Trump's Promise to 'Indemnify' Cops 'Against Any and All Liability' Is Absurd for 2 Reasons
Police officers already are routinely indemnified, and suing them for abuse is much harder than Trump claims.

Notwithstanding his dalliance with criminal justice reform and his castigation of law enforcement officials he says have abused their powers to target him, Donald Trump has always been inclined to "back the blue" against critics of police policies and practices. That instinct goes back decades, and it has served him well in his current incarnation as a populist politician catering to the anxieties and resentments of Americans who worry that policing has been undermined and compromised by the demands of left-wing agitators. But the latest manifestation of this theme—Trump's campaign promise to "indemnify" police officers who supposedly are paralyzed by fear of civil liability for doing their jobs—is so detached from reality that it belongs in the same category as his insistence that he actually won reelection in 2020.
"We will restore law and order in our communities," Trump said during a campaign rally in New Hampshire last Saturday. "I am also going to indemnify our police officers. This is a big thing, and it's a brand new thing, and I think it's so important. I'm going to indemnify, through the federal government, all police officers and law enforcement officials throughout the United States from being destroyed by the radical left for taking strong actions against crime."
The problem, Trump claimed at a rally in Iowa a few days earlier, is that police are "afraid to do anything. They're forced to avoid any conflict. They are forced to let a lot of bad people do what they want to do, because they're under threat of losing their pension, losing their house, losing their families." To address that problem, he said, "we are going to indemnify them against any and all liability."
Although Trump seems to think indemnification of police officers who are sued for alleged misconduct is "a brand new thing," it has been long been routine practice. In a 2014 study of civil rights cases that covered "forty-four of the largest law enforcement agencies across the country," UCLA law professor Joanna Schwartz found that "police officers are virtually always indemnified." That means they are not personally responsible for settlement payments or jury-awarded damages arising from allegations of police abuse. From 2006 to 2011, Schwartz reported in the New York University Law Review, "governments paid approximately 99.98% of the dollars that plaintiffs recovered in lawsuits alleging civil rights violations by law enforcement."
During that period, Schwartz calculated, "officers financially contributed to settlements and judgments in just .41% of the approximately 9225 civil rights damages actions resolved in plaintiffs' favor, and their contributions amounted to just .02% of the over $730 million spent by cities, counties, and states in these cases." She noted that "officers did not pay a dime of the over $3.9 million awarded in punitive damages," and "governments satisfied settlements and judgments in full even when officers were disciplined or terminated by the department or criminally prosecuted for their conduct."
What about legal fees? "Although my public records requests did not seek information about who bears the cost of defense counsel," Schwartz wrote, "several government employees and plaintiffs' attorneys noted in their responses that officers are almost always represented by the city's or county's attorneys, or by attorneys hired by union representatives."
Given this situation, Trump's proposal makes no sense. "The idea that officers need indemnification is frankly absurd," Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law professor Alexander Reinert told The New York Times, because "they already have it."
To reiterate, Schwartz found that cops were not actually on the hook for damages or settlements in civil rights cases even when their employers decided that their conduct warranted discipline or dismissal. They were not on the hook even when prosecutors decided that their conduct warranted criminal charges. Yet Trump claims that cops "avoid any conflict" and are "afraid to do anyhing" because they worry that frivolous lawsuits will ruin them financially.
In reality, even meritorious lawsuits often do not get far enough that the defendants need the indemnification they would virtually always receive. Under 42 USC 1983, victims of police abuse theoretically can seek damages for violations of their constitutional rights. But thanks to qualified immunity, a restriction that the Supreme Court grafted onto that statute, such lawsuits cannot proceed unless they allege conduct that violated "clearly established" law. In practice, that means plaintiffs must locate precedents with closely similar facts, a requirement that can block lawsuits when police behave in ways that even Donald Trump might consider beyond the pale.
Suppose a cop responds to an erroneous report of domestic abuse by assaulting the woman he ostensibly came to help, lifting her off the ground in a bear hug and throwing her to the ground, thereby breaking her collarbone and knocking her unconscious, because she disobeyed his command to "get back here." Suppose police wreck a woman's home with tear gas grenades after she gives them permission to enter so they can arrest her former boyfriend, who it turns out is not actually there. Suppose police, after chasing a suspect into an innocent family's yard, shoot a 10-year-old boy while trying to kill his dog. Suppose police steal cash and property worth more than $225,000 while executing a search warrant. Suppose police kill a suicidal, gasoline-soaked man by lighting him on fire with a Taser.
As you can see if you follow those links, these are not theoretical examples. These are actual cases where federal appeals courts decided that qualified immunity barred the would-be plaintiffs from even trying to make the case that they deserved compensation under Section 1983.
In an analysis of 252 excessive-force cases decided by federal appeals courts from 2015 through 2019, Reuters found that most of the lawsuits were blocked by qualified immunity. It also found that the share of cases decided in favor of police had risen from 44 percent in 2005–07 to 57 percent in 2017–19.
As 5th Circuit Judge Don Willett observed in 2018, "qualified immunity smacks of unqualified impunity, letting public officials duck consequences for bad behavior—no matter how palpably unreasonable—as long as they were the first to behave badly." Worse, "important constitutional questions go unanswered precisely because those questions are yet unanswered."
Five years later, the barriers to compensation for victims of police abuse remain daunting. "The American legal system regularly leaves constitutional wrongs unrighted," Willett noted this month. "Many worthy § 1983 claims go unfiled, and those that are filed must navigate a thicket of immunity doctrines that shield government wrongdoing, thus turning valid claims into vanquished ones."
According to Trump, by contrast, it is so easy to sue police officers and so easy to recover damages that the prospect prevents them from doing their jobs because it threatens them with financial ruin. None of that is true.
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But the latest manifestation of this theme—Trump's campaign promise to "indemnify" police officers who supposedly are paralyzed by fear of civil liability for doing their jobs—is so detached from reality that it belongs in the same category as his insistence that he actually won reelection in 2020.
That statement guarantees some hate.
*throws a bad of popcorn in the nuke*
*bag*
nice article
Hits both of your hot buttons, cops and immigrants.
Others, not so much.
Not all cops. He loves the Capitol officers on J6. Heros.
As long as cops execute republicans and anyone else who is patriotic, he’s ok with it.
THEY WERE TRESPASSING ON PUBLIC PROPERTY!!!!
Of course the sentence should be death or 25 years to life, and no, it doesn't matter if they were escorted in.
Then strode in St Ashli, clad in a gown of white samite and basking in celestial radiance, walking calmly and quietly through the halls of Congress as police ushered her through doors they held open for her, before being cruelly martyred for her beliefs by a Soros-backed special forces officer with a Barrett 0.50 rifle equipped with dum-dum bullets. And even as she expired, her last words were, “I died so ye all shall live under the Blessed Donald”, and many were the MAGAts who were suddenly able to cast aside their crutches and wheelchairs and walk, And all gazed upon the scene and wondered.
You guys fo twist yourselves in knots figuring out how to defend shooting an unarmed woman who had 3 cops on the same side of the door as her unconcerned.
The only thing they swallow more willingly than their narrative is that cop.
SRG2 is a fascist. Read what he just wrote. It's as clear as day. There's no getting around it.
It shows that your ability to understand English is not as good as you think it is.
Ashli Babbitt was clambering through a riot-smashed window in a protected area of the US Capitol building when she was shot in the shoulder by a 28-year veteran Law Enforcement Officer who was protecting 40 members of the US Congress. If she had simply obeyed law enforcement commands, she would be alive and at home with her children this Christmas season.
Try again, idiot. She was standing at least a couple feet from it, standing up.
What?! Who are you trying to fool?
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/capitol-shooting-that-led-to-ashli-babbitt-s-death-captured-on-video-99180613572
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2021/01/08/ashli-babbitt-shooting-video-capitol/
"Who are you going to believe, me or your lying video?"
I suppose it's possible that you'd never even watched the video, and just believed the kind of crap that White Grievers keep reposting.
You're a liar, MAGAt. And a moron.
Does the murder of unarmed women give you an erection? Because it sure seems like the murder of unarmed women gives you an erection.
Projecting, much?
In strides the obnoxiously arrogant pile of lefty shit, justifying the murder of an un-armed protester.
Fuck off and die, shit pile.
An unarmed woman surrounded by LEOs who posed no threat to anyone was murdered in cold blood by a man twice her size who has profited handsomely from her death. And you think it's funny? Fuck you you subhuman piece of shit. Should have turned you into a gray box months ago but I can't take a chance of being exposed to evil assholes like you so adios. I hope you die exactly the way she did. And the sooner the better.
BTW, SRG claims he 'not authoritarian'.
Next time he lies about this, I'm gonna wipe this across his face.
A rioter was clambering through a smashed window into a protected area of the US Capitol and refused to obey police commands to cease and desist. She was shot in the shoulder by a Law Enforcement Officer who had no idea of her size. Had she obeyed commands, she'd be alive and safe.
Shooting an unarmed protester on public property gets a fascist a medal.
And EdG an erection. Someone should probably check his basement.
Yeah, if only St. Ashli had been a black male, you lot would have praised the cop. Wait, what am I saying? If the protestors had been mostly black, there'd have been a pile of bodies on the steps before they even entered the building.
If the protesters had been Black, the Capital would have been burned down and CNN would be calling it "mostly peaceful".
Why not just load her in a gas chamber you slimy pile of shit?
"A rioter was clambering through a smashed window into a protected area of the US Capitol and refused to obey police commands to cease and desist. She was shot in the shoulder by a Law Enforcement Officer who had no idea of her size. Had she obeyed commands, she’d be alive and safe."
Let's see if a lefty shit like Ed can learn English.
'An un-armed protester was climbing through a window in a public building, offering no threat to anyone, and a cop shot her in the face.'
Ed, eat shit and die.
Not what the video shows, you lying POS
Izzat New Testament?
Fucking evil shrike.
LOL - and I'm still not shrike, so fuck off.
Here is the ‘not authoritarian' steaming pile of lefty shit making light of the murder of an un-armed protester:
SRG2 12/23/23
“Then strode in St Ashli, clad in a gown of white samite and basking in celestial radiance, walking calmly and quietly through the halls of Congress as police ushered her through doors they held open for her, before being cruelly martyred for her beliefs by a Soros-backed special forces officer with a Barrett 0.50 rifle equipped with dum-dum bullets.”
Why not just load her in a gas chamber you slimy pile of shit?
Fatass Donnie has always said he supports renegade cops, banging a suspects head into the door frame during arrest, illegal asset seizure, and executing non-violent drug offenders.
You know, Authoritarian shit.
No he didn’t you child raping cunt. You hate him because Soros tells you to. And I’m sure you prefer democrats in charge. Since they love pedophiles like you.
He prefers Soros in charge. Why he supports the democrats that Soros has bought.
You know if the Don switched back to being a Democrat shrike would be sucking his dick on the daily.
Still be to old for the pedo.
lol, fair enough.
Plug's so lazy at this fifty-centing gig he just makes shit up.
Why do you have a 2 after your name?
Lurker here: my understanding that some psycho socking multiple accounts (old tulpa?) got butt plug's account removed by assuming their handle at some point and now claims that they're a pedo as a continuing bully tactic.
Pluggo actually posted links to darkweb hardcore child pornography in a comment section a few years ago. Reason banned his original name, "Sarah Palin's Buttplug" and cleansed the comments in that article completely.
Meh, that's the story that you and 3-4 other accounts keep incessantly repeating, but I don't believe it. You all suspiciously reply to one another and apparently keep archived records of this forum like a bunch of weirdos, so I think you're just a couple of sad men desperate to turn others against your enemies.
"Meh, that’s the story that you and 3-4 other accounts keep incessantly repeating, but I don’t believe it..."
Yeah, who cares about evidence?
Are you a new turd sock hoping to repair turd horrible rep, or just an idiot?
Evidence? You have none. I've seen the traffic, and every time you wave around your underwhelming "evidence" (for years now) you produce nothing. You are a very sad person.
Much preferable to being an ignoramus defending kiddie-porn scum.
Happy holidays, steaming pile of shit. Fuck off and die.
This sort of response isn't surprising from a liar brow beating the skeptical into line. All bark no bite. Merry Xmas internet wierdo!
"This sort of response isn’t surprising from a liar brow beating the skeptical into line. All bark no bite. Merry Xmas internet wierdo!"
Much preferable to being an ignoramus defending kiddie-porn scum.
Happy holidays, steaming pile of shit. Fuck off and die, asshole.
I wonder how many hours you've wasted away playing internet-cowboy telling strangers to "fuck off and die". It all adds up to a pretty sad life to me. The opportunity cost is enormous.
"I wonder how many hours you’ve wasted away playing internet-cowboy telling strangers to “fuck off and die”. It all adds up to a pretty sad life to me. The opportunity cost is enormous."
Gee, I wonder how many hours you've spent white-knighting kiddie-porn scumbags. If you weren't such a miserable piece of shit, the embarrassment would be enormous.
Fuck off and die, asshole.
that’s the story that you and 3-4 other accounts keep incessantly repeating, but I don’t believe it.
Yep, the unknown white knight, defending one of the single-most useless posters here, is way more believable than the "3-4" dozen accounts who have been contributing for decades.
Off you fuck.
No one has to believe me. Just pointing out how rather bizarre this whole forum is. You guy(s) are a bunch of lying wierdos
And you showed up to add your lies.
Seems like a sock here.
Just sayin'.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Trump's Promise to 'Indemnify' Cops 'Against Any and All Liability' Is Absurd for 2 Reasons
Reason 1: The states will do it.
Reason 2: The Unions will do it.
Trump’s Promise to ‘Indemnify’ Cops ‘Against Any and All Liability’ Is Absurd for 2 Reasons
Reason 1:
The states will do it.JacobReason 2:
The Unions will do it.SullumFIFY
Reason #2 is why it can be so difficult to get rid of the bad actors.
Reason 2 is likely why he is taking the stance. Police unions deliver a lot of money and a lot of votes. Our governor, Kristy Noem, refused to sign off on Constitutional Carry because the police unions don't want it. She had to be pressured pretty hard to change that stance so we could get Constitutional Carry.
the police unions don’t want it.
But if you talk to individual police officers, they're generally in favor of it.
Supposedly cops are in favor of concealed carry, supposedly a lot of cops support legalizing Marijuana. But the unions play the tune the cops dance to.
They're in favor til they pull over someone packing.
Sullum, it is holiday time (you seem like someone who won't say christmas), don't waste it all on your anger and derangement.
Also Jacob, does your belief extend to the Capitol officers on J6, the FBI used on parents at school boards, catholics investigated by the FBI, early morning raids over the FACE act, etc? You seem awfully silent regarding federal agent abuses that have gone on the last few years. Much more angry at the future and not the current. Wonder why.
I know it. How dare he write something about what's in the news right now instead of focusing on what's been going on over the last few years? I mean, HOW FUCKING DARE HE!
Definitely proof he's a leftist.
Geeze, where to begin with this?
Where did Jesse accuse Sullum of being a "leftist"? He's expressing the same concern I'm sure many of us here have regarding Sullum's selective ideas of who should get QI and who should not. What's good enough for local cops is certainly good enough for the Capitol Police and the FBI (amongst other federal police agencies - ATF, I'm looking right at you!).
Oh come one. "Leftist, leftist, leftist" is JesseAz's mating call. And why aren't you calling out Jesse for all those accusations in his post? Oh yeah, because when people you like do those things it's ok, but when people you don't like then it's terrible.
All about the principals. No principles. Zero. Zippo. Nada.
NeverTrump has been far more fascist than leftist IMHO.
Leftists like Tulsi Gabbard, Glenn Greenwald, Matt Taibbi, Russel Brand, Bret Weinstein, Julian Assange, Bari Weiss and Jimmy Dore have been at the forefront pointing this out.
Meanwhile Sarc, you're hanging out ideologically with the Cheney, Romney, McCain, Kristol, and Frum NeverTrumpers.
Left and right are meaningless.
A drunk pussy like Sarc doesn’t like logic, consistency, or honesty. He just wants more articles raging at Trump for whatever the democrats make up about him.
Why he blindly repeats the Trump is Hitler narrative in one thread while saying we can't use the word fascist correctly in conjunction with the DNC.
One might just get the impression that he's a Democrat in libertarian clothing. But, don't ever call him that (or any of the others like Jeffy or Pluggo).
He is more neocon, see him defend Nikki and cry about how the GOP has lost their way. Granted they joined the democrats in their hatred if a single man.
He is best represented by the Lincoln Party or Jennifer Rubin.
The Neocons started as Democrats. It's no shock they ended up back there.
Shrike doesn’t even wear classical liberal clothing, even though he likes to pretend that he does.
Yeah Jacob doesn't seem very holly jolly. I on the other hand am infected with joy and good will toward all (except Jacob of course). And it appears that my infection is part of a pandemic. Everywhere I go I see people of good cheer smiling at total strangers and wishing them well. I even contemplated unmuting the squirl dude and the buttplug guy just to wish the a very merry Christmas only to decide that that was a bridge too far. But if you are within the sound of my voice or even the murkiest corners of the interwebs I wish each and every one a joyful holiday season (except Jacob of course) even if to you I am nothing but a gray box.
Meanwhile in the land of Trump.
Supreme Court rejects Jack Smith’s request for justices to quickly hear Trump immunity dispute
https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/22/politics/supreme-court-trump-immunity-jack-smith/index.html
Surprising
Not surprising.
I’m not surprised at this comment.
There's a lot of work to be done catching those millions of illegals that are poisoning the blood of the nation. If that work is going to be done by government, it would have to mean empowering local cops to arrest illegals. That will create all kinds of new lawsuits as cops abuse their new powers, and overwhelm state and union budgets. So it makes sense to indemnify cops at the federal level.
For a guy with "sarcasm" as part of his name here, you really are terrible at sarcasm.
That's not sarcasm.
It was just terrible then.
I'm thinking all the way through what "a lot of work" in the context of illegals "poisoning the blood of the nation" would look like. Unless he's going to unleash a bunch of federales to round them up, it's going to require local law enforcement. And it's definitely going to require getting rid of pesky requirements for reasonable articulable suspicion before demanding identification.
Just because you have limited imagination, doesn’t mean everyone does.
How else will the government round up tens of millions of people?
I'm sorry. Did I say people? I meant illegals.
End the non-consensual funded welfare loophole.
Offer free healthcare they need to sign up for right back there in the tail section of that 747
Better yet, give them sarc’s daughter’s address. Particularly the ones from muslim countries.
So what is your plan for getting rid of all the illegal vermin poisoning the blood of the country? Cattle cars or bullets?
So what is your plan for losing all that weight and being honest with everyone here for once? New year's resolution, Jeffy?
New year? It would take him half a decade to lose the weight.
He's gotta start somewhere, eh?
Flatten the curves!
Huh so I am called a leftist, communist, groomer pedophile, for years and years, not to mention fat, and I am the one who is lectured to about being honest?
So, cattle cars or bullets? Which one?
Or, you can simply say that Trump was wrong for accusing immigrants, illegal or otherwise, of "poisoning the blood of the country". But for some STRANGE reason, you refuse to do so.
So I assume you support his characterization of illegal immigrants as vermin who are poisoning the blood of the country. And what is the proper way to get rid of vermin? Hmm?
Hey, sealion, how many sexes are there? Is Gender Queer with its graphic sexual illustrations the same as Snow White?
You can't do it.
So, cattle cars or bullets?
For you I’d choose a snake filled pit. You can even share one with shrike.
"Huh so I am called a leftist, communist, groomer pedophile, for years and years, not to mention fat, and I am the one who is lectured to about being honest?"
You forgot "fascist" and "Nazi", you goosestepping fifty-center.
You admitted you were fat when I asked you Lying Jeffy.
Ozempic.
Chemjeff kryptonite. Almost as bad as diet and exercise.
Coolranch Doritos
Well they don't intend to give the local police more powers or hire thousands of federal agents. They don't intend to violate rights, increase police encounters with the public, and increase lawsuits.
Because they don't intend any of those things, then none of those things can possibly happen. So I guess they're going to round them up with fairy dust and unicorn farts.
That's easy: exclude them from the benefits of living in America. They'll leave.
If they don't have the mark then they can't participate in society. Good call. No one ever thought of that.
He's talking about benefits paid from taxes. Of course you knew that, but what's the point of showing any wisdom when everyone just slags on you for your superior wisdom?
Does that include police protection and access to courts? Just declare them to be outlaws and let vigilantes mop up the mess.
Keep on dumbing down your image, it will eventually reach reality.
I imagine him as this pedophile.
https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5cc121c62400003600225997.jpeg?ops=scalefit_720_noupscale&format=webp
And look who shows up, a guy who explicitly advocates for shooting the vermin at the border.
Deadly force in the enforcement of law is a requirement of the law having meaning.
It doesn't have to be the default, but taking it off the table only sends the message that the law is words on paper.
And there is very little public support for cutting off ALL benefits to immigrants, including for instance emergency medical care, access to courts, or education for the kids. But, if the public comes to regard them as having no more moral worth than vermin, then it becomes easier to build public support for cutting off ALL benefits. That is what the rhetoric is about and that is why you support it.
Please, continue dumbing down just like sarc. The thing with stupidity is, you can't really fake it, you can only get closer to reality.
Non-stupid people, for instance, understand exactly what it means to cut off benefits.
Jeff's really doubling down on the "vermin" rhetoric by the deplorable, bitter-clinger, trash people.
He's such a absolute hypocrite.
Then why don't you explicitly state what benefits you think illegal immigrants are entitled to and what ones they aren't.
3 in 5 immigrant families on welfare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-uvttWE5bk
It’s actually sad what you’ve become Lying Jeffy.
That's God's Own Prohibitionist argument for declaring American girls Siamese twins, Demonizing and enslaving them. Impotent male mystics can still use National Socialist medical subsidies for their hemorrhoid and prostate treatment and hand the bill to the IRS. Then they accept an AfD-funded seat at a "Libertarian" Caucasian Convention to sob and blubber about how Jesus wants women who don't do their duty to the Republican party to die in childbed and go to Hell. It's the Ministry of Christian Love run by the Senile Antisex League. Makes you proud, don't it?
"Jesus wants women who don’t do their duty to the Republican party to die in childbed and go to Hell."
The you fantasize the craziest shit, you psychotic old man. It's always 1968 in Hank's world.
Politics isn't a noble pursuit.
Get over it.
What is your plan for the kulaks who resist the Global Communist Order? Gulags or bullets? Or... both?
Unlike your team, I can say with a clear conscience that it is wrong to refer to immigrants, illegal or otherwise, as vermin who are poisoning the blood of the country. Can you?
So, uh, what is your plan?
"refer to immigrants, illegal or otherwise, as vermin who are poisoning the blood of the country."
Gee Kemjeff, is that actually what Trump said or are you twisting it a little for your own dishonest purposes?
Cattle cars or bullets?
Both have their place, but there are a variety of other tools that need to be deployed.
But they are vermin. What other tools are justified?
Well, Jeffy, if you think they're vermin, please suggest what to do with them. Offer your ideas. Own them.
It's the people on your team who think they are vermin. And you too, evidently, since you manifestly refuse to call out Trump for his rhetoric.
Lying Jeffy is vermin.
For the commies?
Definitely cattle cars to the coasts, where the trebuchets will be.
Gonna need reinforced steel trebuchets for fat Jeffy.
Fatapult
Cattle cars. Mexico is up in arms about GMOs so it's likely they won't be buying much beef from the US. Thus the cattle cars will be deadheading back south. May as well use them to deport the illegals. I suspect the coyotes who brought them across the border used far less comfortable accommodations. They won't be that uncomfortable.
Might have to shoot their way in, but that can be arranged.
Yeah, the last thing Mexico wants is all those citizens back. Their government went to all the trouble in pushing them across the border they don't want to have to do it all again.
Few of the current invaders are Mexicans.
He also doesn’t understand gaslighting and a number of fairly uncomplicated terms.
We can probably fill a dictionary with the terms he fails to comprehend.
Dictionaries just confuse him.
"For a guy with “sarcasm” as part of his name here, you really are terrible at sarcasm."
He's lying. Lefty shits do it all the time; witness jeff claiming to be an 'individualist'.
They simply hope some of the readers are as witless as they are.
Poisoning the blood of the nation? Sounds like you’re sullying the nation pretty well yourself.
it has served him well in his current incarnation as a populist politician catering to the anxieties and resentments of Americans who worry that policing has been undermined and compromised by the demands of left-wing agitators
Dude, we went through a 'mostly peaceful' Summer of Love under his Presidency, we watched politician after politician prostrate themselves, in defense of the mostly peaceful protesters, since then, we've seen business close while observing a National "Don't say looting." policy and Trump is presumed guilty of leading an insurrection composed of precisely zero insurrectionists.
How, HOW, do you identify him as a populist? Is it some sort of sliding scale where Joe Biden is the moderate who is just-the-right-amount of popular and anyone more popular than him is a populist?
So, Trump has an uncertain grasp of legal issues? Honestly, I never saw that coming.
You should see Sullum's grasp of legal issues.
Or truth, or reality, or logic, or science, or……
Along with Vanneman.
Trump should spend a few minutes reading through the Institute for Justice website:
https://ij.org/issues/project-on-immunity-and-accountability/frequently-asked-questions-about-ending-qualified-immunity/
Sad
Merry Christmas to all you fucking Peanuts.
Let the imaginary War on Christmas resume now.
I prefer to imagine you as a casualty. Executed just like Ashli Babbit.
"Imaginary"
Federal commission declares Christmas holiday is 'religious intolerance'
You can't stop lying even about shit there's no point in lying about, huh Pluggo?
Canadians, eh?
And your point, hoser?
Let me guess, this is the time of year you dress as Santa, climb down chimneys into houses with children, but you bring the milk and cookies with you?
Pluggo Claus likes to make creampies with the children.
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
Wolfe must have been suspended.
I'm hoping she's just on vacation. It is a Friday for before a Christmas weekend after all.
Yeah, guess we don’t get The Wolfe today.
She’s too good for this place.
https://twitter.com/prowrstlngstrng/status/1738293862903452054?t=vttwrZ-jVRiwEVAWvyuKEA&s=19
When regime shills like Stancil and Ygelsias show "line goes up graphs" about the economy and then call people stupid for not seeing how great it is, this is what the American economy actually is
A ponzi scheme with virtually no benefit to its citizens and absolutely no benefit to its its international standing
[Link]
Argentina just had a few decades of graphs with upwards trends. Government spending plus high inflation makes GDP look good.
I didn't realize how dumb Yglesias was until he said the reasonable way forward was not to tear down Thomas Jefferson's statue, but depict him with assless chaps, riding a unicorn and carrying a rainbow flag.
I hate that you're probably not joking.
I am likewise unsurprised that Yglesias is too fucking stupid to know that ALL CHAPS ARE ASSLESS!
Definitionally. Otherwise, they'd just be pants.
There are some fancy lad chaps that are not assless and they use them.
https://twitter.com/AlexsandrKislov/status/1738306862175424671?t=2NSZSGZ1YhD5_i6Yys9SOA&s=19
Imagine living in a country where the leader removed violent criminals by the tens of thousands, celebrated beauty and normalcy, and never said "Happy Holidays".
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https://twitter.com/FrankDeScushin/status/1738301183532351862?t=6S47I_Th08A9F4fMDSOTww&s=19
Wanting to hire "fewer white men" necessarily implies white male applicants will be discriminated against, but since people in the societies white men built now view them as an enemy to be conquered, discrimination against white men will always be excused and even applauded.
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I think this is just the 2024 version of "beat up the heckler, I provide you with a lawyer"".
Indeed.
But you don't understand, it's okay for Democrats.
Good guess.
Any murdering cop who gets shivved 37 times by an ex-boyfriend in the joint can count on a package of Donny Boy Butthurt Band-Aids, postpaid--provided the televangelists get him elected!
Where on the doll did the mean old Christians touch you, Hank?
His heart.
That sounds awfully specific Hank Phillips.
"... for taking strong actions against crime."
The problem is not in any way due to law enforcement officers taking strong actions against crime. The problem is law enforcement officers taking strong actions against innocent people. Although it's possible that even honest police officers can make honest mistakes occasionally, that doesn't get them off the hook for clearly intentional ultra-violent over-reaction in situations that clearly do not call for it. The problem is also powerful police unions that prevent punishment for clearly criminal behavior under color of authority, and prosecutors, judges, juries, police chiefs, mayors and city councils that turn a blind eye to flagrant, widespread continuing violations while pretending to follow "consent decrees" with no impact and no teeth.
That's not where the problem is Mr. Trump. The problem is in criminal justices/courts that entitle criminals and prosecutes you.
I'm not seeing too many self-styled libertarians criticising Trump on this. But that is to be expected.
Wait'll you see what self-styled libertarians won't criticize Biden for.
FYI, you know what modern libertarianism is? It's a political school of fish, flopping around on the beach, trying to decide what the best and worst parts of the experience is.
I'll be happy to criticize what he does, shitpile.
Fuck off and die.
I literally two posts before yours criticized Trump on this. Sneering is not a very effective way to argue although it may be the best you can do.
Snearing condescension is all the guvnah has.
Naah. Dishonesty and stupidity he has in spades.
Foreign readers will note the subjectivist modifier "too"... This is what Americans refer to as "whistling in the dark." Girl-bullying bigots™ (endorsed by the Alabama-AFD-Mises Caucus Anschluss) have just seen women voters stretch the intestines of their Ohio Klavern down a busy street. Virginia women voters kicked looter Mystical Majority MAGAts outta BOTH statehouse partitions. Grand Goblin Youngkin is next into the chamber-pot. A respecter of the individual rights of pregnant women is now on the Pennsylvania Supreme Court. So yes! Republicans need to promise no Nuremberg trials or Denazification of goons shooting hippies and goading girls into morgues. Rotsa ruck!
Hank, please put this through the Retard-English translator and try posting again.
90% of Hank's posts boil down to this:
ALL I CARE ABOUT IS ABORTION AND I CANT SHUT UP ABOUT ABORTION AND ILL TURN EVERY THREAD INTO AN ABORTION THREAD DID YOU KNOW THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY PLATFORM OF 1970 DIRECTLY CAUSED THE ROE V WADE DECISION
Hank is an ENB sock?!?!
It's not like Hank ever got anyone "accidentally" pregnant, so I don't know what he's crying about.
I hope a cop shoots you in the face and gets a medal for it shrike. Then we can all celebrate your death with laughter.
Trump is wrong on this and I don't agree with him.
He however pisses off people I like to see pissed off and I know he can't make cops more immune to their abuses of power than they already are so I'm still likely to vote for him.
Sullum, the TDS-addled pile of shit, sure has a raging case of it.
Sullum? Fuck off and die.
Meanwhile the green new dealers get a hard slap from the invisible hand.
https://slaynews.com/news/audi-slashes-electric-vehicle-production-demand-plummets/#:~:text=Meanwhile%2C%20several%20major,the%20Telegraph.
Meanwhile, several major U.S. automakers announced in October that they are scaling back production of EVs amid declining consumer interest and slow sales.
In a seemingly coordinated move, Ford, Honda, and General Motors all announced significant rollbacks of EV production.
The issue with EVs appears to be global.
Audi boss Gernot Döllner said that he wants to avoid flooding dealerships and factories with the vehicles as sales slow, according to the Telegraph.
Sales of new battery-powered cars were expected to grow steadily until they accounted for 67% of the market by 2027, according to a prediction issued in March.
But that figure has now been revised down to just 38% by the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR), which said the take-up of EVs has been slowing.
Betting 38% is wildly optimistic.
Trump's Promise to 'Indemnify' Cops 'Against Any and All Liability' Is Absurd for 2 Reasons
Slightly further down the page:
Biden Expands Pardons for Low-Level Federal Marijuana Offenders
This is straight up Clown World stuff here.
Partisan-Right: "Let the police act with total impunity!"
Partisan Left: "Let the criminals act with total impunity!"
How sad it must be to be so simple minded.
Addled Thalidomide baby AT: "criminals touch plant leaves!"
(Thalidomide was marketed as a marijuana replacement.)
Got a cite and a link (not your website)? Everything I've ever seen says morning sickness due to pregnancy, which is where the trouble began.
Thalidomide was never marketed as a marijuana replacement you deranged and lying old fuck.
That was just one convenient example. The Partisan Left routinely comes up with excuses why criminals of all walks (not just the druggie degenerates) shouldn't be held accountable for their crimes and looks for reasons to let them run wild continuing to commit crime.
Because at the end of the day, it's a simplistic (read: dumb) thing for them.
Criminals = Oppressed
Police = Oppressor
Oppressed = Good, therefore the Criminals should get away with any and everything, and Oppressor = Evil, so the Police is evil incarnate no matter what they say or do.
Same reason the Left sides with terrorists, groomers/pedos, racists, border jumpers, anti-semites, bigots, insane people, etc. That simplistic "critical theory" idiocy of theirs hilariously allows for no critical thinking (or even independent thinking).
The Partisan Right then reflexively responds with "whatever you'a for, I'ma be against." Not really putting too much effort into teasing out nuance or consideration for circumstances. Very much an "I'm angry, and I ain't gunna take it anymore" type mentality. Which, of course, they express by banging on their keyboards as they continue to take it.
So dumb. All of them.
You speak more truth than most of us are comfortable with :)... lol...
Well said. Wish both sides could just adhere to the Supreme Law of the Land and focus on ensuring Individual Liberty and Justice for all.
Right because police hospitalizing citizens without real cause is akin to smoking weed. And you talk about simple minded lol.
Forests and Trees dude. Stop staring at the latter and intentionally refusing to see the former.
And even if that weren't the case, you have no argument for the "merits" of a drug-addled citizenry. There is no upside to that. None.
Democracy didn't even work well for Original Hitler in 1932. After Bert Hoover's Moratorium on Brains to subsidize Germany and deflect attention from the "Narcotic" Limitation Convention that goaded German arms and pharma corporations to fund the Christian Nationalsosialists, straddling geezer Paul Ludwig Hans Anton von Beneckendorff und Hindenburg's caucus still won! So he appointed Hitler Chancellor, then died--kinda like the way Justice Ginsburg died--at about Biden's age. Voters also noticed Republican support for Hitler (for 20 years), so it's likely they'll remember Mises Caucasian support for Coercive Christian Comstockist Pronatalism (CCCP).
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Cut the old geezer some slack. Hank worked really hard on that CCCP acronym.
Whatever that -------------> Christian Nationalsosialists is it belongs in the socialist party; the left.
governments paid approximately 99.98% of the dollars that plaintiffs recovered in lawsuits alleging civil rights violations by law enforcement.
See? That's the problem. Law enforcement officers are being intimidated into not going after criminals by the knowledge that government - we the good people of this great country - are on the hook for these lawsuits.
What we need is a federal indemnification system where criminals pay for the supposed 'civil rights violations' of law enforcement. Turn the lawsuits right back on those who bring those fake lawsuits - and they're all fake we all know that - and make them scream as they cough up.
Or D's pay for those 'civil rights violations' since they are all criminals anyway. Maybe they'll stop rigging elections if they have to finally face the music.
Or maybe Mexico pays. Such a shithole country full of rapists and drug cartels. And if they don't pay for those 'civil rights violations', we're gonna bomb the hell out of them.
Your post went from interesting to delusional to fucking stupid at a remarkable pace.
"I am also going to indemnify our police officers. This is a big thing, and it's a brand new thing, and I think it's so important. I'm going to indemnify, through the federal government, all police officers and law enforcement officials throughout the United States from being destroyed by the radical left for taking strong actions against crime."
I don’t disagree that the radical left is doing its level best to fuck this country seven ways from Sunday, but this is an epically shitty idea.
I agree completely. Let's file this alongside Operation Warp Speed, never firing Fauci and keeping a hostile FBI intact to buttfuck him and everyone he asked to come out and support him which the commies I'm sure greatly appreciated the targets put on the back of every American with a real set of testicles between their legs who would stand up to a communist takeover.
I think HolliwoodCole should stuff his TDS up his ass, since his head has been there without company for a long time.
And then fuck off and die.
Trump's Promise to 'Indemnify' Cops 'Against Any and All Liability' Is Absurd for 2 Reasons
The concept of "hyperbole" is still not well-understood at Reason. It's like an entire publication staffed by people with autism.
When all you have is a hammer.
The article’s thesis works without the hyperbole.
I am actually surprised to come back here and see JesseAZ still whining about the fact that a member of a violent mob attempting to overthrow the government of the United States got a bullet while trying to reach members of Congress in order to kidnap or murder them. What a deranged fucktard, huh?
Did it just suddenly get stupider in here?
No - I'm still here 🙂
Here is the ‘not authoritarian steaming pile of lefty shit making light of the murder of an un-armed protester:
SRG2 12/23/23
“Then strode in St Ashli, clad in a gown of white samite and basking in celestial radiance, walking calmly and quietly through the halls of Congress as police ushered her through doors they held open for her, before being cruelly martyred for her beliefs by a Soros-backed special forces officer with a Barrett 0.50 rifle equipped with dum-dum bullets.”
Why not just load her in a gas chamber you slimy pile of shit?
BTW, you lowered the level of discussion when you showed up, obnoxiously arrogant, lying, pile of authoritarian shit.
Damn. I was hoping that steaming pile of lefty shit had died.
He's always in danger of autoerotic asphixiation.
Putin opponent removed from ballot due to “errors on application”.
Democrats take notes.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67810463
Oh Jacob, don’t you know that Trump is our lord and savior and not an opportunistic narcissist that says whatever will get him applause in any given moment.
He totally would have done all the stuff he promised to do if he had another 4 years. He super triple secret (totally not Opposite Day, which he also promises it isn’t) promises this time.
Oh Balloon maker, stuff your TDS up your ass. You head has been begging for company for just years.
And then make the world a better place: Fuck off and die.
To perform better than Biden all any president needs to do is nothing.
It is essential to acknowledge the existing indemnification practices for police officers, as outlined by UCLA law professor Joanna Schwartz's comprehensive study. Trump's proposal to indemnify officers, presented as a novel concept, appears detached from the reality that officers are already extensively indemnified. Moreover, the challenges posed by qualified immunity underscore the complexities faced by victims seeking justice. Trump's assertion that fear of lawsuits impedes police action contradicts the prevailing legal landscape. A nuanced understanding of current indemnification mechanisms and legal hurdles is crucial for informed policy discussions on law enforcement.
This is all well and good, but we have a politician on campaign. Please do a bit of research and explain how, oh, say, droolin' Joe did better explaining the nuances of his campaign. Or perhaps HRC with her flat-out lies regarding the Russki 'collusion'.
Yes, we would love candidates to explain exactly what they propose. In the two-second sound-bites offered by CBSNBCCNNPBSMSCBS.
Now, if you have a realistic response, we'd be happy to hear it.