Biden's Out. Harris Is In. Everyone Else Is Screwed.
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In this week's The Reason Roundtable, editors Matt Welch, Katherine Mangu-Ward, Nick Gillespie, and Peter Suderman assess the state of the 2024 presidential race one day after President Joe Biden announced he would not seek reelection.
01:41—President Joe Biden drops out of the presidential race and endorses Vice President Kamala Harris.
32:52—Weekly Listener Question
41:44—Republican National Convention reactions
52:06—This week's cultural recommendations
Mentioned in this podcast:
"Fellow Democrats Force Joe Biden Out of His Reelection Bid," by Eric Boehm
"Biden's Final Flip-Flop," by Jacob Sullum
"BYEden," by Liz Wolfe
"Why Kamala Harris should never be president," by Elizabeth Nolan Brown
"Kamala Harris Hopes You'll Forget Her Record as a Drug Warrior & Draconian Prosecutor," by Katherine Mangu-Ward and Justin Monticello
"Trump's Acceptance Speech Was Too Long—and Very Effective," Nick Gillespie
"Republicans Say Joe Biden Should Quit the Presidency Right Now," by Robby Soave
"It's Been Easy To Forget How Bad Kamala Harris Is," by Elizabeth Nolan Brown
"Could Kamala Harris Be an Anti-War Candidate?" by Matthew Petti
"Getting a Home Depot Employee Fired for Calling for Trump's Assassination Is Still Cancel Culture," by Billy Binion
"Have Republicans Abandoned Free Markets?" by Emma Camp
"Trump Wishes Americans Stayed in Afghanistan To Fight China," by Matthew Petti
"Does MAGA Want Unity and Peace—or Vengeance?" by Zach Weissmueller
"Republicans Don't Even Pretend To Want To Cut Government Anymore," by Eric Boehm
"We Showed Trump Voters the National Debt," by Zach Weissmueller
"Libertarians Are More Politically Homeless Than Ever," by J.D. Tuccille
"Can Trump Unite by Going Light on Policy?" by Christian Britschgi
"MAGA Voters Try To Convince a Libertarian To Vote Trump," by Emma Camp
"Why the New Republican Platform Is Moderate on Abortion," by Elizabeth Nolan Brown
"Republicans Have Completely Abandoned Criminal Justice Reform," by Joe Lancaster
"Vivek's Vision," by Liz Wolfe
"RNC Speakers Give Exaggerated Impression of Immigrant Crime," by Fiona Harrigan
"Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis Bend the Knee to Donald Trump," by Robby Soave
"At the Republican National Convention, War Is Peace," by Matthew Petti
"Trump and Vance's Foreign Policy Is More War Disguised As Anti-War," by Matthew Petti
"Teamsters Boss Sean O'Brien Put Political Spectacle Ahead of His Job," by Eric Boehm
"J.D. Vance Is a Bridge to Trumpism Beyond Trump," by Elizabeth Nolan Brown
"What the Media Hate About J.D. Vance," by Robby Soave
"J.D. Vance Turned an Inspiring Personal Story Into an Unsatisfying Political Sales Pitch," by Eric Boehm
"J.D. Vance Thinks Lina Khan Is Doing a Great Job," by Elizabeth Nolan Brown
"J.D. Vance Completes Trump's Ideological Takeover of the Republican Party," by Matt Welch
"Grand Old Populists," by Liz Wolfe
"Republicans Hammer Biden on Inflation. But Do They Have a Better Plan?" by Billy Binion
"It's Not Racist to Hate the Government," Nick Gillespie
"3 Policies That Are More Racist Than Donald Sterling and Cliven Bundy," Nick Gillespie and Meredith Bragg
"Should NBA Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Be Fired for Racist Remarks?" by Nick Gillespie
"Does Mozilla Dumping Its CEO Over Prop. 8/Anti-Gay-Marriage Stance = McCarthyism?" by Nick Gillespie
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What kind of a libertarian thinks it's even a legit question whether an employer should be held liable for an employee's off-work meanderings?
"A Reason scribe, grasshopper."
The kind that grew up thinking Congress needs to protect platforms from the people they allow to speak on them.
Hey, I'm just having a great time watching Democratic voters getting bent over by their own party. This has been a thing to behold over the last 8 years.
In 2016, yeah, maybe. But I don't think you can say that this year. This year, it seems more like the Team D rank and file voters were told to shut up and go along with Biden despite their general dislike of him, and him dropping out represents a better expression of their general will.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Replaced with the candidate that barely got 2% in their own primary? Not sure about that.
Replaced with any Democrat who is not Biden.
You do understand that the general tenor of Team D voters was very definitely not enthusiastic towards Biden, right?
Edit: Okay, maybe they would hate Manchin or Sinema worse. But I bet that if Harris were running against Biden now in a seriously competitive primary, Harris would get more than 2%.
The very same people who are now gushing over Harris are the ones that days ago were saying Biden is the greatest, smartest, toughest president ever.
It's a cult. Even Trump's own crowd will boo when he he brags about vaccines. But I don't think there is anything the true believer Democrats won't praise.
She's sure raking in the cash.
Bingo.
Almost like this was set up in advance.
When does Hillary strike?
Just like Comrade Bernie Sanders raked in the cash in 2020 when he got anywhere from $10 - 60 million.
Strange how didn't redistribute his own money to the US government.
I guess he wants OTHER people to redistribute THEIR wealth, not his.
2020 Democrat Party primary results (popular vote):
Joseph Biden, 51.7%
Bernard Sanders, 26.2%
Elizabeth Warren, 7.7%
Michael Bloomberg, 6.9%
Peter Buttigieg, 2.5%
Amy Klobuchar, 1.5%
Tulsi Gabbar, 0.7%
Other, 2.8%
Why aren’t those 6 ahead of Harris? They were more popular.
The deep state has decided who we get to vote for.
Because the donations are to Biden Harris and it would be criminal if the money went to anyone else... Not that it's ever stiped team d before
How can you say that Jeffy? Biden got a historic voter turnout in the lost secure election in the history of all elections, right?
Super duper fortified election you mean.
What's interesting fact in this comment is Jeffey's assertion the "rank and file" Dems are the far left who hate Biden and Manchin. It's an admission he recognizes the far left controls Dems to the point he overstates reality, and of course this is exactly the opposite of what he argues in others contexts. In reality rank and file Dems support Biden and Manchin to a far greater degree that the activist extreme which is why they win despite complete opposition from the institutions, except of course when those institutions realize no one else can win for them.
But because in this context defending Dems requires believing the rank and file are extremists he makes asserts it. Anything to protect the shield.
She's been such an amazing vice president though, so who could imagine anyone else taking over for a leader as dynamic as Joe?
How, exactly, are they defining "everyone else is screwed?"
Do they have some new thing, or is it the same old we're screwed that the government has been delivering my entire life?
We're getting the government we reluctantly and strategically deserve.
"We’re getting the government we reluctantly and strategically deserve."
This.
No, we're getting the government the DC elitist vermin believe we strategically deserve.
I think it's a reference to how Ms. Harris advanced politically. Don't think it would work on a national level, though.
"Harris is in"
For now. As part of the master plan, the DNC placated the inner circles, and re-opened the donation taps. And of course, the media got another speedball.
But I bet the super-special (D)emocracy is far from over.
So, serious question... how'd that "enfeebled president is better" thing work out?
Facts changed!
I love how everybody is now trying to memory hole their defending Biden for fucking years when his dementia was noted by the Right for YEARS beforehand.
If Kamala could not tell he had an issue in early July, she is too stupid to be given any power.
They're also pretending they enthusiastically support Harris, since she gets the bag of loot from Biden.
"Does Mozilla Dumping Its CEO Over Prop. 8/Anti-Gay-Marriage Stance = McCarthyism?" by Nick Gillespie
What the? [clicks link]
LOL
Yes, 2014 Fist, there is a Gay Agenda. 🙂
Cancel culture, according to Reason, is both a right wing conspiracy theory and a tool used solely by the right against the left.
Is it really libertarian to pitch snake oil? I mean, yes people should be able to buy whatever drug they want, but falsely claiming a product will do something which it clearly doesn't is wrong.
Also known as "fraud." Some libertarians think government should police force and fraud. Others think those who commit fraud could be exposed by dissatisfied customers, or suffer enough from reputational damage, or could be sued in common law courts.
Not Fraud:
"Many satisfied customers report this miracle snake oil makes them feel younger, healthier, stronger and better looking"
Fraud:
"This formula contains no less than 5% oil of snake"
(There's no snake fat in the bottle)
Qualia Senolytic
Oh no. You wacky motherfuckers are starting to peddle this horse shit too? Can't you get sponsored by something normal like... Budweiser or something? I hear they are big into internet wackjobs. Selling this baloney supplement shit just makes you look like Infowars.
Infowars without any personality.
I thought a baloney supplement would be cheese, or mustard.
New Dem strategy to counter the fake charges from the Republicans that Harris failed as border czar: deny she was ever named "border czar...."
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/07/the-myth-of-kamala-harris-as-border-czar-republican-2024-election-trump/
As vice president, Harris was tasked with addressing the “root causes” of migration. That did not mean she was in charge of “the border” or its “czar.”
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kamala-harris-immigration-biden-administration-border/
Harris was not asked to be the administration's "border czar" or to oversee immigration policy and enforcement at the U.S.-Mexico border. That has mainly been the responsibility of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas and his department...
Of course, they should try to do a better job of memory holing stories like this one:
https://apnews.com/general-news-3400f56255e000547d1ca3ce1aa6b8e9
Biden taps VP Harris to lead response to border challenges
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden has tapped Vice President Kamala Harris to lead the White House effort to tackle the migration challenge at the U.S. southern border and work with Central American nations to address root causes of the problem.... “When she speaks, she speaks for me,” Biden said, noting her past work as California’s attorney general makes her specially equipped to lead the administration’s response.... But the high-profile assignment for Harris, who ran for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2020 and is expected to run for the White House again in the future, could be politically fraught. “Needless to say, the work will not be easy,” Harris said. “But it is important work.”
But that article never uses the exact phrase "border czar" so that means she's completely off the hook for the absolute disaster the border has been during Biden's term!
Biden could not win, "Heels Up Harris" will not win. Delusional lefties need to stop and THINK .
Her campaign tagline should read Knees down! Heels up!
New prediction: Harris will be compared to Joan of Arc in the next 30 days.
Why not? I can totally see it happening.
The day after she was announced as VP candidate, a gazillion stories ran in various media about how moderate she was, what a unifying force.
Joan of Arc is way less cringe inducing than "momala". Or even hearing Harris talk at all. I seriously get embarrassed for her whenever I see her trying to interact with the world. It's so uncanny valley.
Because she hears voices and is going to be set on fire some day?
Another week of Katherine being forced to answer women questions haha
Honestly, if Tulsi kicked down the door and said, "I'm here to save you morons," she'd probably win 2024.
She's at least likeable and has a reasonable temperament. She's too proggy on several issues, but has moderated on many more since the DNC shafted her
Really? Is Kamala Harris the best that the anti-democracy party can come up with? I have zero sympathies for Joe Biden, Kamala Harris or the DNC as this is their doing. I do have profound sympathies for the voters and citizens however and am even more worried about the authoritarian tendencies of the Democrat Party. While I don't like Trump and view the Republican party as being incompetent, it is apparent that the Democrat party is simply evil, and disgustingly slimy.
I wonder how they became that why.
The financial support of slimy New York real estate tycoons who were under investigation by her main squeeze at the time.
...and if you liked Biden, then you'll absolutely will love Harris.
"Most consequential president"? Borrowing $6 trillion is pretty consequential. That's probably not what the NPR commentators had in mind.
Biden was pretty consequential in his flagrant disregard of the law when bribing voters. That sets a terrible precedent for future presidents.
I'm a simple person...Biden : I am definitely in and running for 2nd Term...Biden, few weeks late : Hi, I am definitely not in, not running.
Why don't people just loathe that stupid hateful anti-Americans LYING.