'If They Can Control the Flow of Information, They Can Control You': BASEDPolitics Sues To Stop TikTok Ban
The plaintiffs hope to "help Republicans and conservatives see why this ban is inconsistent with the free speech values they say they care about."

The creators behind BASEDPolitics are suing over a measure meant to either ban TikTok or force its divestiture.
President Joe Biden signed the (highly unconstitutional) bill in April, and it already faces several legal challenges, including one filed by TikTok and one filed by eight TikTok content creators. Like those efforts, the BASEDPolitics suit focuses on the law's affront to free speech.
"We wanted to file a lawsuit that was specifically focused on free speech and the First Amendment from the creators' perspective, rather than some of the other, business-related concerns in other lawsuits," Brad Polumbo of BASEDPolitics tells me. "We also wanted to emphasize the political speech aspect, rather than other creators who are more in the mold of everyday 'influencers,' and show that right-leaning/non-liberal voices are being impacted by this as well."
Polumbo hopes the lawsuit will "help Republicans and conservatives see why this ban is inconsistent with the free speech values they say they care about."
TikTok Ban: Not Just Bad for Lifestyle Influencers or Leftists
BASEDPolitics is a nonprofit media organization run by Polumbo, Hannah Cox, and Jack Hunter. Its goal is to introduce young people "to the ideas of free market capitalism and individual liberty."
TikTok helps them reach audiences they likely wouldn't reach on other platforms, says Cox. "Both Brad and I have large platforms across social media, but TikTok offers a unique audience that can't be found elsewhere," she tells me. "Most on TikTok loathe Meta and X, so if they weren't on TikTok it's unlikely they'd engage meaningfully elsewhere. Their algorithm is also more open, and it enables us to reach many people who would never encounter us otherwise."
There's a popular perception that TikTok either isn't a place for political speech or is an asset only for left-leaning political speakers. But the BASEDPolitics team hasn't found this to be true at all.
"Anyone who thinks TikTok is all just frivolous content is probably not a user," says Polumbo. "There's substantive conversation happening on there on every issue under the sun, from religion to dating to politics." And while "TikTok is dominated by left-leaning content," it's also "a much more politically diverse ecosystem than many might think."
Their suit focuses not just on how a ban would negatively affect BASEDPolitics but on its larger repurcussions for civil liberties.
"We felt the need to stand up as individuals who are using TikTok to effectively fight back against the government and educate others on the principles of free market capitalism, individual rights, and limited government," says Cox, who sees all sorts of "incredible work being done on TikTok—both politically and non politically."
"People are pushing back on war…they're questioning our monetary system, they're highlighting injustices carried out by our government," she says. "Outside of politics, TikTok is now the top search engine for young people. They're getting mental health resources from therapists, DIY help from retired grandpas, nutrition information they can't get from their health insurance and pharmaceutical companies. The list is endless."
Propaganda Is Free Speech
BASEDPolitics is being represented by the Liberty Justice Center. The suit seeks a declaration that the anti-TikTok law—officially known as the Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act—is unconstitutional and a block on the U.S. Attorney General enforcing it.
The law makes it illegal for Americans to "access, maintain, or update" apps linked to "foreign adversaries," a category that the measure defines to include TikTok. TikTok will be banned if TikTok parent company ByteDance does not sell it by January 19, 2025. The law also allows the president to declare other apps off limits (or force their sale) if they're based out of any country declared a foreign adversary or if anyone based in these countries owns a fifth or more of the app.
"The Act violates the First Amendment because it bans all speech on TikTok—even though all, or nearly all, of that speech is constitutionally protected," the Liberty Justice Center states in a press release. "The lawsuit also argues that lawmakers' justifications for the ban—national security and protecting Americans from propaganda—cannot justify the infringement on users' First Amendment rights, because there is no evidence that TikTok threatens national security or that a complete ban is necessary to address whatever threat it might pose. Furthermore, the lawsuit argues, the First Amendment does not allow the government to suppress 'propaganda,' which is simply speech."
Cox elaborates on this point in a video about the lawsuit, noting that people act like TikTok is unique because it could be linked to the Chinese Communist Party. Yet "you have tons of state-owned media that is available in the U.S.," points out Cox, citing the BBC and Russia today as two examples.
In the U.S., we don't ban speech merely because another government—even one we find alarming—might endorse it. So even if some of the more speculative fears about China and TikTok are true, that should be no reason to ban it entirely.
Cox says this sort of thing is more befitting of "communist dystopias" such as North Korea.
There's been some (overhyped) concern about TikTok suppressing content that could offend Chinese authorities. But even if that's true, it wouldn't justify a ban either.
"As First Amendment supporters, we also support the legal right of TikTok as a private platform to ban or restrict whatever kinds of content it wants even if we personally resent their choices or think it's unfair," Polumbo adds.
Larger Anti-Speech and Anti-Tech Trends
"If enacted, this would constitute one of the most egregious acts of censorship in modern American history," Cox and Polumbo write, placing the TikTok ban in the midst of larger anti-speech and anti-tech trends:
In the federal and state governments, both Republicans and Democrats have become increasingly anti-free speech in recent years. We've seen a plethora of bills that have sought to strip Americans and their businesses of their right to free expression, many of them presented as necessary to rein in "Big Tech." The TikTok ban is merely the latest iteration of this trend.
The truth is that government actors who want to preserve and expand their own power have a vital interest in taking over the tech industry. Of course the government has yet to see a thriving free market industry it doesn't want to get its hands on. But social media in particular poses a unique threat to the government—which has for decades been able to control the flow of information and the narrative on political issues via its cozy relationship with many in the mainstream media.
We've seen the Biden Administration seek to lasso social media in a similar fashion numerous times over the past couple of years thanks to the bombshell reports released under both the Twitter Files and the Facebook Files—not to mention the government-wide conspiracy to shadowban information on our own government's funding of the Wuhan lab….
The obvious point is that government officials do not want the American people to be able to freely share information, especially information that makes them look bad.
The bottom line, they suggest, is that "if they can control the flow of information, they can control you."
"Social media poses a unique threat to politicians and the government, and that's because for decades…the government could control the narrative, and they could control the narrative because they mostly control the mainstream media," says Cox in her video. "As social media has grown, they have lost more and more control of the narrative, because they are no longer the gatekeepers, and they don't control the gatekeepers anymore."
"Ultimately the war on Big Tech is a war on free speech and the government desperately trying to regain control of the narrative the [mainstream media] granted them for decades," she tells me.
The BASEDPolitics team also pushes back on the idea that this isn't really a ban because it gives ByteDance the option to sell. "In effect, the legislation is an outright ban on the app, because Bytedance, TikTok's parent company, is likely legally prohibited from selling the TikTok algorithm by China's export control laws," write Cox and Polumbo. "And, TikTok without its algorithm is not really TikTok at all."
You can read their full complaint here.
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AF Post: Germany’s nationalist AfD is using TikTok to spread its message online, and far outperforming other parties on the platform.
The campaign is working, with a recent poll showing the party polling #1 among young people 14-29.
- Bellum Acta
Germany’s Alternativ für Deutschland showing over 400,000 versus about 100,000 for SPD, CDU, FDP, and Linke combined.
Are they polling better from TikTok, or with TikTok?
Ich weiß es nicht.
Do you know who else was popular with young people in Germany?
Caillou?
David Hasselhoff?
This.
Yeah! The Hoff!
In France Marine LePenn just kicked Macaroni's arse good and hard. The left wing party in Germany is scared to death of the rise of the AFD Party.
It's somewhat ironic that a one-trick writer phrases the problem as generic and not specialist.
FWIW, I believe there have been other Reason writers discussing this government overreach from a less specialist viewpoint.
"Based Politics"
Run by a dimwitted feminist bitch and a gay pedophile bugman.
I am not at all surprised Reason is promoting a(nother) leftist rag that lies about its position.
When it comes to fighting China and immigrants, limited government and personal liberty take a back seat. If you disagree then you're a leftist.
Poor sarc
Yes, pour Sarc.
Youre in the depression stage of admitting you've become a leftist.
Lol. Everything about being a leftist is depressing, when Everything Is So Terrible And Unfair.
If the Union of States wasn't created for National Defense then please do tell us all exactly why it was established at all?
Is there any good reason for this Union to remain?
Not by recent actions no. Course all those recent actions aren't even done by the USA; they are done by a [Na]tional So[zi]alist Regime who doesn't adhere to a USA union.
Sure. Purge the Marxist filth and get back to being a real constitutional republic. Disposing of democratkind is infinitely preferable to forsaking our country.
Democrats aren’t worth all the misery, injustice and oppression they cause. Scrape them off.
It is neither intelligent nor honest to equate people who want work with armed soldiers under the employ of a foreign government.
It is neither intelligent nor honest to pretend that 51% (more than half) of immigrants are on welfare (STEALING) and 70% will vote to kill the USA if given the chance.
You can bang your drum about 'working' all you want. Every statistic shows otherwise as well as the ruins of their own nation; the very reason for wanting to CONQUER and CONSUME some other nation.
You democrats really hate this country. You should get out, or accept that you will be driven out.
Christian National Socialists have since Buckey's heyday resented the fact they are recognized as looters--just like all the other force-initiating brainwashees. So they keep coming up with new brands like "wouk" (meaning nonnazi), liburul (meaning nonnazi), and leftist (meaning looter socialist who believes in Satan and Lazarus awakening). Libertarian non-looters are part of a daunting three-party-problem that requires long division. Sad.
I have to disagree with you on this.
When it comes to ANYTHING these right wing wackos want disagreement automatically makes you a leftist. That's their one thing to accuse people of. They just lack the imagination to actually think up a good insult.
Funny, I'm in the land of liberals (NYC) and I can't have a conversation with them about prosecutors over charging or charge stacking anymore. I'm called a Trump fan for defending prosecutorial reform.
The left isn't any better. When I screw around on leftist forums they call me a right wing extremist who wants to reenslave the blacks. It's just reflexive now. There is no civil discussion anymore.
Yeah! Only China is allowed to suppress and 'moderate' free speech on TikTok!
Wait...that is the point of this right? That China has an absolute right to monitor and suppress American's speech on TikTok?
Obviously America can't do that, so maybe we should offshore our speech suppression to other countries. That's perfectly fine, after all.
Note: I'm not necessarily in favor of banning TikTok, but at the same time it's a foreign company like any other and doesn't have an absolute right to operate in the United States. If we're going to ban them, though, I'd like to have a more concrete idea on why beyond 'it's a Chinese company'. I hate the way China does business, absolutely, but so far I'm unclear on exactly why TikTok is different from all those other Chinese companies that operate in the US, often in far more sensitive industries.
It's just politics. The very existence of government encourages parasites to look for ways to sic government on other people, and encourages burrocrats to seek out cronies with lots of money.
Yeah, that’s been my takeaway on it so far. More or less it seems to be preying on the fears of Boomer Republicans that don’t understand social media and are therefore afraid of it.
That said, it’s absurd to me that people are citing free speech when dealing with TikTok since it is quite overtly a Chinese company who absolutely suppress free speech on their platform. While the American government has prohibitions on that kind of thing, at least in theory, the fact remains that even with the current status quo there is no freedom of speech on TikTok. At all.
This basically boils down to people don’t want two different governments ‘suppressing speech’ when one is apparently enough to do the job. The end result people seem to be looking for, that being more free speech, is simply not on the table.
The end result people seem to be looking for, that being more free speech, is simply not on the table.
Layers deep.
Naturalized Chinese Ex-pats on American soil owning a company would be an association, rather than speech, issue. But that's not the issue at hand. As has been demonstrated by the "All your Christian Nationalist wedding pizzerias and birthing persons spaces are belong to us." media outlets, free association is not their concern.
Umm. Did you see the roll call on the bill?
You're an idiot. Most democrats and independents also favor banning tik tok, it isn't a boomer or republican thing.
Democrats are of course eager to ban it too, but notably some of the loudest voices damning TikTok are Republicans. The people who repeat their nonsense the most are generally older Republicans, at least in my limited experience.
It would seem Democrats beat them to the punch, but let us not pretend that Republicans as a whole are any better or even differentiated from their Democrat counterparts on this issue.
And yes, there are Republicans that think this is a stupid idea but they are by far a minority. I guess we can give them credit for a principled stance, but since it’s mostly performative it doesn’t really matter does it.
Sure Democrats want control of social media. But the point is they didn't have to try and push for this bill. The Republicans did all the heavy lifting for this one. The average American likely has no idea that any Democrats voted for the bill.
In this case it's more a free press issue than free speech. But the constitutional protections are just the same. By a plain reading of 1A, congress can't restrict Ticktock's publishing in the US any more than they can any American media company. I don't see "unless it's controlled by a foreign government" anywhere in the text.
Again, I'm not really in favor of banning TikTok I just find it interesting that no matter what the end result of all this panic mongering looks like free speech will not exist on TikTok.
Which, at least to me, creates some interesting quandaries regarding offshoring the American governments censorship to 3rd parties and foreign governments who don't have to follow the constitution. It seems to be a feature, and not a bug, and I'm pretty sure the American government is only making waves with TikTok because the CCCP is following their own censorship agenda rather than the censorship agenda of the FedGov.
If China agreed to blot out what the FedGov wants them to blot out, they would probably not utter a word about TikTok ever again. I'd expect the CCCP to knuckle under and agree to at least pay lip service to the FedGov's censorship requests, and then this will all quietly go away.
I think you are probably correct. I'm sticking to the purely legal/constitutional question because I've never looked at Ticktock in my life, I have no idea what they censor or promote and I find the whole thing confusing and annoying more than anything. And I really like how the 1st just draws a line that government cannot cross and leaves it at that.
Well, the first amendment doesn't have anything to say on whether or not China is allowed to suppress speech. The 1st amendment limits what congress and by extension the US government can do, not China or any private party.
It's important to remember that the 1st by itself cannot guarantee that people will have effective free expression. It needs to be maintained as a cultural value as well.
So when Mark Zuckerberg censors speech on his platform, no one seems to care?
Even YouTube censors speech and certain videos for unknown reasons.
I'm pretty sure the reason people want to ban Ticktock isn't that it doesn't allow complete free expression for Americans.
> The plaintiffs hope to "help Republicans and conservatives see why this ban is inconsistent with the free speech values they say they care about.
As witnessed in recent years, Republicans and conservatives do NOT value free speech for those outside of their tribe.
They certainly have their blind spots, but they seem a hell of a lot better than Democrats and progressives on speech at this point.
The left-leaning people on this site have a major issue with recognizing scale. For some reason, it's a zero-sum game in their mind. Doesn't matter if one side is doing it on a grander scale, if both do it in any capacity, they are equally bad.
In brandys case if even 1 conservative does it it is the GOPs issue.
Left leaning people are intrinsically disingenuous.
So, like chosing Hitler over Stalin... or is it the other way around? So hard to tell today which of the two parties is slightly better than the otherm
Right, because the last three years were just exactly the same as the four before that.
I really haven't noticed a huge difference in the rate of our nation swirling down the toilet bowel. The changes in my life, for better or worse, have been my doing.
Since I was 18 and Ronald Reagan was president I can't really say anything the guy in the office or the party in charge has done has really helped or hindered me. I managed to fuck shit up without their help. I managed to get out of the hole I dug without their help.
I don't think either of them really distinguished themselves as proponents of free speech.
As I said, Republicans have their problems on speech, but I just don't see them trying to restrict public discourse in anything close to the same way the left is doing.
I guess it depends on what you are trying to say. If you want to say what Republicans want to hear then they are great. If you want to say what Democrats want to hear then they are great.
Well, if Republicans don't care we're just plain fucked since the alternative are people who absolutely do care and they specifically care about getting rid of your freedom of speech.
So take your pick: A group that 'doesn't care' about free speech or a group that are actively hostile towards it.
Pretty good summary. I'm close to an anarchist, but in the real world, choices matter. Pretending the Uniparty has one monolithic goal obscures the fact that individuals still make up the Uniparty, and they have different goals.
It is amazing the GOP forced a shit ton of democrats to also vote for it.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2024/tiktok-ban-house-vote/
It is funny since more [R]-33 voted against it than [D]-26 in the House.
WHO signed this bill?
Maybe Biden shouldn't have signed it --- It's Biden's TikTok Ban! /s
Ref; The Cares Act.
Using the logic of Trump's Deranged Supporters, that means that Republicans are 100% responsible. After all, a president isn't responsible for bills they sign if the other party wrote it.
Indeed. Glad you got my sarcastic point.
Tell us again how It's Trumps Cares Act.
And liberals do not? The leftists are as bad if not worse. Not only do they want and impose censorship they also would like to "re-educate" Trump supporters.
Americans are punished for using the wrong pronouns or refusing to even do so.
If someone refuses to go along with the official narrative, they get de-monetized and or banned outright.
YouTube and Facebook are by far the worst.
People who are openly hostile to free speech are not liberals. The left had become almost completely illiberal and censorship seems to be one of their primary values at this point.
You forget that criticism of Republicans equals support for the left.
If you say "Republicans are bad about xyz" what you're really saying is "I like the Democrat position about xyz."
Because it's one or the other. It's not possible to criticize Republicans and just leave it at that. Everything is a whatabout.
Support for the left equals support for the left. And you get mad because we point out your support for the left.
""You forget that criticism of Republicans equals support for the left.""
And criticism of democrats means you support MAGA.
It's become a sad state of affairs when people think if you are not X then you are Y. But liberals claim to own higher education so shouldn't they know better?
But only one side might complain about me using X and Y because it triggers a gender debate.
‘If They Can Control the Flow of Information, They Can Control You’
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force its divestiture.
Given her past intellectual contribution to the field, I can only surmise that ENB has had the part of her brain that allows her to differentiate information itself from the medium, platform, and/or the speaker totally removed.
As someone who is fully aware of the history of things like The US Information Agency and the collusion between the government, telcos, and especially platforms/service providers in the last several years, the idea that forcing Tiktok to divest is a threat to speech or any/all particular messages is laughably detached. Maybe it has some *slight* implication with regard to free association but, even at that, it’s a bit of quibbling about the government’s ability to execute a metaphorical restraining order in the background of the Administration capriciously cutting off allies, associating with and providing aid to failed kleptocracies and terror groups and more than a decade after "You didn't build that."/"If you like your
short form internet media platformdoctor, you can keep yourshort form internet media platformdoctor."Oliver brags about Trump being worried about 3%, while insisting he’s not a spoiler. You people deserve the coattail-riding, Trump-level bragging “3%” you *think* you’re going to get.
Kaytlin Bailey and Yasmin Vafa debate whether it's OK to pay for sex.
LOL.
The distance to which even the idea of this debate is out of touch is hilarious. You'd think for all the shrieking "Men shouldn't dictate women's choices." and "MUH EKWALLITEE!" women would be less oblivious and more generally socially cognizant than to host and *try* to advertise the equivalent of a "Mike Pence and Joel Osteen debate whether it's OK for trophy wives to spend their husband's shopping money on contraception." debate... and, yet, here we are.
I agree that there is excellent political stuff on Tik Tok and that it is not all dancing and make-up videos, however, is it not concerning that they may be suppressing many viewpoints? As you mention in the article, "if they can control the flow of information, they can control you." Does it not concern the editors at Reason that the Chinese government is using Tik Tok to control you?
We can what about all the propaganda arms of the US government and the fact that many other homegrown media organizations are just fronts for propaganda, but that does not diminish the fact that this is concerning. The problem is that while we understand that we choose where to consume our information, there are many many stupid people who vote and with all this garbage propaganda floating around the internet we are rotting our brains and creating vaccums for bad actors to exploit. I don't want to ban companies but I would like to see a reasonable discussion about what to do.
funny, no one is using Tik Tok to control me, since I've never visited the site.
If the Chinese can control Americans with a stupid fucking video app, is there any point even bothering? Someone with nefarious intentions is going to take advantage of that one way or another.
Someone with nefarious intentions is going to take advantage of that one way or another.
Assuming this to be true, voting for representatives to force divestment seems like an exceedingly libertarian-esque solution. Especially comparatively.
Again, if we were talking about some privately-owned, "tightly held", domestic 'mom and pop' operation, sure. Otherwise, it seems like if we can Steele Dossier/Russian Pee Tapes/"kick Russian spies off Twitter, censor the Great Barrington Declaration, raid an ex-President's home because of "stolen documents" without anyone at any of several points swinging from a rope, saying elected representatives of both parties, especially when presented as though it were really only one party, seems like a pretty hard "BOAF SIDEZ!" reach.
Sure. My comment was more "fuck it, if Americans are this retarded, do they deserve anything better?". Which isn't my usual outlook, but it's been one of those days.
In April of 1945 Americans recalled Nuremberg rallies and pre-Trump Hitlerfests whenever bleeding-hearts whined that that was then and NOW they are the innocent victims of collateral damage. Similar observations of Japan’s past performance brought little sympathy for those who yielded to social pressure weaponized into apologias for initiation of deadly force. Remember that if large areas near where you live suddenly crust over with Trinitite.
I avoid TikTok the way I avoid Faecebook, Xitter et alii. But as newsprint is replaced I might start reading it the same way I read translated Pravda at $25 a pop back when Ronnie and Nancy were croaking "Just say Jesus" as the stock market collapsed. The Looter Kleptocracy will never get another vote or dollar out of me. Far better investment to rid the LP of Jesus Caucus Nationalsocialists and resume the work begun with John Hospers and Tonie Nathan in 1972.
Brainwashed globalist cucks like ENB cannot find the reasoning skills to understand that the threat from a particular platform is not a free speech issue.
Imagine if the Chinese people and/or their representatives could vote the CCP out of corporate ownership and the Chinese and even the American Media were crying "No! You're destroying free speech!"
Yeah, we all know, Tik Tok is a threat to national security while the main stream media remains the main outlet for government propaganda, while it distorts facts and obfuscates the truth and in general practices hypocrisy on a grand scale. With pencil necked media hacks like Taylor Lorenze or Joe Scarborough or the wastes of oxygen on The View with their gang of philosophical geniuses, is it any wonder that Americans are tired of being fed the rubbish, lies and outright propaganda from D.C. such as babies being tossed from incubators and Putin is responsible for WW III and so on and so forth.
It's getting so bad for them that the WaPo is laying off hundreds of its staff as has the L.A. Times did just a few months ago. maybe it's because people are waking up to the fact the MSM cannot be trusted to report the truth in a factual manner nor to inject its own biases into the narrative.
The MSM is responsible for their own demise, not Tik Tok or any other online news outlet. Not Jeff Rense, or Alex Jones, or Ron Paul or Tom Woods. They have themselves to blame. They have betrayed and lost the trust of the American people.
So they attack an online service and blame all their problems for it.
The bi-partisan attempt to kill the 1st Amendment. And don't kid yourselves; the left has already been busted with their pants down dictating the press. It's probably the very reason Biden signed the bill; so TikTok can be dictated as well.
https://x.com/RdHdSteppeson/status/1800205095814013164?t=-0PWU9Z4kgUeQwGERvGCDQ&s=19
This chart is the most important one to understanding what “liberalism” is.
Liberalism is a specifically white behavior, one of hatred of the in-group. That is its defining feature, and why in essence only white people are actual liberals. Everyone else thats part of the left-liberal coalition are merely advancing their or self and ethnic interests. This fact must be understood.
There are no groups that are liberal before they are their ethnic identity, though the reasons for this are varied. In many cases it’s simply impossible; most non-whites cannot actually divorce their ethnic identity that way even if they wanted. Moreover, because liberalism is, paradoxically, a white identity itself its fundamentally not compatible with non-whites dissolving into it that way.
Because liberalism requires the Outgroup to define itself as the Ingroup, other ethnicity could not absorb into it effectively anyway unless they adopted being white first. Ironically, this actually leads them more to right wing and conservative positions, the ‘based black’ phenomenon in which an ethnic minority has less ethnic attachment. In short, a non-white ‘liberal’ is actually more a conservative usually (with one notable but major exception.)
Only white liberals are, in practice, actually liberal and they are, ultimately, the actual foe that has to be defeated. The coalition exists due to them. This is not to absolve any other group, nor assign pure culpability, merely that without white liberals the entire left-liberal-progressive faction cannot function.
As an aside, much could be said about the utterly unique position of asians here. Asians are fundamentally alien to western political norms and thinking of them in it creates issues.
They simply don’t map properly, though their model is, in essence, a form of the white one; the liberal asian has less in-group preference, though still positive. This unique dynamic explains why asians are always an odd element of the left-liberal coalition.
The tl;dr is that liberalism is hating white people. Thats the defining feature. (Hating normal people is communism.)
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Things like this would be a lot easier to assess if people would define what they mean by "liberal". I have no idea what kind of political beliefs are classed as "liberal" in a survey like that. Is it just self identification?
TikTok Ban: Not Just Bad for Lifestyle Influencers or Leftists
BASEDPolitics is a nonprofit media organization run by Polumbo, Hannah Cox, and Jack Hunter. Its goal is to introduce young people "to the ideas of free market capitalism and individual liberty."
Hey, Reason, you know I'm never, ever going to let this go. Perhaps you should put Hannah Cox and Taylor Lorenz into a locked room and see who emerges alive?
So many of the nation's problems could be solved if we brought back celebrity deathmatch.
But live action this time.
Running Man, baby! Taylor Lorenz vs Subzero! Who you got?
Sub Zero is now plain zero.
Well, Ben Richards was a mean motherfucker.
Fuck that. Leave the door locked. Forever. Call it Schrodinger's Woke or something. They're both alive (or not) forever because we never bother to look and collapse the waveform.
Oddly the article doesn't mention that one of the major party presidential candidates has promised not to ban TikTok. Can you guess which one?
https://x.com/alx/status/1798967997065003519
You just want to do porn on it, ENB.
Nambla Boy is back, pining for Trump as usual... Sad.
You’re now pining for Trump?
I mean, you don't need to announce it LIB. We can all see you're back.
It sucks that the support for this suit is coming from (anything but-) Based Politics. Still, I guess, take allies where you can find them. We know where the precedent of the TikTok ban winds up going. Of course, I wouldn't be too surprised if Cox and Polumbo were actually okay with that.
The article's premise is wrong. Mystical bigot republicans are the opposite of interested in truthful communication. Back in Gamaliel Harding's day one paper got the government contract to publish notices. When Dems were in office, the Dem paper got the job and larded on endorsements for their candidates, and verse a vicer. If irritating, a mob of January-6-type goons would set fire to the paper. That changed with the Web. Flammable papers are history, and the Musk-Xitter ploy like to help GOP bigots beat up girls simply tanked Tesla stock. Tesla stock is converging on zero.
Thanks for proving some people's point up thread.
I banned TikTok from my phone. Quite happy knowing nothin about it.