Can Americans Still Take A Joke? Amy Poehler's 'Difficult People' Proves Answer is 'No'

Comedian Amy Poehler has recently taken heat from Twitter for a joke on her new Hulu show, Difficult People.

The backlash began when the show's abrasive character, Julie, tweets a crude joke about how she "can't wait" until Beyoncé and Jay Z's young daughter, Blue Ivy, grows up so R. Kelly can urinate on her. In the series, Julie receives backlash from her Twitter followers who think the joke was tasteless.

In real life, however, it is Poehler who is receiving the backlash. Poehler serves as executive producer on the show and many on Twitter believe the joke should never have been written in the first place. 

So, can Americans still take a joke? Filmmaker Ted Balaker recently sat down with Reason TV's Nick Gillespie to talk about the current state of comedy, how technology has fueled the outrage machine, and how comedians are fighting back against PC zealots.

Balaker is a frequent contributor to Reason TV. Originally aired on August 20, 2015. 

Comments

[DEG]

I just finished Uinta's Baba.

I'm weird. If you don't like a comedian's act, instead of going onto social media to bitch about it, don't go back.

[DesigNate]

How dare you not register your outrage on social media!

[Episiarch]

Dude, not going back isn't NEARLY narcissistic enough. You don't get people to pay attention to you by not complaining stupidly on social media.

[DEG]

I know I'm weird.

[JW]

Can we now officially strip the 70's of the obnoxious title of the "Me Generation" and award it to the 10's?

[Episiarch]

I blame disco.

[Almanian - Trump's Woodchipper]

I blame Bush.

[Pathogen]

Can't it be both?

[Scalro Humillimus]

Disco Bush? That is scary.

[Irish ?s ESB]

So Amy Poehler is getting attacked on Twitter for a joke on a show she didn't write when the joke wasn't even supposed to be at this girl's expense, it was supposed to be about how unfunny a fictional character is.

This is like outrage within outrage within outrage. it's outrage about outrage. It's meta-outrage. It's Outrageception.

[Episiarch]

It's also a terrific example of how giving the slightest credence or attention to outrage addicts is a terrible mistake. Because they're going to find a way to get outraged, because...that's their hobby, their drug. If someone is giving you shit for something you didn't even do and because they're too stupid to understand how it was intended, what possible dialogue can you have with them? You can't. So don't even bother, just tell them to fuck off and get a sense of humor surgically implanted by Dr. Nick Riviera.

[Irish ?s ESB]

Best part is that she didn't write it, she's just an executive producer. That would be like getting angry with Woody Harrelson because this season of True Detective sucked and he had a producer's credit..

[Episiarch]

I am angry with Woody that this season of TD sucks!

#bringbackcheers #rewatchzombieland #ihaventseenwhitemencantjumpinages

[The Hyperbole]

#munsonedit

[Mrs. Lemuel Struthers]

You forgot the best Woody movie of all #naturalbornkillers.

[Episiarch]

#nothungergames?

(THAT'S A JOKE PEOPLE)

[Mrs. Lemuel Struthers]

Ok. So, #naturalbornkillers2

better?

[Episiarch]

#dochollywood

[Lord at War]

I won't sell insurance to anyone who'll stick their hands in your mouth

[Reverend Draco]

#zombieland

[Irish ?s ESB]

Also, a lot of the outrage against Poehler appears to be coming from mentally ill black people who are obsessed with race to the point of psychosis.

Examples:

"Gotta protect our kids. That Amy Poehler joke is totally unacceptable. All Blue Ivy did was be born. #BlueIvy"

"White feminists tweeting about #thingsfeministmenhavesaid. When you're done, can you address Amy Poehler and the tasteless R. Kelly joke?"

"And somehow #AmyPoehler remains a feminist hero to many WW. #DifficultPeople gotta go. Calling @hulu to cancel today!!!!!"

How crazy do you have to be to think that the primary problem with white feminists is that they don't complain enough?

[Carl, Fighter of the Nightman]

#DifficultPeople

That is... unsettling.

[Carl, Fighter of the Nightman]

Oh, I read too quickly. The name of the show is Difficult People. That is not creepy.

[Irish ?s ESB]

Oh my God, that #thingsfeministmenhavesaidtome hashtag is even funnier than the people upset with Amy Poehler:

Example:

"just because women think something is sexist, doesn't mean it automatically is, you know. #thingsfeministmenhavesaid"

""Is this anti-oppression workshop mandatory?" #ThingsFeministMenHaveSaidToMe"

""There are women with real problems in other parts of the world so why are you whining about this?" #ThingsFeministMenHaveSaidToMe"

See guys, if you don't mindlessly believe something is sexist when a dumbass feminist with an agenda tells you it is, if you don't go to every anti-oppression workshop that exists on the planet, and if you think white, 1st world feminists bitching about manspreading should shut the fuck up when women are having their clits chopped off in Somalia, it's just because you're a neckbearded woman-hating dudebro.

[*GILMORE*]

I think the media world has yet to fully put into perspective that the people who frequently express outrage on twitter? ...

....Express Lots on twitter, constantly, on topics no one could possibly find reasons to care about... expressing and expressing and expressing and expressing to their smartphone... and having deeply reflective moments about their inner-reflectiveness...and randomly going "OMG I HATE HATERS FUCK THEM WITH FIRE" whenever an opportune target emerges, then resuming tweeting about how Drake-lyrics really help them emotionally cope with Breakfast, which can be problematic

I think twitter will work better when every account has a "credibility score" that ranks exactly how fucking retarded each particular person is...and so can be readily dismissed when they opine on anything the wider world is supposed to care about.

[Rhywun]

Or, you could just ignore Twitter.

[iVOTED4Kodos]

I actually think there needs to be a baseline outrage measurement that is used to judge how much "net outrage" exists for any event.

For example, if the outrage for say a minor comedian saying something relatively controversial in a youtube video of his/her act gets 1,000 people tweeting outrage at a level of 5 (on a 1-10 scale with 1 being "shame on you" and 10 being "x lives here, lets meet up and castrate him in 5 min") you have a 5,000 outrage ranking. Make that the baseline and just subtract that from each outrage event to properly gauge the faux outrage. This event would probably have a net outrage rating of 100 (+/- 250). So, pretty mild. You could even drop twitter accounts that are outraged about everything from the calculations to properly measure.

[JW]

#ThingsFeministMenHaveSaidToMe

I tried to read it, but the utter banality of it made me fall asleep after about 30 seconds.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

"mentally ill black people who are obsessed with race to the point of psychosis."

I like how you can go away from H&R for long periods of time but feel confident than when you return Irish will be denouncing the real race problem which, of course, always involves black people.

[Episiarch]

Oh Tulpy-Poo, you didn't go anywhere. But keep weakly trying to convince everyone, it's hilarious.

[Mrs. Lemuel Struthers]

OMG!! I just realized, Irish is a complete and total racist!!

Thanks for pointing that out, Bo.

Now, go away.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

Irish is what you call a WMRA, a White Male Rights Activist. Somewhere, somehow, black people are saying unfair things about white people, and he is on that case like Columbo.

[Mrs. Lemuel Struthers]

So, I see. We all suck. Why are you here again? Oh, I know, you hate yourself and need punishment. Consider paying someone for some S&M. You're a bit sad, Bo. Think on it.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

"Why are you here again?"

You don't own Reason. It's a libertarian discussion board, not a conservative or meet-n-greet website as the two major camps here treat it. I come here because I'm the target audience, not some sad sack who hangs out here with other conservatives or who treats it as a community chat board.

[Mrs. Lemuel Struthers]

Right.

You're the One True Libertarian and you're not giving in just because everyone thinks your a fucking douche bag. YOU WON'T BE BULLIED. YOU'LL SHOW THEM. YOU'LL SHOW THEM ALL.

You are sad.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

It's plain to anyone with a brain how skewed this commentariat is to the Right.

The last time I had the time to come here was the 'pro-life Libertarian' thread. Interestingly, it noted that while there is no philosophical reason that libertarians not be pro-life, that polls of self-identified libertarians show that the ratio of pro-life to pro-choice is 1:2. But go to any thread on abortion here and you will see it something more like 1:1 or tilting even more towards pro-life.

Take any issue where the usual libertarian position and the conservative position now diverge sharply; gay marriage, abortion, immigration, and you will see here a 1:1 split. This site has a ton of conservative lurkers and regulars.

And the site also has a ton of people who think of this place as their little online social community (if you want to talk about sad...), a place to meet people, set up meet ups, swap recipes and advice for everyday life. Those people of course don't like someone who thinks the site should be used for what it's intended (political and cultural debate).

[Mrs. Lemuel Struthers]

Yeah. So, H&R doesn't perfectly represent your ideal of "libertarianism"? And posters like to kill time at work or during down time (at a salon getting a pedicure at the moment) by chatting. We are a bunch of worthless fuckers. Good thing we have you, Bo, to keep us on track.

Now, I'm not going to respond to you again, not because I think you're a troll or Tulpa, but because you're pedantic and witless and don't understand that you're pedantic and witless.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

I like how you don't respond to any specific argument I make, and then sign off. Perhaps you've got some explanation for the anomalous ratios I mentioned? Nope, you know they're correct and exactly as described. In fact, I imagine you count on it. So, more handwaving.

[Lord at War]

It's plain to anyone with a brain how skewed this commentariat is to the Right.

Because leftists are pussies (joe from lowell) and retards (tony, shriek and you)?

[Episiarch]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The eternal Tulpa whine. You always snivel the same way about the same things, Tulpy-Poo, no matter how hard you try.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

You know what's funny? I've been on threads where it's obvious Tulpa is participating and Episarch seems clueless. That's compounded when he so strongly argues I'm Tulpa on other threads. He's a lot like his 'friends' Warty and Playa Manhattan, they so need there to be a Goldstein-esque foil 'ruining' their little social club, that he presses it with the relentless of a true sociopath, all evidence or reason to the contrary. It's hilarious.

[hardbodyFLA]

You've been posting here, what, maybe 18 months? 2 years? (Unfortunately for us). I have been lurking for a very long time, and this website, and the people who read it KNOW it has a a real community ...flavor/odor, which you deride as "meet and greet". It kind of sucks for me, since I mainly just read and don't have time to comment, so no one knows who the fuck I am, while I know all the SugarFree lore and such. but don't act like these guys "ruined" the site for oh-so-earnest commenters like you incessantly claim yourself to be, fool. This has what H&R has been since before PM links was ever invented.

[Zaytsev]

I come here because I'm the target audience...

Reason's target audience is smug douche bag progressive trolls?

That actually makes sense.

[Irish ?s ESB]

Here I am criticizing conservatives for their racism against Mexicans.

"He's a supporter of government run healthcare and has given massive sums of money to Democratic candidates and he was a big supporter of Hillary Clinton.

He's not a real conservative because he literally isn't a real conservative. Conservatives are jettisoning all their supposed values to support someone who opposes most of their beliefs because he's willing to create bizarre and untenable plans regarding immigration.

If anything should make you throw up, it would be the fact that 20% of the conservative base has shown itself to be completely unprincipled and would throw their support behind Stalin if he were willing to say bad things about Mexicans."

That was literally yesterday. There was also a convo re: white racists I had with Calidissident, but I don't remember what thread it was on. Regardless, I have never had any compunctions about criticizing racist whites, racist blacks, racist Hispanics, whatever, and everyone other than yourself knows this. That's why people like Calidissident (who calls out real racism rather than petulantly calling people they don't like racists) has never thought I'm a racist.

I'm clearly not a racist. Everyone knows it based on my post history. You're a dipshit troll. I'm going to the gym so have fun trolling people who aren't me.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

"I'm going to the gym"

Cue Warty, huh?

[Irish ?s ESB]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Okay, one more before I go because I knew I said something like this two days ago in a thread you actually commented in.

Here I am talking about racist white conservatives:

"The point is that you can't make sweeping declarations about a group based on anecdotes and the #cuckservative crowd appears to think a few examples of individual homicides are proof that the Messicans are slaughtering and raping our white women."

You literally commented in that thread, dipshit. You're right though - I'm a white male rights activist who doesn't discuss white racism. Good call, retard. Have fun being unemployed with six figure debt if your dumbass college makes the poor decision to let you complete that law degree you're after.

[Mrs. Lemuel Struthers]

Irish, there's no need to provide evidence for this mendacious shit. It's like talking reason to a cognitively impaired chimp. He must have an incredibly empty life.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

WMRA don't like white supremacists. Their thing is they're just obsessed with people talking bad about white males all out of proportion to their importance. But of course they hate open white supremacists, the same way that many long time Republicans don't care for Trump. It's about an out of whack focus on the precious dignity of white males and those who would unfairly question it, not KKK style racism.

[Mrs. Lemuel Struthers]

Just out of curiosity, Bo, when was the last time you had sex with another human being?

[Bo Cara Esq.]

That's a funny question.

I had an exchange here with 'Warty' where he didn't like what I had to say (re: I didn't echo what he had to say). In the exchange I mentioned I was a college student. He said, I kid you not, 'you're a college student? so you're a virgin? hahaha?'

That tells you all you need to know, that the kind of people most riled up against me (not to mention Eddie!), would associate 'college' with 'virgin.' What kind of repressed, sexual loser thinks of college as a time when people didn't have sex?

Of course, there's a significant segment of commenters here, who for some incredible reason have decided that this is a website for them to make a little on-line community (likely in place of a virtual one they lack), and for whom 'Warty', a guy who literally makes comments like that and expressing his personal bests in weightlifting (online!), all which would get him laughed off most websites, is a 'regular' and therefore, must be protected.

So let me reiterate: when people who place such an extraordinary focus on their 'online community' toss around comments about sexual prowess, they're probably trying to invoke their own sexual inadequacy.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

So...never, then?

[Zaytsev]

Dude, embrace your virginity.

Lotsa bitches consider it a challenge when you openly declare that you're one and waiting for marriage.

OTOH, dancing around the reality screams loser.

[Warty]

Lady B, the Bo character hates being called a virgin.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

You'll notice he didn't answer her question. Just some blathering about how everyone in college has sex, so he couldn't possibly be a virgin.

Unless, of course, he's a social retard. Which, based upon his interactions here, has a probability of well over 95%. The only way Bo could get laid is if he paid for it. And I'd be willing to bet a large portion of prostitutes would turn him down.

[Warty]

His bizarre interpretation of my insult, and the fact that he's still seething about it, what, 20 months later, tells you everything you need to know.

[Zaytsev]

Bo stikes me as the kind of guy that couldn't get laid in a whorehouse, with a pocket full of benjamins.

[SIV]

"Mexicans" aren't a race. Most of them identify (correctly) as white.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

SIV, now here comes someone who really will make Irish look positively enlightened.

[Corning]

"(correctly) as white."

wait...

If I point out that they on average are actually browner skinned then pretty much all pure bread European stock does that make me a racist?

Also why would I be referred to as a Gringo by a Mexican if they identify as "white"? Aren't they making a racial distinction between me and them?

I do think Mexicans have a racial identity and it is not white. I also think they have more then one racial identity within Mexico. I imagine those of heavy Spanish stock do identity as white. I don't think they make up the majority.

I will say this Mexican culture is certainly European. Or at least as European culturally as the US and Canada is.

Note: I just read Gavacho is more commonly used then Gringo. They mean the same thing I guess.

[SIV]

On the US census most people of Mexican heritage identify as white. Yet very few are from the paler, "more European" class of Mexicans.

[Careless]

Amerindians are white now?

[Episiarch]

Oh Tulpy-Poo, you didn't go anywhere. But keep weakly trying to convince everyone, it's hilarious.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

You're frantically obsessed double posting is a bit more hilarious.

[Old Man With Candy]

Here's my question: is it the puppetmaster or the puppet that has never had sex (excluding its own hand and perhaps family pets)? Or both?

[Irish ?s ESB]

I like that I can spend two weeks criticizing Donald Trump for racist comments about Mexicans and accurately call out crazy people who happen to be black, and Bo will ignore anything I've said about that and claim I only criticize black people for being racist.

But you're a lying troll who ignores what I say about racist whites (who I frequently criticize) so I shouldn't be surprised. You're also a mindless and incompetent SJW who seriously believes that black people can't be racist and that there's nothing unhealthy or worrisome about black people with irrational obsessions about race.

I criticize people of all races who are racist, you ignore racism among blacks (even though black racism actually harms black people more than it harms white people) because you don't care about the damage done to African Americans by their own bad ideas and would rather grandstand than discuss actual problems afflicting black America - problems which include a low-income sub-culture partially constructed from the racism of some modern African Americans themselves.

FYI, we had a long discussion in the last week about white supremacists where I attacked white racists. Funny how you always seem to miss those discussions (which happen with regularity) and pretend they don't occur so that you can claim I'm a racist.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

You bravely drew the line at open white supremacists while fighting to protect blacks from the real racists, other blacks. I really do have to take back that criticism now!

[Episiarch]

Tulpa doesn't miss any discussions, dude.

[JW]

That's because Bo isn't real. Stop treating it as such and you won't be as surprised.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

Not real? It was all a dream!!!

[Atanarjuat]

Not to mention, Bo is an outright racist who says stupid things such as it's OK to call black men "Uncle Tom"s.

He said some other fucktarded noxiously racist thing but the alcohol has driven the derp from my memory banks.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

What I've said is that anyone who has actually talked to an actual black person about the 'Uncle tom' charge would get that they are referring to what is seen as the unduly deferential to white people attitude of the character of Uncle Tom in the Beecher-Stowe novel, and that that is of course not necessarily racist. It's no more racist than calling someone a quisling is racist against Norwegians.

Atanjaruat is, of course, especially invested in trying to find me racist given his usual comments. Nice try.

[The Tone Police]

For the rest of the crowd and any visitors coming here, Uncle Tom is in fact racist because it denies someone their racial identity: if you're too "deferential" to white people, you're not really black.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

No black person who calls another black person an 'Uncle Tom' thinks that person isn't black; they think the person is harming the interests of blacks by being too deferential to whites. Try actually talking to a 'black person' sometime about this.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

It's interesting, for all to note, that Tone Police ignored my example of 'quisling'

[The Tone Police]

Because comparing white people to Nazis is rational, you fucking retard.

[Notorious UGCC]

"the unduly deferential to white people attitude of the character of Uncle Tom in the Beecher-Stowe novel"

Shorter Bo: Either I didn't read *Uncle Tom's Cabin,* or I was too stupid to understand it.

Because [SPOILER ALERT] submitting to death rather than revealing the location of a fugitive slave equals being "unduly deferential to white people."

You're thinking of the stage version of Uncle Tom, you drooling moron.

[WoodchipperPatriarch]

Bo, if you weren't so massively racist you would realize that the important part of that phrase was "who are obsessed with race to the point of psychosis." Stop holding people to lower standards just because of the color of their skin.

[mswen]

I wonder how many Twitter users realized that that bit was actually a shot at people exactly like them?

Probably none. That would require thinking about someone else for nearly 30 seconds.

[Pulseguy]

When people lose their jobs because they used the word 'niggardly', then we have reached the point where anyone makes a tasteless joke should be ready for whatever stuff comes their way.

[*GILMORE*]

OMG SOMEONE SOMEWHERE IS WHINING AND HAS A TWITTER QUICK USA TODAY THIS IS NEWS

also, amanda? The joke only works when you remember to mention that its *R Kelly* and not just any'ol Kelly who can't wait to pee on you.

*footnote = good friend of mine is a dancing extra in both that skit as well as the classic Rick James one

[__Warren__]

There is a thing a don't like. Ban it. Arrest all those who don't agree. Give me power. Do what I say.

[LarryA]

It's worse than that. I've seen people outraged because someone said something that the ragee thinks might offend someone in an "oppressed" group that the ragee doesn't belong to.

[John Galt]

So, in other words, you're promoting "liberal" theology 101.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

I look forward to some hyper-backpatting in this thread about how everyone else is so TEH STUPID PC, because certainly no one here gets outraged over things most people don't and goes on line to vent that outrage in hyperbolic ways. That's just unheard of on Reason Hit & Run!

[Episiarch]

Oh Tulpy-Poo, if your butt hurts this much, maybe you should go see a proctologist.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

I like how invested you are in this 'you're Tulpa' crusade. It's good that you seem to have some idea how petty your own online personal outrage campaign is from the start.

[Episiarch]

More! More! Bravo! This is the non-performance of a lifetime, Tulpy-Poo!

[Bo Cara Esq.]

To wit

[The Tone Police]

Have you ever flatly denied posting here under other names? I have to say that this comment:

http://reason.com/blog/2015/08.....nt_5534113

Where you talk about cliques and in-jokes and friends? That's 100 percent Tulpa. You're a shitty person and a liar. I hope you die sad, alone, and soon.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

I understand you're a sociopath, but as to your question, I'm not Tulpa. If you think only a single person could help notice strange social 'cliques' in the regulars here, more sad for you.

[The Tone Police]

That's not the question I asked you. Have you ever posted under other names? Because last time we had this conversation, you basically said you're not Tulpa because Tulpa's a different character. We all know you play hyperpedantic games with whether "you" are "really" anybody because we're all just characters on the internet.

It's not just the language of observations; you write in the same tone and style. Why are you here trolling again? What kind of sad life do you have to create characters and puppet them here? You're absolutely sad and irrelevant.

[Hyperion]

I'd say more, but I already am famous for causing 'the incident' and I don't even know what the incident is. Maybe the FBI will arrive to get my server tonight, or maybe someone from SanFran will come and save me.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

"Have you ever posted under other names? "

No.

Now look at all the outage you need to pour out before even getting that answer!

I'm familiar with Tulpa. He's clearly an establishment Republican who concern trolls the people here. How anyone can think I'm an establishment Republican is, frankly, hilarious.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

Rides here for the game, but it really is desperate to claim that I'm 'Tulpa'

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Bo, I want you to know that I don't think you are a sock.

I think you are truly the pedantic, argumentative, lacking in any social skills, needy, virgin, man-child that you portray in your posts.

Sometimes things are EXACTLY as they appear.

[Careless]

Where you talk about cliques and in-jokes and friends? That's 100 percent Tulpa.

yeah, because only Tulpa would talk about those things in reference to H&R

[l0b0t]

Only Tulpa/Bo would talk about them as pejoratives.

[WoodchipperPatriarch]

Bo, it makes Episiarch feel better to convince himself you're Tulpa, and that's OK. Because the alternative is having to deal with the reality that there is more than one of you who is so fallaciously stupid and proudly obnoxious. That thought is painful to the soul. So leave him alone.

[Dr. Jonathan Crane]

The Ass Man perhaps?

[Carl, Fighter of the Nightman]

So, I noticed that "I grew out my bush lady" in the previous thread referred to herself as a "metaphysician", so I suspected that she received her PhD from the University of Metaphysics.

I was so wrong.

She actually received it from the Institute of Metaphysical and Humanistic Science.

Actually, there are no federally recognized accrediting agencies for metaphysical degrees.

Oh, no shit?

Therefore, metaphysics-related schools (including alternative health schools) must use third-party accrediting agencies for accreditation. These non-federal agencies are free to establish their own accrediting criteria and have varying standards of quality. Rather than accept a potentially lower educational standard, IMHS has chosen to accredit its courses through its sister organization, the International Metaphysical Practitioners Association (IMPA).

Hmm, sounds above board...

[Carl, Fighter of the Nightman]

Yes, IMHS degrees are "real" degrees; they are simply different than traditional degrees. This does not make them less valid or less legal; it makes them different.

"The degree programs of this college are designed solely for religious vocations" as outlined in Chapter 246.084 of the Florida Statutes. IMHS degrees are religious (non-secular) in nature and are granted by the authority of the International Church of Metaphysical Humanism, Inc. (ICMH), a religious organization authorized by the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution to conduct religiously-based training. Secular and non-secular degrees are different and designed for different purposes. A PhD in chemistry cannot be compared with a PhD in metaphysics. They exist for two different purposes. The former is a secular PhD, the latter is a non-secular PhD. One is designed for scientific research in a certain field (such as chemistry), the other is designed more for educational and remedial purposes in helping people spiritually. One is not necessarily better or worse than the other. They are just different.

Which is better, an apple or an orange? A car or a pickup truck? A train or a plane? The truth is, they are neither better nor worse; they are just different and used for different purposes.

Sage...

[Crusty Juggler]

Carl, I will not stand for your preposterous derision of the one they call Bush Lady.

[Mrs. Lemuel Struthers]

I may have to change my name to Bush Lady; it's just too too.

[Carl, Fighter of the Nightman]

Bush Lady, PhD.

[Crusty Juggler]

Not all PhD's are the same! Gosh. Socrates was a metaphysicist, and he turned out alright.

[Scooby]

Last words of Socrates: "I drank what?"

[straffinrun]

Gag thyself.

[The Hyperbole]

Which is better, an apple or an orange? A car or a pickup truck? A train or a plane?

Apple,pickup,plane next question.

[WoodchipperPatriarch]

It's telling that she is concerned with the "legality" of her degree. Because the government is the arbiter of all that is good and right.

[LarryA]

"Colleges can learn something from comedians?" Please.

Most of academia is infected with a severe case of Not Invented Here. "This is a Prestigious Institution of Higher Education. We already know everything. Don't teach us what we don't want to learn!"

[John Galt]

Until you disgusting living-breathing trigger warnings understand progressive causes are serious business all "attempts' to be humorous have been suspended!!

[Jerryskids]

Can Americans still take a joke? Yes. Can these people having a fit over a joke Amy Poehler didn't write take a joke? Yes. They aren't having a fit over the joke because they think it's offensive or racist or misogynistic or whatever, they're just having a fit because having a fit is what they do. It's no more than performance art. Just point and laugh and move on the the next exhibit.

[Episteme]

In the same fashion that we consider the comedian's jokes to be his or her Act, we need to consider the progressive's reaction to be zir act. Then we can judge between the two, as if we might at a Battle of the Bands, and award trophies to the best among all of them (but not merely for participation ? we need to get beyond that)...

[Migrant Log Chipper]

Great distillation, Jk.

[blank]

For all those who have been complaining about all the coverage Reason has been giving to Donald Trump you should shutup:

Prosecutors said the brothers awakened the homeless man as he slept near a subway station in Dorchester, punching him, hitting him with a metal pole, and urinating on his face. Witnesses alerted State Police, who arrested the brothers.

Later, police alleged, Scott Leader, 38, said that it was OK to attack the man because he was Hispanic and homeless, saying, "Donald Trump was right; all these illegals need to be deported."

These thugs attacked a hard working immigrant who just trying to make a better life for his family:

He still works in Boston, but cannot afford housing. Before the attack the man slept on the street and worked odd jobs, such as collecting discarded aluminum cans for the deposit money, which he sent to his elderly mother.

[Dr. Jonathan Crane]

The worst part was Trump's response to their attack.

[SIV]

Not responding because he didn't know anything about it?

Next you'll tell us he dissed a war hero Senato and insinuated a girl-reporter was on the rag.

[John Galt]

Sgt. Senato? I remember him. He was Punic war hero.

[kbolino]

Sgt. Senato

Awfully low rank for such an old man.

[kbolino]

The worst part of a violent beating was the way somebody else talked about it? Great priorities you have there, champ.

[Mrs. Lemuel Struthers]

Possibly, he's a doctor of metaphysics?

[kbolino]

doctor of metaphysics

This reminds me of people who teach ethics. They are, to a fault, the least ethical people I have ever known.

[JW]

Only about 3 days late with this news flash.

[kbolino]

These thugs

are not Trump, have no relation to Trump or his campaign, and are just a couple of thugs who used Trump as an excuse to be thugs.

[SIV]

Trump didn't own the attack, apologize for his wrong-headed immigration policy, denounce all his supporters as racists, drop out of the race and endorse Jeb! Trump literally beat and urinated on the guy himself.

[kbolino]

Yeah, I don't like Trump, but he has as much responsibility for this beating as I do for the political climate of Somalia.

[SIV]

The more "opinion journalists" pull chikenshit like this, the more I like Trump.

Trump is not responsible for the actions of the Leader brothers, but his response?and his general deportment during this bizarre press conference?leaves much to be desired.

Nick shits his pants because Trump didn't take responsibility for something he wasn't responsible for (or even aware of).

[kbolino]

I can't vote for a man who I have no doubt is utterly fraudulent; although I did not vote for Obama, I gave him far too much of a pass in judging his intent. Perhaps I'm overcorrecting. I can't help but admire Trump's ability to troll the media, but if he meant what he said and could execute decisively on it, it would be anti-libertarian as fuck. I am not, however, shitting my pants over it. I doubt he'll win, and if he does, he will govern in a manner quite different from his campaigning; like every politician before him, he knows that getting elected and running the country are two entirely unrelated tasks.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

"I can't help but admire Trump's ability "

This guy is worried about the quality of left-libertarianism here!

[The Tone Police]

Quoted out of context by a dishonest motherfucker. So devastating.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

Unlike you, I've heard from this guy before.

[kbolino]

So there is a list, and I am on it. Does the good Senator from Wisconsin have anything else to contribute to the record?

[Hyperion]

If you aren't on a list, you're not a libertarian, so get the fuck out of here.

[Irish ?s ESB]

And I'm back in!

Full quote from Kbolino:

"I can't vote for a man who I have no doubt is utterly fraudulent; although I did not vote for Obama, I gave him far too much of a pass in judging his intent. Perhaps I'm overcorrecting. I can't help but admire Trump's ability to troll the media, but if he meant what he said and could execute decisively on it, it would be anti-libertarian as fuck."

By my count, you have 67 words which are anti-Trump, but 7 words which sound almost pro-Trump if you completely pluck them out of context.

Gee - sort of like how you have dozens upon dozens of posts from me criticizing white racists, but Bo picks out the posts by me where I criticize black racists and pretends I only talk about black racism. You have a difficult time being honest, don't you Bo?

And I don't give a shit about Kbolino's other posts. If he's said shit I disagree with in his other posts, I'll criticize him there. There's absolutely nothing objectionable about this post though, and your dishonesty is almost impressive.

[kbolino]

And I don't give a shit about Kbolino's other posts.

There's some doozies in there, let me tell you.

[Jayburd]

#nickshits

[Bo Cara Esq.]

"omplaining about all the coverage Reason has been giving to Donald Trump"

They keep frantically waving their hands because they know that Trump finally represents something even they don't want to defend here, but unfortunately so many GOP voters aren't following all their handwaving. The guy still sits comfortably on top of their polls.

[forcipule]

[forcipule]

He's only 6 points behind Hillary in general election polls too, so it's not just the GOP.

And the Dems should be every bit as ashamed of their frontrunner too, if not more so.

[forcipule]

He's only 6 points behind Hillary in general election polls too, so it's not just the GOP.

And the Dems should be every bit as ashamed of their frontrunner too, if not more so.

[forcipule]

Trump dissed, people pissed.

[Brochettaward]

Why doesn't Reason go on rants about violent video games or movies or anything else morons cite as motivation for their crimes?

[SIV]

It seems to be the way things are heading.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

I think some Reason H&T regulars were probably in Mobile yesterday. This is getting more awesome in its explicitness.

[The Tone Police]

Go away, Tulpa.

[kbolino]

In all seriousness, Randian, for all the shit you get, I do enjoy what you write and have missed seeing your posts.

[The Tone Police]

Thank you, kbolino. I do appreciate that.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

Persistence doesn't equal truth.

Tulpa is, of course, a Republican. If he were here he would be handwaving along with the rest. I, on the other hand, don't think there can be enough coverage of this current and longstanding GOP frontrunner (wave hands now you guys! wave 'em!)

[RBS]

Tulpa is no such thing, he's a proud goddamn LAOL.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

One of Tulpa's main features was that libertarians who criticized Romney too much were playing into Obama's hands. Do you really think that's my position?

[The Tone Police]

Wow, you have different D&D characters for this comments section. Who gives a fuck.

[The Tone Police]

If Tulpa were here, you wouldn't be, because you might accidentally sign in under his account again.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

Whatever. What is your argument here? 'Tulpa criticized people here, and so do you, therefore you must be Tulpa?' Holy pathetic Batman.

Tulpa supported the police, I've never done that. Tulpa thought Reason was unfair to the GOP nominee. That's so hilarious concerning me, it's actually retarded. The need of people to shoehorn this into one distinct Goldstein is really pathetically hilarious.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Tulpa supported the police, I've never done that.

So what are you saying, a sock puppeteer can't run multiple personalities?

[Old Man With Candy]

He can't even spell "H&R", so have sympathy. The chronic masturbation and sexual contact with family pets has affected his vision. His mom warned him, but noooooo, he knew better. And now he's paying the price.

[Heroic Mulatto]

anything else morons cite as motivation for their crimes?

You mean Islam?

[Pan Zagloba]

That's different because reasons!

[Brochettaward]

I guess I'll say it's different because of sheer frequency.

Some nuts beating up a homeless guy and citing Trump as a reason doesn't really qualify as a good reason to cover Trump to me.

At this point, covering Trump is legitimate because his candidacy is terrifyingly legitimate. Not because two guys somewhere may have beaten up a Hispanic dude and may have been motivated by Trump.

[blank]

The anti-immigrant sentiments at the heart of Donald Trump's presidential campaign hit home for Boston early Wednesday, and the leading GOP candidate wasn't nearly as contrite about it as he should have been.

"The words that people use on the campaign trail, on the floors of Congress, on the nightly news, and in their living rooms have consequences," said Robert Trestan of the Anti-Defamation League. "The climate of bias and hostility against immigrants that has emerged in recent weeks is unproductive for the immigration debate and can pave the way for people to act on bigotry and prejudice."
Trump isn't likely to become president, but that doesn't make his brand of politics any less disgraceful. He doesn't seem to care much, but far from the spotlight Trump finds so addictive, some of his passionate supporters seem emboldened to act on long-simmering hate.

These two racist thugs, who by the way live in public housing, even had the nerve to complain about being excessively penalized because they are white.

Thank god that:

Prosecutors have charged brothers Steve and Scott Leader of South Boston with multiple counts of assault, as well as hate crimes, indecent exposure, and making threats.

I salute Reason for their ongoing crusade.

[forcipule]

"The words that people use on the campaign trail, on the floors of Congress, on the nightly news, and in their living rooms have consequences," said Robert Trestan of the Anti-Defamation League.

You know who else wanted to regulate the words people could use in their living rooms....

[blank]

forgot the link

[Crusty Juggler]

Why doesn't Reason spend more time talking about the issues I want them to discuss? Why, Reason, why?

[kbolino]

I'm sure they just missed the note attached to his donation.

[Agammamon]

Actually, in this case, I hoped they would dig up the nationality of the the victim. I haven't been able to find anything on him other than 'immigrant'.

Immigrant from where?

'Cause I'm betting that a Hispanic in Boston is more likely than not, Puerto Rican.

[SIV]

If Puerto Ricans are immigrants I want to deport every fucking Yankee from Georgia. "Walk home Yankee, here's a smallpox blanket in case you get cold"

[Pan Zagloba]

Call it The Reverse Sherman?

[Heroic Mulatto]

A Southerner talking about cold?

That's cute.

[blank]

Why doesn't Reason spend more time talking about the issues I want them to discuss? Why, Reason, why?

If you don't let people know what you want how will you ever get it?

[RBS]

No, fuck you, they have to cover my pet issues!

*runs home*

[AlmightyJB]

Well when they get a 500 comments every time Trump is in the headline why wouldn't that be what all their articles are about. It's all about page views.

[forcipule]

He still works in Boston, but cannot afford housing. Before the attack the man slept on the street and worked odd jobs, such as collecting discarded aluminum cans for the deposit money, which he sent to his elderly mother.

So he could afford housing, but chooses to send the money across the border instead.

[Agammamon]

Which is why its obviously correct to have kicked the shit out of him.

That money belongs to *AMERICANS*!!!!1111!!!

[blank]

So he could afford housing, but chooses to send the money across the border instead.

They wanted to paint the victim as sympathetically as possible. They went with the cliche hard working illegal immigrant who only is in this country to work so they can send the money back home to their dirt-poor family back in Mexico. Except, in this case, this narrative is completely absurd. His job is digging through dumpsters looking for aluminum cans. Boston is like 1850's California except instead of gold, everyone is flocking there for discarded bud light cans. The P.R. people on this are really fucking lazy.

[kbolino]

The media should be ashamed of fueling the "sympathetic victim" bullshit. It makes people treat the "unsympathetic" victims like shit, and since they often build the narrative before all the facts are in, they often end up with egg on their faces leading to resentment and mistrust. What matters is that a man was beaten, left physically weakened, and humiliated in his vulnerable state. Whether he sent his elderly grandmother a check every month or he was a gambling addict is irrelevant.

[blank]

The media should be ashamed of fueling the "sympathetic victim" bullshit.

Hey, they maybe trying to influence opinion or just trying to get eyeballs to their site, either way they will be more successful when they have a good story to tell. Reporting just the "facts" has little to do with news reporting. Were talking about their livelihood here. They've got boat payments to make. Besides, its not just outside interests benefiting, the victim gets treated well while he is still useful and if they are smart or media savvy they can use their moment in the spotlight as a launching pad into other endeavors.

[kbolino]

I know all that, and what you wrote is surprisingly insightful given your past commentary.

FWIW much of the public is just as much to blame as the media; equating someone to "the tail that wags the dog" doesn't excuse the dog.

[blank]

FWIW much of the public is just as much to blame as the media; equating someone to "the tail that wags the dog" doesn't excuse the dog.

I came to a realization that I was being naive regarding my expectation that news journalism should just be about reporting the truth. This was a fictitious construct of the media that they sold to me and I use to buy in to it. Nobody owes me the truth and if I truly want to find the truth I have to put in the work. I can't rely on others to explain everything to me and not expect them to lie to me.

While I have your attention, what do you think of the cognitive dissonance of the Boston Globe in the article I linked to earlier. Specifically, this comment:

In post-arrest interviews with the police, one of the men also whined that he and his brother were arrested because they are white, while immigrants are never arrested. In that, they echoed the twisted sense of victimization one hears from immigrant-bashers everywhere.

Prosecutors have charged brothers Steve and Scott Leader of South Boston with multiple counts of assault, as well as hate crimes, indecent exposure, and making threats.

[kbolino]

I might be too tired, or else the dissonance is very subtle, as I'm not seeing it.

[blank]

They are being charged with hate crimes because ... wait for it ... they are white. They do get additional charges because of their race while sanctuary cities shield illegal immigrants (for minor crimes).

[kbolino]

Didn't they say they were beating him because he was an immigrant? If they had stayed mum and were charged with a hate crime, then I would agree. As it stands, their motive is pretty transparent and, while I don't think "hate crimes" should even exist as a legal concept (kind of tying in with the whole "don't fuck over the 'unsympathetic victims'" perspective I have), this case isn't a great example of the misapplication of the charge.

[kbolino]

I would agree, though, that justice has been peeking out of the blindfold a lot lately.

[kbolino]

Also, I think I have you confused with another poster (blink?). If so, anything I said about "your past commentary" is meaningless, as it doesn't apply to you.

[blank]

this case isn't a great example of the misapplication of the charge.

Yes, I agree it is not a misapplication of the charge. The objective truth, however, is that because they are white the criminal justice system will go harder on them. That is the whole point of hate crime penalty enhancement. The author describes actual reality as only existing in a the heads of paranoid "immigrant-bashers". I know it is subtle and obscured by the fact that these two guys seem like pieces of shit who blame everyone for their problems but what the were "whining" about is an objective truth. Not relevant to their situation but still true none the less.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

"So he could afford housing, but chooses to send the money across the border instead."

Didn't it come out today that the attackers lived in their mother's public housing fraudulently?

[JeremyR]

So using an isolated incident when it's something that Reason is against is good, but when it's about something Reason is for, it's bad.

Donald Trump, Republicans, and all white people are to blame when someone beats up a Mexican.

OTOH, when an illegal Mexican kills someone, just shut up, it's not a problem.

Terrorism, nope, not ever a problem. Lightning kills more people. Muslims are peaceful

[Corning]

"For all those who have been complaining about all the coverage Reason has been giving to Donald Trump you should shutup:"

Next you will be telling me that video games cause violence against women

[__Warren__]

Will Trump take a dump in Pahrump?

[AlmightyJB]

It's hard to take a joke when you are a joke.

[Hyperion]

Wait, I have this really good one. It goes like this: Wiped, what with a cloth? Haahahahaa, I kill me, that's too fucking funny!

What, you peasants don't think it's funny? Then eat cake because it's my turn! That's funny!

[Almanian - Trump's Woodchipper]

YOU'RE a towel!

[Hyperion]

Like a towel to wipe something with?

[RBS]

Do you know what it's like to be...too dry?

[hardbodyFLA]

Amy poheler fucking sucks, and her entire show "Parks and Recreation" was conceived and filmed as a pro-Shillery propaganda piece, with Poehler herself acting as a thinly-veiled version of (an idealized) Hilary Clinton. Her sidekick Rashida jones is equally unfunny and her "documentary" about the sadness of porn stars is maybe the funniest thing she's ever done, not that its actually funny, but just that its some inane prog propaganda, like everything these SNL losers come up with. SNL fucking sucks too, btw.

[hardbodyFLA]

In other words I don't care that Amy poehler is being called out on her shitty jokes or that her own tribe and allies is taking to twitter against her. Reap what you plant or whatever.

[Hyperion]

Reap what you sow, lie in the bed that you made. Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.

[hardbodyFLA]

Raraku.

[Almanian - Trump's Woodchipper]

Dance with the one ya came with, run what ya brung, no rules - just right, tastes great, less filling

[Hyperion]

Less filling, tastes great! *punches fly*

[Hyperion]

Fuck, the Raiders and Vikings game was suspended because Minnesota is a crappy shithole unworthy of human habitation because you can't even play a sport outside without being killed by shitty weather.

[RBS]

Don't both (vikings and gophers) football teams have outdoor stadiums now?

[Hyperion]

I think this is the problem.

[Almanian - Trump's Woodchipper]

The wussification of America continues apace. Bad enough the baseball pussies won't play in the rain, but football games should be played in any weather, including hurricanes and tsunamis.

That is all.

[Hyperion]

The commentators said it's the 2nd time they ever remember a football game being suspended like that. I think what you meant to say is that the pussification of the NFL continues.

[Migrant Log Chipper]

Nope, many football games are suspended every year when t storms come in. Often in early year SEC contests.

The alleged wussies aren't going to protect their fans from a possible lighting strike that could kill a lot of them. While it's probably unlikely, it happens. Golf fans have been fried at golf tournaments in the past.

[RBS]

I just know I'm going to check this thread in the morning and it's going to be a clusterfuck.

[Hyperion]

A pre-season football game has been suspended! Gawd, don't you know what this means! *sighs in exasperation*

[RBS]

I meant the thread as a whole. I'm watching the Panthers, they are going to be terrible this year.

[Hyperion]

Yeah, but at least when you go see their game, the weather probably won't kill you.

[Migrant Log Chipper]

You obviously don't know much about weather in the southeast in the early fall.

[Pan Zagloba]

Agile Cyborg arrived, so it's gonna turn into something more glorious than simple clusterfuck!

[hardbodyFLA]

I actually came to this thread thinking "I'd like to post on reason today, I hope Agiler Cyborg is there, and its Saturday, and based on reports from AM/PM links, thats when he usually shows." Satisfied customer here.

[JeremyR]

They actually do play baseball in the rain quite a bit.

However, once players start slipping and sliding, then they stop.

[Pan Zagloba]

God damn, at least change your team names if you're gonna do that!

[Migrant Log Chipper]

Lightning, asshole. Where do you live so I can insult you?

[Agile Cyborg]

If you want the freest "country" on earth it must meet my criteria which none do which means this thing called freedom hasn't been resolved yet since the fucking dumbasses drew shit on the cave walls with their goddamn fingers.

I quote country simply because a small niches under caverns, oak leaves spread like thunder clouds, swamp havens, bohemian paradises next to piles of surf boards, and prob shit I've never seen yet... so freedom exists in a fullness in rare places like diamonds but let's get back to the iron boxes on the desks of leaders and dictators... vast collections of humans managed by a few are miserable examples of 'libertas' mainly because voters and citizens are largely morons. Abject sterile functionaries within the Muslim dungeon fucker places, the Communism super management awesome no. 1 leader camps times a billion of those fuckers, the wannabe free places like US and Sweden and Britain and Canada...

Freedom expression is:

[Hyperion]

At some indeterminable point in the past, the USA stopped being the freest country in the world. I remember, back in the 70s, can't go back further because I was only a child or not born yet, but I remember feeling so free.

[hardbodyFLA]

What'u up dude. Just wanted to tell you that I agree with and liked your words about needing to respect your meat animals. They do indeed contribute a great deal to satisfied living, and should be highly regarded as such for doing so, and meaning they should be treated respectfully and killed mercifully. You said all that but since you usually show up to thread kind of late I'll repeat it for those that missed your wisdom. 🙂

[Agile Cyborg]

I know a hardbody. My friend of my friend is a hardbody and I have seen this hardbody do things over the years I literally cannot write 40 books on. Hardbodies, the which I seek and destroy things over like that FUCKING STACK of shit in my garage I kicked with KEMPO energy because I fail so horribly. I party with hardbody dude all the time but one night Hardbody partied with me and my boy super late night in some strange FUCK place in really weird fields OHIO and Hardbody is tight. Man, I love my hardbody dude. every FUCKING dudes needs a hardbody. So my hardbody and my boy went to this wank ass place in the middle of some goddamn farming country... And we had some hot chicks with us and I went in and bought some bottles of corona. Two for each hand all night long. And so I had my first four coronas and the carpet was super tattered and shit and all and the farmers had been eating and shit...

[Agile Cyborg]

so the night was being turnt... except one table full of grungy fuck farmers all over 50. I had already fucking done a spliff and a line and some jack. and I was there to kill myself on my local band and fuck this shit... i moved in on this little bar like a goddamn fox because I kill bars with my moves, bitch, and I kill bars with my team, bitch. I kill bars with money and love and righteous love, bitch,,, so I saw my boys lined up cranking the juice and killing the amps and I died with Coronas on my fingers, baby, I FUCKING killed the dance and got all megadance in the middle of harsh corn field in a sweet bar with a team of dudes and chicks and hardbody fuck and farmers in a table that... refused to move and the dirt and grime of their fields and shoots turned into joy and glee and love... I danced with coronas in my fists and the nasty trolls of the bar turned into joyful big men santas and they laughed and cried with love in the soft and comforting fire of sweet bands and

[Agile Cyborg]

when the night was over. my hardbody we all love got fucked up... but so did all these other shits... and my main dude did to much jack and he killed a few bushes with his throat rockets and he ended up almost dead in his FUCKING shit car and two other fell out because they all did way too much drugs .. my sister and some bitches from the college dragged them all to the car and my sister and the hardbody and me was left at 3 in the morn and we walked out of this amazing bar thing space awesome shit stuff and sis and I were helping hardbody
buBUT BUT BUT hardbody went down....

He hit his knees on the asphalt under the moon and did this creepy voodoo thing and would've fallen on his attractive face but for my fucked up ass and my sisters fucked up ass and my shit was gone like a fuckadoo but we don't leave our babies..

[Agile Cyborg]

and this baby weighed a million pounds on the fucking parking lot and some dude drove the car over that my other friend had pucked all over and he was like super bahama mama jesus loves sausage twinkies over and over on the fucking front seat after and my weak ass sister with a super pretty face and awesome tits had to lift up a hardbody that passed out on a parking lot after a pass out- not good. Bitch was like a lead human being. Like a human being was cast in lead and condensed elephants.... dragging his body to the car was a goddamn nightmare. A FUCKING NIGHTMARE... a little hot chick and this big dude on coke and valium and 25 bottles of corona... we got it done tho... we drug the hardbody into the little car... and got home... man... whatanight.

[Agile Cyborg]

1. Draw any image. Period. Doesn't matter how fucking awful it is. Doesn't matter if the sketchoma is a pile of babies fucked by grandpa's. Legal.
2. Joke about anything. Period. Doesn't matter how fucking awful it is. Doesn't matter if the jokes are about a pile of grandma's being fucked by babies. Legal.
3. Create any fucking reality you desire. Period. Doesn't fucking matter how heinous the creation is. Doesn't matter if the all of the presidents are gang-raped by all their fucking heads of states. Legal.
4. Write the most absurd decrepit shit ever imagined by human beings maybe almost as mind-rending as the bible and the koran. Except worse.

[Agile Cyborg]

Let every lurid and unimaginable things exist that no actual lens captured in an actual existence. And even if the lens captures an actual existence it should bring forth those things that break the human or loft the human but not destroy the human as in the extremely rare case of the young captured in intimacy by themselves- a single area where freedom ventures cautiously and with trepidation. I say caution because a kid sending a kid a dick or tit shot is NOT child porn, US police chiefs. The POTENTIAL exists because of shit networks but between exploring young- it is an image of love or the moment under the stairs in YOUR basement, police chief and American parent. Period. Fuck your bootheel on the neck of the digital fondlings of the young. Yes, train them to treat tech unlike their youthful daliance but any law enforcement station or prosecutor in the land of the brave treating these fleeting sexual digital exchanges as a federal or state crime should be hung by the neck of reason which is a metaphorical brain spliff and a Kempo karate kick of realization and IQ growth in the fucking nether regions.

grow up, America and American law enforcement. Don't destroy our kids because kids are doing what the fucking thing kids do. Jesus goddamn Christ.

[Corning]

I don't know about Americans but Reason Hit and Run commentors certainly can't handle the word "Cuckservative"

[Almanian - Trump's Woodchipper]

I must admit an inordinate fascination with and like of that term. It's so....today.

[RBS]

I still don't really get it. Is it a play on cuckold or something?

[The Tone Police]

I guess that it is but it's really not that clever or funny.

[hardbodyFLA]

I think it means conservatives who subscribe to all but the most recent progressive tenets and play by progressive rules to try and get what they want, but idrk.... Its a neoreactionary thing though, and they are probably more conservatives than people who call themselves conservatives.

[Corning]

Yes.

I think generally it refers to conservatives who fall for the progressive narrative of MSM that everyone who does not bow to them are racist sexist homophobes. For example conservatives who called Trump sexist for arguing with that Fox news talking head lady.

It also has more nasty connotations in regards to race. One of the very early definitions of it at return of kings refer to one of the criteria for being a cuckservative is blaming the economic and political downfall of Detroit on unions rather then blacks.

I prefer the former definition.

Anyway i think it is funny in a sit back and eat popcorn as the fire works of a conservative civil war lights up the sky sort of way. Also the word is just awesome. it has Cuck in it which is like a cuss word that isn't technically a cuss word but actually has more of an effect on driving people batty then a real cuss word does. Wonderful on all levels.

[Migrant Log Chipper]

So you are an idiot. Detroit is a basket case and you are yucking it up whether the responsibility lies with the unions or the black Democrats that have ruled that shithole for 50 years.

What a douchebag, typical prog, why are you posting on a libertarian site. LMAO.

[Migrant Log Chipper]

No one cares but this douchebag (Corning) seems to get a woody over this term. Sort of describes the limits of his train of thought.

[Hyperion]

I fucking hate that term. Mostly because I have no idea what it means.

[*GILMORE*]

"Reason Hit and Run commentors certainly can't handle the word "Cuckservative""

As Swiss once said = you're confusing taking flak with being over the target.

Its fucking epic stupid in a few dimensions. I'd explain it to you further, but I think iowahawk does it better in 2 concise remarks.

[Corning]

Back in the day did you have a problem with neo-con because you thought it was anti-Semitic?

Note: I don't like the word neo-con. I mean it was used on W Bush. Wasn't he born a conservative from a conservative dad who also had a conservative dad? How can he be a "new" conservative? Also Hilary was and is a huge interventioist war hawk. Yet she gets a free get out of jail card cuz she is a democrat...which is bullshit. Ditto Obama who continued both wars for years after he took office.

[Irish ?s ESB]

"Back in the day did you have a problem with neo-con because you thought it was anti-Semitic?"

WUT.

Neo-con is an accurate descriptor of a political movement. Irving Kristol (who self-identified as a neo-conservative) wrote multiple books on the subject and explained what the term meant.

On the other hand, no one self-identifies as a 'cuckservative' and the people using the word cuckservative are disproportionately outright racists and the worst sort of reactionaries.

There is no comparison between the term 'neo-conservative' and the term 'cuckservative.'

[Corning]

How about "International banker"?

Do you think it is code for "Jew"?

[*GILMORE*]

Do you have a point or are you throwing spaghetti against a wall because you are incapable of any logical defense of the idiots who through the "cuck" term around?

which is something i think has gone entirely over your head. The offensiveness (or not) of the term itself is meaningless.

What is so epic retarded is the intent (as neatly summarized in yesterdays 10-point test) behind the use of the term....

....which clarifies that what they hate about "cuck" people is that they lack the *racial-centric view on domestic and foreign policy* that they do.

e.g.
Q#1 = BORDERZ!! Israel vs Mexico! Jews suck, mexicans suck, real CONS worry about Mexicans and fuck the joos!
Q#3 = stop being so concerned about the darkies
Q#4 = becuz the darkies are ruining Murka!1
Q#5 = n fuk the mezzikans too!

the rest being a bunch of populist anti-economic ignorance (free trade bad! unions good! Corporations suxx!)

its so fucking dumb i can't comprehend why you'd ever want to defend such brainless shit. unless of course.... that's your *thing*.

[Corning]

Why the fuck do I need to defend anyone?

I like the term it can be used as a substitute for RINO and it is endemic of civil war waging among conservatives which is great fun to watch.

[Migrant Log Chipper]

Therein lies Corning.

[Zaytsev]

One of the things that got Buchanan labeled as an anti-Semite in the late 80s-early 90s was his use of the term neo-con as a label for the pro-interventionist segment of the political establishment (note that I did not say republican).

Fun fact, several of Reagan's cabinet secretaries, specifically James Baker, Cap Wienberger and George Schulz, were called anti-Semites by the incipient neo-con movement.

[*GILMORE*]

"Back in the day did you have a problem with neo-con because you thought it was anti-Semitic?"

I don't even know what that means. Back in what day? why would i care what the implications of "Neocon" are? I'm neither jewish, nor Neoconservative.

I have complained in the past that people use the term without knowing what it means. Which I think you're probably doing now.

Are you trying to rebut the impression that "Cuckservative" is epic stupid by saying incomprehensible, stupid shit now?

[Migrant Log Chipper]

Exactly this.

[Corning]

"Neo-con" and "International banker" are words. Anyone can use them and it is shitty to call people racist because they use them.

Just like "cuckservative".

I don't think you think people who use neo-con and international banker are racist but you do know there are people who make such claims.

How do you feel when people make such claims?

Well that is how I feel about cuckservative. (as well as neo-con and international banker for that matter)

It is a word, not a monster under the bed. Get over it.

[Irish ?s ESB]

That's probably because of all the people I've seen on Twitter using cuckservative who are actual white supremacists.

It's very popular in misogynistic/racist circles because reactionary black-haters use it to attack those of us who don't despise the darkies.

[Corning]

"actual white supremacists."

AWS's? I don't think they exist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOv5ZjAOpC8

[Warty]

There isn't a stupider word than cuckservative. Anyone who says it unironically deserves all the mockery they get, and then some.

[Carl, Fighter of the Nightman]

"Cuckservative" reads like ironic 4chan /pol/tard trolling -- except people are actually using it in earnest.

[Warty]

REKT

[Carl, Fighter of the Nightman]

u avin a giggle m8?

[Heroic Mulatto]

1v1 me right now u cheeky camping scrublord! i swer u are one cheeky cunt mate, say 'uckservative to me face and not online and we'll see what happens. i swer on me nan's grave I'll hook you straight in the gabba. you better shut yr mouth or im calling me krewrite now preparin for a proper rumble. tha rumble thatll make your fit mum's kunt sore jus thinkin bout takin me bellend in it. yer in proper mess ya nob head.

[Carl, Fighter of the Nightman]

Is that kid a the (terrible) actor who makes a scene so bystanders come by and chew him out for being racist? That show is really grating.

Also, I can't believe you have nothing to say about the Institute for Metaphysical and Humanistic Science and the University of Metaphysics. I has a sad.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Is that kid a the (terrible) actor who makes a scene so bystanders come by and chew him out for being racist? That show is really grating.

Yes.

Also, I can't believe you have nothing to say about the Institute for Metaphysical and Humanistic Science and the University of Metaphysics. I has a sad.

I remember discussing it before; I think with you, actually. I would so get a PhD in Parapsychology from them just because of Ghostbusters. Wouldn't you want a PhD in Parapsychology and a proton pack?

[Carl, Fighter of the Nightman]

I remember discussing it before; I think with you, actually.

Hm. I don't remember that, but I have a bad memory, so it might be true.

I found another one. Apparently this is a pretty common definitely-not-a-scam-please-don't-sue-me. I wonder what percentage of people taking these programs are woo-loving morons and what percentage think they're ridiculous but just want "PhD" after their name.

[Almanian - Trump's Woodchipper]

Oh - hey, Botox.

*leaves again*

[kbolino]

The quality of left-leaning commentary on this site is sorely lacking. There's a few good posters but so many mendacious fuckwits.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

"quality of left-leaning commentary on this site is sorely lacking"

There's left leaning commentary on this site? (Other than all the Reason writers, of course)

[hardbodyFLA]

You would fall into the "mendacious fuckwit" category, Pajama Boy. I regret to inform you..

[Bo Cara Esq.]

"Pajama Boy"

Lol

[Migrant Log Chipper]

Bo is slow.

[kbolino]

I enjoy reading the posts of an honest debater even when I disagree with them. Although I mean no disrespect or misrepresentation, I would cite Calidissident as a solid left-leaning commenter. We all veer into fallacy or emotion from time to time (see: John) but if the balance of contribution is positive, then the voice is welcome.

The Voldemort-like hissing approximating laughter that will emanate from your mouth while reading what I just wrote, on the other hand, is but a flea on the back of the camel riding a blue whale swimming in an endless ocean covering the planet of mendacity that ever so gently tips the balance of your contributions into the negative realm.

[Irish ?s ESB]

Calidissident is not really left-leaning, he's a libertarian who is slightly left on social issues relative to other posters here.

He's an actual left-libertarian, I guess, which you might be able to call left-leaning, but he's still an obvious libertarian.

On the other hand, I'm not convinced at all that Bo is a libertarian. I think he cares much more about his progressive bona fides than he does about any libertarian principles.

[kbolino]

Yeah my wording might not have been the best. Lumping Cali and Bo into the same category does a great disservice to the former.

[Irish ?s ESB]

What's funny is that I'm 'left' on issues of race compared to a lot of posters here, such as John, and have been laughing my ass off for weeks about the obvious racism of the cuckservative crew. Yet Bo singles me out as supposedly being a racist.

Um...am I missing something?

[kbolino]

He thinks Warty is a secret Republican, so the amount of credence I give his assessments can be safely rounded down to zero.

[F. Carlos the Jackal, Jr.]

I haven't even heard Mike M. use "cuckservative". If such a term is beneath the man who brought us Block Insane Yomamma, that's a clue to its worth as a pejorative.

[Pan Zagloba]

Cytotoxic might be switching teams, so maybe that'll help!

[Hyperion]

You mean from Canuckistanian war monger to Murikan war monger? I've word that he already made that switch.

[Pan Zagloba]

No, from Objectivist to Socialist. He got so much sand in his vagina he's agitating to elect people who want $15 an hour minimum wage, return of mandatory rifle registration and pullout of Canadian troops from Syria.

[Hyperion]

I guess I haven't been paying attention. I thought he just wanted to get invited to Lindsey's house for a live feed of the Iran invasion.

[Pan Zagloba]

Oh he still has a warboner, but it'll pass. He seriously linked an article that used an argument, I shit you not, of "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter." Does that sound like his usual self?

[hardbodyFLA]

Cytotoxic agitating to pull militaries OUT of somewhere? Yeah right.

[Pan Zagloba]

Context: Canada has the federal election campaign on the way. Cytotoxic is supporting our socialist party, and one of their planks is stopping the bombing of ISIS, among other socialist stuff. Maybe he just figures, if his province gave them unlimited power, rest of the country needs to suffer some Chavismo too.

[Hyperion]

So, Canada is going to bomb ISIS? Ok then. Maybe a superior plan would have been to stop our best Secretary of State, ever, HillDawg, from setting ISIS up to take over Libya.

[Pan Zagloba]

Canada is already bombing ISIS, and our special forces are over there doing...things...that we don't talk about. Reason we know they are there is one guy got killed by the Kurds in friendly fire incident.
NDP (Socialists) voted against it because Americans are in favor.
Liberals voted for, except those who didn't show up, but their leader stated that Canada, since it has experience with winter weather, should be helping people in the mountains instead of whipping out our CF-18s.

[Hyperion]

You know, it would really have been so much easier if we didn't arm the good terrorists to start with. But what do I know.

[Pan Zagloba]

Yes, but when people tried to tell that to Assad he didn't care. Then he let the Islamists out to murder his opposition, and is shocked, shocked to discover they are murderous maniacs.
Seriously, if blowback is real, allowing fucking terrorists to use your country as a base for Iraq insurgency, then mowing down peaceful protesters to the point that you provoke a revolt is just begging for it.

[Irish ?s ESB]

The best part is that Cytotoxic is explicitly supporting the NDP because he thinks they wouldn't have criminalized prostitution like the conservatives did.

This makes no sense because in no other context has Cytotoxic every shown himself to care about prostitution that much, whereas he's all about military interventionism. So I have no idea why he's opposing the party most likely to support military intervention when that's his most important issue.

[Pan Zagloba]

Oh come on, you know that socialists just love to legalize prostitution, and not use the law as a cudgel to punish men who hire prostitutes!

[SIV]

Maybe, HIS MOM

[DEG]

The world's longest continual owner of a Rolls Royce car

[bob sacomano]

Just like to offer this important and profound take: Bo sucks. You really are the fucking worst Bo. That is all.

[Hyperion]

I've been posting on another site, for about 2 years now. Met someone else there who started liking my posts a lot and replying and I think I have convinced 'her', well she's almost or even maybe is a libertarian now. I wish I could say she was a progressive before, but, you know how difficult that is, she was a conservative republican but curious about libertarian ideas. Well..., you know I can't invite 'her' to post here because THIS IS WHY THERE ARE NO FEMALE LIBERTARIANS!

You fuckers, it's all your fault, I had nothing to do with it!

[RBS]

Let her talk to Bo or Shrike, they'll tell her all about the One True Way.

[Hyperion]

She'll totally fuck them up.

[Pan Zagloba]

Then bring her over. Sounds like 'she' and Nikki will get along famously!

[Hyperion]

Too soon. I've been very happy lately to see her develop that typical libertarian quick wit and sarcasm... I can't blow this. You know how it is.

[Pan Zagloba]

No, I live in Canada. I'm deeply, deeply in the closet. If people knew I leaned libertarian, it'd be like saying I fuck dolphins for profit.

[*GILMORE*]

"I fuck dolphins for profit."

That's shameful. You shouldn't put a price on love.

[Hyperion]

Heh, I know a lot of libertarians in Brazil. What do you think it's like for them?

Fuck, it sucks for us here in the USA. After a few decades (I've been Libertarian since 2007), they finally mention us occasionally in the news. But we have zero power as a political entity to this day.

[*GILMORE*]

" I can't blow this."

Remember those words when you discover that "She" is a burly He who thinks you have a cute mouth.

[Hyperion]

Like I care. I'm pretty sure it's a female. In fact, I'm 100% positive. Writing style is unmistakable female and she thinks she's my mom. So I'm convinced.

[Migrant Log Chipper]

Well done, the more the merrier.

[Warty]

Why do you people play with it? Maybe it isn't Tulpa after all, since it goes so hilariously apeshit every time someone calls it a virgin. But Tulpa or not Tulpa, it brings absolutely nothing to this place. Why reward it?

[Hyperion]

I don't respond to it. So at least give me credit, Sir Warty of Wartershire.

[kbolino]

Boredom, mostly.

[Irish ?s ESB]

" it goes so hilariously apeshit every time someone calls it a virgin"

This is why we play with it. The entertainment value of accurately calling Bo a virgin is immense.

[Warty]

On the other hand, now that I think about it, it seems more and more likely that Tulpa has never had sex. He's a pathological liar with a repellent personality, he loathes women and blames them for his failures, and he has a compulsive need to prove he's the smartest person in every room he's in. So, no, Bo being a virgin doesn't mean he's not Tulpa. In fact, him going apeshit every time someone calls him one feels an awful lot like evidence.

Oh, and Tulpa's a Jew-hater to boot. Remind you of any virgin lawyer impersonators?

[Warty]

And he's admitted to being a fat fuck, now that I think about it. What woman would have sex with such a pitiful excuse for a man?

[Heroic Mulatto]

What woman would have sex with such a pitiful excuse for a man?

A "working" one?

[*GILMORE*]

Who?

Life is so much better with the filter.

[Agile Cyborg]

I am an atheist that reads the bible occash.
and i see words that are powerfule
I see strength in those letters.
I understand the compelling lure of the angelic
and I get high on jesus but
I also vomit angle dicks and I also think great literature makes me fear things
and if you read the bible on shrooms it only gets worse.. Gideon is the name of a ufo that wants to fuck your Canaanite ass up with lasers no matter how many times you tell the bitch he doesn't exist and you ain't a goddamn canaanite. Shrooms are silly fucks but I do respect the Jesus orgasm if you are really cute and over 18 in a prayer closet, honey.

Please tell me about those trippy Jesus orgasms, dear... I promise not to tell my reason lovers.

[Hyperion]

I'm not religious either, Agile, but you know, there are some great quotes of wisdom from the Bible. Not even going to speculate on why, but they are there.

[Agile Cyborg]

I trip drugs on my Christian friend's song babe. He wrote a song that loves god and jesus and his words make my travel into worlds NOT a single one of you have traveled in whether you trip at an altar or trip in a desert...

Man, I know how deep christianity can trip a mind, bro... I love the worship of christianity

BUT, modern Christians, don't know the old school worship patterns...

I was 6 worshipping at old school black pentecostalisms with a cultist Branhamite Pentecostal hybrid.... the mind starts young at the altars....

you read the bible? But has the bible made you trip?

[Sevo]

"Not even going to speculate on why, but they are there."

I will.
Because it was written by mankind; that's where the wisdom comes from regardless of whether it was written and later included in 'the bible' or ended up as a Shakespeare play.
BTW, 'the bible' was assembled in Bone', Algeria, some 600 years after the supposed life of Junior. A committee collected the various scriptures and voted on which ones to include.

[Warty]

I never called myself an atheist until I read the Bible. If you come to the Bible for the first time as an adult, and you're not a full-blown atheist before you're halfway through Genesis, something's wrong with you.

[Agile Cyborg]

I know the bible better than most of Christianity- aside from the old school daily readers who are now in their 60's and started when they were 14. yea

[This Machine Chips Fascists]

It wouldn't hurt any young person to read through Proverbs at least once. Plenty of wisdom there. I love the cast the first stone story. Much respect for "Jesus" integrity in that situation.

[Sevo]

This Machine Chips Fascists|8.22.15 @ 10:53PM|#
"It wouldn't hurt any young person to read through Proverbs at least once. Plenty of wisdom there."

So long as they understand it was written by just plain humans and they can ignore specious claims of mythology, I'd agree.
Greek and Roman mythology is equally full of human wisdom.

[This Machine Chips Fascists]

Agreed. The mythology and metaphysics is right out.

[The Hyperbole]

I've been trying to slog through it for a few years now, horrible novel, no character development, the story arcs are played out and hackneyed, and the abuse of Deus ex machina as a plot device is staggering.

[Warty]

HEY
HEY HYPERBOLE
YEAH YOU
KILL YOUR SON
YOUR SON
FUCKING KILL THAT FUCK
BECAUSE I SAID SO YOU FUCKING FAGGOT
DO IT
KILL HIM
KILL
KILL
PSYCH
NAW DAWG I'M JUST JOKIN BRO

[Irish ?s ESB]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO129-RfhVE

Christopher Hitchens had a wonderful quote about that vile story.

[The Hyperbole]

Wha? that's from the Bible! I always thought that was a Dylan tune.

[Corning]

If you come to the Bible for the first time as an adult

I was taught it as a child I guess i wasn't an atheist then. Just went along to get along i guess. Then i just stopped believing. So now i am incapable of reading it for the first time as an adult and be converted.

Why would god design and make people who damn themselves to hell by being taught the bible at a young age?

That really seems like a shitty thing for god to do don't you think?

"TIGER, tiger, burning bright
In the forests of the night,
What immortal hand or eye
Could frame thy fearful symmetry?"

[Corning]

Oh wait...i totally misread what you wrote.
Never mind.

[hardbodyFLA]

Next time your down for some holy book action you should go for the Ramayana and the Baghavad Gita. Not saying its better or worse than the bibles, but its a fresh story still, and has some powerful wise words. Plus theres many more stuff out there too. Dont limit yourself to tired Abrahamic texts, its like limiting yourself to Wheel of Time instead of finding LOTR and Dune.

[hardbodyFLA]

Previer trailer: monkey army

[Agile Cyborg]

Lawyers are rarely killed in all the battles and I am cool with human life not being taken
but can't someone come up with a teleportation device for lawyers into that blank space out there
.... maybe they end up in paradise with jesus? I think Jesus loves lawyers so much that he would look at Mohammed across the heaven gulf and say. 'bitch, you want these?'... Mohammed would be like, 'you send em here I'm beheading em all and NOT givin em virgins"... so Jesus sends them to Satan and Satan's like, what the FUCK are you all doing here? "I hate you bitches" I can't do this fuckcum..." Chthululu? Sir, Mr. SIR CHTHULU? Sir, this is Satan, sir... God and Muhommed hates these lawyers and prosecutors and attorneys, sir. I understand that I am the dark lord of the universe sir but you ARE the SAMURAI o' LIGHT BEREFT and therefore I cannot compete withyou and therefore as always... can you take care of these shit, sir Chthulu?

Sir Chthulu: a billion sun lasers burning a thousand times over the sands of all the planets...

"what lawyers, prosecutors, and attorneys, Lord Satan"? I blinked and your request was gone.

And libertarians slept soundly knowing their vast universe was doing strange but awesome things

[Agile Cyborg]

Lawyers are rarely killed in all the battles and I am cool with human life not being taken
but can't someone come up with a teleportation device for lawyers into that blank space out there
.... maybe they end up in paradise with jesus? I think Jesus loves lawyers so much that he would look at Mohammed across the heaven gulf and say. 'bitch, you want these?'... Mohammed would be like, 'you send em here I'm beheading em all and NOT givin em virgins"... so Jesus sends them to Satan and Satan's like, what the FUCK are you all doing here? "I hate you bitches" I can't do this fuckcum..." Chthululu? Sir, Mr. SIR CHTHULU? Sir, this is Satan, sir... God and Muhommed hates these lawyers and prosecutors and attorneys, sir. I understand that I am the dark lord of the universe sir but you ARE the SAMURAI o' LIGHT BEREFT and therefore I cannot compete withyou and therefore as always... can you take care of these shit, sir Chthulu?

Sir Chthulu: a billion sun lasers burning a thousand times over the sands of all the planets...

"what lawyers, prosecutors, and attorneys, Lord Satan"? I blinked and your request was gone.

And libertarians slept soundly knowing their vast universe was doing strange but awesome things

[Agile Cyborg]

Lawyers are rarely killed in all the battles and I am cool with human life not being taken
but can't someone come up with a teleportation device for lawyers into that blank space out there
.... maybe they end up in paradise with jesus? I think Jesus loves lawyers so much that he would look at Mohammed across the heaven gulf and say. 'bitch, you want these?'... Mohammed would be like, 'you send em here I'm beheading em all and NOT givin em virgins"... so Jesus sends them to Satan and Satan's like, what the FUCK are you all doing here? "I hate you bitches" I can't do this fuckcum..." Chthululu? Sir, Mr. SIR CHTHULU? Sir, this is Satan, sir... God and Muhommed hates these lawyers and prosecutors and attorneys, sir. I understand that I am the dark lord of the universe sir but you ARE the SAMURAI o' LIGHT BEREFT and therefore I cannot compete withyou and therefore as always... can you take care of these shit, sir Chthulu?

Sir Chthulu: a billion sun lasers burning a thousand times over the sands of all the planets...

"what lawyers, prosecutors, and attorneys, Lord Satan"? I blinked and your request was gone.

And libertarians slept soundly knowing their vast universe was doing strange but awesome things

[Agile Cyborg]

Well that was not meant... fuck

[Agile Cyborg]

I really don't know how I fucking posted that thrice..

I sincereliosy apologize brethren

[Pan Zagloba]

Squirrels hate an eloquent man. Bear their scorn as a mark of honor!

[Agile Cyborg]

Oh look at this thread zulu.... what is this thing in the forest? a pan zagloba... hmmm.

well that name is either one of my brothers and 2.2 sisters trying something new like they are wont to do or this is a new creature unto the threads....

Peace out, regardless... your words are lovely and peace...

[Agile Cyborg]

The monster muscles of the thread forests are chilling brilliants and I love you motherfucking cunts.
Forever.

[Agile Cyborg]

I was sitting at my desk one thing we call a day and my
arm fell off and my arm didnt bleed or anything but it fell
off it was squirming on the floor and then my leg fell off
and i had a fucking leg and a arm on the floor man so I was flying an airplane
and my arm and leg was in the floor and I realized I did too much
codein mixed klono and then i landed the plane immediately
left the castle for my friends pecker house where all his fags
hung because swamp gator likes to fuck the old beard
its cool...

big old dudes fucking harley davidson assholes... I seen it...
bears acting like fucking whores in the edge with doctors and plumbers
seen it but I pref deeper drug scene babies...
Bitches sniffing valium lines man
bro... see the lights unto the physics and if your shit can't roll
don't swamp beneath the waves, brother...
man, bitches be grinding the pills... man you ain't gonna get this
shit on vice

Vice is too suburban...
deep deep shit is about grinding grinding grinding ... means hardcore shit... but as a dude who hangs
here don't go dat deep, nigga...

you can die...
mix that shit too deep...
get heaven and a coffin...

[Agile Cyborg]

your toes can feel like they is always in water.
and your body can feel like its always in lightning....

[straffinrun]

I'm confused. How racist are the racists that hate racists? What a fucking thread.

[Agile Cyborg]

a fucking line is a fucking circle light is a burrito spacefuck of time and lines and lights man....

[commodious spittoon]

Fuck 'em. Seriously. No apologies, no backtracking, no backing down, now backing away. Issue a curt dismissal and then snarky replies mocking the idiots who cannot stand being dismissed. As long as it takes. Never take them seriously, and never take it personally. Just give them enough rope to hang themselves. It will drive them batshit and will entertain your real fans, and more importantly won't make you look like a milquetoast sap bending over for your social justice reaming. Because: fuck 'em.

[josh]

there are lots of problems with all of this of course, but the biggest is that even the people complaining don't really care about the joke, as much as they care about who the joke had as the recipient of being pissed on. and that's just discrimination against the rest of us...to think it's ok to piss on us, but not some child with all the perks. she's not better than me.

[Sevo]

OK, Amy P. is a lefty twit.
She floated a joke the lefties didn't like. Had it been one that those on the right didn't like, the gripes would have been ignored and she would be doing a victory dance.
Hey, Amy! Like your buddies now?

[straffinrun]

A few years back a female Japanese co worker and I would tell stupid racist jokes about each other's race. We did it in a way to mock people who would tell the jokes in earnest. One day we were smoking outside and a nikkei American co worker overheard a joke I told her and followed me to the station and went full bore California PC on me. I let him finish then told him to fuck off.

It cracked me up that this warrior's Japanese sucked despite being in Japan longer than I. His job wasn't to actually learn the language or culture, but to go off half cocked on any perceived offense. He could've asked me what that was all about, but the chance to show his self righteousness was too powerful to contain.

[Professor Woland]

I could be wrong on this, but isn't ethnic humor really popular in Japan, even ethnic humor about the Japanese?

[straffinrun]

Yes. They are like all other sentient humans that recognize humans have differences and find humor in it. It's all about intent. Too many people in the US, it seems to me, think they know what the intent is despite being way off the mark.

[SamDod598]

lol, I fail to see the humor in that.

http://www.Total-Privacy.tk

[Fist of Etiquette]

This entire comments section is not okay.

[simplybe]

I am 68 and it seems that people look for ways to be offended. I truly believe the world is fixing to degenerate into chaos. Being an anarchist I suppose I should be thrilled but since people seem to love being lead we will probably end up with a totalitarian form of government and a citizenry of mindless robots.

[Old Man With Candy]

I am 68 and it seems that people look for ways to be offended.

That right there offends me. Get off Society's teat, Gramps!

[simplybe]

The problem with Progressive Democrats is they want a collective. The perfect beehive if you will. Problem is they don't want to be part of the hive. They want to be the bee keepers.

[Tony]

Nobody is forcing anyone to take the loudest and fastest Tweet as the authority on the appropriateness of a joke. It is completely arbitrary which jokes get called out anyway.

[mswen]

Obviously, a few hundred, or thousand, Twitter critics proves that 300 million Americans can't take a joke anymore. I happen to like this show, but not nearly as much as I hate Twitter.

Anyone who pushes the envelope is going to feel some resistance. We may look back at people like Lenny Bruce or Henry Miller and see them as pioneers or martyrs of free speech, but they all had more than their share of critics in their time. Every generation will have its extreme censors, and its, "You may have the right, but you shouldn't make a joke like that," people, and everything in between. When I hear someone complaining that PC culture has ruined comedy, or that no one can take a joke anymore, I typically think that they just have a poor sense of humor. There are loads of talented people who manage to continue making jokes, many of which are about touchy subjects like race, gender, or LGBT issues. Good comedians use comedy as a platform to approach difficult issues and convince people to look at them a little differently, without coming off as preachy. Poor comedians try to imitate good comedians, but they tell controversial jokes for the wrong reason. They either come off as dickheads, or use jokes long after they've stopped being funny, and then they blame the audience.