Election 2020

Trump's Judicial Humiliation Is Nearly Complete

The president and his allies keep losing election cases.

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"We will be INTERVENING in the Texas…case," outgoing President Donald Trump tweeted today. "This is the big one."

Trump was referring to Texas v. Pennsylvania, a lawsuit filed directly at the U.S. Supreme Court this week by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, who wants SCOTUS to overturn the election results in four states—Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin—that went for President-elect Joe Biden. Texas "is acting to protect the interests of its respective citizens in the fair and constitutional conduct of elections used to appoint presidential electors," the lawsuit declared.

As far as legal filings go, this one is not exactly a model of careful argumentation. For example, Texas told the Supreme Court that it is specifically targeting Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, and Wisconsin because "Defendant States' combined 72 electoral votes…will determine the outcome of the election." But as the veteran Supreme Court reporter Lyle Denniston quickly pointed out, "those 4 only have 62." Indeed, Pennsylvania has 20 electoral votes, Georgia has 16, Michigan has 16, and Wisconsin has 10. You do the math. "Did Texas proofread the massive documents it filed in SCt to block Biden victory?" Denniston asked. It would appear not.

Under Article III, Section 2 of the Constitution, the Supreme Court has "original Jurisdiction" in certain matters, including "Controversies between two or more States." In plain English, this means that a state may try to sue another state directly at SCOTUS without first hitting up the lower courts. But original jurisdiction cases are rare and, when they involve one state suing another, they typically center on disputes over things like borders or water rights. No state has ever pulled off a stunt even remotely like overturning the results of a presidential election by going straight to SCOTUS to challenge the results in another state.

"With all due respect," said a spokeswoman for Georgia's Republican Attorney General Chris Carr, "the Texas attorney general is constitutionally, legally and factually wrong about Georgia."

That pattern of wrongness has certainly been evident in the other big election cases that Trump and his allies have been touting in recent weeks.

Take Trump for President v. Pennsylvania, a case that sought to have that state's election results overturned. "The Campaign's claims have no merit," ruled Judge Stephanos Bibas of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 3rd Circuit. "Calling an election unfair does not make it so," Bibas wrote. "Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here." For those of you keeping score at home, Bibas is a respected legal conservative who was appointed to the 3rd Circuit in 2017 by none other than Trump himself. Bibas' "blistering opinion," as Reason's Jacob Sullum put it, "is a reality check for Republicans who still think Biden stole the election."

Meanwhile, in the span of just a few hours yesterday, Trump and his allies suffered two more embarrassing defeats. First, in a one-sentence order with no dissents, the U.S. Supreme Court declined to intervene in another Pennsylvania case, this one brought by Rep. Mike Kelly (R–Pa.), who went to court in hopes of getting millions of mail-in ballots thrown out, thereby overturning Biden's Keystone State victory.

That loss for Trump was quickly followed by Ward v. Jackson, a unanimous ruling by the Arizona Supreme Court which rejected a state Republican Party challenge to Arizona's election results. "The challenge fails to present any evidence of 'misconduct,' 'illegal votes' or that the Biden Electors 'did not in fact receive the highest number of votes for office,' let alone establish any degree of fraud or a sufficient error rate that would undermine the certainty of the election results," the Arizona Supreme Court observed.

There is something almost pathetic in the sight of a sitting president clinging to such outlandish lawsuits only to watch them predictably sputter and fail in the courts. That the losses are sometimes accompanied by a bench slap from one of Trump's own judicial appointees does not improve the optics.

If the Supreme Court ultimately rejects the far-fetched lawsuit that was filed this week by Texas, as I suspect it will, Trump's judicial humiliation will be complete.

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  1. *pops come popcorn*

    1. jeez, can’t even spell “some”

      1. I assumed it was a different misspelling than that. I was going to say that how you season your popcorn is up to you, but that’s pretty gross.

        1. Since we’re on the discussion of snacks, I wonder how much longer Trump and his supporting buttplugs on this comment section will be upset that the voting public went with the glazed donut with sprinkles instead of just the glazed one?

          1. I think you mean ‘chose the shit sandwich over the giant douche’.

            1. Agree to disagree.

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        2. I mean come on, who hasn’t cut a hole in the bottom of the popcorn tub on a first date to the movies.

          1. First date? You slut!

          2. Sevo’s boyfriend did! On more than one occasion more than likely.

            1. Seems I occupy quite a bit of that mostly empty space between the ears of this lefty piece of shit.

              1. Well, you never disappoint with your angry right wing extremists temper tantrums.

                1. Sevo’s not an extremist. He’s a quasi-autistic asshole with Tourette’s. Nothing more.

                  1. Oh, wow.
                    All the sockpuppets come out to play when it’s Sevo trashing time.

                    1. Fuck off tulpa

          3. You have to be on a date for that?

            Asking for a friend.

        3. I warned the Commies at unreason this would happen.

          Trump won an even bigger amount of states than 2016 and because of the massive Democrats election fraud scheme. Trump is going to win a second term under the 12th Amendment.

          1. Keep it up. We’re all laughing at you and your idiot friends burning your own party to the ground. All of my tear buckets are overflowing. You dumbfucks are about to give the senate to the libtards. Fuck off.

            1. Poor unreason.

              AZ just joined the Texas SCOTUS legal action.

              12th Amendment here we come and Trumps second term.

            2. Senator beat jon ossoff by 80,000 votes when every democrat who could cote did vote. Georgia will have two GOP senators just like Trump is winning a second term.

            3. No, the libtards are busing in people to help them commit voter fraud. Now that they got away with it once, they’re emboldened and are even openly talking about people moving there just to vote and move home after the election.

              If Republicans lose GA, it will be even more evidence of your slimy, ass eating fraud. How many times did YOU vote, Overflow? HOW MAY?

              1. Fuck off tulpa

      2. never share popcorn w/sarc lol

      3. Nope you knew what you were doing.

      4. I am glad someone stepped up to replace SugarFree.

        1. no No NO NO NOOOOOOO!!!!!!! no Warty stories. No. That shit gave me nightmares.

          1. It’s pretty sad what happened to SugarFree, since the Glibs run “a family-friendly website.”

            1. What did ever become of sugar free?

              1. Nevermind, found him on glibertarians. His latest is PG-13, but still pretty good, maybe even better than I remember.

                Sugarfree’s latest post:

                “Look what they did to my boy,” Donald wailed. “Look what they did to my Rudy!” Donald used a sponge stapled to a broomhandle to wipe away the brown goo running down Rudy’s face.

                “I really think he should be in a hospital, Donald,” the hair said, clinging to the back of his jacket collar, peering over his shoulder.

                “Nonsense,” Donald shot back. “He needs to be with his family at a time like this.”

                “Family?” the hair asked.

                “When you run a train on hooker together, you become brothers forever,” Donald whispered hoarsely.

                “No gods, no masters,” the hat said proudly. “The only holy thing is sloppy seconds.”

                The hair turned, waggled back and forth for a second, and then jumped to a nearby table, landing with a quiet gobble of disgust.

                “Will he make it?” Donald asked the hat. “I made it. I shook off the China Virus an easy dozen times.”

                Rudy coughed weakly into the CPAP mask engulfing his face, his stacked neck wattles shaking queasily.

                “I don’t know, Donald,” the hat said. “He eats so little McDonald’s compared to you he may not have the level of toxins in his blood to fight off the virus like you did.”

                “The China Virus, you mean.”

                “Yes, the China Virus.”

                “Not the Trump Virus.”

                “Never the Trump Virus, Donald,” the hat assured him. The hair snorted from his table.

                “You said all this would be over if I lost the election,” Donald said to the hat. “You said COVIDs would go away.”

                “There’s still the Georgia senatorial race,” the hat replied. “The vaccine was announced five days after the election, after all. That proves they were all in it together to hoax you out of the Presidency. And now they are trying to kill your election lawyer with it.”

                “Give him every vaccine, all the vaccines,” Donald said. “I’ve never paid for sex; I need Rudy to live.”

                “You’ve never paid for sex?” the hair asked incredulously.

                “I always gave Rudy the money first,” Donald said sadly, mopping away more of the brown goo pouring from Rudy’s infected scalp.

                1. Lieber I love how instead of hiding from Trump you’re now emboldened because your boy Biden won. I’m glad you finally stopped hiding like a bitch!

                  “De Oppresso Liber
                  November.4.2020 at 3:41 pm
                  I come by to rattle the cages twice a month”

                  Until yaboi won!

                  Lol we all knew that was a lie at the time too!

                  1. I apologize that lock downs are back and I’m working from the home office once again.

                    I really try to stay away. This is my guiltiest of pleasures.

                    1. “I apologize that lock downs are back and I’m working from the home office once again.”

                      lol so weak

                    2. Anyone who wants to check can see you started spamming hardcore right after the election before any new lockdowns.

                    3. Pedo Jeffy, you love Biden, Marxism, and hill rape.

                    4. “…you love Biden, Marxism, and hill rape.”

                      Hill rape? I’m almost afraid to ask what that means. Must be something you cousinfuckers are into.

                    5. cousinfuckers

                      Respect your parents, Jeff..

                  2. Flattered that you are keeping such a close watch on me, though.

                    1. Well it’s hard not to now that you finally stopped hiding like a bitch because your candidate Biden won!

                2. Heh I have read some of those essays. That guy can write gonzo parody. It is like reading some of the old Hunter S stuff.

                  I am not cool enough to join in but the Glibs really found a home and a community. Good for them.

            2. Seriously? I’m totally invited to Glibs and Reasonoid listserv, but it’s just too much information. Too many egos. Keeping up with it is almost a job in itself. So I snipe here.

              But the Tennessee Beard got shafted? That’s news.

              1. No, he didn’t get shafted. His stories became PG. Which is like Tiger Woods only playing minigolf.

            3. I’ll have to call the Hamster of Doom to catch up on the gossip.

              1. Say hi to Heroic Mulatto. I like that dude.

                1. I’ll pass it along.

              2. Speaking of- did you ever hear back from John?

        2. Walking through giant pubic hairs like a bamboo forest… No! Noooo!1!!1!!

    2. Corn Pop; he was one bad dude, man.

      1. Even worse than T-Bone.

        1. Pickens?

    3. Anyone else getting a real “Bumfights” vibe from the comments section these days?

      1. It comes down to highly partisan Democrats and Republicans arguing on a libertarian comment section. Almost none of this has anything to do with libertarianism unless you buy the allegations of either side that the other side is either a communist or a fascist as the case may be.

        But it’s sure been entertaining to watch (mostly) from the sidelines.

        1. What is inescapable is how Reason scribes ape the government media in making generalized, undifferentiated asseverations that the Trump litigants have no evidence to support their claims.

          Note the refusal to examine the substance of the claims themselves.

          1. What are the claims? In court there is no mention of fraud and in public nothing but calls of fraud. There are procedural issues but many of the procedures were put in place by the people complaining about them.

            The only substantive claim is that Joe Biden won the election and President Trump is upset about that. This is not an issue for courts or legislature its an issue for Trump’s therapist to address.

            1. The Texas lawsuit has one claim that a statistician says the odds of Biden winning the contested states was “less than one in quadrillion”. Can the Supreme Court disbar lawyers that waste its time?

              Trump’s latest deranged tweet is a claim that he couldn’t have lost because bookies were giving odds that he was winning on election night. I’m not making that up. An actual President of the United Stated actually said that in this timeline of the multiverse.

              1. Nigger Harris was never disbarred even after falsifying evidence and confessions, and instructing other procecuters to falsify evidence and confessions to get guilty verdicts, so if you in the Gov no you can’t be disbarred

                1. I came here looking for a conservative / libertarian view, but I’m always baffled to see racism displayed openly like this.

              2. No it doesn’t. Fucking dumbass liar. Their main claim involves the electors clause. Their suit even says they don’t want the USSC to decide the vote, but rule on the constitutional claims of election changes made by the executive and judicial branches.

                But you’re so intentionally ignorant you didnt bother to even read the suit summary.

                1. I didn’t say it was their main claim. I said it was one of their claims.

                2. https://reason.com/volokh/2020/12/09/more-on-statistical-stupidity-at-scotus/

                  “Here is how that idiotic ‘one in a quadrillion’ estimate was derived.”

                3. https://reason.com/volokh/2020/12/08/statistical-nonsense-at-scotus/

                  “But I do know a little about statistics, having taught it for many years, and I assure you: there is no ‘commonly accepted statistical test’ that will, or can, demonstrate that the odds of Biden winning these four states, given Trump’s early lead, are so incredibly long. It is a fantasy.”

                4. And once again you expose yourself as a bluffer. Go check items 9, 10, and 11 in the lawsuit.

                5. https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/1336767769124155394?s=21

                  “The brief also argues that executive officials shouldn’t be able to mess with voting rules. But Texas — the plaintiff in this case, the state they’re supporting — did that very thing. The governor used executive power to extend the early voting period, among other things.”

                  1. It’s 18 states now WK. The narrative you guys are hawking is looking a little insipid.

                    1. Do we decide the merit of cases by counting the number of amicus curiae briefs filed? Are you aware that filing an amicus curiae brief is not “joining” a case, and many of those briefs from red state Attorneys General stop short of fully supporting Texas’ arguments.

              3. There is a Rule 11(b):
                (b) Representations to the Court. By presenting to the court a pleading, written motion, or other paper—whether by signing, filing, submitting, or later advocating it—an attorney or unrepresented party certifies that to the best of the person’s knowledge, information, and belief, formed after an inquiry reasonable under the circumstances:

                (1) it is not being presented for any improper purpose, such as to harass, cause unnecessary delay, or needlessly increase the cost of litigation;

                (2) the claims, defenses, and other legal contentions are warranted by existing law or by a nonfrivolous argument for extending, modifying, or reversing existing law or for establishing new law;

                (3) the factual contentions have evidentiary support or, if specifically so identified, will likely have evidentiary support after a reasonable opportunity for further investigation or discovery; and

                (4) the denials of factual contentions are warranted on the evidence or, if specifically so identified, are reasonably based on belief or a lack of information.

              4. As someone with a background in math — I’ve been particularly interested in claims around statistics. (It’s true that I do software rather than mathematical analysis for a living, but it’s still of interest.) The flaws in all those arguments are glaring and should be apparent on any basic examination.

            2. https://hereistheevidence.com

              You can get the death penalty in this country from one person picking you out of a lineup, but keep on with the “there is no evidence” DNC narrative. Doublethink lives.

              1. “You can get the death penalty in this country from one person picking you out of a lineup”
                Um, first you have to have a dead body (a crime)!

                If you see a light in the sky and can’t figure out what it is, its a UFO. Literally an “Unidentified Flying Object”. If you then claim little green men from other planets are visiting the earth, you are jumping to a conclusion that is unsupported by the facts. That is not reasonable and that is not evidence of alien visitation. Neither is thousands of blurry photographs.
                There are literally affidavits that said something like “Saw election worker roll their eyes when they saw a tRump ballot” followed by “I believe 1000s of tRump votes were not counted” No connection from what they saw, to a fraudulent act.
                Even the star witness – Mellissa Carone – stated in her first video affidavit, that she was not 100% sure, but 99% sure the computers were connected to the internet – even after admitting she was not aloud to touch them (if you hover over the connection icon on a windows machine it will tell you if you have a connection to the Internet not just a local network). She also testified that thousands of ballots were trucked in from two vans even though she didn’t actually see ballots. She was sure they must have been ballots. Apparently it was food for the workers… but hey, don’t let facts get in the way.

                As for the website you keep listing – I looked, and I cannot find a single verifiable piece of evidence. Listing the same tired web site over and over doesn’t make it more factual or more relevant. Its still a waste of time.
                How about a name of one person that committed fraud? (no, not the Republican that got caught, make it a Democrat)

                1. Suit by Georgia State Republican Chairman David Shafer lists:
                  2,560 felons
                  66,247 underage registrants
                  2,423 people who were not on the state’s voter rolls
                  4,926 voters who had registered in another state after they registered in Georgia, making them ineligible
                  395 people who cast votes in another state for the same election
                  15,700 voters who had filed a national change of address forms without re-registering
                  40,279 people who had moved counties without re-registering
                  1,043 people who claimed the physical impossibility of a P.O. Box as their address
                  98 people who registered after the deadline
                  10,315 people who were deceased on election day (8,718 of whom had been registered as dead before their votes were accepted)
                  305,701 people who, according to state records, applied for an absentee ballot past the deadline (more than 180 days before the election)
                  92 voters whose absentee ballots were cast before they even requested one
                  13 people who weren’t registered voted with absentee ballots
                  2,664 absentee ballots were mailed from elections offices before the earliest date permitted by law
                  50 peoples’ absentee ballots were counted despite being returned and accepted before the earliest allowed date
                  2 people whose ballot applications were rejected voted anyway
                  217 people who voted by absentee ballots were “applied for, issued, and received all on the same day.”
                  The claim must have these people’s names, otherwise they couldn’t know that the fraud took place.

              2. Thanks for the link.

              3. “Claim that maiden name was used to vote in election.” Those bastards! I’ve gone through a bunch of these, and you get tired of seeing all the erroneous, irrelevant and just dumb stuff. If there’s actual evidence in there, they should get rid of all the garbage, because no one will ever see it buried in all the nonsense.

                I see they finally got around to deleting my favorite one, which was supposedly proof of USPS misbehavior, but linked to video…of the Grinch sorting his mail.

              4. Someone previously pointed me to that, and I went through them. Every claim I looked at was utter garbage. I mean — easily debunked. Choose a specific one you think can be defended, investigate with an open mind (i.e. look for a fact check) … and you’ll find it’s much weaker than you’d expected.

                This is basically the Gish Gallop strategy, and it doesn’t work in court.

          2. Clearly, the lizardmen have infiltrated Reason just a deeply as they have infiltrated the American court system.

            1. One day one of your idiot comments will actually be amusing and not just ignorant.

          3. The 46 or so courtroom losses (and not just losses, but losses accompanied by some of the most critical and scathing rulings ever produced) are enough of a record that any more claims can be dismissed without examination.

            If you don’t like that, I will refer you to a children’s fable called “The Boy Who Cried Wolf”.

            1. Lefties dont understand how dismissals in the lower courts get all the legal actions before the SCOTUS quicker for consolidation.

              18 states have now joined Texas. Poor unreason.

              1. Except that that is not how appeals work.

                1. Your citations fell off.

                  sCOTUS hearing election cases from 18+ states including AZ.

              2. Are you confusing appellate jurisdiction with original jurisdiction? Texas is seeking to invoke the latter.

              3. Hah! When the cases are coming up from the state courts, the Supreme Court is acting as an appellate court, and they don’t rule on the facts, they rule on the law. So if the fact finders, at the state level, are saying that the evidence is hot garbage, the appeal doesn’t really go anywhere.

                The Texas case is not an appeal, it’s an original jurisdiction case. It could have been filed without any of the prior cases. The strategy here is to throw everything at the wall to see what sticks, simultaneously riling up their base…and getting over $200 million in donations from them in the process.

                1. The SCoTUS can consider and decide on anything.

                  Biden has lost and lefties are scared as fuck their second coup attempt failed.

                  1. The person trying to stay in power despite losing the election (i.e. trying to conduct a coup, however incompetently) is Trump. I have confidence in the strength of our country — as I did in 2016.

                    Biden will be inaugurated on Jan 20th, 2021.

          4. There is no need to examine the substance of the claims because they have been declared invalid by Top.Men in government and the media. Let your rulers free your minds for thinking about other things, like food trucks and pot.

          5. The courts – and I say this as a Trump supporter – have examined the evidence provided.

            And . . . bupkis

            1. As I said, Top. Men.

            2. Haha. The courts helped trump by not bogging his claims down with a trial.

              SCOTUS here we come! The constitution strikes again.

          6. All the evidence I’ve looked at is garbage — generally it would fail in cross examination and under any reasonable evidentiary standard. In fact, this article links to an opinion which includes evaluation of the evidence (or lack thereof).

            The problem isn’t that we haven’t evaluated the evidence — it’s that we’ve evaluated it and there’s no evidence to support claims of widespread fraud.

        2. “But it’s sure been entertaining to watch (mostly) from the sidelines.”
          It’s the best entertainment of the season.

        3. There might be like one Democrat, Tony. It’s highly-partisan Republicans vs. libertarians who think Trump sucks.

          1. Exactly. I voted for Gary J twice. I voted Rupert in 2012 for Indiana, Rex Bell in 2016, and Donald Rainwater in 2020. Anytime there was a libertarian candidate for anything in my state, I voted for them – blind party allegiance? Maybe. Although, I did not vote for Jorgensen. I just wanted to piss off my parents who voted for Trump, so I voted Biden. LMAO fuck em

            1. I like how the leftitarians think bowing to party and no thought makes them actual libertarians. You sell your convictions out because back the cake johnson and anti racist jo tell you to. That is just embarrassing.

              1. I like how the little trump cucks think that literally the ONLY one and true answer to being a libertarian is to follow their cult leader because they just love him so much!

                And a history of voting for L’s forever isnt good enough. No, the only one and true way to be a L is to vote Republican, and vote Trump. That is it. If you actually vote L, you arent an L, you are a democrat.

                Speaking of all these L’s, maybe you can quit crying (tear barrels are filled and need restock at this point) and take the L you earned by following a totalitarian wanna be, and lifelong loser. Get a better cult daddy to follow next time and not a guy who has lost in literally every endeavor he attempted, now adding “running country” to that list

              2. You’re the one who wanted us to sell our convictions to the GOP.

              3. No, because I actually supported Johnson’s policies, and thought his record as governor of New Mexico proved he was good at what he did. And lots of people agreed with me. You don’t get the most votes for a libertarian candidate just by party loyalty.

          2. Youre not a liberation you lefty shit.

          3. It’s highly-partisan Republicans vs. libertarians

            You’re no fucking libertarian. Quit trying to gaslight everyone, White Knight.

        4. As always Leo nails it in three sentences.

          1. Quit congratulating your sockpuppets, Jeff.

            1. Quit masturbating in your socks, loser.

      2. Word.

      3. In this Bumfights analogy, who is paying the bums to fight for our entertainment?

        1. Alien pod bums.

        2. Charles Koch ever since his human hunts were scuttled. See after Epstein’s private island was raided; Charles realized that he was no longer safe from the long arm of the DOJ, so now he just trolls the comment section under various accounts.

      4. It comes down to Commies who work at unreason posting nonsense and then unreason bots backing up that nonsense.

        Then the few legacy Libertarians hang around to challenge the Commies. Some Republicans hang around too to give their perspective.

    4. I always knew you were a perverted freak.

    5. I have been eating popcorn. LOTS of popcorn, for a couple of weeks now. This fiasco be the best “reality show” ever presented.

      1. Biden is gonna have to tell all those cabinet members he picked that they dont have a job anymore.

        And no Hunter Biden is officially under federal investigation.

        HAHA Democrats are going down in flames.

    6. Hey Reason. It’s now up to 18 states including Texas who are suing.
      You want me to write an article about that? Or are you censoring it?
      https://hereistheevidence.com

      1. Google is censoring it. Any video that mentions election fraud is subject to removal.

      2. Unclear on what an amicus curiae brief is?

        1. It means “friend of the court.” Basically, “I’m not a party to this matter, but here’s my opinion/input.”

    7. Poor Damon and the Commies at unreason.

      I warned you folks.

      12th Amendment here we come. The Constitution strikes again!

      1. Reason’s resident idiot strikes again.

        1. Fuck off, Jeff.

  2. This article suggests a presumption that if an executive appoints a judge, then that judge should be beholden to them and expect a pay day. Forgive my naivete, but I thought judges were appointed in accordance with their judicial philosophy, bench slaps notwithstanding.

    1. Stop being reasonable.

    2. It’s relevant because such loyalty is exactly what Trump seemed to be relying on. He repeatedly made comments in briefings and on twitter that he expected the supreme court to decide the election, and so ACB being confirmed was of the utmost importance.

      It seems perfectly reasonable to note when that scenario does not play out as the president expected.

      1. I mean he retweeted a picture of ACB with laser beams of righteousness coming out of her eyes. An actual President of the United States in our timeline of the multiverse actually did that.

        1. And he did this long after Allen Funt died, so there is less than one in quadrillion odds that it Allen Funt is going to pop out and reveal it was all a prank.

          1. I love how he fucks with you progs. I wish people had treated you all like that 30 years ago, before you metastasized.

            1. Allen Funt?

      2. Trump actually tweeted the following today:

        “No candidate has ever won both Florida and Ohio and lost. I won them both, by a lot! #SupremeCourt”

        The kicker is his tagging it with #SupremeCourt, like it is a solid legal argument. Your honors, I request you throw out the results of the sixth game of the World Series because no right hand hitter who plays third base has ever gotten a hit in the ninth inning with two outs.

        https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1336691981981016066?s=21

        1. And he’s wrong. Nixon (his role model) won Florida and Ohio and lost.

          1. You and your facts again… might I remind you that Herr tRump plays by alternative facts?

            BTW, that was a good one, learned something new.

          2. I’ve always hated Nixon, but that particular election was frauded back then too.
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1960_United_States_presidential_election#Controversies

            Vote fraud. It’s in your DNA.

      3. It’s relevant because such loyalty is exactly what Trump seemed to be relying on.

        So when he started appointing judges in 2016, he knew people would be discouraged from the polls by COVID, knew dems would push the mail in vote, knew he would back in-person voting, knew they’d commit fraud/impropriety on video and leave all kinds of statistical evidence around, knew he’d lose at the popular level and in which states, but didn’t know that his judges wouldn’t back him?

        That’s some pretty 12D chess for a fucking moron.

        1. You have it backwards. Obviously he was going to appoint judges that matched his base’s ideology. He’s NOW counting on them to be loyal because he wants them to overturn the election. It’s not that he was smart enough to see it coming.

          It’s like if you got elected mayor and then got shitfaced drunk and crashed into a wall. Then a cop shows up and you’re expecting him to let you off because you hired him. It’s not that you were PLANNING on getting drunk and crashing, you just think that loyalty should be more important than ethics. The only difference between the crash and the “election fraud” is that there’s actual evidence of the crash. “I mean, I drove past this wall hundreds of times, so obviously the odds are enormous that I did it again without hitting it. Fake news!”

          1. Ooof. You just logic bitch-slapped that poor guy.

        2. Trump is supposedly a “moron” but he beats democrats, and I mean all democrats, for 4+ years at the game. Democrats must be pretty stupid if they cannot defeat a moron.

          1. “Beating” them, which in this case means “somehow getting away with absolutely blatant abuses repeatedly and somehow not ending up in prison, and beating them by somehow being a major party nominee, is apparently (revised opinion since 2016) not hard to do when so many people like you are around to fall for the same tricks that used car salesmen rely on, except even MORE blatantly cheesy and obvious. You realize you are also trolled by him too. You do realize that, right? OR do you sit there in Georgia thinking “I am certain that this (supposed) billionaire from Manhattan truly does give a shit about us normal folk here in Georgia?” He “loves” you because you fall for/love him. If you think he “loves you” for good/benign reasons, you would be the fish at a poker table, the mark at a carnival, etc. etc.

            Also easy to “beat them” when you have no morals and can defy every single facet of the “family values BS the (R) party used to use to cow its base yet somehow get away with it.

            You guys love to say he “unmasked” people which I will say is true….except you conveniently left out the part where he ALSO unmasked just how utterly depraved and power hungry the (R) leadership is (and how easily cowed they are, along with the base). He rubs it in your face as much as the faces of those who despise him.

    3. Also relevant is that Trump has repeatedly made such remarks about other judges looking at other aspects of his highly litigated life.

      “Mexican judge” etc.

      1. Doesn’t matter how we might speculate as to how Trump does or does not think about such things; the judges are in, and that is so much better than if the 2016 election had turned out differently; in fact, I believe the federal judiciary is the only thing standing between us and a dystopic nightmare come to life.

    4. Clearly said presumption is also shared by lc1789, as he consistently asserts that ACB will, in essence, ” do what she was put there to do” aka get Trump in one way or the other.

  3. I get paid over $190 per hour working from home with 2 kids at home. I never thought I’d be able to do it but my best friend earns over 10k a month doing this and she convinced me to try. The potential with this is endless. Heres what I’ve been doing.. Here is More information.

  4. Fish gotta fly, birds gotta swim, suers gotta sue.

    1. sewers?

      1. Well, they are lawyers….

    2. Biden gotta win or he gets indicted.

      1. Indicted for what?

        1. You will find out. unreason wont cover it, Im sure.

  5. Hello Reason. Where is the article on the ten states joining in on Texas v. Pennsylvania on the SCOTUS docket?

    Regardless if Trump loses every case, every single person in this country with an IQ over 80 knows Biden’s votes were bought and paid for by Soros et al., the cheating was massive, it was both digital and analog, and it gave a man with obvious dementia who introduced his granddaughter to the media on Election Day as his dead son, Beau, and said “Thank you for electing him to the senate.” The Big Guy got more votes than Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton. Yeah. https://hereistheevidence.com

    1. Again with all of this massive fraud that everyone knows about, yet somehow there is no evidence that any court has accepted.

      1. When you don’t bother looking you get to claim ignorance. Your entire modus operandi.

        1. To be fair though, the Trump team *is* looking. And they are out there insisting they have found fraud. But then they enter no evidence into the record. So what am I to assume? That they just aren’t looking hard enough, or that they couldn’t find any evidence they are comfortable putting in front of a judge?

          1. To be fair though the only evidence you would actually accept is sequestered by various state agencies refusing to allow discovery.

            But please continue.

            1. WTF are you talking about? Which specific evidence are they unable to get? Can you point me to an actual petition from the Trump team (or their allies) actually requesting some sort of discovery? Because pretty much every case I have seen so far made no such requests- just demands that the court invalidate results.

              But please, enlighten me. A month ago, you were insisting that there was all this clear evidence of fraud. Now you are insisting that there must be evidence of fraud but the states won’t let us see it? Then how do we know there is evidence?

              1. He knows there is evidence because he doesn’t like the outcome if there isn’t.

                1. Jesse was built to spout Republican talking points. You’re asking an NPC to do something for which he wasn’t programmed.

              2. Overt refuses to read any of the 50+ election complaints.

                1. LC is another NPC. But like the alpha version someone forgot to remove from the code.

          2. In Georgia, they’ve identified “voters” who cast ballots that were illegal (fraudulent) for the following reasons:
            2,560 felons
            66,247 underage registrants
            2,423 people who were not on the state’s voter rolls
            4,926 voters who had registered in another state after they registered in Georgia, making them ineligible
            395 people who cast votes in another state for the same election
            15,700 voters who had filed a national change of address forms without re-registering
            40,279 people who had moved counties without re-registering
            1,043 people who claimed the physical impossibility of a P.O. Box as their address
            98 people who registered after the deadline
            10,315 people who were deceased on election day (8,718 of whom had been registered as dead before their votes were accepted)
            305,701 people who, according to state records, applied for an absentee ballot past the deadline (more than 180 days before the election)
            92 voters whose absentee ballots were cast before they even requested one
            13 people who weren’t registered voted with absentee ballots
            2,664 absentee ballots were mailed from elections offices before the earliest date permitted by law
            50 peoples’ absentee ballots were counted despite being returned and accepted before the earliest allowed date
            2 people whose ballot applications were rejected voted anyway
            217 people who voted by absentee ballots were “applied for, issued, and received all on the same day.”
            Enough evidence for one state?
            Possible there are more states like this?
            Any guesses who those votes were for.

            1. No, it’s not evidence at all. It’s a claim. Where did it come from? What’s the source? Give me a name of one of these thousands of people.

              To debunk one of these, Georgians who are under age may register to vote if they are going to be 18 come election day, so that may be the source of that particular bit of chaff.

              I’ve chased down countless claims of fraud and they all turn out to be garbage. I’m sick of doing it, so somebody’s going to have to lay out or at least bother to link to actual evidence, not just vomit numbers they read in a meme that their QAnon friend posted.

              1. It’s been spread from one right wing propaganda site to another and then tweeted and shared…it’s a text book example of the echo chamber effect…

                1. Its public information.

                  1. Your mom’s vagina is public information, too. Step back.

        2. Courts don’t need to go looking. They’re not investigators.

          The plaintiffs are expected to *bring their evidence* with them. Not rely on the court to find it for them.

          The plaintiffs have repeatedly failed to do so.

          1. Funny that these courts are horrible until the dismiss trump legal claims. Then they are infallible courts. Hahha.

        3. OK let’s try easy mode. Yes or no:
          1) Do you believe Hugo Chavez influenced the 2020 election?
          2) Do you believe that Dominion changed votes in counties where Dominion machines are literally not even used?
          3) Do you believe that all ballots that indicated a Biden vote should be overturned, even if said ballots also showed votes for (R) candidates for Congress?
          4) Do you find troublesome Texas’ (and similarly situated states) changing of its election procedures, or only the states that have declared Biden the winner?

          Everyone should have to answer these four questions before even saying another word.

      2. Poor Democrats. They would have hurt the trump campaign by bogging lawsuits down with trials.

        Instead they dismissed the lawsuits so now the SCOTUS gets to pick from 50+ lawsuits and an 18+ state constitutional legal action.

        1. Dude- it was a good run. You had me thinking you were serious for 3 years. I don’t see how you can go further with this schtick without becoming completely absurd. I mean I doubt anyone is going to believe you are genuine if you are insisting Trump is on his way back in February.

          1. I warned ya. The democrat fraud might have worked with RBG but shes gone, as I predicted.

            18+ states joined texas. Read an excellent assessment of the texas claim on Federalist.com

    2. Yes, the votes were bought and paid for by Soros. The problem is that it was all legal. Soros put so much money into 5 cities that those cities could turn out nearly 90% of their votes. If the Democrats can continue to do that, then the GOP as a legitimate competitor is pretty much finished.

      1. Nope. Soros owns Dominion Voting. They can change the votes with algorithms and that is why some states ended up with decimals after their votes were counted. You don’t get decimals in honest voting.

        1. I don’t know the exact source for your claim of decimals in vote totals, but if it is the data set scraped from the New York Times and supplied by Edison Research, which has been used in a number of flawed analyses claiming statistical irregularities, then the reason for decimal points is not Dominion algorithms, but a lack of precision in the data set itself. To be more specific, the data set I referenced above contains total number of votes cast and the fraction of those votes cast for Biden and Trump, but not the actual number of votes cast for Biden and Trump. The latter has to be computed by multiplying the fraction for each candidate by the total number of votes. The problem is that the fraction is only reported to three decimal places, and so is not precise enough to arrive at the true number of votes cast for Biden and Trump, and it is quite easy to get at incorrect vote totals as a result, including fractional votes.

          1. Guess who owns GEMS vote counting software? Yes, Dominion. Who owns Dominion? Soros. Here is what was said about GEMS in 2016: “This report summarizes the results of our review of the GEMS election management system, which counts approximately 25 percent of all votes in the United States. The results of this study demonstrate that a fractional vote feature is embedded in each GEMS application which can be used to invisibly, yet radically, alter election outcomes by pre-setting desired vote percentages to redistribute votes. This tampering is not visible to election observers, even if they are standing in the room and watching the computer. Use of the decimalized vote feature is unlikely to be detected by auditing or canvass procedures, and can be applied across large jurisdictions in less than 60 seconds.”

            1. LOL! The nation got pwned by Richard Pryor’s trick in Superman 3.

          2. And this: https://blackboxvoting.org/fraction-magic-4/
            Also from 2016 because all that is available in searches now are MSM articles telling you that this was the BEST CLEANEST SAFEST election ever in the history of the universe, which is a total hoax, just like Russia Russia Russia turned out to be.

            1. I’m unclear as to what this is claiming. Can you help me?

              1. The results of this study demonstrate that a fractional vote feature is embedded in each GEMS application which can be used to invisibly, yet radically, alter election outcomes by pre-setting desired vote percentages to redistribute votes. This tampering is not visible to election observers, even if they are standing in the room and watching the computer. Use of the decimalized vote feature is unlikely to be detected by auditing or canvass procedures, and can be applied across large jurisdictions in less than 60 seconds.

              2. Which part of that paragraph do you not understand?

                1. I guess I don’t understand why the decimalization feature is the key to this, since you have to round to a whole number anyway.

                  And I don’t understand how this would be invisible to observers or not detected in a hand recount.

                  The claim is votes can be switched when being tabulated to achieve a desired proportion, but if you selected even a relatively small random sample of ballots, counted them by eye, and then fed them through the machine, you would see this vote flipping happening. The more radical the change the easier it would be to detect in this way.

                  1. Many states use voting machines that are touch screens. When I voted I inserted a piece of paper and got nothing in return – no receipt, nothing. It would be beyond easy to stop tabulating 150 million votes in the middle of the night and insert code into either the server or the machine to alter the outcome. How would that be trackable? Youtube has a video of Dominion exec Eric Coomer explaining how to do it. Until they censor it…

                    1. There are only like three states that don’t have statewide paper ballot requirements. You need to put your energy into fixing your state. All the others have their paper trail act together.

                    2. Which state are you in?

                      According to Ballotpedia, the only states that used direct recording electronic systems without a voter verified paper audit trail were Texas, Kansas, Louisiana, Indiana, Kentucky, Tennessee, Mississippi, and New Jersey.

                      https://ballotpedia.org/Voting_methods_and_equipment_by_state

                      All but New Jersey voted for Trump.

                    3. Regarding Eric Coomer, are you referring to this video?
                      https://youtu.be/TOGwSXU-GDQ

                      Because I hear him say nothing of the sort. Or are you referring to a different video?

                    4. Sorry, I misread your comment.

                      So you did get a piece of paper. I presume it had your vote marked on it, and you verified it?

                      If that is the case, and someone inserted code into into either the server or machine to alter the outcome, it would be trackable by selecting some number of ballots (could be all of them), looking at what the paper you fed into the machine said, tabulating that, and then feeding the paper into the machines again. If the by-eye count matches the machine count, no votes were being changed. This should also reproduce the original tabulation.

                    5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbCmq0jPUxY
                      by Sharon Meroni,
                      (Sep. 1, 2016) — On Friday, August 26th, during a meeting at the Illinois State Board of Elections, the Vice President of Engineering for Dominion Voting, Dr. Eric Coomer*, was asked if it was possible to bypass election systems software and go directly to the data tables that manage systems running elections in Illinois. His response was, “Yes, if they have access.”

                      Bypassing the election systems software means whoever has access can potentially manipulate the vote without many risks of detection. So the question needs to be asked, who has access to these data tables?

                      We asked Dr. Coomer that question. Dr. Coomer replied, ‘Vendors, election officials, and others who need to be granted access.’

                      This is explosive information. Dr. Coomer’s statement is an admission that various vendors, election officials, and others have access to the back end data tables that permit bypassing the operating system’s configuration. It is notable that when someone accesses these systems from a data table, their actions are not logged by the system; thereby making detection much more problematic. This contradicts Dr. Coomer’s assurances that the system is secure.

                    6. So that is the same video I linked to, and I never hear him say anything about bypassing software and going to data tables or about “vendors, election officials, and others who need to be granted access.”

                      Listen to the video and tell me if you hear him say anything about that.

                    7. “can potentially”

                    8. I’m a software engineer. We have a saying: “It’s only bytes.” Meaning, you “can potentially” make software do anything.

          3. You are still pretending you have any standing on statistical analysis even though you completely misunderstood the substack piece. Lol.

            1. I’m happy for you to address the points I brought up about that analysis. Do you need me to repeat them here?

              1. Another Coomer video. There is expert testimony from a Princeton professor in a 2016 article you can easily find that also explains how easy it is to hack the machines and that they do connect to the internet (obviously) even though people were told they do not.
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL5mtqa4XDM

                1. This video shows a feature that can be used by legal adjudicators working in accordance with state allow to mark ballots that the machines couldn’t read. The examples shown are bubbles not fully filled in and a voter circling their choices instead of filling in a bubble.

                  1. *state law

          4. And that is one of the problems. There are plenty of tRump supporters who are bad at math, being fooled by the tRump supporters that are making boatloads of money on this.

        2. “Soros owns Dominion Voting.”

          Um, this is the first I am hearing about this, and an extraordinary claim. Do you have a cite for this that isn’t on Reddit or 8chan?

          1. I just provided you with two links, one from PR newswire and one from the Washington Post. It says my comment is “awaiting moderation” but if it gets past Reason, you will see that Soros does indeed own Dominion through his involvement with Staples Street Capital.

            1. Oh see, thats weird because I find conspiracies claiming that Soros owns Smartmatic, not Dominion. So does he own both? Because they are not the same company and one does not own the other. Their financial records which they released shows this to be true.

              1. Lord Malloch Brown (Soros close friend and on board of Open Society) owns Smartmatic.

                1. He is the chair of the board of the parent company that owns Smartmatic. And Smartmatic does not own Dominion, or vice versa.
                  https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/12/06/george-soros-appoints-chair-of-smartmatic-parent-company-to-lead-open-society-foundations/

                  1. “He is the chair of the board of the parent company that owns Smartmatic.” Yes.
                    Soros owns Dominion (which owns the GEMS software that tabulates ballots) via his ownership stake in Staples Street Capital which spun off of Carlyle Group.

                    1. Wouldn’t it be more accurate to say that a company Soros invested in, invested in a company, that invested in Dominion? “Ownership” doesn’t seem like the right word to use to me, and there seem to be a few degrees of separation.

                    2. LOL, you are funny. You should take this comedy routine on the road.

            2. FYI, Reason filters out any comment with more than one link. You comment will be in moderation until the next ice age. You need to post two separate comments.

              1. Thank you.
                Staples Street Capital is a spin off of the Carlyle Group, which Soros funded in Washington DC: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/business/1993/12/08/soros-pledges-100-million-in-carlyle-fund/c679195a-cb3c-45fb-a5f2-4ba0cbf8a583/

                Reply

                1. “Staples Street Capital is a spin off of the Carlyle Group”

                  This is not mentioned in the article. Do you have an actual link to show that Soros has some sort of ownership interest in Staples Street Capital? I mean there isn’t even anything to say there was a spin out.

                2. Oh dear.

                  Soros isn’t even a noteworthy shareholder in the Carlyle Group. That investment was in a totally different spin-out fund- the Carlyle Buyout fund. The actual parent company- Carlyle Group- is staffed largely by notable people of the Right wing- Bush appointees and the like.

                  Saying that Soros owns Dominion because he invested in one of MANY funds managed by a company that later spun out a company who then bought Dominion is not really good reasoning.

                  1. It would be lot easier to prove the obvious if Google didn’t; censor everything, but here you go:

                    “Dominion Voting Systems, which is at the center of the #Glitchgate scandal in the contested 2020 election, was acquired by private equity firm Staple Street Capital in July 2018.
                    Staple Street Equity was founded by former members of the George Soros-funded Carlyle Group. Executive Director of Carlyle Group, William Kennard, is director of Staple Street Capital.”
                    https://www.worldtribune.com/who-counted-the-votes-who…/

                    HELLO. They cheated. I have a photo with every single Dem from Obama to Clinton to Schumer to Pelosi to I could go on but you get it.

                    1. A photo with SOROS I should have said…Soros loves dem Dems.

            3. Oh, it’s Tulpa?! I should have known. He got me!

            4. Next you’re going to tell me about the server in Germany that was retrieved.

              Only to have that debunked by the US Army itself. But you want to call members of our Armed Forces liars, right?

              1. Col. Vindman on line 2…

                1. Ok, I will go down this red herring rabbit hole.

                  What exactly did Vindman lie about?

                  Be careful or I will invoke the conservative grief warrior talking point that is “I have a family member who is a member of the military.” Which I actually do. So therefore, I am automatically a patriot by extension.

            5. One link per comment or you’ll never get out of moderation.

        3. now do the counties that literally don’t even use Dominion machines but are still claimed as being “manipulated by them”

      2. Poor unreason. You can always tell Lefty sarcasm. Its poorly done.

        I cant wait for the unreason articles about orangeman’s second term as president.

    3. I wish all of you brilliant Trump cult legal minds would head on over to Volokh. There are a bunch of actual law professors and practicing lawyers over there that you can ask these questions of.

      You will not like what they all have to say, though.

      1. Law professors: 100% liberal.
        Lawyers: 50-50 split like the rest of the country, but the higher paid ones who work for Big Law and thus Wall Street and China et al: 100% liberal.

        1. Fuck off Tulpa

          1. Brilliance! Of all the 200,000 words in the English language you strung those three together. Masterful. Shots fired. Gauntlet thrown. White flag waved. Fuck off Tulpa. Finis.

        2. Go on and talk to them over there, then.

        3. You did a phone-a-thon survey of all law professors?

          Do you want me to embarass you in 5 minutes when I pull up law professors that are registered Republicans that voted for Trump?

          Fuck it. Here is a short list that I literally pulled up in 10 seconds.

          George W. Dent, Jr. [Case Western]
          Jonathan H. Adler [Case Western)
          Randy E. Barnett [Georgetown]
          Josh Blackman [South Texas]
          Gerard Bradley [Notre Dame]
          Robert Cooter [UC-Berkeley]
          Richard Duncan [Nebraska]
          Scott FitzGibbon [Boston College]
          Brian T. Fitzpatrick [Vanderbilt]
          Elizabeth Price Foley [Florida International]
          Gail Heriot [San Diego]
          James Lindgren [Northwestern]
          John McGinnis [Nothwestern]
          Gregory S. McNeal [Pepperdine]
          Nadia Medzel [Washington University]
          Seth Oranburg [Duquesne]
          James Phillips
          Cassandra B. Robertson [Case Western]
          Nicholas Quinn Rosenkranz [Georgetown]
          Ilya Somin (George Mason]
          Lee Strang [Toledo]
          Eugene Volokh [UCLA]
          Kevin Walsh [Richmond]
          Lynn Wardle [BYU]
          Steven Ware [Kansas]
          Amy L. Wax [Pennsylvania]
          Steven Willis [Florida]
          Todd J, Zywicki [George Mason]

          What was that about your absolute claim of 100%?

          Hmm, guess you were wrong. Care to admit it?

          1. Wrong about what? I said to go over to Volokh if you want to talk about these cases.

          2. Never mind, I didn’t trace the little dotted lines well enough.

          3. I was wrong. Where did you get that list?

            1. Oh wait. You found 27 out of the 8200 law professors in the USA, or .33%, but there are probably a few more. As long as we are it, 93% of the media identify as Democrats, although I imagine it to be higher. And it’s likely 100% when you get to Big Tech and universities. Imagine admitting you were a Republican when applying for a job at Google or Twitter or Facebook. We should only be allowed to think one thing!

              1. you’re a delightful version of unhinged

              2. 90% of statistics are made up. And you’re claim of 100% of law professors are liberal was most definitely made up.

                So uhh, how about not providing shitty arguments?

          4. Ilya Somin ensorsed Biden.

            1. Oh, so you’re automatically a liberal democrat, because you like Biden more than Trump? Hmm. Seems a bit shaky grounds.

        4. I’m sure Josh Blackman would be surprised to hear he’s a liberal hack. Same with Jonathan Adler. They both blog at the Volokh conspiracy page by the way (and apparently voted for Trump according to the list below).

          1. Blackman probably did. Adler is #nevertrump.

            That said, those names are a fraction of the Republican law professors, even just at elite schools. I mean, who lists GOP law professors and leaves off John Yoo? Adrian Vermeule? Federalist Society Chair Steven Calabresi?

            1. Didn’t say it was complete or exhaustive. It was just a list that pulled up on the first link when I googled “conservative law professors”.

              If it is that easy to find a list of a small number, I can believe that there are plenty more.

              1. I know. It was directed at the source you pulled it from, not you.

                1. Don’t you know all comments are taken personally on the internet? lol

                  And it wasn’t just a list of conservative/libertarian law professors.

                  This group just happened to sign some declaration about their profession.

                  1. OK. That makes sense.

                    1. Sorry, should have clarified that earlier.

    4. I’m not sure your IQ even stretches into double digits homie.

  6. My favorite part was when SCROTUS didn’t even both explaining why they were rejecting the PA case. The reasoning was clear: “We’re rejecting this because fuck you.”

    1. FYTW is available to all branches of government.

      1. It’s nice to see the Judicial branch issue a FYTW to the Executive branch. FYTWs are usually given to us little people.

        1. Wait until the Judicial branch gives a fuck you to Biden.

          You’re fired Joe Biden!

          1. Good luck with that.

            1. Democrats are scared as fuck.

              1. Wow, you have a super power that allows you to read people’s emotions? Isn’t that the black lady on DCs The Flash?

    2. As I understand, typically only judges who dissent from denial of cert explain their reasoning, while the denial is issued per curiam. I assume that’s also typical for denial of injunctive relief, as in the PA case.

      1. When a court entertains an application for preliminary injunctive relief, it typically makes findings as to the four factors to be considered.

    3. They didn’t reject the Pa case fuckwit. They rejected emergency relief. The case is still ongoing.

  7. it’s like you dummies don’t know how the court system works.

  8. Defendant States’ combined 72 electoral votes…will determine the outcome of the election

    Can someone who knows more than me explain how this will be viewed legally? The same thing could be said about California, or the combination of New York and Minnesota, or many many other combinations. Or, if this lawsuit were successful, then Texas and Florida could be said to decide the election.

    It seems like a better rationale is that PA, GA, WI, and MI are the only states that violated the Constitution by the way they changed their election results (according to the plaintiffs). But I actually don’t know if that is true — did any other states change election laws in a way that would be illegal according to the theory presented in the Texas lawsuit? I’m especially curious about states that ended up going for Trump.

    1. It won’t be viewed legally, not for long. This is political theater, not the practice of law. Republican AGs (who invariably have political ambitions) are trying to score points. Democrat AGs did the same thing with emoluments cases. The reality is that all of the electoral votes determine the outcome of the election. The Supreme Court does messaging. The dismissal of the PA case was a clear signal that said, “We’re not diving into this cesspool.”

      1. The Pennsylvania case was not dismissed. The Court denied injunctive relief, but left the case there on its merits. Sorry.

        1. What Pennsylvania case has not been dismissed? I believe you are mistaken.

        2. They didn’t “leave the case there on its merits.” They denied injunctive relief. The only option left to the plaintiffs is to petition for certiorari. That usually takes months. Since Biden will take office in January, the case will be moot.

    2. If you want expert analysis, read the Volokh Conspiracy blog which you can find by clicking on the Volokh tab.

      1. Thanks. I have read some of their articles, but haven’t seen that particular point addressed.

    3. I was wondering about the same thing. I doubt the Texas AG looked at all 50 states before making a claim those four. Hopefully, he did enough due diligence to make sure Texas itself doesn’t have any transgressions against the electors clause or any county to county variation in its election procedures.

      1. Poor unreason is scared shitless.

        Biden lost.

      2. https://reason.com/volokh/2020/12/09/additional-filings-in-and-additional-thoughts-on-the-texas-election-suit/

        “On the one hand, the brief claims numerous non-legislative officials violated the constitution by making changes to election rules to account for Covid-19 (much like happened in Texas too, shhhh!)”

    4. States can demand that other states follow the US Constitution which they are also bound to follow. Only state Legislatures can change election laws. Governors and election officials changed election law to make it easier for massive Democrats election fraud.

      That is the summation of the Texas standing.

      1. That doesn’t answer any of my questions.

      2. Your understanding of standing is sadly mistaken. Where is the injury in fact to the State of Texas from other state officials´ allegedly changing election laws? If anyone has standing, it is the legislators of the affected states.

        1. Poor unreason bots. No citations ever.

  9. we are living under tyranny and you people want to keep dunking on trump. While their’s case after case of real people being denied their livelihood by courts and bureaucratic edict.

    1. We are bit more concerned with the sitting president, with the support of most of the Republican party trying to throw out a legal election and thus shit on the entire concept of our democracy. People not being able to go to bars or movie theaters or pack churches for a few months in order to protect the public health is less critical.

      1. Liberty is less critical? Go back to your commie scum sites.

        1. “Liberty” does not include the right to infect others with a virus.

          1. I am not asking for such right. You need to prove that I have the virus and that I will infect others. Otherwise you are infringing my rights to free movement and association. When you can prove that without invading my privacy, then we can talk.

            1. Thats the same tired argument people used when restaurants and such banned smoking. I was a supervisor at Chrysler in their die shop for a year, those guys were so pissed that Chrysler said they couldn’t smoke inside the building. “You’re taking away my freedoms. WAHH WAHH WAHH!”

              I told them I get paid to work here, I don’t get paid to breath in your smoke.

              Same goes for now. I get paid to work where I am free of being infected from someone else with the virus. If you have symptoms or have been around others that have tested positive, don’t come to work and spread it around here. I do understand the hardships of not being able to work – I was unemployed for several months 4 years ago, but damn, dude… I fortunately work for a company that takes care of those people who have to quarantine for 14 days. If only more corporations cared about their employees like mine. But hey thats the free market capitalism at work for you. Right? If your work fucks you over, just go get another job that won’t, right?

              Phew, thats a lot to unpack.

              1. Yeah. Youre not a libertarian either. Walking around asymltimatically is not an intentional act to commit harm. You want to lock people down who are healthy or asymptomatic. Youre not a libertarian

                1. If you refuse to wear a mask and social distance then you are intentionally trying to commit harm. We know very well that people can spread it before they have symptoms.

                  1. Bullshit. We dont wear masks in Georgia and we are just fine.

                2. No. My comment was specifically addressed at places of businesses. I never once said anything about government restricting you. Did I? Nope.

                  Private sector always pushes the best solutions.

              2. Your analogy is terrible. Chrysler banned people from inflicting smoke on you by banning that activity- smoking. If they were following the logic of lockdown-crazies like yourself, they’d have banned people from working at the plant, on the off chance that they might smoke and impact you.

                Nevertheless, Chrysler is free to ban people from smoking at their plant. And you are free to go work at a restaurant that er…bans people from eating at the restaurant. I don’t care. I do care about government forcibly constraining people without any due process.

                1. Yeah, except all the hissy fit violence that people are committing when employees tell consumers to either leave or put on a mask.

                  Oh wait, you won’t claim those people because that throws a big giant wrench in your point.

          2. “Liberty” does not include the right to infect others with a virus.

            Will you be making restitution to all those you have infected in your lifetime?

          3. “Does not include the right to infect other citizens with a virus”

            Bullshit argument. The vast, overwhelming majority of people who are going to church or movies or even bars aren’t infecting others with a virus. Because they themselves don’t have it.

            So that anti-liberty anti-constitution argument made by the left is laughable.

          4. So you demand the right to imprison others on the off chance you might face some fraction of a percent of possible risk. Fuck off you authoritarian cunt.

          5. “Liberty” does not include the right to infect others with a virus.

            Since, we’re talking about Liberty, and not “Liberty”, sure. “Liberty” can exclude lots of things Liberty doesn’t.

            No specific exemptions mentioned for HIV, hepatitis, CMV, HPV, polio, measles, mumps, rabies, chickenpox, smallpox, influenza, etc., etc., etc. that I can see anywhere in Liberty. You can’t knowingly harm someone but a/the virus is a bit irrelevant in that regard. They didn’t lock Typhoid Mary up because she was infectious, they locked her up because she kept killing people. Even then, they didn’t ‘convicted of murder’ lock her up.

          6. So you support locking up people who are HIV positive, or forcing them to wear some sort of identifier to warn potential sexual partners?

        2. Liberty all rests on democratic elections. That is the foundation. It does not matter what your tax rate is or how many people you can cram in your dumb church, if you do not get to pick your representatives.

          You have no rights if you have no ability to influence the organization who gets to decide which of your rights will be acknowledged and enforced. In that case you would have privileges, not rights. Privileges that can be revoked arbitrarily by an unelected government.

          1. And if you have no rights to either inspect the process or meaningfully challenge the results you may as well not have elections.

            It is not who votes that counts but who counts the votes that matters is a leftist benediction.

            1. Nearly 50 lost court cases is not a meaningful enough challenge for your standard. How many more do we need?

              1. SCOTUS is all that matters and you have no RBG to save the party of slavery.

                Trump President 2021-2025. MAGA!

                1. Would also be cool if people recognized the difference between:
                  a)filing an amicus brief in support, which in this case is a fancy way to virtue signal to Trump voters without actually risking ones license/reputation/having to make arguments IN COURT, versus
                  2) actually JOINING the suit as a litigant, which very few of these states have actually done. The reporting on this keeps referring to it as if it is #2, not #1 when it is in fact mostly #1.

          2. Poor Lefties hate that America is NOT a Democracy.

            America is a Constitutional Democratic Republic and thank god.

            Democrat Party cannot gain political power within this framework so they try to destroy what they can.

            1. IF you were capable of second-level thought you might realize that you just unintentionally argued that in an actual democracy, the people would choose the Democratic party, but “thank God they can’t.” Holy shit man.

              Look I think the Dems are nutso on several issues. But holy shit man.

      2. >>trying to throw out a legal election

        lol

        1. “A legal election” is the funniest thing I have ever seen on here, and that’s saying something.

          80 million of us turned out to vote for a corrupt, racist man with severe dementia who is dumb as a doorknob on a good day, and who promised to raise taxes and create open borders. LOLOLOLOLOLOL

          1. And, what, 72 million showed up for the other major party candidate: a corrupt, racist old man with the IQ of a moron, who promised to make America great again at the end of his own first term, and close all the borders.

            So, the American people have been convinced to choose between the two shitty choices they are given by the two-party system. What’s your point?

            1. >>a corrupt, racist old man

              fewer people believe this about T than B

              1. Truth. On the racist scale and on the dumb scale, Biden beats everyone in Washington, including Trump. There is literally no one dumber or more racist.

    2. “we are living under tyranny and you people want to keep dunking on trump.”

      To be fair, its not like we want to dunk on him. He just keeps setting up shop under the hoop, with a “drag nuts across here” on his forehead.

      if he is going to keep asking for it, we will give it to him

  10. Is all of this because one little broken water pipe?

    1. Overflowing urinals did more than 100k of Russian facebook ads.

  11. Right it’s all about optics. Anyway perhaps one day there will be an article here that begrudgingly acknowledges that elections were flawed and ya know maybe we should do something about it before we get one party rule forever but I have a feeling by that point reason and others will be long deplatformed by every hosting company and existing on a small server somewhere in the South Pacific with a 2400 baud data connection on the dark web. Which might actually improve things.

    1. Anyway perhaps one day there will be an article here that begrudgingly acknowledges that elections were flawed and ya know maybe we should do something about it before we get one party rule forever

      There have been countless articles about how elections are flawed and lead to two party rule.

      1. Really? Show me the article where Reason complained of democrats kicking the green party off of the ballots.

    2. “Yea, all these courts overriding state election law with the justification of ‘but Covid’ may have been sketchy, and the Dems did sell us out to China, but Orange Man Bad.”

    3. Elections are always flawed (or imperfect if you prefer). One basic problem is that there isn’t fat cat corporate lobby for better elections like there is for bullshit ag subsidies. Another is that neither party wants perfect elections; they both want elections with flaws that favor their candidates. Given my general leanings, I’m generally opposed to most things the gov’t spends money on, but I’d be OK with eliminating say, Commerce, Ag, and Education, and spending all of that money on building the most secure voting system on the planet. With that kind of money, the U.S. could have voting technology out of Mission Impossible.

      1. And yet you come here saying not to investigate because your bae biden won. How strange.

        1. When have I written anything about not investigating? I don’t have any objection to multiple recounts. Georgia’s done three. Trump has lost every time. Audits? OK, but I don’t believe what’s motivating Trumpistas is some deeply felt desire for integrity in elections. I didn’t see many Republicans calling for audits when Trump won in 2016. What I have consistently said is that these issues should be heard in court. That’s how this works. And Team Trump is something like 1-41 in court cases. The basic problem is that every time a judge rules against Trump, there’s some bullshit excuse or reason. The cult of Trump will only believe data that support their theory. They are starting from a conclusion on working backwards. Investigate. Audit. But the only way it means anything is if it stands up in court. Or just believe that every judge in America is part of the deep state conspiracy.

          1. Georgias “recounts” always led to biden losing votes.

            Garbage in….garbage out. Illegal ballots should not be counted.

  12. A modest proposal:

    Any female who utters the words “our democracy” is raped by Abdul, Ahmed, and Mohammad.

    1. Anyone, male or female, who says “our democracy” gets their choice of which Uighyr detention camp they spend a week in.

  13. Has anyone questioned the people from Georgia? Has the reason 6 states shutting down counting been explained? Have the apparent spikes in votes been explained? People keep asking questions but there are no answers.

    1. The answer appears to be: STFU and trust your government overlords.

    2. Just keep reading the comments because all this has been explained over and over again. Maybe at some point you will sit back and think about it and then understand. Then you will not be asking the same question.

      1. AKA, you are happy with the results as they now stand, so let it alone.

      2. Lol. Fucking liar. You lost a story from The Lead that days some official debunked Georgia when ABC has election night quotes debunking the debunking. Youre an idiot.

    3. Of course there are answers. There are 1000 fact check organizations out there running over time on this stuff.

      But you don’t believe the fact check organizations. Maybe you read about these things on sites like Gateway Pundit, where they just keep throwing up “OMG!! Real Proof of Fraud! DNA Fingerprint!!” I have seen story after story posted, but *they* seem to show no curiosity in whether the story is true. I have seen their math countered multiple times even in their own comments, with no corrections or even a response. They just leave those bad articles up there for anyone to find, absent a correction or anything.

      1. If only WP hadn’t taken on the mission statement “democracy dies in darkness” and spent spinning partisan opinion as fact there might be a trustworthy fact checker to go to, but they shat on their reputation not the people who distrust them now.

        1. Yeah I know it is a fucking tragedy that people maybe have to go out and look shit up for themselves- maybe even from sites that they don’t agree with them.

          Look man, I don’t know what to tell you. It is utterly clueless to act like no one is interested in following the evidence. I mean, I was one of those people complaining- back on Nov 5th.
          https://reason.com/2020/11/05/dont-stop-the-count/#comment-8564157

          But it has been over a month, and in fact many people HAVE looked at the evidence. It is all out there if you go look for it. Now, the next claim is that all the people giving you evidence are biased shills. Uh, yeah, so what? Gateway Pundit is a bunch of biased shills.

          Every day we make a choice of whether to seek out evidence and opinions that support our world view, or challenge it. Like most I often choose the former, but in the specific case of this election, I have been doing the latter- because it is clear to me that if the Right doesn’t get a fucking clue, they are going to lose the senate and then we’ll really be up shit creek.

      2. Fact checkers that consistently rate true statements as false because it was missing democratic narratives? Fuck off with that.

        1. I’ve seen a Reuters “fact check” where they claimed Georgia had a .2 percent ballot signature rejection rate in 2016. Then buried in the 12th paragraph they admit it was over 6% if you count ballots with other kinds of rejection. Than they mark the claim that Trump said Georgia had ballot rejection rates of 6% in 2016 as “False.”

          So, these are Chinese style fact checkers we get in the New World Order.

          1. “Chinese fact checker” sounds like a euphemism. That broken clock is more honest than a Chinese fact checker.

          2. Citatipns always fall off unreason bots.

    4. I’ve seen statements from multiple election officials in multiple states saying counting didn’t stop, though it’s not always clear if it at least paused overnight so people could go to bed. Going to bed seems like a plausible explanation.

      The large vote spikes have been explained as coming from urban districts, which centralized mail-in ballot counting and reported results in larger batches, instead of lots of small batches. This also seems plausible.

      Neither of those are definitive explanations, but I am curious if you’ve seen evidence that counters them?

      1. The large vote spikes have been explained as coming from urban districts, which centralized mail-in ballot counting and reported results in larger batches, instead of lots of small batches. This also seems plausible.

        No, it doesn’t. Drop 100 letters to the same person in the mailbox at the exact same time sometime. See how many get to the destination at the same time. I’ve done this multiple times professionally research purposes. If 70% get there the next day, your postal service had a good day. If 70% get there in the next week, your postal service is pretty average. That 10k ballots for Biden, and nobody else, showed up all at once can only happen if a) a group that all voted together drops 10-12k ballots in the box at the same time or b) somebody somewhere magically knows the vote in a sealed envelope. Otherwise, even if a majority of votes were for Biden, you’d still see spikes (though smaller) for Trump, Jorgensen, and other down-ticket ballots.

        The thing to note is that frequently these spikes weren’t just spikes in normal voting, they were singular spikes in a background of steadily counted (pro-Biden) mail in ballots.

        Flip a fair coin for 8 hours and you’ll get 50/50 H/T. Flip an unfair coin for 8 hours and you’ll get 60/40 H/T (or whatever). Flipping either one, getting 10,000 heads in a row is beyond statistically anomolous.

        1. I honestly don’t understand what the postal service has to do with this. They brought mail in ballots collected over many days to a central location. Are you saying they preserved the order in which they arrived, across multiple connection sites?

          I also have not seen any updates that were 100% Biden. I have seen claims to that effect, but those claims were wrong.

          What I’m saying is that mail in ballots in some districts were brought to and counted in a centralized location and that in urban areas updates were released in large tranches that tilted heavily towards Biden, which was not unexpected given that urban areas have large populations that are heavily Democratic, and mail in ballots leaned heavily Democratic, and combining those two effects only magnified the fraction of those votes that were for Biden.

          Are we talking about the same thing?

          1. Are we talking about the same thing?

            Similar but different.

            They brought mail in ballots collected over many days to a central location.

            What I’m saying is that mail in ballots in some districts were brought to and counted in a centralized location and that in urban areas updates were released in large tranches that tilted heavily towards Biden

            Which is it? If they were piled together, then the Biden/Trump ratio should be random through the pile. The entire pile might lean one way or the other, but the pile shouldn’t get more/less Biden/Trump as you go through it. Moreover, you shouldn’t see jumps in the ratio without massive piles of one-sided ballots.

            Again, I’m not saying it’s proof of fraud, but if fraud were happening, that’s what it would look like and to say it shouldn’t be investigated any further is like getting 10,000 heads in a row and just saying, “Yeah, we expected coins in that district to do that sometimes.”

        2. Also, where are you getting that 10,000 votes were counted sequentially that all were for Biden (assuming I correctly understand you)? I haven’t even seen a data set that *could* show that, because I haven’t seen a data set that tracks the time at which individual votes were counted.

          1. It’s the Edison data. Here’s an article with a link roughly describing what I’m talking about.

            I’ve mentioned this before and the issue is/should be concerning beyond this election. If you were cruising the highway at 65 mph and all of the sudden your spedometer jumped to 75 and then progressively climbed to 80 without so much as a blip on your tachometer, you’d be pretty certain *something* was fucked up.

            It also brings up the larger issue I’ve mentioned previously too. We can’t enact voter ID laws because we might unduly influence the electorate in a racially-biased manner. Even if the above anomalies/artifacts are legitimate logistical issues with mail-in voting, it’s pretty clear that such changes unduly(?) influenced the electorate.

            1. Even if the above anomalies/artifacts are legitimate logistical issues with mail-in voting, it’s pretty clear that such changes unduly(?) influenced the electorate.

              Case in point; it’s entirely possible that lots of Biden mail-in voters held off in varying swing states until judicial decisions said their mail-in votes would be counted and then voted all at once (and the post office, somehow, preserved the blip).

              If we were talking about lots of black voters holding off until judicial decisions came in, people would absolutely be and, arguably correctly, crying ‘racism’! And we’d be figuring out how to prevent it from happening elsewhere.

          2. Specifically, WI at 11-04 04, MI at batches ~100 and ~475, and VA at batch ~125.

      2. Why did it only pause overnight so “people could go to bed” in swing states? Florida and Texas and a slew of other places finished counting the same day. Every town in the USA has people who work all night. And here’s the main thing: thanks to Zuckerberg’s $350 million ballot harvesting donation, there were drop boxes all over Democrat areas where people could drop ballots. There is no video of those drop sites (though that is legally required) and in all likelihood, based on the almost zero rejection rate for ballots and thousands of 100% Biden ballots coming in all at once, certain Democrat precincts had immense numbers of illegal ballots that would have been tossed in a normal election, but not one where everyone is working together to unseat “New Hitler.” Trump had the largest share of minority votes of any Republican candidate in history so Biden getting 100% of the vote anywhere is statistically unlikely. “Most counties in America saw higher turnout than in 2016, including many in the battleground states of Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Georgia.” LOLOLOL. Weird, huh? Yet somehow California and New York had a lower voter turnout than 2016.
        https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/graphics/2020/11/10/election-maps-2020-america-county-results-more-voters/6226197002/

        1. PA, MI, and WI were prohibited by state law to start counting mail in ballots until Election Day. Texas and Florida could start before Election Day.
          https://ballotpedia.org/When_states_can_begin_processing_and_counting_absentee/mail-in_ballots,_2020
          That is why it took longer for these swing states to finish counting.

          Again I have seen zero evidence of “thousands of 100% Biden ballots coming in all at once” or “Biden getting 100% of the vote anywhere”. Where are you getting this from?

        2. As far as video surveillance of mail-in drop off stations, I haven’t found anything calling it into question in my searches.

          Note that I use DuckDuckGo for this, because in my experience Google hides results from sites it deems uncredible, whereas DuckDuckGo frequently returns results from non-MSM sites, usually the same ones that people link to here, like Gateway Pundit, The Federalist, and others. But even DuckDuckGo isn’t returning anything when I try to find info on drop off boxes not being under video surveillance. Can you point me to more information on this?

        3. As for turnout, a few things

          1) The page you link to notes that the counties in NY and CA that had lower provisional turnout were still counting, so that might change. The accompanying map, which only shows turnout for counties with at least 70% of the counting done, show increases across NY and CA.

          2) Even if there was a drop in certain counties, you need to account for overall population changes.

          3) Even if there was a drop in certain counties after accounting for population changes, it is not at all surprising that swing states where both campaigns spent a lot of money and had huge get-out-the-vote operations would see an increase in turnout compared with states that weren’t ever expected to be competitive and didn’t see the same kind of attention.

          1. I should note that the USA today article is from one month ago. Final numbers should now be available.

      3. “I’ve seen statements from multiple election officials in multiple states saying counting didn’t stop”.

        That’s the whole point, they told people it would stop and sent them home, then only certain election staff stayed behind and kept counting without all of the pesky observers.

        Now, (at least in GA) they are trying to say that they never said they we going to stop and the observers left on their own, even though there are contemporaneous media accounts quoting the same people saying they were stopping.

        1. The only place I’ve seen evidence of this happening is Georgia’s State Farm Arena. I support an investigation into that incident and it seems like someone at the very least messed up, but the ballots that were counted were also under video surveillance the whole time, and there is no reason to doubt their validity in particular.

  14. Enjoy your Dem corruption, motherfuckers. This is all on you. Just how much free minds and free markets does China have?

    Motherfuckers.

    Die, Reason

    BOMBSHELL: Hunter Biden Email Names Kamala Harris, Others as Key Contacts for ‘Joint Venture’ With China Energy Co.
    https://pjmedia.com/election/bryan-preston/2020/10/22/bombshell-hunter-biden-email-names-sen-kamala-harris-others-as-key-contacts-for-joint-venture-with-china-belt-and-road-company-n1077890

    1. Reason: What’s the problem? Why do you hate free trade?

    2. Lol, an October article about the debunked emails that talk about Joe and Kamala, but not to Joe or Kamala. In other words, even if true, so what? There is no exchange, promise, or even proposal that involves Joe Biden or Kamala Harris. There is a “domestic contacts” list that includes their names (but not contact info).

      Oh, now you care about corruption?

      There’s an unbuilt tower in Moscow scandal that desperately needs your attention, if you wish to be seen as logically consistent.

      1. Not one email has been debunked stolen Valor. Unlike the trump tower server pinging foreign banks you still believe.

        1. That really happened though. And there still has not been any explanation produced by the Trump org.

          From the final Senate Intel com. report on Russia’s 2016 interference:

          “Based on the FBI’s assessment, the Committee did not find the DNS activity reflected the existence of covert communication between Alfa Bank and Trump Organization personnel. However, the Committee also could not positively determine an intent or purpose that would explain the unusual activity.”

      2. Logical consistency would also ask you to give that up on account of no evidence proving anything for 4 years.

  15. Trump’s Judicial Humiliation Is Nearly Complete

    The only people who seem to be obsessing over this more than Trump supporters are TDS victims.

    Talk about flogging a dead horse!

    1. In fairness, Ken, it’s a zombie horse. It just won’t die, because just when you think it’s dead, it jumps back up and says, “This is the bigly one. Really yuuuge. And beautiful. So beautiful. That’s what people are saying.”

      What’s Team Trump’s record now? 1 and 41? If this were sports and a bunch of fans were talking shit every week about their Browns or Bucs were going to crush the other side… and they got their ass handed to them week after week, there’s be some smack talking.

      I don’t care much about the sport of politics. And in this case, my great disappointment is that both Team Red and Team Blue can’t lose. Bottom line, I think Trump lost. I think Biden will take office next month and I hope the Republicans hold the Senate because gridlock is about the best the U.S. can do. But until Biden is in office, Trump is going to be the world’s most powerful carnival barker because that’s who he is. When he’s out of office, I doubt you’ll see much coverage from Reason.

      1. The problem is that team Red is so hell bent on denying that they lost this through structural changes happening in their red states, that they are going to have to lose the Senate before they wise up. If the Dems can turn out 95% of Atlanta again, the senate is going to be Dem.

        1. Without Trump in the election, they can’t get a 95% turnout again.

          Meanwhile, the Republican reluctance to accept the election results is mostly driven by the horrifying policies of Joe Biden–and court decisions about the way ballots are counted doesn’t even address that.

          You’re both off topic.

          1. “Without Trump in the election, they can’t get a 95% turnout again.”

            Perhaps but:
            https://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/2020/12/02/the-real-kraken-what-really-happened-to-donald-trump-in-the-2020-election-n1185494

            They just need several percentage points more than the Republicans. The Democrats are making it so easy to vote- that by the end of the decade, they will have 98% voting in solely blue counties. Imagine how that will change the electorate. In a rural county you have to drive 20 minutes to get to the local post office to vote. But in the urban city 100 miles away, they can walk out the front door and vote.

            “Meanwhile, the Republican reluctance to accept the election results is mostly driven by the horrifying policies of Joe Biden–and court decisions about the way ballots are counted doesn’t even address that.”

            My point is specifically that as long as the GOP (not average voters) declines to take this threat seriously, they are going to lose elections. I saw it happen in CA as they failed to appreciate how important Ballot Harvesting was, and they are doing it in these states as well.

            The problem is that the GOP CAN fix this. These are generally GOP controlled states. They need to pass laws demanding funding equity. If you are going to give grants to an election system, it applies to the entire state, not just one specific district or precinct. The state gets to decide how that grant money will be spent, not the donor.

          2. Policies? Seriously? Have you seen a Trump rally? There aren’t many William F. Buckley, Jr. quotable moments. The Republican Party has no recognizable platform except fealty to Trump. It’s a damn shame because there was a time when there were serious conservative thinkers that actually influenced policy. Those days are gone.

            1. You had 4 years to figure out trump and refuse to.

              Oh well, trumps second term will give tou plenty of time.

        2. For the first time, not again.

      2. You nailed it. Exactly where I am.

  16. Trump’s Judicial Humiliation Is Nearly Complete

    The only people who seem to be obsessing over this more than Trump supporters are TDS victims.

    Talk about flogging a dead horse!

    1. Reason is more about Trump than Trump is.

    2. Those damn squirrels!

    3. Squirrels voted twice for Ken’s comment, just like the dead horse probably voted twice in the election

    4. They would rather do this than mention any particulars regarding the upcoming runoffs in Georgia, or the latest news that Democrat politicians are literally in bed with Chinese spies.

      1. “WASHINGTON—Hunter Biden, the son of President-elect Joe Biden, said in a statement Wednesday that the U.S. attorney’s office in Delaware is “investigating my tax affairs.”

        Hunter Biden said he takes the matter “very seriously” and is “confident that a professional and objective review of these matters will demonstrate that I handled my affairs legally and appropriately.”

        The Justice Department declined to comment on Wednesday.

        The statement, which was circulated by Joe Biden’s transition team, also said the president-elect is “deeply proud of his son, who has fought through difficult challenges, including the vicious personal attacks of recent months, only to emerge stronger.”

        —-WSJ

        Story developing.

        https://www.wsj.com/articles/hunter-biden-says-u-s-attorney-s-office-investigating-my-tax-affairs-11607548376?

        1. The statement, which was circulated by Joe Biden’s transition team, also said the president-elect is “deeply proud of his son, who has fought through difficult challenges, including the vicious personal attacks of recent months, only to emerge stronger.”

          Imagine siring and raising a scumbag worse than Trump and then, as President-elect, pronouncing how proud you are of him.

  17. You would think SOMEONE in the Republican Party would have said, “Hey wait, this isn’t such a good idea.” Everyone who could have said that got purged sometime in the past four years.

    1. Yea, I know. The GOP should consist of nothing but squishes who will never fight as hard as a Democrat.

      RIP #Resist, #ForeignCollusion, and #IllegitimatePresident, 2016-2020

      Fuck the left. Give them what they give others until they fucking behave themselves.

      1. All this fighting is really getting results, too!

      2. Hot damn, your tears are delicious. Keep em coming

      3. Lefties are scared as hell.

        When unreason gets scared, they send in all the bots they control.

        1. Everyone is too busy laughing at you dumbfucks burning your party to ground to be afraid. Talk about a scorched Earth policy. The Russians got nothing on you idiots.

          1. Lefties and their communist propagandists laughing at us? Good. Its shows that Trump is doing something great for America.

  18. Not. A. Publisher.

    Motherfuckers.

    https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1336686560167800833
    BREAKING: YouTube announces they will remove videos critical of the 2020 election, will promote corporate content only

    1. GOOGLE: “The company then said that it will ‘guide’ people to ‘authoritative information’ provided by corporate news outlets such as ABC, CBS, NBC, or CNN. Over the past month since the election, those news outlets have provided little coverage of lawsuits or allegations of election fraud.”

    2. They’ll be doing the same with regard to BLM and Climate Change soon enough. The dam has broken – censoring fake news for the public good is now accepted.

      1. Lickily, less and less americans pay attention to lefty media.

  19. The headline here clarifies exactly why Reason doesn’t understand the 75 Million people who ultimately voted for Trump.

    And I find that pretty sad. Because in these authors’ gloating I see that they fail to understand how fundamentally they are losing the war for Free Markets and Free Minds. Root pompously calls Trump’s losses a “Humiliation”, because he feels this internal sense of glee. Glee for what though? Trump’s defeat wasn’t a victory for a more free America. It was a victory for the Democrats.

    If Reason intends to counter all the bad shit that the left is about to unleash the next 4 years, then they are going to need the help of those 75 Million people who voted for Trump. And that is going to be pretty difficult after spending 4 years essentially calling them idiots and racists and shouting for glee at their “humiliation”.

    1. Why won’t all you fascists we hate, you goddam losers and idiot methheads, unite with us? I don’t get why you don’t accept our obvious superiority to you and shut the fuck up. We’re just trying to save you from your own superstition, racism, stupidity, and greed.

      Accept your government handouts since and get out of the way of your betters, or we will riot and bash your skulls in.

      Why do they resist us? Is it because we’ve never dealt with actual humans before and don’t know how to?

      1. You guys are such snowflakes.

        1. Snowflakes have more structure than these loonies.

    2. Not sure the authors write the headlines. My reading of Root is that he’s fairly dry and something of a Supreme Court nerd. Calling something “not exactly the model of careful argumentation” is measured and pretty Root-esque prose. I’m not saying Root understands the 75 million people who voted for Trump. I don’t. Then again, I don’t understand the millions of people who believe in Creationism, ghosts, or that the moon landing was done on a sound stage in Burbank. So, if the bar is convincing people with nonrational belief systems to go all in on “free minds and free markets,” I think we’re fucked.

      1. If Root did not write the headline, then I tend to agree with you. But I think the broader point applies to Reason in general. The ENBs, the Dalmias, Boehms, Briga…briga…Christians have all reveled in their loathing of Trump supporters, and now they are faced with a Populist Left that will be equally (or more) hostile to free market principles.

        “So, if the bar is convincing people with nonrational belief systems to go all in on “free minds and free markets,” I think we’re fucked.”

        Yeah this is exactly the problem for Reason. They and You have written off half the country as completely irrational and irredeemable. Well guess what? If you only draw from the fully rational, you are going to get like 2 people.

        Probably 99% of the population holds onto at least one irrational belief. The question is how you are going to get them to accept free minds and markets. Even today, Reason is complaining about the lockdowns around the country. Well, guess who else is extremely skeptical of the lockdowns? Maybe some of those people might help your cause if you didn’t just spend the last year calling them cretins and racists?

        1. Foreseeable consequences are not unintended consequences.

        2. “Irrational”

          Cool.
          Rationalize the election data.
          Have fun.

        3. Respectfully, false equivalence. A pluralistic, democratic society need not be composed of Vulcans. It’s enough for citizens to be tolerant, respect the rule of law, and to generally avoid using the power of government to impose their views on others. Free minds and free markets is a high bar. I’d settle for “leave me the fuck alone.” The problem is that the fanatics on both sides are confident they are right, to the point of “knowing” the other side is not only wrong, but they are bad people. I really don’t care what evil lurks in the hearts of men. Just don’t “evil” all over my lawn. If you think I’m calling you a racist or cretin, you’re just not reading carefully.

      2. There’s been a big assumption in stories like this one to assume that every single one of the 75 million are MAGA hat wearing fanatics who love Trump and honestly believe whatever Trump says. They’re not.

    3. Root got his manchurian candidate elected. Claims by this magazine and it’s authors to believe in either free minds or free markets should be seen through their enthusiastic support of communist china and their policies.

    4. Glee for what though? Trump’s defeat wasn’t a victory for a more free America. It was a victory for the Democrats.

      This is key. Even if you didn’t believe that Democrats are socialists. Even if you really believed the ‘both sides’ red herring. The idea of being gleeful that one of two equally bad options won or that one side is any more/less humiliating than the other is revealed preferences.

  20. Enjoy your endless wars, Reason motherfuckers.

    House Passes NDAA With Veto-Proof Majority In Face Of Trump Threats
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/house-passes-ndaa-veto-proof-majority-face-trump-threats
    The House passed the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) on Tuesday despite President Trump’s threats to veto the bill. The massive bill allocates $740 billion for military spending and includes amendments that could block planned troop drawdowns from Afghanistan and Germany.

    1. Neocon aggression is bi-partisan.

  21. Enjoy your Dem corruption, Reason motherfuckers

    https://twitter.com/Doc_0/status/1336660532808527872
    I can’t believe anyone who has been paying the slightest attention would be surprised by thorough Chinese Communist penetration of the Democrat Party. Of course, a hell of a lot of voters were kept in the dark about all this until the election was over.
    Quote Tweet
    BDW
    @BryanDeanWright
    · 6h
    The Swalwell Scandal isn’t about a one-off dalliance w/ a Chinese spy.

    It’s that 1) he and the woman dated, 2) she bundled political cash for him, 3) she seeded staff into Capitol Hill, & 4) he serves on the Intel Committee.

    Oh, and 5) Pelosi knew about the whole damn thing.

    1. Local story.

    2. EXACTLY!! And don’t forget Swalwell spending endless hours on TV blabbing about Trump being involved with “foreign operatives.” Yeah, he was talking about himself. Just like when the Democrats call everyone racists. They mean themselves. They are racists.

  22. > Trump was referring to Texas v. Pennsylvania, a lawsuit filed directly at the U.S. Supreme Court this week by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, who wants SCOTUS to overturn the election results in four states—Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin—that went for President-elect Joe Biden.

    One needs 270 electoral votes in order to win. Toss out those four states and Trump still has the same number of electoral votes: 232. Meaning if Trump succeeded in his tilting-at-courts, the election would go to the Democrat controlled House of Representatives where he would STILL not win the election.

    Winning his lawsuit does not mean those states flip their results, it means they don’t get counted. Meaning Trump still loses.

    This has got to be the stupidest election strategy ever devised. Obviously the goal is not to flip the election because none of the suits can do that. The goal is instead of rile up the base. But what point is there in that? The answer is to assuage someone’s ego and stuff the pockets of his buttlicking lawyers.

    1. Meaning if Trump succeeded in his tilting-at-courts, the election would go to the Democrat controlled House of Representatives where he would STILL not win the election

      The House votes on that on a state by state basis, not by individual congresscritters like a normal law. The GOP has a majority of the majority of state delegations. CA being massively Dem doesn’t help, CA is one vote just like Wyoming is.

    2. You don’t seem to understand much. If Trump conceded now the January senate runoff will get zero press and thus largely under the radar. Democrats want the republicans depressed. Trump wants them angry so they will vote.

      1. That was the initial calculation, but now they have to deal with the fact that Trump supporters think the election is rigged. They are extremely good at cognitive dissonance, and never count Republican voters out for being loyal sheep, but this will be decided marginally.

        Isn’t it an open question whether they give a shit at all about the Republican Party if it doesn’t involve Trump? They are out RINO hunting now, and in this version that means anyone not sufficiently loyal to Trump.

        1. Half the country does including 30% of democrats dummy.

          1. Literally years of discounting polls but for some reason Jesse really, really wants us to believe that this ONE poll/stat is EVERYTHING.

        2. Poor Lefties. How will you react to trump’s second term as president?

    3. Holy sbit youre fucking dumb. There is a constitutional method for an election in which neither gets the requisite number of votes. How dumb are you?

  23. What is interesting is the degree to which some Republicans are binding themselves to a floundering ship. A break with Trump would hurt immediately but would likely be forgotten in a few months. The longer they wait the more Trump hold increases. Those with Presidential ambitions will have to put plans on hold. Trump will continue to solicit money sucking up funds they need and pocketing them for himself.

    Republicans need to think. Trump is not the future. But the future of the Republican party could be like other Trump businesses. Bankruptcy.

    1. The fucking senate runoff hasn’t happened yet. Think about it before you post.

    2. Trump notices each and every dissenter and then lynches them on Twitter. And he might be the de facto GOP leader until he dies, if that’s what he wants. I don’t think they’re doing this pathetic subservience because they think it’s a good idea long-term, but can they really bank on the assumption that Trumpism will go away and his followers will find a new shiny object?

      Ripping the bandaid off now puts a target on their backs, but it’s unclear if they will ever be able to slowly peel it away with nobody noticing. It’s unclear whether the Republican base (the people who determine primary election outcomes, the only thing these politicians have to worry about) will ever care about anything besides the injustice done to Trump.

      It’s entirely their fault of course.

      1. The problem is that Trump’s power is negative. That is he can bring you down. There is nothing to indicate he can help a candidate win. I don’t see anyone who was losing and he pulled them over the finish line. So the party gains little from Trump but has gained big liabilities. Better to get rid of him quickly and well before the next big election. Dump him now and no one will remember in 2022.

        1. ^ pretty good evidence this is true

          remember when he couldnt help a fucking hardcore R in ALABAMA beat a democrat?

          I mean it didnt help that he backed a child molester, but details details. He still lost. its what he does

          1. “he backed a child molester”

            When did Trump back you Shreek?

          2. remember when he couldnt help a fucking hardcore R in ALABAMA beat a democrat?

            It was close but you should have watched it through, Tuberville won that one.

            1. This is my point. Any Republican could have beaten the Democrat Doug Jones. Trumps endorsement did not help Tuberville in the election. Trump helped Tuberville win the primary by dissing Jeff Sessions. Trumps power is negative not positive.

    3. I think your wife tells you what to post.

    4. Poor unreason. After 4 years, they still don’t understand what makes Trump tick or how he is powerful politically.

      Trump beat Democrats with election 2016, mueller, impeachment, government shutdown, election 2020…and all the stuff he will do during his second term as president.

    5. Of you dont prostrate yourself before the democrats backed media you are floundering. Truly a libertarian take.

    6. Remember back in October when everyone was saying that Trump was doomed because all of the polls said so, and Republicans needed to start turning against him now or the Democrats would sweep into power on the Blue Wave of Joe Biden’s coattails?

      How’d that work out for them?

    7. What is interesting is the degree to which some Republicans are binding themselves to a floundering ship.

      Gosh, maybe these people are actually concerned with doing what’s right, rather than calculations about their political futures? I know, it must be a hard concept for you tograsp.

      Republicans need to think. Trump is not the future.

      Oh, please tell: what is the future of the Republican party? The socially conservative, authoritarian, war-mongering assholes like McCain and the Lincoln project? Those kinds of Republicans are worse than Biden, Harris, or Sanders.

      1. “what is the future of the Republican party”

        War or submission to totalitarianism.
        Kill or be killed.

  24. this is “trending” on twitter…..

    Journalists and fact checkers are pointing out that Richard Nixon won Ohio and Florida in the 1960 election but lost the presidency

    I mean, I don’t think Reason should allow gifs… but this really deserves the one with the speechless Mal Reynolds

    1. You know Lefties are desperate when they go with the 1960 election where we now know Democrats stole that election using dead people.

      1. It wasn’t widespread!

  25. Did I miss the part where all the evidence of voter fraud was shown to be wrong? Like it was a string of massive statistical anomalies and the footage showing ballot stuffing turned out to be a deep-fake?

    If I didn’t, then a the very least, this is the biggest story since the collapse of the Soviet bloc, that American democracy is a lie! Of course, any attack on the “god” of the American people (their democracy) would have tremendously dangerous implications to their politicians’ power. Ergo, I see why it would be ignored by those who get their power through the political process, politician and media alike.

    -An An-Cap

    1. Um, none of that stuff was actually entered into court. Do you know why? Because it isn’t actually evidence of fraud. Specifically the “video of ballot stuffing” is no such thing (assuming you are talking about the Fulton County, State Farm Arena data. And by and large every single “statistical anomaly” is either irrelevant (i.e. has no correlation to fraudulent activities) or has been mathematically explained. Of course, you won’t see sites like Gateway Pundit acknowledge these things. No they keep pumping out story after story hoping that the volume is enough to avoid ever having real data. They get their ad revenue by constantly posting article after article that will get you to visit their site.

      Meanwhile the actual Lawyers who have their careers on the line- who will be thrown out of the court on their asses if they present bad evidence- are not filing any of this in court.

      1. So not that it isn’t true and didn’t happen but can’t be entered as evidence or should just be ignored on it’s face for technical or political reasons. Thanks comrade.

        1. “So not that it isn’t true and didn’t happen”

          No, maybe not what he said, but it seems that is the verdict in every single court room thus far.

          The judge laughs, reminds them that its “not true, and didnt happen” and then scolds them for embarrassing themselves by bringing such poor evidence and reasoning to a court of law.

          More embarrassing that you are buying it wholesale, tbh

        2. “So not that it isn’t true and didn’t happen but can’t be entered as evidence or should just be ignored on it’s face for technical or political reasons.”

          Specifically in the case of the video of Fulton county counters- there is the video evidence and there is the CLAIM that Trump lawyers say it proves. As near as I can tell, the Trump lawyers never introduced it in court. That is probably because people who watched the full video can see that the Trump team’s claims aren’t accurate. They claim these ballots were produced out of nowhere. But you can see in the video that these ballots are produced as part of the normal process, stored when people think they are going home and then pulled back out when they are told to get off their asses and keep counting.

          In the cases of statistical anomalies, none of these anomalies have been presented anywhere in court to my knowledge.

          1. They were presented to the Georgia state legislature who has sole constitutional control over who gets Georgia’s electoral college votes.

            1. By federal statute, electors are to be selected on November 3. Three independent counts have determined that the Biden electors were selected on that day.

              1. Your citations keep falling off.

          2. Your effort in concern trolling is impressive, overt.
            Unfortunately you are a bit too eager and give yourself away.
            You willing to die for your beliefs?

            1. Reason please stop allowing Nardz to threaten people on a daily basis.

        3. It’s not that it “can’t be entered as evidence,” it’s that it isn’t being entered as evidence because it doesn’t prove anything. And if the evidence doesn’t prove anything, then it doesn’t support the claim, and there is no reason for any of us, let alone the courts, to believe that what is being claimed to have happened actually happened. That’s how evidence works.

          1. SCOTUS and 18+ states disagree.

            Trumps second term is going to be rough for ya.

      2. “No they keep pumping out story after story hoping that the volume is enough to avoid ever having real data. ”

        And this is the strategy of every outlet and shill trying to push the story. Push out as much as possible, all with DEFINITIVE PROOF OF FRAUD!…so the rubes will just think they have mountains of evidence on their side, and the evidence is MASSIVE!

        Of course when every one of these claims is systematically dismantled, to an embarrassing extent this doesnt matter. They will just pump out 5 more stories for every time they get dunked on, to the point their supporters cant do anything but regurgitate “MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD!”.

        This is plain as day propaganda.

        1. To be fair, this has been the method of both sides for the past 4 years. The media has jumped at and ran with every anonymous source from the trump team and bunk covid mortality model for the years. That the right is getting its info from such sketchy places is merely that the left has captured virtually the entire traditional media complex. *shrug*

        2. Of course when every one of these claims is systematically dismantled, to an embarrassing extent this doesnt matter.

          I have yet to see an explanation for the batches with greater than 99% votes for Biden.

          Furthermore, it’s really the wrong standard to demand that election challengers prove irregularities; the election officials should have to prove unbroken chain of custody and proper adherence to all election procedures. Not only are they incapable of doing that, they clearly have violated procedures in numerous ways.

      3. Poor overt.

        I will give you a few days after Trump starts his second presidential term to morn for Biden and what could have been.

      4. The only evidence you’ll accept is current held by state officials. You say there is no judicial need to release the only evidence you’ll accept. Do you find this as a catch 22?

      5. Um, none of that stuff was actually entered into court. Do you know why? Because it isn’t actually evidence of fraud.

        That’s wrong. The filing of the lawsuits certainly describes both statistical anomalies and specific instances of voter irregularities; you can look up the court filings yourself. Litigants do not have to present definitive, conclusive proof that fraud occurred, only probable cause, for a lawsuit to proceed. These filings more than met that standard.

        Courts rejected the cases because they didn’t want to throw US democracy into chaos and because judges didn’t want to become political outcasts. Whether that was a good choice remains to be seen.

        1. So you guarantee that had they “been more open to the evidence” that the evidence presented is sufficient to support their claims? Let’s start with an easy one, like say, Hugo Chavez influencing the election. Or Dominion “controlling” votes in counties where literally no Dominion machines are used. YOur thoughts on those types of “evidence”/allegations”

      6. Wait, lying about quitting for the night, grabbing ballots under a table, and dismissing all observers (against the law) is NOT evidence of fraud?

        What the heck would be?

        “And by and large every single “statistical anomaly” is either irrelevant (i.e. has no correlation to fraudulent activities) or has been mathematically explained.”

        I keep hearing that. I watched a good video on why Benford’s law doesn’t make sense in Chicago. (Why would they cheat there, anyhow? Tradition?)

        I’ve seen nothing else. So, if it’s been done, then it should be easy to link to.
        Like this:
        https://www.zerohedge.com/political/it-defies-logic-scientist-finds-telltale-signs-election-fraud-after-analyzing-mail-ballot

        I’m an An-Cap. The reason this matter to me is it affects who is going to start shooting at me and when. Take away Americans’ faith in their “god” (democracy), and violence will happen. Incentivize election fraud and you’ll get more of it.

  26. Under Article III, Section 2 of the Constitution, the Supreme Court has “original Jurisdiction” in certain matters, including “Controversies between two or more States.” In plain English, this means that a state may try to sue another state directly at SCOTUS without first hitting up the lower courts.

    This is incorrect.

    US Constitution Article 3 section 2

    In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction.

    Only one state needs to be a party to the suit for SCOTUS to have original jurisdiction.

    1. Note though if the citizens of one state sue another state, the Supreme Court doesn’t have authority under the 11th amendment.

      1. This is a constitutional case. That is, the US generates the citizens of each member state a republican form of government. If states start using corrupt or authoritarian means for participation in federal affairs, they injure both their own residents and residents of other states.

  27. Here’s Trump voters. 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀
    https://youtu.be/U6uNt6h3_bM

  28. Remember when Texas and Florida were in play for Democrats to flip?

    Now Biden loses to Trump. The Democrat Party is imploding as I predicted.

    1. You’re a fool as always.

      1. How so democrats claimed they could flip Florida and Texas. They were wrong. They claimed they had a blue wave. They lost seats in the house. Their two candidates for the senate in Georgia are a smarmy trust fund white kid who’s never held office and thinks socialism is great (he does like to spend other people’s money). The other candidate is a batshit crazy faux preacher with a past.

        I’ll take the Republican side any day over the insane democrats and their pledge to destroy the US and capitalism.

        So now you’re the asshole who is playing the fool.

        1. But the funny thing is that they beat Trump. You don’t see the humor in that?

          1. If you find a Biden/Harris POTUS anything worth good humor, you should seek help.

      2. Poor unreason. I warned you commie dipshits what was coming.

        Dont worry, 4 more years of Trump will just feel like an eternity.

    2. Was that your wet dream last night?

    3. Would also be cool if people recognized the difference between:
      a)filing an amicus brief in support, which in this case is a fancy way to virtue signal to Trump voters without actually risking ones license/reputation/having to make arguments IN COURT, versus
      2) actually JOINING the suit as a litigant, which very few of these states have actually done. The reporting on this keeps referring to it as if it is #2, not #1 when it is in fact mostly #1.

  29. In an alternate universe where Reason is libertarian, it does not go out of its way to mock efforts to point out the many flaws in the state’s election process, especially when doing so ultimately benefits “progressive” politicians.

    It would write articles like “yes, our election system is a mess”, and “this just proves that the state is too powerful!”

    But this is not that universe.

    1. Yes, any honest and moral person’s alarm bells would be going off the second they heard about these two facts.

      1. Systemic bullying of poll watchers and observers in key districts that experienced the improbable vote spikes for Biden

      2. A voting machine company (used in over half the states) with proven ties to China and refusal to let anyone audit the source code

      If we didn’t have transparency, we didn’t have an election. It was a mirage….like a third world country

      1. We are a few weeks away from having a completely illegitimate federal government. The contract has been broken.
        There ceases to be a basis for moral restraint.
        Let the bodies fall where they may.

        1. Another threat. He is getting worse and more fanatical. Who here stands with him?

          1. Narcz? Whining from within a ku-klux sock? Mark Twain summarized:
            “The idea of YOU lynching anybody—it’s amusing! The idea of you thinking that you had enough guts to lynch a man! You think you have what it takes simply because you’re brave enough to tar and feather poor, friendless outcast women who come through here. Does that make you think you have the stomach to lay your hands on a MAN?” I’ll stand next for a selfie once il Douchie is hanging upside down at a gas station. Girl-bulliers got defeat handed them by Linseed Graham Cracker and the Rednecks with Green Teeth!

  30. The Alpha Males have beaten the Pajama Boys again!!!!

    1. You’d think they wouldn’t have to keep proving to themselves that they’re stronger than boys in pajamas, being alpha males.

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  32. There is something almost pathetic in the sight of a sitting president clinging to such outlandish lawsuits only to watch them predictably sputter and fail in the courts.

    There is something quite pathetic about a formerly libertarian magazine writing such drivel. The humiliation of Reason and its remaining staff is complete. You people are just dumb and beyond the pale.

    1. What’s interesting is not all the ways Trump’s fascism differs from other examples of this quite malleable form of controlling people, it’s how fucking by-the-book it is. No way Trump figured all this shit out. Maybe Stephen Miller is a goddamn Nazi genius, or maybe these things all just tend to go together.

      But here we have an example of one of the many absurdities a bootlicker is supposed to believe before breakfast, in a fascist regime.

      Specifically, only True Libertarians know that the only acceptable opinion is that the head of state is God.

      But generally it’s about facts not being facts. The only truth comes from the head of state (you know like every libertarian believes). And just to make sure you’re listening, the state’s truths are fucking nonsense, and a different nonsense tomorrow.

      1. Lefty projection about Trump.

        Lefties are the fascists. They use business to control people along with government tyranny.

        1. Yes the guy who thinks Trump should get to be president even after losing the election. Who tells about leftists like you’re ready to start putting them in camps. You hate tyranny!

        2. Now do Nardz, who is literally threatening murder on a now-daily basis.

      2. Tony needs to read the 1972 Libertarian platform, the one before communist anarchists and ku-klux Konservatives rushed the gates to infiltrate the platform committee…

  33. Enjoy Biden Reason.

    He’s yours.

  34. Et Tu Damon Root?
    This, and many articles in “Reason” drips with TDS.
    This is not reporting, this is derision and sneering — unprofessional crap we see coming out of the MSM every day — and for what? Because the president keeps trying to seek legal avenues for election review, permitted by law, and effected by many prior politician.
    Absolutely not needed is Root’s childish nose thumbing and petulant name calling. If Root is so sure that Trump will lose, then let the process play out and have done with it.
    This tantrum display in print puts all of Reason.com in a far less credible light to me.

    1. “then let the process play out and have done with it.”

      At what point does “the process” stop though? Endlessly filing suits until you get what you want (which isn’t going to happen) is not a “process.” Are we still going to have to wait for “the process” when, let’s say Texas somehow wins this case, then literally every future election goes to SCOTUS in that years’ version of this “process?”

  35. What are you fugazi libertarian cretins going to endlessly bitch about six weeks from now!

    Oh right, you’re going to return back to the same Obama era bullshit about how our “libertarian moment” is back again and how republicans bear 100% of the blame and responsibility for the debt.

    1. Y’all fascisti could’ve voted Libertarian and made an actual statement with law-changing clout–instead of throwing votes away on girl-bullying pederasts, ku-kluxers and asset-forfeiture looters.

  36. This is an informative article for LC1789 to learn how the supreme court works and how original jurisdiction is defined.

    1. Would also be cool if people recognized the difference between:
      a)filing an amicus brief in support, which in this case is a fancy way to virtue signal to Trump voters without actually risking ones license/reputation/having to make arguments IN COURT, versus
      2) actually JOINING the suit as a litigant, which very few of these states have actually done. The reporting on this keeps referring to it as if it is #2, not #1 when it is in fact mostly #1.

  37. It is not a loss. Filing these lawsuits and getting thrown out of court is a tactic to keep the Trump movement going. Down the road it is just more evidence of the deep state conspiracy in the crooked election.

  38. Love watching all the failure here! I suggest that trump’s supporters immediately donate more money to his legal defense funds so that the show can go on!

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  40. Pay no mind to the courts. It is just an excuse to rake the rubes one last time before leaving office.

  41. Hey, Boss Trump’s boys can still win this. Just because the Gee-Oh-Pee choses to bully all non-wizened female voters doesn’t mean we can’t force them to reproduce at gunpoint like Ireland and Romania! OK, bad examples. Take those yuuuge crowds at Woodstock and the Buffalo Party at Etonville, before religious fascism banned concerts. Maybe if narcs can bully, bust and shoot a bunch of hepcats over plant leaves–and confiscate their assets until the banking system tanks again? No? Well picky picky picky!

  42. Justice herself, speaking via judges and justices across America, is quoting Sir Arthur Conan Doyle’s famous line to Trumpy:

    “You will ruin no more lives as you ruined mine. You will wring no more hearts as you wrung mine. I will free the world of a poisonous thing. Take that, you hound, and that! — and that! — and that! — and that!” ~ Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

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