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Politics

Illinois Judge Says Eavesdropping Law Is Unconstitutional

Jacob Sullum | 3.2.2012 6:13 PM

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Today a Cook County judge ruled that the Illinois Eavesdropping Act, which makes it a crime to record public encounters with the police, is unconstitutional. The case involves Christopher Drew, a Chicago artist who was charged with eavesdropping, a felony carrying a penalty of up to 15 years in prison, after he recorded his own 2009 arrest for selling art without a peddler's license. "The Illinois Eavesdropping Statute potentially punishes as a felony a wide array of wholly innocent conduct," Judge Stanley Sacks noted. "A parent making an audio recording of their child's soccer game, but in doing so happens to record nearby conversations, would be in violation of the eavesdropping statute." 

Last year a Crawford County judge likewise ruled that the law violates the First Amendment, throwing out eavesdropping charges against Michael Allison, who had recorded his own interactions with police officers. Sacks' ruling should improve the chances for a bill that would modify the eavesdropping law to allow the recording of police officers in public places "if the conversation is at a volume audible to the unassisted ear of the person who is making the recording."

More on Christopher Drew here. More on Michael Allison here. More on camera-shy cops here.

[via Radley Balko's Twitter feed]

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  1. Jeffersonian   13 years ago

    I work in Illinois. It's one of the most fucked-up states in a union of fucked-up states. The legislature is almost pathologically disconnected from reality, thrift and any sense of decency.

    1. Arcaster   13 years ago

      I live in Illinois, but I drive across the Wabash for work. Not surprisingly, many people from my town work in Indiana.

      1. Res Publica Americana   13 years ago

        North Carolina is undying heavenly paradise in comparison (I spent time in Illinois a few years ago). Thank God for Dixie.

        1. God   13 years ago

          You're welcome. If you're Christian.

        2. Sy   13 years ago

          I've never head the pleasure of visiting anything north of Colorado or Kentucky, but based on the horror stories I hear, it sounds like I'm not missing much.

          1. Res Publica Americana   13 years ago

            Take Colorado, for instance. It blows by libertarian standards, rocks by global standards, and is good by national standards. Illinois is sort of like Satan's personal domain -- the only things that happen there are the sucking of infant blood and the torture of baby owls.

            1. fried wylie   13 years ago

              the torture of baby owls.

              Mother. Fuckers.

              1. Res Publica Americana   13 years ago

                When referring to Illinois, and Chicago particularly, saying "mother-fuckers" is redundant.

                How 'bout them peddler's licenses?

            2. Sy   13 years ago

              I always hear that people are generally more asshole-ish up in that area.. same with new england, anyways.
              Luckily, Texas only drains the blood out of anchor babies to fuel our hybrid pickups.

              1. Night Elf Mohawk   13 years ago

                You don't really believe that all the red in the BBQ sauce is tomato-based, do you?

                1. sloopyinca   13 years ago

                  Tomato-based BBQ sauce?

                  Blasphemy.

    2. TELLMOFF   13 years ago

      The law was passed because of the demand of cop unions. They openly claimed that they wanted to be protected against lawsuits. This tells us a lot about cops, lawmakers, and Illinois' voters.

  2. shrike   13 years ago

    Sheriff Joe is investigating BigFoot - and recent Elvis sitings, and other right-wing nutcase bullshit!

    Like the Fed! and the Bilderbergers!

    Go Joe Go!

    1. Res Publica Americana   13 years ago

      And when you look back on this day, Shrike, recalling yearningly a time long gone, always remember that not a single fuck was given on this day.

      1. Karl Hungus   13 years ago

        not a single fuck was given on this day.

        I lol'd!

        1. Res Publica Americana   13 years ago

          Shrike probably hasn't even read any of this yet. He's too busy cleaning up after his late-night rendezvous with Obama.

          1. Karl Hungus   13 years ago

            He's too busy cleaning up after his late-night rendezvous with Obama.

            Wouldn't a quick napkin to the chin be sufficient?

            1. Res Publica Americana   13 years ago

              No; Obama brought along the entire DNC to get a taste of Shrike's "hospitality".

              1. Karl Hungus   13 years ago

                the entire DNC

                All of them? Wow, if he just had a flat head to rest my beer on, I'd marry him!

                1. Res Publica Americana   13 years ago

                  All of them. And EACH got two rounds of... stimulation. He's a real catch, ain't he?

  3. dennis   13 years ago

    Until there are consequences for police who harrass cameramen, this ruling does very little. I might suggest that any cop who arrests or threatens to arrest someone for filming them or goes out of their way to arrest them on a flimsy pretext should have 10% of their salary garnished and paid to the victim for, say, 10 years. That might put the kibosh on this sort of thing.

    1. Res Publica Americana   13 years ago

      Or just fire them and forbid them to work in the public sector ever again. I have absolutely no patience for authoritarianism.

      1. Dumbphy   13 years ago

        Waaaaa!

  4. Matt   13 years ago

    "if the conversation is at a volume audible to the unassisted ear of the person who is making the recording."

    So deaf/hard of hearing people can't make audio recordings of police encounters?

    1. Colonel_Angus   13 years ago

      Its stupid. If you're whispering in someone's ear in public, you're still in public.

  5. BakedPenguin   13 years ago

    "if the conversation is at a volume audible to the unassisted ear of the person who is making the recording."

    ...then the cops will say they were close enough to interfere with investigations, and arrest them for obstruction.

    1. sage   13 years ago

      This bears repeating.

  6. BakedPenguin   13 years ago

    "if the conversation is at a volume audible to the unassisted ear of the person who is making the recording."

    ...then the cops will say they were close enough to interfere with investigations, and arrest them for obstruction.

  7. Joe M   13 years ago

    They throw us bones every once in a while.

  8. sage   13 years ago

    This will probably be overruled, then the next higher court won't hear the case.

    1. The Happy Pessimist   13 years ago

      That's the spirit!

      1. The Drug War   13 years ago

        Better safe than sorry!

  9. Anonymous Coward   13 years ago

    This is good news, but do you really think the Illinois legislature and the dons of Cook County will let a little thing like constitutionality stand in the way of their dream police state?

    1. Invisible Finger   13 years ago

      They'll just pass laws taxing recording devices and requiring background checks on anyone trying to buy one and jailing sellers who sell recording devices to ex felons and potential terrorists.

  10. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA   13 years ago

    you know whats funny? poop and all things related to poop. i dare you to look at a movie of somebody pooping on something and not laugh.

    1. rather   13 years ago

      Shut up, John. Everybody knows it's you.

  11. Res Publica Americana   13 years ago

    I'll consider it substantial progress when cops that take shit from people without a warrant, like yanking their cameras out of their hands on the street under threats of violence with deadly weapons, are charged with, and prosecuted for, armed robbery.

  12. 11bravo   13 years ago

    I just do not get why it is illegal to record cops doing their job. What is the logic behind that? Anonimity? I am the kind of guy that doesn't mind a little police street justice for a smartass punk. I just do not like the idea of police policing in secret.

    1. sloopyinca   13 years ago

      I am the kind of guy that doesn't mind a little police street justice for a smartass punk.

      Yeah! There oughta be a 4th Amendment exemption for smartass punks!

      /rolls eyes

  13. mad libertarian guy   13 years ago

    Wait a minute...

    You need a fucking "peddlers license" to sell your own goddamn art in IL?

    The fuck?

    1. Res Publica Americana   13 years ago

      Illinois, New York, Maryland, New Jersey, Delaware, Massachusetts, and California.

      Those states constitute what I call Deadstates -- so fucked up, it wouldn't surprise me if they started requiring people to acquire licenses for walking.

      1. Jeffersonian   13 years ago

        Youn know who else sold art without a license?

        1. Res Publica Americana   13 years ago

          Adolf Hitler, die F?hrer und Reichskanzler?

          1. fried wylie   13 years ago

            ya think any part of the motivation for genociding the gypsies was their unlicensed peddling?

            1. Francisco d Anconia   13 years ago

              Now you need a license to ride a bike?

            2. Res Publica Americana   13 years ago

              No, that was the homosexuals, with their pink and girly and ornamental and colorful artsy shit. The gypsies were straight-up violating gambol lockdown, a much more grievous offense.

        2. Francisco d Anconia   13 years ago

          Da Vinci?

  14. S. Gamgee   13 years ago

    "I ain't been droppin' no eaves sir, honest! I was just cutting the grass under the window there, if you'll follow me."

  15. S. Gamgee   13 years ago

    "Please, don't turn me into anything,...unnatural.'

  16. Jackie Tomassis   13 years ago

    There is a dude that is totally rocking it man.

    http://www.Gone-Anon.at.tc

  17. Concrete Cowboy   13 years ago

    The recently hired Chicago police superintendent recently stated the law should not exist because when police are recorded, it exonerates them more than it convicts them. I'm no fan of the police, but his statement is true. Both police and the real citizen benefit from being able to record.

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