If Ronna McDaniel Is Beyond the Pale, NBC May Have Trouble Presenting 'Diverse Viewpoints'
The former RNC chair's concession that Biden won "fair and square" did not save her from internal outrage at her support for Trump's stolen-election fantasy.

Two weeks after the 2020 presidential election, Ronna McDaniel, then chair of the Republican National Committee (RNC), let Rudy Giuliani, Donald Trump's lawyer, hold a press conference at the RNC's headquarters in Washington, D.C. During that bizarre presentation, Giuliani and Sidney Powell, another member of the Trump campaign's "elite strike force team," crystallized the craziness of the president's stolen-election fantasy by describing a baroque international conspiracy that supposedly had delivered a fraudulent victory to Joe Biden.
On January 29, 2021, three weeks after angry Trump supporters who believed that fantasy invaded the U.S. Capitol as Congress was about to affirm Biden's election, McDaniel expressed regret about hosting Giuliani's clown show. "When I saw some of the things Sidney was saying, without proof, I certainly was concerned it was happening in my building," she told The New York Times. "There are a whole host of issues we had to deal with: What is the liability of the RNC, if these allegations are made and [prove to be] unfounded?"
That incident reflects McDaniel's ambiguous role in promoting Trump's baseless claims of decisive election fraud in the two months prior to the Capitol riot. Her support for those claims, which stopped short of outright endorsement but nevertheless lent them credibility, was at the center of the complaints that yesterday persuaded NBC executives to abruptly rescind their decision to hire her as an on-air commentator.
As Reason's Robby Soave noted after several NBC and MSNBC personalities publicly objected to McDaniel's gig, it is not at all unusual for news outlets to hire former party or White House officials. But McDaniel critics such as Chuck Todd, Joe Scarborough, and Rachel Maddow argued that giving her a forum on NBC was different from that standard practice because she had assisted Trump's efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election, undermining democracy by threatening the peaceful transfer of power.
McDaniel "was not the most aggressive or outlandish member of Mr. Trump's team," the Times notes. In fact, "she fell short of Mr. Trump's demands and expectations," prompting "calls from his allies and grass-roots activists to be far more aggressive." But the Times adds that "a review of her record shows she was, at times, closely involved in and supportive of Mr. Trump's legal and political maneuvering ahead of the violent attempt to block Congress from certifying Mr. Biden's victory on Jan. 6."
While that seems like an accurate assessment, NBC's conclusion that McDaniel is beyond the pale raises questions about where exactly a network should draw that line when it tries to present a mix of political viewpoints. Given Trump's domination of the Republican Party, finding former GOP officials who did not acquiesce in his increasingly desperate attempts to remain in office after he lost reelection may prove challenging. And if dissident Never Trumpers are the only acceptable on-air Republicans, news outlets like NBC will be presenting a highly skewed selection that does not reflect prevailing opinions within the party.
McDaniel's public statements about fraud after the election were less extravagant than Trump's but open to various interpretations. On November 6, the day before news organizations called the election for Biden, she said the RNC was looking into "irregularities" in four states, including Michigan. Four days later on Fox News, she cited a Politico poll finding that "70 percent of Republicans don't have faith in the results of this election right now." She suggested they were right to be skeptical:
It's been rigged from the beginning—rigged from the laws that were being passed in the name of COVID to create a porous election, rigged in the sense that they kicked Republicans out of poll watching and observing. Why do you do that if you have nothing to hide? And now you have a media that's rigging it again by saying, "We're not going to even listen to these stories. We're not even going to validate the 11,000 incident reports we have, the 500 affidavits we have across these states, people testifying under oath how they were disenfrachised."…It is stealing when you validate a vote that shouldn't be in. You are stealing from a voter that voted legally.
Here is how McDaniel summed up her message when she posted that clip on Twitter: "The American people deserve to have faith in our elections. That's why the RNC is going to pursue this process to the very end."
Exactly what that meant was unclear. As Trump saw it, "the very end" did not come after Republican officials (including his own attorney general) debunked his claims of systematic fraud, after states certified their electors, after the Electoral College met on December 14, after courts rejected numerous lawsuits challenging the election results, or even on the day that Congress was meeting to ratify those results. But McDaniel's idea of "the very end" seems to have been more conventional.
After Giuliani and Powell took the lead in pursuing remedies for Trump's groundless grievance, the Times notes, the RNC "shifted away from the legal involvement with the Trump team." It "attached its name only to four" of "the 65 lawsuits that Mr. Trump and his allies filed after the 2020 election."
McDaniel continued lending rhetorical support to such challenges, however. "Every illegal vote is stealing from a valid vote, and every state that conducted their election fraudulently is stealing from states that conducted their elections fairly," she told Fox News host Sean Hannity on December 8.
That formulation was consistent with longstanding Republican concerns about voter fraud, complaints about pandemic-related changes to election procedures, and objections to the alleged mistreatment of GOP poll watchers. It did not necessarily imply that fraud was massive or widespread enough to change the outcome of the election. But in the context of Trump's refusal to admit that he had lost the election, McDaniel's comments left the impression that his complaints were valid.
Behind the scenes, meanwhile, McDaniel was helping Trump press those complaints. During a December 6 teleconference, the House select committee that investigated the Capitol riot noted in its report, Trump and his legal adviser John Eastman "solicited the RNC's assistance" with their plan to present "alternate electors" in battleground states, and "McDaniel agreed to provide that assistance." But according to the federal indictment that charges Trump with illegally interfering in the election, Eastman "falsely represented to her that such electors' votes would be used only if ongoing litigation in one of the states changed the results in [Trump's] favor."
McDaniel also supported a quixotic election lawsuit spearheaded by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton that the U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear, much to Trump's dismay. The Times notes that McDaniel "helped Mr. Trump rally state attorneys general" to join that lawsuit and praised it on Fox News. "I'm so happy about this Texas lawsuit," she told Hannity. "There's going to be more states joining that lawsuit."
The House select committee's report also faults McDaniel for sins of omission. Although "RNC leadership knew that President Trump was lying to the American people," it says, "they did nothing to publicly distance themselves from his efforts to overturn the election."
The afternoon of the Capitol riot, McDaniel condemned that particular result of those efforts. "What these violent protesters are doing is the opposite of patriotism," she said on Twitter. "It is shameful and I condemn it in the strongest possible terms."
That was followed, a few weeks later, by McDaniel's public expression of regret for giving Giuliani and Powell a post-election forum at the RNC. McDaniel told the Times she was immediately "concerned" about the seemingly "unfounded" claims that Powell made "without proof" at that wacky press conference. But as the House select committee noted, she kept her concerns to herself.
Nowadays, McDaniel unambiguously rejects those claims. While "it's fair to say there were problems in 2020," she told Kristen Welker on NBC's Meet the Press this week, it is clear that Biden won "fair and square." She added that "it's certified" and "it's done."
Appearing later on the same show, Todd, a former Meet the Press host who is now NBC's chief political analyst, expressed skepticism about McDaniel's sincerity. "I think our bosses owe you an apology for putting you in this situation because I don't know what to believe," he told Welker. "She is now a paid contributor by NBC News. I have no idea whether any answer she gave to you was because she didn't want to mess up her contract."
Sincere or not, McDaniel's avowed view of what happened in 2020 contradicts what most Republicans say they believe. In a Washington Post/University of Maryland poll conducted last December, just 31 percent of Republicans agreed that "Joe Biden's election as president was legitimate," down from 39 percent in a similar poll two years earlier.
That reality presents a problem for TV news executives who say they are trying to present a diversity of political opinions. After canning McDaniel, NBCUniversal News Group Chairman Cesar Conde said the network remains "committed to the principle that we must have diverse viewpoints on our programs." Toward that end, he said, "we will redouble our efforts to seek voices that represent different parts of the political spectrum."
If those "different parts" exclude Republicans who think Trump actually won reelection (which, it's worth noting, would make him ineligible to run this year), NBC already has ruled out most members of the party. And if McDaniel's acknowledgment of reality was too late or too convenient to make the cut, the options are even more limited. When "major Republican Party figures like Ms. McDaniel are deemed unacceptable by viewers or colleagues," the Times wonders, how can an organization like NBC meet "the challenge of fairly representing conservative and pro-Trump viewpoints in their coverage"? It's a good question, and the answer probably will not satisfy anyone.
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Remember all those “conspiracy stories “ that later were shown to be accurate?
Comcast owns NBC. Comcast is controlled by that Roberts clown from Philly, but he takes his yacht to his beachfront home on Martha’s Vineyard.
Guess who he shares drinks with while they’re deciding policy and discussing politics? Yep.
Add it to the list.
Trumpanzee added to Mooted Lewser list.
No. Which ones ?
Good little 50 center. Well earned.
Still waiting for gay alien frogs.
I and many others are batting 1000 on those "debunked" conspiracy theories and it's not a fantasy that the election was stolen, rigged or however you care to put it.
Whutabout the Brazilian election? A military Trumpanzista Jesusfreak got elected on Orango-Hitler's coattails 2 years later. The girl-bullying prohibitionist was tossed out by voters 2 years after Donnie's butt hit the road, and his fascist minions attacked and vandalized Congress and courts. Where's the anarco-nazi Unified theory that BOTH were peaceful, the videos pure CGI, and that IF anyone's hair was mussed, Democrat reefer madness and birth control are to blame, huh? https://libertariantranslator.wordpress.com/2018/10/29/brazilian-polling-place/
Exactly. It's annoying Sullum keeps calling Trump's belief (and the belief of many others based on evidence) the election was stolen was a fantasy, due to lack of solid evidence showing cheating. Yet at 11 PM the gamblers had Trump as a 90% favorite, but only to see big batches of ballots processed around 3-5 AM with highly unusual margins (and voter turnout) in big Democrat run counties in swing states. That's smoke, but not fire. The thing is, none of the Democrats (or Sullum it seems) wanted any examination of the election procedures, to re-assure citizens who suspected cheating by Democrats. And the courts didn't want to wade into it either.
As for McDaniel, the Democrats are showing they intend to cancel and destroy anyone who questions whether or not Biden won. They also showed they were willing to setup Trump supporters by tearing down barriers to the Capitol on 1/6, arresting and jailing every one of them, except of course Ray Epps and the other undercover feds and their assets (i.e., people they've deceived into breaking the law and who encouraged others to break the law), such as John Nichols, the scaffold commander at the Capitol on 1/6. Why hasn't he been arrested and jailed??? And why did Ray Epps get a sweetheart deal relative to other 1/6 tourists walking in the Capitol that day.
due to lack of solid evidence showing cheating
There's a word for "claims without solid evidence". When you have no fucking clue what you're talking about, it's "speculation". When you do know better, or ought to know better, it's a "lie".
To have irregularities ignored is strange, and then an overwhelming narrative that anyone questioning is a lunatic speaks to conspiracy. This article is an example of how a narrative is chosen by the media. It’s okay to discuss anything, and when it is shut down hard by all media outlets, you see a looming question, why? If they get away with it once then they will do it again. Then we don’t have real elections, which should concern everyone.
No "irregularities" were ignored, at least not until after they were examined and found baseless. More than three years later no one has produced one iota of evidence of the kind of large-scale, systematic fraud that would be required to "steal" an election. If you want "real" elections, demanding that both parties offer real alternatives rather than heated-over failures would be a lot more productive than clinging to baseless lies.
Ok commie. JFC you're naive or just a partisan hack when you see all the control processes shredded and your big brain thought is "oopsies happen"
Are these the same gambling sites that predicted Hillary would win in 2016? I have documentation on that stuff: https://libertariantranslator.wordpress.com/2020/10/28/election-odds-then-and-now/
Yeah, it's so annoying when people insist on calling out delusions just because no one can produce any evidence to support them. GOP election officials couldn't find any evidence of this supposed fraud, despite having every incentive to do so. Even the hired guns brought in to find this fraud came up dry. Election procedures were examined and re-examined. All of the supposed irregularities have been scrutinized over and over. They all had perfectly innocent explanations, or else were made up from the get-go. No one has found any fire, and the closer you look the more it looks like the only smoke is what Trump and his supporters are blowing up my ass.
Two paragraphs in and it's full on TDS.
Fuck, dude, look in the mirror. This is not about Trump. I didn't make it past the third paragraph, but I assume, maybe, somewhere, you might have gotten to MSDNC and their shit.
I made it to the sub-header.
Jen "Ginger Goebbels " Psaki complaining about a biased McDaniels is pretty friggen rich.
They don't want diverse viewpoints, they want superficially "diverse" people to deliver approved viewpoints.
You no doubt would support a Holocaust denier as head of the Western Civilization department in a major university.
To represent a diverse viewpoint, of course.
Weird take given the number of denials of truths by NBC and MSNBC from covid to Russia to Hunter to Maga in Chicago to fine good people to Kavanaugh rapes to mostly peaceful riots…
Your typical word vomit.
Covid origin - lab or wet market? Unknown.
Russia-Trump meeting at Trump Tower? Confirmed as fact.
Hunter Dick-Pics? they do exist. OMG! who cares?
MAGA in Chicago? No idea what this means
Fine people Neo Nazi rally? Yes, they were there.
Kavanaugh? so he got handsy as a drunken teen? Who cares?
NEXT WINGNUT UP!
Bring it on.
We know you lie and are partisan. Sevo reminds us daily. Thanks for confirming but there is really no need.
Hunter Dick-Pics? they do exist. OMG! who cares?
You, apparently, as you never miss an opportunity to bring them up, especially when other people are trying to talk about the foreign influence peddling.
Buttplug clearly has a core fetish about Hunter's penis.
Remember --- he dislikes Biden. A lot.
I remind folks because nothing he posts seems to verify that. Ever.
Of course the child rapist deflects from all the OTHER stuff that was on that laptop. So disingenuous, so stupid.
Shut the fuck up already--the only thing more embarrassing than your dishonesty is that you habitually insist on acting like an asshole.
“”Covid origin – lab or wet market? Unknown.””
It’s been unknown since day one. But that’s not the way left leaning media played it. Any talk of it being a lab leak was met with it’s a lie Trump was telling. And if you didn’t believe it was wet market you are a problem because you believe Trump.
The WHO and all major news outlets agree it was a lab leak. Get with the times and the truth nitwit.
So you marxist cunts lied for years, cool.
Seeing as how only your fellow traveler leftist deny it, I can almost guarantee there is already a denier in a position like that.
Yes, pretending that a well documented historical atrocity never happened is exactly the same as bringing up questions about election integrity in the US. A significant portion of the voting public has doubts about the integrity of elections. It is absolutely a valid issue to debate, including questions about 2020.
The two are alike in that 100% of the evidence supports Biden's win and the existence of the Holocaust.
Were there minor election irregularities? Sure, a dozen or so vote fraud cases were found (mostly votes for Trump). But no evidence exists of large scale vote fraud.
Three years later? None.
Hey!
Where is Sevo when we need him ...
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turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.
Poor little Tricky Nixon sued Texas, whining abt Johnson and JFK robbin' him. Rutherford Hayes lost the pop and electoral votes. But a gentlemen's agreement to free the Louisiana murderers of about 100 black officials, give the Klan qualified immunity and preserving Comstock laws in exchange for tossing Tilden changed the election outcome, albeit with considerable deadly violence. Al Gore swears Climate Sharknados, Flardy and Nader are to blame for his losing to Waffen Bush. Yawn... spoiler votes (https://bit.ly/3ztkcSv)
Anyone who denies the 2020 election was plagued with “irregularities” is the loon
All elections are plagued with irregularities. But like Law and Sausage, they should never be looked at too closely.
So you're an advocate for fraud.
A tale in which NeverTrumpers and the GOPe discover fealty to the Uniparty is not enough to save them from progressive's pitchforks.
But trump is the real focus here. Ask Jacob.
If Reason writers demonstrated just a bit more outrage over the political shenanigans perpetrated by the DNC over the decades that could be argued triggered the backlash by disenfranchised MAGAts, they might appear a little less biased than NBC ... but not much ...
Reporting on election fraud is very risky. Even if you agree 100% that the fraud happened by taking a stand that it happened means a lot of people stop listening to everything else you say.
Does Reason want to be a site for Trump Supporters who only accept the news that agrees with the election fraud story or do they want to reach people who might just vote for Libertarian candidates?
To be fair, I don't see most conservatives switching over and voting Libertarian if Trump some how manages to be tossed off the ballot because they can't get past the lack of religious fanaticism thing. In short, why should they give a shit about you?
Biden is a dumpster fire. It is known by everyone the DNC paid Bernie to step down in favor of Hillary. The welfare state is falling apart. Union members are walking away from the Democrats and minorities are figuring out that LBJ was never their friend and the DNC isn't any better. Ranting about election fraud isn't going to bring them on as Libertarian voters. Screaming that abortion is murder and sexual weirdos are perverts who want to rape your kids isn't going to bring them on board. Talking about school choice and how weirdo Republicans are obsessed with your genitals is the better political play.
So yeah, Reason and the LP don't give a shit about you. Explain why they should?
“Talking about school choice and how weirdo Republicans are obsessed with your genitals is the better political play.”
Are you high?
Edit: No. I am not high. It's still illegal in South Dakota because Republicans don't like anyone having fun.
Christians aren’t as dominant as they think they are. Lots of people surveyed about what the “believe” will say “non denominational” or “I believe, but not in any organized religion”. Lots of those are afraid to admit to being full on non believers.
If your numbers were anywhere near serious you’d not be having trouble winning elections. If actually 70% of the US was an actually full brainwashed Christian the Democrats would never win elections. They couldn’t.
So you’re more likely a noisy minority group whose opinions don’t matter in the modern world. Playing up to those delusions isn’t politically sound.
Playing to disenfranchised Democrats makes more sense. After all, we may be able to sell hippies on guns to protect their weed farms from angry Christians. Will we ever sell gun owners on drug legalization?
We’ve tried to get through to you people for decades and still you vote for Republicans who have sold you out over and over. You’re like battered wives who keep coming back. It’s pathetic. Your the past. The future is finding common ground with the left.
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
LOL
""We’ve tried to get through to you people ""
You people.
""The future is finding common ground with the left.""
No. The left is showing little interest in common ground. They want to dominate. The fact they will protest just because it's someone they don't like speaks volumes on a lack of willingness to sit at the table for discussion. They want people who don't think like them to become the new unfavored group and then treat them accordingly.
The only people obsessed about gender are the democrats. And all their insane tranny bullshit.
>>internal outrage at her support for Trump's stolen-election fantasy.
lol by you, with 55 readers and MSNBC with 1200 viewers?
I'm sorry I felt bad about this comment later. towards you, msnbc can suck it.
Jacob the liar deserves it though.
>>Trump's stolen-election fantasy
when is your piece on the unconstitutional 2020 voting laws in Pennsylvania?
Fun story out of Connecticut where the redo of the election thrown out by courts due to fraudulent actions also had reported voter fraud. Including paid mail in ballots abd over 10% registered ballots the voter didn't register for.
https://thefederalist.com/2024/03/26/connecticut-elections-chief-reports-suspicious-activity-in-do-over-race-after-judge-overturned-primary/
But keep believing 2020 was the cleanest election ever.
No way they would try that elsewhere. Don't tell me that you don't have total faith in the vaunted institutions.
Probably around the time that a majority of people actually give a shit about it.
That won't be today, or next week... probably will be a while.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/05/america-biden-election-2020-poll-victory
doofus he took the literal opposite side above
If you parrot the zany election lies of Sidney Powell, Rudy Guiliani, and Fatass Donnie you have proven yourself unfit to work for a reputable news organization.
There are plenty of conservative nutjob news outlets out there.
>>reputable news organization.
good god lol
There is no reasoning with idiot propagandists like Shreek. He should be imprisoned or executed. Given his pedophilia, execution seems appropriate.
This is a common and dishonest tactic. Point to the craziest or worst arguments made for a certain position and pretend they are typical or exhaustive.
There some crazy claims made about the election. And some claims that turned out to be definitely false. There are also a lot of questions, particularly around mail ballots, that have not been satisfactorily answered and conceivably could have changed election results. I don't claim to know what the answer is, but it is absolutely something people should still be discussing and investigating.
Well said. Thank you.
Yes.
That's the logical position. Should be uncontroversial.
Absolutely.
Here is what Republicans publish in their platform: "The progress made over the last three decades against drug abuse is eroding, whether for cultural reasons or for lack of national leadership. In many jurisdictions, marijuana is virtually legalized despite its illegality under federal law. At the other end of the drug spectrum, heroin use nearly doubled from 2003 to 2013, while deaths from heroin have quadrupled." Translation: 1. reinstate all shoot-first prohibitionism (which kills people) to ban non-toxic plant leaves that never killed anyone. 2. gasp as if the banning of harmless alternatives had not been the main cause of opiate addiction and deaths. THAT is on the record.
? You think that weed what people are concerned about? The opioid crisis is hitting rural families disproportionately. Please state sources and let us know what’s ’on the record.’
None of either looter faction's news outlets compares platforms: What do you want? (http://bit.ly/3WDUByS)
just 31 percent of Republicans agreed that "Joe Biden's election as president was legitimate,"
I knew there were some sane Republicans.
https://mtracey.medium.com/the-most-predictable-election-fraud-backlash-ever-4187ba31d430
Of course what happened subsequently was that even years after Trump had safely taken power, the corporate media’s top luminaries continuously used the phrase “hacked the election” to describe the purported actions of Russia on behalf of Trump in 2016. Supermajorities of Democratic voters came to believe not just that Russia “interfered” in the election, but directly installed Trump into power by tampering with voting machines. Now, though, journalists who fostered these blinkered beliefs will feign incredulity that their conduct could have contributed to widespread “doubt” as to the “legitimacy” of that election. And they’ll be aghast at any suggestion that this was inevitably going to generate yet another crazed anti-legitimization initiative in 2020.
Facts about 2016:
*Russia did help Trump via a disinformation campaign.
*Members of the Trump campaign met with Russian agents
*There is no evidence that Trump himself had knowledge about his people meeting with the Russians.
*There is no evidence that Russia tampered with any voting machines.
Cite?
So you are not among the supermajority " of Democratic voters came to believe not just that Russia “interfered” in the election, but directly installed Trump into power by tampering with voting machines".
Good to know.
Facts about 2016: Gary Johnson won at least 4M votes and reshuffled outcomes in 13 States casting 127 electoral votes. This was on a pro-choice, repeal drug prohibition and don't-import-terrorists platform. Anarco-communists immediately infiltrated to invite terrorist invasions using the LP platform. Anarco-fascists promptly infiltrated to finish strangling our pro-choice platform which originally said: "We further support the repeal of all laws restricting voluntary birth control or voluntary termination of pregnancies during their first hundred days" and steeply increased our vote share.
There is actually evidence of Biden having numerous meetings with China and Ukraine, very little of Trump.
Are you back on the payroll?
NBC: all the news that's fit to share. as long as analysts we hire don't make any of our snowflake staff hyperventilate and hide under their desks.
Even if you view the RNC as the enemy, doesn't it make sense to try to understand them?
Michael Steele was former RNC Chair and works for MSNBC.
They just don't want the nutjobs.
If the ones perceived as nutjobs are the enemy, doesn't it make sense to try to understand them?
You’re a ‘nutjob’. You fuck small children and worship a traitor like Soros. You’re also lying trash.
They just do not want a conservative who can win an election.
Steele sure as fuck could not.
No
The former RNC chair's concession that Biden won "fair and square" did not save her from internal outrage at her support for Trump's stolen-election fantasy.
Did all MSNBC reporters concede that Trump won "fair and square" in 2016?
Weird. Her current statements aren’t valid because she’s paid by NBC.
Then her past statements aren’t valid because she was paid by RNC.
Observe that yesterday Stossel shared the news of the Squatter*-shunter restoring people's homes. Today Faux Nyooz shouted it from the rooftops as if it were their scoop. Libertarian spoiler votes are like that. They get the attention of cowardly evaders like the lone dissenter in a Solomon Asch experiment, and completely nullify the corrupting effect of social pressure from either looter faction.
Diversity of opinion is very important in our news media. However, honesty and integrity are more important. If only MAGAs are left, then you leave them out. McDaniel was an active participant in the attempted coup of 2020-2021, and she spent the next three years lying about the election and attacking reporters.
You don't do "bothsideism" if one side is batshit crazy.
Doesn't understand what diversity of thought actually means, do you?
I do know that lying is not part of it.
Are you certain?
Tell me more about Russian collusion.
Tell me more about how the Hunter laptop was not real.
I don't think you want to open yourself up to this can of worms. The media lies to you constantly, literally every single day. It is their very job to lie to you:
The economy is so strong! The border is secure! The 2020 election was the most secure ever!
Wake up, friend. We can't help you see when you squeeze your eyes so tightly shut like that.
Looks like they sold enough Trumpanzista Bibles to finance another assault on the Commentariat by faece-based asset-forfeiture swagheads.
Or honesty. Or integrity.
Indeed. There can be no reasoning with your kind. As you are incapable of reason, logic, or honesty.
NBC should hire Matt Shea. However, I don’t think they hire people that hate America
He would be the knot rationale person they’ve had in years. On a side note, you’re obsessed with him.
Could it be love?
Sorry after you mentioned you met him I was starstruck.
I’ve interacted online with one of the traitors that will be strung up.
The WHOLE POINT of clutching pearls and blanching over the peeps communicating freely is to justify goons with guns stamping out web media and restoring the Altruist Broadcasting Corporation, Communist Broadcasting Corporation, Nationalsocialist Broadcasting Corporation Holy Trinity.
Viewpoint orthodoxy is the point of the legacy media.
The Constitution bars serving more than ten years not winning more than two elections. Since Trump wasn't sworn in for a second term, and thus didn't serve a second term (yet) he wouldn't be barred from running for this election rather or not he won. Especially as the electoral college isn't forced to vote for the candidate that won their state but generally do (because what is actually won is which slate of electors is sent granted the vote in the electoral college). So, once again Sollum, in his smug snarkiness, proves his unfamiliarity with the subject he is pontificating on.
Also, a good editor should have pointed out the difference between winning and serving, plus the electoral college. Trump may or may not have won the vote in the states he contended, but it didn't matter once the electoral college voted. Since the vote in November is not the vote they actually matters, the electoral college is what matters.
That's why the EC is racist and unfair.
"Since the vote in November is not the vote they actually matters, the electoral college is what matters."
Unless you are Trump, where even the EC does not matter.
In what way?
What about PoPuLaR vOtE?
She is beyond the pale because she CHOOSES to belong to a church founded by a child fucking fraud.
They’re a million times better than bitter, obnoxious, authoritarian atheists. The tiniest molded fools of all.
I say this as an agnostic.
You say that as a subversive America hating traitor.
NSA,FBI, CIA we got one here near Spokane. He even admitted he supports Matt Shea
>If Ronna McDaniel Is Beyond the Pale, NBC May Have Trouble Presenting 'Diverse Viewpoints'
God damn. You people are tiring.
NBC doesn't present 'diverse viewpoints'. The only reason she was hired is she would parrot the anti-Trump line, spend the next 4 years shitting on anything the GOP did - because Trump, all the while telling everyone she is a 'true conservative'.
Which she's not. She's a Democrat-lite like all the other DNC-simps you love in the GOP.
Captain Kirk, Incubus Pablum spotted flying Swastika, bearing one-seven-nine, range 4500.
Prepare faux-tonne torpedo Mr Sulu... Fire!
Lewser mooted, Captain.
She’s a Democrat-lite
Up until March 8th, she was the chairwoman of the Republican National Committee. She's the longest serving RNC chair since the Civil War. It is quite literally impossible to be any more Republican than that. The very definitions of what is a Republican and what is a Democrat revolved around her decisions. Calling her a Democrat is the very height of looney tunes nonsense.
No you ignorant leftist cunt. She pushed the Uniparty line that the captured old guard elected officials and donors wanted, she had 0 to do with what is Republican in any sort of real way as represented by the voter base actively abandoning her and her priorities threatening to make those captured interests irrelevant.
The 2020 election was a sh*t show from a process point of view. There is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that partisans took advantage of the chaos caused by the country's over-reaction to COVID to find a weakness in process and exploit it to favor their side. I have served more than two decades as an election volunteer, and I am completely familiar with partisan behaviors. They will take any advantage they can get, fair or unfair, legal or illegal. It is only our election procedures and our courts that stand in their way.
Was the election stolen like Trump says? No. There was no master plan by an evil villain. But there absolutely was chaos, and procedures that were developed literally over hundreds of years and thousands of elections to keep things on the level were thrown out the window.
What do we call that? It's not a single theft. It's not a single attempt to rig the system. It is wholesale panic and a scramble of process.
So no, 2020 was not "the most secure election ever", exactly the opposite. And we're going to be living with the consequences of that panic attack for a very long time. For example, mail-in balloting is growing, a very unsafe relaxation of the chain-of-custody standards. Want some immediate evidence of this? Look no further than California, which is still counting mail-in ballots for its primary. Pitiful.
Shrillary looters struggle to try to blame Green Econazis for their loss. This was preferable to admitting that Gary Johnson's pro-choice, legalize-it campaign reshuffled 13 state elections with 127 electoral votes. She, Slick Willy and Obummer told women to stock up on coathangers and smile when narcs jail and confiscate their assets. Dems responded by voting Libertarian and Army-Of-God Hitler squeaked in on electoral gerrymandering. God's Own Prohibitionists promptly attacked women and got their own lard-butts tossed. Libertarian spoiler votes do NOT waste effort or money.
Readers will observe that the hankie-twister pointedly ignores libertarian spoiler votes.
The fact that mystery mail-in ballots (BY-FAR MORE than ever before) gave Biden the win is NOT a fantasy Reason retards.
The fact that executive-fiat changed election law is NOT a fantasy Reason retards.
The fact that REAL IN-PERSON votes gave Trump a win is NOT a fantasy Reason retards.
The fact that Reason keeps repeating 'fantasy' 'conspiracy theory', etc, etc, etc, etc while ignoring all the above is literally trying to turn BS propaganda into truth by repetition.
Ronna McDaniel was hired by NBC NEWS as a stunt so they could publicly fire her. Personally, I don't like Ronna McDaniel, but NBC NEWS is a complete disgrace and probably should be renamed to DNC NEWS. They are much more partisan than FOX, which is accused of being Trump TV.
On FOX NEWS, there are always dissenting voices even though they have some difficulty getting democrats brave enough come on and be subject to an interview that asks uncomfortable questions instead of the softballs they get asked by other broadcast outlets.
Personally, FOX NEWS it too partisan for my liking, however NBC, CBS, ABC and PBS are way more partisan. I try to avoid them all and hope that the local stations stick to local news instead of offering their biased commentary during news.
Part of the problem is the conflation of commentary and news. More and more news broadcasts are contaminating news with biased commentary and opinions. Broadcasts that claim to be "News" should be only news with an unbiased as possible delivery and choice of words. Just the facts. Opinion broadcasts should not be labeled or promoted as "News" and should be able to delve into whatever fantasy world they want to live in.
Unfortunately, I feel that the notion of "News" is either already dead or is on it's last gasps.
Reason is a commentary outlet, but does not sell it's content as "News" which I appreciate. I also agree with much of the content, but it is not "News". If Reason promoted itself as "News" in it's current form, I would have issues with it, but if the "News" branch stuck to unbiased reporting of the facts without apply a biased spin, I would not have issues.
If the "News" side was intermixed/commingled with the opinion side and not clearly labeled, then you have what the corporate media does to contaminate the "News" currently. I feel that there is a deliberate attempt by the corporate media to conflate opinion pieces and news by falsely presenting opinion pieces as news.
To this day, there are still Democrats (pols and media) that deny that Trump won the 2016 election, up to, and including Hillary Clintom herself.
Fuck off...
This, of course, makes Trump correct. lol. Excellent logic sir.
Nah. Just that the lack of diaper-soiling when one side does it is very telling.
The MSM have no problem hiring former intelligence officers blatantly lied about Hunter’s laptop, you can’t make this stuff up
Oooo! Trumpanzista with new sockpuppet. Activate Moot Lewser torpedo. FIRE!
See? Army of God and Robert Dear mystical fanatics are one with Lutheran Jew-killers, Torquemada torturers and all other relics of The Darkening Age in their ability to reason and grasp facts. Not enough for the MAGAts for the bimbo to agree with enslaving women or gunning down teens who stray from straight-and-narrow gin and cigarettes. She failed to wash Trumps feet with her hair and is therefore a heretic. Expect mental cases carrying "BURN HUR" signs. Republican hatemongering 1931 (https://bit.ly/3R0E2y8)
Lmao. Welcome to the ever-growing ranks of the politically homeless Ronna McDaniel.
Yeah, 10 million Democrats and what 3 dozen Republicans?
Those "diverse viewpoints" NBC is committed to presenting will range from "Joe Biden is the fittest and most capable President ever to hold the office" to "Joe Biden is a demi-God with super-powers".
Please, it's 2024 so I'm sure were barreling towards "Joe Biden is a pedophile and that's a good thing"
The Free Market has spoken. Ronna is un-hireable. God, I love capitalism. Is "The Blaze" still around and hiring?