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Jeb Bush: 'It is not [immigration] law enforcement but the law itself that is broken'

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"There is no 'line.'"

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and Goldwater Institute Vice President Clint Bolick have a new book out, called Immigration Wars: Forging an American Solution. An excerpt in today's Wall Street Journal contains a point that somehow goes missing in most of our emotion-choked discourse on the issue: "The best way to prevent illegal immigration is to make sure that we have a fair and workable system of legal immigration." Who'da thunk?

Excerpt:

It is not law enforcement but the law itself that is broken. The nation has changed dramatically since the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, and that legislation has not held up well. It has been patched over so many times that it is hopelessly complex and incoherent. We need to start from scratch. […]

There is no "line." Critics of comprehensive reform often argue that illegal immigrants should return to their native countries and wait in line like everyone else who wants to come to America. But unless they have relatives in the U.S. or can fit within the limited number of work-based visas, no line exists for such individuals.

For most aspiring immigrants, the only means of legal admission to this country is an annual "diversity lottery" that randomly awards visas to 55,000 foreigners. There are roughly 250 applicants for each visa every year. The absence of a meaningful avenue of access increases the pressure for illegal immigration.

We're younger than that now

Preach it, Brother Bush.

Sadly, the always-timely observation that over-criminalization breeds lawbreakers and thus should occasion re-writing the law, does not, for Bush/Bolick, extend to the Drug War:

The far greater border-security threat is paramilitaristic drug cartels that often are also involved in human smuggling, increasingly from Central American countries. The U.S. needs to coordinate closely with Mexico and focus its resources on defeating the cartels.

The cartels are indeed terrible, but organized crime always flourishes wherever the law forbids millions of humans from pursuing happiness how they see fit.

Read Reason's special August 2006 issue on immigration here.

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  1. There is no “line.” Critics of comprehensive reform often argue that illegal immigrants should return to their native countries and wait in line like everyone else who wants to come to America. But unless they have relatives in the U.S. or can fit within the limited number of work-based visas, no line exists for such individuals.

    But that is the malarkey that has been pushed by the xenophobic “conservatives” and nativists – that if people just got in line like everybody else, then they will get their chance.

    I know what that “line” looks like, and it looks like just another protectionist scheme created by cronies and people unfamiliar with even the most basic of economics. It’s nothing more than a thinly-disguised barrier of entry, but one so cruel, so ridiculously out of touch with reality and so rights-violating, it ends up being olympically ignored.

    The fact is that immigration greatly increases the productive machine that is the Division of Labor; most immigrants come for the sole purpose to work and prosper, and work they find precisely because in between all the protectionist schemes created by the U.S. government, the most pervasive and destructive to the right of contract and property rights is the so-called Minimum Wage. Add to the stinking pile FICA, FUTA, labor laws and other impediments to production and you will wonder no more why there’s such a demand for more affordable labor.

    1. But, but, but… Living wage! Corporate profits! Trade deficits!

    2. Letting (for example) mexicans cross freely back and forth for work, commerce,tourism,etc would do more to boost our economy than anything else Washington could do.

    3. So we should reduce wages to what 50 cents an hour? That would be a good wage to a Nigerian slum dweller. Answer the question.

      1. Question answered.

        You are an ignoramus.

      2. You do know that unemployment is very high among young people, don’t you? Would you hazard a guess as to why?

      3. What an odd handle you have given your opinions. Was Slavery taken?

      4. Re: Liberty,

        So we should reduce wages to what 50 cents an hour?

        Why 50 cents an hour? What’s your rationale?

        1. As you say, the market sets the price. Most Africans live on less than a dollar a day, I’m probably being generous.

      5. So we should reduce wages to what 50 cents an hour?

        You do understand that in a free society, “we” don’t set wages to anything, don’t you?

        1. And what is the advantage of such a “free society?”

    4. So you want a nation of NAMs with no minimum wage? There are already several countries like that I suggest you check them out.

      1. Daddy, I don’t want you to put your thing in me. It hurts. Daddy! Stop! It hurts, Daddy! Why? DADDY! STOP!

        1. Haha, wow that’s funny. Someone has some time on their hands :

    5. I won’t disagree with you, because you make strong points. But the problem is compounded by an establishment Left that has no interest in fixing the basic flaws in the law. I don’t KNOW why this is so, but I have strong suspicions; I think it is because the Left is institutionally inclined to a body of Law that basically forbids everything, combined with a State that has the authority to make exceptions on a case by case basis. This is the Government run by Experts that the Western Intellectual Left has lusted for since at least 1815.

      So we have one Establishment that promotes an unfair law because sit is to their advantage and another Establishment that has no interest in making the law fair because they want all ‘fairness’ to emanate from their wonderful selves. And the illegal immigrant population trapped in the middle.

  2. Bush is laying the down the GOP latino strategy for 2016.

    1. I’m sure he will do just as well as McCain did among Hispanics. The group clearly favors socialism, as repeated opinion polls show.

      1. Daddy, I don’t like it when you touch my private place. It makes me feel bad. I don’t like it. Daddy, please listen to me. Daddy, stop! Please!

        1. This is why there are no child libertarians.

      2. Ever meet Jeb’s wife, dipshit?

        1. The jewel thief? What about her?

      3. I’m sure he will do just as well as McCain did among Hispanics.

        If Romney did that he’d be President. So maybe it’s worth looking into.

        1. No, he wouldn’t.

  3. Cosmotarians! The lot of you! Advocating for the free movement of goods, services, people and labor! You make me sick!

    BORDERS, LANGUAGE, CULTURE!

    1. Sad, I can’t tell if this is satire of Dr. Savage or not.

      1. I’m not sure. I also always wondered if BORDERS, LANGUAGE, CULTURE! was a paraphrase of or inspired by BLUT UND BODEN!

  4. Also you guys there are some people who don’t want to live in the US permanently, but just want to work here for a while and send money to their families and then go back home after a few months or years. So maybe some laws that recognize that reality?

    1. If they want to leave they’re welcome to.

    2. 330-day visa.

      Insert SLD liberally, but its my compromise idea.

      No quotas, easy to get work visa that lasts for 330 days. Any time up to that, you can leave, turn it in, and can get another after 30 days.

      I could see most H1B visa holders getting it instead, isnt tied to any job or other limits, its a wide open “come work legally in America without any permanence or citizenship path” visa.

      1. It’d be useless without a way to enforce it, and we lack that currently, not because we can’t do it but because it wouldn’t be “humane” or something.

        1. Daddy, please! I don’t want to touch your thing. It’s yucky.

    3. Yeah, Hugh, we call those people JERB TAKERS!!! Why do you hate ‘Muricans, Hugh?

  5. Jeb, Jeb, Jeb. You and Mitch Daniels are the ones I think we will miss the most.

    1. No one should ever miss a Bush.

  6. Everybody axcts like the problem is only “illegal immigration” because “they’re breaking the law,” or something. But a majority of White Americans don’t want legal NAM immigration either. Jobs are still taken, prices still rise, criminality still rises, welfare use will still rise.

    1. No more Irish or Pollacks!

      1. I really don’t see what a immigrants from a thousand years ago have to do with NAMs today. Different immigrants, different economy, different society.

        1. If they were wrong, maybe you are too.

      2. It’s a sockpuppet, Brett! As near as I can tell, this one’s only purpose is to make Tony look rational and intelligent by comparison.

        1. This one is a particularly racist shitbag.

          1. That’s ok. The racist shitbags are usually a lot smarter than the regular commenters.

    2. Re: Liberty,

      But a majority of White Americans don’t want legal NAM immigration either. Jobs are still taken, prices still rise, criminality still rises, welfare use will still rise.

      If that is true – that white Americans think that prices rise if immigration rises – it would only mean that the Amerikan Pulbic Skool Seistem Dat Teeches Childrun To Red and Writ has been successful in turning them into economics-ignorant zombies. Is that the fault of the immigrants, though? I ask you.

      1. Most Americans have some knowledge of supply and demand. They understand that the NAMs demand but don’t increase the supply of jack.

        1. Someone failed basic economics

  7. Open borders or a welfare state. Pick one, because you can’t have both.

    1. Open borders and a closed welfare system. Done.

      1. I’ll have unicorns in my fantasy world.

        1. Three things are needed to get most of benefit of open borders and a closed welfare system:

          1. The welfare reform act of 1996.
          2. Children, even citizen children, are on the welfare schedule of their parents.
          3. Lax enforcement of immigration law against peaceable illegals.

          Prior to 9/11, we pretty much had #1 and #3. Yes, it would be better if the US handed out unlimited visas for unlimited residence under the constraints of no welfare for you and your children and no path to citizenship. But, barring that, the addition of #2 and the return to #3 would give you open borders and a closed welfare system.

      2. Open borders and a closed welfare system. Done.

        Fuck off, globalist scum. The only way you could have this society is if you abolished the American nation itself. Funnily enough, your lolbertarian fantasies won’t survive without the American nation backing them up.

        1. By what mechanism does this abolish the American nation?

          Indeed, it is the American nation — that is, the institutions and rule of law protecting the freedoms of the residents of the US — that bring the immigrants.

          Limit their paths to citizenship however you want. Just allow them the freedom to exercise their unalienable right to live and work where they can find agreeable accommodations.

          1. By what mechanism does this abolish the American nation?

            Open borders cannot exist within a nation. Open borders defies a nation.

            Just allow them the freedom to exercise their unalienable right to live and work where they can find agreeable accommodations.

            This will very quickly turn the residents of the nation against them, and they will vote them out for undermining the prosperity of the working class.

            1. Open borders cannot exist within a nation. Open borders defies a nation.

              That must come as a surprise to the first 150 years of the US.

              This will very quickly turn the residents of the nation against them, and they will vote them out for undermining the prosperity of the working class.

              They already have voted them out for purportedly undermining the prosperity of the working class. That’s what most of immigration law is: raw protectionism.

              Perhaps they should (a) learn some economics and/or (b) give some modicum of moral credence to the unalienable rights of all men — regardless of where they were born.

            2. “Open borders cannot exist within a nation. Open borders defies a nation.”

              Saying something is true doesn’t make it true.

              “This will very quickly turn the residents of the nation against them, and they will vote them out for undermining the prosperity of the working class.”

              THEY TOOK ER JERBS!

  8. Love the picture of the old immigrants we all will be prone to think of as Jews. I have no problem with Jewish immigration, we should do all we can to encourage it.

    1. Daddy, your thing tastes yucky in my mouth. I don’t want to do that. Daddy! Stop! Please….I’m choking! DADDY! STOP!

    2. I thought you were all about opposing socialism (which to you, means opposing socialism as long as it is brought about by Democrats). Jews vote Democrat in equal or greater numbers than Hispanics, as do Asians

      1. I’m pretty sure’s he’s being facetious. From what I can tell, he’s a paleocon in the vein of Fleming (who is a bit of an anti-Semite).

  9. I just wish I could find a decent Mexican restaurant.

    1. Go into a few and look around. Stop and eat at one when you see Mexicans eating there.

  10. diversity lottery”

    WTF?

  11. OK, here’s my idea for an immigration policy. Foreigner goes into an office at the US embassy or consulate, blood is drawn for a contagious disease test, name is run through the crime databases (FBI, Interpol, etc.) Assuming clean bill of health and no warrants, he gets a photo ID and gets a SS number so he can pay taxes once he starts working. No time limits, no other restrictions. He pays the same taxes we all do, has the same rights and responsibilities. Except he cannot vote or hold political office.

    Maybe throw in an entry fee of a not insignificant sum. Might as well add to the Treasury.

    1. You mean emulate the Canadians? Isn’t that like… icky?

  12. LOL, the good ol’ Bush pseudocons. We gotta reform immigration! (That means you get to deal with the immigrants pouring into your state, voting for more entitlements and government spending, living in poverty, committing crimes, and otherwise ruining your nice neighborhoods. Thanks, cosmatarians!

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