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Politics

Tonight on The Independents: Millennial Fever! Including an Interview With That Commie Rolling Stone Guy!

Matt Welch | 1.10.2014 8:47 PM

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Friday night episodes of your favorite new cable news television program, Fox Business Network's The Independents, are organized around a theme, as opposed to being ripped from the day's headlines. Tonight's is on a subject familiar 'round these parts: That mixed-up, shook-up, no-hope cohort of post-1980 humans known as millennials.

Are our nation's younguns on the wrong end of generational larceny? Weekly Standard Assistant Editor Jim Swift says the math is terrible and the politics worse. Has the postwar higher education system systematically undervalued vocational tech, to the point that millions of unskilled jobs go unfilled, even during a recession? Dirty Jobster Mike Rowe breaks down the numbers. Meanwhile, discussing technology, 9/11, gay marriage and more, are millennial panelists Andrew Kirell of Mediaite, Jill Filipovic of Feministe, Sebastian Rea of Tribeca Film, and Josh Nass of Voices of Conservative Youth.

The main event may be a three-on-one interview with Rolling Stone's Jesse Myerson, author of a controversial piece last week titled "Five Economic Reforms Millennials Should Be Fighting For," including such gems as "Make Everything Owned By Everybody." (Nick Gillespie in these pages called Myerson's efforts "sad" and "incredibly stupid.") Highlights from the discussion include Kennedy trying to redistribute Myerson's tie, me trying to trade Myerson's guaranteed universal income for the abolition of the welfare state, and Kmele Foster attempting to explain that "value" is subjective.

Finally, the show ends with a generational smackdown featuring Fox Business Network host Stuart Varney.

For more details check out the show's website, which has a video page where you can watch various prior segments, and a link to help you see whether you get Fox Business Network. The show will be rebroadcast over the weekend; check your local listings. And the Twitter feed is @IndependentsFBN.

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  1. Smilin' Joe Fission   11 years ago

    Late night thread already? Reason is quitting early for the weekend.

    1. GILMORE   11 years ago

      They’re already drunk

      1. Brett L   11 years ago

        Now you’ve done it. We’re all going to be called assholes again for insinuating that they’re drunk by 1pm EST.

        1. Almanian!   11 years ago

          Do they really need another excuse to call us assholes? No.

          1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

            Yes they do. Welch just bumped the thread to the top. So…

        2. GILMORE   11 years ago

          I’m presuming that after last night’s filming of the show with the communist they went on a 12hour coke/liquor binge, and are just dragging themselves home in a zombie stupor right about this time. Only the interns do any real work on Fridays anyway.

  2. sarcasmic   11 years ago

    You guys got your own show? That’s cool. Maybe you should write a book!

  3. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

    Highlights from the discussion include Kennedy trying to redistribute Myerson’s tie, me trying to trade Myerson’s guaranteed universal income for the abolition of the welfare state, and Kmele Foster attempting to explain that “value” is subjective.

    Kennedy didn’t hit him over the head with her frying pan? I am disappointed Matt.

    But really, I can’t imagine how insufferable he must have been in the face of hostile questioning given how smugly defiant he was on Twitter towards critics.

    1. Irish   11 years ago

      I’m looking forward to Matt using historical examples or even showing Myerson where his proposals appear in the Soviet Constitution, after which Myerson will undoubtedly lean back in his chair and smugly argue that Welch knows nothing about history.

      1. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

        More likely he’ll point out that Alaska shares some of its oil profits with the people and people in Switzerland attempted the guaranteed minimum income thing and ask if those polities are communist.

        But it’s really his disgruntled attitude towards the rich combined with the fact that his policies are fucking retarded and would destroy the economy that are dangerous in tandem.

        Who do you think gets the game when a Marxist utterly fails in managing an economy? It certainly isn’t the people at the top that suffer.

        1. Episiarch   11 years ago

          It is a very rare event indeed where the people at the top suffer.

          1. BigT   11 years ago

            Kim Jong-Un’s uncle begs to differ.

            Can bacon talk?

        2. BenjaminRTucker'sRevenge   11 years ago

          He said to abolish property, basically. Pretty sure that goes beyond Swiss socialism and Alaska’s socialist management of natural resources.

          1. Killaz   11 years ago

            To live like a typical Alaskan? Even if you discount the suck ass weather, I would take a pass.

  4. Corning   11 years ago

    an Interview With That Commie Rolling Stone Guy!

    That should be an interesting interview

    “You are a communist”

    “No I am not”

    “But all your policies are communist”

    “No they aren’t”

    1. SusanM   11 years ago

      Commie Rolling Stone Guy: “Nuh-uhhhh”

    2. BenjaminRTucker'sRevenge   11 years ago

      It’s sure to be full of propaganda ploys like buzzword and guilt by association, not to mention economic fallacies that will stymie the limited time for debate about the unsustainability and unethical nature of state communism.

  5. Kaptious Kristen   11 years ago

    OT: most hipster thing ever?

    1. Corning   11 years ago

      Fight Club was 90s.

      It would have to be from the 80s to be hipster…or wait 10 years until the 90s become hipster.

      1. lap83   11 years ago

        The 90s are already hipster.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE_9CzLCbkY

    2. Episiarch   11 years ago

      I’m confused.

    3. Warty   11 years ago

      So if I’m interpreting this right, you get to buy tickets to beat up a hipster in an Elvis suit, right? I’m not seeing the problem.

      1. Corning   11 years ago

        No…you are paying money to watch hipsters in unknown costume fake beat up each other.

        Basically WWF but without the awesome, without any athletic ability and without any acting talent.

    4. EDG reppin' LBC   11 years ago

      I don’t know about its hipster cred, but those burlesque dancers are fucking hideous.

      When doing sexy lady stuff:
      1. Look like a lady
      2. Do sexy stuff

      Jeesh!!!

      1. Brett L   11 years ago

        Yes. Ironic burlesque employing the unfit is not cool. Although obviously, dressing in men’s clothing while obeying rule #1 is very much in the burlesque tradition.

    5. Kaptious Kristen   11 years ago

      From what I understand, it was some sort of burlesque/Fight Club hybridish type thing in honor of Elvis’s birthday, where by you got to watch people in costume fake beating each other up on a stage.

      I thought it was way more hipster than even the Tweed Ride.

  6. Corning   11 years ago

    The main event may be a three-on-one interview with Rolling Stone’s Jesse Myerson

    Actually you guys should set up a William F Buckley Jr Firing line TV set with chairs and ashtrays the whole bit and have Kennedy try to do her best Buckley impression.

    1. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

      This should let guests smoke on their show. There’s an old school charm to that.

      1. Smilin' Joe Fission   11 years ago

        That would actually be really fucking cool.

        1. Sudden   11 years ago

          Makes me miss Hitchens.

      2. Whahappan?   11 years ago

        Probably illegal.

        1. Atanarjuat   11 years ago

          Nah, per Stanhope, even in NYC there’s an exception if it’s part of a performance.

    2. Irish   11 years ago

      This is the greatest idea I’ve ever heard.

      Kennedy (channeling Buckley): Our guest today is certainly welcome. I must say that I have rarely been so hectored by twitter users to invite a man to this hour of television as I have been with Jesse Myerson. My cohosts today are unquestionably well known to our audience, they being Matthew Welch from Reason magazine and one Kmele Foster, he of the truly wonderful America’s Future Foundation.

      I look forward to the four of us having a calm, reasoned conversation replete with jazz music and annoyingly pretentious phraseology.

      1. Almanian!   11 years ago

        And then Kennedy plays one of Bach’s Prelude and Fugues poorly on a baby grand as the credits roll.

        Splendid!

        1. GILMORE   11 years ago

          I object to the playing of Fugees.

          1. BigT   11 years ago

            He meant The Fugs.

  7. EDG reppin' LBC   11 years ago

    …Meanwhile, discussing technology, 9/11, gay marriage and more…

    Yay! Gays can get gay married. We finally have achieved Libertopia!

    1. BenjaminRTucker'sRevenge   11 years ago

      That’s Lubertopia.

  8. Restoras   11 years ago

    My 12-year old son has recently started reading Hunger Games, and watching the movies. I really knew nothing about the stories until this happened.

    While it is set in a ‘dystopian future’, I have been bringing up examples where the exact same scenario has played out in history. For example, the use of the other Districts as a source of food/resources by teh government in District 1 is analgous to ancient Sparta and its subjegation of the Helots, not to mention the use by Sparta of its male population as a professional army used primarily to prevent the Helots from rebelling. Also, the use of starvation as a weapon as in the Ukraine by the Soviet government, and the intentional disarming of the the population to eliminate the ability to fight back, as in every authoritarian government in history.

    Some of his reading teachers are using the books in class, I presume because they are something the kids these days are interested in reading. I hope he doesn’t get into too much trouble repeating what I have been saying…

    1. DesigNate   11 years ago

      I kinda hope he does, but only cause it will show that he isn’t swallowing their bullshit.

    2. Brett L   11 years ago

      Or the current day stripping of flyover states to concentrate wealth around Washington DC.

    3. Episiarch   11 years ago

      I think his opinion on Jennifer Lawrence is the more important factor here.

      1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

        At that age? His opinion is that she is female.

        1. Warty   11 years ago

          12? His opinion is that he beats it furiously to fake nude pics of her. Perhaps you don’t remember being 12.

        2. Episiarch   11 years ago

          I’m pretty sure at 12 I was starting to feel funny when I would see Heather Thomas on The Fall Guy. I know that you were a late pubescent bloomer at 25, ProL, but you can’t use your unusual hormonal experience to judge us normals.

          1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

            To be sure, I didn’t mean that he dispassionately identified her as a female of the species. I meant he recognized her as female in the perpetual pon farr sense. In other words, he lusts for her like he lusts for his friend’s older sister and the mail woman with the fat ass.

            1. Zeb   11 years ago

              Ok, that does sound like being 12.

              1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

                Don’t forget that 45 year-old teacher who wears halters to school and bends over in front of him explaining a problem.

                1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

                  I don’t feel tardy.

                  1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

                    Exactly.

            2. A wild THANE appeared!   11 years ago

              I meant he recognized her as female in the perpetual pon farr sense.

              You know, I assumed this was some Latin phrase that I didn’t know of, and looked it up.

              …ugh.

          2. GILMORE   11 years ago

            “I’m pretty sure at 12 I was starting to feel funny…”

            funny gay or funny ha ha?

            i was so horny when i was 12 i frequently had gangbang fantasies with most of the cast of the Facts of Life. (i was more Jo than Blair, if you must know)

            1. Archduke von Pantsfan   11 years ago

              as long as it’s not Natalie.

        3. Andrew S.   11 years ago

          At 12? No, he’s definitely discovering girls.

          (first celebrity crush of mine was Alyssa Milano circa 1987. I was 10.)

          1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

            See my response to Episiarch. I thought my meaning was clear, but apparently not.

            1. Andrew S.   11 years ago

              Disagree. At 12, I’m pretty sure that he’s separating them.

              (Mind you, I had an illegal cable box and the unscrambled Playboy Channel at 12. YMMV)

              1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

                Sure, he’d prefer to have sex with Jennifer Lawrence, but he still humps the leg of the mailwoman.

              2. Raston Bot   11 years ago

                I had an illegal cable box and the unscrambled Playboy Channel at 12

                aka the year you never left your room

                1. Bobarian   11 years ago

                  The year your socks kept breaking?

          2. Restoras   11 years ago

            Considering that the internet is awash in good quality free porn I am sure he is far more knowlegable at 12 than I was at that age.

          3. Killaz   11 years ago

            Donna Summer was my first crush. My first crush on a celebrity of a contemporary age, Molly Ringwald when she was on Facts of Life.

          4. Kaptious Kristen   11 years ago

            Mine was Dirk Benedict and Wizards and Warriors-era Jeff Conaway (RIP).

            Man, my tastes sure have changed!

            1. Killaz   11 years ago

              Poor Jeff, you think that rumor started by his ex is true about him being sexually assaulted by his costar in Grease?

            2. BuSab Agent   11 years ago

              Mine was Leif Garrett. He REALLY hasn’t aged well. But Duncan Regehr was way hotter than Jeff Conaway.

    4. Corning   11 years ago

      I hope he doesn’t get into too much trouble repeating what I have been saying…

      Why are you sending your kid, your own flesh and blood, to a school that you think could have a moonbat left wing bias?

    5. R C Dean   11 years ago

      For example, the use of the other Districts as a source of food/resources by teh government in District 1 is analgous to ancient Sparta

      I don’t think you have to go that far back.

    6. ntolman   11 years ago

      Suzanne Collins is very aware of this. The end of one of the audiobook editions of the final book has section narrated by Collins herself discussing this very thing.

      Another thing of note is how she makes the rebel leadership just as bad, if not worse, than the current regime. The rebels actually seriously suggest continuing the Hunger Games. But using people from the Capitol.

      1. BuSab Agent   11 years ago

        How very French Revolution.

    7. Surly Chef   11 years ago

      Mercantilism, ahem.

  9. The Late P Brooks   11 years ago

    The main event may be a three-on-one interview with Rolling Stone’s Jesse Myerson, author of a controversial piece last week titled “Five Economic Reforms Millennials Should Be Fighting For,” including such gems as “Make Everything Owned By Everybody.”

    Anybody who has ever spent fifteen minutes with a two year old child can see the self-evident truth in this proposal.

    1. Zeb   11 years ago

      Every time I hear someone going on about things collectively owned, I want to ask for my share so I can sell it. If I can’t sell something, then I don’t own it.

      1. BigT   11 years ago

        Sell a kidney lately?

  10. The Late P Brooks   11 years ago

    I can’t imagine how insufferable he must have been in the face of hostile questioning given how smugly defiant he was on Twitter towards critics.

    “Well, that’s just your, like, OPINION, man.”

    1. GILMORE   11 years ago

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVCtkzIXYzQ

  11. Andrew S.   11 years ago

    Matt:

    I will donate $1,000 to Reason at the next fundraiser if he says “You can’t own property, man” and you respond with “I can, but that’s because I’m not a penniless hippie”

    1. Floridian   11 years ago

      I’ll split it with you.

      1. General Butt Naked   11 years ago

        Count me in for $200.

    2. Suthenboy   11 years ago

      I will pitch in…hell i will double it if that is followed by a solid punch in his nose

  12. Wintermute   11 years ago

    TV subscription only 🙁

  13. OldMexican   11 years ago

    The main event may be a three-on-one interview with Rolling Stone’s Jesse Myerson, author of a controversial piece last week titled “Five Economic Reforms Millennials Should Be Fighting For,”

    Okay.

    Why?

    1. Zeb   11 years ago

      Why anything?

      1. GILMORE   11 years ago

        “”Because = it goes well with alcohol, and/or maybe helps getting laid””

        ANSWER TO EVERYTHING!!!*

        *including baseball and house music, things hitherto never explained

  14. BiMonSciFiCon   11 years ago

    and Kmele Foster attempting to explain that “value” is subjective.

    $10 says Myerson has no idea what this means.

  15. OldMexican   11 years ago

    Meanwhile, discussing technology, 9/11, gay marriage and more

    You know, you have been discussing gay marriage in the show for so long now that I am beginning to wonder about you and Kmele….

  16. GILMORE   11 years ago

    I’mm sure Myerson will easily explain how his proposals improve vastly upon the earlier, ‘resulted in a hundred million deaths’ version of socialism.

    1. BiMonSciFiCon   11 years ago

      He doesn’t want gulags. He’s a nice guy. He says so.

      1. B.P.   11 years ago

        Always include in such discussions the question: “What happens if someone doesn’t want to participate in this utopia?”

        1. Killaz   11 years ago

          No gruel for you!

  17. MJGreen   11 years ago

    Oh for fuck’s sake. Why give this blowhard even more exposure? That has to be his whole motivation. He’s just a troll looking for attention.

  18. Killaz   11 years ago

    Matt, ask him, ‘do you think it to be rather problematic to your solution to our economic problems that capitalist own so many of the guns?’

    Any answer he comes up with is guaranteed to drive his kook factor up to 11.

    1. Killaz   11 years ago

      Question might need a little tightening up, ‘problematic’ and ‘problems’, blech! Anyhoot, you’re a professional, you’ll figure it out.

  19. R C Dean   11 years ago

    Make sure to leave your watch, phone, jewelry, etc. behind.

    Then, when the commie starts jabbering about equality and property is theft and all that, tell him you don’t have a watch, and want him to give you his (assuming he has one on).

    Or, even better, reach over, grab his arm, and start taking his watch off.

  20. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

    The main event may be a three-on-one interview with Rolling Stone’s Jesse Myerson, author of a controversial piece last week titled “Five Economic Reforms Millennials Should Be Fighting For,” including such gems as “Make Everything Owned By Everybody.” (Nick Gillespie in these pages called Myerson’s efforts “sad” and “incredibly stupid.”)

    Welch, if you don’t obliterate this asshole I’m never watchin again.

    And why was the Independents link posted at 12:23?

    1. Matt Welch   11 years ago

      I’ve reposted to 8:47 pm! It’s a moving target, this promo stuff.

      1. Sevo   11 years ago

        I was wondering how in hell it got that number of comments.

      2. Ted S.   11 years ago

        Translation: we’re desperately whoring this show!

        :-p

  21. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

    INDEPENDENTS ASSEMBLE!

    1. Corning   11 years ago

      The thread has been spent…so much less fun.

      1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

        It’s back in a big way! Friday night boozin’ and such.

        1. Corning   11 years ago

          Why do I feel like you are Milhouse telling me Alf is back but in pog form?

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as1ItuwGZz8

          1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

            Simpsons in Spanish? That’s practically a rick roll. I remember watching the Simpsons everyday in Costa Rica… A lot of the jokes just don’t translate.

    2. playa manhattan   11 years ago

      Fixed!

    3. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ9nvljscEk

  22. Irish   11 years ago

    Remember the woman who wrote the bizarre article for US News and World Report about how terrible it is that there are so many Catholics on the Supreme Court?

    Here’s an article she wrote a few years ago about how terrible it is that WASPS don’t have enough power in America anymore.

    Instead, we have two Catholics on the presidential tickets, Vice President Joseph Biden and the Republican Veep nominee, Rep. Paul Ryan. The Wisconsin congressman is not my cup of tea, shall we say, partly because he bluntly forces his own religion into our politics. That is not the American way.

    The Supreme Court has no WASPs among nine justices. Catholic men in particular give me pause when it comes to wielding power over the rest of us. Yes, I mean you, “Justice” Antonin Scalia. Catholic men can be the most aggressive enforcers of their private religious beliefs in the public square. Scalia and Ryan are fierce foes of human reproductive rights, determined to chip away at the constitutional right to choose in privacy, enshrined in Roe v. Wade. On the high court, Scalia has zero shame or judicial restraint when it comes to inflicting the boot of his religion on all Americans. Ryan, right across First Street in the Capitol, is taking that fight forward in the legislative branch. It’s called the war on women.

    This woman has a really creepy obsession with Catholics.

  23. Eduard van Haalen   11 years ago

    Small-town Florida cops get big-ass SWAT tank…I mean police cruiser. A police cruiser with six wheels and lots of armor.

    Mark Shea at Patheos has pictures and comments.

    http://shar.es/99us2

    1. Derpetologist   11 years ago

      I’ll just leave this here:

      http://www.political-humor.org…..raffic.jpg

      1. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

        Awesome.

  24. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

    What the fuck? The official late night thread now comes pre-populated with a hundred comments from you lazy fuckers who don’t have to actually work for a living?

    1. GILMORE   11 years ago

      ” …you lazy fuckers who don’t have to actually work for a living?

      You really shouldn’t be so hard on Welch.

  25. GILMORE   11 years ago

    I need a point-scoring system to establish how PWNED Myerson gets.

    1-10?

  26. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Millennials: Generation Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

  27. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

    Did Kennedy just call the guests bastards?

    1. Corning   11 years ago

      Look at how many of them were raised by single moms.

      She was just being accurate.

  28. Derpetologist   11 years ago

    And now for some classic derp:

    I once had a prog tell me that the lower prices of the post office vs. Fedex and UPS are proof that the government is more efficient. He was not aware that private carriers are required by law to charge more and that the post office has a legal monopoly on the delivery of first class mail.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P…..s_Statutes

    1. Irish   11 years ago

      He’s also not taking into account tax subsidies. If you were legally required to give UPS large sums of money out of your taxes every year then their mailing price would be lower even though the cost of the mailing wouldn’t actually be lower.

      1. Sevo   11 years ago

        Darn you, Irish!

    2. Sevo   11 years ago

      “He was not aware that private carriers are required by law to charge more and that the post office has a legal monopoly on the delivery of first class mail.”

      Sounds like he’s also unaware that the taxpayers subsidize the PO.
      It’s easy to make something cheap if you steal the money to make it at gunpoint.

  29. Max Power   11 years ago

    Hey Kennedy, don’t lump me in with those millennials.

    1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

      You mustn’t touch!!!!

      1. Max Power   11 years ago

        I got the name off of a hair dryer.

  30. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

    Frodo.

  31. Bam!   11 years ago

    If this is the panel, I’m already hating it.

  32. Slammer   11 years ago

    Eddie Munster

    1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

      I think she’s hot.

  33. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

    Frodo Baggins–can we trust him and Fellowship of Young Conservatives to destroy the One Ring of Power?

    1. GILMORE   11 years ago

      WIN

  34. GILMORE   11 years ago

    That isnt a young conservative, that’s an abortion that got resuscitated

    Come on, casting. WTF

  35. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    THIS IS DIFFERENT AND I HATE IT.

  36. Slammer   11 years ago

    Snowden’s little sister

  37. Bam!   11 years ago

    1980 to 2000? You can really group all those people together?

    1. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

      That’s what struck me too. I was born in 1991 and I wouldn’t feel a real generational connection with someone who’s 10 years older.

      1. Bobarian   11 years ago

        1980 is too soon to start the Millenials; 1983 to 1985 if you’re going to group people into monolithic chunks.

        1. NotAnotherSkippy   11 years ago

          It’s the stupid idea that a generation is 16-18 years. Tell me that someone born in 1964 has anything in common with someone born in 1980/2. I always thought a generation should be about 10 years. That way someone born in the middle would be about 1 “high school” away from either side.

          1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

            generations are probably now moving faster than anyone is prepared for. You may be right for a while, until 10 years isn’t quick enough.

      2. seguin   11 years ago

        Why do you try and hurt me, Serious?

        I’m hip! I’m with it!

        1. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

          Are we in Tienanmen? Because I see a Square!

      3. SweatingGin   11 years ago

        Let’s put it as “which reasoners are old enough to have other reasoners as their kids”

        I go back and forth on my 1980 friend — millenial or genx (obviously, I view the former as a slander).

        1. Rabban   11 years ago

          Did you ever buy a cassette? If no, then millenial thou art.

  38. Slammer   11 years ago

    Like, technology, totally

  39. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

    I hate that term. Post 9/11.

    1. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

      That’s pre-9/11 mindset.

  40. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Meadow may have become a feminist blogger, but has she learned to parallel park?

    1. Bam!   11 years ago

      Her car does it for her. First world privilege.

    2. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

      You mean patriarchal park, don’t you?

  41. GILMORE   11 years ago

    I think we should probably expect the librul to win because he represents the vast majority of the real Millenials. He has a basement tan, however. Needz moar iron, melanin.

  42. Irish   11 years ago

    Sweet Christ. This is the worst panel. The three dudes are unbelievably creepy.

    1. Slammer   11 years ago

      We’re so fucked

      1. Irish   11 years ago

        I’m a millenial! Why couldn’t they have me on this show?

        I’m more charismatic than any of these bastards.

        1. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

          Why couldn’t they have me on this show?

          Well there’s this posted on the studio entrance.

    2. Corning   11 years ago

      Why do you think Lena Dunham is fucking a 42 year old man on her show?

  43. Slammer   11 years ago

    Sebastian Rea Kim

  44. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Check his papers.

  45. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

    Wait, what channel is the grown-up version of The Independents on tonight?

  46. GILMORE   11 years ago

    I wanted the mexican to just shrug and go…. Que?

    JEEZUS THIS NASS PERSON IS SOME KIND OF SCUMBAG DOUCHE WHO PRACTICES HIS LIES IN FRONT OF A MIRROR

    1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

      He’s the Alan Combs of conservatism. Almost a straw man/retard.

  47. playa manhattan   11 years ago

    What is Stewie Griffin doing in real life?

  48. Slammer   11 years ago

    GET OFF MY LAWN YOU LITTLE SHITS!

  49. Derpetologist   11 years ago

    Need a laugh? This may be Amanda Marcotte’s longest sentence:

    I found the book to mostly be fascinating, especially the second part where Schor conducts a research study on two populations of children, one in the city of Boston and one in a suburb, to see what kind of effect this increasingly commercialization had on the well-being of children, and found strong evidence that kids who watch excessive amounts of TV and otherwise engage in excessive amounts of participation in marketing to children suffered strongly for it both physically and mentally, and more to the point, that the engagement with the commercial culture caused the depression, anti-social behavior, excessive weight gain, lowered grades and other ill effects on children. (109 words)

    Amanda Marcotte graduated summa cum laude from St. Edward’s University with a BA in English literature.

    1. Irish   11 years ago

      I also love that she apparently doesn’t realize the semi-colon exists. Evelyn Waugh and William Faulkner wrote some long ass sentences but they were not difficult to follow because they used semi-colons appropriately.

      Sentences of that length become completely incoherent when you don’t break up the clauses the right way.

      1. Derpetologist   11 years ago

        Every time I read something from her, I am reminded of Fenimore Cooper’s Literary Offenses.

        1. Surly Chef   11 years ago

          Personally, I imagine her reading Orwell’s Why I Write. Upon finishing the essay she utters a hushed “No.”

      2. Eduard van Haalen   11 years ago

        Just say “Kids, it’s a beautiful day out there. It’s too nice to waste time in front of the T.V. Get out of the house and play baseball.”

        1. Ted S.   11 years ago

          Let the kids go outside by themselves? What kind of a monster are you?

          1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

            I’m already dialing CPS.

      3. Ted S.   11 years ago

        Evelyn Waugh and William Faulkner wrote some long ass sentences but they were not difficult to follow because they used semi-colons appropriately.

        “It was the best of times, it was the worst of times” is followed not by a period, but by a semicolon. After that semicolon comes a long set of contrasting pairs, all set off by semicolon, before the first period.

        1. BiMonSciFiCon   11 years ago

          “It was the best of times, it was the blurst of tines?! You stupid monkey!!”

      4. mad libertarian guy   11 years ago

        Nothing wrong with that sentence.

        Stupid long doesn’t mean incoherent or incorrect. It means that whoever wrote is purposefully trying to sound smarter than they probably are.

    2. John C. Randolph   11 years ago

      So, besides all the other reasons to be disgusted with the Head Cheerleader for the Duke Lynch Mob, it turns out that she’s a walking example of grade inflation.

      Never heard of St. Edward’s University before, but it sounds like the kind of place where helicopter parents send their precious snowflakes with the promise of never getting their feelings hurt.

      -jcr

      1. BigT   11 years ago

        For the 11th consecutive year, U.S. News & World Report ranks St. Edward’s University one of “America’s Best Colleges” ? up from #17 to #15 in 2014.

        A Holy Cross univ in Austin TX for marginally educable students.

        Test Scores — 25th / 75th Percentile
        SAT Critical Reading: 510 / 620
        SAT Math: 510 / 610
        SAT Writing: 490 / 603

        1. Lord Peter Wimsey   11 years ago

          St. Edwards is where you go if you want to learn about the goodness of socialism from priests.

          A friend graduated from there. Her faculty advisor told her (she’s a very devout RC), “Buddha, Christ, it really doesn’t matter as long as you redistribute wealth.”

          The current Pope should really pay them a visit.

  50. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

    Achieve rights?

  51. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Cosmotarians!

  52. playa manhattan   11 years ago

    WHERE IS WELCH?!? This whole thing is falling apart. I would like to believe he has something better to do on a Friday night…

    1. Matt Welch   11 years ago

      You rang?

      1. Slammer   11 years ago

        Yay!

      2. playa manhattan   11 years ago

        This is amazing! You just kick out all of the idiots and have an adult discussion!!!

      3. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

        I thought Friday shows were live.

        1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

          Maybe they are. Which would make this all the more magical.

    2. playa manhattan   11 years ago

      Like being on TV…
      Words=eaten

  53. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    HOW CAN MY BATH TUB HAVE A DOOR?

    1. GILMORE   11 years ago

      THATS WHAT WE NEEDED TO WASH THE VIGOR OF YOUTH AWAY = An old man in a hot tub.

  54. Bam!   11 years ago

    Oh thank god, no more millennials.

  55. playa manhattan   11 years ago

    Please tell me somebody else got the commercial about the walk in tub…

    1. GILMORE   11 years ago

      I want a bath to cleanse the memory away

  56. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Did Welch join this show just so he could get a new wardrobe?

    1. GILMORE   11 years ago

      The ‘satan’s cocktail lounge’ outfit has been well-used

  57. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

    The young, really do have justification to despise the old.

    1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

      My dad says that all the time. “God, we really fucked things up! Sorry?”

  58. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

    How long before one of them calls Matt “gramps” ?

  59. GILMORE   11 years ago

    I find the idea of Generational Theft implausible when a) they don’t contribute shit, and b) they vote for the theft to continue every year

    1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

      My kids are too young to vote. So are my future grandkids.

      1. GILMORE   11 years ago

        MILLENIALS IS THE THEME

        Besides, your kids will hate these people more than we do

  60. Max Power   11 years ago

    Mike Rowe looks like a hobo. I like it.

  61. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    They’re going to look at their paycheck and do what everyone else did through time immemorial and complain and then suck it up.

  62. playa manhattan   11 years ago

    Mike Rowe doesn’t believe in “dress codes”!!!

    1. Max Power   11 years ago

      At least he left his bindle backstage.

  63. Derpetologist   11 years ago

    Great smackdown of obnoxious prog Sam Seder:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C_hahGCPkA

    1. Butts Wagner   11 years ago

      Uhhh, uhhh

  64. GILMORE   11 years ago

    Wow, these ads really do make me fear for the future of broadcast jouralism. I mean, the “video game titties!” and “snarky t shirts!” and “strangely inappropriate political ads” on H&R almost make it seem *classier* in contrast.

    1. Corning   11 years ago

      Bring back carpet humping man!!!

  65. GILMORE   11 years ago

    BRING ON THE COMMUNIST AND LET THE BEATINGS BEGIN

  66. Bam!   11 years ago

    Why is Mike Rowe’s shirt inside out?

    1. GILMORE   11 years ago

      Real men go inside-out rather than launder

  67. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Why can’t remote guests ever see their hosts? It’s been basic technology since Netmeeting.

    1. GILMORE   11 years ago

      when not on camera they are being indoctrinated and tortured. Its FOX, dude

  68. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

    I didn’t know the “dirty jobs” guy was a political activist. Interesting.

    1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

      Ahem. Philanthropist. He’s a good dude.

  69. SweatingGin   11 years ago

    Late to the thread…. Kennedy’s ear rings get bigger every episode, don’t they?

    1. Creme Fraiche   11 years ago

      Thanks to someone’s suggestion on Wednesday I am seeing the show for the first time, and her huge earrings were indeed the first thing I noticed

    2. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

      Those aren’t just earrings, they contain the souls of America’s youth, which she harnesses to stay young.

      1. Max Power   11 years ago

        That’s what happened to the millennial panel!

    3. Bam!   11 years ago

      I think she should start screwing with us and increase the size during each commercial break.

    4. John C. Randolph   11 years ago

      I never notice anything besides the stupid retro hipster glasses. Seriously, isn’t that woman earning enough money to get LASIK?

      -jcr

      1. Generic Stranger   11 years ago

        She secretly doesn’t even need corrective eyeglasses; she’s just a closet hipster.

        1. Bam!   11 years ago

          Yes she is.

  70. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

    Put the $100k you were going to spend on your kids education in a retirement fund, and let him be a plumber.

    1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

      Did you watch the Gillespe interview with Mike Rowe? It’s staggering…

  71. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    So let’s build welder robots.

  72. Derpetologist   11 years ago

    Dear Mr. Welch- Could you get a really obnoxious, empty-headed prog like Sam Seder on your show? Pretty please?

    Thom Hartmann is also acceptable.

    1. Max Power   11 years ago

      You’re getting that Rolling Stone communist dingus later.

    2. Byte Me   11 years ago

      To be fair, all progs are obnoxious, and becoming more and more like parodies of themselves every day.

  73. GILMORE   11 years ago

    I must grant Mike Rowe a solid A+ for always seeming sensible and wise through the sheer sonorousness of his voice. Bow to his manliness. He needs to be pitted against a viper pit of Jezebels for entertainment sake

  74. Slammer   11 years ago

    Did you hear how quiet the panel was during Rowe? That says something.

    1. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

      I agree. The sexual tension was palpable.

      1. GILMORE   11 years ago

        Welch was blushing

    2. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

      Mike Rowe is great. Someone should give him his own show.

  75. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Next up: Ron Swanson talks hangover cures.

  76. SweatingGin   11 years ago

    Liberal friend talking about the W.V. water poisoning ‘”Freedom Industries.” Naturally’

    That’s it, guys, I’m out. Totalitarianism for me from now on. Place that dumped poison in the water supply was named Freedom Industries, can’t argue with that.

  77. GILMORE   11 years ago

    Fred Williamson!?? SHAFT!! Damn right.

  78. Bam!   11 years ago

    Oh god, they brought back the millennials.

  79. Slammer   11 years ago

    Goddamit

  80. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

    They’re baaaaack.

    1. Slammer   11 years ago

      1. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

        Well said.

  81. playa manhattan   11 years ago

    Is it a fish eye lens?

  82. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Saving money? Good luck with that. With devaluation, you’re just pissing it away.

  83. Bam!   11 years ago

    He was really proud of himself for dropping in the Paul Ryan budget.

  84. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    THE GOVERNMENT DOESN’T HAVE ANY MONEY.

  85. Max Power   11 years ago

    The conservative guy looks like that dude that was way too into politics in high school.

    1. GILMORE   11 years ago

      Yes, the cliche punk ass kid who runs for office because he’s a teen sociopath.

      1. Max Power   11 years ago

        I bet he tucks in his t-shirts.

  86. SweatingGin   11 years ago

    Okay, full jerk here… where the fuck did they find them?

    Gooble Gobble One of Us Ryan Budget

  87. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

    Is Josh from Young Conservatives the illegitimate son of Bob Filner? His face looks like it’s ill-fitted over the actual face of an alien imposter.

    1. Creme Fraiche   11 years ago

      Ugg. He is totally smug Young Republican guy

  88. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

    Give me free shit for my vagina.

    1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

      I’m sure we can work something out.

    2. Byte Me   11 years ago

      Her level of self gratification when she said that rivaled that of the young republican.

  89. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    She’s going to tell us about reality.

  90. playa manhattan   11 years ago

    Thank you Kennedy.

  91. Derpetologist   11 years ago

    Occupy twit claims right to force people to build a house for him. Then it gets worse.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q5fV6ZlakQ

    1. GILMORE   11 years ago

      Oh god, that’s painful

  92. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

    Soshal contrakt!

  93. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    HE SAID IRS SCANDAL, KENNEDY. Pay attention.

  94. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

    That’s the IRS “scandal”, Kennedy. With quotes.

  95. Slammer   11 years ago

    Millenial Panel Theme Song

  96. Max Power   11 years ago

    Your drone joke wasn’t funny, conservadork.

  97. Irish   11 years ago

    I’ve realized why I despise seeing people from my generation on T.V.

    Everyone under the age of 35 who is involved in politics has this idiotic obsession with looking adult and making the grownups pat them on the back. As a result, you end up with these unbearably pretentious people who aren’t really particularly intelligent, aren’t well read, and aren’t articulate and yet have these smug, condescending looks on their faces at all times.

    They are also completely fucking humorless. You’re in your mid-20’s. Stop being little bitches and say something funny already. No one’s impressed by your ability to scowl for 15 straight minutes.

    1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

      Here’s your trophy for participation, Irish.

      🙂

    2. Corning   11 years ago

      I’ve realized why I despise seeing people from my generation on T.V.

      As much as i love bashing any generation that i am not in:

      They are on TV

      There is a filtering process one needs to pass in order to get on TV.

      I have seen the most hilarious things i have ever seen on youtube all created by “your generation”

      1. Irish   11 years ago

        Yes, there are cool average people in the hinterlands of America who are my age.

        None of those people get involved in politics or blog at feminista.

    3. Derpetologist   11 years ago

      Most young people have a powerful urge for praise and attention. Some people never grow out of this and become celebrities, politicians, or toadies to such.

    4. BigT   11 years ago

      I’ve realized why I despise seeing people from my generation on T.V.

      Everyone over the age of 50 who is involved in politics has this idiotic obsession with looking adult and making the youngster pat them on the back. As a result, you end up with these unbearably pretentious people who aren’t really particularly intelligent, aren’t well read, and aren’t articulate and yet have these smug, condescending looks on their faces at all times.

      They are also completely fucking humorless. You’re in your mid-50’s. Stop being little bitches and say something funny already. No one’s impressed by your ability to scowl for 15 straight minutes.

      I can relate.

  98. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Conservative wants to leave the drones on the table in case some crazy how the GOP gets the White House back.

  99. Bam!   11 years ago

    I hate the guy on the far the left of the panel. He is way too happy with himself.

  100. Corning   11 years ago

    drones and droves

    Its a fucking pun!!

    Do you hear me!!!

  101. Lady Bertrum   11 years ago

    This is painful to watch.

    1. Bam!   11 years ago

      They’re millennials!

    2. Sevo   11 years ago

      I refuse to watch; is this like that unctuous twit in the AT&T ads talking to the 5 year-olds?

      1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

        Not that bad.

  102. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    The role of a social safety hammock.

  103. GILMORE   11 years ago

    Vampire Liberal still only one making any sense. I feel bad for the mexican kid

  104. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Kennedy: The world needs ditch diggers, too.

    1. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

      I’ve often thought of becoming a golf club.

      1. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

        Don’t sell yourself short, Judge. You’re a tremendous slouch.

        1. GILMORE   11 years ago

          YOU’LL GET NOTHING AND LIKE IT

          1. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

            A looper, you know, a caddy, a looper, a jock. So, I tell them I’m a pro jock, and who do you think they give me? The Dalai Lama, himself. Twelfth son of the Lama. The flowing robes, the grace, bald…striking. So, I’m on the first tee with him. I give him the driver, he hauls off and whacks one- big hitter, the Lama- long, into a ten-thousand foot crevice, right at the base of this glacier. And do you know what the Lama says? “Gunga galunga…gunga- gunga lagunga.” So we finish the eighteenth and he’s gonna stiff me. And I say, “Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know?” And he says, “Oh, uh, there won’t be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness.” So I got that goin’ for me, which is nice.

            1. GILMORE   11 years ago

              pool, pond. pond would be good for you.

  105. Bam!   11 years ago

    Please never bring any of those people on again. Thank you.

    1. GILMORE   11 years ago

      seconded

      Except the commie, and then only if you intend to ritually slaughter him on the altar of sanity

  106. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Those dreamcatcher earrings are already bottling that life force. They said so up thread.

  107. Creme Fraiche   11 years ago

    Fuck you Jill, and your everyone needs to go to college shit.

  108. playa manhattan   11 years ago

    Attention producers: I am extremely good looking and argue better than that football faced guy. I can even pretend to be a millennial conservative. Contact my agent.

    1. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

      Yeah, me too. It would also be interesting to have a young, conservative/libertarian parent on the panel since young people get married and have kids too.

      1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

        Are you good looking? Are you really?

        1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

          Josh? What say you, bro?

        2. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

          I’ve gotten much more positive feedback since I’ve grown the beard.

          1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

            They’re just being polite.

            1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

              Unless you have Dave Weigel acne, in which case I say congrats.

              1. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

                One girl once said I resemble Ryan Gosling in terms of facial features. And I honest to God do have a face that looks similar to this:

                http://cdn02.cdn.justjared.com…..ect-03.jpg

                1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

                  I hope you did your duty, then.

                2. John C. Randolph   11 years ago

                  Yeah, but can you pass for straight?

                  -jcr

  109. GILMORE   11 years ago

    That panel would have been more effective with a stoner, a metalhead, a hipster lesbian, and a gangster thug. instead we got kids pretending to know shit about anything and being incredibly unconvincing doing so.

    Now…. BRING ON THE COMMUNIST RETARD, AND GET THE LION CLAWS SHARPENED

    1. Max Power   11 years ago

      Ah! Is that him? He looks weirder than I could have even imagined.

    2. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

      Don’t you forget about me. Don’t don’t don’t don’t Don’t you… forget about me.

      1. GILMORE   11 years ago

        I get the ‘simple minds’ connection….

        1. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

          It’s multi-layered.

          1. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

            (Thusly.)

            1. GILMORE   11 years ago

              Which was in fact a genuinely interesting case-study in generational aspirations.

              GEN X RULES LIKE SAN DIMAS FOOTBALL!!!

  110. GILMORE   11 years ago

    Again = score 1-10 on level of Commie PNWAGE achieved.

  111. Bam!   11 years ago

    Here we go.

    1. Ted S.   11 years ago

      Here we go.

  112. playa manhattan   11 years ago

    Time to drop the nuke.

  113. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

    Shoot you, dick!

  114. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

    It’s called a gun, jackass.

    1. Irish   11 years ago

      What did he say? I’m no longer watching.

      1. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

        You libertarians have a mythical property rights notion. What if I come onto your property and refuse to acknowledge your rights? What then?

        You’d have to call Big Government wouldn’t you!

        1. Byte Me   11 years ago

          Someone should’ve conveyed to him that we do believe in government for the sake of protecting private property rights and enforcing contracts.

          1. SIV   11 years ago

            Who’s this “WE” Kemosabe?

            1. Byte Me   11 years ago

              Meant as a general term.

        2. Gilbert Martin   11 years ago

          I missed the original airing of the show but saw this bit on a re-run today.

          My response would be that I’d just shoot him – which is basically what Kennedy said.

          He replied to Kennedy that she would then go to jail and she said at least she’d own the cell or something like that.

          My response would have been, no I would not go to jail because when I shoot you after you break into my house, I’m going to tell the cops it was self defense and you won’t be around to argue about it.

          I would then follow up with the observation that if it’s OK for him to refuse to acknowledge my right not to be robbed, it’s just as OK for me to refuse to acknowledge his right not to be killed.

          If all rights are an artificial construct, he certainly cannot prove that the latter one is any more inherently more important than the former.

    2. Bam!   11 years ago

      In a world where everyone owns everything, only the commie government owns guns.

  115. GILMORE   11 years ago

    I still score zero… he pre-emptive attacked, made no sense, yet was given a pass…

  116. Slammer   11 years ago

    Molon labe

  117. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    We have an obvious problem here in that you can’t really control things centrally when you just hand out checks.

  118. GILMORE   11 years ago

    His arguments are “my friend has a really good blog”…

    which is maybe to be expected from people whose level of reasoning is limited to tweets

  119. SweatingGin   11 years ago

    “We can do a minimum income, but have to keep some part of the welfare state”

    Oh for fucks sake.

  120. GILMORE   11 years ago

    The nod of concern… to be tactfully used with black people.

  121. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

    “Nature” is just a deified as the concept of God.

  122. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    It’s all write-offs.

    1. Rhywun   11 years ago

      What’s a write-off?

      1. Bam!   11 years ago

        You don’t even know what a write-off is.

        1. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

          But they do, and they’re the ones writing it off.

  123. GILMORE   11 years ago

    I still score zero…. jesus could no one explain that the ‘parks and all the niceties’ he thinks are created by the community are a factor of investment into growing neighborhoods?

  124. Bam!   11 years ago

    Hey commie guy: Just because you’re talking doesn’t mean you’re making a point.

  125. GILMORE   11 years ago

    PLEASE JUST ASK HIM WHO GETS TO CONTROL THE ECONOMY????

    1. Slammer   11 years ago

      Top Men?

  126. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

    YES WE DO WANT TO ATTACK YOU.

    1. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

      AMEN!

      1. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

        Let him talk. I think the guy kind of attacks himself.

        1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

          I agree. I have a vague recollection about rope, length, and hanging, but I can’t quite put the saying together.

          1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

            sounds pretty racist.

  127. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

    That was it?

  128. Max Power   11 years ago

    WTF is he even saying? He’s using a lot of words, but I don’t understand what he’s trying to say aside from COMMUNAL.

  129. GILMORE   11 years ago

    ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG RGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRG GGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSS GSSSSSSSSSSSAAAAAAAAAA

    ZERO

  130. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Give this guy his own show. You can call it I’m an Idiot and I Can Prove It.

  131. playa manhattan   11 years ago

    I appreciate the approach. There needs to be a full episode dedicated to destroying that guy’s ideas.

    1. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

      Agree. He was at least up for the argument.

    2. playa manhattan   11 years ago

      Other people might not see it right away, but after 30 minutes of logic they might…

  132. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

    That was disappointing. WTF? Where is the blood?

    1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

      In due time, my friend.

    2. Bam!   11 years ago

      It’s taking place during the commercial break. Kmele is sitting on him while Kennedy gives him a titty-twister.

    3. playa manhattan   11 years ago

      Also, that guy was enemy #1 last week. I can’t believe he agreed to come on the show.

  133. GILMORE   11 years ago

    Seriously, he got more PWNAGE in the first 10 comments to his RS piece.

    For shame, independents, for SHAME

    1. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

      Kmele did a great job explaining what value is and how prices work and all he could do is just some hand-waving about it.

    2. Corning   11 years ago

      eh

      He was a guest. They have to let him talk.

      1. GILMORE   11 years ago

        Yes,

        Then DESTROY what he says. Not throw him bones like some cute little toy puppy

  134. Corning   11 years ago

    The government built a park!!

    So now your house is communal.

    1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

      You didn’t build that!

  135. GILMORE   11 years ago

    Perhaps these evil libertarians have some longer term plan to use him as some kind of weekly victim…

    … which i would have appreciated if there was even just a *little* blood. Hell, the guy Juan whats his name gets more abused on Fox news every night. And he’s just an establishment Dem.

  136. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Token!

    1. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

      I bet there is a bass guitar in his house.

    2. Corning   11 years ago

      Wait…how old is Kmele?

      1. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

        He’s 53, but he’s like Denzel. Timeless.

  137. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Stuart’s accent classes the joint up.

    1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

      I really like the idea from earlier of having them smoke on the air.

  138. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

    Stuart Varney channeling Austin Powers?

    1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

      He’s channeling my Grandpa. who’s probably watching.

  139. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

    People try to put us dddddown.

    1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

      Talkin bout my medicare!

      1. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

        Hope you die before you get old.

      2. Anonymoose   11 years ago

        Talkin bout my medication!

        1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

          Your website is sleazier than you!

  140. Derpetologist   11 years ago

    Barney Frank defends paying his interns less than the minimum wage:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVMkEPWbwdE

  141. SweatingGin   11 years ago

    I had an epiphany on the way home about just how centralized capital is today. You can see it very obviously in the Bitcoin startups — because BTC is increasing in value so rapidly, you don’t *need* VC for a company. It made me realize just how centralized it is.

    1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

      EconTalk interview with Dallas Fed Pres is well worth listening to. Fed now owns 1/3 of 10 year treasuries, nearly 100% of MBS.

      1. VG Zaytsev   11 years ago

        In a few years they’ll own a majority of state and municipal debt too.

    2. Eduard van Haalen   11 years ago

      What happened to Count Negroni?

      1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

        Francisco and Archduke harassed me enough that I went back.

        1. Wasteland Wanderer   11 years ago

          It was rather obscure.

  142. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Marge Simpson: Are you sure you can get him back for us?

    Deprogrammer: Absolutely. I’m the one who successfully deprogrammed Jane Fonda, you know.

    Marge Simpson: What about Peter Fonda?

    Deprogrammer: Oh, that was a heartbreaker. But I did get Paul McCartney out of Wings.

    Homer: You idiot! He was the most talented one!

  143. Rufus J. Fisk   11 years ago

    so are we drinking?

    1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

      Obviously.

  144. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    And I’m optimistic about watching the state beats these kids down.

    1. Corning   11 years ago

      They are in NY.

      I am thinking one or two of them already have been beat down.

      http://www.lostrepublic.us/Graphics/Mayday wants more government.jpg

      1. Corning   11 years ago

        Sugarfeeeeee for everyone!!!

        *just cut and paste for the link to work.

  145. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

    Treehouse Masters: Temple of Adventure

    Animal Planet

    1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

      Go ahead, tell everyone why…

      1. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

        It’s my grandmother’s house and Brandt Temple is my cousin.

        1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

          I just read the article. Animal Planet paid for it?

          1. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

            Not sure, but I doubt it.

            1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

              It sounds like he sent a proposal, and they accepted it. Not sure how that works, though.

    2. playa manhattan   11 years ago

      “Temple”
      Are you part joo?

      1. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

        My mom’s sister’s kid. Not the family name.

        1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

          I’m just jerking your chain. I would like to state for the record that I am outraged that you are now more famous than Welch and nobody seems to care.

          1. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

            It’s odd seeing that place on teh teevee. I was standing where they are standing last June.

            1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

              Have you seen the final product? Looks pretty good.

              1. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

                No, my cousin didn’t even send out pics. I’m assuming he was under contract, and not allowed until the show aired.

                That was pretty cool.

                1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

                  I went out to dinner, so I’m an hour behind and just finished. Lots of nice touches, and lots of sentiment. Nicely done.

  146. SweatingGin   11 years ago

    AHHH! SUBSTITUTE LOU DOBBS!

  147. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Ah. Not Lou Dobbs.

  148. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

    Hey, it ain’t Lou Dobbs!!

  149. Rufus J. Fisk   11 years ago

    i have a nice buzz from vlad vodka and diet sprite….playing guitar and watching my old bands youtube videos and yelling at the screen

    1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

      if you’re yelling at youtube, it may be more than a buzz.

      1. Rufus J. Fisk   11 years ago

        okay….i am drunk

        1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

          Really, I just wanted to harass your drink choice. I mean, really.

          1. Rufus J. Fisk   11 years ago

            not gonna lie, it terrible….but it is cheap and gets the job done. I have gatorade and vitamins before i go to bed so i feel good in the morning….and as i am making barely 20 grand a year right now i need to be smart and be fiscal with my choices when it comes to getting drunk.

            1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

              Is this you?

    2. GILMORE   11 years ago

      “‘vlad vodka and diet sprite….””

      That’s known as an “Effervescent Gay Vampire”

      1. GILMORE   11 years ago

        see: list of greatest drink names of all time by Hephastos =

        http://www.barmeister.com/drinks/recipe/7221/

        that is the “Santa Bleeding Out In The Weeds Behind A Lynchburg Housing Project”

        2 oz Half and Half
        2 oz Grenadine
        1.50 oz Jeremiah Weed Sweet Tea Vodka
        1 oz Jack Daniel’s Whiskey
        2 oz Strawberry Pucker

        1. Rhywun   11 years ago

          I guess “bleeding out” = “projectile vomiting”?

          1. GILMORE   11 years ago

            You’d be surprised. Some of these retch-inducing recipes are actually half-potable in real form. I’ve tried 3 or 4. Its a fun game to be at a bar and dare people to order at random from his list (which is how I’ve actually tried them)

            1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

              I don’t go into novelty shots, but I think someone brought up the “Brain Hemorrhage” recently.

              There’s always the Smoker’s Cough. Jager and Artisanal Mayonaise.

              1. GILMORE   11 years ago

                Shots? These are full on cocktails. Unless you ‘shoot’ a 10oz glass of likker.

                me personally, I’m a whiskey and beer fella. But I don’t mind the occasional rum punch in summer and white Russian in winter.

                1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

                  Shots? These are full on cocktails. Unless you ‘shoot’ a 10oz glass of likker.

                  Novelty cocktails, then.

                  I can’t imagine savoring anything with pucker.

                2. SweatingGin   11 years ago

                  Shots? These are full on cocktails. Unless you ‘shoot’ a 10oz glass of likker.

                  Novelty cocktails, then.

                  I can’t imagine savoring anything with pucker.

        2. SweatingGin   11 years ago

          My pancreas hurts reading that.

        3. Max Power   11 years ago

          I just got a new vintage cocktail book that’s got some good names in it:

          1. Max Power   11 years ago

            Hey, where are the links? Guess the squirrels drank them.

            Satan’s Whiskers

            1. Max Power   11 years ago

              Monkey Gland

              1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

                Mmmm… Monkey Gland.

                Corpse Reviver #2 (awesome)

                1. Max Power   11 years ago

                  That has the best name. I always mean to make it but I never want to buy Cointreau.

                  1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

                    It’s an excellent drink, not just a novelty.

                    Cointreau is also the secret to awesome margaritas, not that frozen crap down thread.

                    1. Tejicano   11 years ago

                      I prefer the traditional margarita too. But my wife leaves my beer alone if I make it with slush.

                      But I’m not a tourist – no salt on the rim. You only need that if you have no soul and use less than an Anejo or at least a Reposado.

                    2. SweatingGin   11 years ago

                      a real, on the rocks Margarita is awesome. And yea, don’t need salt, or just around half of it, maybe.

                      And a Hemingway Daquiri… (with the cointreau mentioned above) oh, awesome. All summer long.

                      My wife hardly drinks at all, but trusts my judgement when it comes to cocktails now.

                    3. GILMORE   11 years ago

                      I’d drink gimlets more often if the lining of my stomach weren’t already horribly abused by all the spicy food I eat.

                    4. Tejicano   11 years ago

                      My wife drinks anything I drink except for my scotch for some reason.

                      Lime and salt are to kill the bad taste of bad tequila. Stick to the better stuff and it actually tastes good and generally won’t hurt you in the morning.

                      And I wish somebody would kill the Gringo thing of putting lime in Mexican beers. The only time I saw Mexicans doing that was with cans of Tecate. If you’re going to have a Michelada do it proper.

                    5. SweatingGin   11 years ago

                      Oh, I have had good Tequila (Don Julio 1942) — and it’s amazing. Something you can sip like scotch. Tasty. Slightly thick oily feel. Awesome.

                      That said, though, regardless of how good the spirit is, sour cocktails are awesome. Sure, you wouldn’t use a sipping tequila for it, but a tequila sour (basically a margarita) is a damn fine cocktail. as as most combinations of spirit/citrus/sweetener.

                    6. playa manhattan   11 years ago

                      Salt is for beef and vegetables.

    3. Archduke von Pantsfan   11 years ago

      1. Open Beer
      2. Pour.

      1. GILMORE   11 years ago

        +6

        1. Tejicano   11 years ago

          Early night? Why stop there?

          1. playa manhattan   11 years ago

            It’s got to be a pretty early day in Japan. Go for it.

            1. Tejicano   11 years ago

              Sorry – got pulled into a meeting. It’s nearing the end of another Saturday in the office for me. A couple more hours and I will be done for a couple days (Monday holiday here)

              1. Entropy Void   11 years ago

                They celebrate MLK Day a whole week early?

  150. Corning   11 years ago

    Wasn’t Kennedy out of MTV by the time Nirvana got a video up on MTV?

    1. Rufus J. Fisk   11 years ago

      she was around until the mid 90’s

      1. Corning   11 years ago

        I guess I just stopped watching.

        1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

          We all did.

          The way to ask is, did Kennedy leave before or after Real World?

          Is Real World the end of the beginning of MTV? Maybe Remote Control.

          1. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

            I liked Remote Control…

            I’m the reason MTV went to shit.

            1. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

              Well, me and rap.

            2. SweatingGin   11 years ago

              Aren’t we all? Aren’t we all? Tragedy of the commons.

              Tipper Gore warned us, and we didn’t listen.

  151. Derpetologist   11 years ago

    Thought police on patrol:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sUN33U8ZCk

    1. Corning   11 years ago

      How on earth did anyone think this could possibly reach the teen demographic it is targeted at?

      1. Derpetologist   11 years ago

        If there’s one thing teenage boys respect, it’s scolding from squeeky-voiced lesbians.

        If Team Red made an TV ad where youngsters were criticized for saying “Jesus Christ!” it would be national laughingstock.

        I know this because something like it already happened:

        http://www.nocussing.com/

  152. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

    How can I find out how the interview went with Commie Guy?

    1. GILMORE   11 years ago

      Nothing happened. Don’t bother

    2. Corning   11 years ago

      What gilmore said.

      He basically filibustered it and said libertarians should not call the cops.

      1. OldMexican   11 years ago

        The giberish he spewed was the same boring crap you hear from Marxists, so it was more frosting than cake.

      2. mad libertarian guy   11 years ago

        He basically filibustered it and said libertarians should not call the cops.

        I wouldn’t anyways.

        My rules for calling the cops are that it should be done only under two circumstances:

        1) There is a dead body on your property for whatever reason.
        2) You need a police report in order to file an insurance claim after havung been robbed.

        Otherwise the cops should never be called under any circumstances.

  153. Rufus J. Fisk   11 years ago

    alright i am going out to a shitty bar to meet up with a lady….blarg

    1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

      See if you can come up with a more original name while you’re out 🙂

      1. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

        Maybe your lady friend can help. Start by explaining at length that you like to hang out on a libertarian blog.

        1. GILMORE   11 years ago

          I don’t think anyone is that stupid

      2. GILMORE   11 years ago

        “blarg” as far as I understand is internet-speak for ‘my avatar has just died in this multiplayer experience so I must bid you farewell…’

    2. Archduke von Pantsfan   11 years ago

      who is this imposter

      1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

        You can tell because his head isn’t shaped like a football, with that weird split in the middle.

        Gets called out for it every morning.

        1. Archduke von Pantsfan   11 years ago

          Wait, I’ve been away.
          What did you do with the Count?

  154. RishJoMo   11 years ago

    SOujnds like a plan to me dude.

    http://www.AnonGlobal.tk

    1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

      Is it okay if New Rufus takes your handle?

      1. All-Seeing Monocle   11 years ago

        Slap Daddy Jack doesn’t like the sound of that.

        1. Eduard van Haalen   11 years ago

          Jumpin’ Jack Flash is down with it.

  155. Archduke von Pantsfan   11 years ago

    You’ve been warned.

    men with cats

    1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

      So tempted to do 10 minutes of javascript to pick H&R commenter names at random and put them as captions on the pictures.

      1. Archduke von Pantsfan   11 years ago

        Trick Question.
        They’re all Epi.

      2. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

        Be advised: I’m not a cat person and I don’t allow pets inside.

    2. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

      I’M BLIND!

    3. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

      You know, in some of those pictures – no, scratch that – in ALL of those pictures the cats are incidental.

      1. Gene   11 years ago

        Ya think?

  156. Warrren   11 years ago

    Here’s a thing to do:

    List your one most favorite reason that ObamaCare is going to fail.

    Please show your reasoning.

    1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

      write it on your hands, and take a picture, and tweet it out.

      1. Warrren   11 years ago

        NO TWEETING!

  157. Atanarjuat   11 years ago

    Sometimes I wade into the murky swamp of right wing talk radio, but in this case I missed the initial disagreement…but enjoy Tom Woods ripping Mark Levin a new one big enough to drive a Uhaul through.

    1. John C. Randolph   11 years ago

      Personally, I don’t think Dr. Woods should give Levin the publicity.

      -jcr

    2. Cytotoxic   11 years ago

      Levin status: DESTROYED

  158. Creme Fraiche   11 years ago

    Help my wife is drinking all my beer

    1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

      Switch to liquor?

    2. GILMORE   11 years ago

      duh. show your manhood and mount her.

    3. Tejicano   11 years ago

      Learn to make frozen margaritas. That’s the only thing I can do to make my beer supply last a little longer.

      1. Creme Fraiche   11 years ago

        Hmm margaritas, or get her pregnant. That will keep her out of my supply for a while.

    4. Max Power   11 years ago

      You’re lucky. My wife drinks all my whiskey.

      1. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

        I drink all my wife’s whiskey.

        1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

          “On this very special episode of Maury Povich”?

          1. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

            She’s a bourbon connoisseur. She buys expensive hooch for sipping. I don’t sip. She gets pissed, but keeps on buying. Life is good.

            1. GILMORE   11 years ago

              Like Jimmy Carter, I am coveting your wife… in my *mind*

            2. SweatingGin   11 years ago

              well done, sir.

              I’m pretty sure my wife gets drunk off my breath some nights.

            3. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

              I think I married well.

              1. Creme Fraiche   11 years ago

                Truth be told. It’s nice to have a nice a wife that enjoys the homebrew. Can’t wait until we move to a place where I can do that again.

              2. GILMORE   11 years ago

                Bourbon ‘connoisseur’, eh?

                I could probably live happy without any of the fancy stuff, thinking Bulleit is pretty good almost all the time for most things…

                Every now and then = blantons, eagle rare. Like, with cigars, after some really good meat.

                1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

                  I’ve gotten really into ryes lately. Redemption rye is my current favorite (drinking it in a Sazerac, at the moment). Buffalo Trace has been my go-to bourbon. Bulleit bourbon is nice, too. I was all-Maker’s for a long time.

                  1. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

                    I’m drinking Buffalo Trace as we type. That and W.L. Weller (same distillery) are my “get drunk” bourbons.

                  2. Max Power   11 years ago

                    I’ve got some Bulleit rye right now, but I really like the Rittenhouse rye for sazeracs and other cocktails.

                    1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

                      Rittenhouse is just fine, too. Really, of all the things calling themselves rye, the only one I had trouble with was the one I made in my basement (kinda papery.)

                  3. GILMORE   11 years ago

                    if I were comatose in an ER, and some tech were to check for my blood type, there’d be an awkward moment where they’d go, “Doc…you’re not going to believe this… but I think he’s running on 1/3 Makers Mark. And that’s normal operating fluids.”

                    1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

                      Remember when Maker’s 46 came out?

                      My oh-shit-time-to-cut-back moment was when I went into the liquor store, and the owner said “Maker’s 46? Have you tried this yet? You’re the the first one I thought of!”

                      I don’t go there anymore.

                2. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

                  I like Rare Eagle, but my new favoritest bourbon is Parker’s Heritage Collection (133.2). Good shit!

                  1. Max Power   11 years ago

                    I got some Michters US1 American Whiskey a few weeks ago that I really liked.

                    1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

                      Have to check that out, from the designation, I figured it was a CA one, glad I checked the website.

                    2. Max Power   11 years ago

                      My sister bought me one of those little oak barrels that you can use to age your own spirits. I’ve been trying to decide what to put in it, anyone have any suggestions?

                    3. SweatingGin   11 years ago

                      whiskey, of course. My dad got me one of those for my birthday last year, from Grand Traverse brewing company. 3 liters of white dog to put in it. Came out as a little over 2 liters?

                      good, but paper-y tasting.

                      I have more whitedog to start a batch of bourbon with, need to get some distilled water and get the barrel ready again.

                    4. Max Power   11 years ago

                      I thought about putting in some gin or something different, but I should probably just do whiskey since that’s what I like the best. Or making a giant cocktail and then aging it in the barrel. I had a barrel-aged negroni one time that was pretty good.

                    5. SweatingGin   11 years ago

                      go for rye or bourbon. Fine gins (beefeater 24) are aged 24 hours on various herbs, not in a barrel.

                      Now: what you can do, is use it first for rye, then bourbon, then a pre-made cocktail.

    5. WPIAGROTJB   11 years ago

      And that’s a problem?

  159. Archduke von Pantsfan   11 years ago

    It is more than 100km wide and its fluorescent blue sheen has been spotted by NASA satellites in the south-eastern Indian Ocean.

    1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

      I was glad to see it wasn’t a raft. I assumed it was a raft.

    2. VG Zaytsev   11 years ago

      It’s Valerie Jarrett’s mother ship / colony.

  160. SweatingGin   11 years ago

    Oh, awesome moment at work this morning. Co-worker (millenial) that is way younger than I realize mentioned that he was listening to proletariat radio this morning, and was completely disgusted with the interview with NSA deputy director.

    This is someone who leans libertarian, except “For the children”.

    I responded with “state media is broadcasting propaganda?!? Say it ain’t so?!?”

  161. Max Power   11 years ago

    Jason Isbell and Neko Case on Austin City Limits.

    1. An Innocent Man   11 years ago

      +1 Drive-by-Truckers

    2. GILMORE   11 years ago

      neko case is pretty dope.

      I liked her tune with Crooked Fingers =

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcAty0w-ruM

      1. Max Power   11 years ago

        Yeah, I like this song too. This whole Crooked Fingers album is great, and I discovered it because of my policy of buying anything that Neko Case sings on.

  162. Sevo   11 years ago

    So the RS commie twit got a pass? They didn’t rip out his intestines and strangle him with them?

    1. GILMORE   11 years ago

      please, don’t make us relive this disappointment.

      You have no idea how much my expectations were dashed

      1. Sevo   11 years ago

        That guy deserved to be fricasseed and basted with hot lard.
        OK, Cato’s ’13 contribution took it in the shorts over their A2 ‘commitment’. If this “Independents” stuff turns out to be just a chance to get a mug on the tube rather than get a point across, well…

  163. Archduke von Pantsfan   11 years ago

    The invasion of the US by Canada is continuing unabated.

    1. Creme Fraiche   11 years ago

      Canadian squirrels?

    2. SweatingGin   11 years ago

      gesundheit.

    3. Archduke von Pantsfan   11 years ago

      GOTTERDAMMUNG

      1. Creme Fraiche   11 years ago

        I bet North Carolina is at the bottom of both attendance lists

      2. SweatingGin   11 years ago

        I’m still pissed about the lockout. Didn’t even watch the winter classic with Wings/Leafs. I was planning to go to it before the lockout.

        Also pissed about the year HNIC/the NHL had Alanis Morrisette open the season. Partly made up for with the Neal Peart season.

        1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

          HNIC Theme as Grapes meant it.

    4. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

      Something to fear, I see.

    5. Entropy Void   11 years ago

      If only they would bring proper toilets with them.

      Hey, do you guys still have decent light bulbs, er, I mean 100 watt glass-encased heating elements?

  164. WPIAGROTJB   11 years ago

    No one mentioned Jesse Myerson’s Eskimo connection. In fact, Rolling Stone has been a project of the Eskimos for decades. They love the word “Youth,” yet I’m sure the average reader is a sixty year old Eskimo. Yet Gillepse, a clueless non-Eskimo, goes along with it as if it were legitimate and not an Eskimo front.

  165. Archduke von Pantsfan   11 years ago

    Infographic: If you know a Cisgender Person

    1. WPIAGROTJB   11 years ago

      These trannies are the last politically correct group of people for you libertarians to bash. The Eskimos have already banned you from bashing the Blacks, the Mexicans, the Muslims, even the homosexuals. But you won’t be able to bash them forever. The Eskimos are moving to normalize all perversion, and that even goes as far as that.

      1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

        That you, Mary?

        1. Creme Fraiche   11 years ago

          Is Mary like Murikan?

          1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

            way worse. You haven’t seen a troll like Mary.

            Murkin just writes racist stuff hoping someone will agree with him. Mary makes thousand post flame wars.

            1. seguin   11 years ago

              Mary’s posts skirt the line of madness. I think if you string them all together and pick out every third word, it describes how to open a portal to the realm of the Elder Gods.

              Just a theory.

    2. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

      I have absolutely no fucking idea what a “Cisgender Person” is.

      Googling.

      1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

        I’ll get you some pillows and tea.

      2. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

        Huh, normal. Go figure.

      3. SweatingGin   11 years ago

        There’s a shitstorm waiting if you dig too deep into that world.

      4. John C. Randolph   11 years ago

        You and I would call such a person “normal”.

        -jcr

  166. SweatingGin   11 years ago

    Via Lucy’s twitter: Ted Cruz bitching about legalization

    Actually watched the video. Started liking him less, ended less opposed.

    Meh.

    1. Irish   11 years ago

      Cruz’s argument isn’t that pot users should be jailed, it’s that the president should uphold the law.

      The problem is, I don’t think that the federal government has the authority to pass a drug ban without a constitutional amendment anyway. If Cruz really believes in federalism, he should believe the government should stay out of that and leave it to the states.

      Without an amendment actually giving them the power to ban these things, the entire Controlled Substances Act is clearly unconstitutional.

      1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

        Pretty much my take on it, too. Also might be influenced by who he is speaking to.

        It’s a nice reminder that it’s still an uphill fight.

      2. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

        Anyone else find it interesting that in 1920 there was no question in anyone’s mind that banning alcohol required a constitutional amendment and by 1937 no one questioned the government’s authority to ban pot on their own?

        Anything happen in that span of time to explaining such a change?

        1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

          Yes; No.

          OT: What I miss about wiegle? Prog Rock Fridays

          1. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

            I must have missed it too.

            How about FDR?

            1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

              Fuck you, Fuck Wiegle, Fuck FDR.

              No idea where that rant was going, but I’m sure it was awesome.

        2. John C. Randolph   11 years ago

          Banning alcohol affected whites. Banning pot affected Latinos.

          Many years before alcohol prohibition, nobody batted an eyelash when California banned Opium (Chinese used it, very few whites did.)

          See the pattern?

          Marijuana is getting legalized again because a majority of progs want to get high.

          -jcr

      3. mad libertarian guy   11 years ago

        Cruz’s argument isn’t that pot users should be jailed, it’s that the president should uphold the law.

        That’s the conclusion I came to as well. And he’s right. The president shouldn’t have the power to rule by fiat.

        1. Cytotoxic   11 years ago

          The executive has every right to make priorities and give amnesty.

    2. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

      Perhaps if Teddy is so obsessed with the law he might want to start with the 10th amendment and work his way down?

      Just a thought.

  167. Francisco d Anconia   11 years ago

    Nighty-night Reasonoids.

  168. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

    Where do you score on the Psychopath test?

    1. SweatingGin   11 years ago

      I don’t want to talk about it.

      1. The Rt. Hon. Serious Man, Visc   11 years ago

        Based on the test scale, Charles Dickens was literally worse than Hitler.

    2. Corning   11 years ago

      The first question pissed me off so I didn’t do it.

      1. Lord Peter Wimsey   11 years ago

        It’s bullshit. It said I have a well-developed social conscience, evidently because I don’t plan to fuck around on my wife and I don’t think everyone else is to blame for a fuck up.

        What drivel. I don’t like to see animals tortured but I have very little social conscience where adult humans are concerned.

        My score: 38% It did say I should watch out for the rest of you fuckers. Just sayin’.

    3. Killaz   11 years ago

      58% Though your conscience is in the right place you also have a pragmatic streak and generally aren’t afraid to do your own dirty work! You’re no shrinking violet – but no daredevil either. You generally have little trouble seeing things from another person’s perspective but, at the same time, are no pushover. ‘Everything in moderation ? including moderation’ might sum up your approach to life.

      1. VG Zaytsev   11 years ago

        That was the same line I got with a 48%

        1. Capt. Rimmer   11 years ago

          I’m going to pick what I think will get me 100% and report back.

          1. Wandering Texan   11 years ago

            I came in at 76%. I suppose I’m a bit self interested…

    4. SusanM   11 years ago

      I wonder how much your preferred news outlet changes your score.

  169. SweatingGin   11 years ago

    Count Negroni didn’t cut it, could I call myself Gershon?

  170. RishJoMo   11 years ago

    Sounds pretty solid to me dude.

    http://www.AnonPlanet.tk

  171. RishJoMo   11 years ago

    Slap Daddy Dojo is not going to like that.

    http://www.Anon-Global.tk

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