. It’s criminal.

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