Tonight on The Independents: Eric Cantor Shocker, Woe in Afghanistan & Iraq, David Boaz on Sentencing Reform, Snowden Plea-Float, Police Militarization, Meet Libertarian 'Spoiler' Sean Haugh, Teacher Tenure Ruling, Plus After-Show*

What the hell, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) just got primaried? On tonight's episode of The Independents (Fox Business Network, 9 p.m. ET, 6 p.m. PT, repeats three hours later), the great Yahoo News political reporter Chris Moody will come on to make sense out of what few people were predicting until, like, an hour ago. Was it all about "amnesty"? Was it also about crony capitalism, Fannie & Freddie, and TARP? We shall discuss.

The news in places where U.S. soldiers long fought has been terrible today, so radio host and military veteran Bryan Suits will be on to discuss. Cato Executive Vice President David Boaz will analyze Attorney General Eric Holder's recent moves in the direction of sentencing reform for non-violent drug offenders. Bill Gertz is reporting that federal prosecutors are in secret talks with NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden over a possible plea deal, so we'll talk about that with Party Panelists Ellis Henican (Newsday columnist) and comedian Jimmy Failla.

Have you seen the year's best campaign commercial?

We'll talk to the star, North Carolina LP Senate nominee Sean Haugh, one of many Libertarians making a surprisingly strong showing in the South this year. And I may talk about the landmark (and sure-to-be-contested) tenure-shredding court decision in California today.

* Aftershow begins on foxbusiness.com/independents should begin a tad after 10; sorry about last night's tech debacle. Follow The Independents on Facebook at facebook.com/IndependentsFBN, follow on Twitter @ independentsFBN, tweet during the show & we'll use the best of 'em. Click on this page for more video of past segments.

Comments

[Fist of Etiquette]

I told everyone PM Links was a fad, way back when it was Evening Links and Cavanaugh had the nerve to be posting them.

Vindication.

Boaz constrictor in the house. And I hope Jimmy Failla does one of his patented slow jam of the news with Foster and Welch.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Hello.

Maybe Reason should apply for a subsidy to help kill the *&&%%$$ squirrels that keep hijacking comments.

[Agammamon]

If they've been around for so long that their start was 'way back when' then they weren't a fad.

[Fist of Etiquette]

When held up against the entire span of human history, does the run of PM Links count as anything but insignificant? I think not.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

What the hell, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) just got primaried?

Washingtonium delenda est.

[Hyperion]

Things like this make me smile, laugh, hell this is some real shitz and giggles. Killed by the dead Tea Party, lmao!

Cantor defeated by ghosts

This soooooo needs to happy to Lindsey Graham. IT.HAS.TO!

[Cytotoxic]

Graham is invincible.

[Hyperion]

So was Cantor. Graham is worse than most Democrats.

[Cytotoxic]

Graham is TRULY invincible. Despair and lose all hope ye who challenge him. At least he's sort-of sane on immigration.

[Acosmist]

So he wants to enforce the law, sort of?

[Cytotoxic]

He wants to improve it. Fuck the law.

[Some call me Tim?]

This^^

I don't understand this weird obsession to enforce immoral laws.

I support the flouting of all immoral laws, from drug laws to immigration.

[Virginian]

So was Cantor

I live in the 7th, so this is fucking shocking for me. The establitards are already whining that the Democrats voted for Brat. Sore losers ala the horse owner from the Belmont.

Things got real interesting all of a sudden.

Fun fact: the 7th District Congressional seat will be either a Republican economics professor or a Democrat sociology professor, both of whom teach at Randolph Macon College. No points for guessing where the debate will be.

[Raven Nation]

The establitards are already whining that the Democrats voted for Brat.

Interesting, I heard today that the Cantor campaign had been openly courting Dems to vote for him. Did you see any of that?

[Virginian]

The main thing I saw as Brat gained steam was the slur that Brat is a "liberal college professor" who "worked for Tim Kaine". I'd argue that if any Dems voted for Brat, is was because of Cantor's own attack ads.

[Sticky Fingaz]

You're south of the river, right Virginian? I used to live in Henrico.

[PBR Streetgang]

Until very recently I lived in the 7th also (south of the Rivah) and this is absolutely stunning to me. Hanover and Chesterfield killed Cantor. wow.

[Fluffy]

If you guys will raise $200 grand I will move to South Carolina and primary him my fucking self if no one else will.

[Agammamon]

Well, I got tree-fity.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Aftershow begins on foxbusiness.com/independents should begin a tad after 10; sorry about last night's tech debacle.

YEAH NO SHIT.

[Winston]

So Nick Gillespie thinks we are still on the verge of a libertarian era? Considering how controversial any reduction of spending growth is and how hard it is to actually deregulate and cut a government program I have my doubts.

[Max Power]

That commercial is amazing. Also, looks like he's got a couple of Bell's Two Hearted on the bar. That might be my favorite beer.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

It's almost like he didn't rehearse at all. Almost.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Where you been? How did it go with the commie finally?

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

I had a ridiculous amount of work last week. No beer, no internet.

What commie are we talking about?

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Someone attached to your file regarding health care?

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Oh, I straightened that out last week. They had a manager at the appointment and they were scared shitless.

It was every bit as nefarious as I suspected it was.

NAKED VOTE BUYING SCHEME.

As if CA doesn't already vote blue enough...

[Rufus J. Firefly]

One day I'd love to know about the details.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

I had a very long reply that got eaten by the squirrels.

[jesse.in.mb]

Will they never be sated!?

[Rufus J. Firefly]

I copy my comments here.

My trust in Reason runs that low at the moment.

[Max Power]

That's one of the reasons I like it. It's like he hates politics so much that it's too much work to rehearse making a campaign commercial, or do it without drinking.

Did you ever think of a way to stop your washer/drier from rattling your house apart? You could look at this stuff to put underneath. It's for speaker isolation, but may work for washers.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

I'm going to put in a false floor and wall with 3/4" MDF and offsetting joists/studs before I get the new machine. Probably sometime next month, when I'm less busy.

My brother agreed to help me. Somehow, he decided it was in his best interest to be on my good side.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Bill Gertz is reporting that federal prosecutors are in secret talks with NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden over a possible plea deal

How about a Roman triumph down Pennsylvania Avenue with the dazed prisoners from the NSA, including Clapper and Alexander, walking in chains before him on their way to be arraigned?

[Fluffy]

"Arraigned".

[croaker]

Plea deal? False flag. Snowden knows better than to trust anything coming from the mouth of a government hack.

[Mike M.]

It's not a "false flag", it's just a lie.

False flag isn't a generic synonym for lie; it has a much more specific meaning than that.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

INDEPENDENTS ASSEMBLE!

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsWgG5v7A3A

[Dances-with-Trolls]

Thanks for the mindworm, Serious.

[Derpetologist]

Believe it or not, George isn't at home...

[BSubversive.com]

YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME!!!

[Winston]

So why isn't the LP making ground in the Blue States? Or the Big Cities?

[GILMORE]

the LP doesn't hand out money

[Winston]

Well that's going to make defeating the Dems once the GOP is finished/hijacked rather difficult won't it?

[Dances-with-Trolls]

Was it all about "amnesty?"

I have a feeling that this is the thing. It's an issue that the Red base seems to get really fired up about whenever the topic comes up while I'm browsing right-wing web sites.

[Cytotoxic]

They're totally insane on this issue, or at least an extremely paranoid neurotic sub-section is.

[John]

Your tears and Lamentations are almost as sweet as Canto's

[Cytotoxic]

No tears John that's just your delusion complex.

[Virginian]

They're totally insane on this issue

Look everyone, it's Gordon Brown.

[Fluffy]

I can't believe Snowden would really be stupid enough to submit himself to the US criminal "justice" system under Obama.

Obama is on record as saying that if he doesn't like the verdict of a national security case, he'll just ignore it.

No deal with any representative of the Obama DOJ or Obama intelligence establishment would be worth the paper it was written on.

I imagine Russia is an unpleasant place to live - but it can't be THAT unpleasant.

[Dances-with-Trolls]

Dude, for real. If I were him I'd never set foot anywhere the US government could get to me. Ever.

[Winston]

You Know Who Else said Russia can't be that unpleasant?

[Herpes Trismegistus]

Paul McCartney?

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Napoleon?

[Derpetologist]

Walter Duranty?

[Winston]

+1 Pulitzer

[Lady Bertrum]

Lee Harvey Oswald?

[Fist of Etiquette]

WELL I GUESS YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE DRIVE TO MAN UP.

[CatoTheElder]

Seriously, even the Obama foreign policy team is smart enough to understand that a drone strike in Russian territory might cause blowback. But His Highness can do whatever he wants in the borders of His Empire, with full confidence that His sycophants in the media will sing His praises.

[GILMORE]

"sorry about last night's tech debacle"

he forgets to note that it was screw-up #2

Which is what i expected.

Eric Cantor thought #1 = nice suit

Eric Cantor thought #2 = it is odd how i get a small, warm feeling of satisfaction whenever a politician loses their job. I don't care who it is, or why, or who the new person coming in is, or how incompetent or awful they're going to be - its all just about enjoying the fall from grace and knowing that they've been *rejected* by voters and send a chill of fear through the bones of *every single incumbent* = "Dear god, these people... they might come for ME next?!"

I like that

[Winston]

Plea Deal? Does Holder even have to follow it?

[Trials and Trippelations]

Really Haugh? Two Hearted Ale? Where is your support for local brews?

[Derpetologist]

Hillary got booed at a concert a few years back. The booing was memory-holed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y_CAVvpdjI

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Interesting.

Fast forward to 1:02.

[Hyperion]

This is actually the best part about cantor losing, although I fail to see anything bad about it:

His loss to Dave Brat, a political novice with little money marks a huge victory for the tea party movement, which supported Cantor just a few years ago.

[Duke]

Wait. Everyone knows the Tea Party is controlled by billionaires like the Koch brothers so they must have secretly been funding his campaign because of those campaign laws or something. You know, Citizens United and all that shit.

[Virginian]

huge victory for the tea party movement, which supported Cantor just a few years ago.

This is the important bit. The Tea Party, if they are to affect the kind of sway that the netroots had in the Democratic Party from 06 to 10, must collect the heads of traitors and display them to the waverers. The message must go out: If you vote our way, you might lose in the general. But if you don't, you'll be sitting at home in November watching someone else.

The 7th District, btw, is a very safe GOP seat. No way in hell Brat loses the general. So the establishment cunts don't even have that to fall back on. Cantor is in many ways the House equivalent of Hatch or Graham in the Senate. There's no reason that VA7 can't have a harcore conservative Congressman.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

The 7th District, btw, is a very safe GOP seat. No way in hell Brat loses the general.

What if Cantor runs as a write-in? He has the money and name recognition and can claim that Democrats sabotaged him by voting for Brat.

[Virginian]

Possible. I'd love to see if he has the arrogance to do that. It would be a giant fuck you to the Tea Party, essentially saying that your votes don't really count, you ignorant peasants.

Besides, any Dem crossover voters are Cantor's own fucking fault. He painted Brat as a "liberal college professor" who "worked for Tim Kaine". If I was a moronic prog, that's what would have gotten me to play spoiler.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Some Salon derp:

Jamie Commie 5 hours ago
There were mass movements aiming at genuinely democratic and genuinely socialist reforms, during the 50s-60s in Eastern Europe and during the 80s inside the Soviet Union itself. I wouldn't doubt if similar sentiments were also being expressed at Tiannamen Square in 1989. But this was not the message broadcast to the Western "free world". All we heard about was how much people hated everything about 'communism'.

They say hindsight is 20/20. From the perspective if 2014, perhaps we shouldn't have tossed out the baby along with the bathwater! Perhaps the wholesale rejection of the core essential ideals of communism has had wider negative unanticipated consequences plaguing us today more than ever 25 years after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

This being found in a Salon review of an upcoming HBO miniseries about the Prague Spring.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Sex to save the friendship!

[Duke]

Perhaps the wholesale rejection of the core essential ideals of communism has had wider negative unanticipated consequences plaguing us today more than ever 25 years after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

If only we could have separated the ideals of a big murdering government that owned everything and applied just those ideals to a big murdering government that owned everything...

[John]

Those poor socialists. They murder a few hundred million people and create dozens of nightmare police stares and everyone throws out their entire ideology.

[Virginian]

I wouldn't doubt if similar sentiments were also being expressed at Tiannamen Square in 1989

True. The Chinese protesters were very careful to clearly state they wanted reform, not revolution. It's what let them go almost two months before being massacred.

There's only one way to argue with tyrants: with them on their backs, with your foot on their throats.

[Suthenboy]

You only hear this shit from smug douchebags that have never lived under communism. People who have say without hesitation that those douchbags are completely full of shit and have no idea what they are talking about.

[Snark Plissken]

I suppose all these Czechs I know who say they hated communism are just lying.

[Pathogen]

Obviously! They're all Koch brother stooges..

[Fist of Etiquette]

Prediction: Dreamhoops.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Whoa, no cold open.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

No Party, No Problem, No Kennedy Cold Open

[Fist of Etiquette]

Moody takes cabs? Pretty tony.

[Trials and Trippelations]

Anyone else catch the near Freduian slip "House of Repressiveness"?

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Wow, and here I thought money was magic and could literally buy an election.

[Fist of Etiquette]

THIS JUST COST THE GOP THE HOUSE. You read it here first.

[Winston]

Is that you Paul Begala/David Brooks?

[John]

A guy only political junk kids had ever heard of loses a primary in a blood red district and that means the Republicans will lose the House? Yeah that makes sense.

[Fist of Etiquette]

My only claim is that you read that first here.

[Fist of Etiquette]

"For people who do watch this show it's very exciting-"

BY COMPARISON.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Did the commenting meltdown today scare away our regulars? This thread is usually much more livelier. Step it up, people!

[SweatingGin]

It didn't get posted at 2pm?

[Fist of Etiquette]

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED? ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?

[Duke]

How dare you show your back to me! Slave, you will remove your helmet and tell me your name.

[jesse.in.mb]

"Foot action"?

Kinky!

[Fist of Etiquette]

Like another ginger on television, Welch just said, "You know nothing, Chris Moody."

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Too soon man, too soon.

That episode sucked.

[Herpes Trismegistus]

Yeah it did. John Snow's mouth bounces off of a fucking anvil and he doesn't lose one fucking tooth but the Red Viper of Dorne get's an excruciatingly accurate head popping two days after I get nasal polyp surgery. Fuuuck.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

I haz a Thrones sad.

[Winston]

So didn't Rothbard claim that the USSR had a libertarian foreign policy? So I'm guessing he thought Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan had libertarian foreign policies as well.

[Virginian]

*yawn*

[Max Power]

Delaware County PA just got a bearcat.

[Trials and Trippelations]

Did that pass the emissions test?

[Max Power]

Emissions tests are for the little people.

[Winston]

Well killing people does reduce their carbon footprint.

[Bobarian]

Not if you're setting their children on fire.

[SusanM]

Just what we need in Delco. It's just swarming with terrorists and all.

[WDATPDIM?!]

It's a war zone out there, people!

[Agammamon]

"We now have the ability to protect our police officers as they approach homes, businesses and schools while taking direct fire,"

What the hell are you guys doing up in Delaware?

[Bobarian]

If it's like Delaware state, people just fire their shotguns through the door.

[Winston]

Eric Cantor should just change his name to Eddie Cantor. Then we could have Gillespie write some unfunny hipster tripe about how Eddie Cantor was unfunny and how Anchorman 2 is the best comedy ever.

[Calidissident]

Did Gillespie fuck your wife or something? You have an odd fixation on the guy

[Derpetologist]

A suggestion for a 2016 campaign ad

Scene: A darkened room. The camera focuses on a digital clock readin 3:00 AM. It pans to a red phone which begins to ring. A wrinkled hand picks up the handset. Off screen, a female voice mumbles "what difference at this point does it make?" before the hand slams the handset down. Snoring for a few seconds which continues during the fade to black.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Maybe cut back and forth between the silent room with the hand and the blackness with the sound of gunfire, explosions, and screams.

She'll never be president. Never. The Dem field will probably have at least one true progressive that will not hesitate to bring up Benghazi along with her other baggage.

[WDATPDIM?!]

It should be like that scene in Nothing But Trouble where Chevy Chase sees Dan Aykroyd (Judge Valkenheiser) removing all his facial prostheses before going to bed.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Maybe there's something to the notion that some places need hard dictators to govern the people.

[Fist of Etiquette]

LOADED QUESTION.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

IIRC, the MISSION ACCOMPLISHED banner was the work of the USS Abraham Lincoln and was not planned by the Bush administration.

It referred to the ship specifically completing its mission.

[GILMORE]

random note =

I've spent the last 2 weeks catching up on a whole bunch of 'superhero/action/blockbuster' type movies for the hell of it, and most have disappointed pretty heavily (with Avengers being a good one, the Wolverine being ~meh Ok, and most surprisingly - the Dark Knight *sucking balls*...the rest being just below-average and not worth finishing)

...but the greatest surprise so far? This thing "Pacific Rim" which didn't even appeal to me at all turns out to be *actually really well done* and is a genuinely good movie. Not even done yet, but 1/2 way though i'm astounded how tight it is, great acting, cinematography, and very stupid-filler-free for a movie that's basically "giant robots fighting godzilla-clones" and almost necessitates everything 'not robot fighting' being brain-drainingly stupid.

next up are the last 2 "new" star trek jobbies. Now i will perhaps understand 1/3 of the dork references here.

[Trials and Trippelations]

I thought the Avengers was boring

[Winston]

I preferred the Ian Hendry episodes.

[Fist of Etiquette]

YOU SIR ARE AN IDIOT.

[Winston]

BRING BACK FIREFLY!

[Trials and Trippelations]

Someone posted an Honest trailer for Superman a week or so ago. The Avengers version sums up my feelings

[GILMORE]

You weren't paying any attention to the dialogue. It had the snappiest repartee of any action movie in years. Joss Whedon FTW. A+

[Derpetologist]

I never understood what the point was of making the helicarrier invisible. Seems like those engines would have made enough noise to alert anyone from a dozen miles away.

And thus we see why engineers do no write comic book movies.

[Agammamon]

That and the supersonic air column needed to hold the thing up.

'Course the real question is 'why does an *intelligence/spy* agency need with a super-powerful capital warship?'

Not exactly 'cover ops' equipment there.

[Bobarian]

This question is answered in CA:TWS.

[jesse.in.mb]

Pacific Rim was visually fun and that was about all it was.

That said, I'll watch anything with Idris Elba in it.

[Winston]

Including Prometheus?

[jesse.in.mb]

Sadly, yes.

[Winston]

Way to non-conform to internet groupthink!

[GILMORE]

He *is* good.

He can be filmed doing nothing, and its interesting. He has that kind of screen 'weight' where he carries 'potence'. He doesn't have to do much to do a lot.

(it reminds me of Kurosawas comment about Mifune = "he does in 2 seconds what takes other actors 10 seconds")

[jesse.in.mb]

The first season of Luther was excellent and then had bright spots in the rest of the show (although never managed to work at the first season level again).

He seems to pick some awful roles though.

[Fist of Etiquette]

You're halfway through Pacific Rim? As in, you're watching it right now?

[GILMORE]

Paused it to watch TI

[Fist of Etiquette]

SPOILER ALERT: Welch and Foster are drift compatible and Kennedy is a Category 5 Kaiju.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Pacific Rim" which didn't even appeal to me at all turns out to be *actually really well done*

You are dead to me.

[GILMORE]

For the record - i'm not done with it.

But it is *supremely* well made. there's no arguing about that. Del Toro is clearly a visual stylist of high order.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Don't let him sway you. He's an idiot.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Et tu, Fiste?

*facepalm*

[Bobarian]

I thought the first half of the movie and small parts of the latter half were great, but found the ending to be poorly done.

[kibby]

Is it, though? I don't know how they managed to make a movie about giant robots & monsters SO BORING!

[Fist of Etiquette]

If you didn't understand it, just say so.

[kibby]

I hate you. & I hated all those characters about whom I was evidently supposed to feel deep, stirring emotions.

[MJGreen]

Occasionally I'll remember the really stupid attempts at manufacturing conflict (did we need that fuckin Aussie kid acting all pissy?) or creating pathos, and conclude the movie had a lot of problems. But then I remember the Hong Kong sequence and it's one of my favorite action movies ever.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Get him a Miley Cyrus disc. That will cure him of that want to re-assimilate through music.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

My 72 hour beef short ribs
Seared and sealed, should be ready for dinner on Friday.

[jesse.in.mb]

Friday, you say...

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

I'll be sampling every night, no extras. (Unless you want brocolini, I'll have plenty of that)

[Trials and Trippelations]

That's my birthday! Gee thanks Playa!

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

I'll give you my recipe for 48 hour short ribs, and you can get started tomorrow.

[GILMORE]

The Independents Attire Review, 10 June 2014

Burn the Witch!-Edition

- Kennedy: Channels Jackie O'; I honestly think I can smell Chanel #5 right now. She needs a really nice white vintage handbag to go with this & maybe some old Gucci shades. This is a classy setup that works extremely well for Kennedy, and provides a nice foil to her eye-blinding color-shades. We vote: Garden Party!

- Matt: If I failed to call for the death of the Black Suit in the last few shows, it was because of the unexpected pleasure and surprise of Matt introducing 'normal shirts' into the lineup. Now that we've gone back to the Ubiquitous Pink Shirt, I again immediately recognize the crappy cut & blocky shoulders, and desperately hope that there is a catastrophic dry-cleaning accident that erases its existence from the universe forever.

- Kmele: Our prior comment on Kmele doing the Plaid Shirt thing with his sport coats (see last week): need to keep colors suble, and not wear too-formal a jacket. Here I think both lines are crossed (*just barely) and the result, while not strictly 'garish', is that we fail to achieve the unity-of-look that Kmele normally achieves so effortlessly. We think last night's King Pimp should maybe consider a near-term come back. That's a dude we'd roll with.

Spasibo

[Fluffy]

Kennedy is adorable.

That is all.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Brat is Russian for brother. Make of that what you will.

[grrizzly]

Weird. It's time to notice that Russian associations don't always come to me.

[Derpetologist]

For best effect, I recommend the Imperial March while viewing this image:

http://www.newstalkflorida.com.....n_2013.jpg

[Derpetologist]

For best effect, I recommend the Imperial March while viewing this image:

http://www.newstalkflorida.com.....n_2013.jpg

[Duke]

The progs are having a conniption fit over a non-Team guy being elected to office. Their comments are something to behold -- hateful, ignorant and contradictory to the very democratic, small-money political ideals they espouse.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....ctab=all_&

[Winston]

So how's the split between rejoicing at the RethugliKKKans giving up a safe seat and the dangerous insane libertarian turn the GOP are making?

[Virginian]

So how's the split between rejoicing at the RethugliKKKans giving up a safe seat

lol they didn't. The Dem candidate is actually a professor at the same college Brat is a professor at. Watch the Dems do everything they can to get their academic resign so they can put a real pol in and try to nab the seat.

Va7 is deeply red.

[Winston]

So it the "GOP's dangerous insane radical libertarian turn" then?

[Virginian]

Brat's not a libertarian. He's a conservative. He'll be much better on fiscal issues and not be such a crony insider type, but he's no libertarian, especially on immigration.

[Winston]

I'm referring to the proggies' attitude, not reality. You know the guys who think Eric Cantor is a radical libertarian?

[Virginian]

They think any of their political enemies is whatever is the most convenient boogeyman for them to be at that moment. It's all bullshit.

[Duke]

WashPoo commenters are saying that Brat is a racist. I don't live in VA, but based on the progs' use of that label on those they oppose, I'm somewhat persuaded to believe that perhaps Brat is not actually a racist?

[Virginian]

WashPoo commenters are saying that Brat is a racist.

Well according to half of libertarians opposing open borders makes you a racist. That's probably their logic. Brat is very critical of amnesty.

[Duke]

dave1102
This comment has it all:

The Republican party just lost their only Jewish member of congress. One more example of the lack of inclusion of the party of the white Christian male dominated party. Inclusiveness? If the Republicans are not welcoming to Latinos, blacks, Asians, Muslims, Jews, the LGBT community, single women, people who believe in science and as shown from this election, immigrants, their appeal is to an ever increasing minority.

[Winston]

So Reason is Racist. I knew it.

[Irish]

The Republican party just lost their only Jewish member of congress. One more example of the lack of inclusion of the party of the white Christian male dominated party.

I'm confused, did Eric Cantor just convert to Judaism? Or did all those Republicans voting for him the last ten years just not notice he was one of the Chosen People until this election cycle?

[Dances-with-Trolls]

I'm confused

I'll do my best to progsplain it from what I've learned by observing them in the wild. See while Eric Cantor was a Republican in good standing he was not actually Jewish according to the Orthodox Progressive Tradition. He was actually, during this time, a self-hating Rethuglikkkan who would have most definitely supported Hitler. However now that he has been defeated by the Teathuglican branch of the republican party he becomes, ex post facto, again a Jew in good standing but only for the single purpose of defaming his opponents.

[Fluffy]

Apparently Dickinson's campaign strategy this week has been repeatedly tweeting Fuck, Marry, Kill queries about major GOP figures.

It's amateur hour on all sides.

[John]

He only won because of democrat crossover votes. Lol.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Hmm, didn't that happen to Joe Lieberman? He lost his primary and ended up running and winning as an independent?

[Fist of Etiquette]

The Democrats tossed him aside.

[SweatingGin]

Also, Senator from Alaska lost her primary (tea party challenger), and did a write-in campaign and won the general.

[Bobarian]

Yeah, I went to school with the guy who won that primary. The Republican machine kicked in hard on that one.

[Winston]

They should have replaced Kennedy with Carson Daly since he Speaks for Teh Yutes and is more relevant and shit and I have actually heard of him.

[GILMORE]

Not a good TV-tie for Boaz

[kibby]

Okay, what did I miss?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Pacific Rim and Marvel's The Avengers are great movies.

[kibby]

No.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Non-sequitur: I enjoy observing American politics.

[Winston]

This show is so thin sarcasmic would fuck it.

[Fluffy]

The Hill was kind enough to remind me that Cantor was the guy who put together the bill that gutted the Flood Insurance program reform.

Fuck you Eric. Enjoy retirement.

[John]

He was also one of the guys who gutted the NSA reform bill.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Safe word is EEEEEK EEEEEEK.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Was she of legal age? Because Peter could have been arrested for taking a minor over state line for immoral porpoises.

[kibby]

STOP IT RIGHT NOW.

[jesse.in.mb]

I'm ashamed I laughed.

[kibby]

Please don't encourage him. It just increases my suffering so much more....

[Trials and Trippelations]

In that case, I will admit to laughing as well.

[kibby]

Why do you all hate me??

[Trials and Trippelations]

I don't. I am just a terrible person.

[kibby]

We're all terrible people, but you're taking it to a new level.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

It's not their fault, I'd still make the puns even if they hated them.

[kibby]

Yeah it's part of your irritating charm.

[SweatingGin]

It's not their fault, I'd still make the puns even if because they hated them.

[Fist of Etiquette]

She didn't mind being pod at. In fact, she was fin with it. And a third dolphin pun.

[Trials and Trippelations]

Serious was better.

[Fist of Etiquette]

YOU SIR ARE AN IDIOT.

[Trials and Trippelations]

Twice in one night. I am on a roll.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

She was the Eva Braun to his Adolfphin.

[jesse.in.mb]

That was significantly less good, but I still laughed.

[Trials and Trippelations]

I'm torn. This was not as good as your first, but if I say it was better then that will annoy kibby, and increase my level of terribleness.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

No, it could use some work. And since she did not commit suicide with him Adolphin Flip-ter, she really isn't Eva.

In any case, I'm hoping any dolphin accused of sex crimes--or any crime, for that matter--enjoys his right to habeous porpoise.

[Trials and Trippelations]

Nice

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Okay, that should cover it...for all intents an porpoises.

[SweatingGin]

Kennedy needed to end the dolphin fucker story with "and now you know... the rest of the story"

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Is Kennedy trying to convey to viewers she's wild in the sack?

[SweatingGin]

I believe she was suggesting more... in the pool.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Isn't she always?

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Awkward silence where Kennedy expected feedback.

[Winston]

When did Matt Welch escape from Muppet's Most Wanted?

[Fist of Etiquette]

"...and that's just in my own house!"

[GILMORE]

Kmele wins the Show-Award tonight for the sincerity with which he said "Prehensile Penises".

[jesse.in.mb]

Welch did a good job of keeping the horror out of his voice when he asked follow up questions about it gripping things.

[GILMORE]

It was a line as memorable as the non-sequitur of "Flamingos are mean! They bite" in Band of Brothers.

I will never forget that Kmele told the world that you can be *grabbed* by a dolphins dick. Because that's information people are gonna need.

[kibby]

Really? It's hot in Africa?

[SweatingGin]

I will never forget that Kmele told the world that you can be *grabbed* by a dolphins dick. Because that's information people are gonna need.

Worthy of making the INDEPENDENTS ASSEMBLE a link to the youtube video of it.

Someone get it on youtube, by the way.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

President Obama: The first face palm President.

[Winston]

Who's the first lip balm president?

[Bobarian]

given the likelihood that Clinton had Herpes?

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Are the Spurs toying with me...again?

[GILMORE]

The guy's tripping balls

[GILMORE]

Oh shit, its Ellis the superdouchebag again

[Fist of Etiquette]

Is this the latest in an episode that the party panel shows up?

[GILMORE]

Ellis would last 5 seconds around me before i punched him in the neck.

I can't stand people who over-emphasise their words like that.

[Fist of Etiquette]

I don't know that there are that many xenophobe voters to get Cantor tossed.

[Bobarian]

So... the TP is not dead?

[Fist of Etiquette]

I was supposed to be genuflecting before pulling the lever?

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Problems on the Canadian border?

Why the...

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Not unprecedented

[Francisco d'Anconia]

That scene was filmed at the Prewett Creek bridge, on the Missouri River in MT. Just up the road a piece.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

I always liked that scene in particular because of the scenic look.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

I stayed in the Prewett Creek Campground while waiting for my rental to be ready.

[Bobarian]

No, that's the message that the NY Times and WaPo will send, though.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

The Virginia UKIP triumphs!

[Derpetologist]

I laughed: http://www.rightviral.com/wp-c.....large.jpeg

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Unless she got someone else to fork the cash over to pay for it.

[Derpetologist]

She should have spent it on birth control then. Problem solved.

[Derpetologist]

She should have spent it on birth control then. Problem solved.

[Kaptious Kristen]

I sure do love me some political schadenfreude. I shall sleep with a smile on my face tonight.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

[joke involving the term "four hours" deleted]

[Winston]

You Know Who Else thought of German words after the defeat of his opponents?

[Kaptious Kristen]

JFK?

[Bobarian]

I am a jelly doughnut?

[Rufus J. Firefly]

What is wrong with President Clueless? I heard him say about the recent shooting that it 'doesn't happen in any other civilized country?'

Is he that oblivious and/or ignorant? Who is writinm for him exactly anyway?

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0777958.html

Damn, the Polytechnique massacre at the Univ. of Mtl and Dawson College shooting in Montreal were pretty bad. And then there was Dumberlane which was every bit as shocking as Sandy Hook.

[Winston]

Didn't Dumberlane lead to some gun control laws?

Obviously he's trying to say that America's gun culture is anomalous and therefore bad so we need gun control.

And You Know Who Else said the USA is too violent?

And You Know Who Else likes to attack American Exceptionalism and use an appeal to popularity with regards to Europe?

[Rufus J. Firefly]

I know he was trying to capitalize on that but shit, he's not even trying anymore.

To say that is just plain declasse.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

If I remember correctly, that's exactly what happened after Dumberlane. The same rhetoric as Sandy Hook.

[jesse.in.mb]

I'm confused by this safety razor commercial. The guy is holding the razor as one does for a disposable razor, but that would lead to slicing your face open.

[Bobarian]

Suicidal?

[Derpetologist]

She didn't want to go all the way with the dolphin, so she just gave him a blow hole job. Which was fine- she had no hang-ups about coral sex.

/work with me people

[kibby]

...Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

But she refused to go bass to mouth.

[Derpetologist]

A cop caught them in the act. He gave them a cetacean for lewd conduct.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Vice laws like that are a load of pollocks.

[Derpetologist]

She did it for the halibut. He couldn't kelp himself.

[Warrren]

Kip Addotta want's some royalties.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Martin Landau looks pretty good for his age.

[SweatingGin]

Someone pointed out above he's drinking a two-hearted (also a favorite of mine).

He's also drinking it out of a Rothbard glass. Looks like a Mises one behind him (he's two-fisting).

[SweatingGin]

Hayek, actually.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

I was about to call you Bo, but then I realized that you corrected yourself.

[SweatingGin]

Ouch!

[Winston]

You Know Who Else rooted for the defeat of a Jewish politician?

[Big Chief]

Netanyahu?

[GILMORE]

That's not a good TV-tie for Shean

Also, teeth.

[SweatingGin]

To get the LP nomination, you have to turn in your driver's license, right? Or not have had one previously?

[Big Chief]

Did we get an explanation or apology for the lack of PM links today?

[GILMORE]

No, they only do that when they've fucked up something TWICE

like the aftershow.

[Bobarian]

FYTY is the usual explanation we get for anything, so why do you expect more?

[GILMORE]

Kennedy = awkward at goodbyes.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Former A's pitcher Bob Welch died.

[Fluffy]

So do Rand Paul and Ted Cruz get in a car accident flying down 95 from DC to try to be the first to show up to campaign with this guy?

[kibby]

Aw, Matt, you're so hopeful sounding.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Is this Where It's Matt? Because I didn't see the branding.

[Trials and Trippelations]

Mattsplaining

[kibby]

Alright, that got a laugh out of me.

[Trials and Trippelations]

Wow! That was generous. I was expecting another "YOU SIR ARE AN IDIOT." from Fist

[GILMORE]

quick color-check

Is matt's shirt *white*? or pink?

I swear, my eyes or TV are fucked up

[SweatingGin]

He's testing you.

[GILMORE]

I think it might be white.

Which really isnt that important. i still hate that suit. but still. I'm supposed to say nice things when he wears white.

[SweatingGin]

I'm thinking pink.

[Fist of Etiquette]

AH! Lou Dobbs.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Wow, they won't pull the aftershow football away this time!

[GILMORE]

....Ahhhhhhhhhhhhgggggyyy! DERBS!!

[Bobarian]

AFTERSHOW is go!

[kibby]

While we wait (possibly in vain) for the aftershow...who has some good tips on moving efficiently & quickly to a new city? I have basically no time to get all this done...

[Bobarian]

Burn down your current home and stuff, and collect insurance in new location?

[kibby]

My current apartment complex may take umbrage with that idea.

[jesse.in.mb]

Damn it, that was basically my advice.

[Virginian]

I just moved. Not to a different city, but still. Toss shit out. Take the oppurtunity. I gave away a quarter of my books. If I had it on ebook, it went. Clothes I couldn't remember the last time I wore them? Gone. Random shit that sat in drawers and boxes since who knows when? Also gone.

[kibby]

I definitely need to take this advice. I'll bet I could clear another half shelf of books with a little work!

[Dances-with-Trolls]

throwing away books is evil. at least donate them.

[kibby]

I would never throw away a book unless it was horribly damaged! The Humane Society here has a thrift store where I donate all my stuff.

[Virginian]

I sent all mine to a nonprofit that works on reintegrating excons into society. Hopefully they'll do some good there.

[mr simple]

I hear they're good places to hide shivs or rock hammers.

[Trials and Trippelations]

My wife banned me from helping pack for moves because I try to throw too much away.
Apparently, I pack the boxes wrong, so I am banned from that too.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Lucky you then.

[Dances-with-Trolls]

Needs to write a pamphlet about how he made that happen.

[Trials and Trippelations]

1. Be stubborn.
2. Try to put items of different theme or rooms in the same box.
3. Best if done soon after your honeymoon so that you are still in your wife's good graces, but the urgency of the move multiplies your poor lacking skills.

[Dances-with-Trolls]

pizza, beer, boxes, buddies. some assebly required

[kibby]

Yeahhhh, friends aren't something I possess.

[Dances-with-Trolls]

Well with pizza and beer you should be able to acquire some long enough to fill and move the boxes. If the beer doesn't work simply apply the Beer Corollary to the First Rule of Brute Force: If Brute Force isn't working you are not using enough Brute Force. In this case brute force = beer.

[kibby]

Hahah, okay I will keep this in mind for the future. Not entirely sure I want drunk people handling my antique furniture, though!

[Trials and Trippelations]

If this is a full time job or paid internship don't forget to save your receipts related to moving. Gas, lodging, moving company or rental, etc to claim moving expense on next year's taxes.

[kibby]

THANK YOU FOR THIS TIP! Something I never would have thought of doing!

[Cdr Lytton]

Professional moving service? Takes the same money as beer and pizza, just more of it.

[Fluffy]

Friends are better than a professional moving service because friends don't get all your stuff in the truck, drive the truck away, and then call you on their cell and demand double the amount of pizza and beer you promised them at the outset in order to return with the truck.

[kibby]

Once my Mom is back in town we'll rent a truck & move the majority of my apartment. Mostly what I'm taking for this first bit is pretty easy -- clothes, kitchen/bathroom things, cat stuff.

I'll probably be camping on the floor for two weeks (complete with back pain!), so that will be something of an adventure.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

You could just buy an air mattress, you know.

[kibby]

Shyeah because that would last two seconds with cats around.

[Some call me Tim?]

...I've used movers and this has NEVER happened to me.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Where you moving to?

[kibby]

Somewhere in Phoenix. My job starts on the 23rd!

[Trials and Trippelations]

Trash a lot of your stuff.
Renting a Penske or other moving trucks is the cheapest and they aren't as scary as it seems. Unless you are towing a car and driving through Utah or Colorado.
Pods are the more expensive option, but a nice relief. I am using Uhaul's pods (they are the cheapest) this summer, but there is a lag from packing to arrival. I am taking the scenic route to the east coast, and the pods will still be a few days behind.

Sell as much stuff as you can on craigslist.

[kibby]

Thank you for reminding me about Craigslist. Microwave & kitchen table can both go.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Hey. It works.

[GILMORE]

Ellis would fuck a dead thing.

[Bobarian]

Fucking Ellis should be considered necrophilia.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Beastiality? Really?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Dolphins are known as the ferrets of the sea.

[Bobarian]

This is why Kmele doesn't swim?

[Winston]

So that's where Major Burns went...

[jesse.in.mb]

Kennedy is incredulous that Kmele reads.

[Winston]

You Know Who Else didn't think a black man could read?

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Did he miss the Friedman joke?

[Winston]

Tom? Milton? Sidney (aka Mr. Diane Arbus)?

[GILMORE]

He didn't get that Matt was referencing the fact that TF always claims to be channeling the wisdom of cabdrivers, no.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Anton Checkov drove a cab.

[GILMORE]

I thought he just wrote that thing about the cab driver and his horse

he didnt drive one himself. Did he?

Do you know the story?

[Notorious G.K.C.]

I was just making shit up. I may have gone so far away from reality that I came around the other end and hit some actual facts.

[GILMORE]

You don't know the story? Its one of the most famous short stories in history.

[GILMORE]

http://www.oneyearofwritingand.....f_wha.html

It is unquestioningly the most tear-jerking, man-cry stories ever written.

The cab driver keeps trying to tell a story, but he is interrupted by the passenger each time. In the end, he's tying up his horse, and he decides to tell the horse the story, about how his son just died.

Its frequently used in writing classes as an example of 'perfect' fiction.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Well, what do you know!

That was weird. I just thought I was making a random joke.

Wow.

[GILMORE]

That is indeed bizarre.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio...

[Big Chief]

That probably helped him qualify to work the helm on the Enterprise.

[Winston]

Too bad it didn't help him with the nucular wessels.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Sulu was the helmsman, Chekov was navigation.

[Winston]

Sulu was the physicist and Paul Fix was the doctor.

[Fluffy]

TOTAL NERD DOMINATION ACHIEVED

[Sevo]

No wonder they got lost.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Shatner once joked they made daring racial progress by having Kirk kiss a black girl and letting an Asian drive.

[Winston]

No Number One and Gary Mitchell were at the helm and Jose Tyler and Lee Kelso were at the helm.

[Winston]

I mean Jose Tyler and Lee Kelson were the navigators.

[Winston]

Lee Kelso.

[Fist of Etiquette]

"Sweep the leg."

[GILMORE]

+ 1 Cobra Kai

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Fuck you.

[Fist of Etiquette]

I even took the extra time to put it in quotes.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

I had to check it. I almost posted sweep the knee.

[Fist of Etiquette]

YOU SIR ARE AN IDIOT.

[GILMORE]

The fighting one-legged Kiwi guy reminds me of Peter Dinklage

I got the guy a cab, and he fucking spit and cursed at me because he thought i was patronizing him for being a dwarf.

I should have kicked him. There was so much ice on the ground that day that he would have slid like an air-hockey puck a whole block.

[Sevo]

"I got the guy a cab, and he fucking spit and cursed at me because he thought i was patronizing him for being a dwarf."

One night in a bar, wife was going to "help" a guy in a chair. Nope, she was not going to read the signs that "help" was REALlY not appreciated; I ended up sort of pulling her away.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Sweep the leg.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Kennedy is killing it.

[jesse.in.mb]

They're all high, aren't they?

[Bobarian]

So, once again, the aftershow FTW!

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Do they get paid for the after show?

[Corning]

Considered promotional work I am sure.

So it is part of earning their salary.

[Fist of Etiquette]

DID SHE SAY THEY'RE KENNEDYLESS TOMORROW?

[Corning]

And THAT is how you earn the RIGHT to talk over any damn person she pleases.

[Winston]

You Know Who Else wanted to kick the only Jewish Man out of something?

[jesse.in.mb]

Laban?

[Notorious G.K.C.]

The Uncircumcized Dolphin Golf Club?

[GILMORE]

Dear Independents

We, the people who sort of watch your show, would like to humbly request that you take Kmele's comments tonight regarding dolphins and ensure that a clip of said insight is made available on youtube so that we can share his intimate knowledge of sea-mammal behavior with the wider world. Every day. Forever.

Thank you.

[Winston]

Why does everything die after 10? This is so sucking ducks it fucks.

[kibby]

It's because of you.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

This thread needs to be revived, like this guy's career:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwlVgpXXJS0

CAUTION: DO NOT CLICK THE LINK.

[Winston]

Psshaw I posted about him before you.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

It says 11:00 for both of us.

Which *is* kind of creepy.

[jesse.in.mb]

Rick Astley didn't age, he just got less skinny. It's uncanny.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

His dancing is less awful too...

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Rick's career is doing just fine. I still have his cassette somewhere...

[Sevo]

Winston|6.10.14 @ 10:47PM|#
"Why does everything die after 10? This is so sucking ducks it fucks."

'Cause east-coast posters. Barely into the 5th inning here.

[Dances-with-Trolls]

So a quick check of Ace of Spades and HotAir seems to confirm my thought that the Amnesty boogyman played a significant part in the upset of Eric Cantor tonight. I'm glad to see a 20+ congressional parasite hit the road but if this is going to be the thing that motivates the Red Team base I can't really be all too pleased with the direction that will probably push the issue.

[Dances-with-Trolls]

Virginia Code 24.2-520 : A candidate who loses a primary shall be prohibited from having his name on a general election ballot.

And this answers another question I had. Wow. He's done. Groovy.

[Sevo]

Ya know, I tried reading the HotAir link and to be honest, it's unreadable.
I'm sure if you read it on a regular basis, it would make sense, but between the inside jokes/references and the repeated conditional clauses, I'm not sure he ever got around to making his point.
Care to tell us what all that meant.

[Winston]

inside jokes/references

Um...

[Sevo]

Well, I tried.

[Dances-with-Trolls]

There's plenty of insider chatter I don't really follow but a definite take-away is immigration, particularly "amnesty" is still a word to conjure with among the republican base.

This: but I think we're going to end up disappointed here too. I'm guessing Cantor takes 65-70 percent, capping a glorious night for fans of immigration reform.

Was from the original article before it became clear that Cantor was going to lose. The comments are full of it as well.

[Winston]

SO between Matt Welch, the Sixth Doctor and Rick Astley who has the worst fashion sense?

[kibby]

Six can't help having follow Five's awesome cricketing outfit! It just made his so much more garish...

[Winston]

I bet you have all 97 missing episodes in your sock drawer don't you?

[kibby]

MAYBE.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Well it's a good thing I did not have class today since someone committed suicide at my school today by jumping off the building next to where my class normally meets.

[kibby]

Uhhhhhhh.....

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

It happened around 5 today, so if he had chosen to do it yesterday at the same location I likely would have witnessed it.

A shame when people make such rash decisions.

[Winston]

Mike Altman was wrong?

[Winston]

Seriously, that sounds awful.

[Sevo]

No comment, GMSM, since I have no idea what to say about that.
But the guy who got snookered in the primary; is he a so-con? From that I can gather, the guy who won is a small-gov't promoter.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Which primary are you talking about? The Cantor one or the California GOP gubernatorial one?

[Sevo]

Cantor; I'll check Eddie's links.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

FreedomWorks scorecard

http://congress.freedomworks.o.....i-cantor-0

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Ratings aggregated by Project VoteSmart

http://votesmart.org/candidate.....5fLtvldVW8

[Sevo]

This is a tell.

[BiMonSciFiCon]

This game is the worst. The Heat played just well enough in the 3rd to make it interesting, but they really have no chance. I keep holding out hope Lebron will pull a Lebron, but I doubt it.

[Winston]

I can't get over Michael Mann for his "hide the decline" remarks.

[Sevo]

Any hoops played in June is beyond the worst.
I hope they all get heat cramps.

[Dances-with-Trolls]

har har har

[Winston]

What do you think of June Hockey then Sevo?

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

It's awesome because it's usually played in Los Angeles.

[Winston]

Good to get out from the hot summer into the freezing arena?

[jesse.in.mb]

Meh, June is our cool season.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

For the next 4 weeks: High 70, Low 63

[jesse.in.mb]

Just hot enough this weekend that I got torched, now it's cool and nice. I haz a sad.

[Sevo]

Winston|6.10.14 @ 11:36PM|#
"What do you think of June Hockey then Sevo?"

'Bout what I think of December baseball.

[Irish]

Tim Scott wins 90% of the vote.

Republicans are so racist! 10% of them refused to vote for a black guy!

[Cytotoxic]

Is he any good?

[Notorious G.K.C.]

At what, and compared to whom?

[Irish]

Stupendously mediocre. I just think it's hilarious that a black guy got 90% of the vote in a GOP primary in the deep south and the Dems still think Republicans are racists.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Yeah, that's why they refused to elect Piyush Jindal as governor of Loosey-ana.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

He's running against a black woman in the general, so no matter what happens, South Carolina voted against a black person. Racist!

[Dances-with-Trolls]

My God, then even the African-Americans there will become racists! Can you now see what villainy the GOP has wrought?!

[Winston]

Dem Pres candidates used to get 95% of the vote in South Carolina. This doesn't tar the New Deal and Woodrow as racist now does it?

[Irish]

It's a well known fact that neither Woodrow Wilson nor Lyndon Johnson ever did anything racist.

[Winston]

Hasn't it been pretty much proven that LBJ was elected to the Senate due to fraud (in the primary) and racism (which rendered the Texas GOP irrelevant)?

[Winston]

I always found it funny that the only States that the egghead Adlai Stevenson won were in the Deep South. And his first running mate was a segregationist.

[Whahappan?]

The don't think Republicans are racist, they merely find it convenient to pretend they are.

[Winston]

You mean they are arguing in bad faith? I never thought of that!

[Sevo]

"Republicans are so racist! 10% of them refused to vote for a black guy!"

There was a precinct in No Cal where NOBODY showed up to vote. The attendant(?) sat there the entire day and played cross-words I guess.
The local lefty rage said it was the fault of the lazy voters! Couldn't be the fact that the CA D and GOP parties put up one piece of shit after the other?
Naah.

[Irish]

There was a precinct in No Cal where NOBODY showed up to vote.

I think this might be the result of living in a one party state.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

They need to offer more free shit!!!!

[Irish]

Hilarious.

Eric Cantor's internal polling had him up 34 points as of 4 days ago.

[Sevo]

"Photograph of President Truman holding Chicago Tribune newspaper, November 3, 1948"
http://www.blackarchives.org/c.....ber-3-1948

[Winston]

So I've been reading about Moon Landing conspiracy theories and well I must say the conspiracy theorist's claims don't stand up to scrutiny and they use very dubious logic. Not only do they end up encouraging wild theories with no evidence (in fact they don't even come up with an actual theory) they often end up encouraging solipsism with arguments like "the government lies therefore Apollo was a hoax."

My personal favorite was the claim that the moon landing sets used dust-free sand.

And what do you guys think of the line of argument that "the government lies therefore Apollo was a hoax"?

[Dances-with-Trolls]

I seem to remember hearing about a book on the topic of conspiracies somewhat recently.. Where was that again?

[Sevo]

Any comment on these?
http://www.vikingrivercruises......index.html

[Dances-with-Trolls]

Needs moar axes.

[Sevo]

"Needs moar axes."

I LIKE it!

[Apatheist ?_??]

I've heard good things before but I don't do cruises/organized trips. Just finish booking up my hostels for a drive through Norway. I hate even having stuff that strictly timed out but the wife insisted.

[Sevo]

Apatheist ?_??|6.11.14 @ 12:07AM|#
"I've heard good things before but I don't do cruises/organized trips."

We try not to also, but the Danube basin culture and architecture was driven by the trade on the river, so I'm thinking it might be worth it.

[Apatheist ?_??]

I really have heard good things about the viking cruises from multiple people. I think I've seen ppl on here mention it too, maybe post again in am/pm links.

[Suthenboy]

That is me. I book a hotel where I want to go and then spend a week or two exploring everything at my leisure.

[Apatheist ?_??]

Problem is we're going in the middle of every norwegian's summer and some of the hostels were getting booked up, especially private rooms. We're only staying one night in a dorm so she's happy. Our daily schedule other than the drives that need to be completed are completely open, so I'm happy. Plus with the sun never setting, we have literally all day to do things.

[Suthenboy]

That sounds like a fantastic trip.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

R.I.P.D.

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