Trump, Who Wants To 'Straighten Out the Press,' Sues The Wall Street Journal Over 'Fake' Epstein Letter
Whatever the merits of this particular defamation claim, the president has a long history of abusing the legal system to punish constitutionally protected speech.

On Friday, President Donald Trump sued The Wall Street Journal for reporting that he contributed to a 2003 collection of letters marking the 50th birthday of financier Jeffrey Epstein, who was later charged with sex trafficking involving underage girls. Although it is well established that Trump was friendly with Epstein when that leather-bound set of birthday wishes was produced, Trump insists he did not write the "bawdy" letter described by the Journal, which he calls a "scam" and a "fake story."
Trump presented his defamation lawsuit, which he filed in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida, as part of his broader campaign to rein in news outlets that he thinks have wronged him in one way or another. "I'm gonna sue The Wall Street Journal just like I sued everyone else," he told the paper when he was asked to comment on the story. "The Press has to learn to be truthful, and not rely on sources that probably don't even exist," Trump wrote on Truth Social, bragging that he had "already beaten George Stephanopoulos/ABC, 60 Minutes/CBS, and others."
The litigation to which Trump alluded covers a wide range. His defamation claim against ABC, for instance, was at least plausible, since it was based on demonstrably inaccurate reporting. But his lawsuit against CBS, which averred that the network committed consumer fraud by editing a pre-election 60 Minutes interview with former Vice President Kamala Harris in a way that made her seem slightly more cogent, was utterly frivolous. At this point, it is hard to say where Trump's complaint about the Journal's story falls on that spectrum. But in his determination to punish journalists who offend him, Trump typically has not paid much attention to the distinction between actionable torts and constitutionally protected speech.
A 'Terrific Guy'
In addition to Dow Jones, which owns the Journal, the defendants in Trump's lawsuit include News Corp, which owns Dow Jones; Rupert Murdoch, News Corp's majority owner and emeritus chairman; News Corp CEO Robert Thomson; and the two reporters who wrote the story about the Epstein letter, Khadeeja Safdar and Joseph Palazzolo. That article describes a letter "bearing Trump's name" that includes a typewritten imaginary conversation between him and Epstein. The text, Safdar and Palazzolo report, is "framed by the outline of a naked woman, which appears to be hand-drawn with a heavy marker. A pair of small arcs denotes the woman's breasts, and the future president's signature is a squiggly 'Donald' below her waist, mimicking pubic hair."
In the dialogue described by the Journal, the "Donald" character says "we have certain things in common," and the "Jeffrey" character concurs. Both men are "enigmas" who "never seem to age," they agree, and both understand there is "more to life than having everything." According to the Journal, the dialogue concludes with a message from "Donald": "A pal is a wonderful thing. Happy Birthday—and may every day be another wonderful secret."
Safdar and Palazzolo "falsely pass off as fact that President Trump, in 2003, wrote, drew, and signed this letter," Trump's lawsuit says. "The Article does not attach the purported letter, does not identify the purported drawing, nor does it show any proof that President Trump has anything to do with it. Tellingly, the Article does not explain whether Defendants have obtained a copy of the letter, have seen it, have had it described to them, or any other circumstances that would otherwise lend credibility to the Article. That is because the supposed letter is a fake and the Defendants knew it when they chose to deliberately defame President Trump."
Safdar and Palazzolo say their account is based on "documents" that they "reviewed," along with information from "people familiar with them." They imply that the documents included "pages from the leather-bound album" compiled for Epstein's birthday, although they also say "it isn't clear how the letter with Trump's signature was prepared." A Dow Jones spokeswoman said, "We have full confidence in the rigor and accuracy of our reporting."
If Trump did in fact write, or at least authorize, the birthday letter that the Journal attributed to him, the paper did nothing that would justify civil damages. But if that letter is a forgery, as Trump implies, he might have a valid defamation claim.
To support that claim, Trump has to show that the Journal acted with "actual malice," meaning it knowingly or recklessly reported something that was demonstrably false. The lawsuit complains that Murdoch and Thomson "authorized the publication of the Article after President Trump put them both on notice that the letter was fake and nonexistent." Since Trump and White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt both told the Journal the letter was "fake" prior to publication, a jury might reasonably conclude that the paper acted recklessly, assuming that Trump did not really write the letter. But Trump also has to prove that the Journal's claim was defamatory, which might be trickier.
Trump avers that the Journal's story, which "went viral" after it was published on Thursday evening, has caused him "overwhelming financial and reputational damages" that are "expected to be in the billions of dollars." But since Trump admits he was friends with Epstein in 2003 and for more than a decade prior to then, it is debatable whether the Journal's report caused any additional harm to the president's reputation, let alone damages adding up to "billions of dollars."
At the time, Epstein's celebrity friends also included former President Bill Clinton, billionaire Leslie Wexner, and Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz, who represented Epstein after his first arrest in 2006. Safdar and Palazzolo report that Wexner and Dershowitz joined Trump in contributing to the birthday album.
By itself, the claim that Trump participated in the birthday album merely confirms what the public already knew. "Is it defamatory that one millionaire sent a birthday card to another in 2003, before Epstein was discovered?" media attorney Damon Dunn wondered in an interview with Business Insider.
The imaginary conversation between Trump and Epstein is strange and ambiguous, but on its face it does not implicate Trump in anything more scandalous than his friendship with a man who would later become notorious as a sex offender. And the "bawdy" sketch seems mild compared to, say, Trump's recorded comments about grabbing women "by the pussy."
Trump's lawsuit faults the Journal for attempting to "inextricably link President Trump to Epstein," an "utterly disgraced" individual who committed suicide in federal custody six years ago. Yet Trump's own actions and statements already were enough to establish a link between the two men. Before they fell out in 2004 or so, Trump partied with Epstein in Palm Beach and Manhattan, posed for chummy photos with him, and repeatedly flew on his private jet.
"I've known Jeff for 15 years," Trump told New York magazine in 2002. Trump described Epstein as a "terrific guy" who was "a lot of fun to be with," adding: "It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it—Jeffrey enjoys his social life." Defamation lawyer Chris Mattei suggested to Business Insider that the lawsuit could backfire if it results in discovery exploring Trump's relationship with Epstein, which "would be relevant to the question of whether or not it's likely Trump had any sort of role in this letter."
Trump's lawsuit asserts that the Journal's statements about him are "defamatory per se" because they "tend to harm" his reputation or "deter third persons from associating or dealing with him." But the complaint never really explains why the purported birthday letter falls into one of the categories of statements traditionally recognized as inherently damaging, such as claims that the plaintiff committed a serious crime, engaged in sexual misconduct, or behaved in a way incompatible with his profession.
'Fake News' Is Not a Tort
The ABC case, which resulted in a $16 million settlement last December, posed a similar question about reputational damage. On two broadcasts of his show This Week, George Stephanopoulos repeatedly asserted that Trump had been found civilly liable for "rape." Unlike the Journal's report on the Epstein birthday letter, the veracity of which is a matter of dispute, Stephanopoulos' claim was clearly inaccurate, since Trump had in fact been found liable for "sexual abuse." The jury in that civil case expressly concluded that the plaintiff, journalist E. Jean Carroll, had failed to prove her "rape" claim. If Trump's case against ABC had gone to trial, the network nevertheless could have argued that the difference between those two terms was not consequential enough to justify a damage award.
Although Trump's lawsuit against CBS also resulted in a $16 million settlement, the legal merits of that case were much weaker. Trump risibly claimed that, by editing a 60 Minutes interview with Harris to make her sound "less dumb," CBS had caused him at least $20 billion in damages. His lawsuit alleged violations of two statutes, the Texas Deceptive Trade Practices Act and the federal Lanham Act (which covers someone who "misrepresents the nature, characteristics, qualities, or geographic origin of his or her or another person's goods, services, or commercial activities") that plainly did not apply to the network's conduct. Paramount, which owns CBS, nevertheless decided to settle the case, starkly illustrating the pressure that a sitting president can bring to bear by combining frivolous legislation with implicit threats of adverse government action.
In his Truth Social post last week, Trump did not explicitly mention his equally ridiculous lawsuit against The Des Moines Register, which irked him by reporting the results of a 2024 election poll that erroneously predicted a Harris victory in Iowa. As in the case against CBS, Trump claims the newspaper committed consumer fraud by publishing a misleading story but fails to establish the requisite commercial relationship between him and the defendant. Trump's arguments in that case aim to carve out a "fake news" exception to the First Amendment, which would be a grave threat to freedom of the press.
If misleading journalism counted as actionable consumer fraud, news outlets would have to constantly worry about potentially ruinous litigation whenever their work might be characterized that way, which is almost always the case. Trump, who has promised to "straighten out the press," no doubt would welcome that speech-chilling outcome. But the prospect should alarm anyone who values the rights guaranteed by the First Amendment.
In Trump's long history of suing journalists, the predominant theme is vindictive retaliation, rather than obtaining compensation for legally cognizable damages. As a wealthy man, Trump could afford to pursue cases he had no hope of winning simply to inflict pain on people who said things he did not like. Even if the cases were ultimately dismissed, his enemies would suffer in the meantime.
In 1984, for instance, Trump sued Chicago Tribune architecture critic Paul Gapp for calling a Manhattan skyscraper proposed by Trump "aesthetically lousy" and "one of the silliest things anyone could inflict on New York or any other city." The thin-skinned developer demanded $500 million in compensation for those insults.
That seemed like a lot until Trump sought 10 times as much—$5 billion—in a 2006 lawsuit against Tim O'Brien, a financial journalist who had dared suggest that Trump was not worth as much as he claimed. Although Trump lost both of those cases, he later told The Washington Post he got what he wanted from his suit against O'Brien. "I did it to make his life miserable," he said, "which I'm happy about."
'A Libel Bully'
As First Amendment attorney Susan Seager noted in 2016, "Donald J. Trump is a libel bully." But "like most bullies, he's also a loser."
Trump and his companies "have been involved in a mind-boggling 4,000 lawsuits over the last 30 years and sent countless threatening cease-and-desist letters to journalists and critics," Seager reported. "But the GOP presidential nominee and his companies have never won a single speech-related case filed in a public court."
In addition to the lawsuits against Gapp and O'Brien, Seager noted Trump's 2013 lawsuit against comedian Bill Maher. That complaint was prompted by a joke mocking Trump's promotion of the calumnious claim that Barack Obama was not qualified to be president because he was not born in the United States.
In 2012, Trump made a video in which he promised to pay $5 million to the charity of Obama's choice if the president agreed to release his "college and passport records." In response, Maher said during an appearance on The Tonight Show in early 2013 that he would pay $5 million to the charity of Trump's choice if the orange-hued reality TV star provided proof that he was not "the spawn of his mother having sex with an orangutan." Trump thereupon sent Maher a copy of his birth certificate and demanded that he pay up. Receiving no response, Trump filed a $5 million breach-of-contract suit, which he withdrew, Seager noted, after it was "roundly ridiculed by the Hollywood Reporter."
Before he dropped that lawsuit, Trump sought to justify it by complaining about how mean Maher had been to him. "That was venom," he said on Fox News. "That wasn't a joke."
Seager thought Trump's litigation history underlined the need for state laws aimed at "strategic lawsuits against public participation" (SLAPPs). Anti-SLAPP laws, which have been enacted by 38 states and the District of Columbia, allow defendants who are sued based on constitutionally protected speech to seek a prompt dismissal and recover legal expenses from the plaintiff. But as Trump sees it, his track record shows it should be easier, not harder, to sue the objects of his ire. He aspires to "open up those libel laws" so that aggrieved public figures like him can sue irksome critics and "win money instead of having no chance."
Trump imagines a legal regime in which he could, for example, win damages from CNN for calling his claim that Joe Biden stole the 2020 presidential election "the 'Big Lie,' a concept tied to Adolf Hitler." Dismissing that lawsuit in 2023, U.S. District Judge Raag Singhal, a Trump appointee, deemed the implication to which Trump objected a matter of opinion, as opposed to a statement of fact.
"Being 'Hitler-like' is not a verifiable statement of fact that would support a defamation claim," Singhal noted. "CNN's statements, while repugnant, were not, as a matter of law, defamatory."
Trump also unsuccessfully sued CNN, The New York Times, and The Washington Post for statements related to the Russian government's role in the 2016 presidential election. Judges dismissed those lawsuits after concluding that they failed to adequately state defamation claims. When he dismissed the lawsuit against the Post in 2023, for example, U.S. District Judge Rudolph Contreras noted that the Trump campaign had "failed to plead sufficient factual allegations supporting an inference of actual malice" with respect to one of the offending articles. The allegedly defamatory statement in another article cited by the campaign, Contreras added, constituted "nonactionable opinion."
'Our Press Is Very Corrupt'
Trump has been explicit about what he aims to accomplish with lawsuits like these. "We have to straighten out the press," he told reporters last December, explaining his motivation for suing CBS and the Register. "I'm doing this not because I want to," he added. "I'm doing this because I feel I have an obligation to….I shouldn't really be the one to do it. It should have been the Justice Department or somebody else. But I have to do it [because] our press is very corrupt."
As Trump sees it, the Justice Department should be policing the press to make sure it is telling the truth. Exactly how that would work is unclear: What statutes, specifically, would authorize the department to sue or prosecute news outlets for reporting that Trump views as inaccurate or unfair?
More to the point, any such action would be clearly unconstitutional. But Trump thinks he can achieve similar results by filing his own lawsuits.
After the settlement with Paramount was announced, Trump's lawyers presented it as a victory for all of us. "With this record settlement," they crowed, "President Donald J. Trump delivers another win for the American people as he, once again, holds the Fake News media accountable for their wrongdoing and deceit. CBS and Paramount Global realized the strength of this historic case and had no choice but to settle. President Trump will always ensure that no one gets away with lying to the American People as he continues on his singular mission to Make America Great Again."
You can judge for yourself whether the editing of the Harris interview qualified as "lying to the American People." But there is no question that it was protected by the First Amendment, which does not include an exception for journalism that strikes the president as misleading, biased, or unfair. Trump is avowedly determined to use any tools at his disposal to make sure "no one gets away" with covering the news in a way that offends him. That agenda, which goes far beyond vindicating legally plausible claims, is blatantly inconsistent with freedom of the press.
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I don’t know if it’s a good idea to protect fabricated stories in the “news”.
It's Jacob, what else does he have?
A raging case of TDS.
Incurable, even with strong antibiotics. Auto-defenestration is the recommended cure for TDS.
Rather than read and try to comprehend the actual content and verifiable truth of the article, you accuse the author of suffering from the nonexistent nonpathology that the MAGATry calls "TDS." This isn't discourse, nor discussion, nor argumentation but just idiotic, juvenile schoolyard name-calling.
FNG
Stick around a little more my friend.
Welcome to the party, fuckface.
Are you new here? If so, I’d strongly suggest reading Jacob Sullum’s long history of TDS throughout his many columns. The man is as deranged as Sarc over Orange Man Bad.
Found the sullum sock.
Forget it Chinatown, it’s Jake.
Trump should sue him.
Small change; Maddow has a larger audience.
Sullum is a discount Maddow?
Learning from the CBS incident with W Bush, you’d think he rather wouldn’t.
You're calling the WSJ report "fabricated?" And you know this how? Do you work at WSJ? Did you overhear some journalists conspiring to make Trump look bad by concocting a fake story? Do you suppose Rupert Murdoch doesn't know a wee bit more about defamation law than yourself? Or are you just saying you don't like the First Amendment?
Yes. Based on wsj having a single verbal source.
See:
Pee tapes
Elevator video
Losers
Even when we have actual video and full counter evidence reporters still try shit like fine people on both sides.
Fuck off retard.
Sullum pointed, correctly, dot dot dot
JS;dr
Good ol' Reason. A case so strong a major corporation settled out of court for $16M is "frivolous".
A major corporation might settle for reasons other than the strength of the case. Like, for example, if the opposing party in the case has the power to approve or reject a pending merger of said major corporation.
Trump would never abuse his power for petty revenge!
*stifles laughter*
Speaking of petty, remember that time you impersonated ML?
As hilarious as the time he tried getting sympathy for going sober for a weekend.
Holding democrats liable for abuses is wrong screams sarc mere months after cheerleaders those abuses.
You misspelled "Obama."
No, I did not.
Yes, it turns out you did.
Paramount settled because they were afraid of what discovery would reveal in their internal communications. It’s probably worse than that CNN case where that fellow who was smuggling refugees out of Afghanistan sued them for defamation.
This would be far worse, because they hate Trump so much. It’s certain that their internal communications would be filled with TDS.
Shari Redstone doesn't hate Trump. At least she didn't use to.
That they refused to even release a transcript of the interview seems pretty damning IMO.
I imagine it was probably worse than when the DNC got hacked and it was revealed that CBS (if I remember correctly) was giving Hillary the questions for the upcoming debates.
Fatass Donnie did call a free press the “enemy of the people”.
lol, no bites with that lie, eh shrike?
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
We see that in the glyphosate lawsuits. Glyphosate doesn't do anything to animal life and has been proven not to cause cancer in humans. Scientifically ignorant judges allow these suits and scientifically ignorant juries love to penalize all big businesses.
Or, to use a literary flourish like a respected SC Justice,...wait for it...,the internal communications which would be subject to the discovery process, would be more embarrassing than just cutting a check to make the issue disappear.
"A major corporation might settle for reasons other than the strength of the case..."
TDS-addled slimy piles of shit might grasp at straws to support their lies, TDS-addled slimy pile of shit.
Whas Doug Heffernan said.
Sock alert.
JS;Dr
not past “whatever the merits” LOLZ
"If Trump did in fact write, or at least authorize, the birthday letter that the Journal attributed to him, the paper did nothing that would justify civil damages. But if that letter is a forgery, as Trump implies, he might have a valid defamation claim."
If the claim is found to be valid, then it would not be an abuse of the legal system. We might have less of this if the journalism industry were not full of unprofessional partisan hacks acting as the Democrats' PR arm.
"But his lawsuit against CBS, which averred that the network committed consumer fraud by editing a pre-election 60 Minutes interview with former Vice President Kamala Harris in a way that made her seem slightly more cogent, was utterly frivolous."
Yet CBS settled, which suggests they did not think it was as completely frivolous as Sullum insists.
IMO, I think CBS settled to prevent discovery that would show something they thought was worth millions to keep from becoming public. My guess is it would show their marching orders came from the DNC. Or perhaps show collusion with other media outlets to get Trump.
That's my guess too. Would have been more fun if Trump had kept pushing and gone to discovery, but who knows all the $$$ calculations involved.
Of course it was to avoid discovery, just about everyone that doesn't have their head up their ass knows as much.
What they were trying to hide from discovery is anyone's guess, but the assumption is that there are emails and documents that essentially prove Trump's case. There isn't any other reason for them to avoid discovery, or to settle.
There is the possibility they just wanted to get it over with. Lawsuits are expensive and time consuming as it is and Trump has enough money to keep the case going. From a cost benefit analysis, it may have been cheaper to settle and take the L.
No, CBS settled because Shari Redstone wants the sale of the company to go through and a trial could take years. The people buying her company may not want to wait that long.
Don't invest in a business in the US. If it gets too big, Trump will be telling you how to run it.
Don't confuse Trump with Letisha James.
Or Obama.
Pure conjecture like Colbert was fired due to Trump.
One of the Winklevoss brats asked the better question...why would CBS keep that DNC propagandist on so long while losing so much money if not because they agree with his messaging?
As has been asked --- if they fired Colbert to make Trump happy, he would not have ten more months.
"No, CBS settled because Shari Redstone wants the sale of the company to go through"
Do you realize that if the case went to court, it would have been in Trump's interest to actually approve the sale (it's a merger, I believe)? So that he can do away any conflict of interest concerns?
Imagine a patent office suing an inventor for defamation, and then denying his earlier application for no apparent reason. Who looks bad there?
So which is more probable: that CBS paid a nuisance value settlement because it needed bully-boy Trump's approval of its pending merger, or that the DNC, which owns zero shares of CBS or its parent company, calls the shots at this news network with its thousand criticisms of Joe Biden? Paranoid conspiracists are never people having exposure to the real world of affairs, or any window into things actually work and what things are actually possible. It never occurs to them to ask "if my conjecture were true, WHAT ELSE WOULD ALSO NEED TO BE TRUE?" And this never occurs to them because they have never been exposed to the methods of critical thinking.
Yeah, kind of like that ridiculous conspiracy that the White House, health officials and the FBI may have violated the First Amendment rights of people posting about COVID-19 and elections on social media by pressuring technology companies to suppress or remove the posts. Oh, wait.
The writers of this story have strong anti trump bias, connections to FusionGPS, etc.
Malicious intent will be easy to find in discovery.
To win such a suit requires actual malice. No way Murdoch has malice towards Trump.
Murdoch didn't write the articles dumbfuck.
And if you were educated you'd know thr WSJ news decision has hired many anti trumpets and has moved far left this decade.
Perhaps you have forgotten the timeline. Trump told WSJ the story was "fake" and threatened to sue if they published. They published anyhow. Had Rupert caved, they wouldn't have. So it doesn't matter who wrote the article, although the two writers are also named defendants. What matters is WHO DECIDED TO PUBLISH IN THE FACE OF THREAT FROM THE MOST POWERFUL PERSON IN THE WORLD? Someone who knew the story was ironclad.
Non sequitur. Lol. Murdoch doesn't control the news division on a daily basis retard.
Now explain why she published this without verifying the letter even exists or seeing a copy.
Dumbass.
CBS settled because it didn't want it's already tarnished name dragged through the mud even more than it already has.
Sponsors of CBS listen to the news too, and if the news is not in favor of CBS, the sponsors probably would pull their ads from said network.
Whether or not CBS was indeed guilty of libel or not, it shows to me CBS had a lot more to hide should their trial drag on, possibly exposing possible embarrassing facts that would further Trump's suit.
"Waaaaaaahhhh, The Press is special! We should get to lie our asses off freely, without any repercussions!"
JS;fu
This is exactly how I read this "article".
Especially the "utterly frivolous" statement about the $16M settlement form CBS.
A settlement is not an admission of guilt. It just means that it's cheaper to pay the person off than to pay lawyers to fight them.
It can be for any number of reasons, such as not airing dirty laundry.
Like what?
Well, like not airing dirty laundry for one.
Anything that can and will be found during the discovery phase.
Like showing that they were actually trying to help Trump by making Harris look even worse?
"It can be for any number of reasons, such as not airing dirty laundry."
TDS-addled steaming piles of lying shit will grasp as any straw to support their lies, as did the TDS-addled steaming pile of lying shit did here.
Lawyer much? I thought not. You also don't read much, or think much, or know much, otherwise you'd tell us wherein and why the article is a "lie." But it's just so much easier to fling insults.
You've offered no intelligent arguments in this thread dumdum.
Neither have you dumdum. Insults are all you and your cousin, "Special Ed" Sevo, have. And your cultish loyalty to MAGA.
Pathetic. And sad.
The issue is not an admission of guilt, it subverts the assertion the suit was "utterly frivolous". That is a much different standard.
A lawsuit can be utterly frivolous and at the same time cost millions in legal fees. They're not mutually exclusive.
Agreed.
I believe Trump has been complaining about that.
What were your views on the Alex Jones suit again buddy?
The glyphosate lawsuits are utterly frivolous but lawyers get rich taking down businesses. Trump is now trying to do the same.
Why would CBS not release a transcript?
Don't want to release video? Weird, but OK. But no transcript either?
Dare I find your comments from sullums article regarding fox news?
Article here: https://reason.com/2023/04/18/in-a-788-million-defamation-settlement-fox-news-admits-that-it-spread-false-claims-about-election-fraud/
Poor sullum.
So libel is perfectly acceptable to Jacob so long as the person doing the libeling is a "journalist" and the target is an icky person to Marxist propagandists like him.
The assertion that Trump "might have a valid defamation claim" if the "letter is a forgery" is wildly overstating the strength of any potential defamation claim.
One party's self-serving denial of a story that is contradicted by other evidence is not sufficient to demonstrate that WSJ knew the story was false or was recklessly indifferent to the truth. To the contrary, asking for and printing Trump's statement of denial shows that they were taking steps to verify whether the story was true or not.
Regardless, if you read the story, it is written is classic lawyerly/libel-proof fashion. It says the letter "bear[s] Trump's name." It says that "[i]t isn't clear how the letter with Trump's signature was prepared." And it says that the note is "styled as an imaginary conversation between Trump and Epstein, written in the third person." What the article doesn't include is a full-fledged assertion that Trump authored the letter. So the entire lawsuit is built on a false premise. If the WSJ can prove that a letter purports to be from Donald Trump and has the content described in the article, it wins. It doesn't have to prove that Trump actually authored the letter to prevail on its "truth" defense.
So you admit it’s a flimsy story and it isn’t news.
It is news because Bondi and Trump have made it news by their incompetent bungling of the Epstein case. Had Bondi kept her mouth shut there would be no issue. But Bondi was mimicking her boss. Now even those of us who thought that the Epstein case was a total nothingburger are wondering what Trump is hiding. Remember that Trump is a convicted felon because he covered up stuff. He does not get the benefit of the doubt. And he can be called to testify in the civil suit that he just filed, and loses the suit if he doesn't answer all questions.
Do you just say any shit that comes to your mind?
His mind is shit.
Flush twice. It is long way to charlie’s head.
Not in the slightest! Combined with prior reporting on Trump's relationship with Epstein, I think it makes it very likely that Trump did, in fact, send the birthday note. But the WSJ couldn't confirm that as 100% fact, so they hedged their language a bit to protect themselves against legal recrimination.
Wsj admits they never saw the letter. How is that not indifference?
Where exactly did WSJ admit that? The article says exactly the opposite: "The letter bearing Trump's name, which was reviewed by the Journal, is bawdy -- like others in the album."
It was a copy of the words by their own admission, not the actual letter. A description of the letter. Hence why they say it was typed and they couldn't publish the letter.
Think through what you're saying. If they actually saw the letter why not publish.
You keep saying "by their own admission," but you haven't pointed me to where they admitted that. In contrast, I supplied you with a straight up assertion from WSJ that they reviewed the letter itself, not just a copy of the words (also, letters can be typed).
I'm not privy to why they chose not to publish the letter itself, but there are lots of plausible reasons. Maybe they thought it the image was too inappropriate to be printed, so they decided only to describe it rather than show it. More plausibly, showing the image itself can sometimes put the source at risk of exposure, so an outlet will sometimes withhold the image itself to avoid that result. In fact, that is exactly how Reality Winner got busted by the feds: The Intercept published a scan of the documents she released, and the FBI noted that the scans appeared to have been folded, which was information that later led to Winner's arrest.
As usual, we have people here in Reason offering 'legal analysts' without any actual legal training or understanding.
To be fair the non lawyers here seem yo understand the law more than the fake lawyers from volokh in the comments.
Who else sent Epstein a birthday card or letter?
Hitler?
Humbert Humbert?
Horshack?
But since Trump admits he was friends with Epstein in 2003 and for more than a decade prior to then, it is debatable whether the Journal's report caused any additional harm to the president's reputation, let alone damages adding up to "billions of dollars."
Fucking Sullum can't pull his head out of ass for 2 seconds to consider that 2003 was 4 years before the first time Epstein was brought up on charges, 16 years before his suicide in prison and concurrent with the government being accused of covering up Epstein's "list".
Regardless of how little I give a shit about any of it except if there was literal blackmail going on, there is no question that this press release was timed to make the administration look guilty of some kind of cover up in regards to Epstein.
Why don't they just publish the drawing and signature?
How can we be sure it's not Donald Cheatle or Donald Sutherland, both artists? Or perhaps Donald Rumsfeld? The WSJ does not explain this at all. What kind of paper are they running?
Wsj never had the drawing or signature as they admit to.
Then shouldn't they explain how they got the letter's text in the first place?
If they do not have it, SOMEBODY gave it to them.
Trump was also friends with Ghislaine Maxwell. Maybe she is a bit peeved Trump hasn't pardoned her yet despite procuring young girls for Trump 30yrs ago.
If memory serves; Ghislaine was the one who solicited people to contribute to the 50th birthday party greeting collection for Epstein as a birthday gift.
Wonder if ol' Ghislaine is the source?? She must have lots of receipts.
...source for a "letter" from before Epstein's proclivities were even known? Not sure what the point of THAT would be.
And why would she expect a pardon? Trump did not like Epstein and what he was doing. He would not look at Maxwell any more kindly.
Lol. More legal analysis from not a lawyer.
"Trump was also friends with Ghislaine Maxwell."
Guilt by association, slimy pile of TDS-addled shit?
They don't admit that, and they specifically say that they reviewed it. But they don't have to actually own and have permanent possession over the letter in order to report on it. It is sufficient that they personally reviewed it.
Make it make sense. They viewed it then were told they couldn't take a picture. Think of what you're saying lol. The viewed a description of the letter.
All a distraction.
The admin is either protecting a National Security agency or a corrupt prosecutor. The Federal government gave Epstein a sweet heart deal and I think American public should know why.
Drain the Swamp!
For all his government services. They just can't confirm or deny what those services were.
You're engaging a TDS-addled steaming pile of shit.
Wow, so now you're for protecting the CIA from disclosing they protected a pedo for nat security or a federal prosecutor taking a bribe?
Gee, some TDS-addled pile of shit is attempting to engage me.
Fuck off and die, shitstain.
I suspect both are accurate. CIA does not get sources who are clean or decent (clean, decent folks tend to give shitty intel on criminals and the like). And the prosecutor, Acosta (well, he was one of them), likely was bribed.
That too maybe a possibility. Something is definitely rotten in the federal government in this case.
Or the admin may be protecting Trump himself.
Probably not, unless the last admin was protecting Joe Biden.
That would also assume the last admin was protecting Trump.
If there's something for the Trump admin to hide, why would the Biden admin have hid it?
Because they were protecting Biden or the DNC in general. That would be the only reason not to burn Trump, that the files also include high ranking Dems.
I don't think that though.
I think Epstein was probably a money launder* for the CIA and the CIA protected Epstein like FBI did with Whitey Bulger.
*or other covert skullduggery
AOC gets an education?
"The front of Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s Bronx campaign office was defaced with red paint and a sign accusing her of funding “genocide in Gaza,” police said Monday.""
https://www.nydailynews.com/2025/07/21/aoc-bronx-office-vandalized-funds-gaza-genocide-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/
I wonder what the NYC mayoral candidate she supports has to say about this.
Wouldn't be surprised if the late night activists were his.
He is much smarter than AOC, but then that is an absurdly low bar.
One assumes he would just throw her under the bus at the first opportunity, if it does him any good, since now AOC is part of the 'establishment' herself.
There's not usually much of a downside to bashing whomever is currently in office by radical upstarts, and AOC should be well aware of that since it's at least part of how she got into office.
“I never thought it would happen to me!”
Mamdani's policies are more stupid even than AOC's.
Should have been under the heading:
Scenes from New York
JS;dr
I recall people arguing that Trump caused the iNsUrReCtIoN®™ merely by promoting Badthink®™, even though promoting Badthink®™ is protected by the First Amendment.
Hey Jacob, what was your take on Alex Jones again?
Have the authors produced any sort of corroborating evidence to demonstrate that it might not be a complete fabrication?
Has Trump produced any to demonstrate that it is?
Harvard grad Charlie hall everyone! On trump to prove a non existence. Lol.
How would you propose he do that?
How embarrassing.
He says he did not write it. It certainly does not SOUND like Trump in any way, shape, or form.
If Trump says he did not write it, then WSJ kinda has to prove he did. Or say they were wrong with a front page story admitting it.
WSJ article does not say "Trump wrote it." Article says it "bears Trump's name." Which you may certain that it does. Here's another thing you may be certain of: because he's claiming a preposterous ten billion$ in reputational damage, Trump will have to sit for what he never does: a deposition UNDER OATH. How I would love being the lawyer in charge of that questioning. As, one by one, we go through the dozens of defamation cases he has filed and withdrawn, or that were thrown out for facial insufficiency, or that he lost on the merits at trial, and how this one is supposedly different. Trump will lose this case on summary judgment before his deposition is ever taken.
Why would Trump have to be deposed?
The claims of fact supporting the damages are part of the written submission to the court - they are not things the opposing lawyer then goes and asks the plaintiff to supply in a deposition.
You are especially stupid today. Eat a double portion of Moron-Os this morning?
The TDS-addled slimy pile of lying shit Sullum hardest hit!
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
"Safdar and Palazzolo say their account is based on "documents" that they "reviewed," along with information from "people familiar with them.""
Since Trump's first election, has there ever been as big of an industry increase as people "familiar" with things? I hear about these people all the time it seems. These nameless people "familiar" with things.
Oh wait, now I've become familiar of people that are familiar with things! It's spreading!
REO Speedwagon level of proof. Not Coldplay level.
Did REO Spedwagon even have a kiss cam?
JS;dr
The spirit of that scumbag Roy Cohn lives on inside Fatass Donnie. He attacks those who keep the story of his pedophilia bestie Epstein in the news.
What happened to your original account again?
I believe it was permabanned for the posting of dark web hardcore child porn links to Reason. The bigger question is what happened to his SPB2 account. Did lightning strike twice?
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Amazing that people here are giving a guy who was convicted of felony document fraud and has a long history of false and defamatory attacks on others the benefit of the doubt. Anyone not a Cult member of Putin stooge would agree that Trump himself needs to disprove the validity of the document in question.
The fact you think the NYC conviction is valid is more a sign of your liberal retardation than anything else.
How is Trump's conviction "not valid?" Was it overturned on appeal? Or do you know something about legal validity that lawyers don't?
Lol. Fuck you're dumb.
A) misdemeanor past dates
B) upgraded to felony
C) based on federal law
D) with a choose your own adventure predicate crime jury instruction
E) no victims.
D) false monetary valuation which double counted profit gains.
F) instructions to bank to make their own valuations
Yes you fucking retard. It will get overturned.
I get it. Youre a fucking dumbass liberal.
The judgments of conviction remain legally valid, albeit "erroneous," even if overturned on appeal, unless or except if the prosecution, or some essential part thereof, is deemed unconstitutional. Is Trump appealing on constitutional grounds? Did he preserve any federal constitutional grounds at trial? Or do you even know what that means? See, in law as in logic, there's a difference between truth and validity, not that you'd be capable of grasping it.
Not saying I trust Trump, but why should we trust the media when they were lying about Biden's mental health?
Toadies gonna toad.
Not shocked you're so dumb you agree with proving a negative.
Trump himself needs to disprove the validity of the document in question.
Dumbass.
The NY case? The fraud for internal documents that were not fraudulent in the slightest and would never have been released before the election?
That one?
Add into that the fact that nobody can name a similar claim where two parties of equal knowledge of the real estate system and where NEITHER party expressed any problems with the loan and it was paid off with interest was used to secure a felony conviction outside of the statute of limitations with no needed jury agreement on what the "underlying crime" was to make it a felony ---- you don't have concerns?
I keep hearing "Republicans should be worry about what happens when they lose power" all of the time --- but THIS does not lead to any warnings for Democrats?
Also he said he did not do it. Since WSJ never held the document in the first place, they have nothing at all to rebut him with.
"...Anyone not a Cult member of Putin stooge would agree that Trump himself needs to disprove the validity of the document in question..."
Anyone who wasn't a TDS-addled slimy pile of lying lefty shit would be embarrassed to have typed that.
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
I’m not surprised that you think the NY case meant anything more than proof of a witch hunt.
And then to double down on the debunked Russia hoax?
Goddamn man, have some self respect.
Hickamore is a retarded believer too.
Why am I not surprised to find Fake Jake the Narrative Hack defending this.
'Fake News' Is Not a Tort
This one literally meets every element of outright libel.
Fake news is a tort when it's actionably defamatory, as Sullum explains. And as he further explains, the WSJ story would not be actionably defamatory even if some detail turned out false.
"Since Trump and White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt both told the Journal the letter was "fake" prior to publication, a jury might reasonably conclude that the paper acted recklessly, assuming that Trump did not really write the letter" -- why? Trump has denied any number of things that were true, starting with Obama's U.S. birth. There is such a thing as crying wolf. If not for Trump's history, yeah maybe reckless, but the history's there.
Retarded even for a leftist.
Was your coffee laced with "stupid" this morning, TDS-addled steaming pile of shit? Certainly looks that way.
Fuck off and die, shitstain.
Trump denying Obama's birth vs Trum denying an accusation made against him - see the difference?
See, a real journalist would say, "Is this credible? Can you verify its authenticity?" If so, then they might publish it against the denials of the White House.
But when they can't...
You, on the other hand, go with the Fake News approach. "This isn't credible and it's been denied, but f that guy we hate him so publish it just to poison the well."
NGL, this is why cries of 1A Press fall on deaf ears to me these days. I'd be happy to defend it - if we were actually defending journalism. Jakey Fakey types like to wear the Constitution as a skinsuit. It's not anything they respect or defend, just use and abuse for their own purposes.
Jihadis behind women and children. That's any and every leftist "news" purveyor in America at this point. Hiding behind 1A to engage in open hostilities against America. Jake Sullum especially.
I'd just as soon shove his press pass down his throat until he blacks out, and then let him wake up in a blacksite from which he'd never emerge. I don't agree with Trump on any and every thing, but he's dead-on-balls correct on this point:
The mainstream media is the Enemy of the People.
We have a civil legal system where defamation claims are tested in court resulting in meritless claims failing and valid claims succeeding.
Trump avails himself of this system, often successfully, and Sullum claims that by using the system he's "abusing" it. What a strange guy.
Sort of like enforcing laws makes Trump = Hitler to TDS-addled slimy piles of lying shit.
But then Sullum is a TDS-addled slimy pile of lying shit who should fuck off and die.
Trump spends millions of dollars initiating lawsuits which force the other party to either spend millions of dollars defending themselves over the course of years thanks to motion after motion, or spend millions of dollars on a settlement that makes it go away. He's the poster boy for vexatious litigation.
Yes, he should just use the power of government to do his bidding like Obama and Biden did.
I’d say he should ignore it, but I’m not even sure that would work. And I’m not sure he’s capable of it.
He's not.
"Often successfully?" Hardly. Trump has won exactly zero cases that went to trial and has "won" exactly zero settlements for more than a tiny fraction of the sum sued for. All the others were either thrown out for facial insufficiency at an early stage, or decided against him on summary judgment, or he settled for nuisance value or appeasement value. Even the Stephanopoulos settlement was based on a legal technicality having to do with the relevant legal definition of "rape" in that jurisdiction at the time in question. Look at the actual record and there is no doubt Trump is a major frivolous litigator, filing meritless defamation claims with full knowledge that by becoming a public figure, he has made himself fair game. If all these lawsuits had been filed in the same venue, he'd have been barred by the court long ago.
"Whatever the merits of this particular defamation claim, the president has a long history of abusing the legal system to punish constitutionally protected speech."
Or, alternatively, you can actually discuss the merits of the case regardless of Trump's alleged abuse of the legal system. Because you know, a publication alleging that a president was connected to a pedo ring is a serious accusation.
"President" Trump does not have a history of abusing the legal system to suppress speech. Playboy millionaire Donald may have, given that he was a magnet for tabloid rumors. Unethical maybe, but not unheard of. Surely you don't begrudge a man for for taking legal resource made available to him, then dismiss SM platforms taking down truthful speech as "it's just private business"
The remarkable thing here is that Sullum continues to see the media as victims of Trump's Hitler cosplay, despite their near decade of deception on the Hunter Biden laptop, Joe's mental decline, Covid, Russia probe, and "genocide" in Gaza. Do you hear CNN blaring sirens on Muslims slaughtering Christians and Druze in Syria? Child laborers in the fields of CA pot farms? CHILD LABORERS?
Do you know why CBS feared discovery? It's because the head honchos couldn't be sure there was no one below who said "OMG this hurts her election chances, let's edit it" in emails, conversations, etc. The outcome ultimately doesn't matter, the intent does. Trump may lose the case on legal merits, but win a larger battle, and possibly another avenue for lawsuits.
CNN lost the defamation suit because their reporters were found to WANT their victim to be a human trafficker. I mean, it's not like these lizards hide the fact that they're trump hating democrat operatives who want Trump dead. They're NOT journalists. These people saw a president nearly get his head get blown off, then whined about developing PTSD over the crowd looking at them all mean.
The press isn't sued for defamation nearly enough, especially after the Warren court unlawfully and unilaterally amended the Constitution in New York Times Co. v. Sullivan.