Drug War

Feds to Raided Smoke Shop Owner: Say Your Sister Assaulted a Federal Agent or No Bail For You

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Ridiculous miscarriage of justice out of federal court in the western division of Texas, Pecos division.

Tom Cochran

In a federal/local raid earlier this month on a "smoke shop" called the Purple Zone in Alpine, Texas, two sisters running the place were arrested: Ilana and Arielle Lipsen.

Arielle insists she was hit in the head with a rifle by a DEA agent in what she characterized as an unprovoked assault. The feds, naturally, insist that Ms. Lipsen in fact attacked the agent.

Pictures of Lipsen's head with the alleged gun butt wound were taken and spread on Facebook by Tom Cochran, who runs a screen printing shop whose services the Lipsen sisters used.

The document that Ilana Lipsen had to sign to make bond, which I have seen, included this handwritten demand among some of the more common typeset ones like "maintain or actively seek employment" and "surrender passport": 

"will advice media (Kwest9 news) that he [sic] sister, arielle lipsen, was not beaten by agents carrying/using a M16 rifle, and her sister instigated/assaulted agents."

The bond document also demanded she ask Tom Cochran to take his photos of the aftermath of the raid and of Arielle's wounded head off Facebook; Cochran says she did make that request, and he refused to comply. Various people complained to get Facebook to take down the photos, but Cochran says Facebook investigated and decided there was no reason to delete them. Cochran also says that once safely free, Ilana thanked him for not taking them down. 

Ilana says this morning that at the advice of her lawyer she can't say much, but did tell me: "I was incarcerated from Tuesday of last week and wasn't released until Monday of this week. That should tell you something."

A NewsWest9 report says Lipsen did, as ordered, recant her original story.

The pictures have now led Cochran to suffer a public call for boycott of his business, Big Bend Screen Printing, from the National Border Patrol Council, an AFL-CIO affiliate union for Border Patrol workers. (Local station NewsWest9 has more on that.) Cochran finds this a weird abuse of federal agency power, to use their name in a union to attack the livelihood of a private citizen not facing any charges. "Their own code of conduct says they should not use anything associated with [the agency] for personal gain or to assert undue influence."

Witness Nick Branson, who lived in a separate apartment with a separate address attached to the raided store, had his home searched as well, and though he's been charged with nothing had some property taken, more property than the feds will admit to in the property list they left him with, he complains. They took a gun and some hard drives and flash drives and some frankincense, which he assumes they think is illegal.

He insists that the incident happened this way: Ms. Lipsen "was talking to another agent, she wasn't yelling as they claim, she was on the sidewalk, wasn't even on the property at the time. She was basically saying things like, 'don't you have better things to do with cartels and kidnapping and human trafficking, we are 100 miles from the border, this is what you are coming up with?'

"That's when the same agent who told me he didn't need a warrant to be inside my house [and who also, Branson says, snapped back with "what are you, a fucking lawyer?" when Branson mentioned the Fourth Amendment] tried to grab her. She backed up, said 'don't touch me.' He said, 'you are resisting arrest' and basically put his leg out, threw her over his leg onto the ground.

"She tried to get back up and he went to shove her face back into the ground. She's flailing at this point, obviously upset, and he says 'you are assaulting me' and used his rifle butt on her neck to pin her to the ground while other agents tackled her."

Branson says he's shown the picture of Lipsen to friends of his from military who confirm that that is what it would likely look like if a rifle butt were pressed into her neck.

Some excerpts from local news coverage, including the Big Bend Sentinel:

Arielle Lipsen was indicted on one count of assault on a federal officer causing bodily injury and Ilana Lipsen was indicted on one count of person under indictment receipt of ammunition.

Purple Zone owners Ilana Lipson, and her mother, Rosa Lipsen, are currently under state indictment for multiple first-degree felony manufacture, deliver, or possession of a controlled substance following four previous raids beginning in November 2012.

They've pleaded not guilty to the charges.

And local TV station NewsWest9 on the whys and results of the raid:

On Wednesday, the DEA in partnership with Customs Border Protection held a nationwide synthetic drug takedown named 'Project Synergy: Phase II" involving nearly 200 search warrants in 29 states across the U.S. The DEA says the  visit to The Purple Zone in Alpine was one of them…..

The owner's sister told her agents entered their business and took their guns, two computers, cell phones, cameras and their hard drives. She also says agents disconnected her surveillance cameras then faced them toward the wall. The owner claims nothing she sells is illegal, nor is it classified as a synthetic drug….

NewsWest 9 spoke with the DEA who confirms that this was a state search warrant used in this situation, looking for synthetic controlled substances. They say these allegations are false.

In a statement from Brewster County District Attorney, Rod Ponton, he says, "Numerous items of evidence, including "spice" packages, firearms, and ammunition, were seized pursuant to warrants. When occupants refused entry to agents in possession of a valid warrant, the door was broken down, during which action one agent received an accidental cut, which resulted in the blood at the scene. Ariel Lipsen was arrested for assaulting one of the agents. Neither she nor any person involved was "beaten with the butt of an M-16″, or assaulted in any manner."

Interesting long stuff from Alpine Avalanche on the background of the DEA war on synthetic drugs.

While Lipsen's lawyer was not available for comment this morning, other criminal defense lawyers told me this is a strangely abusive bail demand. Mark Kuby, who is also a talk show host in New York, considers it a "Texas-sized" violation of rights, "as unprecedented as it is unconstitutional" since bail demands properly should be restricted to furthering two government interests: protecting the community from possible criminal action by defendant, and to make sure the defendant appears for trial.

That said, a third criminal defense lawyer I spoke to said that when it comes to possible co-conspirators, such demands might not be that unusual.

Hat tip: Wil Wheaton's Tumblr via colleague Jesse Walker

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  1. When occupants refused entry to agents in possession of a valid warrant, the door was broken down, during which action one agent received an accidental cut, which resulted in the blood at the scene. Ariel Lipsen was arrested for assaulting one of the agents. Neither she nor any person involved was “beaten with the butt of an M-16”, or assaulted in any manner.

    Either the DEA agent was idiotic in the way he phrased that, or they indicted that woman for assaulting a federal agent based on an “accidental cut” received through breaking down the door. Is that all it takes for such an indictment?

    (Yes, that’s a rhetorical question.)

    1. No, all he means is that the assault by Ariel didn’t cause bleeding.

      1. More likely he’s trying to say that the blood at the scene is the agent’s, and not Ariel’s.

        It’s a little too late for the defense to test the blood at this point.

  2. She was basically saying things like, ‘don’t you have better things to do with cartels and kidnapping and human trafficking, we are 100 miles from the border, this is what you are coming up with?’

    Clearly the DEA thug was triggered by such a piercing example of truth.

    1. Disrespect of the King’s Men is disrespect of the King.

      1. “Fuck the King!”–Sandor ‘The Hound’ Clegane

        1. I want a spin-off buddy cop show called Arya and The Hound. Have them be bounty hunters or something. I don’t care. It would be awesome.

          1. I prefer Melisandre and Selyse: The Unlikely Lesbians who Love Fire.

        2. I know that a lot of people seem to like it, but I find the Arya and The Hound Show to be completely at odds with what their characters are supposed to be like. This whole season is derailing faster than the Granville?Paris Express.

          1. Oh right, don’t let me forget to tell you about that too.

          2. Pretty much all scenes not set in King’s Landing have been disappointing. Jon Snow and Danerys continue to be insufferable while the Bran storyline is boring.

            Ramsay’s scenes are hit and miss and I’m giving the Stannis scenes a pass since I know where he’s going.

            But still, the last three episodes should be good. The duel between the Mountain and the Dornish Viper followed by the Battle of Castle Black. And I’m pretty sure we’ll meet Lady Stoneheart in the finale.

    2. It was his own fault for looking into the Bucket of Truth. He should have headed for the Hot Chicks Room.

      1. I heard hat the hot chicks just aren’t that hot anymore, but that they are replaceable. Is this true?

        1. Only if your name is warty.

      2. +1 BONG BOY!!!

  3. I got nothing clever, guys. This is some fucked up shit right here.

    1. If Hugh is stumped, you know it’s bad. Or that he drank a lot of cough syrup and Listerine this morning. I suppose it could be both.

      1. Who cares if I can’t remember how to tie my shoes? My breath is minty fresh!

        1. This is how you tell if Hugh is drunk. Normally his breath is as fresh as a summer ham.

    2. Me neither. Our society does not want to believe that this sort of behavior is as commonplace as it is. I am sure that people in places that have gone crazy in the past, such as Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, etc. must have kept telling themselves that it has to stop somewhere, that this is just abnormal and things will get back to their proper place eventually. But it didn’t. America is resistant to that sort of thing, but it is not immune, and it seems that the country is getting sicker and sicker, the ruling class becoming more brazen each passing year. I have now idea if something will happen that will touch off widespread protest against this stuff, but I am not optimistic. The internet and other media has made it more obvious than ever before and yet it keeps going on and on.

      1. It’s going to take a lot more than protests to make any change. And then the cycle will just start over.

      2. …must have kept telling themselves that it has to stop somewhere, that this is just abnormal and things will get back to their proper place eventually.

        They were hoping that it would get better. Shit in one hand and hope in the other – see which one fills up.

    3. I thought the same thing. I couldn’t come up with anything as absurdly unjust as a DEA agent forcing people he brutalized to pretend he never did anything.

  4. Drugs are bad, mmmkay? Therefore we must sacrifice all manner of respect for citizens’ rights in the fight against drugs.

    1. Rights you say? Citizens have rights? Who would have known?

  5. “The pictures have now led Cochran to suffer a public call for boycott of his business, Big Bend Screen Printing, from the National Border Patrol Council, an AFL-CIO affiliate union for Border Patrol workers.”

    Nancy Pelosi says there isn’t anything in the budget left to cut.

  6. Nothing surprises me anymore.

  7. Doesn’t a judge have to sign off on said bond agreement?

    1. What, you expect the judge to not just stamp whatever the prosecutors give him?

      1. Yes, and a Judge did.

        1. B. Dwight Goains, magistrate judge.

        2. Yup.

          Volokh found the other written out longhand in the judge’s own writing.

          1. I bet you could write “The accused must give the arresting officer a BJ to qualify for bail” and this motherfucker would have signed it.

            1. Only in Hawaii.

  8. She also says agents disconnected her surveillance cameras then faced them toward the wall.

    I was half expecting them to be executed at that point.

    1. This is a good reason to have a secret set of hidden backup cameras.

    2. What possible justification is there for disconnecting the cameras? I mean legally.

      1. thats the point if you know your about to abuse someones rights make sure there is no evidence

        1. note for everyone if the cops turn off your cameras you know your in trouble of course thats a two way street if you have batman skills.

      2. Wiretapping!

  9. The pictures have now led Cochran to suffer a public call for boycott of his business, Big Bend Screen Printing, from the National Border Patrol Council, an AFL-CIO affiliate union for Border Patrol workers

    This is extremely fucked. The unions are now going beyond negotiating obscene “rights” for their members who, you know, shoot and beat people to actually trying to throw their weight around to punish anyone who dares challenge their authoritah. This is really fucked.

    1. Obviously, it is time to start data mining the National Border Patrol Council. I’ll bet there’s plenty of dirt to find in that shitpile.

    2. That is not exactly new behavior for unions, dude.

      1. This situation is particularly egregious. I mean, they raided the fucking place. This isn’t “boycott this business because they won’t hire union labor” (which is bad enough), this is “boycott this business for telling the truth about our raid”. It’s fucked more than usual and is a terrible, terrible precedent.

        1. I agree that this is worse, but unions and violence go together like bacon and eggs. It was only a matter of time before public sector unions (which are among the most utter abominations in the US for my money) felt that they had the power to start behaving in this manner. I mean, when there are no consequences for outright killing people what is to restrain them from doing this? And what politician doesn’t want their campaign contributions? The next election is always so critical, ya know?

          1. If I ever just fell into Billions of dollars I would totally spend it just running ads against politicians that support these kinds of things and get support from pubsec unions.

            1. Why, so Harry Reid could slander you on the floor of the US Senate and you could spend most of your waking hours wondering if today is the day that some SPLC-inspired leftist gunman shows up at your place of work? Nah. If you ever inherit billions of dollars, the smart play is to renounce your citizenship and move to Singapore.

              1. I was about to say it: they’d accuse you of being a Koch topus.

    3. I know it’s hackneyed the call these people fascists, but holy fuck what a bunch of fascists.

      I mean, government agents calling for a boycott of a private citizen…what the fuck happened to this country?

    4. Decertify that union immediately.

  10. So Wesley Crusher has nothing better to do than facilitate the drug trade? This is a worse episode than that time he brought that distracting video game on to the Enterprise.

    1. I’d go farther than that and say that it’s even worse than his Big Bang Theory appearances.

      1. I much preferred his appearances on The Guild, mostly because I can’t fucking stand BBT.

    2. That game where people had to push things into a hole, and it responded by giving out orgasms to Ashley Judd.

      This Crusher fellow seems kinda rapey to me.

  11. The pictures have now led Cochran to suffer a public call for boycott of his business, Big Bend Screen Printing, from the National Border Patrol Council, an AFL-CIO affiliate union for Border Patrol workers.,

    So… what now? The Government are on a tweet hashtagtivism campaign to get people to boycott a business they raided?

    The fuck?

    1. They want to use every avenue of thuggery available to them. It’s kind of what they do.

    2. to get people to boycott a business they raided

      Nope. They want people to boycott a business owned by a person that criticized them for the raid on a completely different business.

      Beyond fucked up.

      1. I imagine that there are some elderly Jews around that could maybe relate.

  12. That mark is what I would expect from a “Smash” rifle blow. One of the “Five Killing Blows” the Marine Corps crammed too deeply into my head to ever forget.

    http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwa…..index.html

    1. One of the “Five Killing Blows” the Marine Corps crammed too deeply into my head to ever forget.

      Well clearly it didn’t work.

      I am here all ze veek.

      1. Well clearly it didn’t work.

        Because it was delivered by some porky DEA agent, not a Marine.

    2. First thing that I thought when I saw that mark was that she is lucky she wasn’t killed or crippled.

      1. Maybe that’s why they wouldn’t let her out of jail until she agreed to take down the pictures.

        Because anyone with any knowledge about these things could see the officer was trying to kill her.

    3. I’m not a forensic scientist, but it looks like she wasn’t facing the guy who delivered the blow with the rifle butt. I suppose it’s possible she was engaged with one agent and another delivered the shot from behind, but I’m pretty skeptical.

      1. Or she was face down on the ground and the blow came down on her. Which wouldn’t surprise me at all.

      2. It does seem like it would be hard to hit someone at that angle from the front.

        1. A horizontal butt-stroke would land there from the front (more of a hook type blow). But I think the mark would be different from the side of the butt. With a regular M16 there would also be a nasty divot on her neck from the sling loop.

  13. ‘don’t you have better things to do with cartels and kidnapping and human trafficking, we are 100 miles from the border, this is what you are coming up with?’

    Of course the question that pops to my mind is, will this reaffirm millennial support for Obama like… pretty much everything else has?

    1. They will blame Texas, not Obama.

    2. As reprehensible as this incident is, it’s going to take a lot more of this before the statist public manages to pry their respective heads out of their asses.

      You really have to wonder how bad it will have to get before regular people start pushing back. My bet is: probably right after it’s too late to do anything about it.

    3. OGL will never hear of this because it won’t make any paper or newscast that he listens to.

    4. President Blameless caught it on the news, just like the rest of us.

  14. This has to be the nut-punchiest week ever at Reason. Every day we get proof that the Bill of Rights simply does not exist any more. And, while most people chose to ignore it, we are rapidly heading towards some kind of really nasty fascist police state.

    Thanks for all the cheery news Reason.

    1. It’s as if Radley came back, but pissed. At us.

      1. Yeah. I mean I read this shit every day, but this is fucking CRAY. To me. That’s a bad sign.

  15. “The pictures have now led Cochran to suffer a public call for boycott of his business, Big Bend Screen Printing, from the National Border Patrol Council, an AFL-CIO affiliate union for Border Patrol workers.”

    Could the AFL-CIO look any more evil?

      1. Yeah.

        If you’re casting them in a Hollywood movie, to make them look more evil, what do you have to do?

        Dress them up like Nazis?

        Dress them up like Jihadi and have them conspiring to hijack a plane?

        If you wanted to make the AFL-CIO look any worse in this mess than they’re making themselves look, what would you have to do?

        1. “If you wanted to make the AFL-CIO look any worse in this mess than they’re making themselves look, what would you have to do?”

          Cover them more in the news.

    1. I make it a point to transact with boycotted businesses.

  16. IF only Obama knew this kind of stuff was going on.

    Someone made the comment yesterday that Obama is so stupid and out of touch the government is on auto pilot. That is really what is going on I think. The DEA doesn’t give a shit. Obama isn’t in control and the Congress and media won’t do anything since doing so would require embarrassing Obama, something they will never do. Right now, the federal LEOs figure they have a blank check to do anything they want.

    1. Do you honestly think he’d give a shit?

      1. I don’t know. I have never met him and don’t know what goes on in his head. The point is that he is so out of touch it doesn’t matter.

        1. If only the Czar knew!

      2. Obama is scared shitless of LEO unions. Remember how he backed down over that Henry Louis Gates affair during his first term?

      3. if they were African American Obama and Holder would be all over this.

    2. Certainly, if you believe that Obama believed any of the shit he claimed to get elected, that’s the best theory. He’s just too stupid to understand what is clear and simple and too impotent to do anything to fix the problems.

      I think it’s more likely that he is both alarmingly bad at governing and completely amoral and sociopathic. He understands that if he just ignores this stuff, most of the country will too. If he pretends to be incompetent, most of the country will shrug and pretend that Presidents have no power.

      1. I don’t think he is plotting with Valarie Jerrett and Holder on how to look like you support marijuana legalization but still raid the dispensaries. I think he just talks out of his ass and has no idea how to actually make the government do anything. Meanwhile, the DEA realizes that they have political cover to do anything they want and are taking the opportunity to do just that.

        1. I simply can’t comprehend having this problem if I were the President. What you suggest sounds plausible, but it makes no goddamn sense.

          I heard about the Green Lantern theory this morning and this doesn’t seem so different than that. He just doesn’t have the imagination and competency to do anything. That doesn’t pass the smell test to me. It doesn’t take imagination or competency to demand that the DoJ cease enforcing drug laws.

          1. It seems unbelievable doesn’t it? It is more believable when you consider a couple of things. First, Obama has never worked in government or anywhere outside of community organizing and academia. Those people live in a fucking bubble. Second, you have to remember how big and complex the federal government is. Think about the four Presidents that preceeded Obama. Three of them, Reagan Clinton and Bush II had been governors. The other, Bush I, had spent a life time in federal service and had headed up a major agency, the CIA, and been VP for eight years. And even with all that experience and in the case of Bush I and Clinton, ridiculously high IQs, they barely controlled the government. What chance does President affirmative action have?

            Worse, I think after he got in the job and realized how miserable and hard it was, he just checked out. He doesn’t even try anymore and hasn’t for a long time.

            1. I don’t think high IQ or governing experience are necessarily going to lead to a more efficient and well-run bureaucracy.
              It’s one thing to have a high IQ and another the innate ability to analyze systems. As far as experience in government goes, it’s more probable that spending years as a bureaucrat or ‘governor’ would filter for a special class of narcissists and enablers of the bureaucracy. So while Bush I and Clinton would be in a better place than a low-self esteem loser, community organizer and academic, the chances of actually being able to organize an effective analysis of government and overcome the bureaucracy and also deal with a compliant media and congress are pretty slim. It really is on auto-pilot (or perhaps self-destruct mode.)

      2. If he pretends to be incompetent,

        I don’t think he is pretending.

  17. I would also say we are getting to the point that we need some kind of national truth and reconciliation commission to deal with DOJ and the abuses of AUSAs. You just have a commission that opens all of the books, takes testimony from the victims and documents every case of abuse going back to say 2000, that way no one can say it is partisan. Then publish a report that names names and describes it all and put it on the internet. Meanwhile fire every attorney involved in such abuse and rewrite the federal criminal code eliminating the laws that they abused to do so.

    Nothing short of a complete turnover and change at DOJ is going to stop this. This is the result of decades of the department sanctioning getting convictions by any means necessary and a culture of corruption and abuse. Nothing short of drastic measures will fix it.

    1. I have to agree.

      All the stuff we want as libertarians?

      Hopeless.

      We shouldn’t even try for that stuff any more.

      The most we can hope for now is to restore basic accountability to the federal bureaucracy and to law enforcement.

      And unfortunately, we may not even be able to hope for that.

      1. Conservatives and Libertarians and the remaining liberals who haven’t yet gone full fascist kill each other over the culture war and immigration and obamacare and such. Really though, what is going on at DOJ is the most pressing problem we face. It is nothing short of the end of the rule of law in this country. It doesn’t matter what you think about socialized medicine or taxes or immigration or gay marriage or any of that shit. No one who isn’t a full on evil fascist can support this shit.

        The problem is that thanks to our idiotic media, they don’t often understand how bad it really is and even if they do we are so divided on other issues people feel powerless to do anything about it.

        1. I totally agree.

          It’s really fucking depressing when you think about how fucked the system is and that even if everyone that posted here put this article on their facebook it wouldn’t get people to stop for two seconds to think about how far down the rabbit hole we’ve already fallen.

        2. Why do you think the media and the TEAMs love KULTUR WAR, John? Precisely for this reason. It distracts people from much more serious issues of power abuse. And so many people willingly go all in on KULTUR WAR, just like the politicians want.

          1. The media loves power. And yes, they love to divide the country on various culture war bullshit because it keeps the country from doing something about what is going on.

        3. The problem is that thanks to our idiotic media, they don’t often understand how bad it really is

          The idiotic media is complicit in the demise because they like it that way.

      2. Libertarians: Defining success down, since 1973.

        1. Problems are all relative. High taxes and regulations seem like life or death issues until DOJ knocks on the door.

  18. I guess Cong. Gallegos (D) who hails from Alpine,and the two GOP Senators from Texas are far to busy to make any outcries about this.

  19. I really want to post this on my facebook with the heading “Fuck you Drug Warriors”.

    Also, what do you think the chances are that she was being harassed and abused while sitting in jail on top of the rest of it.

    1. I’m pretty sure being harassed and abused goes without saying if you’re in jail.

    1. “Content unavailable”

      1. I guess you have to be logged into FB. Works fine for me.

  20. My wife is finally coming around to hating cops. She says most are nice, blah, blah, blah.

    The other night, she was late for dropping my son off at a dance. One of the lanes was blocked by an officer for a tow truck in order to move a wrecked car.

    She kept waiting for the cop to wave her around when no oncoming traffic was there. Finally after about 10 minutes, she just went anyway.

    She said the cop gave her the meanest look and she said she gave it right back at him.

    Luckily she wasn’t shot. /sarc – kind of – maybe not.

    Point being, if she can come around to hating cops, anybody can.

    1. My favorite involved making my way home from class by taking the interstate through the heart of the city, which for that time of night is sparsely populated. Unfortunately, three of the four lanes were blocked off. After about twenty minutes of inching along in traffic I pass by the scene of the accident: one vehicle, spun out in the center-right lane, surrounded by two ambulances, a firetruck, and three cruisers. No activity, no visible damage, but a dozen or so personnel hanging out in a semicircle watching traffic crawl through their single-lane funnel.

      1. A few years back, Monkey County police shut down an entire road for over 4 hours, during morning rush hour, so they could investigate an accident that one of their own was responsible for causing.

        It must take some time to make change the evidence at the crash site, so the non-cop is blamed and to make sure their stories are straight.

    2. Every day people who for the entire history of this country have supported the police turn on them. I know so many people like your wife who have finally had enough and turned on them.

      At some point we are going to reach a tipping point and the cops will have totally lost society. That won’t be a good thing for society or the cops. Once you lose trust it is really hard to get back.

      1. I agree. And maybe it’ll be a generational thing. None of my kids have any respect for cops.

        I kindly take the credit for most of that, although they are smart enough to figure it out for themselves now.

        However, when they ask me if a cop can do this or that, my reply is always the same – “A cop can do anything he wants to. Be careful.”

        One day it will turn, and some good ones will go down with the bad, but fuck them anyway for not speaking up when they should’ve.

        1. When my Vietnam veteran former Marine only didn’t vote Republican in a Presidential election once (and that was because he was pissed the party sold out Nixon) turned on the cops, I knew something had gone very wrong in this country. He is not the only person, just the closest, who was a law and order hate the hippies Conservative clear through the 60s, 70s and 80s and a lot of the 90s who turned on the cops.

          1. Yeah, my brother is a fireman and they share buildings and stuff with the city police force.

            He is the not interested in politics, libertarian stuff, or anything really. Just likes to hunt and fish.

            He says the stuff he hears the cops say makes his stomach turn.

    3. Point being, if she can come around to hating cops, anybody can.

      My wife-unit is hopeless in that regard.

      I’m teaching my kids to never call the cops unless you absolutely have to.

      1. My wife is the rule follower in the family, and I never thought in a million years she would come around, but after seeing it for herself, she did it on her own.

        That night, she said, you’re going to be so proud of me. Why, I asked.

        “Because I think I hate cops now.”

        Best/funniest quote from her in a long time.

        1. I was sending the wife-unit a story a day on cops, since she thought I was making it all up, being the fringe nutbag that I am. She refused to read them.

          If you ever want to rent your missus out….

          1. We might could work something out, but be careful.

            She’s can be a real hardass.

            Also, no early returns.

            1. Tonight, on Wife Swap…BUYERS REMORSE.

    4. Right, and this traffic-related nonsense doesn’t even register on the police abuse scale.

      Remember this story from yesterday?

      http://www.heraldtribune.com/a…../140529963

      A cop can beat the crap out of you while you’re being held down.

      If a miracle happens and he gets fired, he will eventually get handed his job back by an arbitrator. With a check for two years’ back pay.

      And the local prosecutor will make damn sure there’s no criminal prosecution.

      So there’s no check on police behavior, and you know what? I don’t think anybody really EXPECTS any check on police behavior any more.

      What will happen – and probably soon – is that people will give up. They won’t file complaints any more. They won’t appeal to IA or the local prosecutor or anyone else.

      And the cops think that’s what they want. Because they’re too fucking stupid to realize that they shouldn’t want it. Because once they get it, the day after they get it is the day people just start assassinating cops instead.

      1. And the cops think that’s what they want. Because they’re too fucking stupid to realize that they shouldn’t want it. Because once they get it, the day after they get it is the day people just start assassinating cops instead.

        Exactly. Vigilantism doesn’t come from nowhere. It happens when there is no government or people feel the government that is there can’t be trusted to give them justice.

        It is just a matter of time before some cop kills some kid and gets off and a mob pulls him out of his house and hangs him or someone walks up and blows his head off and no one sees a thing. I don’t think cops are going to like that environment very much. But that is where we are headed.

        1. It is just a matter of time before some cop kills some kid and gets off and a mob pulls him out of his house and hangs him or someone walks up and blows his head off and no one sees a thing.

          Maybe out west, but you will never, ever see anything eve approaching that in the right-thinking, SWPL east coast cities and suburbs, excepting the ghettos, of course.

          I’d love to see the populace to start thinking for themselves, but I know better by now.

          1. That shit never happens to the SWPL. It happens to minorities and minorities have been known to get pissed off an burn shit down when the cops push them too far.

            1. Very true, but he SWPL will just shake their heads and tsk-tsk at those poor niggers getting uppity again.

              1. Here is how I look at it. If one of these baboons somehow murdered my wife and got off, I can honestly say I very well might blow his head off. What the hell, I can’t imagine living a happy day again in my life if I had to live with my wife being murdered and the murderer walking away without punishment. I don’t know what I would do but I can’t say I wouldn’t.

                I can’t be the only one who thinks like that. It is just a matter of time before some aggrieved husband or parent takes matters into their own hands.

                1. The only thing that would stop me from doing that is my daughter.

        2. I don’t think cops are going to like that environment very much. But that is where we are headed.

          As I told a guy who is in my circle of friends (infests it really) when he was bragging to everyone about making the local equivalent of SWAT, “You think it’s great fun now, wait until we start playing OPFOR.”

          “What’s that supposed to mean.” – him

          “Simple really, playing Army is fucking great until people actually start shooting back. Plus, we know where you and your family live. You may feel invincible all kitted up toting an automatic rifle in a squad of similarly-equipped men and effectively, you are. But, I know who your wife is, where she works, I know who your kids are, where they go to school. When you’re off shooting up a house where some of my people live, just what do you think I’m going to be doing?” – me

          It’s going to get very ugly if this shit keeps up, but these mouth-breathing idiots and their moronic defenders are too fucking stupid to see it.

          1. These mouth breathing idiots love the tribal warfare mindset. And love love it even more the uglier it gets.

            This is the kind of shit that was just festering under the veneer of (an extremely corrupt) civilization in Iraq. To blame that on the “evil” of Saddam is just plain stupid – Saddam was inevitable. And the US DoD is so naiive they thought the result of our invasion would be puppy dogs and sunshine rather than the explosion of tribal tension that was seething underneath the surface the entire time. All we did was take away Saddam’s monopoly.

            1. These mouth breathing idiots love the tribal warfare mindset. And love love it even more the uglier it gets.<<br /
              No they don’t. They are cowards. If shit got ugly, the police forces would just stop showing up to work. No way would those assholes go to work if doing so actually involved real danger.

              1. If we’re at that point, I don’t think choosing to not show up on the day the serfs storm the Bastille isn’t going to matter.

                1. bleh, where’s my mind.

      2. So there’s no check on police behavior, and you know what? I don’t think anybody really EXPECTS any check on police behavior any more.

        Well, I kind of do.

        1. I do think the rise of cameras everywhere are really going to crimp the fun the cops have. If you show the view from 5 cameras of the scene and the area around it, juries may well find it persuasive. And people will be outraged further.

    5. My wife is finally coming around to hating cops.

      Just ask anyone who parrots the party line on cops if they are happy or anxious when a cop is behind them in traffic.

      If they are anxious (and everyone is), ask them why? If cops are such noble public servants, shouldn’t you always be happy to have one around?

  21. Too bad that no assault of a federal officer actually took place. Jack booted thugs don’t deserve to live in society. And furthermore, the government should be destroyed.

  22. Another funny one for you.

    I was stopped at a redlight and a cop was driving towards me in the other lane driving slowly looking at inspection stickers.

    I kept my gaze looking forward but nonchalantly held up my left hand and was giving the old middle finger.

    When the cop passed me, he stopped, tried to make a U-turn, but couldn’t because traffic was in his way. The light turned green and I drove off slowly.

    If they don’t get killed soon, judging by the look on the cop’s face, they start to spontaneously combust from anger when a peon does something like this.

    I sometimes wonder what would’ve happened had he pulled me over.

    1. You would either be posting here using only a pen you held in your mouth or from the great beyond.

      1. Yeah, I sometimes wonder if I’m brave or stupid or just the right mixture.

        The bad thing is that I live in a really small town (about 5000) and this cop and I already have a relationship.

        He’s pulled me over numerous times for my inspection sticker in the past.

        1. I admire your courage. Assholes with badges have a nasty habit of getting away with crimes against people they don’t like.

          -jcr

  23. during which action one agent received an accidental cut, which resulted in the blood at the scene

    the door missed the artery

  24. Just to add more fuel to the fire apparently it was an illegal warrant. No address, name or probable cause.

    Isn’t there something written down about this in a document somewhere… Con-something isn’t it.

    1. That thing is like 100 years old and was written by white slave owners. White. Slave. Owners.

  25. Way to kick a commenter in the nads. I flagged this story for you a couple of days ago when it first hit the web, in the comments.

    [pouts, takes swig of ‘shine, kicks dog]

    1. takes swig of ‘shine, kicks dog]

      If you expect to make Officer, you need to shoot the dog.

  26. Yep … the DEA swats at flies with missiles. When the US Government declared their insane “war on drugs” they completely militarized enforcement and gave the DEA full immunity. Unfortunately, “law enforcement” and “military actions” are now synonymous in the United Police States of America.

  27. Good to see that this story is shining light on the corrupt law enforcement in this county. These departments practice and enforce their own self-interested laws and have little to no regard for the law or it’s citizens. A long, thorough investigation needs to be made here by the state and federal governments in Austin and Washington DC. Crack down on everyone, and you will be surprised on what they find. This is not the first time that citizens in the county are threatened constantly if they speak out against their self-interests. What are they going to do now that the world knows of their CORRUPT WAYS!!!!

  28. These women should have their civil action filed before their next court appearance, and swear out a criminal complaint for depriving them of their civil rights under color of authority. This shit will continue until thugs start doing time for their crimes.

    -jcr

  29. A lot of this sounds awfully familiar…

    -He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
    -He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
    -He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
    -For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
    -For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
    -He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

    1. The progs keep telling us old writings have nothing to do with todays America. In reality they don’t want people to read those old writings so that they won’t know what is happening to them has happened and will happen again. If we don’t learn or are not allowed to learn form history there will be freedom in the future.

  30. Cameras folks, put cameras everywhere.

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