The Trade War Is Eroding America's Soft Power
The debate over free trade should include more than the costs of Trump's tariffs versus the value of cheaper stuff.

The direct cost of President Donald Trump's trade war will be borne by American consumers and businesses—of that, there should no longer be much debate.
But trade wars also come with indirect costs and unforeseen consequences. Some of those show up on balance sheets in the form of lower profits, losses in the stock market, or stagnating wages. Some are best counted under the Christmas tree, where higher prices might mean fewer toys (as the president now admits) and other goodies that make life a little more joyful, as tariffs squeeze wallets and reduce discretionary income.
Others are trickier to sum up, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.
"The administration's trade policy sends a message to the world: America is an unreliable ally that sees you only as a source of wealth; and if you don't have wealth, you'll pay for it," writes Iain Murray, senior fellow at the Competitive Enterprise Institute, in an essay recently published in The Daily Economy, a blog run by the American Institute for Economic Research.
Murray's essay gets at a point that seems underappreciated in the ongoing debate over tariffs, trade deficits, and Trump's (possibly unconstitutional) wielding of tariffs as part of an effort to overhaul the global trading system that he believes is unfair to the United States. The benefits of free trade for America go beyond tangible things like the "cheap stuff" that nationalists on the political right disdain. And the costs of blowing up the global trading system will include the loss of American "soft power" and the geopolitical influence that comes with it, Murray warns.
"The United States' role as a linchpin of this system has enhanced its position as the pre-eminent global power," writes Murray. "Yet the new administration's curious tariff policy threatens all of this, for no discernible benefit."
Trump views trade as a zero-sum game in which one country wins and one country loses every time two individuals agree to exchange goods across national borders. He believes that America is losing those transactions and that trading less would make the country better off. A few weeks ago, while trade with China was grinding to a halt due to Trump's massive tariffs on imports from that country, the president said America was "making, in a certain way, $1.1 trillion" by not engaging in commerce.
That's economically foolish, but it's also geopolitically myopic. That's because American soft power rides on the back of the global trading system. American investment and purchasing power help build factories and lift people out of extreme poverty. For the countries that benefit from all that, American interests are first and foremost. Take away the benefits of trade, and the rest fades too, warns Murray.
Higher tariffs and reduced global trade "kills US soft power with these nations and leaves a geopolitical vacuum into which US rivals like China will expand," he writes. "High tariff rates on south east Asian countries, for example, will exacerbate the drift of those countries towards the Chinese sphere of influence that has been happening in the wake of trade uncertainty since the first Trump administration."
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Hey, dipshit. A "trade war" is one of the greatest examples of exerting soft power.
Good to see the most concise response is first.
Sure, it’s ignorant and wrong. But at least it’s first.
No, you’re just a retarded democrat shill.
Hey, dipshit - the point is the "trade war" you love so much will ERODE America's power and place on the global stage, making us weaker in the long run, not stronger. If that's your actual goal, then congrats. Exert away.
...because a production-less debt-ridden America certain = Power and place on the global stage or what?
Dependency = Strength? /s
Where do you clowns come up witch such silly premises to your arguments?
He's a retarded leftist. He definitely thinks dependency is strength. Bet is on at least 2 welfare programs.
Oh Great and Wise All-Knowing Expert of Expertology About EVERYTHING... Twat are YE PervFectly doing about YOUR dependencies on (addictions to) YOUR Illusions and Delusions of PervFection In All Things?
Inquiring Minds want to KNOW, damn-shit-all!!!
If'n Ye Truly ARE All-Knowing, Ye could PervFectly explain the above to us!
Who is dependent on anyone? Literally the point of free trade (and tariffs are the opposite of free trade) is that if one source is incapable ir unwilling to deliver the goods you need, there are a myriad of other places you can go to get what you need.
Free trade (again, the opposite of tariffs), by its very nature, eliminates dependence on any country or company.
Didn't you get embarrassed last time when you started an argiment with "assume all other variables are static?"
Now you write this: "is that if one source is incapable ir unwilling to deliver the goods you need,"
Lol. What unique good does China make?
This is your problem Nelson, you're just dumb. What you're defending is not a free market. It never was. You were lied to. But because you were so ignorant, you believed it.
"it's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled"
The dependence you deny being created already fucking exists. The fake free trade globalists are already screaming about pharmaceuticals and rare metals. China's own trade minister openly stated the goal was to end western manufacturing to create a dependency for political power.
Man you're fucking ignorant.
He will never stop. And America is crippled as long as there are million of Marxist morons like him.
Time to clean house.
Apparently you're not very smart.
You hallucinated meaning in the post you are responding to and apparently don't understand what soft power is.
You should probably educate yourself.
https://politicaldictionary.com/words/soft-power/
It's also the same "It's not a slippery slope! It's a considerable declension which I'm lubricating!" stupidity.
Appeasing people isn't soft power. It's literally the opposite of power. Shooting people and blowing things up is hard power. Agreeing not to blow things up, horse trading on what things to share and what to keep for yourself... those are exercises in soft power.
Hey retarded faggot cunt, it’s making us stronger. Your just can’t u detest and that because you’re a degenerate Marxist surrender monkey and a total pussy.
M’kay bitch?
Erode power by stopping other countries from taking advantage of a do nothing America? By not funding them blindly?
Work through it buddy.
No one is taking advantage of us. How in the world can you believe such ignorant things?
It isn’t being “taken advantage of” when American companies produce things cheaper elsewhere and bring them into the country. It creates jobs for the American company (the vast majority of non-factory jobs being in America) and delivers less expensive products to Americans.
So American companies benefit, American consumers benefit, and American workers (except factory workers) benefit.
How is that being “taken advantage of”? Americans win in almost all aspects of the deal.
Can you even tie your own shoes Nelson?
You will sit here and decry US tariffs on china and in the same breath claim China tariffs on us goods is no big deal. Then there is the stolen IP and IRAD. Openly done so. Selling substandard metals, drugs, and other goods. Buying US land while buying land in China is disallowed. Putting communication devices to take over IT systems in their routers and now even panels.
And then you again say some retarded bullshit about benefits.
Since the 70s the share of GDP to the medium to lower middle class has gone from roughly 70% to 20%. Welfare has exploded. American workers training up their replacements. Company IRAD stolen. Such a benefit.
Meanwhile supply chains are at risk, see titanium issues from China with airliners.
And as for cost? Costs a loss less to steal stolen tech. Costs less to sell defective products. The consumer saves 30% to buy shit that breaks in half the time. Do the math retard.
Everything you say is without any thought at all.
Even the estimates for yearly stolen IP is 10x greater than the new tariffs lol.
And finally the most ironic part is you demand heavy taxes and regulations on domestic suppliers while saying china's slave labor is a okay. You're literally arguing for even a regulatory advantage lol.
Putting on my Freud cap I would say anyone that uses the phrase “soft power” is suffering from Ding Dong Don’t Work Syndrome! 😉
Taxes on foreign imports is WAR! /s
Taxing domestic products is A-Okay the bomb! /s
Gosh. Reason is getting tiresome old on FOREIGNERS FIRST repetition!
Remember when you supported invading Iraq?? That was weird, right?
""High tariff rates on south east Asian countries, for example, will exacerbate the drift of those countries towards the Chinese sphere of influence that has been happening in the wake of trade uncertainty since the first Trump administration."
LOLWUT
Are ye PROUD of being stupid, or twat? Can ye READ and CUMPREHEND?
Twat cums around, goes around. When ye treat everyone around ye like the asshole that ye are, they eventually finger shit out, and treat ye likewise. Look at twat happened to NAZI Germany, for just ONE example. Emperor Xi didn't start an unprovoked trade war... Emperor TrumpfenFarter-Fuhrer started an unprovoked trade war!
Other nations will bypass us, shit on our dollar, and sell USA Government Almighty debts, whose empty promises they hold. We treat them like shit, they treat us like shit! They will trade with, and be buddy-buddy, with China, etc., instead. With people who actually BELIEVE in free trade, and support the same!
Moronic stupid self-righteous power pigs like YOU can look in the mirror and blame yourselves (for the demise of the USA, economic and otherwise), if ye EVER develop a modicum of honesty!
Are ye PROUD of being stupid
In my experience "LOLWUT" translates to "I'm too doopid to understand what you're saying, so I'm going to point and laugh at you."
"In my experience"
And what a vast and comprehensive experience it is.
If anyone has had more "Lolwut" responses to his absolutely retarded posts than Sarcasmic, they are probably serious Guinness Book of World Records candidates.
Typical True Tribalism!!! If we ALL (ALL of us GOOD monkeys, dogs, apes, crows, etc., belonging to the One True Tribe) point and laugh at the ones who might MAKE US LOOK BAD for our doopid Tribalism, by using facts and logic... Then we can prove them WRONG merely by pointing and laughing!
Tribalism was a necessary stage in biological and then cultural evolution. Shit is SNOT the way towards a better place and time from here, nor has shit been the route towards a better place, for thousands or perhaps tens of thousands of years now! Wise people have known this for a LONG time!
We know your tribe eats pieces of shit for breakfast.
wow the projection
Projection drips off a Sarcasmic comment like sweat off Jeffy after he walks 50 feet on a 75 degree day to his drum of Ben & Jerry’s.
Right, no other countries had any tariffs on US goods.
wow you really are stupid and low IQ.
Right, the WISE way to RICHES is to TAX (tariff) Americans MORE!!!
And if other nations out-cumpete us in cutting-off-your-nose-to-spite-your-face cuntests... WE MUST FOLLOW LIKEWISE!!! OFF with our noses!!! He who has the highest taxes and the fewest noses... WINS!!!
wow you really are stupid and low IQ, Slur Dips-and-Sips-a-Lotta Brain-Damaging Drain-o of the Brain-NO!!!
No one has said there were no tariffs. That isn’t the point, nor does free trade require zero tariffs.
The problem is that Trump’s stated goals and the strategy he’s pursuing are mutually exclusive. You can’t get there from here. Even when he claims he forced a “deal”, it ends with higher tariffs than before his “deal”.
Tariffs that other countries put on imports add cost to their companies and citizens. That has zero cost effect on Americans, or American companies, since they are taking things out of those countries.
We need to worry about whether or not what we do benefits us, as Americans. Placing tariffs on imports hurt American companies and American consumers. Whether or not other countries choose to hurt their own citizens is completely irrelevant and unconnected to whether or not we should hurt our own citizens.
“Tariffs that other countries put on imports add cost to their companies and citizens. That has zero cost effect on Americans, or American companies, since they are taking things out of those countries.”
You’re so goddamn stupid. It puts American exporters at a huge disadvantage or even locks them out of foreign markets, but you can’t see past your perceived need to buy cheap shot from Red China.
https://reason.com/2020/01/22/trump-campaigned-on-saving-factory-jobs-but-u-s-manufacturing-just-went-through-a-year-long-recession/
Clear-cut case below, showing the UTTER FAILURE of protectionism in general, and Trumpist protectionism specifically:
Meanwhile in the real world…
https://reason.com/2019/04/22/trumps-washing-machine-tariffs-cleaned-out-consumers/
Trump’s Washing Machine Tariffs Cleaned Out Consumers
A new report finds the tariffs raised $82 million for the U.S. Treasury but ended up increasing costs for consumers by about $1.2 billion.
PROTECTIONISM DOESN’T WORK!!! DUH!!!
Protect American washing-machine makers from Chinese competition? The FIRST thing that American washing-machine makers do, is jack UP their prices… AND the prices of dryers to boot, too! To SOAK the hell out of all of us consumers!!!
From the above-linked Reason article about washing machines…
“All told, those tariffs raised about $82 million for the U.S. Treasury but ended up increasing costs for consumers by about $1.2 billion during 2018 … (deleted). Although the trade policy did cause some manufacturers to shift production from overseas to the United States in an effort to avoid the new tariffs, the 1,800 jobs created by Trump’s washing machine tariffs cost consumers an estimated $820,000 per job.”
Summary: Nickels and dimes to the USA treasury; boatloads of pain for consumers. USA jobs created? Yes, at GREAT expense! Putting these 1.8 K workers on a super-generous welfare program would have been WAY better for all the rest of us! Plus, you know the WORKERS don’t make super-huge bucks (no $820,000 per job for THEM); the goodies flow to the EXECUTIVES at the top of the washing-machine companies! The same ones who play golf with The Donald, and join him for gang-banging Spermy Daniels! Essentially at our expense!
We all miss the days of the keen mind and sharp intellect of joe Biden.
"Where's Jackie?"
“Ice qweem!”
We all miss the days of the keen fascism of Shitler (PLUS the COOL uniforms, insignia, and armbands!), and so we erected Der Dear TrumpfenFarter-Fuhrer!!!
https://www.salon.com/2021/04/11/trumps-big-lie-and-hitlers-is-this-how-americas-slide-into-totalitarianism-begins/
Trump’s Big Lie and Hitler’s: Is this how America’s slide into totalitarianism begins?
The above is mostly strictly factual, with very little editorializing. When I post it, the FACTS never get refuted… I only get called names. But what do you expect from morally, ethically, spiritually, and intellectually bankrupt Trumpturds?
Totalitarians want to turn the GOP into GOD (Grand Old Dicktatorshit).
Unread
Hey Ye of the Tiny Dick and Smaller So-Called "Brain"...
Smart economists have been telling us for a long time now, that “unilateral trade surrender” (no tariffs imposed even when the “enemy” does so) is a VERY smart idea! Butt tribalism and revenge-driven thinking keeps on “giving” us protectionism, which doesn’t work. WHY is this SOOOO hard to overcome? WHY won’t voters accept “trade surrender”? … Simply because they believe in “Speak loudly and carry a tiny dick.”!!!
In lieu of a Roundup today...
Corruption in Paradise.
https://realclearwire.com/articles/2025/05/21/paradise_lost_jeffrey_epsteins_legacy_still_clouds_the_us_virgin_islands_1111523.html
I've yet to see anyone attempt to explain how exactly Epstein became a billionaire. Doesn't appear he ever operated a legitimate business.
Kash and Bongino said Epstein committed suicide! Don’t worry about the fact we know Bush groped young girls and his two sons controlled both federal and state prosecutors! Nothing to see here!!
“Soft power” was grandpa’s nickname in the nursing home.
Well at least Boehm is now admitting Trump's tariffs are part of a trade war strategy to eliminate all the international tariffs that have been placed against US industry since forever, and nobody bothered to do much about.
Small mercies I guess, even if he's mad about it.
And absolutely no enormous costs to speak of! Wonderful!! I, too, take all of my economic advice from multimillionaires with orange hair rather than actual economists - they're all complainers and liars.
Experts!
Trust The (dismal) Science!
He can't even say which expert.
Out of all the idiots trying to use an appeal to authority, those appealing to economists in general is my favorite.
There are multiple schools of economists. They debate. They argue. They disagree with each other. Yet idiots like above pretend there is a single school and single set of ideas.
And economics is a soft science, not a hard science. In fact it probably fails more than even climate predictions. A science that makes none of them rich from applying their knowledge, but for explaining why their predictions are wrong.
Any time I see someone appeal to economists in general without explicitly saying what argument they are appealing to, I know they are an idiot.
Can you give me a reason to trust economists?
Because they are a SHITLOAD smarter and more well-informed than Der Dear Orange Leader AKA Der TrumpfenFarter-Fuhrer? Ye need a BETTER reason than THAT?
Well OK then, because they are SNOT so udderly STUPID ass to tell us that tariff-taxes will make us all RICH!!!!
https://reason.com/2025/04/30/trumps-tariffs-usurp-the-legislatures-tax-power/?comments=true#comment-11025883
Just go right ahead and say it out loud... Trump has become a Dicktator-Emperor! None shall pass! (Except the Flatulent Wonder Child, Der TrumpfenFARTER-Fuhrer, may pass ANY tax, law, tariff, or intestinal by-product gasses, at swill!!! Fart at swill, Mr. Dicktator-Emperor-TrumpfenFARTER-Fuhrer!!!)
https://www.axios.com/2025/04/29/prri-poll-most-americans-trump-dangerous-dictator
Exclusive: Most Americans see Trump as "dangerous dictator," poll says
Also... https://www.prri.org/press-release/new-survey-majority-of-americans-agree-that-president-trump-is-a-dangerous-dictator-whose-power-should-be-limited/
Your handle is a lie.
He is impressively retarded
"I, too, take all of my economic advice from multimillionaires with orange hair rather than actual economists"
It would be smarter to take your economic advice from an orangutang in the zoo with orange hair than actual economists.
Explain to me again why spending six to twelve years listening to barking-mad Marxists qualifies you to be an expert on economics, but working your way up from a couple of million to being a multi-billion dollar real estate mogul doesn't.
You guy's really put zero effort into thinking about the received wisdom MSNBC feeds you, huh?
Wars are expensive. Suck it up or move to Canada
Please no.
Bruh, you need to move out of the maple gulag and come down here for gunz and shitty beer.
He should. And escape the Bolshevist idiots running his country. I still can’t believe Poilievre blew it.
He should take up residence in Haiti instead.
Economists agree that Keynesian economics and MMT will totally work THIS time!
Not really. There are economists and there are people who use "economic" arguments to justify what politicians want to do. The former actually study the subject and work forward from principles. The latter start with policies and work backwards to create justifications. Paul Krugman once was the former and became the latter. Keynes is the poster boy for the latter. As far as the former goes, 1500 or so signed a letter declaring Trump's policies to be, how should I put it, the height of foolishness.
Lol. Your understanding of what economics is is fucking hilarious. You think it is a science, but then declare it is a set of principles. So is it science or politics dumdum?
Can you cite these costs. Hey. Didn't you also demand the tax cuts be ended? Despite that cost being twice that of tariffs?
Which actual economists? The ones on MSNBC who have seen every prediction fail?
Well at least Boehm is now admitting Trump's tariffs are part of a trade war....
Yeah
...strategy to eliminate all the international tariffs....
HahahahahHaHaHahaha...good one.
“ Well at least Boehm is now admitting Trump's tariffs are part of a trade war strategy to eliminate all the international tariffs that have been placed against US industry since forever”
Except it isn’t. Look at the “deal” with the UK, where tariffs on their products rose from 3.5% to 10%. That’s an added 7% that American companies and consumers will end up paying.
Whether or not other countries have tariffs is irrelevant to Americans. We don’t pay for them. We pay for our tariffs on imports, though, and that tripled when Trump made his wonderful “deal”. Sure, it screwed Americans, but that’s on-brand.
Imagine a country where the entire chattering class has become demented with a certain syndrome, causing a fixation on any and all trivia which might happen from an individual's actions and what that might cause...
Oh, wait!
Stuff your TDS up your ass Boehm, and then fuck off and die a painful, slow death
Thank you for providing us with such intelligent, measured and direct commentary. You've proven that any and all debate in these matters can only be the product of lying, TDS-addled pieces of horsefly shit. The world owes you a debt of gratitude, comrade.
Average dude dumber than rocks: You're welcome.
You might think you're being sarcastic, but you actually aren't.
Sevo's commentary is the commentary you deserve.
Except when my response is not directed to TDS-addled shitpiles. Then, it's far out of his league.
You’re not a quarter as smart as you think you are.
Generally when people have to declare themselves smart, they are not.
Him, sarc, stg, shrike. All publicly demand they are intelligent.
"World Famous" burgers? Why would you bother to make the claim? Everyone would already know.
"(Who's Smarter Than You)"? You already lost, TDS-addled steaming pile of lefty shit
Who gives a fuck?
Who needs soft power when you have F-15’s and nuclear bombs?
/joe Biden
Biden’s Brian is soft, and he had power.
It seems to me that all of this geopolitical soft power has mostly allowed the federal government to offshore our debt and inflation so the money printer can run unabated. Maybe that's a hidden consequence that Eric didn't notice.
It seems to me that all of this geopolitical soft power has mostly allowed the federal government to offshore our debt and inflation so the money printer can run unabated.
+10
We can agree that we shouldn't be wasting money to come up with trillion-dollar ways to kill cave dwellers, that said, open borders, free trade negotiations, and soft power seems to be at least correlatively related to the debt and *we* don't *need* more of either one.
"The administration's trade policy sends a message to the world: America is an unreliable ally that sees you only as a source of wealth; and if you don't have wealth, you'll pay for it,"
Close but not quite. Replace 'wealth' with 'money' and you'll be spot on.
A lot of this comes from a fundamental misunderstanding of the difference between wealth and money. They're not the same thing. Wealth is stuff. Money is a means to buy stuff. When we import lots of stuff in exchange for money (have a trade deficit), we become wealthy.
Let's suppose for a moment that money is in fact wealth, and we're better off selling stuff for money than receiving stuff for money. That would mean that if you sold everything you owned except for a suitcase and the clothes on your back, then stuffed the suitcase with all that money you got from selling your stuff, then you'd be rich! You could hang out on a park bench in stinky clothes with a suitcase full of money! Obviously that's stupid. It's also the mentality of those who want a trade surplus.
A garage full of broken plastic crap from China makes us wealthy!
Piles of plastic shit is the American dream!
And democrats are against plastic!
Try taking that trade one or two steps further on each side. The American who bought those goods now consumes those goods. They enjoy themselves temporarily but self-evidently after some period of time the good no longer has any value to them so they throw it into a landfill. It is obviously a bit different when the trade is for productive goods rather than consumption but wait just a second.
Because the foreigner who sold them those goods now has a lot of money. They use that money to buy stuff too. A trade/current account deficit is equal to a capital surplus. That's bookkeeping not rocket science. They buy an American house or American land or American stocks and bonds. As long as the American ensures permanent demand for that currency as a reserve currency rather than letting the trade deficit self-correct over time via either a declining currency or exports that then balance the imports.
Which is great for the owner of American assets (truly wealthy people) as those asset prices get bid up and the currency remains distortedly strong. Not so good for the schnook who works for a low-margin business (like American manufacturing) because as the American currency rises, those businesses get shut down and the jobs get outsourced to a lower cost labor country. But only because the American owner of those American business assets buys a politician who will eliminate future trade friction across borders (and court journalist-jesters who will wax poetic about the wonders of 'free trade').
We could go multiple steps further - but no point. You don't get it. You've demonized a 'trade surplus' and are just as fucking stupid as an orange clown and his minions who demonize a 'trade deficit'.
I understand that a 'trade deficit' is also a 'capital surplus'. I'm not some MAGA idiot who doesn't understand economics (triple redundancy I know). I just figured my comment was long enough already so I didn't go into it.
Lol. You dont understand shit.
He’s so stupid. Even when he’s only at his .18% functional BAC.
We could go multiple steps further - but no point. You don't get it. You've demonized a 'trade surplus' and are just as fucking stupid as an orange clown and his minions who demonize a 'trade deficit'.
So what is your preferred solution to this dilemma?
In economic theory, the winners compensate the losers. Otherwise, it ain't economics but simple utilitarian politics.
In practice that never works and especially not for the reserve currency issuer where Triffin's dilemma kicks in.
Triffin's solution for that was the same as Keynes (who also understood the dilemma because that's what had happened to Britain - who lost their industrial lead and instead became the world's financier - also in the more religious-than-economic 'free trade'). Have a separate currency as the global reserve currency for trade. But that still requires some form of cooperation (eg where countries act like a peloton in a bike race where they sometimes have to take the lead and provide liquidity). America is now Gollum. We still want the ring and no one else can have it.
So you don’t have an answer.
The answer is - Stop being Gollum. Give up the ring.
Thats nonsensical bullshit. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
Giving up the ring means stop being the sole reserve currency. No more trade sanctions on places like Iran and Russia. No more interest rate subsidies to jack up house prices, raise homelessness, and incentivize govt debt. In exchange the economy gets more balanced - more Main St less Wall St and we no longer are the world cop in permawar. And we have to cooperate with other countries
Your choice but you can only choose either or not both.
Now fuck off asshole
Eat shit and die, asshole.
That's what JFucked delivers.
Have a separate currency as the global reserve currency for trade. But that still requires some form of cooperation (eg where countries act like a peloton in a bike race where they sometimes have to take the lead and provide liquidity).
Seems the best solution. Unfortunately it would require a level cooperation that is unlikely to ever occur voluntarily. Guess we'll see how long we can hold the ring.
… schnook who works for a low-margin business (like American manufacturing)
LOL I’ve been in American manufacturing my whole career, I can assure you it is not low margin.
The higher the barriers to entry the higher the margins. But every mom and pop manufacturer I have come across always had to import a very expensive machine from Europe.
to import a very expensive machine from Europe.
Can’t afford stuff like that on low margins.
Thanks for playing!
But every mom and pop manufacturer I have come across always had to import a very expensive machine from Europe.
I see a business opportunity.
A lot of people in the US buy machines that I have designed and have had built here in the U.S. Quite common especially for mom and pop operators.
Germany has a long history with Mittelstands. Japan too in a way though their comparative manufacturing advantage is a bit different. Those are the types of companies we might want to reestablish in the US.
eg - there is a Mittelstand that owns the global market in those metal clips and machines that close sausage packaging. It's a niche business not a mass production biz. Everyone who wants to create a homemade sausage biz has to buy that machine (and the clips which are the razor blade biz model). But there ain't enough biz in the world for two of them. So no IPO exit. No ability for private equity to asset strip ruins.
The US does everything top-down now and requires scale. The US is not going to compete with Mittelstands. Everything about the US is hostile to that.
You have? So you know that the normal margin for a foreign-made mass-produced product is much lower for the exact same American-produced product. Good to know.
Actually, punctuate after "ally" with a period.
DJT has taken a wrecking ball to 80 years of US leadership, and 35 years of US hegemony (which ain't a bad thing if you're lucky enough to be the central player - as we were until Jan 20, 2025). Things improved by evolution, trial and error, slow but generally improving. Wholesale destruction of the system will likely leave the PCR (likely) or EU (less likely) as the central figure in world politics and trade for some while to come.
There is no "trade war" you mindless bleating sheep.
Not as much as Biden did.
Or Disney. But we didn't see you whining about soft power when they were putting a chick in it and making it gay.
You mean it's ok because Democrats did it first? I never would have thought of it that way.
Isn’t that your usual troll?
“The debate over free trade should include more than the costs of Trump's tariffs versus the value of cheaper stuff.”
It should. Too bad you’ve spent the last three months only doing that.
It is true the most of the articles about his tariffs have been from the economic point of view, not the point of view of international politics.
However, this is not the first article warning that China can take advantage of Trump's trade policies to expand its sphere of influence, especially in Southeast Asia.
There have been plenty on the subject. Just not as many as the ones about economics.
Don't be a retarded Trump defender who says that articles that contradict the narrative don't exist. You're usually smarter and more honest than that.
You’re right, I should have said mostly instead of only.
Is... Reason saying the quiet part out loud?
YOu morons do not understand what power is
Power is getting others to do what you want
when you act like a trumpdouchebag, no one wants to do what you want
traitortrump is untrustworthy
he has no idea of the actual power of the office
Our country will be ignored for years in the future because of his actions
His actions of course being possible because you morons voted for him
What is the combined output of all the pieces of shit he worships?
North Korea
Russia
Turkey
Saudi Arabia
combined they are less than California
he wishes to shrink our economy and grow his bank account
Except that everyone is doing what Trump wants.
The direct cost of President Donald Trump's trade war will be borne by American consumers and businesses—of that, there should no longer be much debate.
And yet, there is. You just choose not to acknowledge it. That's a very blue state echo chamber thing.
Some are best counted under the Christmas tree
It's May, jackass. He hasn't even HAD a Christmas yet in his FAFO term.
America is an unreliable ally that sees you only as a source of wealth; and if you don't have wealth, you'll pay for it
I spotted it! I spotted the Marxism! (And it's lispy twink brother Globalism!)
Trump views trade as a zero-sum game in which one country wins and one country loses every time two individuals agree to exchange goods across national borders.
Are you retarded? The whole point of the tariffs is to restore the balance TO mutual benefit exchange. Not one-sided benefit exchange favorable to garbage nations, which is what the Democrats have utilized in order to economically cripple America. Hence why Trump is making all these trade deals that the tariffs have compelled other nations to come to the table to negotiate.
You look at any of those trade deals and tell me how it's one-sided or unfair to the garbage nations. The ONLY way you can possibly make that argument is by admitting "to each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
Go ahead and say it. Be honest for once, Eric.
American investment and purchasing power help build factories and lift people out of extreme poverty.
In America?
Take away the benefits of trade, and the rest fades too, warns Murray.
What is the benefit of trading with slavers, Eric?
Go ahead and say it. I don't think you have the guts.
I thought trade wars were themselves manifestations of soft power.
I'm just confused as to why libertarians would care about soft power. Why don't we just re-fund USAID so we can keep funding trans tv shows abroad, in the hopes that us spending money for them keeps them beholden to our interests?
If any country wants to bankrupt their own economy by not doing trade with us, let them. No one's forcing them to trade with us. But most countries aren't that insane, so they're lining up to deal with us. Which is a tacit admission on their part that (1) their economy needs us BAD, since we have the biggest market and more people with income, and (2) the tariff put on us is high and worth negotiating over.
This is the conceit of the foreign lobby libertarians - that America is some unwieldy giant that depends on the kindness and contribution from foreigners and immigrants. If the world wants to sell their stuff to us, send us their illegals, posit their opinions on our politics, or just tells us to "leave us alone", we have to abide by their wishes like a loyal isolationist friend. But we can't ever demand that they lower tariff on our exports or contribute more to their defense because "oh no, friends don't do that"
What BS. They need us way more than we need them. Trump is taking bold (or rash) initiative because he knows he holds all the cards. He's not going to twiddle his thumb, waiting for no one to be offended. The world leaders have to take him seriously because they know his threat to slap 150% tariff on imports isn't some idle threat. He'll do it. If Trump mandated 50 hours of community service for people to be eligible for welfare, people will do 50 hours of community service. Or they'll just find jobs.
You can get cheap stuff AND lower tariffs on our exports. Trump could do that. So why don't you wait out some temp pain and see what he does? Why can't China flood our market with cheap stuff AND lower tariffs on our exports and respect our IPs? If we slashed medicare by 50% and people cry out, what would you say? "We have to endure some short lived pains for the greater good"? Imagine that.