The FBI Seized Her $40,000 Without Explaining Why. She Fought Back Against That Practice—and Lost.
The twist underscores just how little accountability exists in civil forfeiture, which allows law enforcement to seize assets without charging the owner with a crime.

Linda Martin found out the hard way that the most powerful law enforcement agency in the U.S.—the FBI—can seize your assets without articulating why. Worse: Law enforcement took her savings in a raid that was itself unconstitutional. Worse still: A lawsuit she filed met its demise last week, allowing the federal government to continue the dubious practice of taking people's valuables without having to explain the reason it is justified in doing so.
The agency never did furnish a specific reason in Martin's case—because she wasn't charged with a crime. Her saga began in 2021, when the FBI sought to take more than $100 million in assets from U.S. Private Vaults, a business that offered safe-deposit boxes. That company was suspected of, and ultimately charged with, criminal wrongdoing. But the warrant expressly forbade agents from engaging in a "criminal search or seizure" of customers' boxes, like Martin's.
They did so anyway, rummaging through approximately 800 of them and seizing assets that belonged to a slew of innocent people. That included Travis May, who stored gold and $63,000 in cash; Jeni Verdon-Pearsons and Michael Storc, who kept $2,000 in cash, as well as approximately $20,000 worth of silver; Paul and Jennifer Snitko, whose box contained personal items, like marriage, birth, and baptismal certificates; and Don Mellein, who had invested in gold coins, many of which the FBI said it lost (to the tune of over $100,000).
A federal court later ruled that the bureau's actions violated the Fourth Amendment. But it was too late for Martin, who received notice that the FBI had taken $40,200, her life savings, from her box. To justify that, the notice listed hundreds of federal crimes that would lead to a seizure. As Institute for Justice (I.J.) Director of Media Relations Andrew Wimer points out, that included things like copyright infringement and doing business with North Korea. But the bureau notably did not specify how Martin was supposedly connected to any of those offenses, because it is not required to do so.
So she sued. "When the FBI attempts to forfeit someone's property, due process requires that it say why, citing specific facts and laws," reads her appellant brief. "By sending notices that initiate and, often, consummate property's forfeiture—all without ever saying what exactly the FBI thinks justifies the forfeiture, the FBI deprives owners of crucial information they need to protect their rights." After she filed the lawsuit, and about two years post-seizure, the agency returned Martin's cash. But she continued in court in hopes that the judiciary would agree that the FBI was violating people's due process rights by seizing assets with effectively no explanation.
That died last week, when the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia dismissed the suit for lack of jurisdiction.
"The FBI took Linda's savings without clearly saying what she did wrong. That shouldn't happen in America, but taking on the entrenched federal civil forfeiture system is challenging," said Bob Belden, an attorney at I.J. (which represented Martin), in a statement via email. "Unfortunately, there is not a clear path to appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court. We know that several Justices are alarmed at how civil forfeiture works in America and hope that the right case will work its way to the Court."
Robert Frommer, a senior attorney at I.J., told me in March that "without specific notice, property owners can't understand what this is all about, and therefore can't do any investigation or get meaningful advice from attorneys." That helps explain, he says, why the agency is so successful at avoiding scrutiny for its seizures. "Owners must decide whether to fight against the federal government, default, or plead for mercy, all without knowing why the FBI is doing this to them," he says. "It's therefore little surprise that 93% of federal forfeitures never get to a court, meaning the FBI gets to keep the money without ever telling anyone why they should be allowed to"—which, at least for now, will remain the status quo.
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Hopefully this bureau doesn’t doge future spending cuts.
Send this bureau to the doge house! Pronto! Without ANY kibble!
(They've been nibbling on the pubic nipple for entirely TOO long, is why they deserve NO kibble! NO kibble for the pubic-nipple nibblers!!!)
Come on - this was a misleading lead - I had to read more than half of the article before being told that she had at least gotten the money back.
So you're OK with relinquishing cuntrol of your LIFE SAVINGS for a few years, with NO explanation? What about if ye pervfectly fall into the OTHER bag, in this game of statistical-shitistical of roulette?
From above, "It's therefore little surprise that 93% of federal forfeitures never get to a court, meaning the FBI gets to keep the money without ever telling anyone why they should be allowed to"
7% has NO right to bitch on behalf of the 93%, ye pervfectly say?
Shit's ALL worth shit, if just a FEW people are SAVED from themselves and their incumpetent use of DANGEROUS medical implements of MASS death and destruction, right?
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Because the article title is (charitably) misleading. It implies that she did not get her money back. It was an injustice that it was taken for that amount of time, but it was not lost.
Her court case was lost.
Way to focus on the wrong part of the story.
The government's theft in this a few other cases makes a mockery of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments
I agree, but the larger point hits. No one should have their property seized by the government without due process, which logically includes listing charges against the person and the reason for the asset seizure.
I still find it mindboggling that in a country founded on people having inalienable rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness - taken directly from John Locke’s concept of life, liberty, and property - this isn’t instantly a case where the government is told by the Judiciary to go fuck themselves.
This is exactly the point of the judiciary in the American system: to protect people from the government (in this case the Executive) infringing on their rights. What the actual fuck?
Unfortunately, as 2020 painfully and clearly demonstrated, the American people no longer hold those values in much esteem.
Don't you know that Trump repealed the Fifth Amendment, to the applause of most commenters here? And the Supreme Court won't allow judges to stop this, also to the applause of most commenters here. This is supposed to be a Libertarian site but most of the commenters support totalitarianism.
These imbeciles took over the comments during Trump's first run. I called them out back then for not being libertarian, but they had plausible deniability and "no true Scotsman" and all that. At this point though there's really no attempt to pretend, they instead spend their time bashing the Reason staff for either being fake libertarians, or being libertarians at all (depending on the issue).
That really is piss poor clickbait. Yeah, the whole process sucks, and the FBI as an institution and the individual agents ought to get long prison sentences. But that headline is pure fraudulent clickbait.
Why is there no explanation to why she did get her money back? It was not because of the court case.
It seems the FBI after review determined it seized her money incorrectly and returned it. So they at least admit to making a mistake.
Therefore the whole point of the article suggesting the FBI can just seize your property and not review and return it if it was determined to be incorrectly seized is false?
Did the other folks noted in the article also eventually have their property returned? I suspect the answer is yes.
It seems the FBI after review determined it seized her money incorrectly and returned it. So they at least admit to making a mistake.
Bullshit. The article clearly states that they only returned it after she sued, and even then it took two years. The entire point of civil asset forfeiture is to take someone's money and then switch the burden of proof, so the person they robbed has to prove that the money was not involved in a crime. I don't know where you got the idea that law enforcement voluntarily returns what they steal because they seized it incorrectly. For one thing that would involve admitting to being wrong, and that violates the first rule of being an officer.
Yes, and so, if'n ye do SNOT have the money needed to hire a lawyer... The pigs get to keep yer money!!!
From above, "It's therefore little surprise that 93% of federal forfeitures never get to a court, meaning the FBI gets to keep the money without ever telling anyone why they should be allowed to"
Trumpistian copsuckers are congenitally and genitally and generally incapable of READING AND NOTICING shit like that, though! None are so blind, ass those adamantly, stubbornly, swillfully opposed to seeing!
You realize that the FBI seized the money in 2021, right?
Who was President at that time?
Great point. Because Trumpians hate the FBI as the most corrupt organization ever when Democrats hold the White House, but as soon as Trump gets into power the FBI can do no wrong. It's all based upon who, not what.
Nice confession by projection, bubby. Some of us operate on principle. Though we are a hated minority.
After review. Not due to the court case the FBI decided to review her case. Your inference and supposition makes you an ass.
I have a bridge I know someone like you would love to buy!
Nothing wrong with civil asset forfeiture after you have been convicted of a crime and assets forfeited are part of the sentence or were material to the crime.
This isn't that.
“ Therefore the whole point of the article suggesting the FBI can just seize your property and not review and return it if it was determined to be incorrectly seized is false?”
Apparently you’re new here. Civil asset forfeiture is a theme that they discuss periodically and the story is always the same: the government takes people’s property without any charges or justification, then the people have to fight, through the legal system, to get the property (which, remember, was taken without any justification). Sometimes they win, often they don’t. The cost of litigation is frequently more than the assets the government seized, which is why the small percentage of cases that are filed (according to the article, 93% are never challenged in court) often have public interest firms like IJ representing the plaintiff.
If the government took $40,000 of your money for no reason and you knew it would cost $80,000 to get it back, what would you do? Most people can’t afford to fight the government. It costs too much.
“ Did the other folks noted in the article also eventually have their property returned? I suspect the answer is yes.”
No. This is a pretty notorious case, disgusting even by the foul standards of most civil asset forfeiture. They literally seized things that the court told them, specifically, that they couldn’t seize and have fought tooth and nail not to give it back.
Are you actually OK with that?
No I am not.
It appears some people had their property returned to them prior to the lawsuit being filed. While it seems more than coincidental that the money was returned shortly after the lawsuit was filed, it could well be the FBI in it's review process finally did get around to Martin's petition to return her property and after she proved her property was not criminally obtained, they gave it back to her. As had happened with many and is most likely still continuing.
The courts did rule the FBI was well within it's legal rights to seize the property as they did in the raid due to the circumstances of the business acting illegally.
She got her savings back...everyone else who had assets in the vault that go seized got screwed.
This opinion seems to go directly against, Campbell-Ewald Co. v. Gomez, where SCOTUS ruled that defendant cannot necessarily avoid a class action by offering full relief to the putative class representative. This opinion does not even mention that case.
She didn't represent the class.
She was part of the class in the class action suit. Why wouldn’t she be a representative of the class?
This is serious question for a lawyer. If a member of the class is paid off to moot their standing, why is that permissible?
We all know that AT will pucker up and suck law enforcement’s dick. He’s never seen a case of cops doing wrong, ever. They don’t exist, according to him.
Language.
She was part of the class in the class action suit. Why wouldn’t she be a representative of the class?
Because she no longer suffered a claim for damages.
If a member of the class is paid off to moot their standing
They're not "paid off." She was rightfully entitled to get back what they took. They rightfully gave it back to her. Problem solved. No need to bog the courts down with something that's already been 100% resolved. Her cause of action no longer has any merit, because she no longer suffers any loss/damage.
What you should be really pissed at are the ACTUAL CRIMINALS who aren't demanding their ill-gotten monies back. You know who would have standing? The money launderers. Course, to make the claim, they'd have to risk the State genuinely proving that they're money launderers. Gosh, why wouldn't they want to do that?
But you never seem to want to lay any of the blame at their feet in these CAF discussions, do you Nelson.
Why would I be pissed at criminals simply for being criminals? It's a given that criminals are criminals. It would be a much bigger problem if criminals were, somehow, not criminals. (Or perhaps there would be no problems at all?)
On the other hand, cops are not supposed to be criminals, so it is rather more newsworthy (and annoying to my sense of right and wrong) when the cops behave like he criminals.
"The twist underscores just how little accountability exists in civil forfeiture, which allows law enforcement to seize assets without charging the owner with a crime."
Demonstrating once again our government is THE biggest criminal of all.
And ICE is the biggest organized crime ring today.
Uh, retard - did you even read it?
It is undisputed that, as the district court found, the FBI discontinued the forfeiture proceedings and that the seized property was returned to Martin on July 10, 2023, shortly after the class action complaint was filed.
Meaning she no longer had any standing. She wasn't part of a "class" that alleged some kind of harm.
"You broke my window! I'm suing!"
"I already gave you money to repair the window, and the window is repaired."
"I'M STILL SUING!"
"For what?"
"Because I don't like that people can break my window! I want to make it so my window CAN'T be broken!"
"Are you retarded?"
That's essentially what this comes down to. "But she continued in court in hopes that the judiciary would agree that the FBI was violating people's due process rights by seizing assets with effectively no explanation."
Look, I'm going to tell you a little secret in the legal world, Billy. The Courts hate and resent when pissant activists - like the IJ - try to manipulate them into deciding policy. Because that's not their job.
And that's what was going on here. This IJ wanted to pretend this chick had standing so they could bring the issue of CAF itself before the Court - which is, of course, as an activist what you ALSO want. But it doesn't work that way. Nor should it.
Because CAF was no longer at issue here. They seized her property, and then they returned it. The process works. No rights were deprived that Justice failed to remedy. There was nothing for the Court to do.
And you know it. You just don't like it.
Go find your solution in the legislature, Billy. Stop trying to weaponize the Courts in order to force your agenda. That's pretty much the most anti-American thing any American could ever do.
So PISS is WHY AT the AuthorShitarian TotalShitarian is in flavor of Government Almighty taking YOUR life savings for TWO YEARS, for NO given, valid, specific reason nor treason, and REFUSING to give shit back to you... Unless ye have $$$MONEY$$$ for lawyers!!!!
Thanks PervFected YOU SOOOOO mulch, AT the AuthorShitarian TotalShitarian, for explaining shit all!!! NOW I see how and why Ye are such and suck a PervFected, Neglected, and Mind-Infected Copsucker! NO boots in the face are EVER too mulch... So long ass shit is SNOT the face of AT the AuthorShitarian TotalShitarian!!!
Oh my Lord, give this poor boy his pill already.
She got it back. What are you whining about?
From above, "It's therefore little surprise that 93% of federal forfeitures never get to a court, meaning the FBI gets to keep the money without ever telling anyone why they should be allowed to"
AT the AuthorShitarian TotalShitarian gives neither an AuthorShitarian Shit nor a TotalShitarian Shit about the 93% who don't have the time, energy, and $$$MONEY$$$ to hire scum-sucking bottom-dwelling greedy lawyers to defend their so-called (butt largely imaginary) "rights"!
How much justice did Ye say that Ye want? Well... HOW MUCH MONEY do Ye have to spare? AT the AuthorShitarian TotalShitarian is totes OK with THAT shitty arrangement and estrangement... AT the AuthorShitarian TotalShitarian can SNOT imagine that the Government Almighty jack-booted thugs and goons will EVER cum for AT the AuthorShitarian TotalShitarian, 'cause AT the AuthorShitarian TotalShitarian is TOTALLY Righteous at ALL times!!!
Maybe that they were told not to take anything, but they did. Then when the person said, “You took my stuff when you weren’t supposed to. Can I have it back now?”, the cops said, “No”. So she got a lawyer and had him say, in lawyerese, “You took something you were told not to. Give it back.”, and the cops said, “No” again. The last part gets repeated for almost two years, then finally when the cops are about to be forced to give back the stuff they stole from an innocent person, they said, “Fine! We didn’t want it anyway.”.
But that was two years after the cops illegally took things that they were *specifically told not to take* and after being forced to get a lawyer and fight (again, for two years) over something they were specifically told not to take in the first place.
If you think that’s OK, or that they make things fine by giving back the money they stole (without paying any interest for the two years they held it), you are way too comfortable with government abuses than a decent person would be.
Or you’ll just be an apologist for any abuse by law enforcement.
Or both. Probably both.
If you think that’s OK, or that they make things fine by giving back the money they stole (without paying any interest for the two years they held it), you are way too comfortable with government abuses than a decent person would be.
Sorry, where's the abuse again? Like, specifically, tell me where the breakdown in the legal process happened; where she was deprived of a right and a recourse against its infringement.
Tell me where that never actually happened, but you want to believe it did because Narrative™.
When she was deprived of her property. And when the cops did it after being specifically told not to do it.
They gave it back.
You only addressed the first half, and completely ignored the second.
AT the AuthorShitarian TotalShitarian would presumably be OK with Government Almighty Goons (of the RIGHT Party, of course!) taking AT the AuthorShitarian TotalShitarian's poop-and-shit for 30 years, and, ass AT the AuthorShitarian TotalShitarian take's shit's dying breaths... Government Almighty Goons give AT the AuthorShitarian TotalShitarian shit's shit BACK! All's swill that ends swill! Allah swilling and the shit don't rise TOOOOO horribly badly, by Allah knows by TWATEVER these standards may be, or snot be! I am, truth be told, thoroughly cuntfused by TWAT IN THE HELL the standards of AT the AuthorShitarian TotalShitarian really are!
If you think that’s OK, or that they make things fine by giving back the money they stole (without paying any interest for the two years they held it), you are way too comfortable with government abuses than a decent person would be.
Or you’ll just be an apologist for any abuse by law enforcement.
Or both. Probably both.
It's both.
The court just rules that the FBI is allowed to break windows with impunity.
That they repaired the window is irrelevant - the court didn't rule that they have to and there is still the issue of dealing with the inconvenience of a broken window in the interim which was not compensated for.
So, ultimately, that's a gripe with the Court system itself. That seeking restitution for a rights violation is, as you put it, "inconvenient," and therefore even though you've been made whole again, you're just still kinda mad about the hassle of it all.
Well, to put it as kindly as I can, get the hell over it.
The sheer whininess of your entitlement mentality of your position here is pathetic. "Hermagerd, you mean I actually might have to put *gasp* effort into actively defending my rights as an American citizen? The horror! That's not fair! I deserve everything on a silver platter!"
Sometimes a ball sails through your window. Sometimes it's done accidentally, sometimes it's done recklessly, sometimes it's done intentionally. You rightfully cry foul (no pun intended) at having your window broken, and you take legal action against the person who broke it. The Court decides you're in the right, and the defendant/respondent is ordered to make you whole again.
So he pays for your window and you get it fixed. Restitution. You've been made whole again. What more do you want? Attorney fees? Guess what, you'll probably get them! Pain and suffering? You weren't physically harmed (and good luck proving emotional harm). Loss of quiet enjoyment? Doesn't mean what you likely think it does. Punitives? Not against the State. A unilateral declaration by judicial fiat that windows shall never again be damaged? Unenforceable (and unconstitutional).
The American Civil Justice System redresses harms. The harm occurs (and it has to occur first), you have to make a claim for damages, and the Court has to find in your favor. If that happens, you will be provided restitution and be made whole.
If your claim is that you're not "made whole" - then again, this is a gripe with American jurisprudence in general. But guess what, it's the best job they can do without encroaching on the Constitution.
Again, if you don't like it - take it up with your elected representatives. Have a long talk with them about FBI procedures and accountability for them, and seek new rules or legislation that forbid them from playing ball near windows. But don't go crying when your window is broken and then fixed - at least, not to the Court. The Court's done all it can, will, and should for you already.
So a cop can throw you in jail for the night, hand you the list of laws that might justify you being jailed - if you had broken any - fail to tell you what crime you've actually committed . . . but if they let you out in the morning it's all good?
Only if you manage to lawyer up. If you don't, either because you can't afford to or you naively think the cops are the Good Guys who will do the right thing, AT will take it to mean you're guilty of everything the cops suggest to justify their actions.
Happens all the time. "Miss Incunabulum, you're under arrest for suspicion of burglary. Please put your hands behind your back as I read you your Miranda rights." *later that day, possibly the next morning* "Apologies Miss Incunabulum, as it turns out the suspect we were seeking was caught during another attempted burglary and confessed to this prior one as well. We apologize for any inconvenience. If you'd like, we can arrange for a patrolman to return you to your place of residence."
Happens all the time..
Cops arrest you based on probable cause, possibly interrogate you (but maybe not), hold you for a legally permissible amount of time (which, assuming probably cause has been established, can include overnight), and decide to cut you loose without charges because they find conflicting evidence that undermines their prior probable cause, or determine that the sufficiency of evidence isn't enough to maintain probable cause, or don't think they have enough basis for said charges. Or, maybe they do charge you. You hire a lawyer, maybe pay him some money up front, and the DA decides not to pursue a case. Defense attorney says, "Glad I could help," despite not actually getting the chance to do anything.
If you're asserting an instance where they don't have probable cause in the first place, then you've got an argument for false arrest. But if you think that sort of thing is happening with any regularity, then I'll be happy to show you an ACAB twit who watches too much television.
" if you think that sort of thing is happening with any regularity"
ICE does it every day.
Not sure you actually understand what ICE does.
Yet another piss-poor analogy from Reason's resident authoritarian copsucker. Why don't you address what actually happened instead of making up something that didn't happen? The FBI seized property in a manner that directly exceeded the limitations of their warrant, justified the seizure without actually suggesting she had done anything illegal, and only returned her property two years after she started suing.
Fortunately for her, the Institute for Justice (or 'pissant activists' to you) provided pro bono legal representation. If she had had to pay for a lawyer, should the FBI have been required to return her property and pay her legal bills if they had no rightful claim to it?
Frankly, she was fully justified in continuing the lawsuit, since the original action of taking her property was plainly illegal, and that action wasn't erased from history by virtue of the feds finally giving back the money. Those years without her money still happened, nitwit.
The FBI seized property in a manner that directly exceeded the limitations of their warrant, justified the seizure without actually suggesting she had done anything illegal, and only returned her property two years after she started suing.
There you go, you said it yourself. She got it back. Case closed.
Your problem seems to be with a lack of accountability for the FBI. OK, so how many times have you called your legislators demanding Congressional oversight or filed a complaint with the OIG? Here dipstick, I'll even send you the form.
Or do you just want to impotently rage about your precious-wecious ACAB feewings and bawl, "It's not f...fff....faaaair" until your voice goes hoarse?
If she had had to pay for a lawyer, should the FBI have been required to return her property and pay her legal bills if they had no rightful claim to it?
Yes.
Frankly, she was fully justified in continuing the lawsuit
No she wasn't. She had no standing. She got her stuff back. She's no longer an aggrieved party.
What's your argument, that would-be litigants who have had their rights deprivations remedied still have a cause of action?
Courts exist to decide ACTUAL DISPUTES, dummy. They are not there to enact or repeal policy. I know that's hard for a far-left marxist authoritarian to wrap his head around, but try. The Court is not there to entertain your general abstract grievances about the way the law works, regardless of how much you want to fawn all over Sandy and Ketanji and their attempts at judicial activism. They are there to determine whether laws have been broken or whether injury needs redressing.
In this case, the injury was already redressed. There's nothing for the Court to do for this woman.
There you go, you said it yourself. She got it back. Case closed.
Oh, is that how you think the law works? If someone robs a bank, holds the money for two years, but finally gives it back only when it looks like they might lose in court, it's the same as if the bank were never robbed in the first place?
You're conflating criminal acts with civil actions.
CAF. The hint is in the name, ding-dong.
The taking was illegal, moron, since the FBI exceeded the plainly written limitations of the warrant. Giving the money back two years later doesn't change the illegal nature of the seizure, dullard.
And if any federal agent is ever charged and convicted with a crime on the subject, I'll be happy to discuss that with you. But since we're only discussing the CAF to date, your attempts to conflate them with a crime* are both incorrect and stupid.
Look, I know you probably only read the headline to this article and let your raging ACAB idiocy do the rest of your "thinking" for you - as you're wont to do - but you don't even seem to understand exactly what happened here. Since you're incapable of doing this on your own, I'll do it for you:
the court has not been presented with a justiciable
issue whereby it can address whether the class claim plausibly
states a Due Process objection upon which relief can be
granted. The district court has not certified a class and Martin’s
individual claim is moot.
She was the only plaintiff here, but she NO LONGER had a case in controversy. Meaning she can't go demanding a civil suit on behalf of others, because there WAS no certified "others" (aka class) at that point.
You're (like Reason is) trying to take a wide-lens picture of some overall perceived injustice, but you fail to realize that THAT POINT THERE in the above paragraph is the only thing at issue as far as the Court is concerned.
They got this one right. Live with it. (And, frankly, choke on it.)
I know that probably doesn't sit well with you given your angry petulant feet stampy ACAB feewings - but your feelings do not define - and should not define - the proper administration of American jurisprudence.
* (Going back to the crime thing, guess what bro, prepare to have another a rage tantrum because - dun dun duuuun - QI. Want me to really ruin your day and tell you why they'll get it here? Oh heck, I'll give it to you free since having your day ruined seems to be something you enjoy. Ready for it? .... .... Lack of criminal... heh, it rhymes with a colloquial term for what happens when your tiny little weenie makes the front of your tightie whities pop out when you pass in front of a Victoria's Secret while you and your mom are at the mall.)
"try to manipulate them into deciding policy. Because that's not their job."
I am so tired of hearing idiots spout this bullshit. That is the entire job. They decide what policies are allowed to exist, or whether policies were followed, through their rulings.
Wrong.
They decide what is or is not valid under the Constitution. There's a reason why they won't make proclamations as to things like... when life begins, whether homosexuality is innate or behavioral, what is a "good" border jumping illegal scumbag vs a "bad" border jumping illegal scumbag.
They won't touch those kinds of things with a 10' pole. Because that's policy, and that's beyond their purview. In fact, it's the times they DID get too close to it that are the most hotly contested and controversial decisions in American jurisprudence (the penultimate one being West Coast Hotel v Parrish - which, incidentally, is the literal pinpoint where I, for one, mark the beginning of the fall of American society - but don't think that Brown, Roe, Obergefell, and Kelo aren't on that list too). The Court's job isn't "do we agree with it," it's "is it Constitutional."
This is, incidentally, what makes Thomas, Gorsuch, and ACB really great on the current bench. The others I have some issues with, but those three seem really zeroed in on Constitutionality and refuse to be led down rabbit holes about anything beyond it (while Ketanji and Sandy spend all their time intentionally digging them).
The FBI needs to be defunded utterly and completely. A completely corrupt and a dangerous threat to Americans. They are in essence a government mob/gangsters.
The FBI should have never been created in the first place. Otherwise Jayne Edger Hoover would have had to get a real job.
BY the way, Prohibition was an utter failure as well.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/operation-grayskull-culminates-lengthy-sentences-managers-dark-web-site-dedicated-sexual
So because they did their job correctly and legally at least once, they should be allowed to steal people’s property with impunity?
Agent AT has been assigned to monitor this website for badspeak.
Babies and bathwater, Nelson.
So . . . Federal courts seem to have no jurisdiction over *executive branch agencies* - but can order the President to do what they want?
I would think Kash Patel could do something about this pretty directly.
U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia dismissed the suit for lack of jurisdiction. This is a complete deflection by the judiciary. We have numerous Federal Judges who have exceeded their jurisdiction to rule against Trump's executive orders. This is more of the same, where we live under different sets of rules, where the Average Joe lives under laws and rules that the ruling elites and powerful don't need to live under.
Indeed so. A two tiered injustice system.
It's much worse in the U.K. or western Europe
It is all about Trump for you MaGAettes. Y'all have TDS.