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TikTok

TikTok's Got Trouble

It starts with "T' and that rhymes with "B" and that stands for "ban."

Thomas W. Hazlett | 5.18.2024 7:00 AM

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A social media app from China is said to seduce our teenagers in ways that American platforms can only dream of. Gen Z has already wasted half a young lifetime on videos of pranks, makeup tutorials, and babies dubbed to talk like old men. Now computer sorcerers employed by a hostile government allegedly have worse in store. Prohibit this "digital fentanyl," the argument goes, or the Republic may be lost.

And so President Joe Biden signed the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act of 2024, which requires the China-based company ByteDance to either spin-off TikTok or watch it be banned. Separating the company from the app would supposedly solve the other problem frequently blamed on TikTok: the circle linking U.S. users' personal data to the Chinese Communist Party. The loop has already been cut, TikTok argues, because American users' data are now stored with Oracle in Texas. That's about as believable as those TikTok baby talk vignettes, retorts Congress.

If Congress has got the goods on the Communists, do tell! Those Homeland Security threat assessment color charts from the 2000s are tan, rested, and ready. But slapping a shutdown on a company because of mere rumors—that really is an ugly import from China.

The people pushing for TikTok regulation argue that the app's problems go far further than the challenges raised when kids burn their brains on Snap, Insta/Facebook, Twitter/X, Pinterest, YouTube/Google, and the rest of the big blue Internet. In The Music Man, Henry Hill swept a placid town into frenzy with his zippy rendition of the darkness that might lurk in an amusement parlor. Today we're told that TikTok is foreign-owned and addictive, that its algorithms may favor anti-American themes, and that it makes U.S. users sitting ducks for backdoor data heists.

Though the bill outlaws U.S. access to TikTok if ByteDance cannot assign the platform to a non-Chinese enterprise within 9–12 months (which the company says it will not do), prediction markets give the ban only a 24 percent chance of kicking in by May 2025. Those low odds reflect, in part, the high probability that the law will be found unconstitutional. ByteDance has already filed suit. It is supported by the fact that First Amendment rights extend to speakers of foreign origin, as U.S. courts have repeatedly explained.

The Qatar-based Al Jazeera bought an entire American cable channel, Current TV—part owner Al Gore pocketed $100 million for the sale in 2013—to bring its slant to 60 million U.S. households. Free speech reigned and the market ruled: Al Jazeera got only a tiny audience share and exited just a few years later.

Writing in The Free Press, Rep. Michael Gallagher (R–Wisc.)—co-sponsor of the TikTok bill—claims that because the Chinese Communist Party allegedly "uses TikTok to push its propaganda and censor views," the United States must move to block. This endorsement of the Chinese "governing system" evinces no awareness of the beauty of our own. We can combat propaganda with our free press (including The Free Press). Of greatest help is that the congressman singles out the odious views that the Chinese potentates push: on Tiananmen, Muslims, LGBTQ issues, Tibet, and elsewise.

Our federal jurists will do well to focus on Gallagher's opening salvo versus TikTok: "A growing number of Americans rely on it for their news. Today, TikTok is the top search engine for more than half of Gen Z." This underscores the fact that his new rules are not intended to be "content neutral."

Rather than shouting about potential threats, TikTok's foes should report any actual mendacities or violations of trust. Where criminal—as with illicitly appropriating users' data—such misbehavior should be prosecuted by the authorities. Yet here the National Security mavens have often gone AWOL.

New York Times reporter David Sanger, in The Perfect Weapon (2018), provides spectacular context. In about the summer of 2014, U.S. intelligence found that a large state actor—presumed by officials to be China—had hacked U.S.-based servers and stolen data for 22 million current and former U.S. government employees. More than 4 million of these victims lost highly personal information, including Social Security numbers, medical records, fingerprints, and security background checks. The U.S. database had been left unencrypted. It was a flaw so sensational that, when the theft was finally discovered, it was noticed that the exiting data was (oddly) encrypted, an upgrade the hackers had conscientiously supplied so as to carry out their burgle with stealth.

Here's the killer: Sanger reports that "the administration never leveled with the 22 million Americans whose data were lost—except by accident." The victims simply got a note that "some of their information might have been lost" and were offered credit-monitoring subscriptions. This was itself a bit of a ruse; the hack was identified as a hostile intelligence operation because the lifted data was not being sold on the Dark Web.

Hence, a vast number of U.S. citizens—including undercover agents—have presumably been compromised by China. This has ended careers, and continues to threaten victims, without compensation or even real disclosure.

The accidental government acknowledgment came in a slip of the tongue by National Security Chief James Clapper: "You kind of have to salute the Chinese for what they did." At a 2016 hearing just weeks later, Sen. John McCain (R–Ariz.) drilled Clapper on the breach, demanding to know why the attack had gone unreported. Clapper's answer? "Because people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks." An outraged McCain could scarcely believe it. "So it's OK for them to steal our secrets that are most important, because we live in a glass house. That is astounding."

While keeping the American public in the dark about real breaches, U.S. officials raise the specter of a potential breach to trample free speech. The TikTok ban is Fool's Gold. The First Amendment is pure genius. Let's keep one of them.

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Thomas W. Hazlett is Hugh H. Macaulay Endowed Professor of Economics at Clemson University. His most recent book is The Political Spectrum: The Tumultuous Liberation of Wireless Technology, from Herbert Hoover to the Smart Phone (Yale University Press).

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  1. Longtobefree   1 year ago

    I guess it never occurs to the republicans, and the democrats don't want it said out loud, but those tiktok users already hate America; because of years and years of public education.
    Either they accept the propaganda, or they are disgusted by a country that puts out all that propaganda.

    1. mtrueman   1 year ago

      "but those tiktok users already hate America;"

      Hating America has never been a problem. But a platform that hosts content that puts Israel in a bad light crosses a red line. Look at Al Jazeera, for a recent example.

      1. MrMxyzptlk   1 year ago

        What the litteral fuck?

        Putting Israel in a bad light crosses the red line? Israel does that often enough by their own actions. You realize their air force bombed the fuck out of an American warship. The USS Liberty. No shit. They really did. If that doesn't put them in a bad light then I've no idea what it would take.

        1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

          "bombed the fuck out"

          Do words have meaning?

        2. mtrueman   1 year ago

          "Putting Israel in a bad light crosses the red line?"

          It can get you fired if you work at CNN or Playboy, for example. Isn't losing your livelihood red line enough for you?

    2. JesseAz   1 year ago

      Pretty sure the Republicans know about the schools. See Florida and Virginia.

      1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

        The GOPe and BBB Republicans are absolutely fine with it. Concessions must be made. That’s what private education is for.

        It’s the dirty plebs that insist on kicking up a fuss.

  2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

    TikTok is the best way for Americans to feign outrage about things like the Harrison Butker 'Iron My Shirt, Bitch' speech he gave at a graduation ceremony last weekend. Without fail conservatives praised him and progressives were horrified.

    Excellent trolling, sir.

    1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

      Envy doesn’t look good on you.

      1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

        You could see the green from here.

        When poor Plugly calls black politicians and judges “shoe-shine boys” and “lawn jockeys”, he just gets called racist. Nobody makes a tiktok.

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

          It is not trolling to ridicule Big Government Conservatives on a libertarian site.

          Was John Stossel trolling when he lambasted Donnie for doubling the size of the Swamp?

          1. Chumby   1 year ago

            Why is there a 2 after your name?

            1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

              I think it's because he posted child porn

            2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

              Soon to be Sarah Palin's Buttplug 3, if his current trajectory is any indicator.

          2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

            "It is not trolling to ridicule Big Government Conservatives on a libertarian site."

            It isn't, but you never ridicule Big Government Conservatives. You've shilled for all the warmongering Romneys, Ryans, McCains, Cheneys, ad nauseam, that there are.

            Anyway, explain to everyone here how this is just you ridiculing big government, and not being a total Klansman instead:

            Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2 3 mins ago
            Flag Comment Mute User
            Uncle Clarence has had his hand out for over 20 years.
            GIMME DAT WHITIE MONEY!
            That fucking cop lover.

            Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2 2 hours ago
            Flag Comment Mute User
            Taking on Katanji Brown Jackson for lowest IQ affirmative action hire
            Uncle Clarence a candidate.

            Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2 19 mins ago
            Flag Comment Mute User
            Sandy, I had a genuine fear that a Senator Walker would be shucking and jiving us good liberty-loving Georgians every day.

            Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2 1 hour ago
            Flag Comment Mute User
            Many have asked for an update to the Buttplug Horse Race:
            Tim Scott 400-1 Whuffo Bro? Whuffo is you in dis race fo, bro?

            Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2 2 hours ago
            Flag Comment Mute User
            Dude, I am from the South. You can’t troll me on race.
            Do you remember Spermin’ Herman Cain? He sounded like a slave extra from Song of the South.

            Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2 1 hour ago
            Flag Comment Mute User
            No, you’re a fucking snowflake who only gets offended when one of your Lawn Jockeys is criticized.

            Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2 28 mins ago
            Flag Comment Mute User
            Groveling like a shoe-shine boy, Tim Scott humiliates himself for Fatass Donnie.

            Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2 38 mins ago
            Flag Comment Mute User
            SE Cupp is a conservative commentator who is ashamed of Tim Scott’s groveling ‘Happy slave” act concerning Donnie.

            Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2 3 hours ago
            Flag Comment Mute User
            Tim Scott’s Vice Presidential Debasement Is Almost Complete
            Debasement? Are you for real? This smacks of racism.
            Tim Scott’s twerking and jiving is just him feeling that ole-timey religion.

            Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2 7 hours ago
            Flag Comment Mute User
            Fact checking Tim Scott – Trump’s black friend/shine boy:

            Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2 1 hour ago
            Flag Comment Mute User
            How many little lawn jockeys are in your yard? I bet it looks like a scene from a Tarzan movie out there.

            Links available upon request, folks.

          3. R Mac   1 year ago

            This has nothing to do with your comment. You are somehow getting dumber.

    2. R Mac   1 year ago

      More lies from the pedo.

  3. Chumby   1 year ago

    After having stopped the flow of taxpayer money to a bandera worshipping regime in eastern Europe, following his success in sleuthing how covid came about, and after having eliminated the deluge of illegal aliens waltzing into the nation exacerbating the strain on the unsustainable welfare state and contributing to the high crime rates, the second greatest president ever and winner or the cleanest election had little else left to do other than put his finger on the pulse of the American youths to see what time wasters they indulge in. Folks may soon be brandon him the best ever.

    1. Rick James   1 year ago

      illegal aliens waltzing into the nation exacerbating the strain on the unsustainable welfare state

      Top libertarians, and I do mean top... libertarians have told me that we should agree to disagree on the border and thus leave it as wide open as Stormy Daniels, but engage in the process of dismantling the welfare state.

      What's also interesting is they suggest this dismantlizationing of the welfare state immediately after claiming that immigrants don't use it and in fact, contribute mightily to its coffers.

      1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

        Speaking of immigrants, Stormy Daniels' husband (either he's a massive cuck, or someone who doesn't mind buying used cars from the discount lot) says they're going to leave the country. Does anyone really care? Good riddance, and don't let the door hit you on the way out.

        1. mad.casual   1 year ago

          (either he’s a massive cuck, or someone who doesn’t mind buying used cars from the discount lot)

          He's almost certainly in the industry. A dynamic so devoid of reason and soul I'll never understand it. Like drowning in milk and asking for someone to throw you a cow.

      2. Zeb   1 year ago

        Nobody claims that immigrants don't use welfare services. The claim I see is that they don't use it at higher rates than US citizens. And there is nothing interesting about libertarians wanting to dismantle the welfare state as that is a pretty basic libertarianism and is a desirable goal whether or not immigrants generate significant welfare costs.

        1. mad.casual   1 year ago

          The claim I see is that they don’t use it at higher rates than US citizens.

          Thanks for selling it Jonathan Gruber! The claim I saw is that if we liked our doctor, we could keep our doctor.

          Don't let anybody say I called you a dishonest liar, Zeb. You fucking dumbass.

  4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    Now do the opium wars.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

      Why do you think the ccp is flooding the US with fentanal

  5. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    Anyway, what year does the Butlerian Jihad start?

    1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      Next Tuesday. Bring a jacket and a snack in case it goes into the lunch hour.

  6. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

    Good read. Thanks Thomas.

    1. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

      Indeed. Thomas Hazlett is one of the OG Reason Libertarians from way back.

      I got a kick out of this:

      In The Music Man, Henry Hill swept a placid town into frenzy with his zippy rendition of the darkness that might lurk in an amusement parlor. Today we’re told that TikTok is foreign-owned and addictive, that its algorithms may favor anti-American themes, and that it makes U.S. users sitting ducks for backdoor data heists.

      Sooooo…If the Feds don’t ban TikTok, will kids start making videos where they say things like: “So’s your old man!”?

      Will the kids start doing dances to: “Pick-a-little-talk-a-little-pick-a-little-talk-a-little-cheep-cheep-cheep!”??

      And worst yet…Will kids start talking about BALZAC???
      🙂
      😉

  7. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

    Meanwhile. After rockin in the free world, Blinken hangs out at a Nazi pizzeria.
    https://twitter.com/RealAlexRubi/status/1791176074564366474?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1791176074564366474%7Ctwgr%5Ee544a959d094b6b11ffce7617efaa272938c785e%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Frevolver.news%2F2024%2F05%2Fsecretary-of-state-blinken-eats-dinner-at-ukraine-pizza-joint-with-interesting-decorations%2F
    "Secretary of State Antony Blinken joins a war criminal and wanted murderer, and an avowed fascist, on list of Americans to visit a Nazi-inspired pizzeria in Ukraine"
    "What Western media isn't telling you is that it's decorated with Nazi symbols and pictures from the Odessa trade unions house massacre where Ukrainian Nazis burned civilians alive in 2014"

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

      Here's a description of the Odessa massacre. If you've got the stomach for it.
      https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/the-odessa-trade-union-massacre-ten-years-later/

      1. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

        "Peoplesworld.org"? Sounds and looks like a Commie Rag Web Site to me.

    2. Chumby   1 year ago

      I imagine after Odessa gets liberated, that location will be converted into a memorial.

    3. mtrueman   1 year ago

      The Jewish Anti Defamation League gave Ukraine's Nazis a clean bill of health to Ukraine's fascistic Azov Brigades. Are they Jew haters? Of course, but they support Israel whole heartedly, so no problem.

    4. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      And then you have Democrats attacking Jews in the streets and breaking their shop windows, and shrieking for their elimination at every college campus.

      But look over there! It’s a guy the SPLC dubbed racist because he thinks illegal immigration is a problem. He’s the real monster.

      1. mtrueman   1 year ago

        "And then you have Democrats attacking Jews in the streets"

        You'd almost think there's a war going on!

        1. R Mac   1 year ago

          That quote gave you an erection, didn’t it?

          1. mtrueman   1 year ago

            And here's you thinking genocide was bad!

            1. JesseAz   1 year ago

              What genocide?

              How much in food aid and medical care has Israel given to this genocide?

              1. mtrueman   1 year ago

                "What genocide?"

                Why, the genocide the democrats are perpetrating against the good Jews of America. You have other genocides in mind?

                1. Chumby   1 year ago

                  Progressives have been after Ben Shapiro for some time.

                  1. mtrueman   1 year ago

                    No wonder. Ben is not one of America's good Jews. Ben is America's best Jew.

                    1. Chumby   1 year ago

                      I know Adam Sandler weighed in on this, but do you think it is possible that OJ Simpson was a Jew and that his death was a result of murder? Just throwing it out there. I know; far-fetched to think that OJ would ever end up involved in a murder.

                    2. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      What is a good Jew and a bad one?

                    3. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                      Easy, Jesse.

                      If you want to determine if a Jew is bad, there are indicators to look for. First, examine the texture of the Jew. A good Jew should have a firm and slightly springy texture. If it feels mushy or soft, it may be a sign that the Jew is bad.

                    4. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      But some genocides call for extra ripe jews on the genocide.

                    5. Chumby   1 year ago

                      Is the jews worth the squeeze?

            2. R Mac   1 year ago

              You didn’t deny it I see.

    5. Chumby   1 year ago

      Wouldn’t be surprised if they are most proud of their ovens.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        You know who else was proud of their ovens?

        1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

          U.S. Steel?

        2. R Mac   1 year ago

          Paula Dean?

        3. Wizzle Bizzle   1 year ago

          Me and every other boy-experiencing-genderlessness who owned an Easy Bake Oven in the 80's.

        4. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

          Raytheon?

          1. JesseAz   1 year ago

            Hughes, bought by Raytheon, is famous for microwaves not ovens.

            1. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

              https://www.retromobe.com/2017/06/raytheon-radarange-worlds-first.html

        5. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

          Barbara Hale of her Amana Radarrange?
          https://youtu.be/EP95USXnkM8?si=DR7hDPwgObey1XYL
          🙂
          😉

        6. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

          housewives in the first half of the 20th century?

    6. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

      A Nazi pizzaria??? But tomato sauce comes from The Americas, from peoples deemed by the Nazis to be "Natural slave mud peoples".

      And the group in the Tweet was C4, not C14 as mentioned in the video.

      And the makers of the video intimate that the Gen-Z campus Pro-Hamas protesters somehow aren't Antisemites. Huh???

      As despicable as Neo-Nazis are, there's too much here that doesn't pass the stink test. Must investigate further...

      1. mtrueman   1 year ago

        "The Americas, from peoples deemed by the Nazis to be “Natural slave mud peoples”

        Hitler's favorite author was Karl May, who wrote novels set in the American west. Native Americans were portrayed in a positive light as was friendship between natives and Europeans, and even Europeans who had 'gone native' ie adopted native customs, values and life ways.

        1. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

          Well, Hitler’s “Race Science” was based in part on on Racist Anthropologists and Eugenicists in the U.S. such as Madison Grant and Lothrop Stoddard, who didn’t have a positive view of Native Americans.

          Hitler’s love of Horse Opera Harlequins didn’t make a damn bit of difference about The Holocaust, Mr. Watermelon Rickshaw Nazi Boy!

          1. mtrueman   1 year ago

            "Well, Hitler’s “Race Science” was based in part on on Racist Anthropologists"

            Hitler was guided by emotions and feelings, and not any science or even pseudo science. You give Hitler far too much credit.

            "Hitler’s love of Horse Opera Harlequins didn’t make a damn bit of difference about The Holocaust"

            I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. You asserted Hitler disdained native Americans as mud people, together with gratuitous insults, and I asserted a sneaking admiration as reflected in his favorite reading matter. Unless you have anything of interest to add to our discussion, with or without your tiresome insults, let's consider the matter closed, shall we?

    7. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

      Oh, and one of the insignia near the gun on the wall was the logo for Ghostbusters.

      So Dr. Venkman, Ray Stantz, and Egon Spengler are Nazis? Is Winston Zeddermore with The Nation of Islam?

      And if Blinken was here, where were his partners Winken and Nod. It's been 4 years since Biden got in and I still haven't seen them little fuckers!

      And hey! What about Scarecrow's brain???
      🙂
      😉
      There are simply too many loose ends here to know what the Hell I should think...except that good freedom-loving people in both Ukraine and Russia deserve better.

      1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

        RealClearInvestigations has a really good, somewhat long article on the last decade of Ukrainian history and Biden's fingerprints all over it. Additionally, something I hadn't realized, is the Nazi associated parties served in the cabinet of Ukraine following the 2014 coup, which was not supported by the majority of Ukrainian per recent research, it was either a wash for support or actually opposed by the majority of Ukrainian. Further, turns out Zelinsky was already using laws to remove his political opposition (banning his competitors and seizing networks that favored his competitors) before the Russian invasion (actually before the Russians even began their buildup, the buildup began after the seizures and, at the time, Russia justified the buildup as a result of Zelinsky's actions) while polling showed he was behind his most likely competition, and that not only did the CIA/State Department know of it, they endorsed it. So much for defending democracy

        1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

          Here's the link: http://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2024/04/30/what_10_years_of_us_meddling_in_ukraine_have_wrought_spoiler_alert_it_wasnt_democracy_1027411

          1. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

            Linkie no workie.

            One thing I'm curious about: If Ukraine is so eat-up and chock-a-block with Neo-Nazis--as Putin and his Putineers here like to allege--then why haven't these Neo-Nazis attempted to start a Hololcaust 2.0?

            I mean they now have $Billions of U.S. Dollars and €Billions of Euros in high-tech weaponry, they've had 2 and a half years of fog-of-war in which to perpetrate a second Holocaust, starting in Ukraine with their Jews and spreading outward from there. A Neo-Nazi Ukraine could perhaps serve as a not-so-distant benefactor of Hamas, Hezbollah, and Islamic Jihad in their war on Israel.

            So why hasn't it happened ?

            Until someone can explain that, I don't know if the Neo-Nazi problem in Ukraine is any worse than it is in the U.S. Military (which, of course, needs a ranks purge, but doesn't condemn the U.S. Military as a whole.)

            Inquiring minds want to know...

            1. mtrueman   1 year ago

              "So why hasn’t it happened ?"

              Nazis hate Jews but love Israel. It seems paradoxical but it's been that way since Hitler was paying German Jews to relocate to Palestine back in the 1930s.

              "A Neo-Nazi Ukraine could perhaps serve as a not-so-distant benefactor of Hamas, Hezbollah, and Islamic Jihad in their war on Israel. "
              Add in Iran, and Russia is already taking up that role. Ukraine is firmly on the side of America and her friends like Britain, Israel and the rest.

              1. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

                Even if what you said about Nazis loving Israel is true, WHICH IT'S NOT, it doesn't have a Goddamn thing to do with what I asked!

                And why would Nazis support Israel and simultanrously support pogroms against Jews in surrounding Middle Eastern lands?

                Fuck Off, lying, dumbass Watermelon Rickshaw Nazi Boy!

                1. mtrueman   1 year ago

                  "Even if what you said about Nazis loving Israel is true"

                  Israel didn't exist while the Nazis were in power. It is true the Nazis hated the Jews and were anxious to rid themselves of these unwelcome aliens. To that end they were offering money to German Jews to relocate to Palestine. They werre also offering German Jews exit visas in the hopes they would emigrate elsewhere. Trouble was other countries weren't accepting them and the British kept a tight lid on Palestine. You can read about it if you are curious.

      2. Longtobefree   1 year ago

        "What about Scarecrow’s brain???"

        On a four year loan to Kween Kamala.

  8. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

    Huh. Those wacky Ukrainian Nazis make friends everywhere they go.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/germany-deports-7-ukrainian-soldiers-displaying-nazi-symbols
    Germany Deports 7 Ukrainian Soldiers For Displaying Nazi Symbols
    Among other several other questions raising concerns over Ukrainian extremism, the AfD asked if Ukrainian soldiers training in Germany had been found displaying extremist symbols, and if so, "what, if anything, has the federal government done about it."
    In a four-page response posted to the German Bundestag website, the government said (per Google translate), "Seven such cases were identified during training conducted by the Bundeswehr for the Ukrainian armed forces." The transgressing Ukrainians were "repatriated" to Ukraine.
    The government added that German soldiers who are charged with training Ukrainians are trained to recognize right-wing extremist symbols and to address them. In addition, upon their arrival in Germany, Ukrainian soldiers are given "instruction regarding Nazi symbolism."
    In its inquiry, AfD highlighted Ukraine's Azov Regiment, "which is classified by many experts as right-wing extremist and uses the Wolfsangel (a symbol of several SS units, banned in the Federal Republic of Germany) as a symbol."

    1. Rick James   1 year ago

      The interesting part of that story is that Germany discovered it has borders.

      1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

        Raping and pillaging Nazis = bad

        Raping and pillaging Jihadis = shut up racist

    2. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

      Interesting that the AfD, who the left loves to portray as Nazis themselves, are the ones to call this out and bring it out into the open. Once again proving that Germans love David Hasselhoff.

    3. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

      Couldn't this just mean that different Neo-Nazi factions are in an interneccine war to cancel each other, in hopes of being the global leader in Neo-Nazism?

  9. mtrueman   1 year ago

    Tiktok or Al Jazeera? Either way, there ought to be a law.

    "Israeli Knesset member and former Mossad deputy chief Ram Ben-Barak said the ongoing war in Gaza is “futile”, asserting that Israel is on the losing end and facing economic collapse.
    “This war lacks a clear objective, and it’s evident that we’re unequivocally losing it,” Ben-Barak told Israeli public radio.
    “We are forced to engage in fighting in the same areas and end up losing more soldiers. We’re also facing setbacks on the international stage, our relations with the US deteriorating significantly, and the Israeli economy in decline,” he said.
    “Show me one thing we have succeeded in.”

    1. JohnZ   1 year ago

      I could care less. The only thing that might be of concern is the statement made by a previous Israeli leader , that, "if Israel goes, so does the rest of the world." You can take that anyway you wish but since that nasty little zionist state of Talmudic worshippers has nuclear weapons , they would have no regrets about nuking the planet, just so they can rule over the ashes.
      The worst thing to ever happen was for Israel to have nukes. JFK tried to stop it but the **** had him offed.

      1. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

        Israel is the least religiously-observant of any nation in the Middle East. And are Nukes in the hands of Iran or Saudi Arabia any better?

        And Izzat chu, Herr Misek?

        1. mtrueman   1 year ago

          It's the Israeli war cabinet we have to worry about. It's filled with god bothering lunatics. Netanyanhu, thank god, is one of the saner ones, a grubby, self serving career politician.

          1. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

            And nobody is "God-bothering" because God does not exist to be bothered, M'Bitch!

            Fuck Off, Watermelon Rickshaw Nazi Boy!

            1. mtrueman   1 year ago

              "God does not exist"

              In that case, the cabinet is more lunatic that even I first imagined.

  10. JeffsNarrativeCrushed   1 year ago

    Suicide risk for transgender health even with the left, WPATH, and forced acceptance increases risk 12x for those who commit to surgery.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/healthcare/3007980/new-study-finds-12-fold-higher-risk-of-suicide-attempt-for-adult-transgender-patients/

    The study, published in April, found that individuals who had undergone gender transition surgery had a 12-fold higher suicide attempt risk than those who had not, a statistic that sparked significant attention online Friday.

    1. Chumby   1 year ago

      Apparently some pf the women have the balls to go through with it.

      1. mad.casual   1 year ago

        If a trans woman kills themselves in the first 9 mos. is that a suicide, abortion, miscarriage, or all 3?

        Am I being too heartless about clumps of cells that decided to kill itself/themselves? [checks pulse] Nope.

    2. mtrueman   1 year ago

      "The study..."

      I'm not surprised by the findings. I'd be curious to compare the suicide rates of those who've had the surgery vs those who'd wanted to have the surgery but didn't/couldn't.

      1. Chumby   1 year ago

        When they lay to rest the lifeless body of a tranny that took his own life, do they reunite him with the parts previously surgically removed for him to have better cosplayed being a woman? Maybe? Maybe not? Perhaps it could go both ways.

        1. mtrueman   1 year ago

          There's a Japanese movie, Departures (2008) that explores this question. It's a coming of age drama about a young man beginning a career as a mortician and the cadavers he encounters.

          1. R Mac   1 year ago

            Your breadth of knowledge about trannies is unusually wide.

            1. mtrueman   1 year ago

              Thanks for your kind words. Departures is a movie about a young man who becomes a mortician, almost by accident, as it's a stigmatized profession in Japan. He encounters many cadavers and their relatives throughout the movie. One is a suicide, if memory serves, who was a man but wishes to be buried as a woman. You can imagine the fuss and hilarity that ensues as the mortician tries to honor the last wishes of the deceased and the family who is horrified at the perversion of it all. I recommend a viewing - you can download it if you wish - if you are curious about Chumby's queries.

              1. Chumby   1 year ago

                The pronouns became was/were.

                1. mtrueman   1 year ago

                  It's a fine movie and I'm sure you'd enjoy it.

                  "The pronouns became was/were."

                  You wish. It's a Japanese film with Japanese characters speaking Japanese to each other. If you are confused with modern American pronoun use, you will freak out with Japanese. They change according to level of formality and the sex, age, social status and dialect of the person addressed, and same again for the person doing the addressing. There are also archaic variants with equal complexity. Japanese students spend their years at elementary school mastering the system of honorifics and pronouns. It's not an easy task, I promise you.

                  One refinement is kore, sore, are. In English we have to make do with this and that. In Japanese we have kore to refer to an object close to the speaker, sore for something close to the listener, and are for something distant from both. Isn't that wonderful?

                  You might prefer Chinese, which is much simpler. He she and it are all denoted by the same word, 'ta' with a high '1' tone, but the characters are different.

                  1. Chumby   1 year ago

                    I was referring to the trannies that successfully carried out their suicides.

                    1. mtrueman   1 year ago

                      Given your interest in suicide and trannies, it sounds like Departures is right up your alley. It's a nice, rather slow movie. The trannies are not the main part of the film though. It's about a young man, failing a career in the arts, and taking up a position as a mortician, by accident. He gradually grows into the role and sees the importance of it.

                    2. Chumby   1 year ago

                      You are projecting.

                    3. mtrueman   1 year ago

                      "You are projecting."

                      In that case don't let your lack of interest in trannies and suicide prevent you from enjoying this fine film. You can fast forward through those uninteresting bits and not miss anything essential to the plot.

      2. JesseAz   1 year ago

        I mean it is in the news article.

        had a 12-fold higher suicide attempt risk than those who had not,

        Difficulty reading or formulating a narrative?

        1. mtrueman   1 year ago

          "had a 12-fold higher suicide attempt risk than those who had not"

          It makes sense to compare those who've had the surgery with those who may have wanted it but didn't. 'Those who had not' is too broad and includes new born infants who are unaware of their sexuality or the very old for who the question is no longer important.

          "Difficulty reading or formulating a narrative?"

          Suggesting more study is needed.

          1. JesseAz   1 year ago

            So go fund the study to find your narrative.

            1. mtrueman   1 year ago

              I'm better at suggesting than funding.

              The point is if you want to understand the efficacy of a medical intervention, find a group which shares the same underlying condition is meant to address. Then compare those in the group who have undergone the intervention with those who haven't. It's a little tricky and difficult to understand, perhaps, but to compare those who have undergone the intervention with everybody else, regardless of whether or not they suffer the underlying condition is of very limited value. I hope that clears it up for you, and you see the light.

              1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                It sounds like your p value hunting in your pursuit of The Science to protect a favored narrative.

                Seeing as medicaid, armed forces, and many corporations pay for the surgery, an intelligent person could assume the data you ask for doesn’t matter. But those with a political narrative to defend will suggest any continuation of data analysis as a form of sea lioning.

                Schizophrenia also doesn't make a person better by telling them yes you see the people they see.

                1. mtrueman   1 year ago

                  I can see this is a sensitive subject for you. Perhaps we can come back to it at a later time when you're ready.

                  "Schizophrenia also doesn’t make a person better by telling them yes you see the people they see. "

                  Neither does suicide.

    3. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

      Okay back up a minute. Are you saying that mentally ill people who voluntarily mutilate their bodies are more likely to attempt suicide than the general population? Wow. I never would have guessed. Maybe somebody should look into that or something.

  11. mtrueman   1 year ago

    "In The Music Man, Henry Hill swept a placid town into frenzy..."

    Lies!
    Henry Hill was a real life mobster played by Ray Liotta in Scorcese's Goodfellas. Harold Hill was the fictitious con man in the 1957 Broadway musical The Music Man.

    1. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

      Fiction in literature and plays does not equate to lies, which I have tried repeatedly to explain to your fellow Nazi Herr Misek, Mister Watermelon Rickshaw Nazi Boy!

      1. mtrueman   1 year ago

        I'm glad you asked. 'Till There Was You' from the Music Man was sung by Paul McCartney on the second Beatles album. A schmaltzy surprise, perhaps, but their manager thought that it would round out their repertoire and show their versatility.

    2. MrMxyzptlk   1 year ago

      You're wrapped a little too tight.

      1. mtrueman   1 year ago

        The family name, Hill, I have no problem with. The given names are incorrect.

  12. Rick James   1 year ago

    Why did the Chinese government reject the sale of Tik Tok? I was told there wasn't any real, meaningful connection between Tik Tok and the CCP?

    1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      They were standing up for freedom or something.

      1. mad.casual   1 year ago

        LOL. Flee speech!

    2. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

      There is no such thing as a private big business in China. They all must be in partnerships with the government. Selling Tik Tok to function as an entirely private company would be unacceptable to them.

      1. Rick James   1 year ago

        But slapping a shutdown on a company because of mere rumors—that really is an ugly import from China.

        But our international man of mystery and Reason contributor says it's just rumors.

      2. mtrueman   1 year ago

        "There is no such thing as a private big business in China."

        That's partly a cultural difference. All else being equal, Chinese prefer self employment and owning their own business, even if it a modest one, over the indignities and humiliations of subservience to a boss. Perhaps this is different for most Americans. Another difference is the Chinese preference for a position in the civil service, ie government employment. This goes back over a thousand years with the imperial exams. The tests were so useful to the state that invading Mongols decided to keep them and standardized tests spread throughout east Asia and eventually to Europe and America.

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    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      Can I specify BJ and sandwich dates only?

      1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

        How'd a spambot get through the paywall?

        1. JesseAz   1 year ago

          There were thousands of spam bots before the registration on new accounts were created.

          1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

            Even more miraculously Reason just removed it. Or at least I can't see it anymore.

            1. R Mac   1 year ago

              Weird, I still see it.

  14. TJJ2000   1 year ago

    President Joe Biden signed the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act of 2024

    It's all Biden's FAULT!!! /s lol.

    Ironically the 1st Amendment prohibits only THIS government from meddling in legislated-speech (I don't buy BS about some international 1st Amendment) and find that BS excuse just a fantasy distraction to kill the real 1st Amendment. I also don't buy that TikTok is some sort of National Security concern.

    What I do buy is that our own Government is trying to run the press; control-it, monitor-it and collect UN-Constitutional data from it and the biggest part of this bill is being able to do that.

    So unless they can really demonstrate (outside of pure BS) how their press trade embargo on TikTok is a National Security threat I'd say it's root motive is to violate the citizens 1st Amendment.

    1. MrMxyzptlk   1 year ago

      That makes too much sense.

  15. MrMxyzptlk   1 year ago

    "Now computer sorcerers employed by a hostile government allegedly have worse in store. Prohibit this "digital fentanyl," the argument goes, or the Republic may be lost."

    To think angst ridden teens trying to piss off their parents could destroy our nation with their Pic posting. Maybe we don't deserve a nation if it's so easily destroyed.

    1. You're Kidding   1 year ago

      You and Hazlett obviously haven't had your Kia stolen, your front door kicked in or taken your 12 year old to the emergency room because they decided that eating a Tide Pod was an interesting challenge.

      Anyone who denies that TikTok is anything but a CCP tool to cause serious disruption in the west isn't paying attention. And probably believes that Soros is a misunderstood good guy.

      1. TJJ2000   1 year ago

        It's not the governments job to censor everything that might cause a problem. It's actually prohibited from doing so by the 1st Amendment. Freedom wasn't meant to be as safe as a prison cell.

  16. JohnZ   1 year ago

    As long as TikTok produces results such as this, I could care less:
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/05/teenage-rapper-shoots-himself-head-while-recording-tiktok/

    1. mad.casual   1 year ago

      Until I see a death certificate, I'm calling bullshit on 3 main counts:
      1. I'm not a huge Instagram or TikTok user but I do have a phone. I have yet to find the button that makes my phone stop recording at the precise moment I incapacitate myself and post the recording to social media. Seems like if it had such a button and I understood how to use it, avoiding shooting myself in the head would be EZPZ. Someone else posting his accidental suicide to social media is pretty freakin' ghoulish.
      2. The gun discharges and his hand moves out of the frame as though through recoil, but neither his head or the slide move. If you actually watch yourself or people shoot in slow motion the slide hits the end of the mainspring before their hands move.
      3. It's not entirely clear after the shot is fired, but his left hand, the gun hand, come up before the video cuts out. Again, I don't generally TikTok and have never shot myself in the head but the indicated motion feels a lot more like someone turning off a hoax video than someone collapsing, dropping their phone, and somehow winding up in the ER.

      I could be wrong, but given all the bullshit videos I've seen of people conveniently becoming their alters and other similar hoaxes of people shooting themselves, this feels like a Jussie Smollett.

      1. mad.casual   1 year ago

        More clearly, similar hoaxes of people shooting themselves.

      2. JohnZ   1 year ago

        If it's a hoax then the family is in on it too as they are asking for donations to cover funeral expenses.
        The best way to find out is if there is a coroner's report.
        My sense is this is more likely to be the case as young black males are very careless with firearms and the propensity to show off recklessly.

        1. mad.casual   1 year ago

          If it’s a hoax then the family is in on it too as they are asking for donations to cover funeral expenses.

          You don’t say!

          My sense is this is more likely to be the case as young black males are very careless with firearms and the propensity to show off recklessly.

          My argument doesn't rest on his firearms handling acumen or lack thereof. Maybe not even on his own Insta/Tiktok acumen.

          We agree that the best way to find out would be something more along the lines of a coroner's report or death certificate... assuming there is one.

          1. mad.casual   1 year ago

            Maybe not even on his own Insta/Tiktok acumen.

            As I vaguely indicated above, it’s possible he was live streaming somewhere or to someone else who actually recorded it and actually did shoot himself and the live stream kept running. But that means that someone, unnamed, recorded, edited, and posted the clip of the livestream.

  17. Flaco   1 year ago

    I don't get the initial joke. I know it's a reference to Music Man (the original word was Trouble) but what is the word that "It starts with "T' and that rhymes with "B" and that stands for "ban."?

    1. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

      The word is "Trouble", of course. Please try to keep up.

      1. Flaco   1 year ago

        So, the word is TikTok, and TikTok stands for Ban? Doesn't really make sense.

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