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Is Sen.-to-be Butler Eligible to Represent California?
The residence question is closer than it might appear.
According to his official website, California Gov. Gavin Newsom on October 1 appointed Laphonza Butler to the Senate, to complete the term of the late Sen. Dianne Feinstein. Butler was apparently a Maryland resident as of very recently, but according to Newsom's office she plans to re-register to vote in California before her Wednesday swearing-in.
For various reasons, though, that might not be enough, and the Senate will have a real constitutional question to face. As far as I can tell—and I'd be happy to be corrected—if Butler hasn't traveled back to her home in California since deciding to take the job, and if Newsom doesn't wait until she does to make (or re-make) the appointment, she can't represent California, and the Senate can't seat her yet.
(NB: This isn't my area of expertise; I usually just listen to Josh Chafetz on most questions of Congress's procedure and structure. But I've been working on a paper on the Twelfth and Seventeenth Amendments, which is why these questions came to mind. Also, nothing in what follows turns—or should turn—on one's political agreement or disagreement with either Newsom or Butler.)
Why would Butler's residence matter? The Constitution establishes the following qualifications for Senators in Art. I, § 3, cl. 3:
No Person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen.
Until recently, Butler wasn't an inhabitant of California. She lived there much of her life and apparently still owns a home there. But since then she moved to Maryland, where she made political donations and worked for a political committee.
Newsom's office has suggested that it'll be enough for Butler to re-register to vote in California before being sworn in on Wednesday. And there's precedent of a kind: Dick Cheney reestablished his Wyoming residence when running for Vice President with his otherwise-fellow-Texan George W. Bush.
But the comparison isn't quite right. There's no flat bar on two Texans sharing a presidential ticket; the problem in 2000 was only that the Texas electors, under the Twelfth Amendment, had to vote for at least one candidate who "shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves." Cheney, who re-registered in July 2000, could have changed his residence any time before the electoral college assembled in December.
By contrast, Article I looks to a senator's residence "when elected," and not when sworn in. Swearing-in might be the right time for measuring age and citizenship, but not residence. For example, one 29-year-old simply waited for his thirtieth birthday before appearing in the Senate and presenting his credentials. Yet the residence requirement comes with an explicit timestamp: if the candidate isn't an inhabitant "when elected," she isn't eligible to serve afterwards.
But isn't Butler being appointed, not elected? That's only partly right. Under the Seventeenth Amendment, the senators from each state are "elected by the people thereof," with the following exception:
When vacancies happen in the representation of any State in the Senate, the executive authority of such State shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies: Provided, That the legislature of any State may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct.
That's what's happening here: California's legislature has allowed its governor to make a "temporary appointment[]," which will last until the next election. But that doesn't mean the residence requirement applies only to senators chosen by the people at large (or, say, that Newsom could choose to appoint somebody from Alaska or New York instead). The phrase "when elected" is broader than that, because it was adopted as part of the 1788 Constitution, when each state's senators were "chosen by the Legislature thereof" (Art. I, § 3, cl. 1), usually one legislative house at a time. So "elected" here means a whole process of official choice, not only some first-past-the-post vote by the general citizenry. And the 1788 Constitution also provided for executive appointments, in Art. I, § 3, cl. 2:
[I]f Vacancies happen by Resignation, or otherwise, during the Recess of the Legislature of any State, the Executive thereof may make temporary Appointments until the next Meeting of the Legislature, which shall then fill such Vacancies.
The Seventeenth Amendment was adopted "in lieu of" the "chosen by the Legislature" requirement, as well as "so much of paragraph two of the same section as relates to the filling of vacancies." But it left the qualification requirements in Clause 3 intact. So the "when elected" requirement is still good law, and its most natural reading would include whatever form of official choice establishes a person as a putative senator. If Newsom already signed the paperwork on Oct. 1, and if Butler were still a Maryland resident at the time, those papers are no good, and he has to sign new ones after she actually establishes California residence.
But isn't Butler going to be a California inhabitant by Wednesday anyway? Not necessarily. Article I requires that she be an "inhabitant" of California when elected. My understanding is that this requirement is coextensive to the Fourteenth Amendment's requirement that one "reside" in California to be a California citizen. To establish that particular kind of ongoing residence, also known as "domicile," traditionally requires that one be present at one's new home and have the intention of remaining there. (Representing the state in the Senate would of course be a legally acceptable reason for then leaving again.) Given that Sen. Feinstein passed away only on Sept. 29, it's unclear whether Butler will have actually returned to her California domicile sometime between the point at which she formed the intention to become a Californian again and the point at which Gov. Newsom would appoint her (or re-appoint her).
Moreover, the Senate might be legitimately unsure that there's a bona fide intention to return to California. While registering to vote is evidence of such an intention, and while plenty of people are willing to move states for a job (especially for a job like this!), residence is often the subject of a good deal of litigation—e.g., when it matters for tax purposes. It might be relevant, for example, whether Butler has been making any other arrangements reflecting her present intention to return to California full-time if not reelected (or if not seeking reelection) in 2024.
But isn't this all up to the courts to decide? No. Under Art. I, § 5, cl. 1., "[e]ach House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members." That means the Senate is the final tribunal to decide when Butler is eligible to serve. In Powell v. McCormack, the Supreme Court claimed the power to require a House of Congress to seat a member excluded for reasons other than the constitutionally listed qualifications. But here the Senate would be judging Butler's residence under Clause 3, and not (as in Powell) issues unrelated to her constitutional qualifications.
But isn't this all an insane technicality? Only sort of! For one thing, we should all remember the dictum of the late Judge James Clinkscales Hill, when a lawyer in front of him referred to a rule as a "technicality":
Counselor, a wise old judge once said to me: "A 'technicality' is another word for a rule of law on which you lose. A rule of law on which you win is a 'cornerstone of justice.'"
When someone is standing with one foot on each side of a border, of course the border looks like a silly technicality. But we draw arbitrary lines, not to govern the cases that go right up to the line, but to make sure that the heartland cases—the ones far away from the lines—are decided correctly. If Newsom had appointed Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer instead, she would obviously have been ineligible, and excluding the obvious cases means having a rule that's applied to non-obvious cases too.
For another, the Constitution might have had good reason for wanting Senate candidates to be state residents before, rather than after, they're officially chosen. The Senate is one of the "political safeguards of federalism"; it's there to make sure that the interests of each state's residents receive equal representation in one of the national councils. Maybe that's a bad idea, but it's clearly the system we have.
Picking someone to represent Californians' interests who had actually left the state without the intention of returning, and who hadn't moved back to the state at the time of his or her selection, would arguably interfere with this goal. It might make agreement on abstract political issues, not community fellow-feeling, the governing standard of representation. Maybe that's a good idea, but it's clearly not the system we have.
So while Butler and Newsom still have a chance to dot all their i's and cross all their t's before Wednesday, the Senate will have a real choice before it if they don't.
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Technicalities to deny the perfect "check all the boxes" candidate for the seat
"Check all the boxes" is a more common consideration than some people would like to believe.
How many Volokh Conspirators are non-white, for example?
Why does that matter? Who is being the racialist here?
The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.
You continue to get it backwards in your trolling. You have no evidence that this blog, for example, excludes anyone on the basis of race. You, on the other hand, have admitted a desire to do just that. You also applaud the governor of California for appointing someone based on a racial criteria. That is always wrong, no matter whether the criteria is black or white.
The perfect solution to combat racism is more racism
Really? Round here the best way to combat racism is to deny it exists, consider it best forgotten, and claim that only white people experience racism these days.
Yes, a voluntary association, with no restrictions, is exactly the same thing as a conscious decision to pick someone based solely on racial and gender criteria.
That was stupid even for you. And that's a low bar, indeed.
Dems care more about her gender and skin color than trifling constitutional issues. They'll ram it through.
Does the Volokh Conspiracy care about gender and skin color -- or are you a (convenient) (occasional) believer in odds-defying happenstance?
Carry on, clingers.
"gender and skin color"
Don't forget her sexual choice.
What "sexual choice," Bob?
When did you "choose" your sexual orientation? What criteria guided your "choice"? Did you try multiple orientations to see what you liked best?
Its either a choice or a genetic defect.
Don't be so hard on yourself.
We must start testing to absolutely guaranty equality, let the equality drivers set the percentage requirements. (Expect some infighting).
"a 2014 study of 23andMe customers found that around 5,200, or roughly 3.5 percent, of 148,789 self-identified European Americans had 1 percent or more African ancestry, meaning they had a probable black ancestor going back about six generations or less."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/social-issues/they-considered-themselves-white-but-dna-tests-told-a-more-complex-story/2018/02/06/16215d1a-e181-11e7-8679-a9728984779c_story.html
Kinda racist to come out blindly to say this just based on her gender skin color and the party that picked her.
Seems quite the big deal to you guys, though.
If it comes to a vote, she's a shoe-in, as even without Feinstein the Republicans have only 48 votes, and 49 beats 48. The Democrats could even afford to lose another vote, and just have Harris break the tie.
She's not going to lose any votes on the left over a little thing like her appointment being unconstitutional.
you got the right answer , but with the wrong math, It will be 50-49.
Why spoil the beauty of a thing with legality?
So the "when elected" requirement is still good law, and its most natural reading would include [something completely different from actually being elected].
What a pitiful excuse for sound legal analysis. And of course it's deliberately buried in the middle of the post so as not to raise attention. Is HLS really sending its best? Maybe so in this case.
What a pitiful excuse for a sound comment on a very clear subject. Did you just go to the middle of the article to find what you wanted to bitch about? If he had led with what you bitch about here, would you have bitched about what ended up in the middle?
Something has to lead, something has to be in the middle, and everything has to be somewhere. Perhaps you could enlighten everyone by posting what order you think all of his arguments should have been in.
Wow, way to avoid the merits of my critique, and to mischaracterize it in the process. Care to try again?
You critique was entirely lacking in "merits". There are no merits to critique as you never say what about the article's argument is unsound or why.
Your argument was entirely related to the positioning of one point in the original discussion.
I addressed that.
What in tarnation are you warbling about now?
I’ve got to agree with Matthew – there were no merits in your critique to address. All you offered was an unexplained opinion (that it’s “a pitiful excuse”) and some whining about positioning in the article.
"Way to avoid the merits of my critique, and to mischaracterize it in the process."
Maybe I can help. Let's look at your post, line by line:
"What a pitiful excuse for sound legal analysis."
There are no "merits" to respond to here, it's subjective.
"And of course it’s deliberately buried in the middle of the post so as not to raise attention."
No merits here, either. This is a complaint about the placement of words in a post, coupled with apparent mind-reading.
"Is HLS really sending its best? Maybe so in this case."
This is just an ad hominem, no merits to be found.
Satisfied now?
A lot of concern but not a lot of authority on what makes one an inhabitant, or even that appointed is really the equivalent of elected (although that seems a reasonable interpretation of temporary appointment power).
Is there some law or precedent regarding how long it takes to become an inhabitant of a state? It was enough for Dick Cheney to have a physical presence in Wyoming and an intent that it be his place of habitation. Being in the state and owning a house there seems plenty, if she says she intends it to be her place of habitation.
Cheney did, at least, relocate to Wyoming, and in plenty of time. I think Eugene is suggesting that Butler hasn't yet, and might not actually get it done in time.
Not that it will actually matter, because a majority of the Senate Simply. Won't. Care.
Who is Eugene?
You got me, I was going off the tone, didn't look at the byline. Oops.
Dick Cheney to have a physical presence in Wyoming and an intent that it be his place of habitation
Except, of course, that his intent was to move to Washington DC. (As indeed he did.)
Is there authority that an individual can't be an inhabitant of more than one state?
During the debates in 1787 they changed "resident" to "inhabitant" to avoid troublemakers arguing that a member of Congress who spent most of the year in D.C. was no longer a resident of their district so could no longer represent it.
Is that true? My recollection was that the drafters of the constitution assumed that Congress would only sit a few months each year.
"Congress would only sit a few months each year."
My long time recommendation.
The federal legislature should meet during January and February in an unheated barn in Topeka KS, and during July and August in an unairconditioned quonset hut in Big Bend TX. With only two aides and a secretary.
That way you'd be guaranteed to end up with unconstrained presidential power. But you do you.
Does congress actually constrain presidential power? The only real way I currently see them doing so is denying appointments. And that's not inhibited at all by poor meeting conditions.
Half true now that I looked it up instead of relying on my lying memory.
Starting at the bottom of page 216 is the discussion of inhabitant vs. resident and for how long:
So Wilson's concern was that "resident" could be interpreted to mean "continuously resident", not that Congress would meet for most of the year.
Worthless, power-hungry hackery goes all the way to the bone, and is timeless.
“The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there. Except for power hungry worthless hackery.”
But we knew this already, that forms the fundamental design principle of the Constitution.
I wonder what their opinion was on tyrant kings expropriating the estates of political rivals?
1787, DC? Technically, they didn't decide on DC until a few years later, and the Capitol could have remained in Pennsylvania.
You are correct, of course.
It is fair to bring up the Cheney relocation. It is also fair to note that Cheney had significant contacts with Wyoming. What are Butler's contacts with California?
Long time resident of CA, temporarily living in Maryland
Gawd what a bunch of crap
If she had never lived in CA, I might see the point
I do not consider it a bunch of crap.
Prof. Sachs' posting record might support an inference of Volokh-standard partisanship (as much as, say, high-minded scholarship) here, but that still would not make the issue a bunch of crap.
As hard as it is to convince CA that you've actually left, it's quite possible the state still has her listed as a resident.
Does she pay CA state income tax annually?
Seems like a good test to me, as well. But if she is a dual taxpayer (pays state tax in both jurisdictions), then what?
Why do you assume her move to Maryland was only temporary? Any evidence to back that up?
According to Wikipedia:
Moved to CA in 2009 and lived there through 2021. Apparently, she still has a home in the state. She was a UC Regent for a portion of that time.
She's a shrewd choice for temporarily holding the senate seat, IMHO, and I suspect the legal questions can be resolved in several ways, including by officially appointing her after she re-registers to vote in California.
Let's face it, the people complaining about a black, queer woman being appointed to the Senate for a year would likely not complain had it been anyone else in any other state. This sort of appointment happens all the time as politicians die or get accused of crimes. Why is this particular appointment worth all this emotion?
Laphonza??
wasn't she that Blonde Black chick from "Napoleon Dynamite"??
nice smile (don't they all?)
but I'd "Vote for Pedro"
He's got Skills!
unlike Calvin Loathsome, wonder how much he paid Pat Riley
for his Toupee?
Frank
Even California’s Senator refuses to live in California.
Same with Al Gore who did win his home state/district of DC in 2000
She "refuses?" Sounds like you made that up. Cite?
How many Congress members would tolerate too close an inquiry into where they lived when they were elected, or at least re-elected? How many of them would turn out to be residents of D. C., Maryland or Virginia (even the Congress members not officially *from* Maryland and Virginia)?
Exactly. Now that Congress is in session for most of the year, strict enforcement of the domicile requirement would lead to some combination of members of congress being unable to attend meetings of Congress, Congress being unable to meet for much of the year, and lots of wasteful travelling.
It would be better to replace the domicile requirement with something more future-proof, like a requirement that the candidate has lived in the State for x years in their life, or y years before a) they were first elected or b) the election they are about to stand in if they're not the incumbent.
"Congress being unable to meet for much of the year"
Bonus!
"and lots of wasteful travelling."
Anything that reduces that amount of awful legislation coming out of Congress is not a waste.
Keep electing Republicans and you don't have to worry about them actually doing something except infighting.
Infighting beats group think any day.
Good thing the GOP doesn't have to worry about group think...
But everyone else has to worry about Marxist group think.
Those fail if a state is added.
Well, they might allow a person to represent more than one state, that is true. But if a person has a genuine connection to more than one state, I’m not sure why they shouldn't be able to represent whichever state(s) they have a connection to.
(Of course, for a sufficiently high value of x and y the issue becomes academic.)
To add: Mitt Romney used to be the governor of Massachusetts. It seems perfectly fine to make him eligible for life to be a Senator for Massachusetts on that basis.
(E.g. a constitutional criterion that makes people eligible for a seat in Congress on behalf of a state if they've previously been elected to statewide office in that state.)
The president has to have lived in the country for 14 years, so it's not like they couldn't have written the Senate requirements another way (and the President has to have been a resident for that time rather than an inhabitant; endless opportunity for academic papers on the original meanings of each word).
BTW, I am less bothered by the fact that she was chosen for racial/gender/sexuality reasons, than the fact that she is a radical leftist. That shows where the Democratic party is today.
Yes, a radical leftist who used to work for Airbnb. Don't be silly.
Does AirBnB conduct rigorous ideological screening to avoid hiring radical leftists?
Self-selection is a thing.
Even radicals like money
"...she was chosen for racial/gender/sexuality reasons..."
"...she is a radical leftist..."
Could there be a connection? Hmmm...
see:
- Obama, Barack H.
- https://reason.com/2020/12/20/would-the-aclu-still-defend-nazis-right-to-march-in-skokie/?comments=true#comment-8649081
- https://www.johnderbyshire.com/Opinions/RadioDerb/2022-02-18.html#05
Meh... the term "radical leftist" gets applied to just about anyone left of Putin these days. It's used in this blog to define some GOP members (aka: RINOs) even. Does it have any other meaning other than denoting the speaker is out of touch with reality and hyperventilating a bit?
The GOP calls everyone the Dems even glance at a radical leftist.
Your concerns are overdetermined.
In another forum, members have been debating whether Butler could win reelection. And while most think she has an uphill battle, the consensus is that it's too early to say because (among other things) we don't even know where she's positioned. Would she be running in the leftist Barbara Lee lane, or as a centrist directly going after Porter/Schiff, or something else?
And yet you, who almost certainly never heard of her before yesterday (not an attack — I certainly hadn't) are already sure she's a "radical leftist."
Selecting such a person is a perversion of the purpose of the Senate to represent the state legislature. I have to wonder if this would happen without 17A.
Is there honestly no better representative in the entire most populated state of CA?
the purpose of the Senate to represent the state legislature
The what now???
Having trouble reading? Or just ignorant of history? Yes, the Senate is intended to represent the States' interests in the US federal system. That's why there are two Senators per State regardless of size or population and in contrast to the House which represents the People directly.
You've admitted to not being from the US so your ignorance is excusable. But you really should take the time to actually learn things you keep pontificating about.
Even if that's true, rrgg didn't say "represent the state's interests." He said "represent the state legislature."
"[e]ach House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members."
Which is the end of the issue.
Seriously, can law professors stop this? Nobody cares about their answers to political questions. The Senate doesn't care what they think is an impeachable offense, and it also doesn't care what law professors think about this.
The Constitution grants certain powers to the political branches, and the whole point of such grants is to take those issues OUT of the legal process so that essentially political decisions can be made. And part of that original intent and understanding IS that Congress will ignore law professors-- if the framers had wanted law professors to have influence, they would have gave the power to the courts.
Just stop it. It's not unconstitutional because the Senate isn't going to hold it unconstitutional, and that is the end of the matter.
Just because a decision is assigned to the political branches doesn't mean it's not a legal question.
I don't know what "legal question" means in this context. It's not a question to be decided by legal principles, and it was specifically a question intended to be removed from the realm of law professors and not decided based on legal criteria.
If you want to say despite that, it is still legal in the sense that it makes law, fine, but it's really outside the realm of law professors, and these sorts of opinions are special pleading by the profession that nobody cares what they think on something they feel they should get a say over.
Members of Congress take an oath to uphold the Constitution. Which is the law of the land -- it even says so, rigbht in it: "supreme Law of the Land."
The fact that a decision is assigned to the political branches (like Congress) does not mean it's a free-for all, and they can do whatever is politically expedient and just trash the terms of the Constitution. The presumption of the framers is that the members of Congress will in good faith carry out their duties in the Constitution.
As for law professors, they have no power, and so do not have a "realm" over anything. They can simply point out what a particular section of the Constitution means, and call on the members of Congress to uphold their oaths and implement it.
You should not subscribe to constitutional theories that assume the framers were idiots.
They knew that elected partisan officials were not going to scrupulously apply legal tests. So when they assigned tasks to those branches, rather than assuming they were imbeciles who thought "these politicians will follow the letter of the Constitution even if it is politically unpopular" they were making a choice to specifically disempower law professors and strict interpretation of the Constitution.
So your claim is that the authors knew and intended that the constitutional text would be ignored the Senate. And because it was part of the plan, we all have to be happy and accepting when they do it. And law professors have to be especially happy and accepting.
Let me know if I misunderstand your theory.
BTW, I realize this one is a close case. But suppose the Senate decided to ignore election results and readmit a colleague who had lost an election. Or decided to let Wyoming have five senators. Does your theory that law professors may not state an opinion still hold?
My theory is that whenever the Framers assigned a call to Congress, because they were not idiots, they understood that constitutional text might get ignored, stretched, or basically disregarded, and decided that leaving the issue in Congress' control was more important than "getting the Constitution right" or "applying the rules of legal interpretation to the text".
Suppose a senator undisputedly loses his reelection bid. Can his buddies in the senate decide to seat him for another term anyway, and screw the election?
Or, a variation. Can the Senators decide they will only seat white males? Or only persons over 80?
Why did they bother putting in constraints like, "...who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen." if they thought they'd just be ignored?
They figured a future Congress might care about the issue and decide to enforce it?
(But what they didn't think would happen is that Congress would follow the demands of jealous law professors as to when to do it.)
This still doesn't get any less wrong no matter how many times you say this. You're wrong about what they thought and why they thought it, and it's you deciding they were idiots, writing actual law that they didn't expect or want to be followed.
Bored Lawyer, Chag Semeach. How would this actually work, as you see it, in reality? Does a Senator have to formally object to seating the new designee...what process takes over at that point?
Maybe Dilan sees this and takes a crack at answering.
OK, who is allowed to have an opinion on this?
Everyone except law professors?
In a sense, maybe?
The premise of legal scholarship is that courts are going to be influenced by it? Otherwise it is just onanism.
So in these areas, legal scholarship is purely onanistic, which means it isn't really scholarship. It's just law professors demanding in on stuff that the Constitution excludes them from having a say over.
"Otherwise it is just onanism."
Unlike posting about legal scholarship in the comments section, which is fully in line with Leviticus.
California voters.
Boy, that was easy.
So if Eugene Volokh (UCLA) had posted the same article, you’d think his words carry more weight?
Interesting that you're using precisely the same argument that the Trumpists use on Art XIV Sec 3 disqualification. If the voters, via the electoral college, decide to blow off that section, they are entitled to.
Yes, it is.
I'm with you on this. Legalism has a fairly narrow context. It's something you can practically apply only AFTER the powers that be have exercised the powers they have.
In this case, all Congress has to say is "she's in", and that's that.
Interesting. Suppose Gavin Newsome decided to nominate fourteen senators to fill the vacancy instead of just one. The Democrats already in the Senate, by a vote of 50+VP to 50, decide all fourteen of them are in, so that CA gets 15 votes.
Are you and Esper going to say that's absolutely legitimate, and that furthermore law professors have some kind of obligation to refrain from public comment on the issue?
I think you’re missing the point. We aren’t saying the states can make up any rules they like (duh), we’re saying that going to the mattresses on a legal point of technicality in this case is an exercise in futility.
Why? Because the rule is that Congress gets to decide to accept a temporary nomination, or not. It’s no use arguing the technical fine points. They say yay or nay, end of discussion.
The meta point here is that everything operates in a scope and a context. For some topics, Congress is not permitted to make any law, for example.
Of course law professors can opine just like the rest of us, but it would be nice of them to acknowledge that their technical arguments are irrelevant -- a little Constitutional humility would serve them well.
This is dumb. It might be true in some sense that their technical arguments are irrelevant after the fact: if the Senate decides to seat a 25-year old citizen of Sweden, a law professor saying, "Hey, they can't do that" doesn't accomplish anything.¹ But their technical arguments before the fact are just not irrelevant, no matter how much Dilan wants to pretend they are. Many if not most members of Congress do actually care if they're doing what they're allowed to be doing.
¹Even so, it's still stupid to attack them for it, as Dilan and you are doing. That their opinions on the subject would have no legal force would not distinguish those opinions from their opinions on any legal (as opposed to political) questions. "Law professors should not opine about what the law is" is possibly one of the dumbest takes ever.
Were "law professors" even a thing when the Constitution was written? Especially in a role of scholarly debaters rather than vocational school teachers?
Yet again, Democrats show they intend to not serve the public.
Normally it would be hard to convey that intention with an appointment, but Newsom managed to do it by appointing someone living in another state.
You’re raging at trifles and your connection to intent doesn't make sense.
Dr Oz how are ye.
If we're going on the literal meaning of the words chosen, there's no requirement to be a resident of California at the time appointed for a vacancy. Maybe the intention was for the vacancy clause to track the language of the qualifications clause, but I thought textualists look to the meaning of words, not the subjective intent of the drafters.
That being said, I agree that the Senate will have to determine the qualifications of its member.
"but I thought textualists look to the meaning of words, not the subjective intent of the drafters."
That would include the meaning of the text taken as a whole, not just bits and pieces considered in isolation.
Always a bright side, she will owe 2023 income taxes to MD and CA if both enforce their laws. Two properties, property taxes on both. If MD mortgaged, changing principal residence may be a problem. Her estate plan will require some updating by MD and CA counsel. Car registrations, all financial records will need updating. Let's see if she unregisters to vote in MD.
Every state that has a state income tax has a provision for credit for taxes paid to other states. If she is determined to be MD resident , she will get a credit for state income taxes paid to CA (not to exceed the MD tax on that same income), With similar result if determined to be CA resident. Same basic rule applied if you are a resident of any state and you state source income from another source. In that case, she will pay state income tax on that state's source income and get a credit for taxes paid to another state.
In this case, she will most likely be considered a part year resident of both states. MD from 1.1.23 through early october 2023 and CA resident from the date of the move to CA through 12.31.2023.
I do not know about CA, MD but NY & NJ prorate tax credits using a formula with spousal income, non NY, NJ state income, pro rated to federal income (carried to three or four decimal points) to reduce the credit. It is not one to one but capped at a lower percentage. One reason I left.
It takes six months of continuous residency to buy a hunting or fishing license and pay the lower resident fee vs. the higher non-resident fee. You can't buy a handgun in California unless you have a California Real ID or driver license and have proof of residence from a government agency or utility company.
DMV goes the other direction. If you are in the state for 30 days or more you MUST register any vehicle you have in the state with your California address and pay the associated DMV fees.
At the end of the day residency in California depends on what's best for the treasury in California. Since our soon to be new senator can easily meet the residency qualifications the Senate should just seat her.
"[1] Courts and legal writers usually distinguish "domicile" and "residence," so that "domicile" is the one location with which for legal purposes a person is considered to have the most settled and permanent connection, the place where he intends to remain and to which, whenever he is absent, he has the intention of returning, but which the law may also assign to him constructively; whereas "residence" connotes any factual place of abode of some permanency, more than a mere temporary sojourn. [2] "Domicile" normally is the more comprehensive term, in that it includes both the act of residence and an intention to remain; a person may have only one domicile at a given time, but he may have more than one physical residence separate from his domicile, and at the same time. (28 C.J.S. "Domicile," § 1, p. 1 et seq.; 16 Cal.Jur.2d "Domicile," §§ 2-3, pp. 647-649.) [3] But statutes do not always make this distinction in the employment of those words. They frequently use "residence" and "resident" in the legal meaning of "domicile" and "domiciliary," and at other times in the meaning of factual residence or in still other shades of meaning."
https://law.justia.com/cases/california/supreme-court/2d/45/235.html
More Democrat double standards. I remember the hassle made by the Democrats over Rick Santorum.
On a related note, what ever happened with the Mark Meadows voter registration issue?
"But isn't Butler going to be a California inhabitant by Wednesday anyway? Not necessarily. Article I requires that she be an "inhabitant" of California when elected. My understanding is that this requirement is coextensive to the Fourteenth Amendment's requirement that one "reside" in California to be a California citizen. To establish that particular kind of ongoing residence, also known as "domicile," traditionally requires that one be present at one's new home and have the intention of remaining there."
Stephen, as to your point that one reside (actually domiciled) In California to be a citizen of California, ought not California's requirements for such be the standard by which this is judged? If those requirements must be met by any and every one, shouldn't also apply in this instance also? I ask because California requires a person be a resident (domiciled) in the state for a period of 9 months to be considered a legal resident.
Looking back a few years, Hag Hillary the Has-been Hoodlum was a senator from New York, not Arkansas. And her husband never had sexual relations with the woman upon whose clothing a generous sample of his DNA appeared -- and she had a one on 7 Trillion chance of profiting from Whitewater... more than enough of a chance to defeat any claim of probable cause.
Instant Constitutionality is dependent upon the people making the argument, but longer-term Constitutionality is not. In this instance, roughly 75% of voting Americans take issue with the position held by the Governor of California: regardless of any decision by the Senate, the decision by the Governor has reduced his chances of becoming President. Looking back a few years, American voters denied Hag Hillary the Has-been Hoodlum the presidency... selecting Donald Trump instead. Voters aren't as easily duped as many pundits and academics would prefer to believe.
Does anyone know if the home she owns is rented out? If it is and is under a traditional rental contract, it would be a stretch to use that to help justify her claim to California residency.
Also, if rented, are the tenants protected by California's or a local "just cause eviction" law which doesn't include "I wanna be a US Senator" as a "just cause"?
According to " something I read on the internet ", she purchased the CA property in 2018 and as of 2021, the property was rented out.
Depending on the location of the house, the local rules could vary a bit but the state has an exemption for single family homes where the owner can evict the renter after the initial contract expired if they will be moving into the home themselves.
The law doesn't require that you own the home you live in to qualify for political office, regardless. She has real assets in California, a recent history of holding a state office (university regent), and over a decade of political experience living the state.
The position is interim only; it will be filled next year in the general election.
"The position is interim only ..."
An individual in the state for temporary or transitory purpose, is, by state definition, not a resident of the state. Yet that is exactly why it is expected she will take some superfluous actions, like registering to vote, in order to appear to be a resident.
Is this a good time to suggest repealing the 17th amendment?
What difference, at this point, does it make?
It's never a good time.
Repealing the 17th would be idiotic.
Prof. Sachs,
I want you to be correct in questioning the appointment of "senator-to-be-butler"; and, yet as you admit, this line of interrogatory is not within your "scope of 'authority'".
Nevertheless, "playing by the 'strict' rules" of the "dead document", please consider that NYS has had at least two "professional 'diplomats'" of the pre-"War-to-End-All-Wars" ilk: namely RF Kennedy ('65-'68); and 'she who shall not be named' ('01-'09); i.e., "independent contractors" who will serve for the "best and highest offer" (at the present, let's ignore the inverse (and its likelihood), wherein the candidate controls the "purse").
How do these aforementioned imposters differ from "senator-to-be-butler" ? ...
Please disregard the obvious personality, psychological, and other base similarities, and differences.
Only consider my question from a "constitutional perspective" acknowledging that the now standing precedent is SCOTUS' Bruen standard of "text" and "history".
California gets what it deserves.
If a dead guy (Mel Carnahan) can be considered a resident, surely a non-resident can be considered a resident as well.
Entirely bogus--"conclusively". There are no i's nor t's to dot. Whether one "inhabits" a California residence for the purposes of representing the state in Congress is defined by California Elections Code Section 2026 which says that it's where one has filed their affidavit to register to vote:
2026. The domicile of a Member of the Legislature or a Representative in the Congress of the United States shall be conclusively presumed to be at the residence address indicated on that person’s currently filed affidavit of registration, as long as the address is a residence under subdivision (c) of Section 349, notwithstanding that the member or representative may have another residence at which any of the following apply:
[a whole bunch of allowable exceptions including having another residence at which the representative has filed a homeowners exemption or which is used as a residence for the purpose of paying taxes]
The state of California doesn't get to define the meaning of the U.S. Constitution.
Tell us, then. What does it mean to be an "inhabitant" of a state according to the Constitution? The Constitution itself certainly doesn't define that term. Maybe federal law does, but then maybe it defers to the laws of each state how to define it. Also, is being a legal resident of a state according to its laws the same thing as being an inhabitant?
Lastly, why are you so against states' rights that you don't think a state gets to decide for itself what specific conditions qualify a person as being an "inhabitant" able to represent it in Congress when the Constitution is silent on those specifics?
"The way to stop violence is to stop being violent (so much for self defense!)."
If those inclined to unprovoked violence stopped being violent, there would be no need for self defense.
So you deny the underlying truth of the statement, because you presume that some will continue to discriminate? I realize that is the justification for CRT.
There would be no need for self-defense if others didn't violate the principle that violence is wrong.
Note that I am not saying that race should always be ignored. I think it salutary to do specific racial outreach for hiring, in an attempt to create a diverse pool of candidates. But racial consideration should end once that pool is established. Likewise, communities historically injured by past racial discrimination do deserve special remedial attention. Unfortunately, urban education isn't as simple a problem to solve as spending/giving away more money. Because in many cases, such a blank check mindset has not improved anything, but we're not allowed to point that out. The answer always is we didn't spend enough.
As always, obfuscating and dissembling.
We are talking about breaking the circle, not finishing it.
If you don’t recognize a difference between the two, I’m not sure what else there is to say.
Making sure you don’t miss qualified candidates because of a disadvantaged socioeconomic background isn’t racial discrimination. It’s the ultimate merit based approach. The governor of California (just like Biden’s running mate selection) has done the opposite, by excluding candidates just because of their race. I certainly don’t deny that it may be smart politics to select based on race. Just like VP’s historically have been picked based on regional/ideological balance. But when your party's thing is that racial discrimination is bad, it's not a good look to boast about doing otherwise.
What unconscious racial bias is involved in this blog? It posts on matters of legal interest. Anyone of any race, gender or sexual orientation can sign up here.
Okay, I’ll be pedantic in my clarification: there is a difference between being considered for a job, versus getting the job.
I’ve got 2 words for why competence shouldn’t trump identity politics even for “representation”: Kamala Harris
For anyone being honest, politicos wouldn’t be quite so nervous about Biden’s reelection prospects if he had an heir apparent who was any good at politics.
I also continued to be puzzled that the California Democratic Party is apparently so racist that minorities can only adequately be represented by people who look like them. But I guess I should keep in mind the recent hot mic moment in Los Angeles a while back. Perhaps it really is a spoils system.
Certainly, in the context of the Democratic Party, having minority candidates achieve high office does have objective political value. I just think it would be more valuable to have one chosen after serious public consideration of all possible candidates. Or maybe that’s a bridge too far to suggest that with a straight face. The soft bigotry of low expectations and all that.
" But when your party’s thing is that racial discrimination is bad, it’s not a good look to boast about doing otherwise."
But this wasn't the Republican party doing anything, so why bring that up?
"For anyone being honest..." (translation: if you disagree with me, you're a liar.)
" why competence shouldn’t trump identity politics even for 'representation'..." I think you meant "should" and then you go on to pretend that every other VP in history hasn't been exactly as milquetoast as, say, George Bush (the first), Cheney, Gore, Biden, or Pence. It's a job requirement to hover in the background. All of these men, and Kamala, had their own successful business and/or political achievements before accepting the offer to run for VP. Discounting the one non-white male in the list as someone especially bad without any critical comparison is, well, suspect.
" I just think it would be more valuable to have one chosen after serious public consideration of all possible candidates." Well, at least you agree with Newsom on this, which is why he clearly stated the interim senator would not be someone running for office in 2024 so that Californians can select from a broad slate without one of them having the added benefit of being appointed a year earlier and given an incumbent's edge.
It's notable that the two persons you directly complained about are women of color even while trying to build a case for why your point really was about a principle not related to race.