Washington State Reporter Wears Bulletproof Vest, Thinks SWAT Narcotics Raid is Totally Awesome
Who needs prohibitionists politicians when the drug war has friends like Seattle's KIRO 7? A recent SWAT narcotics raid reported on sounds wearyingly by the book; Nobody, human or animal, was injured. And though this this video still is creepy in a hey, is this is third-world paramilitary strike nope, just a drug raid kind of way, it's not as surprising as it should be.
But please note how KIRO 7 reported on the raid. Cheerleading is the the best (or the most polite) description of how the vigilant fourth estate treats such bold police action.
Headlined under "SWAT team shows off new tactic in Centralia raid" and juxtaposed with an appalling video report (but we'll get to that in a minute), is the write-up:
A SWAT team raided a Centralia home Thursday as part of a new effort to keep officers safe on the job.
The team was called in to help protect officers who spearheaded the raid, which was aimed at a man wanted on a drug warrant.
First, the team created a distraction by firing a flash-bang grenade into the house. Then, an officer swung a battering ram twice at a door. In just 12 seconds, the team was in the building.
Two men were found inside and detained for questioning.
That sounds like it could be worse, what else happened? Police found marijuana and meth, so at least they got the correct house! Maybe that's something.
KIRO continues:
A Centralia police dog was then sent in to see if anyone else was hiding in the house.
"This is the police! The building is being searched by a police dog at this time. If you come out right now, you won't get hurt," one officer yelled before releasing the dog into the house.
As the dog searched, the SWAT commander said that in a raid like this where the suspects are known to have used methamphetamine, officers can't take any chances.
"These people have weapons, they are at times under the influence of methamphetamine – who knows what they are capable of doing," Sgt. Rob Snaza with the Lewis County Sheriff's Office said.
It's not exactly comforting that a Sgt. learned his drug facts from Degrassi, but in our brave new drug war world, it's technically part of a cop's job to participate in these raids (this is obviously not an excuse). But there's no official reason why the media's job in Centralia is apparently to treat drug raids with such gung-ho reverence.
The video of KIRO's report can be found here. The in-studio anchor delivers the set-up, describing this new effort "to keep officers safe." Richard Thompson, who has apparently won "numerous awards" for reporting, is wearing a olive green bullet-proof vest that says "Sheriff." His delivery is a little too excitable to be the embedded CNN journalist he clearly wants to be so badly he can taste it, still this is news; there are even explosions! "Only our cameras were there!" he verbally flails.
He delivers the same information as above, noting that the SWAT team does this "with the precision that can only come from many hours of training!" "First the distraction! [a flash-bang grenade] "then the battering ram!" and in 12 seconds police are inside. Nobody besides the two "detained for question" were found in home, "but police do find drugs!" says Thompson.
Still, Thompson looked for a little balance to his reporting. He remembered to get the opinion of a neighbor. The grisly local-dude proclaims "I think it's awesome!"
Expect Richard Thompson to be on the scene, ready for more heroics, on the day Centralia, PA gets its own SWAT team.
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...officers can't take any chances.
They can't take any chances with their lives. Your life, on the other hand...
I'd like to see the statistics on drug users who kill raiding cops vs. raiding cops who kill unarmed drug users.
The single biggest cause of line-of-duty deaths are car accidents.
You know, when they disregard those silly traffic laws that they so zealously enforce.
yawn.
evidence? evidence that X%age of officer deaths during collisions occurred because of violation of laws? oh right, you have none
cops have a lower accident/death rate per HOUR IN A VEHICLE than the average citizen.
which completely obliterates your alleged point
furthermore, ballistic vests substantially reduce officer deaths via shootings while only slightly diminishing the deaths that would have happened from collision
regardless here are some ACTUAL stats:
2011 lod deaths:Aircraft accident: 1
Animal related: 1
Assault: 5
Automobile accident: 34
Drowned: 4
Duty related illness: 7
Explosion: 1
Gunfire: 67
Gunfire (Accidental): 5
Heart attack: 11
Heat exhaustion: 1
Motorcycle accident: 5
Stabbed: 2
Struck by vehicle: 4
Training accident: 1
Vehicle pursuit: 4
Vehicular assault: 12
Weather/Natural disaster: 1
Read more: http://www.odmp.org/search/yea.....z1qcpcUpL0
Total Line of Duty Deaths: 163
9/11 related illness: 2
Accidental: 1
Aircraft accident: 2
Assault: 5
Automobile accident: 43
Boating accident: 1
Drowned: 1
Fall: 2
Gunfire: 59
Gunfire (Accidental): 2
Heart attack: 14
Heat exhaustion: 1
Motorcycle accident: 5
Struck by vehicle: 7
Training accident: 1
Vehicle pursuit: 4
Vehicular assault: 13
Read more: http://www.odmp.org/search/yea.....z1qcprGlmp
let's go back to 1978 (vests much rarer back then)
Total Line of Duty Deaths: 216
Accidental: 2
Aircraft accident: 9
Assault: 4
Automobile accident: 29
Bomb: 1
Drowned: 4
Electrocuted: 1
Explosion: 1
Fire: 2
Gunfire: 101
Gunfire (Accidental): 5
Heart attack: 16
Motorcycle accident: 2
Stabbed: 5
Struck by train: 1
Struck by vehicle: 13
Vehicle pursuit: 8
Vehicular assault: 11
Weather/Natural disaster: 1
Read more: http://www.odmp.org/search/yea.....z1qcq8HwFi
Total Line of Duty Deaths: 190
Accidental: 1
Aircraft accident: 5
Assault: 8
Automobile accident: 23
Drowned: 2
Duty related illness: 1
Fall: 3
Gunfire: 96
Gunfire (Accidental): 4
Heart attack: 7
Motorcycle accident: 3
Stabbed: 4
Struck by train: 2
Struck by vehicle: 6
Vehicle pursuit: 6
Vehicular assault: 19
Read more: http://www.odmp.org/search/yea.....z1qcqGxUBD
The last time I read something in the paper about a local police officer dying in a car accident, she was traveling well in excess of the amount she, as a police officer, is allowed to travel in excess above the posted speed limit.
She was allowed to go I think fifteen above the posted limit, and was going something like thirty five over.
Then she went off the road and died.
Good thing she didn't smash into a station wagon and take out a family of five.
cops have a lower accident/death rate per HOUR IN A VEHICLE than the average citizen.
Well, yes, sitting in a parked, idling car eating donuts is rarely fatal. Got a per mile traveled stat? That might be little more relevant, and is usually how I see trafiic fatality risk reported.
I immediately thought of a cop sitting in his immobile car, radaring cars for 8 hours.
Duty related illness: 7
Would this be cases of syphilis or various other VD that vice cops cought from hookers? /sarc
note that in every year i can see gunfire is ore deaths than auto accidents
granted, they differentiate between accidents (where officer is driving or passenger in a car) vs. them getting hit by a car while on side of road (often intentional btw which is of course not an ACCIDENT) and those that occur during pursuits
but still stats are interesting
note especially the much higher gun related deaths prior to near universal wearing of vests
I think the intentional hits by cars are covered under vehicular assault. They also distinguish between regular accidents and accidents during pursuits.
That same trend has been seen in the military (vests decreasing lethality of combat wounds), but another cause is the vast improvement in trauma care available today over the 70's (I think vests were phased in then).
Gunshot wounds are FAR more survivable nowadays.
Saw those numbers too. The pigs that offed THEMSELVES were counted as gunfire deaths. Pull out the suicides and we'll talk.
I am very pro-cop suicide...you all should try it at least once.
"Yawn" is right Dumphy,
Oh my, look at how many LEOs get killed every year! Almost a couple hundred total a year! And some of those deaths are caused by the bad guys!
I still wonder how many americans are killed by these lowlifes each year. Maybe you can actually answer the fucking question Dumphy, instaed of acting so bored...
Looks like about 350 americans are killed by cops each year. Almost all shot to death.
"Yawn". Right Dumphy?
Great job, boys!
If you come out right now, you won't get hurt
wtf.
"with the precision that can only come from many hours of training!"
*sigh*
And these blast points - far too accurate for sand people. Only emperial stormtroopers are so precise
to be fair, in Lucas' universe, it only takes a couple hours to become a jedi knight.
Only if you're the som of someone who was "concieved by the midichlorians".
*shudders* No, don't make me relive the prequels, not again!
*son*
But there's no official reason why the media's job in Centralia is apparently to treat drug raids with such gung-ho reverence.
No official reason, no. If you haven't gotten the fact that the vast majority of the media are merely state-sucking parasites who live off the state and therefore support it, Lucy, you should pretty soon. Combine that with the fact that the media is rapidly sending itself, helped by the internet, to utter irrelevance, and you get another reason why media loves the state: it hopes it will bail it out when the time comes.
The grisly local-dude proclaims "I think it's awesome!"
"I've been trying to get rid of those jerks for months and the City Code Enforcement Bureau has been totally useless", he continued.
I was going to go with "I think its awesome, because I thought they were here to bust my grow!"
So... the SWAT team was sent into a potentially dangerous situation to keep the officers safe on the job?
Sounds like the SWAT team was sent in to a simple drug bust to keep officers safe in their jobs.
A SWAT team raided a Centralia home Thursday as part of a new effort to keep officers safe on the job.
Because officer safety is way more important than citizen safety. I suppose it never occurs to them that maybe the best way to keep both officer's and citizens safe is to not use SWAT teams to serve "routine" drug warrants.
But I guess that wouldn't give "reporters" a chance to get their war boners on in the comfort of their own back yard.
first sentence doesn't logically follow. personally, i think SWAT is overused. whether it should or should not have been used in THIS case is of course unknown (setting aside my opinion that drug use should not be illegal in the first place and thus NO raids or arrests should come from drug use... but given the WOD...)
do we have any knowledge that a SWAT team was or wasn't waranted in THIS raid based on the risk matrix known to officers?
no, that would be data. too pesky to look into that stuff
Was one of the suspects shooting out the windows? Were there hostages? Were the suspects wanted for violent felonies? If the answers to these questions were "NO", then the SWAT team should not have been used. If the answer to one of these questions had been yes, then you can be sure that the media would have told us.
It's the precautionary principle.
Is there a possibility, however remote, that these people could be high and aggressive with weapons in hand, ready to use them against law enforcement, knowing that doing so would result in their execution?
Yes.
Therefore every warrant must be treated as if that is the case.
Burden of proof is on the state, d. They want to kick in doors, perhaps they need to explain to to the citizenry why they felt it was necessary using something more than 'ossifer fafety'. If they aren't willing to give out real information, I see no reason to give them the benefit of the doubt. I'm sure you would like to get the benefit of the doubt, but your fellow officers have fucked up too many times too egregiously for that to happen.
You can't even follow grammatical law.
Did these men ever leave the building to do anything (groceries, etc)? I would say it's easy to assume the answer is yes. Therefore SWAT was unnecessary as they could have arrested them then, and there was no pressing time issue.
Now that the public is much more informed about the "Stand Your Ground" law in which one can come up to you, intimidate you, and even shoot you if you "Stand your Ground", I'm sure more and more people will see the need to walk around with a Gun.
So, Lets make sure everyone has guns and everyone has the right to Stand their ground . We'll see more and more and more militarized police action.
Pretty soon, the cop won't merely have his hand on his gun when pulling you over for a traffic infraction, the gun will be out and pointing at your head...as the cop will be in fear of someone "Standing Your Ground".
doesn't follow. many states have had stand your ground type laws or similar for a long time
my state is a right to carry state and an open carry state
do you have any evidence that cops are more aggressive, shoot more people, etc. in states that respect gun rights vs. those that don't?
i've seen no data to support that.
personally, one of the reasons i chose WA was we have more privacy than most states from govt. intrusion, much greater firearms rights, and much stronger self defense rights than many states (burden is on state to disprove self defense)
i have seen no evidence this increases cop violence.
do you have evidence?
fwiw, most cops i know strongly support both right to carry and stand your ground
most COP-O-CRATS (iow police chiefs, etc.) otoh... not so much
Good. You stay in your state with your guns. I'll stay in mine.
Strict Gun laws have made our inner-city much safer. Drug dealers and the like are no longer free to walk around with a gun in their pocket...it carries 3yr sentence here in NYC if you have a clean record.
But Washington State is not New York City. And, I respect your laws and your way of life. I hope you can appreciate and respect our laws.
Drug dealers and the like are no longer free to walk around with a gun in their pocket...
You think someone who is already risking prison by selling drugs (that activity is against the law you know), and carrying around large amounts of cash (selling drugs is a lucrative activity, that's why people do it), is going to leave their gun at home simply because it's against the law?
Are you daft?
In NY State, possession of a Kilo of cocaine can get you 3 years. I've seen cases with people on their third or fourth predicate cocaine conviction merely charged with Possession. And 3 years in New York is really 1 year 2months.
The Kilo along with an unloaded/non-functioning firearm escalates to 15years...with no priors. This is at the state level.
So yes, a Person risking prison for Coke will probably not want to do more jail time by carrying a gun.
Yes.
How much you want to be that good 'Ol Alice supports the stop and frisk BS pulled in NYC too?
Oh I don't...because they may find my $5.00 bag of weed. In the old neighborhood, you couldn't even cross the street during Guilliani's time.
Now, the've enriched the Street Cameras in NYC to detect GUNS. So hopefully, stop-and-frisk will no longer be used as an excuse to stop a frisk anyone...just people with concealed weapons.
So hopefully, stop-and-frisk will no longer be used as an excuse to stop a frisk anyone...just people with concealed weapons.
Do you have any reason, any reason at all, to think that would actually be the case? The stop and frisk was intended to find people with concealed weapons, and it is constantly abused to find drugs. Why would they stop abusing it now? They even previously promised to stop abusing it and the abuse actually increased. Why on earth would you think that they'd stop now?
I agree with you Coeus. That's why I'm for the legalization of the possession of ALL drugs.
When you come to NYC and see the Cops on the Subway searching people, that is all for drug interdiction...and not for terrorism interdiction. If a terrorist with a bomb were to be stopped, he would merely blow up the bomb. The cops know this.
The abuse can be stopped by LEGALIZING the possession of all drugs.
The second amendment disagees with you. I'm sure you would disagree if an individual state was trying to ban free speech.
I am all for getting rid of US Constitution and let the States Constitutions hold. I, myself, am tired of the FED.
If my states-men want Porn, Pot, no pistols, so be it.
If you state wants no-Porn, No-Pot, Pistols, no jury trials, and no Mexicans, so be it.
fwiw, most cops i know strongly support both right to carry and stand your ground
Maybe 10 or 12 years ago, saw a survey given to officers of some SoCal PD (might've been LAPD, in fact) that questioned rank-and-file officers on their RKBA views and such. And yes, the overwhelming majority (~90%) were supportive of RKBA in general and CCW in particular. Kind of surprising.
Ask a cop sometimes what the laws are in your state with regards to guns and CCW. Then go compare that with the statutes. The results are... interesting.
Here in Texas, they're pretty knowledgable.
Here in Florida, too. We were one of the early adopters of shall-issue, and a large percentage of our residents avail themselves of the CCW process.
I've had Texas LEOs tell me some pretty inane shit. But HPD is probably an outlier.
Judging by previous experience, I don't think it is.
So, Lets make sure everyone has guns and everyone has the right to Stand their ground . We'll see more and more and more militarized police action.
Holy logical leap, Batman!
Seriously people, paintball or airsoft. I know it's more fun with real ammunition but if you need to get your kicks playing soldier there are better ways to do it. Heck you can even play video games.
Do cops typically review detailed floor plans of residences along with a list of all potential occupants prior to hurling explosives through a window? Has one of these flash bang grenades ever landed in a crib?
2010
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2.....-m18.shtml
Dec. 2011
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....llion.html
None of the officers involved in the raid was disciplined for the incident.
I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you! Shocked!
STOP TASING SARCASMIC ALREADY!
+1
Not a crib, but close enough.
http://reason.com/blog/2010/05.....ed-in-swat
What!! You mean sometimes people other than Law Enforcement are dressed like Law Enforcement while someone is kicking in doors and shouting POLICE?
Oh my.
CB
Oh, snap.
And if any of you have ever been to centralia, you know that these thrill-seeker, devil-may-care police tactics are occurring in tiny town, usa... Where if there were police corruption, everyone would know it. So the raids are totally legit. Respect.
A+ on the deadpan delivery. I like my humor dry, and you, sir, have delivered.
And if any of you have ever been to centralia, you know that these thrill-seeker, devil-may-care police tactics are occurring in tiny town, usa... Where if there were police corruption, everyone would know it. So the raids are totally legit. Respect.
I've been to Centralia. I don't see how any sane person could live there without being on narcotics.
First, the team created a distraction by firing a flash-bang grenade into the house. Then, an officer swung a battering ram twice at a door. In just 12 seconds, the team was in the building.
Two men were found inside and detained for questioning.
Domestic war porn: For when terrorizing non-English speaking brown people just isn't fappable.
Domestic war porn: For when terrorizing non-English speaking brown people just isn't fappable.
+47. Nicely said.
Better dead than Red
SCROTUS to rule on reliability of K9's.
http://www.policeone.com/K-9/a.....drug-K-9s/
SWAT cops are the biggest cowards of them all.
http://www.Anon-Nets.tk
Bullet proof vests is life saving every policeman should have one