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The Solicitor General Says It Is Not "Ever Too Late" to Get A Statute Right
Is the federal government giving up on statutory stare decisis?
Today's oral argument in United States v. Texas featured an interesting exchange between Chief Justice John Roberts and Solicitor General Elizabeth Prelogar on whether the Adminsitrative Procedure Act allows courts to vacate agency decisions. From the transcript:
GENERAL PRELOGAR: . . . our argument is that if you actually drill down on the text of 706 and look at its context and also look at the history of the APA, which was not intended to create any kinds of new remedies but instead to simply
provide for the remedies that had preexisted the statute's enactment and the traditional forms of legal action under Section 703, it demonstrates that the courts have erred here.CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS: How --
GENERAL PRELOGAR: And I don't think
CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS: -- how many cases would you say that we have issued over the past year, decade, whatever, where we have upheld decisions vacating agency rulings under the APA?
GENERAL PRELOGAR: The Court has --
CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS: Thousands?
GENERAL PRELOGAR: -- done it in a -- in a number of cases. Some of those involve special statutory review provisions, so I do want to box those off. But I acknowledge, yes, the Court has sometimes affirmed decisions that we think the agency --
CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS: No, no, sometimes, over and over and over again.
GENERAL PRELOGAR: But also never with attention to the remedial arguments that we're making here, and I -- I don't think it's ever too late for this Court to give the statute its proper construction when you actually look at its text, context, and history.
Set aside the particular questions involving the proper scope of remedial authority courts have under the APA. In this statement (which was not followed up on), the Solicitor General appears to be saying that statutory stare decisis should not stand in the way of getting a statute right in light of its text, context, and history. This is quite a claim, and one that I wish the justices had pressed on. Among other things (as Ed Whelan notes here) this claim could have implications in other cases currently before the Court, including the cases challenging university admission policies, as the relevant precedents rest on a contested interpretation of Title VI.
I hope to have more to say about the United States v. Texas argument once I have had the chance to listen to the whole thing.
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I am finding this hilarious -- we had four years of national injunctions and now the major concern about national injunctions. Well that horse left the barn in 2017...
That you first learned about something in 2017 does not mean that it first appeared in 2017.
That you read his comment does not mean that you understood it, and that you replied to it does not mean you responded to it.
Prelogar: statutory stare decisis for thee but not for me.
Desperate times call for desperate arguments.or something.
So what are these statutes we’ve been getting wrong forever that y’all keep chortling about? Whelan brings up Title VI, but no one in favor of affirmative action is arguing it should stand just due to long practice that I can see.
Is your hypothesis that Prelogar and the US really support the lower court's vacatur, but only argue against it because of stare decisis?
We could go back to the Slaughter-House cases or West Coast Hotel Co. v. Parrish for cases where the Supreme Court changed its mind about not only statutes but the Constitution. If getting statutes right is sufficient reason to discard stare decisis, why should the Constitution be less worthy of getting right?
Arguing in the alternative is a thing that exists.
Statutes are written quite differently (much less intentional vagueness), and interpreted quite differently from the Constitution.
Anyhow, that's a different subject. You didn't answer my question at all.
The point of my first paragraph is that your comment about supporters of affirmative action doesn't make sense: the SG wasn't arguing against a concededly bad idea but saying it should be kept because of stare decisis, so -- as usual -- you invented a double standard that you think your opponents should satisfy.
There are an almost endless parade of things that could be revisited if we discount stare decisis, which was exactly Roberts' point. Neither you nor Prelogar answered his question, you just pretended it's an imaginary concern.
First, the OP, and Roberts, and the SG, are all explicitly only about statutes. When they could use more general language, they talk about statutes or specifically the APA. You're the one bringing in other stuff.
Second, it's not my double standard - Constitutional liquidation is a thing that exists. https://reason.com/volokh/2018/07/16/understanding-constitutional-liquidation/
Your continual running away from statutes tells me you, at least, have no response. So far as you are concerned, there is no double standard here, the SG is conceding nothing, despite Prof. Adler's intimation.
It will always be the case that many precedents rest on a contested interpretation of such and such. It's true of a bunch of the most recently overturned precedents.
It is a little surprising to hear Prelogar sounding like Justice Thomas.
The left will eventually have to join the conservative view that precedents should be easy to overturn. They will need it for the next time that court composition flips. That's many decades away though. By then the conservative view about precedents will sound a lot like the left's does today. Lucky for many of us, we'll be long dead by then.
Isn't Volokh currently running a set of posts about how a "good lawyer" will make the most absurd arguments if they think it'll win the jury/judge?
In that context, that the solicitor general is arguing against stare decisis isn't surprising. After all, the current court has shown --multiple times-- that it has no fondness or respect for it.
Is it surprising that Roberts is sort of arguing in favor of it?
Maybe he only likes the incremental kind of ignoring stare decisis?
“well regulated militia”
I'm curious how many times, and how many different ways, it must be explained to you that you are wrong?
Worry about regulating your HIV infected penis before worrying about our guns.
I don't think statutory stare decisis applies here, because the SG's argument is that neither SCOTUS nor the DC Circuit has ever been faced with the question of whether "set aside" means "vacatur."
The DC Circuit started doing it and doing it and doing it, and SCOTUS too. But it's like how even if the court granted relief in case X, you can't assume the court found standing, unless they expressly discussed standing in the opinion.
It's different from overturning a statutory interpretation that was contested by the litigants in a prior case.
That seems to agree with Baude's analysis in the post above - that this is actually a case of first impression.
Oops - meant Bray.