Joe Biden Wants 4 More Years 'To Finish the Job.' What Job?

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Joe Biden Wants 4 More Years 'To Finish the Job.' What Job?

In this week's The Reason Roundtable, editors Matt Welch, Katherine Mangu-Ward, Nick Gillespie, and Peter Suderman puzzle over President Joe Biden's announcement that he's seeking reelection in 2024 and plod through the Republican-controlled House's recently passed debt ceiling plan.

1:46: President Joe Biden announces he's running again.

23:47: House Republicans pass a debt ceiling plan. Now what?

36:38: Weekly Listener Question

46:40: Revisionist history with Randi Weingarten

50:49: This week's cultural recommendations

Mentioned in this podcast:

"President Joe Biden Announces He Is Running for Reelection," by Joe Lancaster

"The Very Strange New Respect for Authoritarian Democrat Robert F. Kennedy Jr.," by Matt Welch

"Choose Between a Douche and a Turd…or Die (Special Get Out the Vote Edition)," by Nick Gillespie

"Biden Has Added 220 Million Hours of Regulatory Paperwork Since His Inauguration," by Mike Riggs

"Kamala Harris Is a Flop," by Elizabeth Nolan Brown

"What We Talk About When We Talk About the Debt Ceiling," by Nick Gillespie

"3 Reasons Why the Debt-Ceiling Debate is Full of Malarkey," by Nick Gillespie and Meredith Bragg

"The Cult of the Presidency," by Gene Healy

"Don't Believe the Media Fearmongering About Spending Cuts," by Veronique de Rugy

"The House GOP Debt Ceiling Plan Would Restore Spending Caps. Good." by Eric Boehm

"Kevin McCarthy, Joe Biden, and the Deeply Unserious Debate Over the Debt Ceiling," by Eric Boehm

"Randi Weingarten's Hilariously Awful Media Rehabilitation Tour," by Matt Welch

Reason's 1976 review of Bugsy Malone, by Charles Barr

Send your questions to [e-mail]. Be sure to include your social media handle and the correct pronunciation of your name.

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Audio production by Ian Keyser; assistant production by Hunt Beaty.

Music: "Angeline," by The Brothers Steve

What are we consuming this week?

Peter Suderman

• The Covenant

Nick Gillespie

• Beef

Katherine Mangu-Ward

• Aeropagitica

Matt Welch

• Bugsy Malone

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[Longtobefree]

The job of destroying the USA, of course.
Hasn't anyone on the Reason staff read the democrat party platform?

[perlmonger]

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[Social Justice is neither]

They have and they voted for it. It's faux buter's remorse on their part to try and feign credibility.

[Nardz]

https://twitter.com/Partisan_O/status/1653156207643750401?t=91I0JtDujGZvCPWvUlIjCA&s=19

Every deadly event worth a “national conversation” will have a rotating cast of heroes, victims, and martyrs that quickly melt away under the hot sun of artificial outrage… but the villain will always be the same; the villain remains.

You might say they’re just misinformed… that their proposals are silly and impractical and would never come close to fixing the “real problem.”

But you, the villain, would be wrong. You’re the problem.

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[Zeb]

He wants to make extra sure no one will ever question his place in history as as worst president ever.

[A Cynical Asshole]

And there's still a lot left to do to nail down that crown. For instance, he hasn't managed to bumble his way into WW3 yet (though not for lack of trying).

[SRG]

Joe has earned the right to a comfortable retirement, and I hope that he is compelled to take it, and leave the 2024 presidential election to someone else.

[DesigNate]

Honestly, what they’re subjecting him to is just wrong, and in any other context would get the people that are supposed to care for him labeled as elder abusers.

[EISTAU Gree-Vance]

Joe, like most politicians, had earned the right to a jail cell in retirement.

[rev-arthur-l-kuckland]

Joe has earned his right to the gallows
Edit
As did all of his family, friends, and political allies.
Ps
Yes that includes the cancers that voted for him

[Mike Laursen]

The job of being one the most mediocre Presidents ever.

[JesseAz]

Youre allowed to say terrible. But you won't.

[I woke up when Hillary talked about Reconstruction]

Back up 50 years and he is already sub-sub-par
Bottom 10 of Syracuse Law class
Where was he as an undergraduate ?He graduated from Delaware 506th in a class of 688 with a "C" average
a stupid and lazy man at BEST

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

This is a collection of words and syllables that appeared in my local daily:

Mayor Bruce Harrell recently doubled down on his efforts to “reactivate” Seattle’s downtown, committing to filling storefronts and incentivizing foot traffic through a litany of public safety efforts and attempts to be “cool,” like asking the state to allow art walk attendees to carry alcoholic drinks.

This is one of a sudden STRING of articles coming out of the local Newspaper that since 2012-2013 has been downplaying the demise of Seattle, even denigrating other media outlets that were pointing it out with articles about the outlook for Seattle being "complicated". This "string" of articles are focusing on the subject of rampant drug use. Something's going on to bring these articles out-- in such a short, rapid fire fashion, because trends like these in corporate media are rarely if ever accidental.

Either way, something has The Times fired up, I just can't say what suddenly kicked it off. Maybe it's as simple as things have gotten so bad that they can no longer "newspaper over" the problems.

[Zeb]

A bit like Newsome's calling in the Guard to SF. Very quickly going from "this is fine, it's just part of the local charm" to "fuck, what do we do?".

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Yeah, no exactly... exactly. It's not just in Seattle, it's like left coast blue cities went from "nothing to see here" last Thursday, to "holy fucking shit" on Friday afternoon. If I were a conspiracy theorist...

[creech]

Tell Philly voters about it. The four front-runners for the Democrat nomination for mayor are all running "crack down on crime" campaigns.
The fifth place (in the polls) guy is an outsider and his campaign ads are reminding voters that the four front-runners are all members of the current administration that hasn't done diddly about the crime wave.

[Social Justice is neither]

They're about a year too early if you're conspiracy minded but that's what happens when you play coy with marxist revolutionaries and other criminals.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Seriously, it's like everyone everywhere looked around and said, "it's happening, it's WORSE than you say [and there's an election coming up]"

Laid-back Bellingham gets tough on drugs? It’s a sign for the rest of WA

Bellingham is hardly a get-tough kind of town.

The Lonely Planet travel guide extols the city’s “laid-back” and “libertine” vibe, and a few years ago it was picked as the “most hippie” town in the state. Even some real estate agents market it for its nothing-is-too-weird ways.

It’s also among the more left-wing towns politically, having voted 80% to 20% for the Democrat in the last presidential election.

So it was striking — and probably a leading indicator for the rest of the state — that Bellingham just made it a crime to use hard drugs in public.

The City Council was almost apologetic about it.

“In some sense, this is an intervention,” said one council member, Lisa Anderson, adding that she’s lost family members to drug addiction. “I don’t want to put people in jail. … I truly feel like we need to do something.”

The Bellingham Council voted 5-2 Monday to authorize police to arrest people who “inject, ingest [or] inhale” controlled substances such as fentanyl or meth out in public, on the streets. Using drugs openly could be charged as a misdemeanor — though they all said the goal is to use the “stick” of a possible arrest to get people to try treatment.

"We were swiveling our hips so hard, we threw our back out."

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

By the way, these are the types of articles that need to go into the archives... because you know in 50 years, if the pendulum ever swings back and someone stands up and asks, "Hey man why are we like, throwing people in jail for doing stuff to their own bodies, how did we ever get here, man?" You show them this.

[Quicktown Brix]

someone stands up and asks, “Hey man why are we like, throwing people in jail for doing stuff to their own bodies, how did we ever get here, man?” You show them this.

And then that person may snap out of the hippie persona you assigned them for your daydream debate and point out that most of these overdoses would be avoided if there was a safe legal source of opiates and that it is the drug war that created the fentanyl epidemic...man.

[DesigNate]

Maybe they should stop pretending like one party is better than the other on drugs?

[I woke up when Hillary talked about Reconstruction]

False and shown to be false in many studies.

TYPICAL
"The current crack problem is far worse than the heroin problem. Those addicted to crack and its effects virtually exclude almost all other considerations such as job, sleep, food, family and children. Crack abuse is not a victimless crime; users regularly victimize their children by neglect and their employers and coworkers by lethargy and carelessness. The percentage of occasional cocaine users who become binge users does not indicate the percentage who will become dependent if the drug is legal, but this percentage is most likely to increase. Illegal drugs increase crime, partly because some users turn to crime to pay for their habits and partly because some users are stimulated by certain drugs to act more violently. "

I picture you as chubby teen with an even fatter girffriend working on Mommy's computer while she is at work

[Fats of Fury]

Would any art walk attendees be stupid enough to carry alcoholic drinks on the streets of Seattle?

[Homer Thompson]

we don't have nearly enough inflation, crime and maniacal wokeness

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[wingnutx]

How many Reason staffers will vote for him again?

[perlmonger]

All of them, of course.

[JesseAz]

It will be done strategically and "reluctantly."

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Depends on who the GOP frontrunner is.

If it's Donald Trump, then it'll be reluctantly.

If it's Ron DeSantis, it will be enthusiastically.

[Nardz]

I think you'll find that Trump is still Goldstein #1.
And DeSantis just signed an awful hate speech bill, publicly in Israel to apply to Floridians,, so who knows how "distasteful" he'll really be once past the need to build up street cred down here.

[Dillinger]

How many Reason staffers will there be?

[Longtobefree]

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[Mother's Lament]

America's corpse is still kicking. His job's not done.

[A Cynical Asshole]

For some reason I thought of this.

[Mother's Lament]

Kill 'im again.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Finish the job: Words said by every hit man everywhere at some point in their career where they failed.

[Dillinger]

>>What job?

He saved all you pussies from the mean tweets. Glory be.

[Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2]

Context:

Fatass Donnie’s True Legacy:

Worst four year GDP of any POTUS since Hoover at 1.6%.
Worst jobs record since Hoover.
Green-lit Iran’s nuclear weapons program
Increased deficit from half a trillion to $2.9 trillion
Increased spending more on a per cent basis than any President post ww2.
Failed on his signature campaign promise – a border wall
Inflamed tension with NATO allies
Hopped in bed with Putin, Little Kim and other dictators
Empowered Christian Fascists, Proud Boys, Neo-Nazis and other crazies.
Folded to labor on his anti-free trade Mexico-Canada pact
bungled pandemic response driving up stimulus costs
crushed the Republican Party – losing Congress and White House.

So, has Old Joe reversed Trump's failures?

TBD. Spotty record so far - mostly unsuccessful.

[Mother's Lament]

These things are self-evidently untrue:

Green-lit Iran’s nuclear weapons program (lol, they were documented cheating even when Barry's pallets of cash arrived)
Failed on his signature campaign promise – a border wall
Hopped in bed with Putin, Little Kim and other dictators
Empowered Christian Fascists, Proud Boys, Neo-Nazis and other crazies. (The only people pushing actual Nazi policy here are you, Misek and Jeff)
Folded to labor on his anti-free trade Mexico-Canada pact
crushed the Republican Party – losing Congress and White House.

This was all Pelosi and Schumer and occurred solely during 2020 because of the pandemic (you're not actually tricking anyone, why do you still try?):

Worst four year GDP of any POTUS since Hoover at 1.6%.
Increased deficit from half a trillion to $2.9 trillion
Increased spending more on a per cent basis than any President post ww2.
Worst jobs record since Hoover.

This was a good great thing:

Inflamed tension with NATO allies

This is the only accurate accusation:

bungled pandemic response

You're far too stupid to shill here, Shrike. Soros should ask for his fifty-cents back.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Again, for people who claim to be in the group that wouldn't have turned in Anne Frank, I'm still not sure exactly what Trump's pandemic response should have been.

[Nardz]

NATO allies are enemies of the American people

[Earnesto Concernada]

When Joe Posen began his presidency, our country was in the midst of a deadly pandemic, an economic depression, and a failed war. Now, the pandemic is behind us, unemployment is at historic lows, and the war is over.

Joe Biden’s last term will finish the job:
1. Universal main-in voting
2. Single payer healthcare
3. Repeal the Second Amendment

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

I don't know who this Joe Posen guy is, but if he's offering universal main-in voting, I'll support his candidacy.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Well ordinarily I would, cloaked in anonymity, mercilessly shred your half assed arguments and pummel you with personal insults that challenge not only your intelligence but also your family heritage and hygiene habits. But I feel like your intentions, while misguided, are pure. So carry on.

[Nardz]

It's a bit dry, which can make the joke really hard to tell these days, but I enjoy Ernesto's deadpan delivery.
Not as much personality as OBL, but usually far more cutting.

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[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Alienating the Audience. Alienating the Audience

Hire him as editor in chief.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

"Joe Biden Wants 4 More Years 'To Finish the Job.' What Job?"

Destroy remaining liberties, take over the economy, institute an eternal left-elite aristocracy, and disenfranchise all the deplorables. That will probably take at least 4 years.

[Nardz]

I mean... the argument that the deplorables are effectively disenfranchised on a national level is pretty easy to make.

[Nardz]

https://twitter.com/Maarblek/status/1653150082282258433?t=nzJZmCTwvn4RbJLpHL5P9Q&s=19

these people dream of nothing but miles and miles of tenement slums as far as the eye can see

[Link]

[Nardz]

https://twitter.com/PaulHook_em/status/1653088746424746002?t=LszhoGzadvPWMmhH8gAeow&s=19

Teacher at W.H. Madison High School in Dallas Texas pretending to assassinate President Trump in front of her students.

Get your kids out of public schools.

[Video]

[Nardz]

https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1653149757659914240?t=9wabbCinrdmeqX85OmQvkA&s=19

Want to see just one tiny example of how severely we’re being gaslit?

Cultural Marxism in 2014 vs now:

[Pic]

[Liberty Lover]

What Job?
destroying the republic
destroying democracy
destroying the economy
destroying the dollar
destroying the Constitution
destroying the Bill of Rights
destroying the border
destroying the culture
destroying the children
destroying education
destroying the supply chain
destroying the food supply
destroying the working class
destroying any political opposition

[jrayv]

Yeah, 4 more years to finish putting the Kabash on this country... Let's go Brandon Joetato 2024!

[Nardz]

More just a necessary step to destroy the working/middle class and institute totalitarian government worldwide.
Gotta take out Putin too for that final solution.