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Regulation

Raw Milk Debates Are Turning Sour in Florida

Florida officials can’t agree on whether unpasteurized milk is a health threat or benefit, leaving consumers more confused than if they were left to decide for themselves.

C. Jarrett Dieterle | 8.30.2025 7:00 AM

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In the fall of 2024, I predicted that America might be on the brink of having its "raw milk moment" given now Secretary of Health and Human Services Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s political elevation. Since then, hardly a week has passed without unpasteurized milk making headlines across the country. A recent bacterial outbreak in Florida has now heightened the controversy and further solidified raw milk's central role in America's broiling culture wars.

The Florida Department of Health (DOH) issued a press release in early August detailing a campylobacter and E. coli outbreak in the Sunshine State. Officials alerted that "there have been 21 cases since January 24, 2025, including six children under the age of 10, and seven hospitalizations linked to consumption of raw milk." The DOH explicitly identified Keely Farms Dairy, a small family farm, as the source of the outbreak.

Weeks later, a Florida woman, represented by a self-described "national food poisoning law firm," filed suit against Keely Farms, alleging that its raw milk caused her two-year-old son to contract a bacterial infection and fall ill. The woman further alleges that she fell ill herself and developed sepsis, which eventually led to the loss of her pregnancy.

The details from the lawsuit are heartbreaking, but the more we learn about the situation surrounding Keely Farms, the more bizarre the story becomes. Despite DOH's definitive declaration that Keely Farms was the source of the bacterial outbreak, it was later found that the agency had reached this conclusion despite not conducting a single test at the farm, nor alerting the farm that it was under investigation. In a Facebook post, Keely Farms said that the department's press release "blindsided" them. (The DOH's press release stated that it would "continue working with Keely Farms Dairy," insinuating that the relevant parties had been working together throughout.)

Confusing things further, Keely Farms was recently inspected by the Florida Department of Agriculture. "We passed, as always," Keely Farms posted.

Selling raw milk for human consumption is illegal in Florida. As a result, milk that has not been pasteurized—the process of heating the liquid to a specific temperature for five to 30 seconds to kill harmful bacteria—can only be sold for livestock feed. Keely Farms' raw milk was appropriately labeled as "not for human consumption," meaning that the 21 Floridians who allegedly drank the farm's milk (and those who also gave it to their children) chose to do so despite this warning.

It's unclear how the current litigation involving Keely Farms will ultimately play out, although it's likely that more follow-on suits will be filed, using the DOH's press release as evidentiary fodder. 

Politico recently noted that raw milk has gone from "the darling of the organic liberals, deserving of sympathetic coverage…to the conservative culture war signal that is a sweetheart of deep-red state legislatures." This is on display in Florida. Despite the DOH targeting Keely Farms for its raw milk, Florida's Surgeon General Joseph A. Ladapo—an appointee of Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis and the head of the DOH—recently expressed support for human consumption of raw milk in a social media post. 

On the other hand, Florida's agriculture commissioner, who was endorsed by President Donald Trump, has encouraged Floridians to only drink pasteurized milk, citing the dangers of raw milk. This means that the head of the Florida agency that targeted Keely Farms' raw milk products is unexpectedly pro-raw milk, while the head of the state agency that inspected and greenlighted Keely Farms' operations is against raw milk.

This confusion highlights how raw milk has become a political flashpoint. The state health agency blamed Keely Farms while skipping basic investigative steps, the agriculture department cleared the farm, and their leaders publicly contradicted their own agencies.

When policy decisions are filtered through the lens of culture wars, the result is not clarity or safety but a muddle of mixed signals. Floridians are left unsure whether raw milk is a health risk, a personal freedom, or just another pawn in America's endless red vs. blue standoff.

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  1. SQRLSY   2 months ago

    Keely Farms' raw milk was appropriately labeled as "not for human consumption," meaning that the 21 Floridians who allegedly drank the farm's milk (and those who also gave it to their children) chose to do so despite this warning. ... Says the article.

    This should be bullet-proof insurance against Keely getting sued!!! Lawyers, go to Hell!!!

    If I bust my eardrum using a Q-Tip, that's on me, since I disobeyed the label! Labels cost money, ya know! And endless creativity in thinking of just exactly TWAT new stupid things consumers will do! Do I have to put a warning on a lawn mower, warning the mower-user to SNOT try to use it to give their kid a haircut?!?!?

    1. JasonT20   2 months ago

      Keely Farms' raw milk was appropriately labeled as "not for human consumption," meaning that the 21 Floridians who allegedly drank the farm's milk (and those who also gave it to their children) chose to do so despite this warning. ... Says the article.

      If a farm has bottles of milk labeled "not for human consumption", because regulations only allow them to be sold for use in feeding livestock, but then they sell it to people that they obviously know don't own any livestock, what then?

      1. Chumby   2 months ago

        Clearly a national registry of livestock owners is necessary. Before anyone purchases raw dairy products, they need to go through a background check overseen by the Raw Animal Product Enforcement to determine whether this can be allowed. I imagine many will get a “Do Not Proceed.” Plus there needs to be limits on high capacity raw milk containers as well as closing the 4H Club Show loophole.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          You forget CO2 emissions restrictions for those livestock, and a carbon tax on milk.

      2. Rossami   2 months ago

        How do you "obviously know [I or anyone else] don't own any livestock"? Livestock (in most jurisdictions) includes pets. How do you know I'm not buying that unpasteurized milk to give to my cats? Or using it as a base for paint? Or any of the dozens of other uses for milk? You're inventing a liability standard that's both nonsensical and unenforceable.

        Easier, simpler and far more fair is to set the standard that 'doing something in violation of the seller's safety warnings is entirely your risk to take.

        1. charliehall   2 months ago

          "Livestock (in most jurisdictions) includes pets. "

          Where?

          1. Rossami   2 months ago

            For the purposes of 'allowed to be fed things labeled not for human consumption', that would be everywhere.

        2. DesigNate   2 months ago

          “You're inventing a liability standard that's both nonsensical and unenforceable.”

          It’s kinda there whole thing.

      3. Wizard4169   2 months ago

        Last time I bought dog food the store didn't require proof I owned a dog. (I don't have a dog, by the way. The "dog food" part was in very small print, the label didn't include a picture of a dog, and in my defense the description made it sound delicious. I was inches away from opening the can when I noticed. Also, it was on the clearance aisle, not in the pet supply section.)

  2. Chumby   2 months ago

    Teetering on absurd.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

      Udderly ridiculous.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        Don't have a cow, man.

        1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

          I think it's more like bull.

          1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

            I’ve really soured on this whole thing.

            1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

              Curdles brains, it does.

              1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

                Whey to go, man!

    2. Wizzle Bizzle   2 months ago

      A woman's baby is dead and Chumby is making jokes? How dairy!

      1. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

        We lack those sentimental feelings.

      2. Chumby   2 months ago

        I rarely read the articles. I don’t know them so it isn’t a case of not crying over killed ilk.

        1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

          Or kilt ilk, if yer Scottish.

    3. Purple Martin   2 months ago

      Wouldn't that be teatering? (my apologies to a grey box if it already said that).

    4. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      This conversation is tits

  3. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

    Wait. A “food poisoning law firm” woman drank raw milk and gave it to her kid?
    And raw milk is illegal in Florida?

    1. Wizzle Bizzle   2 months ago

      Damn that DeSantis!

      1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

        IT WAS TRUMP!!

        1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

          The walls are closing in!

    2. Wizard4169   2 months ago

      I think it should be legal for adults to choose raw milk, but only because I believe in a gods-given right to be as stupid as you want to be as long as you're not hurting anyone else. But someone who knew (or certainly should have known) the risk giving something explicitly labeled "not for human consumption" to a young child? Seriously, fuck this dumb bitch. (Well, no, I wouldn't even with your dick. Violate Rule 3 at your own peril.)

  4. TJJ2000   2 months ago

    Did you ask the Gov-Gun-Gods if you could drink the milk from your cow?

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Did you ask Greta (and PETA) if you can have a cow?

      1. AT   2 months ago

        Did AOC (may she rest in peace) sign off on their farts?

  5. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    And how many people who wring their hands over raw milk don't wash their hands after pooping?

  6. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

    It is almost like milk is pasteurized for a reason. Who could have predicted that power hungry government bureaucrats would accidentally do something the helps?

    I am a raw milk fan, I just don't lie to myself about what the risks are nor would I give it to young child.

    1. TJJ2000   2 months ago

      ...And *YOU* can pasteurize or buy pasteurized like a responsible adult instead of resorting to telling the rest of the world how to live at the end of a Gov 'Gun'.

      I swear people think Law is just a suggestion far too often.

      1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

        And then get pissed off when (a) the bad people don't obey them and don't get caught, (b) the good people get caught when cops and prosecutors take them seriously.

        1. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

          The woman’s kid almost died and her fetus did. Many of these laws are to try to prevent idiot parents from killing their own kids.

          1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

            The idiot was a “food poisoning law firm”.

          2. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

            If safety were the only concern, no one would ever do anything, including procreate.

            If it saves one child but forces 300 million to suffer, is that the right balance?

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

              Hey, man, taking freedom from 300 million people is not suffering. Consider it forced enlightenment. (The religious kind, not the Lockean kind.)

          3. DesigNate   2 months ago

            You don’t care about women killing their fetuses….

    2. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      I just don't lie to myself about what the risks are, I just get used to it.

    3. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

      "I am a raw milk fan"

      That's not the only raw thing Tony's a fan of.

      1. Chumby   2 months ago

        Does he like Piña Colada?

        1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

          Getting caught in the rain?

    4. Chumby   2 months ago

      You like it directly from the bull.

      You should never be around any young child.

  7. Restoring the Dream   2 months ago

    Pasteurization was started for a very specific reason: to kill tuberculosis bacilli. It may not be completely effective for other microorganisms. Before it was all but eliminated, tuberculosis in cows was aggressively dealt with. Cows were inspected and those suspected of TB contamination were destroyed on the spot. My grandmother told me stories of the early 1900's.

    1. TJJ2000   2 months ago

      You mean people dealt with it w/o 'Guns' before pasteurization?
      How can that be? Only 'Guns' (Gov-Guns) can ensure health I'm told.

      1. JeremyR   2 months ago

        It killed 1000s of people a year before pasteurization.

        1. Chumby   2 months ago

          My recollection from the Salvato health engineering reference is that during the industrial revolution with its urbanization, distilleries used the spent mash to feed cows which produced milk for sale. This “swill milk” was made from cows not fed a natural diet coupled with CAFO-esque conditions where poor cow health resulted in poor milk quality. Other ingredients were reportedly added as bulking/masking agents.

          Think Reason did an article (book review?) about this a year or two ago.

          1. charliehall   2 months ago

            I grew up around dairy farms. Centuries after the industrial revolution happened. The cows ate grass except then it was too cold for them to go outdoors or there was snow on the ground. In those days they ate corn grown by the same farmers.

            Milk and fruit juice are impossible to store safely. Louis Pasteur made it possible to drink them safely.

            1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

              "I grew up around dairy farms."

              How much work is "around" doing here?

              1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

                He grew up in Chicago, never left the city, but Wisconsin is close enough

            2. Chumby   2 months ago

              Cows in their natural environment eat hay. When dairy cows in this area are supplemented with corn (and other fodder), they eat the entire plant known as silage.

              You are free to avoid drinking raw milk. You are feee to get another booster.

        2. TJJ2000   2 months ago

          The Gov - 'Guns' didn't save them! /s

          No matter how you want to swing it.
          The 'Guns' are not needed for ?health?.
          Wrong tool for the job.

        3. charliehall   2 months ago

          Correct. But pro lifers only care about pre born life.

          1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

            What a weird thing to say.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIkvQHk_sWM

          2. Chumby   2 months ago

            Nobody here that opposes killing the unborn has supported the tranny groomer school shooter murderers.

            1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

              chuck skews the polls that show leftists have no idea what non-leftists think.

          3. TJJ2000   2 months ago

            "But pro lifers only care about" Gov-Gun Forcing life.
            Otherwise they might have to admit nature doesn't make life pre-viable.
            FTFY.

    2. charliehall   2 months ago

      Pasteur died in 1895.

      1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

        Today is 8/31/2025.

    3. ravenshrike   2 months ago

      Pasteurization was started because without significant refrigeration, especially during transport, raw milk would be held at temperatures above 40F for days at a time before being consumed. Assuming arguendo that the tests at Keely Farms were properly performed, then I would look into the transport company they used and the sales locations as to improper handling of the product.

  8. AT   2 months ago

    As always, there is room for compromise here.

    People who want to drink normal pasteurized milk can continue to get it from the store. The stores will not stock raw milk anywhere near it, so as to avoid confusion. Those who want raw milk will be free to obtain it, but must consume it straight from the cow's udder. Udder-to-mouth is the only way to avoid any potential contaminants, other than those naturally found in the raw milk.

    There, everybody wins.

    1. Wizzle Bizzle   2 months ago

      I also favor a sort of compromise. We make raw milk widely available, totally untested. We then package it with a giant skull and crossbones on the label and make the producers immune to lawsuits, RNA vaccine style. We then allow all of the hippies, RFKers, MAHAs, bio-hackers, commune cults, and every other smelly, unwashed freak at the farmer's market to drink up. What follows can only be good for society.

      1. Eeyore   2 months ago

        What about forcing people to drink it in order to keep their jobs? I think you should have to chug a pint in order to enter a Walmart.

        1. AT   2 months ago

          At which point they'll be offered some complementary frozen shrimp.

          1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

            I am in the market for som cezium...

    2. Eeyore   2 months ago

      One cow is potentially multiuser as well. If you can avoid having the cow try and step on you.

    3. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

      Aren't you the cute little statist dictating what other people must do.

      1. AT   2 months ago

        You're only upset because everyone you know irl gets their milk straight from your mom.

    4. Chumby   2 months ago

      https://tenor.com/view/milking-the-bull-gif-6220916808569021369

  9. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

    I was under the impression that a paper mask was sufficient to ward off deadly disease. But we allow dairy cows to wander around maskless and ignoring social distancing. It wasn't long ago that these magical devices littered the parking lots of America's Walmarts and could have easily been repurposed for use by our bovine friends. But now we face yet another threat to human survival. Just a tragic waste.

    1. Chumby   2 months ago

      Not enough herd mentality?

      1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

        You got a beef with that?

  10. JasonT20   2 months ago

    Florida officials can’t agree on whether unpasteurized milk is a health threat or benefit, leaving consumers more confused than if they were left to decide for themselves.

    Genuine question here. How I am I supposed to decide for myself whether drinking raw milk is safe?

    1. Chumby   2 months ago

      You should have the Democratic Party tell you what you should and should not be doing and report anyone you observe that is not following their narrative.

    2. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      How do you make other decisions?

      1. Chumby   2 months ago

        I’d guess a healthy serving of Rachel Maddow viewing could be involved.

        1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

          Poor misguided bastard.

      2. DesigNate   2 months ago

        Jump to conclusions mat?

    3. Longtobefree   2 months ago

      Genuine answer: If you have to ask us, you are not deciding for yourself.
      Just a wild and crazy idea; search the internet, then consult the library.

      End of genuineness:
      Then flip a coin

      1. JasonT20   2 months ago

        Just a wild and crazy idea; search the internet, then consult the library.

        And where does the information I would find on the internet or in the library come from?

        How is it "deciding for myself" if I am just going to do what some website or book tells me to do?

        1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

          You could disguise yourself as a child and let Lying Jeffy tie you up in his mom's basement and then you two could debate this question for hours on end.

    4. Rick James   2 months ago

      Genuine question here. How I am I supposed to decide for myself whether drinking raw milk is safe?

      Same way you'll figure out if your off-the-shelf fentanyl is safe when all drugs are legalized and we've *checked Reason archives* abolished every federal regulatory agency.

      1. JasonT20   2 months ago

        Same way you'll figure out if your off-the-shelf fentanyl is safe when all drugs are legalized and we've *checked Reason archives* abolished every federal regulatory agency.

        Maybe the invisible hand of the free market will tell me.

    5. Incunabulum   2 months ago

      How do you decide for yourself that anything is safe?

      Do you decide anything for yourself?

      1. JasonT20   2 months ago

        I'm just going to spell it out, since you're just not willing to think about what I wrote.

        We don't decide for ourselves the overwhelming majority of the time when it comes to product safety. We often just assume that a product is safe if it is on the shelves.

        The minimal level of effort we will expend thinking about a product's safety is to give a cursory attempt to recall anything in our memory that might be relevant. Do we remember someone we know saying that they got sick after eating this? Someone saying that their child got hurt playing with that kind of toy? Do we remember some news article about those kinds of incidents? That is something we would do right then and there while at the store.

        Next, we might spend a little bit of effort thinking about and maybe even trying to find out how a product is tested. We might find that a state or federal agency has inspectors visit food packaging plants, farms, grocery stores, and so on randomly. Or, agencies might wait to collect complaints from consumers and then investigate. Sure, they are only going to visit or investigate a small fraction of businesses, but the possibility of an inspection or investigation might be enough incentive for the businesses to follow rules.

        Oh, and maybe we'll even go further and find out what some of those rules are. What are the rules on how a cow, pig, or chicken slaughtered and processed safely? What are the rules for keeping the meat safe as it is packaged and transported?

        If we do any of that, guess what we haven't done? We haven't yet done a single thing to "do our own research" that would allow us to judge whether any of those rules are necessary. Most of us don't have even a single college-level science course that would be relevant to the study of food safety. Thus, even if we did find original published research about these things, we would be unlikely to have the background to judge its validity without also reading whole textbooks worth of that background.

        That is why we have experts for food safety. Experts for product safety. We rely on experts to give us information and advice for our choices, or, we rely on experts behind the scenes to screen out the things that would be dangerous so that we don't need to spend time thinking about how to make the right choice.

        Some of those experts work for the government, and more of them work for the companies making the products we buy. They do have incentive to make safe products, but only because there are laws and government inspectors for us to go to when we think that we were harmed by an unsafe product. If there is no law that says that a grocery store has a duty to make sure it sells safe food, then we have no cause of action to sue them if we get salmonella from milk we bought there.

        If you want a live in libertarian utopia where there are no product safety laws, no public safety agencies, and no government inspectors, that will sound good to you until you realize that you couldn't possibly have the time or information available to investigate the safety of everything you buy on your own in order to "decide for yourself" whether those products are safe.

        1. TJJ2000   2 months ago

          Safety Standards does not need to 'arm' ?Expert? Kings to dictate/void free-will.
          The whole internet operates on collaborated-protocols of the people without a single 'Gun' around.

          A 'Gun' is not a tool of health.
          And a 'Gun' is the only tool that separates government for anything else.
          Worshiping the 'Guns' (Government) over others to ?better? everything under the sun is precisely the biggest death-toll in human history.

          At first glance of your original comment I assumed your were asking how one can have freedom of choice with 'Guns' in your face. Yet; You were really worshiping those 'Guns' in your face to take your choices away.

  11. JeremyR   2 months ago

    If anything, the state should prosecute the mother who drank the milk that killed her baby.

    It's one thing to harm your own health by doing stupid things like drink raw milk. But when you harm someone else, that's wrong.

    I know, I know, Reason thinks unborn babies are just parasites that somehow got in the body without the woman doing anything and so don't count.

    1. Chumby   2 months ago

      Perhaps not too dissimilar to the chickenpox lollipop thing, the deathcult could ship contaminated milk to those wanting to kill their unborn babies.

    2. charliehall   2 months ago

      She would call the idiot governor and the quack surgeon general in her defense and the jury would return a not guilty verdict in five minutes.

    3. TJJ2000   2 months ago

      "I know, I know" ... Maybe the State can sue the construction company for killing my UN-made house plan too after I cancelled the contract! /s

      Pro-Life is a wacko-delusional bunch.
      "It's UN-made but it exists! I swear! Haven't you heard of UN-made houses being demolished!" /s

  12. Rick James   2 months ago

    What crime? DC Mayor reports carjackings down by 87%

    1. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

      So, that must mean the the crime numbers are going NEGATIVE, and the thugs are giving away cars in the streets.

  13. Roberta   2 months ago

    ...

    When policy decisions are filtered

    What policy decisions? I noticed nothing here about them, just opinion quotes from officials, or opinions attributed to them. Did the legalities of raw milk sales change?

  14. KARl hungus   2 months ago

    Is there Chocolate or Strawberry raw milk?

    1. creech   2 months ago

      Surely you've seen brown and reddish coated cows?

  15. Longtobefree   2 months ago

    " . . . the agency had reached this conclusion despite not conducting a single test at the farm, nor alerting the farm that it was under investigation."

    Even Florida has democrats.

    1. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

      FYTW shall be the whole of the law.

    2. KARl hungus   2 months ago

      The Florida Department of Health is headed by the Surgeon General Joe Ladapo. That guy is definitely not a democrat.

      Florida hasn’t had a Democrat governor since 1999. Most the decision makers in the Department of Health are most likely Republican.

  16. James Basil   2 months ago

    I don't believe that these individuals got sick from drinking raw milk and you wanna know why. Cause if John Oliver CNN Msnbc are reporting against raw milk chances are its all merde. We have a right as citizens do drink raw milk or not its that simple. Regulations have not protect people more.

  17. charliehall   2 months ago

    "Floridians are left unsure whether raw milk is a health risk,"

    It is a health risk. Period.

    So is unpasteurized fruit juice.

    That is why prior to Pasteur, the only beverages safe to drink were either hot (coffee and tea) or alcoholic.

    1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

      I like how you used a period sign, ".", but then also said "Period", with a capital P, then also placed a period after "Period".

      Then threw it to fruit juice. Instead of the other juice.

  18. Chumby   2 months ago

    Four years ago today (30 August), president Joe “Child Groper” Biden (D) oversaw the abandonment of the twenty year campaign that he originally voted for when senator, helped oversee for eight years as assistant manager to president Obama, and then extended unilaterally after helping to commit the US to about a trillion dollars in spending and leaving behind billions in materiel. His efforts results in replacing the Taliban with, you guessed it, the Taliban. Many unnecessary lives were lost during that military adventuring.

    1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

      Was giving up Bagram a mistake?

      1. Chumby   2 months ago

        Secretly abandoning Bagram in the middle of the night without even telling the allies was certainly a mistake as well just leaving the prisoners there to be sprung forth by others. Two airstrips. Easier to defend. While some will say that staying in Kabul provided the optics that “normal” would remain, from the Chinese govt negotiating with the Taliban to even the WH press corps asking the tough questions regarding “what is next” where Biden (D) went all in on the puppet govt not falling was enough for a non Democratic Party shill to understand this would look like Vietnam and it did.

  19. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

    Well I learned from nigbama that whole milk is dangerous, so anyone carrying the stuff should be curb stomped and have all of his possessions taken!

    1. KARl hungus   2 months ago

      Did your cracker Jesus tell you to say that you white trash, racist waste of life?

      You are god damn fucking Roman vermin.

      Pray to your cracker god that when us real Americans take our country back from you traitors you are only deported.

      You are a deplorable, racist, fucking hick.

      1. Chumby   2 months ago

        …when us real Americans take our country back…

        An army of folks that struggle to afford a cable bill and likely receive far more in govt benefits than what they pay into the system is taking something back? That sounds as believable as a one legged man winning an ass kicking contest. Good luck with avoiding contaminated sharps and pules pf human feces in Needle Park.

        Did enjoy the “you are racist you cracker white trash” racist rant.

        1. KARl hungus   2 months ago

          Kuckland is a papist, so cracker is referring to the Roman Eucharist.

      2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

        Dude I grew up in the neighborhood Obama so gallyently community organized. Spoiler alert it's still a shit hole.

        1. KARl hungus   2 months ago

          So??? That doesn’t make you any less of a racist traitor.

    2. Chumby   2 months ago

      Obama was a horrible president because of his record. I doubt you’d dislike him less if he were a different race, but you do you.

  20. TJJ2000   2 months ago

    As long as "the people" keep making *excuses* to keep/make 'Gun' (Gov-Gun) dictates.
    They will NEVER get their Individual Liberty back.

    The only humanitarian asset of a 'Gun' is to defend Liberty and ensure Justice for all.

  21. IceTrey   2 months ago

    Adults over 19 should be able to do whatever they want except use coercion.

  22. MWAocdoc   2 months ago

    I will remind everyone every time this issue comes up that irradiated milk, eggs and produce are much safer than untreated foods and irradiation does not alter the taste or consistency of milk or eggs like pasteurization does. There are only two reasons why you can't find irradiated food in the United States: radiophobia; and overwhelmingly burdensome government regulation. Boo hoo!

    1. IceTrey   2 months ago

      They have electron beam irradiation now.

      1. MWAocdoc   2 months ago

        Viva technology!

  23. M L   2 months ago

    There is nothing wrong with raw milk. I drank it my entire childhood, multiple glasses a day. As did millions of others. And as everyone did throughout human history before pasteurization was invented recently.

    The great benefit of pasteurized milk is that it has a much longer shelf-life. Just have to be aware that your raw milk has a shorter shelf-life. (On the other hand, there are drawbacks to pasteurization as it kills all bacteria including beneficial bacteria).

    There can always be some problem with a particular batch of milk arising from the cows or milking process, but there are procedures to detect and prevent that. But that's a problem with production not the lack of pasteurization.

  24. Daddyhill   2 months ago

    My new and burgeoning 3rd party is "The Get Along Party", and my slogan is "I'll tolerate your hobbies if you tolerate mine." To be specific, I would say that folks should be free to produce, sell, buy, and drink all the raw milk they want. I want to be free to buy and use all the excellent caps, domes, double-domes, wedges, blotters, and windowpanes I could get years ago. Deal?

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