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Cancel Culture Monkeys and Military Industrial Menaces: James Gunn's Superman Is a Silly Delight

Superman is not "Superwoke."

Peter Suderman | 7.11.2025 10:32 AM

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The first and most important thing to say about James Gunn's Superman is that there's a really cute superdog, Krypto. Like Superman himself, he's fundamentally good at heart, but sometimes struggles to behave. What if your loveable-but-not-particularly-well-trained pooch had super strength and the ability to fly? It's cute. If you like the idea of a sidekick super pet, you'll probably like this movie. 

But since the conversation around the movie has shifted to its right-wing critics, who are upset that Gunn described Superman as an "immigrant," let's take a step back. 

Imagine, for a moment, that a superhero actually existed in something like the real world, and that comic scenarios—giant monsters attacking cities, super-powered fist fights above major metros, alien invasions, and so forth—were a regular part of our lives. It is impossible to imagine such scenarios without immediately understanding that they would be viewed as political events, with political consequences. If guys in capes were knocking down tall buildings with any sort of frequency, the government would surely have something to say. 

In superhero comic books themselves, this has been understood for decades. Just to name a few examples: Alan Moore's Watchmen was premised partly on the political realignment that would come from a real-life superpowered figure, Frank Miller's Dark Knight Returns positioned Superman as Batman's true enemy and a tool of Reaganite overreach, and Mark Millar's controversial run on The Authority dealt with a super-team that intervened in global political affairs, to the frustration of actual elected officials. All of these stories took for granted that superpowers were an inherently political force, whether or not for good. 

But superhero movies have largely avoided the political implications of superheroes and superpowers, even in films like The Batman or Captain America: Civil War, where politics were ostensibly invoked. Those movies, whatever their other strengths, mostly gestured vaguely at the idea of politics while painstakingly avoiding saying anything specific about them or even treating them as live concerns in the world. 

So it's refreshing to see that writer-director James Gunn's new take on Superman takes the political connotations of Superman as a given, understanding that the Man of Steel would exist in a political context in a political world, with all the mess and moral complication that entails. 

And yet despite trolling critics suggesting that—and it makes me so exhausted to type this—it's not Superman but "Superwoke," this movie does so in a way that never comes across as lecturing or hectoring or gratingly preachy. There's no psuedo-stirring Aaron Sorkin monologue to wrap things up, just a nifty little speech about what it means to be a decent human, even a super one. Gunn's Superman is a pleasantly light cartoon fantasy about the struggle for common decency. 

We get brief scenes in which the villainous Lex Luthor tries to sell weapons to the Department of Defense and get official permission to kill his super nemesis. There's a moment when Superman is arrested—he turns himself in—and is informed that he has no rights, simply because he's an alien. The movie's plot revolves around the invasion of one fictional country by its authoritarian neighbor, an invasion that Superman tries repeatedly to stop. On cable news, Luthor asks who put "unelected metahumans" in charge of the nation's foreign policy? Lois Lane, both a newspaper reporter and Superman's girlfriend, asks a version of the same question: Who is he to intervene, to make policy, to decide? 

Meanwhile, Superman's world now includes the chaos and cultural detritus of modernity, and all the unpleasantness that comes with it. There's a funny aside about how Green Lantern, a supporting hero who steals every scene he's in, has taken a vow not to get involved in politics: when challenged on the specifics of the vow, he fumes that it's clearly implied. 

Gunn's Superman is not a figure of pure adoration: as a public, politicized figure in the modern world, he inevitably has haters online, and they have organized around a profane nickname that drives him nuts. As it turns out, the haters are not bots, but computer-controlled monkeys Luthor has hidden in an unstable pocket dimension, apparently with internet access, who post incessant social media garbage designed to poison public discourse and turn opinion against the hero. If infinite monkeys can create Shakespeare, they can also create Twitter mobs. 

Yes, Luthor's plan is to have Superman canceled on social media—not a particularly surprising plot point, given that Gunn himself was at one point briefly canceled over his own years-old, gross-out social media provocations. 

Gunn nodded to this in his previous DC Comics feature, The Suicide Squad, in which the villain used mind-control to brainwash the public into a mindless, murderous conformity. The deep earnestness of Superman's hatred for the mean hashtag suggests that Gunn has probably been quite aggravated by online name-calling too. 

This might sound like a ripped-from-Twitter Superman, entirely embroiled in of-the-moment triviality, but I promise it's not. 

Gunn's Superman is only a good enough movie. It's overstuffed with plot and somewhat frantically paced. While it blessedly avoids the origin story trap that has plagued so many superhero movie reboots, it probably relies a little too much on preexisting knowledge of DC Comics lore. Yes, I watched the triumphant '90s animated series, so I'm familiar with the lesser-known characters—but how many viewers already recognize Metamorpho? 

But if Gunn's movie is only good enough as cinema, it's a great take on Superman—upbeat, earnest, cartoonish, brightly colored, more than a little silly, but enamored with the idea, and challenge, of human goodness and decency in a world that wants to bring him down. That Superman is an alien, an outsider, and, yes, an immigrant from another world only makes him see the challenge more clearly, without the jadedness that comes from familiarity.

Gunn's Superman, the character, is a superhero who tries to be good in the world as it exists, which is to say a world of politics and politicization, a world with cancel culture monkeys and various military industrial menaces. Gunn's Superman, the movie, tries to be good and decent in a real world that can't help but politicize everything. The film's irritable political critics clearly couldn't manage that feat. What makes this Superman super, despite its flaws, is that in this difficult task, it largely succeeds. 

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  1. Eeyore   2 months ago

    Is maybe the wokedar broken?

  2. Mickey Rat   2 months ago

    "But since the conversation around the movie has shifted to its right-wing critics, who are upset that Gunn described Superman as an "immigrant," let's take a step back."

    And again, one gets the impression that this is again largely manufactured outrage, by smug left leaning entertainment outlets, because they like such negative publicity and their own moral preening. The quotes given do not support the contention that Gunn's comments about Superman being an immigrant is what was being objected to.

    "While it blessedly avoids the origin story trap that has plagued so many superhero movie reboots, it probably relies a little too much on preexisting knowledge of DC Comics lore."

    You can do do without the origin story, or you can avoid leaning on knowledge of existing lore. I do not think you can do both.

    1. VULGAR MADMAN   2 months ago

      It was a vanity fair fruitcake who sprung this on Gunn.
      They’re right wing, right? Yep, another Reason retard rodeo.

      1. Mickey Rat   2 months ago

        That guy is an insufferable asshole.

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

        Yeah, I recognized that faggot's voice the second I heard it. I'm surprised the bugchaser didn't ask Gunn if this was "the GAAAYYYYEST Superman ever".

      3. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

        That dude is halarious. His job is to generate headlines and click bait, and boy I wish I was as good at my job as he is at his.

        1. mad.casual   2 months ago

          Disagree. He's Howard Stern with less spine, commitment, and/or talent. Carving apart a movies audience to bounce political talking points is going to get him, officially or unofficially blacklisted.

          He's SSDD with a hundred other 'tubers and Tiktokers with "Natty or not?"-type questions. The only issue is slow Boomers and klinger SJWs think putting actors or directors or whomever on the spot with "Jews or Palestinians?" is gonna sell more tickets or do more social good.

          Clicks have yet to fill even a single theater. Click bait is just bait. Especially given that even you, an auspicious fan or appreciator know him as "that dude" and Vulgar Madman knows him as "vanity fair fruitcake". He's not even Whitney Cummings-level, flashi-in-the-pan/controversially "famous".

    2. Dan S.   2 months ago

      You can safely assume most audience members know that Superman arrived on Earth in a rocket ship from the dying planet Krypton. You can't safely assume most audience members are familiar with secondary DC characters like Metamorpho and Guy Gardner, the angry Green Lantern. So yeah, you can avoid explaining the one but not avoid explaining the other.

      Superman has always been an immigrant, and yes, an undocumented one, since there are no documents or forms that could handle immigration from the planet Krypton. There was even a song about that. But I guess if adoption by U.S. citizen parents grants citizenship to the adoptee, then Clark Kent is a citizen.

  3. sarcasmic   2 months ago

    As it turns out, the haters are not bots, but computer-controlled monkeys Luthor has hidden in an unstable pocket dimension, apparently with internet access, who post incessant social media garbage designed to poison public discourse and turn opinion against the hero.

    You know, that explains a lot.

    1. VULGAR MADMAN   2 months ago

      Keep drinking.

    2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      Youre just mad because despite pushing all Act Blue narratives they dont pay you.

    3. SQRLSY   2 months ago

      The computer-controlled monkeys right here would like to KILL Superman, and anyone and everyone else who makes rational, data-driven, or socially benevolent comments of ANY kind! The computer-controlled monkeys do SNOT want ANYONE who is morally-ethically any better than they are, making them look bad!

      Ass usual...

      The intelligent, well-informed, and benevolent members of tribes have ALWAYS been feared and resented by those who are made to look relatively worse (often FAR worse), as compared to the advanced ones. Especially when the advanced ones denigrate tribalism. The advanced ones DARE to openly mock “MY Tribe’s lies leading to violence against your tribe GOOD! Your tribe’s lies leading to violence against MY Tribe BAD! VERY bad!” And then that’s when the Superman-killers, Jesus-killers, Mahatma Gandhi-killers, Martin Luther King Jr.-killers, etc., unsheath their long knives!

      “Do-gooder derogation” (look it up) is a socio-biologically programmed instinct. SOME of us are ethically advanced enough to overcome it, using benevolence and free will! For details, see http://www.churchofsqrls.com/Do_Gooders_Bad/ and http://www.churchofsqrls.com/Jesus_Validated/ .

      Then they crucified Jesus, 'cause Jesus made them look bad! ALSO because Jesus made them look bad FOR THEIR STUPID, HIDE-BOUND TRIBALISM! "The parable of the Good Samaritan" was VERY pointed, because the Samaritans were of the WRONG tribe, in the eyes of "Good Jews" of the day.

      Instead of KILLING Superman, Jesus, Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Luther King Jr., etc., we’d be better off VOTING for these kinds of people! But we will NOT, ’cause they Hurt Our Precious Baby Feelings, by giving tribalism and do-gooder derogation the disrespect that they (and we self-righteous tribalists) SOOO thoroughly deserve!

  4. Dillinger   2 months ago

    superunnecessary

  5. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

    There isn't a single man in the superman movie. Every guy cries. Superman is an emotional bitch. Lex Luther is an emotional bitch. Gun can't do a super hero movie.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      The irony is that Christopher Reeve already noted that his take on Superman was to reflect a more sensitive, vulnerable 70s male. And as fun as that movie was, I'm still trying to figure out exactly what Clark saw in Lois that he thought acting like some bumbling, stumbling softie would have impressed a ballbuster like her, because her attitude towards Superman showed that she clearly wanted Chad Thundercock, not some four-eyed wuss. Kal-El actually has to do nothing more than be himself to impress her.

      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

        Reves perfected changing from the bumbling Clark Kent nerdy persona to Superman. Clark Kent is a cover Id and needs to be as seperate as possible from SUPERMAN. rewath superman 1 and the Donner cut with that in mind. They will be different movies

    2. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

      Lex Luther is an emotional bitch.

      That's realistic. Violent men are often emotionally effeminate.

      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

        But lex Luther isn't violent. He is evil, cold, and calculating.

    3. SQRLSY   2 months ago

      Well Golly Gee, Rev Auschwitz L Knucklehead (Banana-Up-My-Ass Every Day), stop CRYING about this, You PervFected whining cry-baby of a Prima Donna / Emotional Bitch! Cry MORE, why don't You?

  6. Use the Schwartz   2 months ago

    Luthor's plan is to have Superman canceled on social media

    Nerp, I'm washing my hair that night.

  7. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

    The message of Superman is that you can only raise a decent human being if they're brought up far away from the filthy, corrupt, deviant cities and cared for by church-going white farmers with pro-American values.

    1. Roberta   2 months ago

      The Village?

      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

        The village is my favorite movie. 5 min in I bet all of my friends 10 bucks each that its present day upstate New youk. I made $120 that day

        Edit: the movie sucked, but I made bank. And yes it was the first screening

        1. DesigNate   2 months ago

          Shamylan (sp?) is nothing if not predictable.

      2. mad.casual   2 months ago

        Did you actually watch The Village?

    2. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

      There's a lot of truth in that.

    3. CE   2 months ago

      Yeah, they always gloss over that part, and try to make the Kents liberals.

  8. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

    pooch had super strength and the ability to fly

    Simpsons did it first.

    https://youtu.be/4tvAjX5ACPo?si=x8GAZZFkjTF3u7nb

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      Sorry dude, krypto first appeared in the comics in the 50's. About 3 decades befor the Simpsons started

  9. Rick James   2 months ago

    But since the conversation around the movie has shifted to its right-wing critics, who are upset that Gunn described Superman as an "immigrant," let's take a step back.

    Um, I kind of live in that 'right-wing movie critic' space who are often associated with... *clears throat* MAGA, and they don't think this movie is particularly woke. Whatever wokeness is being placed upon it is likely because of the well-known twink who does the red carpet interviews for these movies who often tries aggressively to attach woke themes to movies as some kind of an effort to troll-- who did just that during the red carpet interviews.

    I'm beginning to think Suderman is one of those paid critics, carefully chosen by the studios to tweet about the movies.

    1. Social Justice is neither   2 months ago

      What I find disgustingly dishonest by Superman is the narrative of Superman as immigrant and the movie is political was intentionally created by the Leftist journo but only the reaction to that framing is worthy of being called out. Sorry Suderman, your allies made this it's on you and yours.

      1. mad.casual   2 months ago

        Yeah, it's so blatant that Sudermans "right wing critics" argument is clearly dishonest.

        This is the same dirt-stupid baiting as Black Little Mermaid.

    2. CE   2 months ago

      Superman has always been an illegal immigrant, who goes to work under an assumed identity, with a fake ID. How did Clark Kent get a Real ID anyway?

      Sure, he does good deeds and saves the day, but how are they going to send him back to Krypton? It's gone.

  10. AT   2 months ago

    I haven't seen it, but going from what I've heard, I rather like the immigrant angle it's taking. It's the message on immigration that America SHOULD be sending.

    Specifically, when it comes to immigrants: we want well-meaning, good-natured, morally-upright people, brought up with what we'd regard as midwest conservative ideology, who learned the value of hard work, were taught responsibility and accountability and self-restraint by a Christian nuclear family, speak English, made a very conscious effort to assimilate, don't commit crime or engage in depraved/perverted behaviors, and have a genuine desire to help the community, state, and nation that took them in - rather than take away from it.

    I think that's the most positive immigration message ever.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      Sure, but what Superman represents is what was considered normal regarding immigration at the time the comics came out in the 1930s--if you're going to immigrate to the US, adopt US values, assimilate into US culture, and defend those things when they're threatened. The concept of the melting pot was subverted by the New Left and their internationalist enablers after World War II due to the long-standing obsession these types have with world government and putting the entire planet under some managerialist technocracy.

      1. AT   2 months ago

        Fair, but there's no reason we can't require modern immigration policy to reflect 1930s Superman qualities.

    2. mad.casual   2 months ago

      I think that's the most positive immigration message ever.

      That's the undue good faith interpretation.

      This is more of the same "WWJD? Support immigrants with welfare!" by people who explicitly think believing in someone like Jesus is dumb.

      1. AT   2 months ago

        I think we should adopt it as our unequivocal requirement. Failure to meet any one of those qualities results in immediate rejection for immigration/visa application. Sneak in or overstay your welcome, and it's an automatic breach of those conditions resulting in instant deportation and permanent bar from future application.

        They should have to provide a history of their lives from child-to-adulthood, their once/still-married biological parents will serve as their only references, Christian beliefs are required, a solid/stable work history must be illustrated, proof of zero criminal record of any kind, illustrate fluent English, and the citizenship test will test on both American civics/history AND Christian/conservative morality and values.

        And I say we prioritize some over others based on demographics. White Europeans get higher priority over Latinos. Black Christians from the African diaspora get higher priority over pretty much anyone from the Middle East. Japan/S. Korea get higher priority over China and South Asia.

        I have no objection to immigration on its face. I just want our immigrants to aspire to Superman, rather than Joker, Doomsday, Venom, or Loki.

    3. CE   2 months ago

      And Americans on all political sides should rejoice that most of the people seeking to immigrate here are Christian, pro-life, pro-family types who are willing to work hard to get ahead. Repubs are not thinking strategically when they push those immigrants into the woke Dem camp they wouldn't otherwise fit into.

  11. Super Scary   2 months ago

    I haven't seen it yet, so I can't fully speak on this but I think it's a bit strange that DC movies continue to try and introduce like 3 or 4 other superheroes in a movie. That's not to say I want a Hawkgirl or Guy Gardner movie, but it seems like they want to have the Marvel style "Oh, this guy/girl is in this movie too?!" feeling without doing the groundwork.

  12. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

    I don't like fantasy stories much, since they just make up whatever rules they want and change them whenever they want.

    However, this one did sound like it could have been an interesting comedy take, with Superman getting in trouble with immigration, politicians taking sides, the woke going berserk, cancel culture and safe spaces and trying to make his story fit their purposes, bureaucrats getting in the way, legal problems out the wazoo. Lots of potential. Unfortunately, I can't tell from this review if that's what it does. And a Superdog? Why?

    And it seems to still have all the contradictions of fantasy superheroes who can do anything, yet somehow get stymied by the dumbest plot devices.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      One of Gunn's biggest issues is that he doesn't really appear to be able to do comic book movies adaptations that don't involve some kind of buddy team concept. This should be a Superman movie, but it looks a lot more like a Superfriends film that puts Superman in the lead of the buddies.

      On top of that, Gunn can't help but marinate in the same arch, quippy, self-deprecating irony in his screenwriting that Joss Whedon suffers from. It's like listening to a bunch of teenage girls hurl passive-aggressive retorts at each other.

  13. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

    “Reaganite Overreach”??

    What overreach was that, Mr Sortawoke?

    1. Rick James   2 months ago

      Tariffs, I'm guessing.

    2. SQRLSY   2 months ago

      "...Frank Miller's Dark Knight Returns positioned Superman as Batman's true enemy and a tool of Reaganite overreach..."

      Shysternet's Privates are gonna have to go and ask that question of Frank Miller, shit seems to me.

      Shysternet's Privates positioned Mr. Sortawoke ass a bumbling fool's tool, on Reason.cum cumments, and then other Reason.cum cummentors asked, "WHY, Satan, WHY? WHY does Reason.cum act like a bunch of bumbling fool's tools?"

      Also, Reason.cum writers wrote that Shitler hated Jews, positioning Shitler ass a Jew-hater, and then Shysternet's Privates wanted to know why Reason.cum hated Jews!

  14. Kungpowderfinger   2 months ago

    So the most click-bait worthy article currently on Reason is unreadably boring.

    Do they give Razzies for film reviews?

  15. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 months ago

    Lost me at "pocket dimension". Soooooo tired of other dimensions.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      Flat land the movie! Let's goooooooooo!

  16. Marshal   2 months ago

    But since the conversation around the movie has shifted to its right-wing critics, who are upset that Gunn described Superman as an "immigrant," let's take a step back.

    Translation: let's get to important matters, defending my allies against those I hate.

  17. XM   2 months ago

    Oh, for the love humanity, stop with the Superman as immigrant allegory.

    I’ve been an immigrant here for 20 years, and Clark Kent’s American experience couldn’t be more different than mine. He’s a white male from Kansas. The end. His alter ego is a flying being who shoots lasers from his eyes, so he invites distrust from some section of society.

    If you want to make superficial projections on the “outsider” theme, I could point out that immigrants are more like general Zod, who invades the nation and seeks to recreate his homeland society on earth. Most immigrants live in ethnic bubbles where they can speak and deal in their own culture. Again, nothing like Clark Kent.

    For the record, MAGA isn’t angry that Superman s an “immigrant.” The issue is that the left project their wishful idea of an immigrant onto Superman and would charge those who insist on border enticement as hateful bigots. It’s a smear propaganda.

    Most people don’t identify Elon as an immigrant. The left hate him, but will count his contribution to America as from an “immigrant” when it serves their agenda. See the game that’s being played?

    1. mad.casual   2 months ago

      See the game that’s being played?

      Like AT, too generous. Reason and Cato have been explicitly playing it since Snyder made Batman v. Superman. Referring to criminal, illegal alien invaders as undocumented immigrants and citing studies were a company founded by 10 natives and the child of one immigrant as an "immigrant-owned company".

  18. mad.casual   2 months ago

    Mister Mxyzptlk was an immigrant! General Zod was an immigrant! Magneto was an immigrant! Ra's Al Ghul was an immigrant! Loki was an immigrant! Venom was an immigrant! Galactus was an immigrant! Thanos was an immigrant! Red Skull was an immigrant!

    Fuck your "If you don't support immigrants, you aren't American." horseshit, Gunn, and fuck your dishonest water-carrying Suderman.

  19. Marc St. Stephen   2 months ago

    You know, not mentioned here is how many remakes do we need? Granted, the first 70s movie is kinda tacky and didn't age well (including the sequels); the next one was okay, "Man of Steel", I'll give credit was a good remake, but I won't see this simply because endless remakes tire me. Create something new.

    1. mad.casual   2 months ago

      I've seen critiques of the "backlash" over the preview clip of the "nursebots" tending to Superman's injuries.

      Setting aside that the whole thing is not Superman any more than Pride and Prejudice With Zombies is Pride and Prejudice... Gunn and the MCU have played out *both* the snarky, quippy motley Super crew schtick *and* the robot-as-sarcastic-straight-man schtick.

      I get the robots with wry humor joke. I've seen/read Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Futurama, Interstellar, and Rogue One. I watched the Terminator learn "Hasta La Vista, Baby" and "Chill out, dickwad." in the theaters. I watched Johnny 5 gain sentience. Dot Matrix was a not-completely-terrible, but forgettable background character in Spaceballs... I don't need Superman's autonomous nurses to bring levity to the fact that he's being wheeled into the Fortress of Solitude's ER.

      1. DaveKunard   2 months ago

        Superman's robots who helped him recover in the Fortress of Solitude has been a part of the comics forever.

        Interpeting them as "nurses" is porjecting, they do a lot of things.

    2. DaveKunard   2 months ago

      Comic books are ongoing stories where the heroes are continously updated to fit into whatever age it is.

      Just like there will be movies made out of greek mythology or shakespeare, some cultural things will get remade and retold for a long time

  20. Chumby   2 months ago

    Looks as gay as Richard Simmons. Pass.

  21. jonnysage   2 months ago

    Superman isnt an immigrant. Clark is, but no one knows that. Hes a white male natural born citizen from Kansas as far as anyone knows. Superman lives in a cave or spaceship on the moon for all anyone knows. Then he just shows up and saves people.

    But, movies like this are supposed to be escapist.Good guy, bad guy, simple motives, goodness for the good guy, evil for the bad guy. Mixing in narratives where youre going to annoy a significant number of people is just dumb.

  22. CE   2 months ago

    Marvel's Captain America: Civil War didn't just "touch on" politics -- it was a central plot point and the reason the various heroes split into two opposing teams. The government was trying to force all of the super dudes and super chicks to sign the Sokovia Accords, which stated in part that the government had to give prior approval before the Avengers could be deployed, rather than acting as free agents to do good based on their own say-so. It's the same idea the Superman movie is getting at -- if the superhero is as powerful as a small atomic bomb, who gets to decide when he is deployed? Who gets to determine what objectives are okay to pursue? Who pays for the collateral damage?

    1. jonnysage   2 months ago

      Superman gets to decide. Even if he lets others decide, its still his choice to let them or to act, or to pay for the damage. No one can force him.

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