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Politics

Philadelphia Could Make Musicians Register With the Police

New bill calls for performers to hand over personal information; cops could revoke venues' performance licenses.

Anthony Fisher | 1.28.2016 11:29 AM

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Philadelphia Councilman Mark Squilla has

introduced a bill requiring the proprietors of any performance venue (including concert halls, nightclubs, bars, and even restaurants) to submit the names and contact info of any musical act (including DJs) into a city-wide registry. 

As reported by BillyPenn.com:

The proposal, which was introduced last week and is headed to a committee hearing, would directly involve the Philadelphia Police Department in the approval process for so-called "Special Assembly Occupancy" licenses — giving law enforcement de facto veto power over whether shows can be held at venues that hold 50 or more people.

The bill broadly defines "performance act" as follows:

"Performance Act" shall mean any person or group of persons engaged in the act of singing, disc jockeying, rapping, dancing, playing musical instruments, and/or acting for an audience or group of patrons. The term shall also include the presentation of streaming or recorded audio or video, whether or not obtained for a fee, where such audio or video is offered primarily for listening or viewing. 

Squilla denies that any "specific music acts created this issue," but he told BillyPenn that police access to performers' personal information "enables them to review past performances to see if there were any public safety issues."

But Sean Agnew, a Philadelphia-based promoter, says venue owners almost never deal directly with artists and that such arrangements are made between agents, managers and people like himself. Agnew told BillyPenn he "books 600+ shows a year" and "can't imagine a band's representatives wanting to give their clients information over to the police without a really good reason." He adds, "I'm just trying to think of a situation where the police want the addresses and numbers of the 10+ members of Arcade Fire … Seems really intense."

Writing on his Facebook page, Councilman Squilla denies that a city-wide registry of performers will result from this legislation and insists "this provision is NOT intended to restrict artistic expression or any kind of entertainment but rather is aimed at addressing public safety and quality of life issues."

So what exactly is the bill's intent? Squilla explains:

The primary goal of this bill is to close a loophole in the current legislation that has allowed venues to operate without a special assembly license (SAOL). SAOLs are required for certain venues that have live musical and other entertainment. We learned that some operators were able to avoid obtaining an SAOL because there was no live music or a DJ but music was streaming or playing from an iPod or iPad.

Got that? It's about ensuring public safety through enhanced licensing and making sure bars that don't even use actual DJs to amplify music aren't exempt from ponying up the requisite cash. Just in case you missed the point, the bill raises the license application fee from $100 a year to $500 every two years. 

Philebrity.com describes how the proposed law would work in practice:

It would effect small shows and promoters who'd have to deal with all of this plus their rising fee costs, and it would also seemingly create a Brazil-esque mountain of bureaucracy and paperwork for the city to have to deal with, not to mention he Philadelphia Police Department using their resources to work on license approvals.

A representative of the Pennsylvania ACLU told BillyPenn, "This bill reflects a strange expansion of police duties and a dangerous muddling of the line between law enforcement and business licensing." 

Writing at Philly Voice, Aubrey Nagle quotes Avram Hornik, whose company manages several Philadelphia performance venues:

"[Police are] not trained for it. They have enough responsibilities to police the city and keep the city safe -- why do they have the responsibility for deciding if something is a risk or not?" Hornik said. "And if they don't affirmatively say it's safe, then if something goes wrong, they're responsible."

"The way this is drafted, it puts everything in the police's court for everything that happens in his or her district."

He added that the process would be susceptible to "prejudice, censorship or bias," and that the lack of communication with those in the entertainment industry leading up to the bill's introduction is frustrating.

It is hard to choose which way to define this story. On one hand, it seems like a classic example of a legislator acting out his puritanical fear of young people and their popular music. On the other hand, it's an all-too-familiar case of the government chiseling into people's ability to do business unencumbered by a plethora of occupational licenses and cumbersome regulatory hurdles that enrich no one but the agencies tasked with enforcing them.

Further, if enacted, the law would be yet another in what Reason contributor J.D. Tuccille calls "the spiderweb of laws, rules, and regulations that turn the majority of Americans into criminals." Politicians like Squilla might think his bill is an innocuous improvement to city code, but such laws are always ultimately enforced by the barrel of a gun. Philadelphia's lawmakers should seriously consider whether such potential confrontations are really worth the cost of making sure a bar's iPad is appropriately licensed. 

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  1. Heroic Mulatto   9 years ago

    How else are we going to protect our women from reefer and Jazz?

    1. Tonio   9 years ago

      And swarthy men.

      1. Heroic Mulatto   9 years ago

        Ix-nay, Tonio. Help a brother out.

  2. Old Man With Candy   9 years ago

    It's OK because the vast majority of performers are Progs and this is exactly the kind of thing they favor.

  3. Private Chipperbot   9 years ago

    So this covers high school marching bands, a backyard party of more than 50 people, etc.

  4. Hugh Akston   9 years ago

    A cursory glance at google maps indicates that Philly is close enough to NYC, Baltimore, DC, Trenton, Wilmington etc that why exactly would any touring band put up with this bullshit?

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   9 years ago

      I'm guessing this hurts local musicians who don't tour.

      1. commodious spittoon   9 years ago

        Me and this man had a band once and we were called The Shapes
        You probably never heard of us and that really is okay
        We drank and we threw up sometimes we practiced and played
        Our drummer couldn't figure out whether he was straight or he was gay
        We went on tour within walking distance of our house
        Maybe that is why no one knew what our sound was all about

  5. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

    No more chants of "eff the police" influencing our young concert-goers into non-compliance.

  6. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   9 years ago

    Scores of Philadelphia's public bathrooms would have to become gender-neutral and drop the labels "Men" and "Women" under legislation that is to be introduced Thursday in City Council.

    The bill - which applies only to single-occupant bathrooms, not those with multiple stalls - would place Philadelphia among the first major U.S. cities to take a step long sought by transgender advocates.

    [...]

    The new legislation, which is to be introduced Thursday by Councilman Mark Squilla as Council returns from its three-month summer recess, would affect any single-occupancy restroom accessible to the public and require gender-neutral signage.

    You see, there's nothing Mark Squilla can't do... so this is just another in a long line of things he can do.

  7. Dread Pirate Roberts   9 years ago

    Allowing musicians to perform without registering with the local authorities presents insufficient opportunities for graft.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   9 years ago

      Name one thing that shouldn't be registered with the authorities. One.

      1. Scarecrow & WoodChipper Repair   9 years ago

        The authorities.

        1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   9 years ago

          Name two things that shouldn't be registered with the authorities.

          1. Scarecrow & WoodChipper Repair   9 years ago

            Start at the top -- President, Vice-President, ....

          2. dschwar   9 years ago

            Outrage and displeasure

      2. Curtisls701   9 years ago

        Authorities, themselves. 😉

  8. Rt. Hon. Judge Woodrow Chipper   9 years ago

    Sounds like a scheme to gentrify Camden.

  9. SugarFree   9 years ago

    What did he say that's wrong? Rap and hip-hop acts are more likely to have violent fans. Do you think this is because of police racism or actual differences in concert riots?

    I don't think it's racist to acknowledge that there are higher rates of criminal behavior among rap and hip-hop acts than other musical groups. I don't think it's because they're rap and hip-hop acts, I think it's because there are shitloads of cultural problems in inner city music. Rap and hip-hop acts being more likely to have violence at their concerts don't prove racism because it's possible they actually do it more often.

    1. Private Chipperbot   9 years ago

      The Altamont Hell's Angels agree.

    2. R C Dean   9 years ago

      Having an image as a violent criminal seems to be a branding strategy for some rap and hip-hp groups. I don't know of any other genre where that's true.

      Could be a connection, is all.

      1. Hugh Akston   9 years ago

        I love that rap song about the guy who shot a man in Reno just to watch him die.

      2. Warty   9 years ago

        RAP? I CALL IT CRAP

        1. sarcasmic   9 years ago

          The 'C' is silent.

      3. Heroic Mulatto   9 years ago

        Having an image as a violent criminal seems to be a branding strategy for some rap and hip-hp groups. I don't know of any other genre where that's true.

        That's because Punk is truly dead.

        1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   9 years ago

          Punk was more about aggression that violence. They weren't really branding themselves as gangsters.

      4. JoblessBoss   9 years ago

        Outlaw country. A lot of early Californian metal. Probably a lot of metal in general (I've never quite been able to pin down exactly what weird depravity those Scandinavian folks are on about). A lot of bluesy 70s rock (bad company till the day I die, if the sheriff catches up with me I'll spend my life in jail, etc, though surely it's more implicit and corny than a lot of hip hop). Anything from Jamaica. Hell, I once read the back cover of a Billy Joel biography (checking it out for a friend, I swear) only to find the authors trying their hardest to convince me the Piano Man had been in a street gang as a teen

    3. sarcasmic   9 years ago

      Rap and hip-hop acts being more likely to have violence at their concerts don't prove racism because it's possible they actually do it more often.

      The facts are racist.

      1. Heroic Mulatto   9 years ago

        With the notable exception of Onyx, I don't ever remember a mosh pit forming during a rap concert.

        1. egould310   9 years ago

          Cypress Hill.

          1. Heroic Mulatto   9 years ago

            I have to say, I never made it to a CH concert back in the day.

        2. It's all sausage to me   9 years ago

          A mosh pit formed at a Clutch concert I was at. How the hell do you mosh to stoner rock?

  10. Monty Crisco   9 years ago

    I love how when this is reported - EVEN AT THIS SITE - no mention of the Democrats' war on the first amendment. Fuck it- HE COULD BE A REPUBLICAN FOR ALL WE KNOW!!!

  11. Rt. Hon. Judge Woodrow Chipper   9 years ago

    I'm sure this was an idea cooked up by the police to manufacture probable cause.

  12. Rt. Hon. Judge Woodrow Chipper   9 years ago

    giving law enforcement de facto veto power over whether shows can be held at venues that hold 50 or more people.

    At least the 76ers won't be affected.

  13. Enjoy Every Sandwich   9 years ago

    Squilla denies that any "specific music acts created this issue," but he told BillyPenn that police access to performers' personal information "enables them to review past performances to see if there were any public safety issues."

    "Public safety". Ha. Ah, yes, the favorite old argument: if our benevolent masters don't minutely monitor our every move, we'll all fucking die!

  14. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   9 years ago

    Obligatory.

  15. It's all sausage to me   9 years ago

    But I thought registration was a Good Thing, right? Nobody wants to take your music!

  16. CE   9 years ago

    No one NEEDS more than 3 guitars.

  17. uunderstand   9 years ago

    It would effect small shows . . .

    So the police will be promoters now?

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