Biden's Race-Ending Debate Performance Was So Bad That It Eclipsed Trump's Flagrant Falsehoods
Voters should not dismiss the former president's utter disregard for the truth as a personal quirk or standard political practice.

President Joe Biden's performance in his June 27 debate with Donald Trump was so bad that it ultimately resulted in his withdrawal from the election. It was also so bad that it distracted attention from his opponent's flagrant prevarications. But Trump's longstanding tendency to make stuff up, to the point that you have to discount almost anything he says by at least 90 percent, should not be dismissed as a personal quirk or standard political practice.
While politicians commonly bend the truth, Trump routinely bends it to the breaking point, saying things that are not accurate by any stretch of the imagination. Reason's Nick Gillespie, in a piece arguing that Trump's speech at the Republican National Convention was politically canny, notes in passing "his inability to say two true statements consecutively." Americans have become so inured to Trump's habitual hyperbole that it may not make a difference in this election. But it really should, because it reflects not just an utter disregard for the facts but an arrogant assumption that voters don't care whether the nation's highest elected official even aspires to tell the truth.
During the debate, Trump alluded to his never-substantiated claim that the 2020 election was rigged, saying "the fraud and everything else was ridiculous." But even apart from his stolen-election fantasy, he said a bunch of things that were demonstrably false.
"We had the greatest economy in the history of our country," Trump declared at the very beginning of the debate. "We had never done so well."
Gross domestic product growth during Trump's four years in office averaged 2.3 percent. Even during the three pre-pandemic years, the average was a modest 2.5 percent. That's a bit higher than annual GDP growth under Barack Obama and George W. Bush, and it's significantly higher than the average rate under George H.W. Bush. But it is lower than the growth seen during the Clinton, Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy, and Eisenhower administrations.
"I gave you the largest tax cut in history," Trump also claimed. That is also inconsistent with the historical record.
According to the Tax Foundation, "the five largest tax reductions since 1940 are the Revenue Acts of 1945, 1948, and 1964; the Economic Recovery Tax Act of 1981; and the American Taxpayer Relief Act of 2012." Those cuts "reduced revenue by between 1.6 percent and 2.89 percent of GDP, on average." By comparison, the reduction achieved by the Trump-backed Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 amounted to 0.7 percent of GDP, placing it ninth on the Tax Foundation's list, a slot shared by two previous pieces of legislation.
"I also gave you the largest regulation cut in history," Trump averred. That claim likewise does not withstand scrutiny.
"Under my administration," Trump said at a July 2020 press conference, "we have removed nearly 25,000 pages of job-destroying regulations—more than any other president by far in the history of our country." According to a November 2020 report from the Penn Program on Regulation, that is "simply false."
At the end of 2019, the report notes, the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) ran to 185,984 pages—"actually a somewhat greater number of pages, not fewer, than when President Trump took office." While the number of CFR pages dipped by 0.5 percent from 2017 to 2018, "this tiny decrease was offset by comparably sized increases from 2016 to 2017 and then again from 2018 to 2019." And even that one-year drop was small compared to the 10 percent decreases seen in 1954, 1957, and 1964; the 5.3 percent reduction in 1985; and the 4.4 percent decline in 1996. In short, "President Trump's record does not even come close to previous years showing the largest drops."
Trump has variously claimed that his administration eliminated seven, "nearly eight", and 22 regulations for each one it issued. Taking the Trump administration's own classifications at face value, the Penn Program found, the ratio was more like 5 to 1. But even that calculation "overstates the Trump Administration's deregulatory accomplishments," the report says. "In terms of the significant actions that have substantial impacts on the lives of Americans, the number of deregulatory actions is at best very close to the number of regulatory actions and possibly significantly below that number."
When it comes to "the number of new rules issued," the report's authors concede, the Trump administration was less active than the Obama administration. During its first three years, the Trump administration issued "an annual average of 3,204 final rules," a 12 percent decrease from the first three years of the Obama administration, which "was itself a 12 percent decrease [from] the first three years of the George W. Bush Administration." Furthermore, Trump "issued 107 economically significant rules
during his first three years," while "the average for the first three years of the prior five
presidencies was 118 such rules." That difference, while a far cry from Trump's promise that he would eliminate 70 percent of federal regulations, is significant.
As usual, however, Trump cannot resist gilding the lily. He has claimed that he "launched the most dramatic regulatory relief campaign in American history by far" and asserted that his administration "eliminated more regulations in our first year than any administration has ever eliminated." As the Penn Program report notes, "little support exists" for such claims, since the Trump administration did not cut "the overall number of pages" in the CFR and "completed far more regulatory actions than deregulatory ones once the full data are examined." The report adds that "nothing the Trump Administration has done compares to the deregulation of the airlines, rail, and truck transportation that was executed by the Carter Administration in the late 1970s."
Trump is on firmer ground in claiming credit for appointing the Supreme Court justices who clinched a majority in favor of overturning Roe v. Wade. But even here, he rewrites history by wishing away the controversy surrounding that accomplishment. After Roe, Trump claimed during the debate, "everybody, without exception," thought abortion policy should be turned "back to the states." According to Trump, that included "every legal scholar throughout the world." He thus pretended that half a century of debate about the merits of Roe, which included "legal scholar[s]" on both sides, never happened.
Trump's criticism of Biden was also absurdly hyperbolic. "We had the safest border in history," he said. "Now we have the worst border in history….Because of his ridiculous, insane, and very stupid policies, people are coming in and they're killing our citizens at a level that we've never seen."
As Reason's Fiona Harrigan notes, there is little evidence to support Trump's claim of an unprecedented migrant crime wave. "Crime is actually down in the cities that received the most migrants as a result of Texas Gov. Greg Abbott's busing operations," she writes. "The partial crime data that exist for this year show consistent declines in major crimes in major cities," Cato Institute immigration expert David Bier told Harrigan. He added that "the most significant crime spike in recent years occurred in 2020—when illegal immigration was historically low until the end of the year."
So it went with other aspects of Biden's record. The sloppy withdrawal from Afghanistan was not just "a horrible embarrassment"; it was "the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country." Biden is not just a bad president; he is "the worst president…in the history of the country"—"the worst in history by far."
While these judgments are admittedly subjective, there is a lot of competition on both scores. Historians probably would place slavery, segregation, genocidal campaigns against Native Americans, the detention of Japanese Americans during World War II, the torching of the White House during the War of 1812, or the Vietnam War higher on the scale of national embarrassments than the withdrawal from Afghanistan, which at least put a stop to a disastrous intervention that (even according to Trump) should have ended much sooner. And leaving aside the question of where exactly Biden should rank on the list of worst presidents, we probably should leave some room for the likes of James Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, and (for libertarians especially) Woodrow Wilson.
According to several possibly premature and ideologically tinged assessments by historians and political scientists, Trump himself belongs at or near the bottom of presidential rankings. But according to unspecified "polling," Trump said, "they rate me one of the best."
As has always been the case with Trump, it is hard to say whether he actually believes the things he says. He is either reflexively dishonest, self-deceiving, or a little of both. None of these characterizations bodes well for a second Trump term.
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How do they compare to Biden's falsehoods during the debate that were SO bad, CNN actually had to fact check them?
"We had the greatest economy in the history of our country," Trump declared at the very beginning of the debate. "We had never done so well."
Ok, now that I'm reading, I honestly thought we'd get more "Trump said 'two plus two equals five' and so we asked Ketanji Brown Jackson if she could define what math was and she said she wasn't a biological mathemetician" or something. Not "Trump said the economy was bigly good, but GDP hockey stick graph didn't show a bigly good economy when compared to the 1849 boom."
Interesting that the fact check on that disproves it by using a gdp growth number that was inflated by massive government spending and yet refuses to comment on that
The explanation is Sullum.
This article was exactly as retarded as I expected it to be given the headline and the author.
While these judgments are admittedly subjective, there is a lot of competition on both scores.
Indeed.
TDS. Pure TDS.
I mean, Biden’s not even running anymore, so Biden’s lies at the debate no longer matter as far as the presidential campaign goes, but sure, it’s just “TDS” that Sullum didn’t boaf sidez’s the lies, Trump vs. the Non-Candidate.
Saying "both sides" is leftist. That would mean admitting that Trump told lies. Only a leftist would say he told lies. So blaming both sides is leftist.
Ya know, I'm wondering why Rick James doesn't boaf sidez his/her criticism of the left with an equivalent criticism of the right. Is it because of a derangement syndrome?
Also:
*IF* Trump told lies, it’s because he had no choice and he means well. And that's an IF.
*WHEN* anyone on the left tells lies, it’s because that person is a demon from the 9th circle of hell.
I mean, Biden’s not even running anymore, so Biden’s lies at the debate no longer matter as far as the presidential campaign goes
How about you and Sarckles lies?
Do you want to tell everyone here how foreign companies don’t use import brokers to get their product into the American market, and how the UN claiming that the US border is the most dangerous in the world for migrants doesn’t count because MAGA doesn’t like the UN?
Edit: Fucking piece of shit clown.
Here is the full, unedited, in-context statement from Trump on the subject of tariffs.
So, Trump said that the tariffs would force "them" to "pay us a lot of money". And, "them" clearly refers to "countries that have been ripping us off" (in Trump's opinion). But, ML wants you to believe that AKSHUALLY, "them" refers to "import brokers" employed by "foreign companies".
So, ML, why don't you convince us all that Trump was referring to "import brokers", and not "countries" *as he himself said*.
Again, here is Trump's full, unedited, in-context statement about the border.
He didn't say merely that the border was *a* dangerous place (an arguably true statement), he said that the border was the most dangerous place anywhere in the world (a deliberate lie).
And ML tried to argue that it wasn't a lie, by posting this list of cities ranked by the most dangerous in terms of murder rate:
https://reason.com/2024/07/12/ukrainian-president-putin/?comments=true#comment-10638021
Where is #1 on the list? About 700 miles from the border. In other words, NOWHERE NEAR THE BORDER.
What ML does, is he furiously does quick Google searching to try to defend Trump, frequently not even reading the own links that he cites, and in so doing reveals himself to be nothing but a shill.
Let me guess idiot Jeff? I have him muted.
Trump lies I'm sure.
Everyone on the democrat side lying that Biden is perfectly fine was ok. Biden lying constantly at the debate and everyone was ok.
Just all Truuuuump
NOW you suddenly freely admit Biden lies? Last time it took you all day.
I have always freely admitted Biden lies. Even during the debate, and for weeks afterwards when ML was also falsely accusing me of "defending Biden".
Bud, it took you all day to admit it was more than just a kindly old senile gentleman.
Now, do you freely admit that Trump lies? Did he lie during the debate?
Goddamn you’re boring.
Do you freely admit that you lie here every day?
Far as I've been able to tell since 2015, trump's hyperbole and nonsense isn't measurably worse in magnitude and frequency than the nonsense and propaganda coming from the anti-trump TDS camp (or its slightly less intensive but more widely accepted sister-ideology called "Blue-Anon" or "Blue MAGA").
Trump exaggerated the degree of economic growth which happened during his first three years on office. Biden pretended that he had a hand in the "creation" of millions of jobs which returned to existence when the Governors belonging to his party finally stopped forcing huge portions of the businesses in their states to remain closed more than 16 months into the "two weeks to flatten the curve"
Trump called Biden "the worst president in history". Biden cited the long-debunked "fine people hoax" (which can be disproven by merely watching the full footage of the interview in which neo-nazis were supposedly called "fine people" which was broadcast on CNN and transcripted on their website) in the speech announcing his candidacy in 2020.
The TDS crowd went ripshit over the "kids in cages" photos and turned "trump has turned us into a country where this could happen" became a mantra for several months. When they had to face the proof that the photo in question was taken in 2014, that mantra turned into "it doesn't matter when it started, it's only important that it's still happening now" (notice the removal of the entire premise that the country had somehow been fundamentally altered in Jan 2017); the reality was that what changed is that we went from being a nation where the media would willfully suppress publication of the photo in order to not report on something "embarrassing to the administration" into a nation where there was some semblance of transparency and the "fourth estate" was willing to do their job (and then some, as it turned out) of "holding government accountable".
Not to mention the full-scale media reversal by which trump's "excessive focus on vaccine development was his greatest failure of leadership" during the 2020 campaign (and prominent Dems were falling over themselves to announce publicly that they wouldn't trust the "trump vaccine"). Then in January of 2021, trump supposedly became the primary ring-leader of "vaccine hesitancy" and Biden acted as if the timeline under which mass production/distribution of doses scaling up in the first two quarters of that year was somehow brought about by his having taken over as President (and all the Dems who swore they'd never trust the shot developed under trump immediately began demanding that jabs be made mandatory as a precondition to simple continue to exist inside the USA).
Biden is still the President. How is it immaterial to call him out as a liar?
It’s not. But Trump is The Debil you see, so all the focus must be on him.
"as far as the presidential campaign goes"
That would require Biden to have the ability to string a sentence together. That didn’t happen.
Paul Krugman called Biden the Greatest President of his Lifetime. Time for a fact check?
You mean Krugman, who won a nobel prize for being a Democrat party spokesman?
You mean Paul "the stimulus didn't work because we didn't spend enough" Krugman?
No, Paul "Trump’s stock market will crater and never recover" Krugman. Show some respect.
Reposting this here, since this is a thread about the leader of the mixed-economy world.
So we’re what, over 24 hours in and no one has even seen the President yet? Does this seem at all strange to anyone?
They did email a doctor's note.
They’re now at “He’s perfectly healthy, but can’t be seen for reasons.”
I mean, literally Biden’s doctor is saying his vitals are back to normal. But, inexplicably, he can’t so much as pick up a phone.
I’m starting to wonder if, no joke, they really HAVEN’T let him know that he resigned the nomination yet. And are just waiting for things to go so far that his protesting that he didn’t, honest, won’t matter.
Maybe they’ve got him locked up with the J6ers.
So someone alleged to be Biden called into a Harris rally today. Her campaign manager or somebody stood awkwardly onstage taking pics with her cellphone for some reason. The call lasted for maybe 4 or 5 minutes. The voice sounded like a young energetic Joe Biden. The weird thing is that there was not a single long pause or "well anyway" or "the idea that" or low talking or whispering. In short it sounded like Biden but it didn't really sound like Biden. Maybe he'll show his face tomorrow and my misgivings will disappear. But the shit is pretty spooky.
What did they do, train Harry Sisson to change his voice to sound like Young Biden-stien's Monster?
The things you can do with AI these days is amazing….
was about to make a comment to that effect
-the 'tell' would be exactly what was mentioned .. the idiosyncracies of current living Biden's actual speech. They can make it sound exactly like him and yet it wont 'sound' like him
Kyle Dunnigan was doing some almost entirely believable deepfakes in 2019. The only real indication that it was fake was that the "man behind the curtain" was sitting in front of the projected image of the talking head which was being rendered in real-time by a consumer-grade laptop.
At the start it sounds like Harris half says "recording" but then stops herself to say call. Wouldn't be hard to edit together a scripted call with his side edited together from old clips.
Laura Loomer is asserting that Biden may be dying.
I thought they were going to use a pillow or withhold a critical drug. Leaning more towards nature taking care of it for them
Biden's body is joining his brain? I don't believe anything coming from any part of the administration.
With the number of other soviet "politburo" tactics the DNC has employed in the last couple of years, it would only be mildly surprising if Biden had died as much as 72 hours prior to the announcement of his dropping out as a candidate.
Oh, FFS.
Oh yeah? Well, whatabout Democrats, huh? How come you’re not talking about Democrats? I’ll tell you why. Because you’re one of them. You’re a leftist. Only leftists criticize Trump. If you supported him you’d be talking about Democrat lies. But you don’t. And if you don’t support him then you support the other guy. “Both sides” is code for “I support Democrats” because a Trump supporter would never blame both sides. Trump supporters only blame Democrats. That means you’re a leftist. Leftist.
TDS. Pure TDS.
Mixed with alcohol.
Stirred with a plug of tobacco and a couple of edibles.
Nah, he stirs it with his little pencil dick.
A tiny limp noodle?
Yes. Trump supporters like you are indeed deranged.
Isn't that exactly what you accuse everyone else of doing, of assuming it's only one or the other, of reading your mind?
Drink some more, see if you can match Biden's healthy state.
As deranged as this?
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Screw being humane. Whip out a machete and swipe off the head, then laugh as it runs around with blood squirting up into the air before landing on the heads of screaming children. I’d register to vote for that guy.
Or this?
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LET JESSEAZ AND FRIENDS CUT AND PASTE TO SHOW IM A LIAR ABOUT COCAINE AND CAN’T BE TRUSTED ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE
QUOTE IT BITCHES!!!!
Or maybe this?
sarcasmic
September.9.2021 at 11:59 am
I’M EVERYONE AND EVERYWHERE!!!!!!! I DONT EAT OR SHIT OR PISS OR FUCK OR NOTHING!!!!! ALL I DO IS POST UNDER MULTIPLE NAMES 24/7!!! I HAVEN’T BEEN TO THE BATHROOM IN WEEKS!!!!
Says the guy who will always rise to Trump’s defense, saying he was engaging in hyperbole, or that it was taken out of context. Or he didn’t mean it, or was misinformed. He was speaking metaphorically, or making a joke.
And the fact that you're saving comments I made three years ago is just disturbing. You're a stalker.
Oh come on, that's not fair! ML will criticize Trump - when he's alone, in his basement, with all the curtains drawn, and the computer's off and no one's listening, ML will *sometimes* say "man, Trump really should get a better hair stylist".
That totally proves ML is not a Trump shill!
He freely admits to being a Trump shill. But he then projects his shrill shillness onto anyone who isn't.
No no. ML once said "Fuck Trump" and so you can believe he is being honest when ML does praise him. Totally.
But seriously, ML is definitely a master gaslighter. He will declare lies to be truth, and he will do so with such an air of sneering condescension, he evokes shame for even daring to disagree with him.
"Why everyone knows 2+2=5. Who doesn't know this already? What are you, daft? A moron? A Biden voter? God you are such an idiot."
He’s just smarter than a leftist Supreme Court justice.
You two faggots should go off somewhere and fuck each other.
Never come back.
Just like in 2016, when your articles slant 10:1 in one direction, to a normal person it points to a plainly obvious bias. Which would be fine, except:
1. As a “libertarian” rag, especially one that goes hard in the paint for “both sides”, you’d think it would be more like 6:4. And 2. The Democrats are worse by every conceivable metric.
I get it, it’s easier to take Republicans to task because the Democrats are just that plain fucking horrible and there’s a possibility the scolding will get some Republicans to change their ways. (Edit: and good luck scolding the democrats into being economically literate or cutting spending)
But I’m sure anyone here that’s been married or divorced can attest that constant nagging rarely has the desired effect.
The biggest difference between Biden and Trump is that Biden is a professional liar whereas Trump is a rank amateur
That's what pisses the politicians off the most. Not that he lies about stuff. They ALL do. It's just that he's obvious about it
Kind of like giving MD 20/20 to a wine connoisseur
Hey! Sarspasstic can drink whatever he wants!
Whoa, word on the street is, the pronoun gang on Tik Tok are losing their minds!
So we've beat Medicare and trimesters have something to do with who'd deciding the abortion? Care to weigh in on Joe's many plagiarism scandals or is an exaggeration worse than theft to you?
"And leaving aside the question of where exactly Biden should rank on the list of worst presidents,"
At the very bottom.
Oh I think there are a few who rank lower.
William Henry Harrison comes to mind.
Wilson as well.
William Henry Harrison is legendary. He did less to screw Americans over than any other President.
William Henry Harrison can be considered the best President as he did absolutely nothing while President.
Now, let's discuss Woodrow Wilson...
So Jeffy, where does Trump rank versus Biden in your opinion.
Nah, Wilson and FDR compete for the bottom spot.
No, Mr. Sullum, you are lying. I am told by the Totally Neutral and Not-Shill Mother's Lament that Trump told zero lies in the debate. Zero. Every single thing that he said was the absolute 100% truth.
Tell us all what Trump lied about then, shithead.
I've got all those cites from last time just waiting for your dishonest, shilling ass to try and lie about it.
Why don't you tell us where you think Trump lied. Either in the debate or his convention speech. Did he lie even once?
No answer huh?
No Fatfuck, you tell us.
"I also gave you the largest regulation cut in history," Trump averred. That claim likewise does not withstand scrutiny.
Yeah I have been skeptical of that claim too. Yes yes, Jesse and ML and the other shills will tout his EO which decreed a cut to regulations. But the proof is in the pudding. What is the tangible, meaningful result of this supposed regulation cut? What could I have pointed to, on Jan. 19, 2021, and declare "Because of Trump's regulation cuts in *this specific area*, I am freer now". What is that area?
But the proof is in the pudding. What is the tangible, meaningful result of this supposed regulation cut? What could I have pointed to, on Jan. 19, 2021, and declare “Because of Trump’s regulation cuts in *this specific area*, I am freer now”.
Wut?
He cut regulations but because the effects weren’t immediately apparent at the end of his term it somehow magically doesn’t count? Do you think if you slam on the brakes at 100mph the car immediately stops?
You’re not even trying anymore, are you? Just phoning it in. Media Matters is going to be pissed.
If that is your argument, then show me some evidence that the "car" was even slowing down from 100 mph.
You’re pathetic. So desperate. It’s time for you to go.
Just focus on eating yourself to death.
Cutting a regulation is meaningless if the regulators choose to ignore it. Trump was openly opposed by regulators who did as they pleased.
President Joe Biden's performance in his June 27 debate with Donald Trump was so bad that it ultimately resulted in his withdrawal from the election
Well that’s an interesting way to put it. If you’re a gaslighting toady for the fucking Democrats, that is.
"I was born a poor black child." - Joe Biden
Did he ever find his special purpose?
He can spend his free time searching for Jackie (or the real killers, now that O.J. can’t do it).
Maybe he can hunt down the guy who molested his daughter Ashley in the shower.
Know who WASN'T lying?
All those Democrats saying Biden was just fine and did not have any cognitive issues for the past several years in spite of rampant evidence that he did have issues.
Even Kamala said he was good earlier this month.
I'd also like some discussion of the legality of removing a candidate who legally won the nomination because...he was likely not going to win the election.
Kinda makes primaries utterly pointless and they were put there to specifically PREVENT parties from simply naming a candidate of their choice.
The Dem primaries were already pretty pointless with their Super Delegates allowing the party bosses to put their thumbs on the scale. This latest soft coup against Biden just takes all pretense away.
Lissen! LISTEN! We had to destroy democracy in order to save it.
Also, populism or something - if there's one thing the Part of Slavery has never been, its willing to listen to 'the little people'. The DNC says if you just did what they told you to do, no one would have gotten hurt.
We must defend democracy by ignoring our voters because...Trump!
Reason has written zero articles on that. Surprise.
**TRUMP!**
TRUMP!TRUMP!TRUMP!TRUMP!TRUMP!TRUP!
We will, of course, ignore the 50 years of lies that Biden has told - and still keeps repeating.
I swear to Christ, I just come from reading a good Sullum article elsewhere and then pop in to Reason to see this TDS garbage vomited out.
KMW - you need to get Sullum off the Trump beat. Its made him deranged. Get him back to talking about prohibition - like, you don't let ENB talk about much beyond sex work. This is about the man's mental health.
Everyone at Reason needs to resign/commit seppuku.
Americans have become so inured to Trump's habitual hyperbole that it may not make a difference in this election.
Which is precisely what makes the remainder of this article utterly pointless. The underlying point of hyperbole is that the basic point is true, if exaggerated. Normal people aren't looking to Donald Trump for a detailed policy analysis. They're looking to him hoping that he understands true things that his opponents are lying about, even directionally - Russiagate, the Hunter laptop, foregoing foreign adventurism, establishment corruption, etc.
It really doesn't matter all that much to me if Donald Trump says he's the richest guy in the world when the point he's making is that he's very, very, rich.
The exaggerations do get tiresome, but for the most part he's addressing reality. It's a shame that Reason still sticks with the line that any claims of impropriety in the 2020 election are ridiculous lies.
"While these judgments are admittedly subjective"
Yes. Yes they are.
And being as so-subjective as they are the article rings as absolutely nothing but a case of TDS. There was nothing there except ... "Trump exaggerated because back in 1600 blah, blah, blah and a topping of we found the needle in a haystack that is subjectively a needle at all so it's a LIE."
Now Reason is doing the BS "fact checker" narrative.
"Well he did do all those things BUT........ so it's a LIE."
Biden's performance was so bad, but here's a bunch of reasons to hate Trump.
This is dumb partisan schlock. If you want to run a Trump hitpiece, then just run it. Don't pretend like you're being impartial and objective by bringing up Tapioca Joe's incoherent.. you know, the thing.. where it... well anyway.
'Biden's Race-Ending Debate Performance Was So Bad That It Eclipsed Trump's Flagrant Falsehoods'
Also eclipsed:
Biden's flagrant falsehoods
Kackela's flagrant falsehoods
The White House press secretary's flagrant falsehoods
The White House press corps' flagrant falsehoods
Corporate media's flagrant falsehoods
Reason's flagrant falsehoods
Not eclipsed:
The asshole Sullum's case of TDS.
Of course it's standard political practice. In fact the most accurate description of Trump's tactics is that he finally applied the left's tactics to right-politics. The only differences are that the left lies about far more consequential matters and their willingness to support lies corrupts many more of our institutions.
The data about economic growth were about right, except in one instance, George HW Bush. The two lowest growth rates in the last 50 years were the Bushes. Bush I was 1.9%, significantly worse than Trump (or even Carter at 2.5%). But the clear all time worst was his son, Bush II at 1.7%.
Within the margin of error, Trump was about the same as Jimmy Carter, hardly a great recommendation. On the other hand, Trump was 0.5% better than anyone else in the 21st century.
Trump could never prove that the election irregularities changed the outcome. However, anyone who looked at the changes to election laws and the 400 million dollars spent by Zuckerberg to register three times as many Democrats as Republicans, has reason to wonder if the election was completely on the up and up.
Trump is a world class liar, but his opponents easily match him lie for lie. Remember, the dozens of Democrats who stated categorically that Biden was as "sharp as a tack".
The real problem is why do people believe obvious lies?
Donald Trump get a bad rap in that he honestly doesn't lie any more that the majority of other politicians. The corporate and alternative media simply focuses on Donald Trumps lies which are usually a bending of the truth and not outright lies while not focusing on the lies of other politicians. Of course most of the corporate media will attack anyone who is not in lock step with the DNC talking points. with alternative media it is more scattershot depending on the biases of the outlet.
We are now safe that the old senile man has now been removed by the Authoritarian Guardians of Democracy in-spite of the voices of the voters who were denied a primary and have installed the Savior of Democracy. I can imagine what she can be or do, unburdened by what she has been or done. Bravo for the Democrat party for demonstrating the power of democracy by forcing your will on the voters. I don't think that Putin or Xi Jinping could have done it better.
The real fun part is when the Reason staff votes for Harris in order to protect themselves from "Trumpitler". Reason has to move out of DC, they have been corrupted by being close to the center of power.
Lord Acton’s famous statement “Power tends to corrupt and absolute corrupts absolutely” was not about the person with the power becoming corrupt, it was about the people around the person with the power. They become corrupt by genuflecting before the powerful in an attempt to curry favor. Moore and Kudlow are prime examples by going along with tariffs, which both opposed in the era before Trump.
Every time I look at my IRA, I know I won't vote for the Democrat.
Americans have become so inured to Trump's habitual hyperbole that it may not make a difference in this election.
ROFLMAO! *Trump's* habitual hyperbole... LOL... *This* election!
Looks like, after a brief interruption by a letter from our POTUS, we're back to live coverage from year [checks calendar] 8 of the Special Olympics of Journalism.
"Special Olympics of Journalism"
That's not really fair. No one at the Special Olympics chose to be disabled. The "journalists" are willfully blind.
I just took a look at the source of Sullum’s economic data. It’s a joke. Investopedia does not cite where their data comes from. I know that it’s not the St Louis Fed because I used that data and had different results.
However, the idiot who wrote that article stated that Herbert Hoover’s “laissez faire” philosophy created the depression. He further stated that Roosevelt’s policies created an average growth of 10% per year. That growth didn’t affect unemployment very much since the highest unemployment came in 1937 of over 17%.
Roosevelt's numbers are about as reliable as the results of the Soviet Five Year Plans, and for the same reason.
Anyone who want to can go to the Fed data for themselves. Sullum should be ashamed of himself for not thoroughly checking his source.
"During the debate, Trump alluded to his never-substantiated claim that the 2020 election was rigged, saying "the fraud and everything else was ridiculous." But even apart from his stolen-election fantasy, he said a bunch of things that were demonstrably false."
The Biden Campaign colluded with the US Government to get the Hunter laptop story suppressed---at a minimum, that caused an unfair election.
https://hereistheevidence.com/
"Biden's Race-Ending Debate Performance Was So Bad That It Eclipsed Trump's Flagrant Falsehoods"
Neither begins to compare to the raging case of TDS Sullum has.
FOAD, shit-bag.
Sullum the worthless regime cuck has yet to write a word about the unprecedented lies and falsehoods spewed daily from the democrats and state media. GFY dolt.
More hot takes from a regime boot licker. The cuck will vote for DEI idiot because "democracy", lmao.
Reason - I would like to say it's not you it's me but it is definitely you.
I'm not even a fan of Trump, but I do like his policies - Reason you open borders piece of...
I came here when Drew Carey was here in 2013. Reason, you have definitely, well not just shifted but basically just grabbed the wheel all the way to the left.
The commenters are awesome (I wonder if Tony finally snapped because I don't see him).
I just can't do it anymore.
What I find amazing is Trump seems to lie all the time even when it is not necessary. He was an incumbent President in 2020 and likely would have won had he focused on his record. Rather he focused on grievance and how he was treated unfairly, like anyone cares. Likewise at the debate he could have focused on his administration accomplishments and instead just unloads a stream of BS. I think part of his problem is that he is limited in intelligence and is unable to hold a lot of facts in his head and so simply makes them up as he goes. He tends to the biggest which are the easiest lies to spot.
Trump? Why go back in history. How about this week. Biden's letter included these doosies:
"Today, America has the strongest economy in the world."
"Pass the first gun safety law in 30 years" (it tweaks a few things, cajoles states to take action. "It" is an amalgam of iterations)
And my favorite: "passed the most significant climate legislation in the history of the world."
Yes, he said "In the history of the world." He regulated shower heads and refrigerators while China is adding approximately two coal power plants per week while we think EV incentives and carbon taxes are doing anything other than stifling our own economy. Who's a liar?
Biden can match Trump lie for lie with no effort, especially since he had professional liars writing his speeches and the media covering for him.
Trump's problem isn't the lies he told or the lies told about him. His problem is that the undecided voters make their decisions based on social media, legacy media, colleges, Hollywood and the Deep State bureaucracies feeding them nonsense in every movie, every newscast, every classroom and at every social service center.
Against that, Trump will need more than a lucky missed assassination attempt. That kind of luck is like winning the lottery twice.
So, what country today has a stronger economy than the US?
Yesterday: Harris said Biden's "legacy of accomplishment over the past three years is unmatched in modern history."
Let me guess. This is the *good* kind of hyperbole, that is not worthy of being called out as a "falsehood".