Stop Your Car From Spying on You
Modern cars are smartphones on wheels, but with less protection for your data.

Being proved right isn't always fun. Just weeks after my warning in the March issue that our modern high-tech cars are tracking us and sharing data with manufacturers, cops, and parties unknown, came a report of soaring auto insurance premiums because of snitching vehicles. The consequences get worse from there. Fortunately, there are ways to keep your snoopy ride from contacting the mothership.
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Your Driving History May Be Transmitted and Stored
"Car companies are collecting information directly from internet-connected vehicles for use by the insurance industry," Kashmir Hill reported this month for The New York Times. "Sometimes this is happening with a driver's awareness and consent…. But in other instances, something much sneakier has happened."
Hill profiled Seattle resident Kenn Dahl, who checked his LexisNexis consumer disclosure report after his car insurance premium jumped by 21 percent. LexisNexis turned over documents containing "the dates of 640 trips, their start and end times, the distance driven and an accounting of any speeding, hard braking or sharp accelerations." The data came from General Motors based on his enrollment in OnStar Smart Driver. The records were interpreted as grounds for putting him in a higher insurance risk category.
Dahl joined the program without realizing the potentially expensive and intrusive consequences. But other drivers are sometimes enrolled without their knowledge when they sign paperwork at the dealership. Worse, data may be collected through other means without explicit consent.
"Modern cars are internet-enabled, allowing access to services like navigation, roadside assistance and car apps that drivers can connect to their vehicles to locate them or unlock them remotely," added Hill. "Some drivers may not realize that, if they turn on these features, the car companies then give information about how they drive to data brokers like LexisNexis."
This isn't the first warning about car data-collection. Modern vehicles are equipped with "microphones, cameras, and sensors sending signals through your car's computers," the Mozilla Foundation warned in a September 2023 report. Those features can be convenient, the authors noted, but "whenever you interact with your car you create a tiny record of what you just did. Like when you turn the steering wheel or unlock the doors. And usually all that information is collected and stored by the car company."
Those sensors collect information about activity in the vehicle and surrounding environment. Nissan's data policy even claims the right to track "your sexual activity, health diagnosis data, and genetic information," though it's unclear how much they're doing now, and what they're giving themselves leeway to monitor in a more dystopian future.
But mysteriously rising insurance premiums aren't the end of the potential consequences of data-hungry computers with wheels. Some uses of data are not just expensive, but dangerous.
Your Car Is a Fourth-Amendment Nightmare
"Investigators have realized that automobiles—particularly newer models—can be treasure troves of digital evidence," CNBC reported in 2020. "Their onboard computers generate and store data that can be used to reconstruct where a vehicle has been and what its passengers were doing. They reveal everything from location, speed and acceleration to when doors were opened and closed, whether texts and calls were made while the cellphone was plugged into the infotainment system, as well as voice commands and web histories."
That record of our movements, communications, and activities is often available to government agencies just for the asking, Mozilla pointed out. "They can just ask for it (without a warrant) or hack into your car to get it. At least fourteen (56%) of the car brands' own privacy policies say they can voluntarily share your personal data with law enforcement or the government in response to a 'request.'"
Years of court decisions making automobiles easy pickings for searches leave the data collected by cars largely unprotected by the Fourth Amendment, Riley Beggin wrote in 2022 for The Detroit News. "While the Supreme Court has determined that police need a warrant to search that information when it's on a mobile phone, that protection doesn't extend to the information when stored on a car's systems."
Worse, cars synced with our phones download much of the devices' information into onboard storage.
Reclaim Your Privacy
Which makes this a good point to introduce a new guide from the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) on determining the degree to which your vehicle may be providing cops, data brokers, and other snoops a window into your life. It then tells you how to do something about it.
"Start by seeing what your car is equipped to collect using Privacy4Cars' Vehicle Privacy Report," urges EFF's Thorin Klosowski. "Once you enter your car's VIN, the site provides a rough idea of what sorts of data your car collects."
Klosowski recommends reviewing the data policies for your car and for related phone apps. "Look for settings like 'Data Privacy' or 'Data Usage.' When possible, opt out of sharing any data with third-parties, or for behavioral advertising." He also suggests filing a request with your car's maker to discover what information has already been gathered (EFF offers links to car companies' relevant pages).
With my recently purchased Toyota 4Runner (not a great corporate data policy), I used the SOS button in the cab to contact customer service. I opted out of data sharing with minimal pushback. Toyota emailed me an acknowledgement that "per your request, you have waived your Connected Services and therefore your vehicle is not transmitting location, driving, and vehicle health data to Toyota." It also detailed services that would not work without data-sharing.
Of course, relying on Toyota to honor my opt-out is a matter of trust. I'm really not a trusting guy. So, I also pulled the fuse for the Data Communication Module (DCM), which connects the car to the cellphone network. No DCM, no phoning home. No DCM, no interior microphone either, since that runs through the same fuse in the 4Runner (check what's affected before trying this with your own vehicle). But I don't want my phone and its data synced to the vehicle anyway, so that's no loss to me.
Speaking of phones, EFF's Klosowski also reminds drivers to disable ad tracking on the phones they carry so those devices don't undo efforts to preserve privacy. Avoiding monitoring, tagging, and tracking is an ongoing battle in the modern world.
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"If this van's a-rockin', don't come a-knockin'!"
Well shit, now the van shitself is gonna go ratting me out, fer gettin' it on in the back, Jack!
don't install your car insurance's app on your phone either
Never could figure that one out.
(The "why", not the "how").
The "why" is easy. Most drivers are good drivers. Insurance companies, however, have no easy way to tell the good drivers from the bad drivers. Oh, sure, they can look at accident rates but 1) that only happens after the accident and 2) it's often hard to tell who was really at fault.
The promise of monitoring is that you, the good driver, won't have to let all those bad drivers free-ride on your pattern of safe driving and you'll earn a discount on your insurance premiums for proving that you're a careful and considerate driver. (In theory, the especially bad drivers would get hit with a surcharge but insurance regulations don't allow that - and the self-aware bad drivers would just go untested regardless.)
Personally, I think the privacy losses vastly outweigh the potential insurance premium gains but that's a personal choice. I understand the logic of deciding the other way.
Compliant, low-risk drivers are not necessarily good drivers. Otherwise, the best drivers would not even know how to drive and would never leave home.
" Otherwise, the best drivers would not even know how to drive and would never leave home."
Exactly. A car that sits permanently in the driveway deserves the lowest insurance rates. Driving is riskier than not driving is what it comes down to.
I want my 1972 Chevelle convertible back.
Yeah, I want my 1965 Cutlass back. Not a convertible and not a 442. 🙁
The MAIN reason government has taken over the automobile industry/regulated it to death. It never had anything to do with 'climate' chicken-little sh*t cries of the sky is falling down. That's just its BS sales pitch.
Ironically the very purpose of having a government is to protect the people from shady sh*t like this (4th Amendment). Its very purpose was to prevent exactly what it's been up to. What to do when the government becomes the criminal?
No, the very purpose of having a constitution is to protect the people from shady shit like this. Governments do this all the time - they have throughout all of history. Our government was supposed to be unique because our constitution guarded us against those inherent tendencies.
But when we don't stand up for those protections, when we keep electing the same demagogues and impose no consequences to their abuses, well, as de Tocqueville said, we get the government we deserve.
Exactly correct. Except realizing that the Constitution doesn't auto-enforce itself and requires a Constitutional Government (upholding their oath of office) is part of that equation.
'Ironically the very purpose of having a government is to protect the people from shady sh*t like this'
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Oh, you're serious.
It's amazing how anarchists say stuff like this and they wouldn't be able to last a week in the woods enjoying real anarchy and self-reliance.
Following Hurricane Katrina didn’t some major insurance companies nearly default for not having enough financial reserves?
Why does Congress deregulate the responsibilities of big insurance, but then allow them to invade our privacy?
re: Katrina - no.
re: Congress - because insurance is regulated by the states, not the feds. Congress didn't "deregulate" insurance because they never regulated it in the first place.
How can one do that with an Odyssey? Stopping the data flow?
Don't worry. The feds ignore mommy-mobiles.
Aren’t you embarrassed to admit to having an odessey?
Not at all.
It depends what year (and maybe option package) you have.
Here is a diagram of the fuses for the 2011-17 models. If I'm reading the table correctly, you'd need to pull fuse 16 in fusebox 1 (Odysseys have multiple) to disable the Data Link Connector (DLC). But it looks like you might lose some other functions at the same time. Easy to check, though. Pull the fuse and see what happens. If protecting your privacy is worth what you lose, leave the fuse out. If you decide it's not worth it, just put the fuse back.
Vote with your wallet or purse! “Consumer-Voting” is way more powerful than voting in an election.
Tell the automakers you simply won’t buy cars that violate our 4th Amendment rights and invade our privacy. Tell Congress the “Third Party Doctrine” was created by the courts before anyone owned a smart phone, it needs updating!
Ford Motors is actually starting to ask car owners (consumers) about what features we want in our cars. Maybe the other auto manufacturers might actually start asking consumers what we want.
Well, how else is The State going to monitor your every move if the car manufacturers don't put a tracking device in your car?
The funny thing is that I deliberately installed Allstates’ insurance companies tracking feature on my cell phone.
As long as I don’t drive after midnight, do no sudden breaking, and keep my speed under 80 miles an hour they keep sending me discounts.
I am very pleased to keep getting these discounts as car insurance is too expensive.
Turncoat.
So this is a nominally libertarian website, dare I suggest that some laws be passed that that regulate or even eliminate these rolling big brother spy machines?
The 'regulation' is the big brother spy machine.
Love!!
Add this to the giant pile of reasons that I own vehicles made between 2004 and 2014, maintain them religiously, and have no plans to ever replace them if I can help it.
Auto insurers who want to snoop on me through either my phone or my OBD II port can f%^k themselves. I do occasionally drive over 80, and I work nights so I'm often on the road late. You know what I don't do? I don't look away from the road while driving. I don't drink. I drive like my life depends on it. That's all my insurer needs to know about me.