The last time we checked in with Jerry Brown, California's governor for life, he was channeling his best Zen-fascist aura, taking a break from hawking a monstrously stupid and expensive high-speed rail project, and forcing Golden State residents to ration the home use of water.
This, despite the inconvenient truth that California's highly subsidized agribultural sector uses 80 percent of the state's available water, often to grow water-intensive crops such as almonds and alfalfa. For all that, ag contributes a puny 2 percent of the state's GDP. So by all means, squeeze residential users rather than, I don't know, introduce markets, property rights, and real prices into water consumption.
But today is Earth Day, so Brown, the subject of what is to my mind one of the greatest political protest songs ever (California Uber Alles, by the Dead Kennedys), is upping End-of-Worldism that has often accompanied his rhetoric. He has now issued the following "Warning to Humanity":
Five inextricably linked areas must be addressed simultaneously:
1. We must bring environmentally damaging activities under control to restore and protect the integrity of the earth's systems we depend on. We must, for example, move away from fossil fuels to more benign, inexhaustible energy sources to cut greenhouse gas emissions and the pollution of our air and water. Priority must be given to the development of energy sources matched to third world needs--small scale and relatively easy to implement. We must halt deforestation, injury to and loss of agricultural land, and the loss of terrestrial and marine plant and animal species.
2. We must manage resources crucial to human welfare more effectively. We must give high priority to efficient use of energy, water, and other materials, including expansion of conservation and recycling.
3. We must stabilize population. This will be possible only if all nations recognize that it requires improved social and economic conditions, and the adoption of effective, voluntary family planning.
4. We must reduce and eventually eliminate poverty.
5. We must ensure sexual equality, and guarantee women control over their own reproductive decisions.
This sort of thing is pro forma on Earth Day, despite the fact that many of the causes and concerns that spurred the first Earth Day are in fact much, much better. Air quality is better everywhere in the United States than it used to be (full disclosure: that's in large part to top-down regulations that libertarians typically rail against). So is water quality. Nobody's a litter bug anymore and trash is no longer a leading cause of aural stereotypes in public-service announcements (listen to the most-famous PSA ever and tell me its soundtrack isn't offensive to contemporary ears). The only people still hopped-up about overpopulation are, apparently, Jerry Brown, anti-immigration activists, and disgruntled ex-Sierra Club supporters. As Jonathan V. Last documented in his excellent 2013 study, What to Expect When No One's Expecting, the global fertility rate was 6.0 in 1979; it's now at 2.52 and dropping so fast that 97 percent of the world's population lives in a country where fertility is declining.
As Ronald Bailey, Reason's Science Correspondent, wrote in 2010 (when Earth Day turned 40), the environmentalist thinking behind the celebration has a long history of changing its goals once they are reached. Like the neocon militarists, greens don't seem to want to declare victory and bring the troops home. Rather, they want to reinvent the goals and aims of the movement and extend their mission. Wisconsin Sen. Gaylord Nelson, who more or less invented Earth Day, outlined initial goals for the environmentalist movement, including cleaning the country's air and water. Once those goals were attained, notes Bailey, Nelson issued a new set of wider-ranging goals, including:
Establish the right of every citizen to plan his family.
Establishment of a federal environmental advocacy agency.
Halt pollution of our seas—moratorium on Outer Continental Shelf oil drilling.
Establish a national environmental education program encompassing pre-school through college.
Divert money from interstate highway construction to public transportation.
National land use planning so as to "halt the chaotic unplanned combination of urban sprawl and industrial expansion." This included a ban on strip mining and the filling of wetlands. In addition, he wanted to expand national parks and other reserves.
Establish a national minerals and resource policy—change the mining law of 1872.
Establish a nonpartisan national environmental political organization.
Establish a national air and water quality policy.
Well, OK, then. All of that wouldn't just extend the mission, they would entail vast new powers to regulate and even micromanage people's lives in all sorts of ways. In a characteristically brilliant and still-prescient May 1999 piece about attempts to regulate human activity, former Reason Editor Virginia Postrel talked about how environmentalism offered a rationale for all sorts of regulation of everyday life. Free-market advocates understand externalities, she wrote, but the concept was becoming infinitely elastic in an era when networks and integrated systems were becoming the dominant metaphors about economics and global interactions.
Most of us have been willing to grant the problem of externalities in such areas as air pollution and to look for ways of addressing it with minimal disruption of market processes. But it's not that hard to declare that every market action has potentially negative spillover effects. The infinitely elastic version of the externality argument turns the language of market-oriented economics against the essential nature of commerce. Indeed, we increasingly see the externality argument aimed not at producers, the traditional target, but at consumers. My choice of which movies to watch creates cultural pollution. My purchase of convenient packaging produces environmental waste. My house color or garage facade does not please the neighbors. My purchase of consumer goods leads to "luxury fever" that hurts everyone. We are all connected in the marketplace, and therefore, in this view, our actions must be tightly regulated to contain spillovers.
Read Jerry Brown's warning and then Postrel's piece. Written in a different century, it nonetheless anticipates many of the themes Brown hammers on about and offers up a better way of thinking about progress, interconnectedness, and human action and freedom. In the same issue, she also writes about "the dangers of calling everything pollution."
And if you want a quick reminder of just how much better virtually every aspect of life is today on Spaceship Earth, take a quick peek at Ronald Bailey's review of the cutting-edge statement of environmentalist alarmism, Overdevelopment Overpopulation Overshoot. Dubbing the lushly illustrated tome "the big coffee table book of doom," Bailey writes:
On the back of the book, physicist Albert Bartlett starkly asks: "Can you think of any problem in any area of human endeavor on any scale, from microscopic to global, whose long-term solution is in any demonstrable way aided, assisted, or advanced further increases in population, locally, nationally, or globally?" The folks at populationspeakout.org apparently think this is a devastating observation. But is it?
In his insightful 2013 bookThe Infinite Resource, the technologist Ramez Naam counters such thoughts with another question: "Would your life be better off if only half as many people had lived before you?" In this thought experiment, you don't get to pick which people are never born. Perhaps there would have been no Newton, Edison, or Pasteur, no Socrates, Shakespeare, or Jefferson. "Each additional idea is a gift to the future," Naam writes. "Each additional idea producer is a source of wealth for future generations." Fewer people means fewer new ideas about how to improve humanity's lot and to further decouple our endeavors from the natural world. "If we fix our economic system and invest in the human capital of the poor," Naam writes, "then we should welcome every new person born as a source of betterment for our world and all of us on it."
The goal of empowering women and girls is central to making the world a better place. It is the right thing to do regardless of the effects on future population trends, though the evidence does suggest that the results will please those worried about "overpopulation." Focusing just on the increase of human numbers is a distraction and misleads the public and policymakers from what really needs to be done for humanity and the natural world to flourish. Happy Earth Day 45!
Indeed, Earth Day 45 finds the planet and its people in surprisingly good shape. Not perfect by any stretch but like Joe Namath used to say, getting better-looking every day.
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I give you a gold star for that one, fish. I really wish I was the Nickster. He's so wise and funny. Who wouldn't want to be him, really? Perfect life he's got. Hell, I bet there's a bit of truth in the idea that you'd like to be the Nickster too! We know Rico Suave would!
I can neither agree nor disagree until you show me the minimum forum history disclosure about what/whom is "AC".
I'm definitely not Weigel and not a pwog, I find pwoggies nauseating -- despite my otherwise tolerant GI system they send me into puke-spasm. I don't know if I'm a libertarian with lower or upper case L, but I'm a fan of freedom and I hate bureaucracy. I would think those things sufficient, but maybe it's more fun for certain Hit & Run commenters to be childish in their assumptions about people's reasons for commenting, especially when it's not an acknowledged Forum Expert like Vizier Jewish, Layer of Buns or St Francis of I'mEasy. Or especially when I'm not on the masthead like Rico, the Nickster, or Con-Man Ron.
I was mocking Weigel on my own website long before he wrote for this place, you childish failure at putdown humor. But then, so were quite a few other people and probably you'd hate and be wrong about each of them too. After all, everything's a simple binary, right?
you had a website that lifted the minds of freedom-loving intellects and now you're reduced to having to proclaim in comments sections how you used to have a website that lifted the minds of freedom-loving intellects?
what happened to you, man? you used to be beautiful!
My money is on Tony. If I cared enough to bet money on it, which I don't. This guy makes an argument like that incoherent fucktard, so the less time spent engaging or commenting on him, the better.
No no, the planet is a complete weakling, it can only survive with the heroic work of bureaucrats. The idea that nature is stronger than humanity is just crazy libertarian talk.
You mean it's a false dichotomy Nick's working? Heavens to murgatroyd, what a clever chap!
You're right, absolutely so. Humans can't possibly foul the ecosystem. Can't possibly. And the way I know this isn't science that predates environmental laws/regulations, but instead, it's because Pwogs want to put the state camel's nose under Nick's tent.
We used to be able to summon the URKOBOLD. Now the best thing is a Murgatroyd. Nothing against you it's just, well. This never would have happened when Virginia Postrel was here.
3. We must stabilize population. This will be possible only if all nations recognize that it requires improved social and economic conditions, and the adoption of effective, voluntary family planning
Someone versed in the odds-making business gimme an over-under on how big the fight was to remove or include the word "voluntary"!
Yes. If you are a citizen of this planet, then you consented to the government's family planning schemes, so it was completely voluntary. It's basically a social contract.
It actually makes the water quality worse. Personal care pharmaceutical products (PCPPs) including birth control pills are being detected in surface waters into which wastewater plants discharge. Some of those products are urinated out of the body instead of being absorbed and wastewater plants aren't effective at removing them.
Chumby|4.22.15 @ 8:24PM|#
"It actually makes the water quality worse. Personal care pharmaceutical products (PCPPs) including birth control pills are being detected in surface waters into which wastewater plants discharge. Some of those products are urinated out of the body instead of being absorbed and wastewater plants aren't effective at removing them."
I'm not gonna chase the book off the shelves and quote page number, but "The Band Played On" (Randy Shilts) mentioned that the effluent from the Castro district at the time (late '70s, early '80s) was the healthiest water you could ever find! Every nostrum, OTC or scrip was being swallowed and peed in the hopes the guys didn't have to give up corn-holing!
"2. We must manage resources crucial to human welfare more effectively. We must give high priority to efficient use of energy, water, and other materials, including expansion of conservation and recycling."
Too bad he doesn't understand that free markets are the best way to accomplish this goal. Actually, now that I think about it, free markets would help accomplish all of his goals.
Of course. They will never allow him to introduce draconian measures to control the population while everyone is prosperous. Economic strife and a water crisis allows him to strip Californians of much freedom.
(full disclosure: that's in large part to top-down regulations that libertarians typically rail against).
That's largely because government has been terrible at enforcing property rights when addressing pollution.
It also has something to do with people's evolving sensibilities as they become wealthier.
If only. San Francisco is pretty bad that way. I've seen a guy walking down the sidewalk, peeling an orange, and just dropping the peels as he walked. I've seen a mother on a BART train watch as her kid threw a candy wrapper on the floor. I've seen a jerk throw a glass bottle out of the window of his car to shatter in the street. Of course, this was over many years, and the prime offenders seem to be limited to certain demographics.
Ugh, San Francisco is a cesspit in some (most) neighborhoods. That aint dog shit you're stepping over... Chicago, on the other hand, is a remarkably clean city for its size.
I bet if you called it 'KE', you could get buy-in;
A nearly infinite supply of energy that can be used to move virtually any amount of material from point A to point B, even distances the length of California, in a matter of minutes.
As long as you made 'KE' stand for something hip and not 'Kinetic Energy' or 'Keynesian Economics'... maybe if you just spelled it 'KE' and pronounced it 'key' or 'kay' like a quirky proper name of an app.
That's right, shut up those naysayers before they get started. Soon, California will have more water than any other state or nation. No more desert! Swimming pools for everyone, even the homeless! Free showers, free everything!
Can we develop some sort of connotation about the one who made wholly bad predictions, no real breakthroughs, and generally just rehashed Malthus as opposed to revolutionizing science and significantly contributing to the modern age of medicine?
Paul 'The Lesser'? Paul 'The Bomb'?
Hasn't his "work" earned him that sort of distinction?
Like the neocon militarists, greens don't seem to want to declare victory and bring the troops home. Rather, they want to reinvent the goals and aims of the movement and extend their mission.
Movements can never allow themselves to die out after their intended mission is enacted, no matter how much of a noble cause it might have started out as. For over the course of the movement, they obtain power and start to see the genius of what those they were fighting against did by using power against others, even if it might have been for something stupid like as an example, a soda ban.
"Social Democracy is not a mere political party, nor even a mere economic theory; it is a complete self-contained philosophy of the world and of human development; it is, in a word, a religion..." Bertrand Russell
The wiki page on Earth day claims that it's founder didn't know that it was on Lenin's birthday. Because collectivist control of the entire planet is so not Lenin? Yeah, he knew.
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"Priority must be given to the development of energy sources matched to third world needs--small scale and relatively easy to implement."
Does this signal Brown's vision of California's future as a third-world nation? The fact that he seemingly did his damnedest to bring this about in "Act One" of his governorship during the 1970s was perhaps the biggest reason I advised people to vote against him when he was campaigning for "Act Two" a few years ago.
Ironically the advocates of the gold standard have more in common with Jerry Brown than with Nick Gillespie. Gold obsessives go around talking about how we need to enforce arbitrary limits to the money supply by tying it to a finite amount of gold above ground. But then how can you have cornucopianism of all natural resources? What makes gold the big exception?
What in the hell does sexual equality have to do with the environment? Brown and all the other left wing loons are the reason California has been devastated by drought. They totally ignored the fact the southern part of the state is actually desert and the water needs of the primary industry in the state, agriculture. On a moronic effort to save the environment, democrats and eco-terrorists have destroyed it.
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Its symbolic for sure, but you love symbolism when its about guns. Symbolic efforts still count, and its why you are so worried about Earth Day. Good to see even you admit that we now have cleaner air and cleaner water due to movements and subsequent top down regulations. And what? You think its all solve now? Please. Ron Bailey always also quotes how there is no proof about earthquakes and fracking, and yet just today another study that suggests that fracking methods are the cause of earthquakes:
"On the basis of modelling results and the absence of historical earthquakes near Azle, brine production combined with wastewater disposal represent the most likely cause of recent seismicity near Azle."
And climate change? Its all still a hoax to most commenters here on these pages, as Ronald is now finding out.
I know you would like the green movement to just go away. But that would necessitate that free market has any will to combat degradation of the environment. And to date, that has never been evident, as proven in the path it took to make improvements in air and water.
By the way, just to keep up on climate change which Brown is very concerned about, this past March was the warmest March on record. This past 3 month period of January through March was the warmest such period on record. And the past 12 months have been the warmest 12 month period on record.
And yet more on fracking causing earthquakes today:
The US Geological Survey published a map of earthquake activity, noting the proximity to fracking efforts.
"All of the areas highlighted on the map "are located near deep fluid injection wells or other industrial activities capable of inducing earthquakes," the study said...These earthquakes are occurring at a higher rate than ever before, and pose a much greater risk and threat to people living nearby," Petersen said. The Oklahoma Geological Survey said Tuesday that the sharp rise in quakes in that state is "very unlikely to represent a naturally occurring process," since they are occurring over the same area that saw a huge jump in wastewater disposal in the last several years...The seismicity rate in 2013 was 70 times greater than the background seismicity rate observed in Oklahoma prior to 2008, state officials said."
Jackand Ace|4.23.15 @ 12:38PM|#
"And yet more on fracking causing earthquakes today:"
Those with a real interest in finding correlation find it! And asshole twits like Jack post it! How surprising!
Sorry, Jack, I'll wait much as I did when some asshole (was that you?) was crowing about how a UN body found that drinking gallons of some pesticide might be harmful.
Read your own link, asshole; five kids jumping in a stream! Real, uh...
And, to help you out, how about something even more stupid than you?:
"Watch Jimmy Fallon and Russell Crowe Sing a Goofy Protest Song in Honor of Earth Day" http://news.asiaone.com/news/s.....-earth-day
There ya go, Jack! What a, uh, well, how's the wife and kids? Is there some sort of...oh well...
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Nickster, you slay the truth like a true SJW:
Virtually everything is getting better when it comes to the state of the planet.
I bet you didn't cherry-pick anything when you researched the Q that led to such a startling conclusion. Did you, Nickster?
Amusing lad you are, Nickster. Still mining my blog for ideas?
...what?
...what?
oobins is just bitter that Nick got a cool nickname like "The Jacket" and he got...."oobins".
Isn't he a character on a saturday morning show for very small children?
I give you a gold star for that one, fish. I really wish I was the Nickster. He's so wise and funny. Who wouldn't want to be him, really? Perfect life he's got. Hell, I bet there's a bit of truth in the idea that you'd like to be the Nickster too! We know Rico Suave would!
Nahh....I look like shit in leather!
Somewhere, shit-in-leather has to be someone's fetish.
What in the fuck is an 'oobins'? Other than a total asshat.
Oobins is too intelligent for you guys. He's got a motherfucking towering intellect according to the totally unbiased source I like to call 'himself.'
It hurts someone's ego when I imitate Vizier Jewish, Layer of Buns.
Hurts so bad.
Only the Viz and St Francis of I'mEasy are allowed to be soi-dissant intelligent and overbearing about it.
Don't let me interrupt or commit any party fouls here, people. I'm obviously Dave Weigel because I dared to mock a Forum Expert or two.
It's like AC has an evil twin
I can neither agree nor disagree until you show me the minimum forum history disclosure about what/whom is "AC".
I'm definitely not Weigel and not a pwog, I find pwoggies nauseating -- despite my otherwise tolerant GI system they send me into puke-spasm. I don't know if I'm a libertarian with lower or upper case L, but I'm a fan of freedom and I hate bureaucracy. I would think those things sufficient, but maybe it's more fun for certain Hit & Run commenters to be childish in their assumptions about people's reasons for commenting, especially when it's not an acknowledged Forum Expert like Vizier Jewish, Layer of Buns or St Francis of I'mEasy. Or especially when I'm not on the masthead like Rico, the Nickster, or Con-Man Ron.
After all, everyone here is perfect. Right?
Thank you for making my point
Now that's some serious 6th grader skill right there, Scruffy!
You act like I was speaking to you.
Are you Jafar?
I'm obviously Dave Weigel
Whew, thanks for the revelation. It wasn't obvious to me. I thought you were an incoherent troll.
I was mocking Weigel on my own website long before he wrote for this place, you childish failure at putdown humor. But then, so were quite a few other people and probably you'd hate and be wrong about each of them too. After all, everything's a simple binary, right?
oobins|4.22.15 @ 6:18PM|#
"I was mocking Weigel on my own website long before he wrote for this place, you childish failure at putdown humor."
Braggart troll! How......................
boring.
you had a website that lifted the minds of freedom-loving intellects and now you're reduced to having to proclaim in comments sections how you used to have a website that lifted the minds of freedom-loving intellects?
what happened to you, man? you used to be beautiful!
I have no idea who the fuck you are. Don't care either.
Whoever it is spent the better part of a thread a week or so ago playing 'you can't guess who I am', so it seems to be quite a fetish with him or her.
My money is on Tony. If I cared enough to bet money on it, which I don't. This guy makes an argument like that incoherent fucktard, so the less time spent engaging or commenting on him, the better.
oobins|4.22.15 @ 5:15PM|#
"Nickster"
Isn't that precious? Infantile attempt at humor! Way to GO, asshole!
Nobody here is ever infantile oscillating into arrogant. How could I ever want to mock that by imitating it?
Its like Tulpa with a slght mean streak. Tulpa on meth?
Who knows or cares. Stupid with a mean streak: Asshole.
What's your fucking point you dumb cunt?
(full disclosure: that's in large part to top-down regulations that libertarians typically rail against).
Ooh...
No no, the planet is a complete weakling, it can only survive with the heroic work of bureaucrats. The idea that nature is stronger than humanity is just crazy libertarian talk.
You mean it's a false dichotomy Nick's working? Heavens to murgatroyd, what a clever chap!
You're right, absolutely so. Humans can't possibly foul the ecosystem. Can't possibly. And the way I know this isn't science that predates environmental laws/regulations, but instead, it's because Pwogs want to put the state camel's nose under Nick's tent.
Unassailable logic! Airtight reasoning! Solid rhetoric!
I HAVE BEEN SUMMONED
You are a drooling moron of the highest order. Fuck off.
We used to be able to summon the URKOBOLD. Now the best thing is a Murgatroyd. Nothing against you it's just, well. This never would have happened when Virginia Postrel was here.
Drink!
It is only 6:45am here but if you gotta drink, you gotta drink.
agribultural
Harry Tuttle or Harry Buttle?
+1 or more Personnel Carriers
Can we please get back to calling Jerry Brown "Lord of the Flies"?
Can we please get back to calling Jerry Brown "Lord of the Flies"?
Can we please get back to making fun of Jerry Brown for attempting to re-brand himself a "libertarian" during the mid 90's?
Apparently he failed to fully disable his inner statist.
Well, his aura smiles. It never frowns.
Thanks to the tireless work of bureaucrats keeping them from becoming an endangered species, squirrels and rats are abundant.
3. We must stabilize population. This will be possible only if all nations recognize that it requires improved social and economic conditions, and the adoption of effective, voluntary family planning
Someone versed in the odds-making business gimme an over-under on how big the fight was to remove or include the word "voluntary"!
My money is on that it was accidentally left in.
hah! a similar thought went through my brain when I read that
It will be voluntary....just like paying taxes....
Yes. If you are a citizen of this planet, then you consented to the government's family planning schemes, so it was completely voluntary. It's basically a social contract.
Bingo
5. We must ensure sexual equality, and guarantee women control over their own reproductive decisions.
I know this makes the air and water cleaner. Not sure how. Just know that it works.
Intersectionality, bitches
WTF? I'm trying to piece together how that has anything to do with the environment. Is it because Gaea is a chick-god?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersectionality
If you try to accomplish everything, you accomplish nothing.
I think Brown might be trying to help out Derpotologist with his list game.
Nah, it's a standard play in the oppression games rule book. See my link above.
By allowing women to abort we will have less carbon-sinning enemies of Gaia running around, I presume.
It actually makes the water quality worse. Personal care pharmaceutical products (PCPPs) including birth control pills are being detected in surface waters into which wastewater plants discharge. Some of those products are urinated out of the body instead of being absorbed and wastewater plants aren't effective at removing them.
Chumby|4.22.15 @ 8:24PM|#
"It actually makes the water quality worse. Personal care pharmaceutical products (PCPPs) including birth control pills are being detected in surface waters into which wastewater plants discharge. Some of those products are urinated out of the body instead of being absorbed and wastewater plants aren't effective at removing them."
I'm not gonna chase the book off the shelves and quote page number, but "The Band Played On" (Randy Shilts) mentioned that the effluent from the Castro district at the time (late '70s, early '80s) was the healthiest water you could ever find! Every nostrum, OTC or scrip was being swallowed and peed in the hopes the guys didn't have to give up corn-holing!
Did Randy discuss how often he visited the outfall pipe and fill up his bottles?
5. We must ensure sexual equality, and guarantee women control over their own reproductive decisions.
We must regulate the Fertility industry and make sure women make "informed choices".
"Ministry of Love"
I'm not sure what the last two have to protecting the planet...
The last two are reflex utterances, like "praise the Lord", "Hallelujah" or "Amen" that pop out spontaneously at revival tent meetings.
"2. We must manage resources crucial to human welfare more effectively. We must give high priority to efficient use of energy, water, and other materials, including expansion of conservation and recycling."
Too bad he doesn't understand that free markets are the best way to accomplish this goal. Actually, now that I think about it, free markets would help accomplish all of his goals.
He understands, he just doesn't like it.
Apes don't conduct trade in markets.
They do, it's just that they don't want to allow others to do so unabated.
BTW, moonbeam is one of the prime reasons CA hasn't developed a single, new water storage arrangement since 1975, while the population has doubled.
Easier to control a thirsty population during a man-made water shortage.
Of course. They will never allow him to introduce draconian measures to control the population while everyone is prosperous. Economic strife and a water crisis allows him to strip Californians of much freedom.
Suicidy|4.22.15 @ 9:06PM|#
"[...]Economic strife and a water crisis allows him to strip Californians of much freedom."
I am now anticipating a house-to-house census so that moonbeam's minions may properly administer water rationing.
(full disclosure: that's in large part to top-down regulations that libertarians typically rail against).
That's largely because government has been terrible at enforcing property rights when addressing pollution.
It also has something to do with people's evolving sensibilities as they become wealthier.
If only. San Francisco is pretty bad that way. I've seen a guy walking down the sidewalk, peeling an orange, and just dropping the peels as he walked. I've seen a mother on a BART train watch as her kid threw a candy wrapper on the floor. I've seen a jerk throw a glass bottle out of the window of his car to shatter in the street. Of course, this was over many years, and the prime offenders seem to be limited to certain demographics.
I despise litterbugs. The biggest litterers I ever encountered were in China.
Ditto in NYC. Although it does seem to track with the overall crime rate - imagine that.
Ugh, San Francisco is a cesspit in some (most) neighborhoods. That aint dog shit you're stepping over... Chicago, on the other hand, is a remarkably clean city for its size.
Hmm. I suspect Nick has an uncool niece.
You know, what California should do is nationalize SpaceX, send rockets to the nearest comet, then drop it on California. No more water shortage!
That's a good idea. How many high speed rail lines do we need to sacrifice for the comet?
All of them please
Well, how else will the ice be distributed? It has to be by rail. It's the only possible means.
Well, how else will the ice be distributed?
I bet if you called it 'KE', you could get buy-in;
A nearly infinite supply of energy that can be used to move virtually any amount of material from point A to point B, even distances the length of California, in a matter of minutes.
As long as you made 'KE' stand for something hip and not 'Kinetic Energy' or 'Keynesian Economics'... maybe if you just spelled it 'KE' and pronounced it 'key' or 'kay' like a quirky proper name of an app.
Narrator: Thus solving the problem for all time.
Little girl: "But--"
Narrator: "FOR ALL TIME!"
That's right, shut up those naysayers before they get started. Soon, California will have more water than any other state or nation. No more desert! Swimming pools for everyone, even the homeless! Free showers, free everything!
send rockets to the nearest comet, then drop it on California.
+1 Hot Fudge Sundae.
Yeah, there are still lots and lots of people who litter. Seems pretty obvious.
*sheds Indian tear*
That's an Italian-American tear, for the record.
Elizabeth Warren is Italian-American?
8% or so...
Must be the high cheekbones.
Am I the only one who consistently confuses this Paul Ehrlich with this one?
Can we develop some sort of connotation about the one who made wholly bad predictions, no real breakthroughs, and generally just rehashed Malthus as opposed to revolutionizing science and significantly contributing to the modern age of medicine?
Paul 'The Lesser'? Paul 'The Bomb'?
Hasn't his "work" earned him that sort of distinction?
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I have lived on a Paul-Ehrlich-Stra?e in Germany, so nope.
Collectivisation is our last and only hope. You remember what a glorious paradise East Germany was, don't you?
The acid rain was glorious
Holy fuck. Where is the video of the guys dressed in white suits chasing him around the stage with giant butterfly nets, Tex Avery -style?
Movements can never allow themselves to die out after their intended mission is enacted, no matter how much of a noble cause it might have started out as. For over the course of the movement, they obtain power and start to see the genius of what those they were fighting against did by using power against others, even if it might have been for something stupid like as an example, a soda ban.
You mean ideologies have a survival instance, too?
There's another inconvenient truth, Nick. Even Shikha got it, and it's kinda relevant to the whole Earth Day/Econut topic at hand.
We must We must We must We must We must We must
Control every aspect of your lives, from cradle to grave.
Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer!
The Progressive Theocracy marches on.
Progressive Theocracy is a jealous and intolerant theocracy.
"Social Democracy is not a mere political party, nor even a mere economic theory; it is a complete self-contained philosophy of the world and of human development; it is, in a word, a religion..." Bertrand Russell
Earth Day is a Holy Day, Lenin's birthday.
The wiki page on Earth day claims that it's founder didn't know that it was on Lenin's birthday. Because collectivist control of the entire planet is so not Lenin? Yeah, he knew.
'ZEN-FACISM' haha that's a keeper.
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"Priority must be given to the development of energy sources matched to third world needs--small scale and relatively easy to implement."
Does this signal Brown's vision of California's future as a third-world nation? The fact that he seemingly did his damnedest to bring this about in "Act One" of his governorship during the 1970s was perhaps the biggest reason I advised people to vote against him when he was campaigning for "Act Two" a few years ago.
I favor the Dill Act, but his hair-shirt act was tired even then.
Ironically the advocates of the gold standard have more in common with Jerry Brown than with Nick Gillespie. Gold obsessives go around talking about how we need to enforce arbitrary limits to the money supply by tying it to a finite amount of gold above ground. But then how can you have cornucopianism of all natural resources? What makes gold the big exception?
What in the hell does sexual equality have to do with the environment? Brown and all the other left wing loons are the reason California has been devastated by drought. They totally ignored the fact the southern part of the state is actually desert and the water needs of the primary industry in the state, agriculture. On a moronic effort to save the environment, democrats and eco-terrorists have destroyed it.
Nick is a good writer. Usually he's gay/weed all day. It's nice when he branches out a little.
I miss when Earth day was something that only bureaucrats at the EPA and hippies tried to make a big deal of.
you forgot elementary school teachers. they always got boners for it.
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Its amazing how Libertarians love mass movements when they are all about the things they care about...guns, taxes, etc.
Hate to break this to you, Nick, but Earth Day has morphed from one demonstration into a worldwide movement.
http://www.theguardian.com/environmen.....n-pictures
Its symbolic for sure, but you love symbolism when its about guns. Symbolic efforts still count, and its why you are so worried about Earth Day. Good to see even you admit that we now have cleaner air and cleaner water due to movements and subsequent top down regulations. And what? You think its all solve now? Please. Ron Bailey always also quotes how there is no proof about earthquakes and fracking, and yet just today another study that suggests that fracking methods are the cause of earthquakes:
http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2.....s7728.html
"On the basis of modelling results and the absence of historical earthquakes near Azle, brine production combined with wastewater disposal represent the most likely cause of recent seismicity near Azle."
And climate change? Its all still a hoax to most commenters here on these pages, as Ronald is now finding out.
I know you would like the green movement to just go away. But that would necessitate that free market has any will to combat degradation of the environment. And to date, that has never been evident, as proven in the path it took to make improvements in air and water.
By the way, just to keep up on climate change which Brown is very concerned about, this past March was the warmest March on record. This past 3 month period of January through March was the warmest such period on record. And the past 12 months have been the warmest 12 month period on record.
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/
Not one GOP candidate even recognizes there is a problem, no less your readers.
Yeah, no need for a green movement.
Jackand Ace|4.23.15 @ 11:44AM|#
"Not one GOP candidate even recognizes there is a problem, no less your readers."
Quite possibly since it's yet to be shown to BE a problem.
Jackand Ace|4.23.15 @ 11:35AM|#
"Hate to break this to you, Nick, but Earth Day has morphed from one demonstration into a worldwide movement."
Hate to break it to you, twit, but it's a 'worldwide movement' of, oh, 10 idjits like you.
And yet more on fracking causing earthquakes today:
The US Geological Survey published a map of earthquake activity, noting the proximity to fracking efforts.
"All of the areas highlighted on the map "are located near deep fluid injection wells or other industrial activities capable of inducing earthquakes," the study said...These earthquakes are occurring at a higher rate than ever before, and pose a much greater risk and threat to people living nearby," Petersen said. The Oklahoma Geological Survey said Tuesday that the sharp rise in quakes in that state is "very unlikely to represent a naturally occurring process," since they are occurring over the same area that saw a huge jump in wastewater disposal in the last several years...The seismicity rate in 2013 was 70 times greater than the background seismicity rate observed in Oklahoma prior to 2008, state officials said."
http://www.latimes.com/visuals.....story.html
Yeah, all the problems have been solved...no need to worry anymore.
Jackand Ace|4.23.15 @ 12:38PM|#
"And yet more on fracking causing earthquakes today:"
Those with a real interest in finding correlation find it! And asshole twits like Jack post it! How surprising!
Sorry, Jack, I'll wait much as I did when some asshole (was that you?) was crowing about how a UN body found that drinking gallons of some pesticide might be harmful.
Oh, and:
Jackand Ace|4.23.15 @ 11:35AM|#
"Hate to break this to you, Nick, but Earth Day has morphed from one demonstration into a worldwide movement.
http://www.theguardian.com/environmen.....n-pictures"
Read your own link, asshole; five kids jumping in a stream! Real, uh...
And, to help you out, how about something even more stupid than you?:
"Watch Jimmy Fallon and Russell Crowe Sing a Goofy Protest Song in Honor of Earth Day"
http://news.asiaone.com/news/s.....-earth-day
There ya go, Jack! What a, uh, well, how's the wife and kids? Is there some sort of...oh well...
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