Does Weed Cause Strokes and Heart Attacks?
A widely cited study commits so many egregious statistical errors that it's a poster child for junk science.
HD DownloadThirty years ago, the sociologist Craig Reinarman observed that there's something "woven into the very fabric of American culture" that makes us susceptible to believing that a "chemical boogeyman" is to blame for "society's ills." He added that every moral panic about drugs since the 19th century has been fueled by "media magnification" in which the danger of a particular substance is dramatized and distorted.
Now that recreational marijuana is legal in about half of U.S. states, and more Americans are consuming weed than ever before, the chemical bogeyman is back, and he's armed with a new paper in the Journal of the American Heart Association by researchers from Harvard and the University of California, San Francisco.
This study, which was amplified in The New York Times and The Washington Post, commits so many egregious statistical errors that it's a poster child for junk science. The paper would be comical if it didn't offer bad medical advice. The researchers did almost everything wrong.
Which is not to say that the authors committed fraud or misconduct. In fact, they did exactly what Ph.D. students are taught to do, what journal editors look for, what referees approve, what universities reward, and what granting agencies fund. Because the paper uses conventional methods to arrive at false conclusions, it speaks to the profound crisis in academic research.
We've forgotten that the point of scientific studies isn't seeking the approval of institutions. It's the pursuit of truth.
The study's setup is simple enough. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention runs an annual telephone survey to ask people about their health and behavior. The authors looked at rates of three cardiovascular problems in users and nonusers of marijuana.
It's an observational study, not a controlled experiment, which means you can't infer causality. Most researchers are transparent about the limitations of their data.
Not in this case. The authors went so far as to derive a "clinical implication" from their finding, writing that patients should be "advised to avoid smoking cannabis to reduce their risk of premature cardiovascular disease and cardiac events." The media took them at their word.
This is quackery. An observational study simply can't show that quitting marijuana reduces cardiovascular problems.
Observational studies can only show correlation, not causation. And in this case, we can be certain there is no causation because the phone survey measured marijuana use that occurred after the onset of disease. It asked participants about their marijuana use over the last 30 days and about their cardiovascular problems at any point in the past.
How could a bong hit a week ago, or a THC gummy last Saturday, possibly cause someone to have a stroke 10 years ago?
Another problem is that the data don't show the people who had cardiovascular problems; they show the people who survived cardiovascular problems. Let's say hypothetically that marijuana reduced cardiovascular mortality.
We'd expect the study to show more marijuana users with heart disease and stroke because they would be alive to report their cardiovascular problems in the phone survey. More of the nonusers who had cardiovascular problems would be too dead to respond.
This is for the same reason that people who wear motorcycle helmets are hospitalized more often for accidents—because three times as many non–helmet wearers die before they get to the hospital.
Though the data come from phone surveys, the authors make no allowance for the unreliability of what people might tell a stranger on the phone about their health and drug habits.
The researchers even had the gall to assert that surveys of this kind tend to be accurate, while referencing only two studies in support of that claim—a 1982 paper that found that such data are "so unreliable" as to be almost impossible to interpret and a 2004 study showing that about half of self-reported cardiovascular problems were fictitious.
Worse, the fictitious self-reports weren't random, but were much higher for some groups than others, which would distort any findings.
The researchers also had to deal with the other behaviors that correlate with marijuana use and are known to impact cardiovascular health. Marijuana users were more likely to be current and former tobacco smokers, more were men, and they drank more, all of which you'd expect to correlate with cardiovascular problems.
In fact, marijuana users in the study had fewer of all three types of cardiovascular problems measured in the study—an inconvenient point that the authors only mention in one jargony sentence late in the paper.
Coronary heart disease, for example, afflicted more nonusers of marijuana than either daily or nondaily users.
This doesn't necessarily negate the authors' thesis. To drill down into the data, they should have tried to find a meaningful subgroup—like overweight middle-aged men—in which people who used marijuana had more cardiovascular problems. Then they could ask whether marijuana, or a different factor, explained the difference.
So how did the researchers claim to back up their thesis? They tortured the data until they offered a false confession.
The main tool they used was logistic regression. The authors examined the association of marijuana use with strokes and educational attainment.
Here was the rate of strokes for users and nonusers of marijuana based on time spent in school.

As you can see, more education was correlated with fewer strokes. But for each level of education, marijuana users were less likely to have had a stroke than nonusers until college, when the two lines converged.
Based on that chart, it looks like marijuana reduces strokes. Except that correlation doesn't prove causation.
The study authors, however, wanted to use these numbers to support the opposite conclusion. First, they replaced the actual data with a logistic regression. That yielded this chart.

But the data still wouldn't confess. Marijuana users still appear healthier. So the authors kept going. They replaced their regression lines with 95 percent confidence intervals, which are used to show the probability that a population parameter will fall between a set of values. Now there seems to be some doubt about whether marijuana is a benefit or a harm, because the blue is dipping below the orange at points.
Using confidence intervals is inappropriate.
Confidence intervals are useful where we're uncertain about data, but we know exactly what the data are in this case. The uncertainty is not in the original numbers; it was introduced by the researchers when they forced logistic regression on the data.
The authors kept going, adding more variables to the logistic regression, including age, sex, race, alcohol use, smoking history, body mass index, physical activity, and diabetes. In all cases, logistic regression obscured the actual data. It didn't add any information. If marijuana users have fewer cardiovascular problems than nonusers in all subgroups, you don't need logistic regression or anything else to refute that marijuana use is the cause of cardiovascular problems.
The logistic regressions still failed to show a statistically significant increased cardiovascular risk for marijuana users. So next the authors excluded inconvenient data.
When they added age as a test of stroke frequency and marijuana, here's what they came up with.

Note that for obvious reasons stroke frequency drops with increased marijuana use: Older people smoke less weed and have more strokes. That doesn't prove marijuana is good for cardiovascular health. But it does indicate that marijuana is not a major cause of cardiovascular problems, which mainly occur in age groups where marijuana use is rare, while most marijuana use happens in age groups where cardiovascular problems are rare.
Those two points in the upper left represent people older than 74, who had a high rate of strokes and low rate of marijuana use. This population helps to undercut the authors' conclusion that marijuana causes cardiovascular problems. So the authors excluded these two data points from the study, even though they're as meaningful as any other data.
How did the authors explain the decision to throw out relevant data? They asserted that these groups, which have the highest rate of cardiovascular problems, didn't use enough marijuana to be suitable for the study.
That's like trying to prove that college calculus causes binge drinking, but excluding frat boys on the grounds that few of them are math majors. It's appalling. But ignoring contrary data did at last get the confession that the researchers wanted.
I could keep going. For example, the authors didn't report the accuracy of their confidence intervals; they excluded all the survey data from 1988 to 2015 and after 2020 without explaining why; they failed to distinguish between edibles and smoking; they didn't pre-register their hypothesis or use a holdout sample, which makes it impossible to evaluate if their findings were statistically significant; and so on.
So what does this all mean? That prestigious journals publish obvious nonsense; peer review doesn't filter out major errors; partisans and journalists cite papers that match their preferred narrative without reading them, understanding them, or caring about their validity; and researchers are rewarded for Potemkin studies, not the pursuit of truth.
The biggest scandal in academia isn't outright fraud, but these conventional methods.
We're haunted by the chemical boogeyman and the moral panic he engenders.
The only way to stop him is with critical analysis. Statistics should be a way to challenge conventional wisdom and combat irrational fear.
The weapons of science have been turned against us.
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This is a good one.
There was a British committee in WW II which plotted all damage sustained by bombers. They proposed adding more armor in the most extensively damaged locations. Then someone pointed out that these were, by definition, the planes that survived and came back to be tabulated. Much more useful to add armor where the survivors had not been damaged.
"Does Weed Cause Strokes and Heart Attacks?"
Yes. Everything that isn't the covid vaccine has an effect on the heart.
I hear that smoking weed while shaking a duvet really hard is where the risk is.
Climate change and cold showers.
I called my dealer and he says weed cures all ills.
Weed is 100% safe and effective with no downsides !
Does doctor Fauci agree?
"woven into the very fabric of American culture" that makes us susceptible to believing that a "chemical boogeyman" is to blame for "society's ills."
So fentanyl is NOT a problem then...
As long as I don't have to pay for the ambulance and you're not doing it in the public right of way, no. It isn't.
If it weren't for taxpayer expenses related, I'd actually encourage addicts to do MORE of the stuff. Make it a self-solving problem.
Your question should be: Is fentanyl that is not from Chinese sources and was produced in a monitored American facility and tested for purity and was correctly labeled as to dosage NOT a problem?
Are you inferring that there is no human agency involved with fentanayl? That the drug leaps off the table and into a person's mouth without their involvement?
People take drugs. The problem is with people who want to take drugs. Not with the drugs themselves. Most users are responcible and never impact the system. Dumb ass ones are who generate the statistics.
It would not surprise if the study was nonsense, but it is amusing as hell to see this hunkering down in defensive if the health effects of Marijuana are deemed in any way less than beneficial.
The study is clearly garbage. And a good example of how terrible almost all studies like this are.
Would that include the study that showed 2nd hand fentanyl smoke is 100% safe and effective so fentanyl smoking should not be banned on buses while cigarette smoking is an existential threat to the very fabric of humanity?
I can't say I'm familiar with that one. But I'd guess so. Second hand tobacco is another place where there have been a lot of terrible studies with implausible conclusions.
It's strange that you drew that conclusion from this article.
Back in the early days of drug prohibition the government scientists set out to prove Marijuana kills brain cells. So they did an experiment with rhesus monkeys. Four little monkeys were strapped into little monkey sized chairs and a little monkey sized breathing mask was placed over their noses and mouths. They then inhaled nothing but Marijuana smoke for an hour. This was done to them for a month.
Each day scientists strapped the little monkeys into their little chairs and put the little masks over their faces and forced them to breathe smoke for an hour.
After the month was over they killed the monkeys and cut open their heads to count dead brain cells. They also killed a monkey who was strapped to a chair but didn't smoke weed as a control. They counted his dead brain cells.
Amazingly the little monkeys who were forced to breathe smoke for an hour a day for a month had lots of dead brain cells. Thus Science! proved smoking pot kills brain cells and every anti drug add screamed this "fact" as often as they could.
Now, as anyone with an IQ higher than their shoe size can tell you those monkeys were asphyxiated for an hour a day. That could have been apple wood smoke. The same number of brain cells would have died.
The government fought the Freedom of Information Act request to reveal the method of the study for at least a decade. Gee, I wonder why...
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"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."
This study, which was amplified in The New York Times and The Washington Post, commits so many egregious statistical errors that it's a poster child for junk science.
Now do climate change. Or gun violence. Or transgender kids.
Yeah, all that's bullshit too. But that's been shown so often already that it shouldn't need to be bothered with. Did you miss all of the articles in even the regular media about shifty and shady science?
I sure did. By all means, enlighten me.
CC the politicians.
" Now do climate change."
What do you mean by "do" climate change? Climate changes. That's a simple fact. The contentious issue is the cause(s) of climate change.
The post here is about a single study that was badly flawed, and from the rejection of that single study it would be foolish to dismiss its conclusion, which might be supported by a better study.
I just wish my public health officials would get on the same page for the health risks of these “boogeyman” chemicals.
2nd hand cigarette smoke–I’m told– is so deadly that any exposure is a high risk affair. But then I’m told that 2nd hand fentanyl smoke is so safe as to not be a concern, and anyone bitching about it is harshing the mellow of our unhoused who are just trying to have a good time while enjoying the sights and sounds of our robust public transportation systems.
I suspect this is where the transit union is going to discover that the Thing is Never The Thing, The Thing is Always the Revolution.
Reminds me of when the navy monitored our air while welding, and found the levels of iron, nickel, chromium, etc that we were breathing in were within “acceptable levels”
That was just fortified air.
I'm fairly sure those are all in multivitamins.
The global is warming, which is actually cooling, which is actually warming!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2024/06/25/climate-aerosols-shipping-global-cooling/
WHY HAVEN'T THE ICE CAPS MELTED!? WHY IS THE CORAL STILL GROWING!?! WHY ARE RAINFORESTS STILL A THING?! YOU'RE NOT DOING WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO, YOU STUPID DEFIANT PLANET!
Goddamn them breeding polar bears.
Fuck the polar bears. I side with the innocent penguins they eat. Bastards.
Second hand smoke was "proven" a health hazard by the UN back in the 90s.
Nuff said.
not yet ... ~~knocks wood
To me, the only cause of stroke and heart attack is the behavior of politicians.
Every single victim of these events, EVERY SINGLE ONE, was exposed to the behavior of one or more politicians.
Q.E.D.
Exactly the same methodology that brought us..."Marijuana causes psychosis".
My only problem with articles like this is the tendency to only go through this kind of rigor on studies you disagree with. An equally flawed study that claimed marijuana users would live longer would probably just be taken at face value.
In any event, even if the study was 1000% bulletproof, the stuff should still be legal.
It appears that the authors of the study had to torture their data so hard to get the results they wanted because the data actually shows the opposite of what they wanted: a weak correlation between marijuana smoking and _fewer_ strokes and heart attacks.
But of course, correlation is not causation and the subjects were not randomly assigned to smoke pot or not. My guess before seeing any data at all would have been that type A personalities are less likely to smoke pot and more likely to drive themselves to cardiovascular problems, giving a correlation between not smoking pot and strokes and heart attacks – but _not_ indicating that you can improve your chances of a long life by smoking a doobie.