Donald Trump

How Gun Politics Could Hurt Hillary

Matt Welch talks 2016 politics on tonight's Kennedy at 8 p.m. ET

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Not only does presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton tweet terrible Venn Diagrams about gun control, she is also arguably running the most gun-grabby campaign by a major-party politician since at least Al Gore in 2000, stressing the primacy of manufacturer liability, praising Australia's confiscation regime, blaming Bernie Sanders' Vermont for New York gun crimes, and so forth. All of which makes presumptive GOP nominee Donald Trump, whose views on gun rights have evolved over the years, seem, perhaps improbably, more in line with popular opinion.

I will be talking about that and much, much more—including Hillary vs. Bernie—on the Fox Business Network program Kennedy tonight at 8 p.m. (with a repeat at midnight). Tune in!

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  1. What? Being over the top anti-2nd amendment is going to hurt her? Nah, say it isn’t so, she’s the overwhelming favorite no matter what she does.

    She’s lost about 50% more of her lead in Ohio, Florida, and PA polls since yesterday, she’s unbeatable.

    1. Say what you will about Clinton, she’s old school politics. Meaning she should be smart enough to pivot to the center during the general. If she’s smart and wants to beat Trump, she’ll drop the gun politics faster than a bad transmission.

      I said in a previous thread that I’m becoming more circumspect about Clinton beating Trump in the general by the day. That doesn’t mean I think he’ll win, but if Hillary hangs on to guaranteed losers– gun control– then she’s essentially handing Trump voters for free.

      My guess is, during her next sweep through West Virginia, she’ll have completely forgotten her comments about destroying the coal industry.

      1. She’s too deep in, she can’t swing back now. She’s stuck with the anti-2nd amendment crap and all of the free college, free everything shit that Bernie forced her into. She’s way, way too deep to turn back now.

        1. She’s in so deep that Bernie is complaining about his stool getting knocked loose.

          1. complain? the way he looks i bet it’s been stuck there for 30 years.

            1. Bernie: We Need a New Movement!

              1. He’s not a Socialist, he’s a Democratic Socialaxative!

              2. *guilty clap while trying to narrow gaze*

                1. Lizards can’t narrow haze.

                  1. gaze

            2. So you HAVEN’T been listening to the radio ads, I guess. The ones with impressions of Bernie, Hillary, & I guess what’s supposed to be the Donald but sounds more like one of the Kennedys, probably Jack.

          2. You’ve been listening to the Squatty Potty ads?

            1. Got my dad one of those and then tried it out myself first. Have to say it does aherm get things going, so to speak…

        2. Yeah, but that’s her Primary message.

          She’s way, way too deep to turn back now.

          BTW, a Clinton is never in too deep to change message.

          1. Umm, I have to disagree this time. Especially since the DNC are already very angry with Bernie because he refuses to do the gun pants shitting death dance. Hilary can’t go back on that now, even if she wanted to, which she don’t.

            1. Um, Hillary Clinton is the DNC.

          2. Videos of her gun-grabby campaign speeches are going to make perfect ads in swing states in the fall.

      2. Aren’t we in the general? Neither Clinton nor Trump needs to do anything to win the nomination. They are now christened as the Presumptive Nominees. The pandering to the base should have stopped about 2 weeks ago.

        1. Technically, Bernie is still alive. That doesn’t matter though.

          At this point, Hillary has made her bed and she’s going to lie in it. After that retarded diagram she made about gun control? It would be like her trying to take back the thing about coal now. It can’t be done.

          1. Yes – we have these things called video recordings now and they seem to last a long time. And unlike 3 or 4 decades ago, they can’t disappear into the libraries of cooperative mainstream media outlets.

      3. I agree? Clinton’s going to have a tough time beating Trump.

        Just looking at the sheer number of Team Red primary voters (25,870,742) vs. Team Blue primary voters (22,947,023), Team Blue has 2,923,719 voter deficit to overcome.

      4. If her definition of general smartness has anything to do with her execution of “smart” diplomacy, I think we know how that will end….

      5. Meaning she should be smart enough to pivot to the center during the general. If she’s smart and wants to beat Trump, she’ll drop the gun politics faster than a bad transmission.

        Fuck that shit. She and her followers are rabid anti gunners and she will pivot to appointing gun grabbing Supreme Court and other judges, a gun grabbing Attorney General and any other bureaucrat who pushes that agenda. That’s her pivot strategy.

        And if she forgets the war on coal when she swings through West Virginia, she will goddam well remember it if she ends up in the White House.

      6. …and she’ll do it with a southern twang.

  2. Considering it was her very own husband who told the DNC to shut up about guns because they kept getting waxed at the polls, I would say it’s going to hurt her.

    1. She’ll be toast if she stays with gun control. Her campaign is obviously living in a derp bubble if they think otherwise.

    2. Yeah, but Bill is possibly his generations consummate politician. Hillary is a consummate harpy. If Hillary were guaranteed the win if she were just to take a less far left proggie stance on _one_ issue, she’d still lose.

    3. “Considering it was her very own husband who told the DNC to shut up about guns because they kept getting waxed at the polls, I would say it’s going to hurt her.”

      Not enough pillow talk. With Bill, that is. Huma maybe.

  3. Matt’s gonna be on tv? Woo hoo! I finally get to see what he looks like! I bet he’s like dreamy and stuff, you know?

    1. Hopefully Matt learned his lesson about telling his neighbors he’s appearing on Fox.

      1. Cocktail party un-invite?

    2. Im not gay but he’s very pretty.

      1. So he can pee in the lady’s room?

        1. We can all pee in the lady’s room now, brothers.

          1. Ummm, didn’t you mean “sisters”

            1. Whatever

          2. One of my female friends has started using the men’s restroom like it’s her constitutional right. It’s hilarious. I pee in the stalls anyway, so stuff like that doesn’t affect me.

            1. I pee in the stalls anyway

              THIS IS HOW THEY WIN

            2. I pee in the stalls anyway…

              Am I the only one who read this as “I pee in the halls“?

              1. I am the one who pees…

            3. “I pee in the stalls anyway”

              Sitting down, I’m sure.

  4. Virginia supplies more guns to New York than Pennsylvania?

    I’m kind of proud.

    1. Confirmed. We supply New York with T and F. How are we on A and E?

      1. Depends on whether moonshine is counted or not.

        1. Regarding the E, check out http://skylighter.com in Round Hill, Va.

  5. Prices are depressing. Looked at a SIG 716 a year ago or so at like 1650. Now it’s 500 more. Everything is ridiculas.

  6. I’ll be on The View next Wednesday as a representative of smug, anonymous internet commenters. With a bag over my head, I’ll be making the case for arming kindergarteners and convicted murderers. Wish me luck.

    1. The View? Only 3 people will be tuning in, why would we care?

      1. You’ll miss me trying to wax Whoopie’s back without a license. But if you’re too busy for high quality TV…

        1. You brave warrior, but me thinks I no want see.

        2. that’s appointment television right there. but did they contract you to do the two-part episode it will undoubtedly require?

        3. Whoopi: But guns kill our niggars!
          staffinrun: It’s not really murder-murder.

          1. You guys are killing me.

    2. only retarded “progressives” talk about “arming children”.
      people who have no common sense or are dishonest,trying to create a strawman.

      use a plastic bag (over your head),and tie it TIGHT.

      1. WOOSH!

  7. Look, ya’ll are just wrong about Hillary. To see how, read this, the most enlightened article ever written about HRC, why do they hate her? The answer may shock you.

    Why does everyone not love Hillary?

  8. Look, ya’ll are just wrong about Hillary. To see how, read this, the most enlightened article ever written about HRC, why do they hate her? The answer may shock you.

    Why does everyone not love Hillary?

    1. Damn squirrels! I skin you alive!

      1. Part of Team Bolton eh?

        1. He cuts their little pecker off first.

    2. Looking back on political figures, I can truly say that there are only a handful of people I could really get vein-popping angry about.

      ? Sarah Palin (not because she’s a woman; because she’s a moron).

      ? Donald Trump.

      ? Ted Cruz (but he looks like a Care Bear now).

      That’s about it, and I’m a political cartoonist.

      Oh, so that explains why this guy is dumber than my cat’s last shit.

      1. This fellow is an embarrassment to cartoonists.

        He’s an embarrassment to people who draw wangs on pictures of people they don’t like.

        1. Notorious 8=====D

          1. [Someone I don’t like] when excited 8=D

      2. Yeah there was no misogyny directed at Palin from the left.

        1. left-derp: IT’S DIFFERENT WHEN WE DO IT

          1. Yeah, but she was asking for it!!!1!!

    3. “Columnist argues that rage against the candidate boils down to misogyny”

      We hate pussy. Forget the graft, money laundering, her own misogyny, enabling and defending rapists, selling out her country, breathtaking incompetence, transparent sociopathy, and a murdered ambassador. Its because pussy.

      Yeah. Thats it.

      1. So what you’re saying is that you’re not down with OPP?

        1. The good old days, when hip hop was still good. I love that song.

        2. You link this every chance you get, don’t you?

          Not that I’m complaining. Just saying.

          1. Who links what? Sorry, I wasn’t sure if you were replying to me or Suthenboy.

            1. Who links what? Sorry, I wasn’t sure if you were replying to me or Suthenboy.

              HM, re: O.P.P. Quality jam.

    4. She might even lose to a guy who runs (enables) beauty pageants, which is the human equivalent of a stockyard auction for women

      Fuck you. You know what the actual “human equivalent of a stockyard auction for women” is? The stockyard auctions of women currently occur in ISIS-occupied Syria and Iraq.

      1. First world problems

      2. But that’s George W. Bush’s fault.

    5. The only thing worse than editorial cartoonists? is when editorial cartoonists try to express their idiotic opinions using the English language.

      1. *Bagge excluded of course, tho i don’t consider him an ‘editorial’…you know.

        1. There’s an exception to everything.

          Everything.

          And this sentence is false.

    6. People could only hate Hillary Clinton because they’re misogynists. BTW, I hate Sarah Palin, but it’s only because she’s dumb, not because she’s a woman. TOTALLY DIFFERENT!

    7. Looking back on political figures, I can truly say that there are only a handful of people I could really get vein-popping angry about.

      ? Sarah Palin (not because she’s a woman; because she’s a moron).

      ? Donald Trump.

      ? Ted Cruz (but he looks like a Care Bear now).

      What is this guy, 19 years old?

      It makes me want to strangle kittens when people claim the worst human beings in politics are from the last 3 years.

  9. The media fear mongering surrounding political rallies and the Trump campaign, as well as the violence that is sure to take place during the conventions, combined with the alarmist coverage of the terror threat, makes gun-control a sure winner.

    The extraordinary policy wonk Hillary Clinton strikes again.

    1. She’s gonna need a bigger RESET button for this one…

    2. She’s a regular Machiavelli

  10. There’s nothing strange about Trump’s statements being in line with public opinion. His only consistent policy position has been “telling the audience what it wants to hear”. 🙂

  11. Of she’s gonna base her campaign on saying stuff that contradicts what her husband says and does, she should have at least come out strong against pedophelia.

    1. She is too smart for that. With a cloth, or something.

      WDATPDIM?

      1. “I’m the only one with a plan to help the coal miners in West Virginia. A.30.BILLION.DOLLAR.PLAN”, *BARF*

  12. “How Gun Politics Could Hurt Hillary”

    Careful Matt, suggestions like that could get you a visit from the SS.

  13. OT: Funny cause I bet they don’t boycott when they’re told to work Klan rallies.

    http://libertyunyielding.com/2…..ice-views/

  14. OT: Funny cause I bet they don’t boycott when they’re told to work Klan rallies.

    http://libertyunyielding.com/2…..ice-views/

  15. WHYCOME RAESON DONT NEVER POST STOREES AGAIN HILLARY FOR

    1. I shamed Matt into it.

  16. Will it help Tuesday Weld’s cousin?

    1. Tuesday’s gone.

      1. WARE MY OBSCURE REFERNCE GONE

  17. I’m teh disappoint at the lack of Alan Young obituaries. The guy was Scrooge McDuck and Mr. Ed! That is good for some lame pop-culture references and proclamations of the inevitability of a certain something!

      1. Woo Hoo

        1. *Woo-o-oo

      2. Easy there mate! *presses panic button

      3. Mmmmmm 8-bit nostalgia.

  18. I’m guessing today’s National Review NeverGaryJohnson article has already made the rounds

    http://www.nationalreview.com/…..servatives

    1. He’s Not Conservative and Not Even All That Libertarian

      That doesn’t even make any sense. But I’m sure they’re unaware of that.

    2. The NR cucks get it right for once.

      1. NR will really shit their pants if the LP noms McAfee.

  19. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itkg_fYcneg

    Go ahead. Try and not laugh.

    1. His brother is so much funnier…

    2. What happened to norm mcdonalds face? he looks like he had botox shots then was stung by a lot of bees or something.

      1. Yeh? What happened to your fucken face, huh? Eh?

        1. What does The Weekend have to say?

      2. My first thought was renal failure – damn, he’s swolled up.

        1. I’m guessing he’s on intravenous steroids for some condition — that’s the classic look from that

          1. someone else speculated he had health problems then (2013-2014). He looks more normal now

    1. See the violence inherent in the system

      1. Indeed!

          1. Geez, I hope some poor kid doesn’t take one of those to school.

      2. “Help, help I’m being repressed!”

  20. Privilege checked. It’s fine.

    http://thefederalist.com/2016/…..tionalism/

    1. Every time an SJW says “privilege” I get just a bit whiter.

      1. That’s what he is saying

    2. Privilege is the worst thing the left has given us since socialism/communism.

    3. I think lots of white racists are gonna be racists no matter what SJWs do.

      But they may have a better chance at recruiting, with the SJWs going on like they do.

    4. In the past year, all of the following headlines have appeared, in well-read publications:

      The White Guy Problem
      White Men Must be Stopped: The Very Future of Mankind Depends on It
      I Don’t Know What To Do With Good White People
      Ten Things White People Need To Stop Saying
      Dear White People: Here’s a List of Things We’d Wish You’d Stop Doing

      …What started as irony turned into an actual belief that white people, specifically white men, are more dangerous and immoral than any other people. Loosely backed up by historical inequities and disparities in mass shootings, this position has begun to take a serious foothold.

      yawn.

      The actual sites are “Salon, Jezebel, HuffPo, something i’ve never heard of called The Root (presumably because it feels like a ____ canal?) and the blog of someone named “Bitter Gertrude” (who crusty surely would)

      I’m of the view that ~90% of the population really doesn’t give a flying fuck about race, and as long as you don’t act like a dick, it shouldn’t make much of a difference in anything. All these people moaning about its significance just give everyone else a headache and ruin parties.

      1. The Root is a Slate brand. It’s where they put all their black writers. You know, segregation.

        1. They’re based out of Lynchburg.

  21. OT: took my first Pig Latin test today. I did very well. Hopefully I can keep that going. If I keep my grades up, I will get to go overseas for immersion.

    In other news, a vegan couple died recently while attempting to climb Mt Everest. Their goal was to prove vegans can do anything.

    http://time.com/4344556/mount-…..ing-vegan/

    1. What is Pig Latin?

      1. Pig Latin is the code name I use for the language the Army assigned me to study. I’m not suppose to say what it is.

        It’s not a big deal; it’s just a way for us to practice keeping secrets.

        1. Just wondered because there are a number of languages I think that are referred to as such. Like some of the languages in the Caribbean and Latin America where Spanish has been heavily adulterated with tongues endemic to the region.

          1. You’re thinking of a pidgin language or a creole. A creole is a pidgin that becomes a group’s first language.
            For example, Tok Pisin is a New Guinean creole based on English. The name literally means “talk pidgin”.

        2. Please say it’s not Mandarin or Cantonese, that would make me nervous.

          1. I suppose it is not a violation of OPSEC to say that it is not Chinese. I am extremely happy with the language I got.

            1. Is it Cockney?

              1. The Rhine in spine falls minely on the pline.

            2. Arabic, Kurdish, Turkish, Armenian, Persian, Farsi, or Yiddish, would be my guess.

              1. You forgot Pashto, Uzbek, Dari, Hebrew, and Urdu.

                Persian and Farsi are the same language.

            3. We need Italian interpreters?? Wouldn’t an ASL reader have been a better choice?

    2. Was littering Everest with their corpses one of their goals?

      1. Extreme biodegradabilty!

        1. I don’t believe the corpses degrade very well that high…

          1. They’re sequestering their carbon! Very ecological!

        2. Not really. Some climbers got violently sick earlier this from drinking the melted snow. It turns out there was a thawing dead body a little bit ways up from camp where their water was coming from.

      1. My advice for anyone thinking about climbing Everest is to go run with the bulls instead. It has similar bragging rights and is way less likely to kill you.

        1. That sounds more like a McAfee hobby.

          1. For the cost of climbing Everest, you could run with the bulls, go shark diving, skydive, backpack through Europe, and still have plenty leftover for hookers and blow in Somalia.

        2. My advice for anyone thinking about climbing Everest is to …

          …draw Moe Humid cartoons on the sidewalk in Mecca.

  22. Hillary will do a 180, if need be, just as soon as she locks up the nomination.

    But she hasn’t locked it up yet. So she has to keep running to the left.

    It would seem that Obama is smarter than Hillary this way, by the way. Obama horse traded with Hillary and offered her the Secretary of State gig in exchange for dropping out–so Obama could move to the center and say things like “Marriage is between a man and a woman”, like he so famously did.

    Hillary apparently isn’t smart enough to do the same with Bernie–either that or Bernie is too stupid to accept her offers.

    1. I think that what Bernie wants is the VP slot. I would be very surprised if he could get it at this time, but he might. This just shows even more what a weak candidate Hillary is. Bernie has now dragged her so far left, she doesn’t have a way back. She’s stuck with it and now she can’t win without Bernie supporters. He’s out maneuvered her and now she is stuck between a rock and hard place. She’ll tag Warren or some other far leftist because she has to, but not Bernie because she now hates him. She’s going to drown in her own shit, she’s a terrible candidate. It’s all been an illusion all along.

      1. I agree, she hates Bernie too much to give him VP. And she’s not flexible enough to put personal hatreds aside for political self-gain.

        1. In keeping with tradition, she will make Bernie the Secretary of State.

    2. Obama said he *personally* believed marriage was between a man and a woman.

      That’s a big-ass dog-whistle for the Left – “personally opposed” means “supports.”

    3. Bernie’s a mean little bastard. He’s not a Democrat, so what’s he care how damaging his hanging around too long is to the party or their nominee? I fully expect him to run third party, or at least run some sort of protest months-long bitchfest about how unfair the system is and damage the party as badly as possible. The Dems screwed the pooch letting a non-Democrat like Sanders run in their primary as bad as the GOP did letting a non-Republican like Trump in to crap all over the davenport.

      1. Commie rat bastard though he is, impeding Hillary’s nomination is the most worthwhile thing that slimy little looter prick will do in his entire career of public disservice. I hope he fights it to the bitter end in the democratic convention, and then runs third party on the “free shit for everybody and zampolits in every school” ticket.

        -jcr

    4. It’ll be hard for her to do a 180 on anything as Trump won’t let voters forget what her past positions have been.

  23. we must return to the goal of treating people as individuals, not as representatives of their race

    Sad thing is that until recently that would have been an uncontroversial statement for the left and mainstream right. These days the progs are likely to reject that sentiment.

  24. So should white people eat Mexican food? Or is it only racist when Trump says it?

  25. It’s Austria, not Australia, that’s her problem.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new…..claim.html

    Her Ronney King philosophy won’t fly.

    1. A Viennese sociologist, Roland Girtler, said: ‘Migration, in all of human history, comes with many worries.
      ‘Many see danger in these foreigners among them. But this fear is unfounded.’

      Snort.

      1. Yeah, Austrians don’t need to worry about using firearms to hold off an invading Muslim horde, haven’t they studied history?

        1. + 1 Croissant

        2. You know what other Austrian down-played fears of invasion?

          1. Arnold?

          2. von Trapp?

      2. I wonder what Sitting Bull or Constantine XI would have to say about that.

        1. ^Good point with Sitting Bull, especially as they love to moan about how we need to give everybody free shit because some white people were really super mean to him over a century+ ago!

          The lefties ability to hold two contradictory positions simultaneously without an ounce of self-awareness is truly astounding.

  26. ISIS appears to be following the Darth Vader motivational philosophy. They fed some unsuccessful commanders to dogs recently.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new…..feats.html

    1. Real professional use pigs.

      1. I was offended until I realized the author was calling the Republicans a bunch of silly concubines.

        Then I was offended on behalf of concubines.

    2. Bunch of pathetic wannabe Bond villains. The Kurds should force them to listen a continuing loop of the Eagles’ greatest hits.

      1. But in lowering themselves to ISIS’s level, would the Kurds lose their essential humanity?

      2. I would say a continuous loop of Don Henley’s and Glenn Fry’s greatest hits would be more effective.

  27. Great moments in Voice-to-Text!


    Don Boudreaux and Deirdre McClosleyon on CSPAN2:

    [Genghis Khan] SUCCEEDED BECAUSE HE INSISTED THE MONGOLS OBEYING PROPERTY RIGHTS. IF YOU STEAL A HORSE OR WI-FI WILL KILL YOU. AND THERE WERE A GREAT POWER.

    1. It’s like me posting from my phone.

  28. Linguistics meets scifi- there’s a great little story about some astro-archaeologists who manage to decipher the language of a dead Martian civilization when they find one a Martian periodic table.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnilingual

    It always annoyed me in movies when aliens speak perfect English. I think the most plausible treatment of aliens speaking English are the Coneheads- they have accents and have weird diction, which tends to happen when one is speaking a foreign language.

    1. We have already been visited by David Bowie. What would aliens do to win us over other than starting a rock ‘n roll band from outer space?

      1. They might give us the cure for cancer, but we’d probably destroy it in an ironic twist.

        1. I believe there was a movie that ended that way.

          There was some message that the Earthlings were trying to translate before we blew up the alien world, and just as the missiles are launched the beginning of message is something like “what follows are the cures to all mortal illness and instructions for limitless energy….” and kabloom. Very popular late 50s/early 60s sci-fi theme. Maybe it was a bradbury story; it sounds like him.

          Related

          1. That was a Twilight Zone episode: The Gift.

            The Outer Limits episode Trial by Fire was basically the same thing.

            Fun fact: The Outer limits had an episode that was basically the same thing as Tremors: The Invisible Enemy.

            Man, I’ve watched a lot of sci-fi…

            1. That was a Twilight Zone episode: The Gift.

              that sounds right.

    2. “I think the most plausible treatment of aliens speaking English are the Coneheads”

      I’d never thought of the Coneheads as “alien”, just some marginal US population from the hills somewhere.

      1. Ha, I knew I’d find something like this if I Googled.

  29. So the other day I was in the chow hall and an Air Force guy asks me “are you a traveling man?” I said I’ve been to a few countries. He said that’s not the answer he was looking for. So now I’m really confused. Then he flashes his Mason ring. He said some stuff about how a bunch of famous people were Freemasons and how they’re not a secret society, oh no, they’re a society with secrets, you see, and…I wasn’t paying attention because I was thinking about the Stonecutter song.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZI_aEalijE

    Anyway, he asks me if I believe in a higher power. I said I don’t think there’s an intelligent force running the universe. He then sadly informed me that I can’t be a Freemason.

    Oh, darn.

    1. Have fun when everyone in your unit except you gets weekend leave in Cancun while you get to go on the suicide mission to North Korea.

      1. Fine by me. I’m locked, cocked, and ready to rock. When I’m done with training, I will have basically the same job as Upham from Saving Private Ryan.

        Fun fact: My great uncle was in the Air Force. He was transferred from Japan to England because the US military wanted to discredit communist propaganda that they were using chemical weapons in Korea. My uncle was a chemical warfare technician and he and everyone else with the same training was transferred out of Asia at that time.

        1. Very interesting. All kidding aside, I’m sure you’ll excel at whatever they set you to do.

  30. All this to-do about Hillary’s going to be irrelevant once she’s out of consider’n & Biden’s the nominee. And he’d be the most formidable opponent for Trump too. And a pretty shitty prez if he wins.

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  33. Hillary Clinton has stated how she feels about gun ownership. If she wins the Electoral College even if she doesn’t win the popular vote she will consider it a mandate to force the end of gun ownership as we currently know it. And that we be the least of America’s problems.

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