"It's time for a new rule that gives broadcast media the same level of speech protection as any other kind."
The Cato Institute's Ilya Shapiro summarizes what's at stake when the Supreme Court hears oral arguments later this term in Federal Communications Commission v. Fox Television, the case arising from the live broadcast of so-called fleeting expletives:
Who controls the content of TV and radio broadcasts, parents or the FCC? In the 1978 case of FCC v. Pacifica Foundation, the Supreme Court held that, because over-the-air broadcast media is like an "unwanted intruder" in the home that is uniquely accessible to children, the FCC has a role in maintaining the cleanliness of the transmissions. Because of these unique characteristics, the regulation of broadcast media was held to a lesser constitutional standard than other types of media. That ruling was largely based on the technology of the time: three channels, little cable, and no VCRs, much less Internet, DVDs, and satellite TV….
Broadcast media is no longer an "unwanted intruder," but more like an invited guest. Moreover, with the existence of parental control mechanisms like the V-Chip, parental locks included in cable and satellite boxes, and even services like "TV Guardian" — which filters live TV based on the closed-captioning signal — parents have all the tools at their disposal to ensure that children aren't exposed to fleeting expletives or anything else unwanted. So why does the FCC need a vague and overbroad rule that could not pass heightened scrutiny and can only survive under a watered-down First Amendment standard? We live in a world that few could have imagined in 1978. It's time for a new rule that gives broadcast media the same level of speech protection as any other kind.
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Damned straight. There is no justification any longer for treating broadcast differently than other media. Not that the justification used--mostly based on a scarce resources argument--ever was all that great.
These people are worried that, what, their kids will hear a series of phonemes? A series, I might add, that likely pops up frequently on the playground.
But not on the Internet. Fortunately.
Here's a fleeting expletive: Fuck the FCC.
I thought they meant fleets of expletives.
Well, I cuss in armadas, so it makes sense.
Fact: it is completely adorable when Americans say "cuss" in their cute American accents.
If I were president right now, I swear to God I'd have nuked Canada after reading that.
Sorry! "Cute" was not intended as a pejorative. American accents are charming, is all, and especially so with certain words.
Okay, I'll just nuke Greenland. That's Canadian right? Or is that Iceland?
Better hurry, they're on the way.
You know what else is cute? When an entire nation calls a half-assed side dish "dinner."
KD isn't just a 'side dish'. It's a way of life.
KD. Kraut Dog? Kool-Daid? Kan o' Dog?
Oh, yeah, how was the fucking parade and the fucking queen's flunky inspecting the Mounties before their morning beers?
King's Dick? Help me out here, people?
Kraft Dinner.
Oh, I get it. So no entr?es in Canada then?
PantsFan, are you a ketchup on the KD man? I swing both ways on that one.
Never was a fan of the ketchup on it.
Dear Jesus. Hot sauce, yes. Ketchup?
Could you people maybe move a couple hundred miles further north?
So we have steak and lobster. What is the Canuckistani version of surf-n-turf?
Kraft Dinner and poutine?
Haha. You people are so "cute" with your silly little ways. [pats Dagny and PantsFan on the head condescendingly]
Don't knock the poutine man!
It looks weird but tastes wonderful.
Ketchup on mac and cheese? Eeewww.
It is if you're a college student.
When I was a kid, we used to eat a lot of macaroni and cheese and kielbasa, which we called "smoked sausage" because we were bumpkins. The kielbasa would get chopped up and the whole thing would become a gooey ketchupy mess. DELICIOUS.
Were you my neighbor? The town I grew up in started with "S."
Yours?
B.
Ding-dong or a rodent in the name?
South American revolutionary hero.
Shit. I assumed you lived closer to Kings Island.
Oh, I did later. That town started with a W.
Waynesboro?
I grew up in Springboro, btw, but moved to Carlisle in high school and then escaped to VA most of the way thru my last year.
Waynesville. Stupid iPad.
I could certainly manage that if need be.
...to fucking gambol about plain and fucking forest?
Fucking +1 for me!
Now you're just fucking cheating.
When a kid can turn on their computer and instantly have access to a whole lifetime's worth of free streaming porn I think we've reached the point where you can say fuck on television.
I thought they meant fleets of expletives.
The FCC needs a fleet enema.
Fleet makes suppositories, not enemas.
Fleet Enema is a saline laxative enema. It works by pulling water from the body into the bowel, which helps to soften the stool and cause a bowel movement.
Suppositories are solid preparations for dispersing a laxative across the mucosal lining of the rectum. Fleets are liquid preparations.
PWN'D! Try again.
http://www.drugs.com/cdi/fleet-enema.html
Fleet Enema is a saline laxative enema. It works by pulling water from the body into the bowel, which helps to soften the stool and cause a bowel movement.
Fleet enemas are liquid preparations; suppositories are solid preparations designed to release the med across the mucosal lining of the rectum.
Google "fleet enema" or search at Drugs.com.
The Squirrelz won't let me post the link. Spam filter?? Really Squirrelz?
Oh, and PWN'D!
Well, I cuss in armadas, so it makes sense.
More like battalions, with the occasional brigade. For your land campaigns, that is.
Give me 20,000 fucks and I will conquer the whole of Europe, and even the whole world.
If I had ten divisions of those fucks, our troubles here would be over very quickly.
The object of war is not to fuck for your country but to make the other fucker fuck for his.
Something's wrong with that statement.
Something's fucked with that statement.
Which statement?
I don't know anymore. I think this thread may have reached peak fuck.
There's no such thing.
Give me 20,000 fucks and I will conquer the whole of Europe, and even the whole world.
Warty is Mewhommad?
Mewhommad Ali
Kitteh! And Not A Single Fuck Was Given That Day.
Teh prophet has nine lives
And I is his servant.
Have you heard of the FCC?
And how they shit on on our liberty?
By stifling free speech,
And extending their reach
Into places they never should be.
tell me about it
How many points do I score here? Technically it's an indirect hit, but I still get something. I'm claiming 3.5 .
Judges?
Fuck!
Fucking FCC
Fucking bunch of fucking fucks
The flood engulfs us
Is 5-8-5 the new 5-7-5?
Only if the additional syllable is needed to accommodate an extra "fuck." Someone with your illustrious title should know that.
[slaps self in head]
D'Oh!
"Fucks" is one syllable, brah. PWND
Is it fucked (one syllable) or fuck-ed (two syllables)?
It's pronounced fuckt.
White Canadians swearing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR9XIucxIzU
Phuket?
I think we've reached the point where you can say watch fucking on television.
FTFY.
"FOX turned into a hardcore porn channel so gradually that I hardly even noticed"
Sue Simmons is my hero!
What the fuck was he doing? Was that professional anger, or was her co-anchor groping her?
Incidentally, I hate the whole co-anchor concept. I want some old guy reading me the news solo, who personally shot Nazis in the 40s. Preferably during the war.
And I want the local weather done Po?as??ko style. Fuck you FCC for denying me this.
Fun Fact: In lawschool I studied an arbitration involving that show.
One name for local weather excellence: Kaprielian. If anyone knows what the fuck I am talking about, you win 3 bonus points.
There once was the FCC
Who spat upon liberty
"Fuck"speak was hated
Yet never abated
And plain are the results to see.
Damn, doc? Do you want my fucking title?
Something's wrong with that statement.
Needs more tits, cock, shit, piss, cunts and motherfucking. I don't think I missed any.
How fucking long are you fucks gonna fuck with the fucking comments by not fucking threading them?
For fucking fuck's sake.
You missed 'cocksucker'.
That's deprecated.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOrxhvAVVRw
And you mis-spelled "Kochsucker."
"Cokcsucker" not "cock". "Cock" is not one of the words because it can be used in non-dirty ways.
Damn, doc? Do you want my fucking title?
NEVER! Lucy bestowed that glorious title upon thee.
Only what Lucy giveth, can Lucy taketh away.
Wipes fucking brow.
Fleeting epithets.
A bureaucracy confused.
Violence is sexy.
Aha, here we have more linguistic variances. In my head I was saying "vi-o-lence" but this only works if you say it "vi-lence." It actually took me a minute to figure out how to make it 5, 'cause I didn't think you likely to err.
That's very insightful. I actually was about to rework it because of vi-o-lence, then I decided that if people read it quickly they'd think two syllables. I count three syllables, too, in other words, but the "o" is soft enough to allow a little cheating.
It looks like MW has two pronunciations, one with two syllables. But the other dictionaries mostly favor three.
I say it with two syllables, in fact the third syllable sounds forced to me.
Great. I hereby dedicate my haiku to you.
Fucking splendid.
Now I really want to know what the regional variation of this is though.
The "o" for me is pretty soft, almost to the point of not being there. I'm a Southerner, though I don't have much of a Southern accent.
Southerner without much of a Southern accent as well. That is exactly how I would describe it as well, like 2.25 syllables, just sort of blended in to the other two. I guess we have more of a southern accent than we think.
I can hear it now that I am making a softer Southern "vi". See what I mean? Charming.
We're like walking tourist attractions. My brother and I were considered somewhat--I'm not kidding about this--exotic in Minneapolis. I suppose a expat Floridian is a little weird there.
It's detectable. I've been identified as from the South when I lived in Minneapolis. But even they said they could barely hear it. I think I still had some dialect then, too, like "y'all." Florida neutralized me at a young age.
I lived overseas in the middle of my childhood which softened my accent, plus I'm a city boy. People notice I have a texan accent but my cousins who live in the country would scoff at the notion.
Ditto. My cousins in Tennessee don't think I have an accent at all.
Things should be pronounced the way they are spelled. Vase has an s, not a "short o" or a "z". Illinois has an "s". Oregon has a "short o", not a fucking "short u", you dipshits.
Des Moines is pronounced without the "s." In either word. In Chicago, they say Des Plaines. Pronouncing each "s."
Except the WA des Moines, they say you pronounce the second 's' but these are people who say 'pop' instead of soda
I most assuredly pronounce the o
What about the vi and the lence?
If I were president right now, I swear to God I'd have nuked Canada after reading that.
And you mock my preoccupation with Stone Burners. Patooey!
Nukes are different.
Speaking of nuking Canada, to Dagny's point, who speaks funnier--Canadians or Americans? We need a ruling. Preferably from a New Zealander or Aussie.
I think Canadians sound dorkier and Americans sound cooler (unless they're from Minnesota or North Dakota). The host of Top Shot has a particularly appealing American accent, but really all varieties have their charms.
We don't sound funny at all.
Unless you're thinking of Newfies.
Where are you from, PantsFan? I think the more rural you are, the more archetypally Canadian your accent sounds. My grandparents grew up on farms in central Saskatchewan and Americans tend to freak out over their accents.
I'm from Winnipeg.
Oh, I can guaran-damn-tee you have what Americans would notice as a Canadian accent. They catch me sometimes and I'm from BC (Lower Mainland, but not Vancouver proper).
I've been to Vancouver. The accent definitely seemed more "American" there, generally speaking.
Most of the people I know from Vancouver get their r's and l's confused in pronunciation. Otherwise, their Chinese Canadian is impeccable.
Yes, I think half of Hong Kong moved there after the changeover.
Yes, and if MacArthur ever wants to return to the Philippines he better stop off in Winnipeg first, because most of them are here.
I thought Minnesota was a Canadian province? Shoot, you learn something new every day around here.
I find the biggest giveaway of a Candian accent to be the way they say "sorry" with a long "o" sound. Even more than "aboot". Canadians also seem to say "sorry about that" a lot more than Americans.
But really, there are lots of Canadian accents just as there are lots of American accents, no?
How do you know when you stepped on a Canadian's foot?
They apologize.
Even more than "aboot".
Nobody I know says it "aboot". I don't say it aboot either.
Canadians also seem to say "sorry about that" a lot more than Americans.
We should conduct a study looking into that.
Informal one, of course.
It always sounds more like aboat to me. Although I think it might get more like aboot the closer you get to the east coast.
I lived in Toronto long enough that it didn't sound like a different accent any more. Now that I've been gone thirty years, I do notice it.
Where are you from, JMW?
When I lived in Australia I didn't think I was saying that I was "ite years old" either. When he came out to visit my grandfather got the biggest kick out of it.
I'm from Woodstock, Ontario. I now live in Brantford, which is about a half hour away from good ol' Woodstock and about an hour from TO.
I don't know what sort of accent I'd have, other than "not Toronto". Maybe.
JMW, I know Brantford well. My ex-wifes parents lived there.
Also, I worked on the bridge over the Grand River on Highway 403 back in the sixties.
I had a professor in college who was from Canada. He didn't mention that fact in class; the way I found out was the way he said "about." It was something midway between "about" and "about" and was fairly soft; it took me a while to figure out where the accent came from.
The third "about" should be "aboat". Damn my resistance to making intentional spelling errors!
I find the biggest giveaway of a Canadian is the mentioning of "Grade 5" instead of "fifth grade" or similar.
"'Bullfrog'? That's a funny name for an animal. I'da called it a chuzzwozzer."
I don't think most Australians can tell the difference. And there's nothing funnier than seeing how pissed off a Canadian gets when some Ocker calls him a Yank. It's sort like how a southerner reacts, only funnier.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs_rXxi0zhM
I was thinking of that same scene
The australian scenes are always golden:
Bret: Did you use protection?
Jermaine: Only on my penis.
Everybody uses Yankee wrong. People in the south think it means everyone from the north. People from other countries think it means everyone from the US.
Really, it means New Englanders of the old school "fuck you, we're fine as we are" variety.
I think it means everybody north of the mason dixon on the east coast.
As in: fuck those yankee carpetbaggers the Bush family.
Since my grandfather was from Maine I am quite aware of that.
Unfortunately for New Englanders the rest of the country has been using it differently since at least the Civil War.
If people from your state burned my ancestor's stuff, you're a Yankee.
Yeah, but the Yankees won, so they get to write the history. 🙂
fuck shit piss cunt hump mother-fucker, give me your hump, give me your hump.
How fucking long are you fucks gonna fuck with the fucking comments by not fucking threading them?
P fucking Brooks is my fucking idol, you fuckety fucking fuck. I'll fucking eschew fucking threading for as fucking long as I fucking damn well please. Sprinkle with copious fucking amounts of the aformentioned six other fantablulously filthy fucking phrases.
I'd join you but I'm too fucking lazy to copy and paste every cocksucker I want to reply to.
Oh, Tits!
Okay, I'll just nuke Greenland. That's Canadian right? Or is that Iceland?
Newfoundland and Nova Scotia are entirely disposable.
as long as you spare the Quebecois.
Might as well add PEI & New Brunswick, and make it a Maritimes quad-fecta.
The correct pronunciation of "Toronto" is to rhyme it with "Piranha".
Ha, I was just about to say something very similar! Was trying to figure out how to type it: T'rahnna?
That's like the local pronunciation of Louisville, which is "Red Stick."
Yes, but that is because it is the proper, east coast way of saying it.
I also laugh when Americans pronounce Montreal as Mon-TREE-All
I thought it was Mont-reel.
I thought the proper pronuciation was Hogtown.
See also, T.O.
That is the proper pronuciation of "Toronto"...
That was Gainesville's (Florida) original name. Huh.
Roanoke VA was originally called Big Lick.
Fuck the the fucking FCC up their fucking cunt with fucking rusted chainsaw! That is all.
This calls for a peaceful protest song.
Our canvas is freedom, Your blood is our paint...
Like a pig you consumed, And like a pig you will roast...
And what you won't share, Will be ripped from your hands, Your body destroyed, The way fire lands, Burning your homes
Strung up you'll bleed, Like the pig you became
We occupy wall street, So that we may begin
Remember folks, Occupiers are peaceful, considerate, decent folks who would never consider hurting a fly, much less actually hurting a fly.
And they care a lot too. So much it hurts.
Forida drivers can flash their warning lights warning about cops -it is free speech, then
+1 for me! Bam!
No.
As far as pronunciation is concerned, nothing is more fun than pronouncing Nevada the correct way (ie the Spanish way, being a Spanish word and all) around a Nevadan. They can't fucking stand it.
Nay-ba-da?
I'm from Nevada, and yes, it's fucking annoying when fucking dumbasses say it wrong.
I usually ignore it, though. My brother, on the other hand, damn near goes into a rage. I sometimes have friends say it wrong just to fuck with him.
Oh, and our parents are from Oregon. And we've pretty much all moved back to Oregon. So we get a double helping of east-coast provincial assholes on TV who can't say the name of either state correctly.
I hate to say it, but I can't help saying "Nev-ah-da" but then my Dad used to insist that the town I now live in should be pronounced "Altamon-TAY Springs"; but then he was born in Puerto Rico and his first language was Spanish (in spite of having the most Yankee - Maine and New Hampshire - parents imaginable).
Interestingly, even though we are supposed to pronounce the name of the state as NevAda, it is still OK to say the name of the mountain range as the Sierra Nev-ah-da.
Any westerners, correct me if I am wrong.
In case there are soccer fans out there: Ireland is putting a beat down on Estonia on the away leg of their playoff. Meanwhile, Bosnia tied Portugal, so there's a chance those Portagee cunts will be staying home for Euro2012.
I watched the Illyrians outperform gay Ronaldo.
Good job.
Say, "roof."
It sure as fuck doesn't rhyme with woof.
"ruewf."
How the fuck does it NOT?
It rhymes with aloof and poof and goof
And they care a lot too. So much it hurts.
Yes, in that Sandusky and Polanski sort of way.
I keep telling you that it wasn't rape rape.
Sandusky, now. That's different.
I just watched the episode (Season 2, Episode 14) where Tom Hanks comes back. Horrible acting, but Hanks slaps the fuck out of Michael J Fox when he's drunk.
I think Fox is still twitching from that hit.
You're hostility towards Marty McFly is mystifying.
Maybe you should watch Spin City next?
2 episodes, or 50 minutes, ago, Marty and George McFly were in an episode together where Marty turns 18 and tells his mom to fuck off cause he's going to West (By God) Virginia to get drunk.
I was about 5-6 years too late to have caught that loophole when I lived in Ohio. I still remember how cool the 18year olds were who had a birthday early and their buddies had to wait 3 more years to buy beer when the WV law changed.
Other good Marty McFly films include Doc Hollywood and the hilarious "The Hard Way"
That's the one where Hanks drinks the bottle of vanilla extract, right? It would have been even better if it had happened when MJF was tweaked out on amphetamines
Yeah. That's the one. And he wants to drink a jar of maraschino cherries with Alex to get drunk too.
There was a serious shortage of Tina Yojers in the episode: it's saving grace.
As far as the amphetamines episode goes, it sparked a decent comment thread on Dalmia's thread last night where Banjos confessed to watching "Voyager."
I think Tina Yothers was Cousin Oliver in drag. And man, talk about an awkward adolescence!
Going to see "Immortals" with my kids. I'll let you all know how much it sucks in a few hours.
More than anyone here can possibly imagine.
Picture Keanu Reeves playing Ben Hur instead of Charlton Heston with Michael Bay directing and you aren't even scratching the surface of the suckitude.
I just watched the 2010 remake of "A Better Tomorrow" and it rocked.
Fleet Enema is a saline laxative enema. It works by pulling water from the body into the bowel, which helps to soften the stool and cause a bowel movement.
Fleet enemas are liquid preparations; suppositories are solid preparations designed to release the med across the mucosal lining of the rectum.
PWN'D!
Fleet Enema is a saline laxative enema. It works by pulling water from the body into the bowel, which helps to soften the stool and cause a bowel movement.
Fleet enemas are liquid preparations; suppositories are solid preparations designed to release the med across the mucosal lining of the rectum.
http://www.drugs.com/cdi/fleet-enema.html == PWN'D!
Talk radio = pornography, and both should be regulated.
Of course, I only mean "right-wing" talk radio.
Then again, I'm brain-damaged.
Just give us the word, and we'll crack down on the internet, too!
right-wing talk radio causes schizophrenia.
And government-funded studies NEVER lie!
If Rick Perry's still trying to figure out a third agency to get rid of, how about the FCC (Federal Censorship Commissars)?
Hell no, Canada and Denmark are at war over an island in the middle of the Greenland Strait.
Dammit man, it's time to take sides.
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