Will SCOTUS Resolve the Circuit Split on a Law That Disarms People With Nonviolent Criminal Records?
Steven Duarte is one of several petitioners who are asking the justices to address the constitutionality of that absurdly broad gun ban.
On a Friday night in March 2020, Steven Duarte was riding in the back seat of a car that ran a stop sign in Inglewood, California. After two police officers responded by activating their patrol lights, Duarte opened a window and tossed out a pistol. As a result of that traffic stop, Duarte was sentenced to more than four years in federal prison for violating 18 USC 922(g)(1), which prohibits gun possession by anyone who has been convicted of a crime punishable by more than a year of incarceration.
Although Duarte's criminal record included four state offenses that fell into that category, all of them were nonviolent. Last year, a divided three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit overturned Duarte's federal conviction, ruling that Section 922(g)(1) was unconstitutional as applied to him. But last May, an 11-judge panel of the same court reversed that decision, concluding that Duarte's prosecution was consistent with the Second Amendment. Duarte is now asking the U.S. Supreme Court to take up his case and resolve a circuit split on the question of whether Section 922(g)(1) is unconstitutional as applied to people with no history of violence.
As I explain in my new book, Beyond Control, that provision disarms millions of Americans who pose no plausible threat to public safety. Duarte's Supreme Court petition is one of several involving the same absurdly broad law.
The petitioner in one of those cases, Melynda Vincent, is a Utah social worker who permanently lost her Second Amendment rights because she was convicted of passing a bad check in 2008. Another petitioner, Selim Zherka, was convicted of bank fraud and filing a false income tax return in 2015.
Duarte's record likewise does not suggest that he is prone to violence. In 2013, he was convicted of vandalism, a "wobbler" offense that can be charged as a misdemeanor or a felony under California law. That set him up for his next conviction, in 2016, for violating a California law that bans gun possession by anyone with a felony record. That same year, he was convicted of drug possession. His record also includes two convictions, in 2016 and 2019, for evading a police officer.
As those cases illustrate, Section 922(g)(1) covers a wide range of nonviolent offenses. It does not matter how long ago they were committed or what sentence was actually imposed. Vincent, for example, was sentenced to probation. But because her offense, bank fraud, theoretically could have resulted in a prison sentence, it was enough to trigger Section 922(g)(1).
Although this provision is commonly called a "felon-in-possession" law, it does not actually require a felony conviction. Bryan Range, for instance, lost his gun rights because he was convicted of food stamp fraud. Although that was a misdemeanor under Pennsylvania law, it was notionally punishable by up to five years in prison. So even though Range's sentence was limited to probation and restitution, he lost his right to arms—an outcome that the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 3rd Circuit deemed unconstitutional in the 2023 case Range v. Attorney General.
As Vincent's lawyers point out, Section 922(g)(1) also can be triggered by state offenses such as adultery, defacing a school building, "repeatedly sharing streaming websites' passwords," "temporarily using someone else's car without their consent," and "using a telephone to make a single anonymous call to annoy or embarrass." They add that federal law "includes many felonies that involve no danger," such as "knowingly and unlawfully 'export[ing] any fish or wildlife'" or making "an unauthorized recording of a movie" in a theater.
This law is "wildly overinclusive," UCLA law professor Adam Winkler notes, since "many felonies are not violent in the least, raising no particular suspicion that the convict is a threat to public safety." This issue has united the National Rifle Association (NRA), which joined a brief supporting Duarte's petition, with the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), which supported his 9th Circuit appeal.
Section 922(g)(1) is "an extraordinarily broad statute that does not target dangerousness or propensity to commit violence," the ACLU noted. It added that the government had failed to show that the provision's "categorical application to people convicted of nonviolent offenses" is "consistent with our history and tradition," as required by the Supreme Court's 2022 ruling in New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen.
In United States v. Duarte, however, the 9th Circuit did not see any constitutional problem with the sweeping scope of this categorical prohibition. The majority attached a lot of weight to a passing comment in District of Columbia v. Heller, the 2008 decision in which the Supreme Court first explicitly recognized that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right to arms.
"Nothing in our opinion," Justice Antonin Scalia wrote for the majority, "should be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms." A footnote described those regulations as "presumptively lawful." The Court's 2024 decision in United States v. Rahimi, which involved the federal ban on gun possession by people subject to domestic violence restraining orders, reiterated that description.
As Duarte's lawyers note, there are several problems with relying on these comments to uphold his conviction. First, neither case directly addressed Section 922(g)(1). Second, describing certain restrictions as "presumptively lawful" suggests that presumption might be overcome in some circumstances. Third, the Court in Heller explicitly did not delve into the reasoning for that label, saying "there will be time enough to expound upon the historical justifications for the exceptions we have mentioned if and when those exceptions come before us."
The Court clarified the test for assessing the constitutionality of gun control laws in Bruen. "When the Second Amendment's plain text covers an individual's conduct, the Constitution presumptively protects that conduct," Justice Clarence Thomas wrote in the majority opinion. "To justify its regulation, the government may not simply posit that the regulation promotes an important interest. Rather, the government must demonstrate that the regulation is consistent with this Nation's historical tradition of firearm regulation. Only if a firearm regulation is consistent with this Nation's historical tradition may a court conclude that the individual's conduct falls outside the Second Amendment's 'unqualified command.'"
Under Bruen, the NRA, the Firearms Policy Coalition (FPC), and the Second Amendment Foundation (SAF) argue in their brief supporting Duarte's petition, "all firearm regulations must be justified by historical tradition, including the regulations that Heller labeled 'presumptively lawful.'" That point is illustrated by the Court's take on the New York law at issue in Bruen, which required residents to show "proper cause" for carrying guns in public.
That law, New York claimed, fit the tradition of banning guns in "sensitive places"—one category of regulations that the Court had called "presumptively lawful" in Heller. "Expanding the category of 'sensitive places' simply to all places of public congregation
that are not isolated from law enforcement defines the category of 'sensitive places' far too broadly," Thomas wrote. "Respondents' argument would in effect exempt cities from the Second Amendment and would eviscerate the general right to publicly carry arms for self-defense…Put simply, there is no historical basis for New York to effectively declare the island of Manhattan a 'sensitive place' simply because it is crowded and protected generally by the New York City Police Department."
That analysis, Duarte's lawyers say, suggests "the far more sensible understanding of Heller's dicta is that the Court was simply recognizing the practical reality that certain
measures are more likely to be consistent with historical tradition, not that there is no need to assess whether they actually are. It blinks reality to suggest, as the decision below holds, that Heller meant to immunize a host of 'regulatory measures,' including §922(g)(1), in passing and without any analysis….That much should be obvious given the Court's 'presumptively lawful' description itself, which 'implies that felon-in-possession laws [could] be unlawful in at least some instances.'"
Although the 9th Circuit emphasized "Heller's dicta," it also purported to apply the Bruen test. But the "historical analogues" it identified do not seem "relevantly similar" to Section 922(g)(1), which requires that they resemble that law in motivation and scope.
The appeals court inferred that "legislatures may disarm those who have committed the most serious crimes" (i.e., felonies) because "the greater punishment of death and
estate forfeiture was permissible to punish felons" during the colonial period and in the early years of the Republic. Duarte's lawyers note that "the severe punishments of 'death and estate forfeiture'" had begun to fade away "even before the Founding" and had disappeared "by the time of the Constitution's ratification."
In any case, as Justice Amy Coney Barrett noted in a 2019 dissent as an appeals court judge, "the obvious point that the dead enjoy no rights does not tell us what the founding-era generation would have understood about the rights of felons who lived, discharged their sentences, and returned to society." It surely would be odd to argue, based on that "obvious point," that people with felony records should automatically lose, say, the right to freedom of speech or the right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures.
Duarte's lawyers also note that "what constitutes a felony today has ballooned" and "is thus nothing like it was at the Founding." The principle that people can be disarmed when they "have committed the most serious crimes" empowers the government to strip individuals of their constitutional rights based on how legislators decide to classify an offense.
The evolution of Section 922(g)(1) illustrates that point. The original version of the ban, enacted in 1938, applied only to violent crimes such as rape, murder, and kidnapping. In 1961, Congress expanded the ban to include any crime "punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year." It thus made Second Amendment rights contingent on the maximum penalties authorized by Congress or state legislatures, without regard to the nature of the offense.
The 9th Circuit also perceived a tradition of disarming "categories of persons" that legislators believe "present a special danger of misuse." To support that proposition, Duarte's lawyers note, the appeals court "cited laws disarming Catholics, Native Americans, slaves, and free Blacks, in addition to laws disarming minors, those of 'unsound mind,' drunkards, and 'tramps.'"
The first set of laws, the 9th Circuit conceded, "reflect[s] overgeneralized and abhorrent prejudices that would not survive legal challenges today." As for the second set of laws, Duarte's petition notes, "none dates back to the Founding." In any case, "all of the
historical laws were temporary restrictions." By contrast, Section 922(g)(1) permanently disarms anyone with a disqualifying criminal record.
"The consequences of the Ninth Circuit's decision to invoke those laws to bless any and all applications of §922(g)(1)'s are perverse," Duarte's lawyers say. "As the majority admitted, its decision means that legislatures are 'permitted to categorically disarm' any disfavored group 'they deem dangerous' with impunity." That position contradicts Bruen's rejection of "judicial deference to legislative interest balancing" in the context of laws that implicate the Second Amendment.
The FPC, the SAF, and the NRA, which also filed briefs supporting Vincent and Zherka, argue that "there is no tradition of disarming peaceable citizens." Historically, they say, "nonviolent criminals—including nonviolent felons—who did not demonstrate a propensity for violence retained the ability to exercise their right to keep and bear arms." In fact, "some laws expressly allowed or even required them to keep and bear arms" for militia service.
Since Bruen, 11 federal appeals courts have addressed the constitutionality of Section 922(g)(1). Seven have ruled that the provision is constitutional in all of its applications. Three, including the 5th and 7th circuits as well as the 3rd, have held that the ban may be unconstitutional in particular cases. The 6th Circuit has agreed with that general position while holding that people who challenge their disqualification under Section 922(g)(1) have the burden of showing they are "not dangerous."
Given that circuit split and all the pending petitions dealing with this issue, the Supreme Court may add another Second Amendment case to its docket this term, in addition to the cases involving the definition of "sensitive places" and the federal ban on gun possession by illegal drug users. If it does, it will have an opportunity to clarify exactly what it meant when it said banning "the possession of firearms by felons" is "presumptively lawful."
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Will SCOTUS Resolve the Circuit Split on a Law That Disarms People With Nonviolent Criminal Records?
Just have a federal judge declare that everyone in the world, American or not, has an RTKBA.
That's how this whole thing works now, right? "Universal human rights", even positive ones, are declared without regard for precedence or law or jurisdiction like a giant political game of Bingo.
Seems weird that all these years we've had all these issues just floating around between courtrooms and districts when, all along, some unrelated judge could just will impractical and even unreal outcomes into law. Probably because Republicans are always too busy pouncing.
Like that comic book Judge Pedd?
Enough with the infringements on the margins. Millions of gun owners are under threat of felony prosecution over 11 rounds in a magazine and possession of a rifle whose operating system has been in common use since 1908. SCOTUS must prioritize overturning regulations of the "evil guns", and allow citizens their martial small arms useful for defending the security of a free state.
Duarte's record likewise does not suggest that he is prone to violence.
No, just prone to crime. The fact that it's "non-violent" is irrelevant.
If you can't be trusted to be a functioning member of a civil society, then don't expect the rights that we give to functioning members of a civil society.
Yes, we KNOW already, AT the AuthorShitarian TotalShitarian... Non-violent crime MUST be PUNISHED, and ideally, the punishment videos should be sent to AT the AuthorShitarian TotalShitarian, for AT to whack-and-smack shit's clitoris to!!!
THIS is why we MUST burn the the illegal sub-humans, trannies, accused “groomers”, abortionists, druggies, gays, heathens, infidels, unbelievers, vaxxers, mask-wearers, atheists, dirty hippies, commies, Jews, witches, or, the very WORST of them all, being one of those accused of STEALING THE ERECTIONS OF OUR DEAR LEADER, right, right-wing wrong-nuts? ANY methods are OK, so long as they are used against the CORRECT enemas, am I right, or am I right-wing?
AT the AuthorShitarian TotalShitarian, I hope that Ye do SNOT PervFectly have much contact with children, or even pets, for that matter... And Government Almighty forbid, PLEASE do SNOT attempt to personally raise children, until (I am dreaming, butt there is always hope) such time that PervFected You PROFOUNDLY REFORM, and give UP you Eternal Dreams of ORGIES of PUNISHMENT!
Punish-punish-punish! Personally, I think that punishment should be strictly reserved for only those who cannot otherwise be corrected, and then, “the punishment should fit the crime”. What is needed, and then no more, as far as the severity of the punishment goes. Even criticism is punishment, and it, too, should be carefully rationed.
What have very varied thinkers through the years said about this?
"Beware of all those in whom the urge to punish is strong." - Friedrich Nietzsche
“Mistrust all those in whom the desire to punish is imperative.” Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
"Let he who is without sin, throw the first stone." - Jesus
“How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ while there is still a beam in your own eye? You hypocrite! First take the beam out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.” - Jesus
AT lusts after punishing (and KILLING?) Jesus, Gandhi, and MLK Jr, because AT can CLEARLY see that these 3 were SOOOOO WRONG for SNOT buying (for resisting) "my Tribe's violence GOOD; your tribe's violence BAD!"
THIS is why we MUST burn the the illegal sub-humans, trannies, accused “groomers”, abortionists, druggies, gays, heathens, infidels, unbelievers, vaxxers, mask-wearers, atheists, dirty hippies, commies, Jews, witches, or, the very WORST of them all, being one of those accused of STEALING THE ERECTIONS OF OUR DEAR LEADER
Weird that you'd call them sub-human, given that I didn't mention a single one of them.
Seriously, why would you dehumanize any one of those groups?
I'm aping Your PervFectly EVIL Power-Mad so-called "Mind", and You KNOW that, You EVIL PerFucketed One!!!
Again I say, PLEASE do SNOT have children, or try to raise any! Unless You PROFOUNDLY change Your PervFected, Mind-Infected, Punishment-Lusting Ways!!!
Do You PervFectly know what Jesus had so say about people like YOU, with respect to children? Matthew 18:6 “If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.”
Now I bet You will be PervFectly EVIL like Mammary-Fuhrer and say that this shit is ALL about Theological Purity, having NOTHING to do with abusing children and causing them to grow up all fucked up! Asshole! I hope that Ye are SNOT ass udderly beyond repair ass I think that Ye probably are! The Jesus quote is unlikely to be about nit-picking theology… How many angels can dance on the head of Your non-existent penis, etc. … And FAR more likely to be related to Jesus = Love, and severely abused children (of ANY race or faith) have a MUCH harder time believing in Love (Jesus), when they know, and have been shown, NO Love… Only PUNISHMENT for SNOT being PervFected like AT the AuthorShitarian TotalShitarian!!!
WAKE THE FUCK UP, Asshole!!!! I know of NO polite way to say what YOU need to hear!!!
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That's just one of many things you do not know.
I readily confess that I don't know many things, especially snot how to cure those who are PROUD of their mental, ethical, moral, and spiritual diseases!
You can just call them Progressives/Democrats/Reason Staff/Leftists.
...don't expect the rights that we give...
Libertarians and non-Trumpian conservatives consider rights to be things that exist, and that it's the job of government to protect them. That's why the Constitution does not say "the government grants the right to keep and bear arms to people we like". No, it says "the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." It acknowledges the right and then says the government can't infringe upon it. Same with speech and other negative rights. People in tune with the founding fathers understand this.
Know who considers governments of men to be their god and the source of all rights?
Communists, Progressives, and the rest of their leftist ilk.
One more thing you guys have in common.
...don't expect the rights that we give...
Yea, you're right. I should have said guarantee.
Libertarians and non-Trumpian conservatives consider rights to be things that exist
How? Why?
How? Why?
There was this thing called The Enlightenment a couple centuries ago. Perhaps you should look it up. You might learn something. Haa ha ha ha! I'm kidding. Reading about it would only make you angry because promotes liberty, individual rights, and freedom. All anathemas to Trumpism and leftism.
It's really ironic that Trump and his defenders use the word "leftist" to describe his critics, when he has more in common with the leftism than with libertarianism or conservatism.
You didn't answer the question.
Libertarians and non-Trumpian conservatives consider rights to be things that exist
How? Why?
"Rights" are acknowledged by those who LOVE their fellow conscious beings! Those who know and follow LOVE understand this, and so they do the same thing with the "Golden Rule"... Don't shit on others if Ye do SNOT like to be shat upon!
Since YOU apparently have PervFectly decided SNOT to even TRY to understand LOVE, answering Your PervFected Questions (to YOUR PervFected satisfaction) are like trying to explain calculus to a brick wall!
"Rights" are acknowledged by those who LOVE their fellow conscious beings!
What's love? What's a "conscious being?" Is it impossible to love someone who's been sedated? If someone's not loved, does that mean they don't have rights?
Also, an acknowledgement? So, like someone has to acknowledge your rights before you can have them?
Your understanding of this subject seems very subjective.
and so they do the same thing with the "Golden Rule"
I always love when satanists try to pervert the entirety of the Bible as if it can all be summed up as, "Just kinda try to be sorta nice to each other."
Well, I don't love it actually. I hate it, and suspect you'll be going to Hell for it.
What's love? What's a "conscious being?"
You will know Love when You STOP being a Servant, Serpent, and Slurp-Pants of the Evil One (which will then enable You to STOP being an asshole)! Study up HERE, among many other places! If you ever come around to wanting to work on your affliction, EvilBahnFarter-Fuhrer, start here: M. Scott Peck, The People of the Lie, the Hope for Healing Human Evil
https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0684848597/reasonmagazinea-20/
People who are evil attack others instead of facing their own failures. Peck demonstrates the havoc these “people of the lie” work in the lives of those around them.
Only a nit-picking lawyer-like EVIL person, desperately trying to find excuses, would ask what a "conscious being" is!
Twat is "an Asshole"?
Only a nit-picking lawyer-like EVIL person, desperately trying to find excuses, would ask what a "conscious being" is!
And a coward with no argument would fail to provide an answer.
A conscious being shows pain and suffering when you (or the environment in general) inflicts harm or threats upon it. It runs in shades and degrees. And even an amoeba (or other protist) will flee from being poked, prodded, or subjected to heat, nasty chemicals, etc. It "flees" from hunger by seeking food. And Your dog yelps when You PervFectly kick it in Your Pervfected displaced aggressions, or when You kick it because You ENJOY inflicting pain! This (often "theologically derived") idea that only humans are conscious, and that only humans matter, is SOOOO much EVIL shit! Perverts (evil people) often start by abusing animals, and end up abusing humans. Quite often, these people end up being evil because they, in turn, as children, suffered from unjust punishments from EVIL parents or other elders. Sound familiar?
There, Ya happy now? Shit's not rocket science! Shit DOES require understanding and COMPASSION to truly understand, in at least SOME tiny depth!
Cool. So, coma patients - you can literally put a cigarette out on their arm and they won't even twitch. Anyone undergoing surgery, we're literally cutting on them. They are out like a light.
They don't have rights, right? Or do rights only exist when you say they do? What are rights, anyway? You don't seem to know.
Sometimes our light dims, ass we go to sleep, and sometimes it goes out, ass we slip into a coma, or get surgery under anesthesia. That doesn't mean that we are dead. Even morons know that.
"Or do rights only exist when you say they do?" Pure projection by AT the AuthorShitarian TotalShitarian! "Rights" are like Love and hate... Abstract concepts; you can't weigh their mass or measure their energy. Even morons know that.
"Rights" are derived from Love. Since YOU, Evil One, do SNOT understand Love, You run around PRAISING the idea of "victimless crimes", ignoring fundamental human rights!!! Shit is YOU who is arrogant enough to say that everyone should hew to YOUR daffynitions!!!
That doesn't mean that we are dead. Even morons know that.
You didn't say "alive". You said "conscious."
"Rights" are derived from Love.
What's love derived from?
The whole violence/dangerousness argument is a policy argument, not a legal one -- or at least it should be.
The very same Congress that passed the 2nd Amendment also passed the Crimes Act of 1790, making execution the penalty for counterfeiting.
The question of whether a statute is overly brtoad is certainly a legal argument.
Whether a restriction of a right is narrowly tailored to serve a compelling govenrment interest is a traditional legal argument.
In this case it's very fairly arguable that it is not.
Fair trade: They get to have guns and are allowed to vote.
Is this meant to be a problem?
I don't much care for the individual right to lethal arms, but it's an explicit Constitutional right, and it's not ok to wholly strip huge swaths of people of an explicit Constitutional right. If that's allowed, others rights could be seriously curtailed on similar rationale.
Now, exactly _what_ rights the 2nd Amendment guarantees to individuals is a separate question. But "to whom" must include "the people" with at most individualized exceptions, not broad/generic ones like "unvirtuous".