Obama's $4 Trillion 'Balanced' Debt Plan Is a $2 Trillion Plan That's Mostly Tax Hikes
Here's President Obama's second term sales pitch to voters concerned about federal debt and deficit levels: A $4.3 trillion debt-reduction plan that he says is composed largely of spending cuts balanced by tax hikes.
Here's what's he's actually offering: a sub-$2 trillion debt reduction package that is composed almost entirely of tax hikes.
In an interview with The Des Moines Register earlier this week, President Obama described what he thought were the prospects for a big budget deal in the early part of a potential second term. "It will probably be messy," he said. "It won't be pleasant. But I am absolutely confident that we can get what is the equivalent of the grand bargain that essentially I've been offering to the Republicans for a very long time, which is $2.50 worth of cuts for every dollar in spending, and work to reduce the costs of our health care programs."
The president went on to suggest that such a deal could help the federal government start digging its way out of the deep debt hole it's currently in. "And we can easily meet — 'easily' is the wrong word — we can credibly meet the target that the Bowles-Simpson Commission established of $4 trillion in deficit reduction, and even more in the out-years, and we can stabilize our deficit-to-GDP ratio in a way that is really going to be a good foundation for long-term growth."
Here's the thing. That $4 trillion debt plan he's offered so far? It doesn't actually reduce deficits by $4 trillion. That's because it's packed with budget savings gimmicks.
The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget (CRFB) explains: "To reach his $4.3 trillion in savings through 2021, the President's budget counts $1.6 trillion (excluding interest) of already-enacted savings. In addition, it includes two elements which the Fiscal Commission assumed in its baseline – a drawdown of the wars ($740 billion through 2021) and the expiration of the upper-income tax cuts ($830 billion through 2021)." Overall, the CRFB analysis says, Obama's budget "falls well short of the $4 trillion in savings claimed by the [Simpson-Bowles] Fiscal Commission." CRFB estimates that it would save a little less than $2 trillion instead.
This isn't a lonely opinion either. As The Washington Post's Fact Checker Glenn Kessler wrote in September, "virtually no serious budget analyst" accepts the president's $4 trillion deficit reduction figure. And when Obama's campaign team has been asked about this, they've struggled to explain how their numbers actually work. That's hardly what I'd call "credible."
What about the $2 trillion in deficit reduction the plan can claim to put on the scoreboard? It comes almost entirely tax increases. As James Pethokoukis of the American Enterprise Institute shows, the plan would result in about $1.735 trillion in tax hikes — and just $230 billion in spending cuts, the vast majority of which are cuts to health care provider reimbursements of dubious long-term value.
That's Obama's idea of a grand bargain. Not $4 trillion in deficit reduction weighted toward spending cuts, but $2 trillion worth deficit reduction produced almost entirely by tax hikes. Maybe that's not surprising, though, from a politician who repeatedly promised deficit reduction in his first presidential campaign and then as president continued to insist that the country was on track to cut the deficit in half even while running record high deficits.
Over the last month, Obama has made much of GOP rival Mitt Romney's flaky tax math and the dubious reliability of his opponent's policy plans overall. And in a Rolling Stone interview released this week, he called Romney a "bullshitter." Takes one to know one?
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If we take only the second and fifth words on that sign, it seems a pretty accurate summary of BHO's policies.
Just go ahead and find another word to add in there so you can call his plan three-fifths of a plan you ratfucking racist!!!111!1111!!
Calling it a "debt plan" is very accurate also.
hit & run!
hit & run!
What the fuck!? &
&
Wow.
Is the & back?
He's like a boa constrictor squeezing his prey until it dies. Then he consumes it.
So Obama is full of shit. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm SHOCKED.
I know, so much emotion invested into him being the perfect being, now nothing. What can I do? Who do I turn to now? I need a new living god!
[coughs modestly]
I'm not worshiping another attorney. That's why I don't pray to Gandhi.
Well, that, and him being Hitler and all.
Have you considered Gozer or Zuul? Or possibly Hare Krishna?
The Amida Buddha would smite you, but he is too blissful.
The Buddha smites? I never saw him as one who was into smiting.
Nope - too blissful to smite, hence Epi's safety is assured.
Nirvana is about snuffing out the self, not about smiting. Though how that's different than being snuffed out by smiting is unclear to me at this time.
Gozer, Dude's a loser, I mean anyone who gets their ass kicked by Dan Akyriod is not worthy of worship.
Gozer explains.
Behold the god who bleeds!
Duke Teer?
Well, Barack, you took your calculated risk and your calculated Vulcan way, and you lost! You lost for us, you lost for that planet, and you lost for Jim.
Yes, yes, that encapsulates my reaction. Well, not my reaction, I was making that up. But what should be the reaction of his adherents.
Oh, and I AM KIROK!
*Throws rock*
/alien abducted Souix
Kirrrk. Help me, Kirk
/Abe Lincoln
joins me in the wasteland where you will get all the guzzoline you will ever need.
I waiting for his views on deep dish pizza to essentially cause the comments here to degenerate in to a vitriolic smorgasbord of offensively delightful character deconstructions.
Well, this has been discussed. I believe the consensus is that Obama is a deep-disher, being from Chicago and all. Which I readily admit is a huge blow to my cause, Obama tainting all that he touches.
Dr. ProL. Again we see there is nothing you can possess which I cannot take away.
How odd that it should end this way for us after so many stimulating encounters. I almost regret it. Where shall I find a new adversary so close to my own level?
Try the local sewer.
Who knows? In a thousand years, even you may be worth something.
You want to talk to God? Let's go see him together, I've got nothing better to do.
I am but a shadowy reflection of you. It would take only a nudge to make you like me. To push you out of the light.
Deep dish pizza isn't pizza. It's casserole, with some soggy pizza crust underneath.
Heretic. If you want a cracker with some sauce and cheese, go find an appetizer plate!
Besides, a stuffed pizza is even better than deep dish!
KILL THE BLASPHEMER
HOLY WAR!!!
FUCK YEAH! Red-stuffed pizza for the win!
I read that as red-shirt pizza.
My mom used to make deep dish pizza with unrolled Pillsbury Crescent rolls. It was...adequate.
Why would anyone care?
We all think that there's absolutely no difference between Obama/Biden and Romney/Ryan, anyway, right?
I don't think there's no difference. I think there isn't enough difference.
I think whatever difference there is between the two tickets is primarily the undercard. Paul Ryan for all his faults is one of the only people who has been serious about addressing entitlements, even if his plans are far too modest to actually fix the problem in a meaningful way (which I think is a function of political reality rather than actual policy preference). Although I wouldn't necessarily vote for him, I'd be content to see him become POTUS as he'd be better than most with any realistic shot.
Of course there are differences:
Obama reminds me of every smug professor I had in University.
Biden reminds me of the creepy uncle I used to avoid.
OTOH
Romney reminds me of every real estate salesman I ever met.
Ryan reminds me of every "Manager's Special Assistant" who was being fast-tracked for the promotion you worked to earn.
I don't know, I've never met a real estate salesman who wanted to throw me in prison for smoking a joint.
Try sparking up while they're showing you a house.
I have. If you're a serious buyer, they turn into rastafarians pretty quick. But maybe that's just in Colorado.
Yo, wastoid, you're not going to blaze up in here!
I will gladly cut $2.50 of spending on Tuesday for every dollar of tax increase today.
Well Obama really wanted to quadruple the size of the federal budget, but thanks to the reTHUGlicans he's only been able to double it, therefore under his administration the budget has been cut in half.
With that kind of reckless austerity no wonder the economy hasn't picked up!
The taxes will increase until the economy improves...
"we can stabilize our deficit-to-GDP ratio"
And right there is the problem.
Stabilizing your deficit to GDP ratio means eternally taking on NEW debt and an ever increasing Debt to GRP ratio.
It doesn't even take 7th grade math to show how this is simply not sustainable over the long term. If you start with 0 debt and a Deficit to GDP ratio that was fixed at .2 and you had 3% average annual inflation then your debt to GDP ratio would increase from 0 to almost 5 over the course of 40 years.
Further as the costs to service that debt grew you would be forced to cut services to cover the interest payments and maintain a fixed Deficit to GDP ratio.
Stabilizing your deficit to GDP ratio means eternally taking on NEW debt and an ever increasing Debt to GRP ratio.
Beyond that, as resident scholar RC Dean has pointed out repeatedly, that deficit to GDP metric will be violently destroyed when interest rates revert to the mean and debt service balloons from $250b/year to $900b/year.
Right--basically, you come up with this:
http://market-ticker.org/uploa.....spread.png
And, as is typical, I hear not a word about this attempted fraud from the spectacularly inept Romney campaign.
"President Obama claims to have a $4 trillion deficit reduction plan. What he really has is a plan to impose 1 and three quarter trillion, that's trillion with a "t" and 12, count 'em 12, zeros.
So what's the real deal? He's counting money that's already been saved, the reduction in spending as his wars wind down, and the scheduled expiration of tax cuts. He's double counting these savings as coming from his plan, when they're going to happen without his plan. The rest? Massive tax hikes, and cuts that add up to less than 1% of the budget, or about $1 in cuts for every $7 in new taxes."
If you want higher taxes, vote for Barack Obama, because that's his plan."
Romney's plan seems to be to smile a lot and say nothing inflamatory. This would appear to be a totally useless plan unless he has internal polling data that says the election is over already so long as he doesn't screw it up.
This was basically his plan through out the primaries as well.
Huh, I think you might be right - it obviously worked out in the primary. Maybe being "Not O!" is enough, just like being "Not Booosh!" was last time.
God, the Republic wilts before my eyes.
HuffPo: What debt plan?
"that's trillion with a "t" and 12, count 'em 12, zeros."
T,000,000,000,000?
Who are the folks in the picture? How do they have time to go to these rallies? I am trying to rub two nickles together, scramble to my next customer, praying she's gonna sign the deal... Romney and O are giving speeches to all these happy faces and clapping hands who obviously have the day off. Man, did I do something wrong.
Union people, paid to attend.
a ... package that is composed almost entirely of tax hikes.
Well, there's a shocker.
In hospitals, they refer to that as 'flatlining'.
I'd love for one of these assholes to explain how every single one of them (Pres. VP, Congress, USSC) should not be arrested and tried for malfeasance, treason, and misuse of public funds.