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Policy

Flexing Your Rights

Radley Balko | 12.9.2009 11:52 AM

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The civil liberties advocacy organization Flex Your Rights has a new video coming out next month called 10 Rules for Dealing with Police. Here's a trailer:

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Radley Balko is a journalist at The Washington Post.

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  1. Colin   16 years ago

    Gotta love how Google put up an ad for "how to become a police officer" why the video played.

  2. The Art-P.O.G.   16 years ago

    Looks like it could be a very valuable video. I don't remember learning any of this stuff in Civics class.

  3. dennis   16 years ago

    Aren't we getting to the point where if people start asserting their rights, the cops will just murder them and plant guns on their corpses?

  4. aix42   16 years ago

    Up here in the Canaders I got a ticket for expired plate tags while the ministry office I had to get them from was on strike. The Police officer admonished me for not getting it at the earliest date. Then went on about his kids and responsibility and got mad at me. A Pig. His younger female partner seemed to have sympathy for me and surprise at his reaction, but did not tell him to lay off and cool down.

    Justice of the peace threw it out, but I had to schlep around and waste a lot of time for nothing.

    Of course I was not hurt or criminalized, but I can see how these things escalate when idiots have power.

    1. CaptainSmartass   16 years ago

      In that cop's defense, it's not his job to determine guilt or innocence, that's the function of a judge/magistrate. So while he could've let you off with a warning it's not really a big deal for him to cite you on this. Pain in the ass yeah, but then it's a pain in the ass to have public servants that can go on strike in the first place.

  5. Abdul   16 years ago

    tip # 11: doggie-size body armor

  6. prolefeed   16 years ago

    Really, just one rule will suffice (and when you're in a stressful situation that could lead to your arrest, one rule may be all you can remember:

    1. STFU.

    OK, two rules.

    2. Seriously, STFU. Nothing you can say will make things better. It will all be used against you.

    OK, three rules.

    3. Don't fucking run. Bullets are faster than you.

    1. prolefeed   16 years ago

      Corollary to rule #1: STFU also means don't nod your head "yes" when they ask permission (or seemingly demand permission) to enter your house, or search your car, or search your person or backpack. Don't consent to any search whatsoever. If they have probable cause, they won't ask for permission. They only ask if they don't have the right to do it.

      1. Sal Paradise   16 years ago

        Since most cops aren't being recorded, I've always wondered why they just don't search anyways. They could always claim that you gave consent. Your word against a cop's, we know who always wins that fight.

  7. Morris   16 years ago

    Okay, Radley, use your imagination and come up with a scenario on dealing with private cops in Libertopia.

    1. sage   16 years ago

      Morris wants a cops (or cops) to play "hide the baton" with him.

      1. Morris   16 years ago

        Think Somalia, fuckhead

        1. robc   16 years ago

          Somalia != Libertopia.

          1. robc   16 years ago

            Also, very few us here are anarchists.

            1. robc   16 years ago

              Why the fuck am I responding to Edward?

              1. BakedPenguin   16 years ago

                We were wondering the same thing. Next time you see him, pretend he's a cop, and don't talk to him.

            2. Episiarch   16 years ago

              But we're the coolest!

            3. pistoffnick   16 years ago

              I am Spartacus!

            4. Guy   16 years ago

              So non-anarchist libertarians don't want private cops?

        2. Citizen Nothing   16 years ago

          Why am I not surprised that Morris is a slavish devotee of cops' authoritah?
          (And ya'll know why he calls himself "Morris," right? Think old-time commercials.)

          1. Citizen Nothing   16 years ago

            Yes, that's right. Morris is a finicky pussy.

    2. Abdul   16 years ago

      Pay them whatever the market will bear to taser you and shoot yer dog.

  8. BeesInTheBrain   16 years ago

    I want them to come up with 10 Rules For Dealing With School Officials that I can give to my kids to watch.

    1. sage   16 years ago

      My advice would be basically the same as with the police, i.e. don't say anything. Have them tell the school officials to call you in if there's a problem.

  9. Mick Kraut   16 years ago

    I dont care what this "famous lawyer" says, wearing a Cleveland Browns jersey warrants some sort of police intervention if for no other reason than that poor person may need help and simply doesnt realize it.

    1. Citizen Nothing   16 years ago

      More of a psychiatric problem, I'd think...

      1. Jim   16 years ago

        So, Baker Act for that transgression?

  10. BakedPenguin   16 years ago

    Speaking of Browns fans, Warty once linked to a video with a law professor talking about why you should never, ever, talk to cops. It was followed by a cop - talking about why you should never, ever talk to cops.

  11. Citizen Nothing   16 years ago

    Right here, BP. I pass it along whenever I can.

  12. BakedPenguin   16 years ago

    Also, since Radley didn't put up the link to the Flex your rights.org, here it is.

  13. Michael   16 years ago

    Whatever this rule is, it apparently didn't make the cut....

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/.....-a-johnson

    1. Pope Jimbo   16 years ago

      How can you arrest a guy with such a righteous mullet?

      Cut Santo some slack on the pot dudes!

      1. Pope Jimbo   16 years ago

        Sorry, bad link copying skillz.

        Here is the right link.

  14. Dagny T.   16 years ago

    And part two is here. They're a little long, but I'm really, really glad I saw this before I've even had to be in this situation.

  15. FrBunny   16 years ago

    Is there an 800-number I can call that will record a conversation? I'd like to have it rolling during a traffic stop, just for peace of mind.

    1. sage   16 years ago

      I think a lot of cell phones have the capability to take voice notes. It might work.

  16. FrBunny   16 years ago

    My BlackBerryhas a time limit of 60 seconds for recording. If I'd been the airport Ron Paul guy, I'd be screwed. Guess I need an iPhone.

    1. ransom147   16 years ago

      must be an older berry.

      1. JW   16 years ago

        It has to be an older one. I have a 8900 Curve and it's still recording after 2 minutes. Even better the screen blanks after 15 seconds.

        I never have a use for that feature, but I do now. Excellent tip. I should map it to an external button.

    2. wylie   16 years ago

      Point is, the 800-number is remote storage. They can't just confiscate your phone and delete your evidence.

      1. ransom147   16 years ago

        true

      2. kinnath   16 years ago

        Just keep an old style answering machine hooked up at home and call yourself.

  17. Citizen Nothing   16 years ago

    My BlackBerryhas a time limit of 60 seconds for recording.
    Really? That's hilarious. Come, join us in the 21st century!

  18. SugarFree   16 years ago

    Thanks for confirming those Kentucky stereotypes, HoneyBunny.

    I have a 3Gs, for the record.

  19. Episiarch   16 years ago

    My recording time is only limited by the extent of my imagination. And my 8G SanDisk card.

  20. Romulox   16 years ago

    I have a 3Gs, for the record.

    I used to have one of those. It made me feel like a caveman.

    1. Episiarch   16 years ago

      Someone stole my PDA, and I will ruin this house with my anger!

  21. Rob   16 years ago

    Billy Murphy of Baltimore fame. Nothing to do with the admirable aim of Flex Your Rights, but Murphy is one hell of a slimeball...Even for a PA/Criminal Def attorney.

    1. BakedPenguin   16 years ago

      Worse than Mary Beth Buchanan, John Woo, MS AG John Hood, or the former Dallas DA who once said "anyone can convict a guilty man. It take a real prosecutor to convict an innocent man."?

      Because in the scumball playoffs, that's some stiff competition.

  22. Jordan   16 years ago

    I've always wondered, if you ask for a lawyer when the cops are questioning you, what happens next? Do they let you borrow the phone book? Can you call a friend or family member and have them get you a lawyer? I don't exactly have a lawyer on retainer...

    1. Windypundit   16 years ago

      In theory, if they have enough to arrest you, they arrest you, and then they have to let you call someone and arrange for a lawyer. If they don't have enough to arrest you, they pretty much have to let you go. They may keep trying, and they may become extravagantly unhappy about your lack of cooperation, so be prepared for that.

      1. sage   16 years ago

        The important thing to do is not answer any questions other than providing ID, etc. Anything else should be responded to with "Are you detaining me, or am I free to go?" If they detain you, flex your right to remain silent.

  23. Jim   16 years ago

    This video is racist.

  24. Rhayader   16 years ago

    Hey this Billy Murphy guy is the dude who played Clay Davis' defense attorney in the final season of The Wire. Sweet.

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