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Blunting the Blunt Menace

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In "Bongs Away," my February 2009 Reason story about drug paraphernalia, I noted that retailers won't necessarily avoid legal trouble by posting signs declaring that the pipes they sell are "for tobacco use only." Under a bill that seems to be on the verge of passage in Illinois, tobacco itself would qualify as drug paraphernalia. The bill, approved by the Illinois Senate on Monday, bans "individual tobacco wrappers, known as wraps, blunt wraps, or roll your own cigar wraps, whether in the form of a tobacco leaf, sheet, or tube, that consist in whole or in part of reconstituted leaf or flavored tobacco leaf." The bill includes an exception for "a tobacco leaf wrap that is used in the manufacturing of a cigar intended for retail sale." But all other cigar wrappers are presumed to be sold for use with marijuana. A minister who supports the ban explains:

Having this product in mainstream stores is like having drug pushers in our neighborhoods. Blunt wraps are an indefensible product marketed to children and entirely identified with illegal drug use.

If pot smokers can't buy wraps, of course, they can always revert to the practice of hollowing out cheap cigars, which indisputably have legal uses. The fact that a ban on blunt wrappers is exceedingly unlikely to reduce marijuana consumption reinforces my point that the crusade against drug paraphernalia is essentially a crusade against positive messages about drugs, a symbolic battle on top of another symbolic battle.

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  1. Blunt wraps are an indefensible product marketed to children and entirely identified with illegal drug use.

    This took me completely by surprise.

    1. Because the first part is completely made up and the second part is pretty close to hilariously obvious?

      1. I think the point that Reason is missing here is that the drug war is about to end. If they ban rolling papers, wraps, and bongs, people are just going to have to stop smoking weed. I mean what the hell are they going to do, smoke it out of apples or something? It’s taken decades, billions upon billions of dollars, many millions of lives lost and destroyed, but we are finally at the end.

        1. Holy shit, Dave, you are a god “smoke it out of apples or something?”
          lmfao nice,
          …On the other hand, if you were completely deadpan serious I just might have overestimated you.

  2. A minister who supports the ban explains:

    Any minister who concerns himself with politics is a charlatan and not a minister. And God will smite him.

      1. yes, because no minister ever has to deal with drug issues in a family.

        1. …they also never ever have to deal with a family down one perfectly good parent who’s been sent up state for a couple of joints either.

          1. Which in my opinion is wrong, as perhaps said parent may be using those coupla joints for nausea and pain resultant from cancer, AIDS, or other systemic conditions.

            1. I do not know what you think of this but I can assure you that tobacco is certainly something not healthy and good for a living being except under certain medical conditions. Use of tobacco in whatever method will only invite diseases in a human being’s life! If not now, then later on! You can all go and say that you are covering this individual tobacco with wrappers and stuff but still its tobacco what’s inside and not chocolates!

        2. And so those ministers sent their family members away to prison, since that’s what they want to do with others?

          It’s been a long time since I read the New Testament, but I could have sworn that Jesus guy talked about forgiveness, and not judging others. And when he did talk about judging others, he mentioned that it was not something for the earthbound to do.

          It’s almost enough to make me hope the Christians are right. If they got sent to the lowest rungs of hell for their political choices here on Earth, their screams would be lovely music.

          1. Implying all Christians are conservative bible thumpers who are fucking with everyone’s personal choice is not the case. A lot of us our pro-rights for everything from abortion to gay marriage.

            1. Wow. One would have never known from your first message. Maybe you might want to make that clear from now own.

              1. Yes, daddy

                1. Issues?

                  1. Dr Bombay, don’t you have more anon posts to write?

                    1. Ah how are you this morn? 😉

                    2. well, thank you

                    3. As I have read your posts,I don’t feel the need to ask in return.

                    4. And which would these be?

                    5. IANAMFL and the other, let me think…..

                    6. Wrong. And I rarely joke handle; if I do I don’t omit my email address.

                    7. I guess the other one I have is wrong too. You do write with an unconcealed style.

                    8. My last reply to you was to this post.

                      It is meant to complimentary and sincere.

                    9. I try. Creature of habit I suppose.

                    10. very sweet

                    11. You forgot artist.

                    12. As con or performance?

                      This was my last reply to you on that thread.

                    13. Thank you, I had read both. I pick con but wait…how did you know it was me? Takes one to know one?

                    14. LOL something like that I suppose. Regardless of my choice in vocation, I’m not totally obtuse. 😉

                    15. The world needs thick people too. Are you up late or up early?

                    16. Yes, it does. I also perform/assist with bariatric procedures.

                      Up early, vacation is almost over.

                    17. lol, you vacation on Reason. Ever heard of travelling?

                    18. Been spending time with family; my father is infirm.

                      Besides, not being a slave to the pager/messaging service is quite frankly vacation enough.

                      I may take a weekend junket out of town though.

                    19. My diagnosis of this banter: snappy.

                    20. Thanks Art, you’re all heart.

            2. Perhaps, but the majority of insane close-minded turn to religion to shield their beliefs from actual debate.
              “so sir, just why would you believe that all gays should burn in hell and be prosecuted and expelled from America?”
              “my bible tells me so”
              “oh, and any rational evidence, perhaps, to prosecute an entire group of people?”
              “well, my bible is infallible, and it says so”

              End of discussion, trying to debate any more is like arguing with a inanimate object. FUCK people, think!!

  3. “individual tobacco wrappers, known as wraps, blunt wraps, or roll your own cigar wraps, whether in the form of a tobacco leaf, sheet, or tube, that consist in whole or in part of reconstituted leaf or flavored tobacco leaf.”

    But I can still buy cigarillos and cut them open right?

    1. Right. We can still roll blunts like Goddamn Good Americans always have.

  4. Damn. I’ve been out of the game so long, I wasn’t aware of this development. Just selling the wrappers is… brilliant. Well played, cigar makers. No wonder the kids prefer blunts.

    1. All your children are belong to us.

      1. All your children are belong to us.

      2. “the kids” != minors. I live in a college town. Pretty much everybody under 30 == “the kids”.

  5. During Prohibition, was there ever an attempt to outlaw cocktail shakers or shot glasses?

  6. Wrappers are also used by Iranians to enrich uranium.

    1. I think we have our smoking gun.

      1. HA. See what he did there? “Smoking” – see?

  7. Guess I’ll have to go back to using Bible pages. Heh, I’m kidding of course. I never stopped using Bible pages. Blunts are nasty yo.

    1. The rice paper gives it a nice taste. I perfer psalms, personally.

      1. Next time I’m at bible study, I will smile at that thought.

    2. Genesis is where its at!
      “and god said, “let there be light”
      *holds up lighter*
      “and there was light, and it was good”
      *inhales*
      oh yeah… its good…

  8. It’s a good thing you can’t just use a dented beer can as a pipe…

    1. Or an apple.

      Or, for that matter, aluminum foil, folded and twisted thusly.

      1. I am starting to get the impression that you are not always paid in cash for your legal services.

        1. The barter system is time honored tradition for the exchange of goods and services.

    2. Sounds like something for a MAKE magazine article.

      1. You can’t roll a joint with a web page!

        That’s why I support computers in our schools.

        1. I like this. I like this a lot.

    3. Careful, next thing you know they will be checking your recyclables for suspiciously dented cans.

  9. A friend of mine in high school had a nice little side income from making cute little pipes out of small brass plumbing fittings.

    But kids these days would probably never stoop to such crude trinkets. Unless you branded them “Steampunk”.

    *scratches head*

    Gotta go, now!

  10. I’ve use Coke? cans, acid brushes, butter knives*, plumbing fixtures, government pens and even a stool to ingest marijuana.

    What’s the good reverend going to do about that?

    * For hashish

    1. I’m glad you used *a* stool instead of just stool to ingest marijuana.

      1. *a* stool is *a* stool is *a* stool

    2. Hot knives for hash = win

    1. It was wood. We had a drill.

      1. I’m sure you had to drill to get the stool but I personally would just prefer to sit and wait.

        1. Heh, too easy.

  11. this is insanity. do they really think this is going to stop people from smoking? any dry paper-like material will work. this is a way for them to hit two segments of the population with one law; they get to persecute tobacco smokers and cannabis smokers. of course cigars almost always get some kind of exemption but these wraps may not because rich people don’t roll their own cigars. when are the people going to say NO MORE to all of this government intrusion on businesses and individuals?

  12. “Look, my gang–which I can’t talk about because it’s super secret–is the most important thing to me now, and if you two don’t like it, you can just pass the blunt to the nigga on your left.”

  13. Henceforth, all bibles shall be produced using paper which has been denatured to prevent illicit consumption.

  14. Check out a new type of gimmick which is splendid
    Since you’re down with other shit, let’s see if you’re down with this
    It’s about strictly trying to roll a blunt
    When you get the hang of it, you’ll catch more blunts than Archie Bunk
    First of all you get a fat bag of ism
    From uptown, any local store sells the shit friend
    Purchase a philly, not the city of Philly
    Silly punk, I’m talking ’bout the shit called the Philly blunt
    Lick the blunt and then the Philly blunt middle you split
    Don’t have a razor blade, use ya fuckin fingertips
    Crack the bag and then you pour the whole bag in
    Spread the ism around until the ism reach each end
    Take your finger and your thumb from tip to tip
    Roll it in a motion then the top piece you lick
    Seal it, dry it wit ya lighter if ya gotta
    The results, mmmmmmmm….proper.

    That’s how ya roll a blunt.

    1. Put the blunt down just for a second
      Don’t get me wrong, it’s not a new method
      Inhale……..exhale
      Just got an ounce in the mail
      I like a blunt or a big fat cone,
      But my double-barrel bong is gettin’ me stoned

      I want to get hiiiigh, sooo hiiiigh

  15. Suspicion tells me that they’ll propose taxing the shit out of roll-your-own tobacco next. I’ve been seeing more and more people buying loose tobacco presumably to circumvent the ever increasing taxes on cigarettes. And we all know what those papers that come with each pouch can alternately be used for…

    1. They’ve already done that. A can of tobacco to roll 200 cigarettes costs about $22 now. When I used to roll my own in the early 90’s, it was closer to $7. And I was smoking Drum, not that Top or Bugler shit.

      Also, actual cigarette papers suck for pot, and vice versa. Cigarette papers (Drum, Top, Bugler) aren’t meant to hold smoke residue, but the more common “cigarette” papers (Zig Zag, Joker) are. Again, it’s been a while, but when we used to get to the end of a joint, it was soaked in resin, and almost brown. You wouldn’t necessarily want that in a tobacco cigarette. Also, smoking pot using a Top or Bugler paper, it wouldn’t hold any of the residue, meaning you lose out on the gooey resin goodness towards the end of the joint.

    2. Suspicion tells me that they’ll propose taxing the shit out of roll-your-own tobacco next.
      SCHIP bill last year increased loose cigarette tobacco tax 1700%. Yeah, seventeen hundred percent.There is some new “tax parity” bill to “close the pipe tobacco loophole”. I’m sure the governments partner, Phillip Morris, will approve of any increase that brings loose tobacco into parity with “”.

      1. “tailor mades”

  16. “The bill, approved by the Illinois Senate on Monday, bans “individual tobacco wrappers, known as wraps, blunt wraps, or roll your own cigar wraps, whether in the form of a tobacco leaf, sheet, or tube, that consist in whole or in part of reconstituted leaf or flavored tobacco leaf.”

    They finally figured it out!

    It took ’em a while, but they finally figured out how to get rid of marijuana consumption once and for all.

    I don’t see how anyone could possibly keep smokin’ the stuff anymore!

    P.S. Are people still allowed to buy aluminum cans in Illinois? ’cause really, the DIY Coke can pipe still seems like it beats anything on the market in terms of price, being inconspicuous and being disposable.

    I’m just sayin’.

  17. Wait… so you can wrap your tobacco in rolling papers, but you can’t roll your weed in tobacco papers?

    What about regular joints rolled in plain old rolling papers? or is that not “black” enough to be banned?

  18. I wonder who watermelon flavored alcohol bevarages are aimed at ?

    1. I wonder who watermelon flavored alcohol bevarages are aimed at ?

      Chicks

      1. Hey!

  19. In high school, a friend made a clay bong in art class. When we were loading our pieces in the kiln, the teacher looked at the bong, looked at my friend, then shook his head. “If anyone asks, tell ’em it’s a candle holder.”

    1. A guy I knew in high school used to make water pipes in chemistry lab and smuggle them out at the end of class.

  20. “Blunt wraps are an indefensible product marketed to children and entirely identified with illegal drug use.”

    So when does Billy Blunt get his own 1/2 Saturday morning cartoon?

  21. I thought it was a candle holder too, till the no warrant raid. You little bastard.

  22. God, I hate living in Chicago. I mean, I love Chicago, but out state government is way out of control.

  23. It’s because it’s a trick to get kids addicted to tobacco.

  24. It’s because it’s a trick to get kids addicted to tobacco. A reverse Trojan horse.

  25. This reveerand is NO Christian.

    Perhaps he is a Bible thumper.

    But definietly not a Bible reader as there is nothing there to support prohibition.

  26. The drup problem is not with products people can buy at the store but the people themselves. Youtube to MP3

  27. Reply by steroids for sale : Guess I’ll have to go back to using Bible pages. Heh, I’m kidding of course. I never stopped using Bible pages. Blunts are nasty yo.

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  29. ble reader as there is nothing there to support prohibition.

  30. It’s because it’s a trick to get kids addicted to tobacco. A reverse Trojan horse. good one.

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  33. Looks like I’ll have to get a pipe. Check out Frama’s range of UK Franking Machines.

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  34. The pipes they sell are “for tobacco use only.” yeah right I’m sure they are just used for tobacco how can they get way with it.

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  36. Amongst my daughters white friends, most of them now smoke, and many of them smoke weed, this seems to be on the increase.

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  37. 4 o’clock Saturday afternoon…

    Best find my lighter 🙂

  38. doood day
    this is nice

  39. This will not solve the problem it’s just a joke. where there’s a will there’s a way

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