Minimum Wage

L.A. Unions Seek Exemption from Minimum Wage Hike They Helped Push Through

Corrupt labor leader has the gall to call his rule-bending 'freedom'

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We can at least thank the perpetually debased political class of Los Angeles for being transparent in their gag-inducing shamelessness. You recall the historic 14-1 vote 10 days ago by the union-dominated L.A. City Council to raise the minimum wage to $15? Well, the Los Angeles Times is reporting on the next shoe to drop:

For much of the past eight months, labor activists have argued against special considerations for business owners, such as restaurateurs, who said they would have trouble complying with the mandated pay increase.

But Rusty Hicks, who heads the county Federation of Labor and helps lead the Raise the Wage coalition, said Tuesday night that companies with workers represented by unions should have leeway to negotiate a wage below that mandated by the law.

"With a collective bargaining agreement, a business owner and the employees negotiate an agreement that works for them both. The agreement allows each party to prioritize what is important to them," Hicks said in a statement. "This provision gives the parties the option, the freedom, to negotiate that agreement. And that is a good thing."

Rusty Hicks. ||| SCPR.org
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Hicks has more than a rusty conception of "freedom." True freedom—heck, true industrial freedom, to exhume a resonant California phrase—is about letting those icky other people come up with their own agreements, even if you don't quite fancy the terms. There's another word available to describe forcing people under threat of government punishment to comply with terms you have dictated, and then turning around and exempting yourself from those rules: blatant, coercive corruption.

A side note about L.A.'s latest attempt to enact social policy on the backs of local business: What happens when government intervention makes a particular good significantly more expensive? As J.D. Tuccille never tires of reminding us, black markets happen. Hmmm, let's see, does Southern California have any familiarity with black markets in labor? My prediction: By 2020, when the full $15 wage is in effect, you'll see plenty of chronically under-employed native born joining the illegal immigrants at the region's several government-funded day-labor centers. Sometimes the Blue Model is just breathtaking to behold.

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  1. The mendacious fuckery of progressive thought knows no bounds.

    1. So I’m just now into season 2 of The Wire. It’s all making sense now.

  2. Oh, and L.A.? Seattle says, “you’re welcome, bitches”

    What’s it feel like to have your city run by corrupt douchenozzles who believe the economic earth is 6000 years old?

    Haaa!

  3. By 2020, when the full $15 wage is in effect, you’ll see plenty of chronically under-employed native born joining the illegal immigrants at the region’s several government-funded day-labor centers.

    Yup. Let in millions of low-skilled workers who push down wages at the bottom, then raise the minimum wage. Brilliant.

    1. It’s the American Dream!

      1. All is working well, then. More and more people are becoming separated, economically at least, from the established order. But I would expect more libertarian sympathy for the poor union which is, after all, just another business suffering under the weight of government regulation.

        1. “[…]But I would expect more libertarian sympathy for the poor union which is, after all, just another business suffering under the weight of government regulation.”

          Sarc, right?

    2. I have a solution. Bribe a Mexican official to push your Mexican citizenship request through. Then go to Mexico. Once there, illegally cross the border. As an illegal alien, demand all the welfare you can get your hands on. Problem solved.

  4. “Prevailing wage” taken one step further. Not surprising, but horrible.

  5. you’ll see plenty of chronically under-employed native born joining the illegal immigrants at the region’s several government-funded day-labor centers

    They have “day-labor centers” in LA?! Here in NYC they just stand on street corners. But I doubt your prediction – natives tend to run to the nearest government office for a handout.

    1. What makes you think people don’t do both?

      1. Well, I imagine the day laborors don’t go for the government handouts because they’re here illegally.

        1. Why wouldn’t they? They probably already have the necessary fake documents and they have nothing to lose.

    2. They have official day labor centers. The unofficial ones are at every Lowe’s, Home Depot, and U-Haul outlet.

      1. I have know idea why I see a half-dozen or so every morning on my corner – there is a comic book store, a bodega, a middle-east market, and a bank.

    3. In Virginia, “day-labor centers” were simply known as “Home Depot.”

      1. Oh yeah. The corner of Little River Turnpike and Carlin Springs Road in Annandale was (probably is) “The Carlin Spring Employment Office”.

        1. Carlin Springs Road runs from Glebe Road in Arlington to Seminary Road in Baileys Crossroads. It doesn’t go to Annandale. The Home Depot in Annandale is at the corner of Little River Turnpike and *Braddock Road*. (Where the “Carlin Springs Employment Office” name came from would be a mystery, though.)

  6. Oh, and I just heard from a friend that his favorite breakfast place in Oakland is closing down because of the new minimum wage.

    1. I have a lefty, up-with-unions friend in SF (shocking, I know). I’m curious to get his take except I never, ever engage in politics with him or anyone else on Facebook.

      1. It’s fun sometimes. I guy I used to work with is full lefty proggie and so unaware of any reality as to make your head spin. He works for the state, of course. Expat Brit. He posted some diatribe during the recent UK election all in favor of socialism, so I threw in a bomb about 20th century socialists killing 100M people while capitalists lifted billions out of poverty. Crickets. So I assume he had no counter facts.

        So engage once in a while. It’s fun to think of them seeting with inner anger, not even really able to rail with their fellow travelers because they’d have to repeat the facts which they can’t counter.

        1. I had some people in a tizzy on Facebook by challenging a stupid Baltimore meme/image macro about how Baltimore spends too much on prisons and not enough on schools. I pointed out that Baltimore’s per-pupil spending was among the highest in the country, and they still had terrible schools, so money was not the issue. Then I pointed out that Baltimore had been under 100% Democrat control for 50 years, had billions spent on it in the stimulus and before, and yet it still sucked. So why was that? Is the solution really to spend harder?

          Unconvincing explanations ranged from “Republicans crashing the economy in 2008” to “We’re not socialist enough like Northern Europe,” but finally settled down to me being “a terrible person who is holding the country back.”

          1. You’re doing God’s work in some of the hardest neighborhoods on the internet, Papaya.

            1. Thank you. It’s depressing, though, and doesn’t help me get laid in SF….

  7. Wouldn’t they want union employees to have higher wages? That means more dues for the unions, doesn’t it?

    It’s one of two things (or both). I’m assuming they are hoping to be the cheapest form of labor in town so that union labor is considered as an option for businesses that would otherwise never think of letting their workforce unionize, or they know that it will be detrimental to their workforce as it would be to all workforces.

    That’s just way too much credit for economic literacy than I’m willing to give them though.

    1. Unions are essentially about preservation of power and benefits, so often concessions apply only to “new” hires.

      Analogous to what we see in the general population – i.e. flow of money to retirees via SS/Medicare.

    2. No, it means less dues because they know it reduces employment. Plus the unions, in the end, don’t want to damage the companies they’ve already unionized. This is all a way to nudge everyone towards unionization.

      1. This is all a way to nudge everyone towards unionization.

        Indeed. I thought it a rather brilliant play.

        1. Indeed they already cornered the market on mid wage do nothing .gov jobs, now its time to corner the unskilled blue collar market

          1. In five years they will be wondering how to join RoboUnion Local 0110001.

      2. Like California needed more nudging, for Christ sakes. Even the doctors are unionized in California.

        If that was the union’s game plan, it was redundant in its totality.

        1. This is a state that nearly voted in a communist for governor in the ’30s. In the end, none of this is particularly surprising.

          1. Particularly, the mass exodus to Texas.

            Next step – border fences. And not to keep illegals out.

            1. I wish they would just stay in California instead of trying to infect Texas with the same retarded progressive bullshit that has made a state with some of the best natural resources (mountains, beaches, forest, etc.) a complete shithole.

              1. On the bright side, it is the persuasive middle who leave California and move to Texas. Not the hard left commies.

                I know. When NUMMI closed, Tacoma production moved to San Antonio and I coulda (shoulda) left the Bay Area for brighter pastures.

                1. Yes but here in Austin the prog is strong. I make a point to bitch about the plastic bag ban every time I go to a convenience store. And now they’re banning food trucks and BBQ stands on pollution and don’t make our children fat grounds. But it is blessedly free of coastal prog derp for the most part.

                  1. They’re banning BBQ in TEXAS?!
                    My Gawd! That’s fuckin’ sacrilegious.
                    String ’em up.

                  2. Well Austin has the tag-team proggie tandem of a huge university, and a huge state government. Academicians and Bureaucrats galore! No wonder its infested.

                  3. For most of us, outside of Austin at least, the endless pearl clutching is a form of entertainment.

              2. As long as they don’t stop in NM, I’m fine with them going to TX. Well, no, shit. Then I’ll have that idiocy on both sides. We’d best put up a wall to keep ’em in CA.

              3. Everyone should get on board with my plan to euthanize progressives.

    3. Wouldn’t they want union employees to have higher wages? That means more dues for the unions, doesn’t it?

      Oh, that’s funny!

      No, they simply want people to join unions and pay their dues.

      1. Right. They don’t want the union itself to have to hire union employees because it is costlier than the dues they would receive.

    4. The union bosses never gave a shit about workers. All they care about is stealing a cut from as many workers’ paychecks as they can. Being able to offer lower-cost labor from union victims than from free labor fits in perfectly with their actual goals.

      -jcr

  8. With a collective bargaining agreement, a business owner and the employees negotiate an agreement that works for them both.

    Unlike any other contract.

    1. Silly libertarian, individuals can’t negotiate agreements or have rights, that’s for groups only.

      1. Who’s leaders make a lot more money than the average joe ever will.

    2. But Fist, someone might negotiate an unfair contract that isn’t in their best interest! Because only the borg we could possibly know what’s best.

      1. +1 Top Men

    3. If you just focus on everything after the first clause in the sentence, he sounds like a corporate shill, TOOL OF THE OPPRESSOR!

    4. So when you have completed negotiations with a third party, do you refer to them as having been ‘fisted’?

  9. C’mon Matt. You already know they’ll blame someone else for their own shitty diapers. Rick the Screaming Scapegoat or Global Climate Chaos or George Bush or something. But never, ever, ever them.

  10. Well, that was easy! Pass a law and grow the economy.

    We need more laws, people!!!

    1. There should be a law somewhere affirming this.

      1. Laws are good for you and good for me and good for everyone!

  11. That’s actually brilliant on behalf of union leadership. Evil, but brilliant.

    Campaign for min wage hikes, and make half of LA’s low wage labor unemployable. For the businesses interested in staying open, the only option would be to go through the union. Feel the Power of the Dark side flow through you as you control the city like a puppet. And don’t forget those Union dues!

    1. Exactly. The whole minimum wage thing was strictly a ploy to boost Union membership by making Union workers the cheapest game in town. That Bond Villain level devious

  12. It seems like being paid “under the table” will be the new normal.

    1. If by “under the table” you mean “I’ll be getting a lot more blowjobs,” I’m ok with that.

      1. Barter system aficionado, are you? I hope your better half isn’t looking over your shoulder.

        1. Or at the grocery store, in the manager’s office, “paying” for groceries.

  13. When the shit hits the fan, those 14 “yeas” will be long gone and nowhere to be seen.

    Is any politician ever held accountable for the mess he/she created?

    Ever?

      1. Then we’re all fucked.

      2. Nope, happily lived out his last years in Argentina.

    1. Mussolini too, in a much more satisfying way.

      1. Ah, the good ol’ days

        1. I thought he was finally killed at the end of the Occult War in ’58. Of course scientists saved his brain and transplanted it into the body of a tiger shark. Some say that was going too far,

  14. Lefties deride corporations as small groups with immense amounts of political and economic power, working in collusion with the government to take advantage of the little guy for their own personal gain.

    These same people are in love with the unions, which actually are small groups with immense amounts of political and economic power, working in collusion with the government to take advantage of the little guy for their own personal gain.

    I’m constantly flabbergasted that they can not only get away with things this openly duplicitous, but do it often and to the sound of trumpets from the left.

    1. Standing ovation.

    2. But……but……feelz! ………Intentionz!!!!!

  15. Sure California! Be super stupid and send even more jobs to Texas!!!

    You may think you’re “helping workers”, but you’re just expediting the exodus.

    1. Ah, but you overlook the boon this creates in moving companies.

      1. +1 for variation of Krugman’s war is great for the economy.

  16. Federalism. The solution to stupid laws and arrogant and economically illiterate politicians.

  17. “This provision gives the parties the option, the freedom, to negotiate that agreement. And that is a good thing.”

    An appeal to freedom. That’s…
    ballsy.

    1. Hey, Huckabee says ‘trust in government is at an all-time low’ (so vote Huckabee), Sanders says ‘no one trusts government anymore’ (so vote Sanders) and union leaders use “an appeal to freedom” to push their own version of a statist paradise.

      I consider the theft of libertarian terms a weird version of flattery.

      1. No one trusts government. By Sander’s own admission. So he is campaigning on a o,at ofm of way more government. On steroids, and an overdose of gamma rays.

  18. Sometimes the Blue Model is just breathtaking to behold.

    You could point this out to your pals at MSNBC, if you were ever actually permitted to speak, instead of just being used as a set decoration.

    1. Give Matt a break. He’s just bringing home the bacon.

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  20. Brilliant, fool the business owners into supporting unionizing their workforce bc it will (initially) cost them less while swelling the number of unionized workers, making those in charge of the Union more powerful. Then over time negotiate for more costly benefits & the business owners will be unable to resist the powerful union.

    1. Bah, I was far too slow on that point.

  21. Could be a smart move, if the only employees able to work for below minimum wage are union employees, then you are going to see a ton of businesses unionize or be much more open to unions in order to get that benefit.

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  23. There’s another word available to describe forcing people under threat of government punishment to comply with terms you have dictated, and then turning around and exempting yourself from those rules: Congress.

    Fixed it for you.

  24. I love it. LOVE it! Can hardly believe it, but love the hypocrisy.

  25. It’s brilliant. the best way to “force” businesses to unionize, and proof the union leaders only care about staying in power. “Unionize and have our support to screw the worker or be forced to pay $15 and hour.” If I was working for a business that paid $15 and hour you’d be sure that I would fight unionizing so they could pay me less. I would love to be a business owner and say to the unions, ok, we will negotiate your members pay under 15 and all those who aren’t in, or quit the union will get $15.

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  27. Now the other shoe drops. It’s a scheme to increase labor union membership. “You can pay your employees less if you let us unionize your company.”

    Then in a year or so they’ll go on strike over “unfair” wages.

  28. There’s another word available to describe forcing people under threat of government punishment to comply with terms you have dictated, and then turning around and exempting yourself from those rules: blatant, coercive corruption.- While this may be a accurate assessment, one might consider how many, or few, In L.A. are making less than 15$… already as a Public Employee.

    But more important is the basis of most pay contracts that doesn’t use Minimum Wage as a ‘at least’ measure, but as an ongoing measure. To say, most contracts are settled by, when the ‘Minimum’ goes up, so does the pay scale.. in a matching amount.

    While wage stagnation has been a burden since 1993< pay 3000$ in taxation increase, so ‘Public’ get an extra 5$- 10K per year, 7K net after taxation that has to happen at all levels of government.

    1. I’m not sure forcing this to happen should happen without ‘Private’ wage increases, to spread the the ‘Tax’ Pain, around and substantially, with only Public’s gaining, it makes middle class private job formation much more difficult… the only historical method of really increasing job numbers and fading a recession with significant increases from small business hiring.

      Over all, after the three current ‘Tax Ideals’ are probably installed, 300$ a month for ‘Minimum wage’, 300$ a month for the increased new Health Care provisions, 300$ a month for the coming
      ‘my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket’, the Publics 10K/5$ simply goes to taxation but the 70 million ‘privates’, includes the Middle class and Small enterprise peoples we’ve, as a Nation, had bring job formation levels up some 350K per month or more to signal any serious continued growth in GDP.

      All this is before considering Inflation, which the measuring method has changed 10 times since 1996. Costs are up and we need a better solution than simply giving 30 million Dem voters a “Raise”.

  29. I think they are anticipating a mad bout of inflation that will make the wage increase irrelevant.

  30. “…companies with workers represented by unions should have leeway to negotiate a wage below that mandated by the law.”

    The hypocrisy is unbelievable here!

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