The Worst Parts of Trump's First 100 Days Involved Ignoring Libertarian Principles
Trade and immigration are areas where Trump operates most like a criminal autocrat.

Before the 2024 election, I wrote about the perplexing phenomenon of libertarians who enthusiastically supported Donald Trump for president, given his anti-libertarian and authoritarian temperament, his being "fanatically against free trade," and pushing a "short-term promise to assault and kidnap and ship out millions of residents who have harmed no one's life or property, and in doing so destroy huge chunks of America's productive economy, disrupting the lives of the other millions of legal citizens who hire them, work for them, depend on their services, or rent and sell to them."
How Trump's administration has misgoverned in its first 100 days, with his most destructive abuses arising from his rejection of core libertarian principles about trade policy and immigration, the movement of goods and people across arbitrary government barriers, demonstrates why trying to supposedly balance those ferociously anti-libertarian tendencies with his acceptably libertarian ones (a stated commitment to shrinking size and cost of government, through Elon Musk's efforts at the Department of Government Efficiency, have delivered less than promised, are rife with reporting errors, and seem to be aimed not at making government any more sensible or useful so much as scoring institutional points against the administration's perceived leftist enemies) leads to accepting near complete collapse of any meaningful distinctions between the U.S. government and the worst economically interventionist and authoritarian tyrannies.
Trump's rejection of libertarian verities, particularly as set forth in the works of the great classical liberal economist and libertarian movement founding father Ludwig von Mises, has caused severe and likely lasting damage to the U.S. economy and is causing cruelly destructive harm to many humans who have caused no harms that a libertarian should recognize as harms.
Trump the Tariff Man
As Ludwig von Mises put it in his exposition of his political philosophy, Liberalism: In the Classical Tradition, "The theoretical demonstration of the consequences of the protective tariff and of free trade is the keystone of classical economics. It is so clear, so obvious, so indisputable, that its opponents were unable to advance any arguments against it that could not be immediately refuted as completely mistaken and absurd….The outcome of protectionism is…always a reduction in the productivity of human labor" and thus a reduction in human prosperity.
It's very on-brand for Trump to seem utterly ignorant of this and pursue higher and wider tariffs, for a whipsawing variety of reasons, most of which seem reducible to an ignorant chip on his shoulder, leading him to believe everyone else is ripping him/America off in some ill-defined way by selling and buying goods from us (yes, sometimes through tariff barriers, which are bad for them and us, just as ours are bad for us and them).
Trump's wide-ranging tariff moves, though how they will end up specifically applied moving forward is still uncertain (which is a big part of the problem), are, predictably, crippling small businesses, tanking stock markets, influencing looming supply chain disruptions and goods shortages as imports might fall by as much as 20 percent, and causing even big-business donors to the GOP to note with alarm that Trump's moves may have made America, not closer to Great Again, but "20 percent poorer" with its effect on costs to American consumers and businesses. And no, there's no countervailing bright side in sight (unless Trump just backs down on the whole thing and declares victory after getting some tariffs of other countries lowered somewhere).
Bad policies have bad aftereffects; his moves predictably generated announcements of planned tit-for-tat moves from trading partners, harming at the same time their own consumers and the U.S. businesses who want to sell to them and generally reducing worldwide prosperity. Food, implements we use to cook food, clothing, electronics, cars, and car parts are all apt to get much more expensive for Americans unless Trump gets us decisively off his maddeningly erratic tariff wheel of misfortune. As Eric Boehm reported this month at Reason, manufacturers surveyed by the New York Federal Reserve "expect to see fewer orders, longer delivery times, declining inventories, and lower levels of employment. About the only lines in the survey that are pointed upward are the expectations about prices."
Some companies will just avoid selling in the U.S. market entirely. And, predictably, creating a system such as variable tariffs with huge advantages to some and disadvantages to others, all operating at the whim of one mad monarch, likely illegally in violation of Congress' responsibility over tariffs, is building a lot of new swampland in D.C. as businesses and industries vie for influence to save themselves from, or harm competitors with, Trump's trade damage.
Nor is there any reason to believe in the short or even long term that the panicked throwing of tariffs against the wall to see if they will stick will achieve an alleged goal of making well-paying manufacturing jobs a near-dominant part of the American economy again (as steel workers here are already being laid off for lack of sufficient demand and actual existing domestic manufacturers are hobbled near to death by Trump's feckless tariffing). Regardless, the administration crows about making life harder and more expensive for all Americans for some phantom future benefit.
Trump's understanding of what he's even doing is deficient, including thinking his tariffs will be taxing and thus raising the price of the illegal fentanyl he fantasizes is flooding the United States from the north,
As Mises often emphasized, one dumb intervention leads to another, including plans for more federal aid to farmers whose ability to sell overseas will be harmed by predictable tariff retaliations, and more menacing aftereffects as Trump thuggishly tried to strong-arm American automakers into not raising prices in his new tariff regime (even as he makes their parts more expensive).
A core libertarian insight is that the values, abilities, and desires of others—their supply and their demand, in economics lingo—are most fully and coherently expressed in a world where the violent barriers (and yes, a tariff is a tax which is a violent barrier) to other people making the choices they see best fit are minimized or eliminated. This principle has baked into it awareness of the bad outcomes Trump is seeing from his tariff-y flailing: intelligent plans impossible to make, costs rising, and opportunities for humans to better circumstances for others even as they better their own made more difficult or destroyed.
Trump's Anti-Immigration Mania
Trump's legally indefensible summoning of the 1798 Alien Enemies Act has generated headline after headline of people denied their chance for fair legal hearings, the administration defying court orders to stop and insisting they'll continue to do so, all allegedly justified by vague assertions of "national security."
Frequently there's no documented proof and denials from family that the people being shipped to a cruelly oppressive Salvadoran prison, Centro de Confinamiento del Terrorismo, from which no one is reported to ever have been released, are the criminal Venezuelan gang members the administration assures us they are. (One witness on one of the flights to El Salvador reports men being coerced to sign declarations they were Tren de Aragua.) People are being kidnapped and imprisoned, with having tattoos often the beginning of their detention and interrogation in torturous circumstances in El Salvador. This includes Frengel Reyes Mota (who was shipped off just before a hearing in which he might have been able to prove his right not to be locked away forever) and Kilmar Abrego Garcia (who the feds admitted was shipped off by mistake but refuse to do anything even in the face of multiple court orders to get him out of Salvadoran lockup). Trump insists he wants to start doing the same to citizens as well—because if he can get away with the clever notion that once they are in Salvadoran custody U.S. courts and rights are out of play, why not try to solve all his perceived crime problems that way?
Even many residents outside a paranoid fantasy penumbra of Venezuelan gangs/"invading armies" are being illegitimately messed with in the name of immigration control. We see teen German tourists arrested under unpleasant conditions and deported; American citizens stopped and cuffed; working green card holders with an American daughter waylaid at an airport and denied his medicine, leading to hospitalization; multiple wives or fiancées of American citizens with no criminal records being deported; a Georgia barber who came here as a toddler from Liberia detained for many months with no hearings over a burglary conviction the state had already pardoned him for; prosecutions for child sex abuse dropped against a company that will be helping the administration corral immigrant children; 2-year-old citizen children deported without procedure; an anti-Putin Russian biomedical researcher working in Boston who was denied reentry for having frog embryos for research on her person and has been detained for months; an H-1B visa-holding working medical educator and kidney specialist at Brown University summarily shipped off to Europe; a Canadian trying to enter with an already approved work visa instead being locked up in cruel conditions for over a month.
Yes, anti-Trump animus, as well as how much stress his own administration is putting on these punishing "accomplishments" against immigrants, is doubtless making immigration enforcement nightmare stories more widely reported than they were under previous administrations. This whataboutism doesn't change the fact that Trump's strongly anti-immigrant administration is doing all this awful stuff, and mostly asserting it need answer to neither courts nor the American people with specific information about what they are doing and why. Thus his administration is the one it's salient to excoriate now regardless of how much excoriation was or wasn't heaped on previous such crimes from earlier administrations.
Trump's anti-immigrant mania bleeds over into abuses of free speech in America, as we see immigrants such as Mahmoud Khalil being tossed into custody during a warrantless arrest essentially for disagreeing with U.S.-supported Israeli attacks on Gaza; "counterterrorism czar" Sebastian Gorka suggesting merely disagreeing with our current Gestapo-like shipping of unconvicted people to foreign torture chambers is itself a punishable crime for citizens; emails sent to noncitizen students, often based on reviewing their social media, advising them to leave after revoking their visas for opinions Trump doesn't like; and people being denied entry for having items on their phone indicating disagreement with the administration. This hostility to visitors has, predictably, led to an over 10 percent drop in tourist visits, and the loss of the income to American businesses that would have accompanied those visits.
Whether or not the victims of this tyranny are citizens, our government just should not have the power to punish or harm anyone merely based on their political beliefs. Trump's immigration mania has also led to intimidation of judges (via arrest) who are accused—lamely—of impeding deportation attempts, although she guided and released the immigrant in question into a public hallway with federal agents present.
As, per Mises, one illegitimate intervention creates the incentives for the next one, the attorney general believes per a March 14 memo that in pursuit of suspected Tren de Aragua members, residences and workplaces in which an agent has "reason to believe" such a person is present can be invaded without a warrant, despite the Fourth Amendment.
If Trump believes—and he does believe, as does his attorney general—that his gestapo has the legal right to kidnap someone and ship them out of the country and out of reach of courts with no hearing, no appeal, and no judicial review to investigate whether they are indeed in the class he says he's limiting this power to, that means he claims he has the power to do that to anyone. That's the purest and most sinister tyranny imaginable—linked directly to his 180-degree turn from core libertarian principles.
As with trade, what's at stake is not merely an academic philosophical concern, the "violation of libertarian principles." What it means to violate libertarian principle is to commit outrages like above—to claim the right to take human beings' bodies and send them somewhere they don't choose to be, whether a Salvadoran gulag or just a country where they are threatened or have no human connections. So it is not surprising that the actions Trump has taken that have caused the most damage to prosperity and people's ability to make a living peacefully satisfying other humans' needs, or caused the most physical misery to people not proven to have committed any actual crime against person or property justifying it, are the ones most directly opposed to libertarian principle.
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You can either have a welfare state or a very loose immigration policy but you can't have both.
What about allowing anyone who wants to work into the country and making them ineligible for welfare, or is that not allowed?
If that's not allowed then the people who claim the problem is welfare are lying.
I didnt say anyone, I said "loose immigration policy"
Back when they used to bar you from immigrating for being a communist they had it right.
Why on earth would we want to import millions of communists into our non-communist country?
What are they going to do?
Be fucking communists, support communist policies, and vote for communism.
Right up your alley.
It’s not communism if you don’t call it that!
Immigrants can't vote you dumbass liar.
Yet we keep finding ones that do.
And we keep seeing democrats utilize them to get extra reps and presidential electors.
So again. Fuck off.
Sarc lives in magical world of his own creation.
Wrong: https://www.sf.gov/non-citizen-voting-rights-local-board-education-elections
Holy shit you really are a moron. I thought the others were just being harsh on you for being a shitlib normie but I guess not.
Now ask him his opinion on JesseAZ or me just for laughs.
So you've got nothing.
And you’re full of shit, as usual.
It’s just painful to listen to his bullshit daily. Just a drunk fucking Democrat retard that won’t shut up. I’m rooting for liver failure.
You’d think they could write a better sock than him.
You know, if it's unpleasant for you, you could just not read his comments and ignore/block them and then the comments wouldn't be all shitted up with these stupid insult fests every damn day.
gotta agree with you! he causes waaaay too much thread pollution
-why let him get to you so often?
Dumbest question ever asked on this website.
Consider the source.
Hard truth for libertarians: the overwhelming majority of humans reject freedom. Therefore immigration should reflect that.
Even legal immigrants with permanent resident visas are ineligible for most government benefit programs. Yes, the people who claim the problem is welfare ARE lying.
BTW Mexico has free universal healthcare.
Wow, free healthcare? Who pays the doctors?
Then why do they ever leave?
"conquer and consume" process then move onto the next property to "conquer and consume".
It's quite obvious what the left does for a living.
They ate all the integrity of Mexico and now it's time to move-on and EAT their neighbors greener pasture.
That’s a lot of bullshit packed into one tiny post.
Charlie's doing his part to fight shrinkflation.
Lol
He’s just puking up MSNBC, and Media Matters talking points.
This remains false no matter how many times you say it.
https://cis.org/Report/Welfare-Use-Immigrants-and-USBorn
https://cis.org/Report/Welfare-Use-Legal-and-Illegal-Immigrant-Households
It won’t stop him. He will keep lying.
CIS, founded by white nationalist and anti-immigration activist John Tanton.
It is to my greatest amuesement when inviable, impotent, outcompeted right-wing rejects suffer fatal blows to their narratives only because someone possesses the ability to conduct a most cursory, 30 second google search.
We know your options - socially, economically and sexually - are severly limited. You have no future. Your ineptitude and powerless, seething incompetence is all we need to consider to make this judgment.
Carry on.
"Since I can't find any persuadable counter-evidence .... It's JUST RACIST! (i.e. white nationalist)", screams the leftarded.
*persuasive
Instead of adapting mommys meth habit, right-wingers would have been well-advised to pursue an education, which would have involved developing the critical thinking required to evaluate the credibility of "studies" and websites hosted under .org domains.
Like an ape hurling feces, if that's all you got, you lead with it.
We all know facts destructive to Marxist narratives are racist. That's all the clown has.
BTW charliehall.
Is.
Full.
Of.
Shit.
Fuck off and die, asshole.
Fine. Get rid of welfare first. Make sponsors responsible for their costs.
Until then. No.
But that's not what you advocate for. You want to keep the borders open whole the welfare spigot is still running. So fuck off.
The 'appeal to welfare' is a red herring. As your comment later on reveals, it's not that migrants are possibly receiving welfare, it is that they are the wrong type of people, like communists, and because they are the wrong type of people, that is why they take welfare.
It is based on your perception of their moral standing, not whether or not they take welfare.
No, dipshit, it's that they're coming here illegally and have no desire to assimilate.
OK Brian, which is more libertarian, Trump or Biden?
Which smells worse, a giant douche or a turd sandwich?
The difference between the two pairs is that most of us don't have to choose from your two choices, but US elections do force the winner on everybody, and yes, elections have unavoidable consequences.
Those are not "my" choices.
Those are the choices of the American voters (with a little help from a few outsiders).
Those are the choices that the two biggest corrupt corporations in the country gave us. As George Carlin said, "Garbage in, Garbage out. This country was bought and sold long ago."
You are a democrat that is blindly in thrall to elite Democrats.
You are their pet.
You.
Are.
Full.
Of.
Shit.
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
Which one's you, and which one's jeff?
I suspect he’s melted into the folds of Jeffy’s blubber. They have formed the.JeffSarc.
Imagine one of the creatures from John Carpenter’s “the thing”. But with two heads protruding. One raving drunkenly the other spouting so fast far left democrat nonsense.
I was thinking "Leviathan" the Alien ripoff with Peter Weller, but I guess that's better.
Giant douches have a purpose, if only a limited one. A turd sandwich isn't even a thing.
Biden proved that it is a thing.
That's not fair. Even a turd sandwich can board Airforce One without needing the big-boy stairs and five escorts.
Biden was much more of a vegetable sandwich.
I'm going to say turd sandwich. I'd much rather smell pussy than ass. In most cases.
For libertarians in swing states, if you felt the pressure to vote, the choice was between Trump and Kamala.
There is no reasonable libertarian view of that choice that lands on Kamala.
Too bad sarc and Reason writers don't understand that None Of The Above was not a choice at all, and Chase was neither a viable choice nor a libertarian choice.
At least those of us who refuse to choose the turd sandwich or giant douche have clear consciences.
Comprehension is hard when you’re a drunken idiot.
Great. Now tell us how clear your conscience is when the worst of two political candidates wins because "principled" voters refused to oppose the worse one.
Someone who lives in a vacuum inside a glass house is a damned fool to start throwing rocks.
What would Harris have done that would have been worse than creating a global recession while flouting the courts and the law? More DEI? Seriously. How could she have been worse?
Taxing unrealized income? The only difference between ds and rs this election is that Kamala was much less likely to follow through with her horrific ideas. Like him or hate him, Trump does seem to do what he says he will do, consequences be damned.
let us not forget price controls on food, opposition to school choice, opposition to requiring voter ID, support for CBDC (the greatest tool for tyranny ever devised), endless support of war in Ukraine, government control of free speech online.
let us not forget she supported firing everyone in a company of 50+ employees that didnt get the wuflu shot.
There are hundreds of side by sides you can do to compare Kamala and Trump if you prefer going towards more liberty versus AWAY from liberty, Trump was the clear choice. It wasn't even close. It's usually close. But this time it was not.
And how much of that do you really think would have gotten done? Biden pushed for many of those things for four years and nothing came of it.
It is amazing you imagine Trump building concentration camps, deporting citizens, causing global recessions... yet you demand nobody actually recognize what Kamala says she will do.
Dood. It was an election. No one's asking for hindsight. It was a pre-election choice based on pre-election information.
Dood, don't pretend like Trump didn't make his intentions very clear.
And the Dems made their plans clear from all they had been doing for four years.
So here’s sarc defending the 4 years of the Biden administration.
But don’t call him a democrat!
Taxing unrealized income?
I don't see how that could make it through the courts.
The only difference between ds and rs this election is that Kamala was much less likely to follow through with her horrific ideas.
What ideas?
Good point. I wasn't actually looking for horrific ideas. I was actually hoping for one good idea. One fucking idea that might actually improve this country. There was nothing from the red or blue teams. DOGE was the closest, but it was offset by all the trade war shit, whiny victimhood shit, and the fact that Trump is an asshole. The only candidate I could tolerate was Oliver. So I voted LIBERTARIAN again. Fuck both morally corrupt, intellectually bankrupt parties. They are the reason our government is irreparably broken. It's a race to bottom at this point /rant
Lol.
You were against doge and audits from day one. Who the fuck are you fooling?
Why does every democrat here think they are tricking people?
Then tally those differences and tell us! Don't just whine about Trump being the worst. If you don't show your work, it looks like you didn't do any work. What is this, 3rd grade again?
ah, and now we see the mask come off.
Did you not listen to any of her policy proposals or witness anything that happened in the last four years?
You honestly think her only libertarian drawback was more DEI?
Sarc is a LINO. He’s a Democrat who is libertarian in name only.
Did you not listen to any of her policy proposals or witness anything that happened in the last four years?
I did. And none of it was likely to ever happen. Especially with a Republican controlled Congress for the first two years.
Speaking of, why aren't you guys mad that Trump is doing everything by EO instead of taking advantage of the GOP majorities? Legislation isn't permanent, but it's a heck of a lot harder to undo than EOs.
This is like when you said Biden recognized the constitution despite trying to do loan forgiveness 4 different times, implementing government DEI, imported over 10M illegals...
You're a fucking idiot sarc.
How the fuck would you have known, before the election, that Kamala would win, but the Rs would take the Senate and keep the House? You didn't. So saying Kamala would have been better because she wouldn't have been able to implement her terrible vision since the Republicans would control Congress is just lying.
Remember when you told us you would vote for trump out of spite if the dems nominated Kamala?
We were already in a recession, the media just didn’t want to admit it because a Democrat occupied the White House. (I know, the definition of recession changed, just like the definition of inflation, so pretend I’m using the old ones whenever I discuss them.)
And if the campaign was anything to go by, they would have done their best to hide her absolute incompetency (much like they lied about Biden’s cognitive decline for four fucking years).
Sorry, there is no world in the multiverse where Harris was the better choice.
Can't take two god awful things and say one is better, because they're both awful. One might be less-terrible than the other, but that doesn't make it better.
If one thing is less terrible than the other, then that means it is objectively better, but it doesn’t necessarily mean it’s good. /pedant
Cyanide or arsenic. They both will kill you. Is one better than the other?
According to you last summer, trump was better, because you "hate cops so much". But that was when you were still safely expecting the dems to run Joe, before the switcheroo.
Unless I'm mistaken after watching way too many episodes of Forensic Files, cyanide would be better (less terrible). Cyanide will kill you much more quickly than the slower, more painful death from arsenic poisoning.
You're even defending Kamala on this thread under a false pretense shed get another done. After you defended Biden under the same false pretenses for years.
I know, the definition of recession changed, just like the definition of inflation, so pretend I’m using the old ones whenever I discuss them.
don't forget the definition of vaccine !
Of course. Oh and woman.
What global recession?
Wait. Forget you're a Democrat. You think unchecked government spending is growth.
Increase censorship. Increase taxes. Increase regulations. Traffic in more people that don’t agree with western values of liberty. Increase using federal agencies to persecute their political enemies. Attack 2A. Increase the likelihood of war with Russia.
Just off the top of my head.
SOUNDS like what canada just voted for.
You made your choice when you defend the state going after him, state removing him from ballots, and only criticize him and not the other dumdum.
Doherty has degenerated into Sullum.
When will Reason get more libertarian writers? Doherty, Sullum, et al are LEFT-libertarian, which is an oxymoron. And saddled with TDS.
I’m beginning to suspect Reason is just using AI to re-write the same shit repeatedly.
This attitude is really annoying and all too prevalent among the libertarian purists.
the perplexing phenomenon of libertarians who enthusiastically supported Donald Trump for president "Enthusiastically" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there.
I would have taken issue instead with the word "libertarians." There's no question these comments are filled with enthusiastic Trump supporters which I assume think they are libertarians. I can see a libertarian saying Trump is better than Kamala (but not vise-versa). I can see a swing state libertarian voting for Trump.
I cannot see a libertarian enthusiastically defending tariffs or Trump's expanding the presidential power for personal punishment of his enemies, bullying the GOP in congress to submit to his every policy (respect to Rand Paul and Thomas Massie for their principled resistance), sending people to foreign prisons and disregard for due process and judicial oversight.
Maybe I approach a libertarian purist though as I usually try to choose a side of an issue that is technically libertarian.
Another issue for me is disdain for the 2 party system. I'd rather throw my vote away on Chase than be part of the problem.
I agree that both "enthusiastically" and "libertarian" are at fault.
I despise the two party system too, but it's what we have, and while my single vote is extremely unlikely to change any election, especially living in California, I'm not going to pretend there was no practical difference between the candidates.
Aside from all that, the theme of this article is nonsense, that Trump's 100 days suck because they aren't libertarian. That's like saying the opening moves in a chess game sucked because they weren't checkers.
I cannot see a libertarian enthusiastically defending tariffs or Trump's expanding the presidential power for personal punishment of his enemies, bullying the GOP in congress to submit to his every policy (respect to Rand Paul and Thomas Massie for their principled resistance), sending people to foreign prisons and disregard for due process and judicial oversight.
Yup.
Another issue for me is disdain for the 2 party system. I'd rather throw my vote away on Chase than be part of the problem.
Same.
The irony is both you and qb do defend tariffs constantly by defending the status quo of last year. You demand no action to change tariffs, especially from foreign governments.
You demand no action to change tariffs, especially from foreign governments.
That's not correct. I just accept the historical truth that using tariffs to fight tariffs is more harmful than helpful. I'm fully in favor of other techniques like trade deals or negotiations.
Even unilateral zero tariffs would do more to lower trade barriers than arbitrary and capricious tariffs based on who pissed in Trump's coffee that morning.
But you didn't vote for chase.
Then I guess you don't remember Jim Lewis. He was the LP nominee for VP in 1984, and a contender for the presidential nomination in 1992. He was for tariffs because he considered them an elective tax — if you didn't buy those goods, you didn't pay — and a way to get foreigners to finance the US government.
Um, foreigners don't pay the tariffs, citizens do, as part of a price increase.
Tariffs have their place - part of a negotiation, to protect critical industries, or to keep certain forign products out - but Trump is using them too readily and changing gears too frequently for them to be effective. He should quickly make deals with all those 130 countries that said they would and move on.
Good article. To the point with examples. Well done. I'm sure it will generate lots and lots of hate from true libertarians who understand that liberty means tyranny.
Now try addressing the relative merits of the two candidates, and why suppporting the least worse of the two is more practical than pretending both are the worst.
Neither have any merits. None at all. Harris was an unknown. She didn't have any policies or ideology. Trump on the other hand is a strongman. A tyrant. He does whatever he wants, regardless of what the law, the courts, or the Constitution says, and that's less-bad than more DEI? I despise Democrats. But at this point I despise Trump and his defenders even more.
I gave Trump credit during his first term for not starting any new wars and for slowing the growth of the regulatory state. At this point I can't find anything to give him credit for. He's waging wars around the world, waging war at home, making temporary cuts in government using EOs, ignoring the law, ignoring the courts, ignoring Constitutional protections and limits on power, and he's doing it to the cheers of millions of people. That's just fucking scary.
He's waging wars around the world
Explain.
Neither have any merits. None at all. Harris was an unknown. She didn't have any policies or ideology. Trump on the other hand is a strongman. A tyrant. He does whatever he wants, regardless of what the law, the courts, or the Constitution says,
Truth
Yeap. Nothing negative happened under Biden.
You and sarc are dumbfucks.
At least with Trump you know who is actually in charge.
The other reason I thought Trump was a better choice is that something needs to change in our politics and he was the only one offering that. Now, maybe the change will suck. I think it's more likely to be a mixed bag. But the political establishments needed some shaking up and that is definitely happening. I wish the economic and trade policy was a little more freedom oriented and coherent. And that anyone actually meant to do anything about overall federal spending.
The change he's making to politics is not a good one. Those changes are to ignore elections if you don't like the results, ignore the law if you don't like it, ignore the courts if you don't like what they say, ignore the Constitution if you don't like what it says, and to do whatever you want because fuck you who's going to stop you. Trump defenders cheer when he does it, but they don't realize or care that Democrats are likely to do the same thing. Then what? Why bother to have elections, laws, courts or a Constitution if officials are praised when they ignore them?
I don't think "ignore elections" is the right way to characterize it. It's all rhetoric. So far, everyone has abided by the results of elections. I don't expect that to change. I'm not wild about Trumps talk about the 2020 election. But I also think there are problems with our elections that need to be addressed.
The more positive things I see are around exposing some of the crazy and corrupt stuff that goes on in government and continuing pushback against censorship and the regulatory state. Firing lots of useless people in the executive branch is also pretty nice.
I'm disappointed by a lot, but trying to maintain some optimism. It doesn't cost anything and no one cares what I think anyway.
no one cares what I think anyway
I take your opinions very seriously. I think you're the truest libertarian here...besides me, of course.
I have a lot of respect for Zeb.
Jokes on you, I’m the only libertarian. There was a sword fight and everything.
Wait, I may just be immortal.
So you’d rather have politics as usual, Sarc?
It is amazing you are so ignorant with what actually did happen under Biden as you claim Kamala would get nothing done. Then repeat the same maddow arguments about Trump.
How are you not a leftist?
Tyranny is not allowing infinity illiterates from foreign shitholes to move into your neighborhood.
As I said, it's not really about the welfare. It's about "those people".
And what is wrong with keeping out people who don't share American values, attitudes, culture, or heritage? And who indicate that they won't readily acclimate to the US?
Because freedom of movement and freedom of association are not collective rights, they are individual rights?
the worst part of T's second first 100 days was reading Reason's Haterade
Surely you no longer read this tripe?
Glance at the headline, check the 'author', and head to the comments like the other 98% of us.
sometimes I scan past the headline & tagline I guess "reading" takes it too far.
I was hopeful (naive?) Reason would be hopeful. Then I found out Reason is in bed with the Sorosi and so paid to not be hopeful.
It's got elecrolytes.
It's what Vance craves.
I like it.
That the first two paragraphs are actually two SENTENCES is a fucking editorial travesty.
In scrolling further it CONTINUES.
JFC this rag...
Holy fucking run-on sentences, you're right. How long has Doherty been a "journalist"?
Pretty sure he's never held a job, so that tells you something.
Man, good catch. I didn't believe it either, but "^F." proved it.
How long before Reason "articles" degenerate into SQRLSY style gibberish?
Sullum would like a word with you
Followed by Boehm.
I cannot understand why I'm somehow bigoted and evil for not wanting to live in Pakistan or Haiti and therefore not wanting to turn my neighborhood into a version of Pakistan or Haiti
"I cannot understand what is bigoted about judging everyone from certain foreign countries as being inferior to me"
You make judgements like that all the time, Jeffy.
the movement of goods and people across arbitrary government barriers
Hey man... I mean like, all I did was just like, walk across an invisible line... maaan.
TBF, Doherty has always struck me as being more of an ancap, so that line of thinking seems rational to his views.
Unfortunately anarcho-capitalism is as utopian in its views as anarcho-communism, and for much of the same reasons.
Marxism now advocates the same invisible lines. As a form of societal collapse and wealth redistribution. So is he ancap or marxist?
Libertarian Marxist.
Somehow, that sounds oxymoronic.
or just plain moronic
Because it is.
It's only rational in an ancap world. I'd love to live in such a world, but we don't, and that is the reality Doherty and Reason refuse to address. I still say —
Fire KMW.
Get out of DC.
Publish some libertarian content.
— but that doesn't mean pretending reality doesn't exist.
WORD!
Get out of DC and NYC. Maybe some diversity of habitation?
I agree on all points.
The problem with Doherty's (and Reason's) so-called an-cap proclivities is they feel dishonest or disingenuous.
It's a bit like "Don't let the enemy of the politically possible derail the utopian outcome that we may or may not achieve, but even if we achieve it it will be 50, 75, 100, 150 years out".
Pretend we lived in early 19th century America where chattel slavery was the law of the land. Slaves are your property and as such, you may dispose of them as you see fit. Anti-slavery factions want to not only stop slavery, but there are short term laws and outcomes they're fighting for that they might also achieve. One might be the banning of beating or executing your slaves for minor or major infractions. Both the abolition of slavery and the passing of this anti-cruelty law can be fought for at the same time.
The Reason-style an-cap who likely agrees that slavery should be abloshed, sees the imposition of the state interfering a property owners' right to dispose of his property as he sees fit as a contravention against an-cap principles... so he refuses to endorse such a law and instead says, "What we really should be doing is outlawing slavery".
The problem with that argument is that it's not logically, nor morally wrong, but it ignores the realities on the ground. The abolition of slavery could take 50, 75, 150 years to accomplish-- if it can be accomplished-- and we might even have to fight a bloody civil war to end it. But (again, pretend) there was a broad consensus on the passing of the anti-cruelty bill and could be passed in the next legislative session. Fighting that bill on the grounds that it represents a state interference in the right to dispose of your property makes me not take you particularly seriously.
Nothing in my comment suggests that Doherty (or anyone else at Reason) are nazis or support slavery or are terrible people. I feel like I need to say that due to the tendency for randos on the internet to read nuanced and layered commentary in one dimension. But... this is what Libertarianism Adapted for Modern Audiences has been doing over the last decade. When it's proven... repeatedly that an influx of millions of immigrants under legally dubious circumstances has a direct impact on state budgets and large numbers of them are in fact on welfare-- and provably so, the response is always, "Well, what we really should do is eliminate welfare". Sorry, but like the slavery equation, that's a 50, 75 or 100 year project, and that's if it's successful. If it's not successful, that runs that timeline out to infinity. Thrusting your fellow taxpayers into a state of perpetual enslavement to a non-contributary welfare system isn't just, or an-cap. It's just retarded.
As a counter to your pragmatism is the other pragmatism that instituting half-measures (or 1% measures) makes the evil seem more palatable and decreases the social urge to purge the evil.
Suppose laws were passed that required court approval for severely beating or killing a slave. Some slavers would use that as an excuse to show how humane slavery is, and a lot of fence-sitters would nod their heads wisely and tell the abolitionists how ungrateful they were for wanting to go further.
There's no way to judge beforehand which is better in any situation. Even now, with Trump's tariffs, we have a lot of gullible people saying Trump really does want zero tariffs and this is his way of finally getting there, rather than trade treaties and trade bodies taking their sweet sweet time making progress. They claim the best way is to make tariffs so horrendous that the world will finally wake up and go zero tariffs. They may even be right, but without running an experiment on an Earth doppelganger, we'll never know.
"...Suppose laws were passed that required court approval for severely beating or killing a slave. Some slavers would use that as an excuse to show how humane slavery is, and a lot of fence-sitters would nod their heads wisely and tell the abolitionists how ungrateful they were for wanting to go further..."
Suppose you quit dragging 'clever' strawmen along to support your "pure" idiocy.
I know your mommy said you were smart, but she lied.
Was there a point to that comment? Some goal, some intention? I'm not smart enough to understand such deep insight.
Woulda coulda shoulda. I don't believe that the 3/5ths clause in the constitution hurt the abolition movement, but maybe some historians disagree. I don't know, but what I do know is pretty much every functioning country in the world has borders and takes them seriously, and the more extensive their welfare systems, the more reluctant to just let anyone in without some kind of value test they become.
Advocating for one-way-and-one-way-only porous borders is the express-lane to insanity and I stand by it.
Reason's abject refusal to even acknowledge that there are downsides to open immigration makes me not take them seriously. If they could at least TRY to argue that the positives outweigh the negatives, that would be a better starting place, but their refusal to even acknowledge that negatives exist, while huge portions of the globe seem to agree that there are in fact downsides makes me write them off as crypto-libertarian-marxian-utopianists.
Yes, open borders vs open boarders. I believe that if government offered no welfare or assistance of any kind to immigrants, if criminal immigrants were jailed or deported, and if the government stopped flying in refugees who have zero interest in being here and hate the country, there would be no problems at all. Immigrants would depend on kith and kin who came before and they wouldn't put up with freeloaders, criminals, troublemakers, and other lazy riffraff who give them a bad name. That's pretty much what we had until WW I.
I believe that if government offered no welfare or assistance of any kind to immigrants, if criminal immigrants were jailed or deported, and if the government stopped flying in refugees who have zero interest in being here and hate the country, there would be no problems at all.
First there is a whole lot of crazy in this statement. But, even if all of your dependent claims are true, you're still wrong. The major objection to immigration is not based on welfare. It is based on the perceived moral standing of the immigrants. They are viewed as inferior and unworthy of being here. And because only inferior, unworthy people take welfare (in this view), that is just a sign of how inferior and unworthy they are.
Trump won on the issue of immigration not by pointing out how much money immigrants were costing taxpayers. He won by demagoguing the issue to death and scapegoating them as lazy bums, violent thugs, cat-eating weirdos, and even cannibals(!). The message is clear: they are bad people who don't belong here. THAT is the message that worked in the campaign. THAT is fundamentally the major MAGA argument against immigration. Not based on money.
You’ve articulated a lot of what I think quite well, so I don’t need to expound on it, and I think this drives at the heart of the rift we’ve seen develop over the last 10 years.
“Libertarianism Adapted for Modern Audiences”
That is fucking gold.
Okay, so based on your logic, tell me where the following argument fails:
"Look, ending the welfare state is a 50, 75, 100 year project, if successful, and a large part of the welfare state is the socialization of health care costs. And virtually every instance of gun violence includes the utilization of that welfare state to pay for the cost of treating those injuries, and most of those instances are not justifiable instances of self-defense. Therefore, in order to avoid perpetual enslavement of taxpayers to a retarded system, the state should limit individual gun ownership."
I'm not advocating for this view, I am asking why your logic does not also justify this argument.
Far out
Here's a clip that's just fucking scary. Elizabeth Warren knows more about the Constitution than Trump or any of his defenders.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/M5o6Nq6jEdA
Never in my life did I think she would be the rational person in the room. We've entered Bizzaroworld.
A clip saying that Congress has the power of the purse? How is this supposed to be worth anyone's time? No idea what issues they were even talking about and there's no "Trump or any of his defenders" in the clip.
Warren was a law professor, of course she knows the basics. The problem is her legal scholarship, way back before she went into politics, was downright dishonest political leftist bull shit. She is a liar and an opportunist using lies to advance her own interests and her leftist agenda. At no point does the "rational person in the room" enter the discussion.
What she said is the exact opposite of what Trump and his defenders say. They don't have to be in the clip to say it.
You, like Liz, thinks power of the purse means spending every appropriated cent, having no article 2 powers, and so on.
Amazingly you ignore she stated flatly Biden could forgive student loans.
You're quoting someone as fucking dishonest as you are.
Spiked, the British Libertarian publication unloads on Trans retardation.
Spiked, the ONLY libertarian publication.
WORD!
Immigration and trade are the two main things that got him elected.
*Trade and immigration are areas where Trump operates most like a criminal autocrat.*
So shutting down illegal immigration that was fostered by the ciminal autocrat Joe Biden makes Trump the dictator? Got it.
God help the first president who tries to unwind Trump's unilateral tariffs. Reason is gonna give him quite the tongue lashing.
"I'm just flabbergasted that people would be concerned over millions of unverified individuals entering their nation annually"
You know that "Am I out of Touch" seymour skinner meme? Yeah, that's Reason libertarians. If only 10,000 migrants entered South Korea every year, that entire country would be in crisis mode. If your house was on fire, you don't ask "Is it libertarian to take out this fire"
You can make the argument that Trump supports big government. But things like DEI betrays the foundational principle of libertarianism. It places immutable and irrelevant traits like race and gender over your personhood and robs you of your rights and autonomy. A nation with high tariffs can trudge along with a slow economy. A Marxist nation has nowhere to go but extinction.
Do you think that MAYBE Americans resent living in a two tier system, where someone like Maryland Man gets 16 years of consideration and a stay on deportation to his OWN country, whereas some American who didn't properly cut his lawn gets thousands of additional dollars of fine for every day he doesn't pay? Judges can order your guns to be confiscated via red flag laws, but they escort federally charged criminal out of the court in deference to due process?
Why did he Trump win? Would he have won in 2007? 1999? What changed? If you don't get it, we can't help you.
. If your house was on fire, you don't ask "Is it libertarian to take out this fire"
Peter Suderman: If you do take out the fire, what do you replace it with?
"Too bad sarc and Reason writers don't understand that None Of The Above was not a choice at all, and Chase was neither a viable choice nor a libertarian choice."
The jacket, like the other TDS-addled slimy piles of shit "editors" here, is much more interested in virtue-signaling than accomplishing anything at all.
BTW, Brian, when's the last time you held a job? You know, actually produced something (ANYTHING) of value?
Statistically everybody writes a bad column sometimes but this so silly.I listen to my neighbors and co-workers: Trade and immigration are what they most LOVE about what Trump is doing. Parents are thrilled that Tren de Aragua and MS-13 are getting the swift boot and no excpetions. As for trade they hated Obama and esp Clinton's hypocrisy. All that sweating to get your kids in school and here comes Biden to reward all the parents that did sht for their kids education.
Bet you don't have kids and that would explain your godawful aberrant views. NO,it isn't true that X good immigrants per Y druggies, terrorists, and plain old psych killers is a good deal. NOT ONE shoudl get in. NOT ONE
Well heck, if I would've known being a Libertarian required invasion by communist minds and communist trades being tax-exempt, I would've never wanted to be a Libertarian in the first place.
Heck. I was under the impression Libertarians were against an invasion of socialism/communism and wanting fiscal responsibility with tax-cuts and de-regulation instead of special favors (tax-exempt) for communist-nation traders.
Libertarian principles. Thanks, I needed the laugh. The only lubbertarian principle is, to quote HHGG, “If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.”
I see your study of libertarianism is limited to Parade Magazine and WaPo.
I didn't read a word of this article. With a headline that uses a term like "criminal autocrat", I presume this is just more MSM tripe.
Whover has bought off Reason to do hit pieces on Trump should be arrested for "criminal autocratic publishing". I'm pretty sure that's a real crime. If it isn't, arrest the SOB anyway. Who worries about actual laws anymore?