FBI Seized $86 Million From People Not Suspected of Any Crime. A Federal Court Will Decide if That's Legal.
On Thursday, a federal appeals court will hear about the FBI's "blatant scheme to circumvent" the Fourth Amendment.

Following a raid in March 2021, federal agents spent days rifling through the personal belongings stored in nearly 1,400 safe deposit boxes seized from a vault in Beverly Hills, California.
The agents were tasked with cataloging the contents of the boxes, but they also seized piles of valuables—gold coins, luxury watches, family heirlooms, and stacks of cash—from people who had not been charged with any crimes.
And they did that despite being told, by the warrant authorizing the raid, that the contents of the safe deposit boxes were off-limits.
On Thursday, a panel of federal judges at the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals will be asked whether the FBI's brazen smash-and-grab scheme that netted more than $86 million in forfeited cash and property violated the Fourth Amendment rights of the raid's innocent victims.
"The fundamental principle at stake is that if the government wants to search and seize your property, it has to have some reason to think you did something wrong," Rob Johnson, an attorney with the Institute for Justice (IJ) and one of the lawyers who will argue the case before the circuit court on Thursday, wrote this week on Twitter. "The FBI came up with a blatant scheme to circumvent that fundamental principle, and, so far, no court has held them to account."
When the case went before a lower court last year, federal Judge Gary Klausner ruled that the FBI's inventory of the seized safe deposit boxes was legal, despite acknowledging that attorneys for the plaintiffs "have certainly shown that the government had a dual motive in inventorying the contents of each deposit box."
There's ample evidence showing that the FBI's "dual motive" was part of the scheme from the beginning. As Reason has previously detailed, the warrant for the raid explicitly forbade law enforcement from seizing or searching the private property contained in the safe deposit boxes held at U.S. Private Vaults, which was the target of the FBI's investigation. During depositions, FBI agents admitted that they planned to forfeit cash and other valuables from the boxes, even though they did not include those plans in the warrant application.
The U.S. attorney's office tried to block the disclosure of those depositions and other court documents that "laid bare the government's deception," the Los Angeles Times reported last year.
In the affidavit requesting a warrant to go after U.S. Private Vaults—whose owners were charged with several federal crimes after the raid—Assistant U.S. Attorney Andrew Brown wrote that federal agents intended to merely inventory the contents of the seized safe deposit boxes. But court documents later showed that the FBI had drawn up plans months earlier to forfeit property from the boxes and failed to inform the magistrate judge about those plans. (Disclosure: Reason submitted an amicus brief in the case arguing that the redacted documents should be made public.)
Some forfeited property has been returned to the innocent victims of the raid, but only after they submitted to an FBI investigation or launched legal challenges seeking to recover what was taken. Many others have been unable to reclaim what they own. The class action lawsuit that goes before the 9th Circuit on Thursday is not narrowly focused on the return of forfeited property but on the underlying constitutional principles that the FBI seems to have disregarded as it planned and executed the raid.
The FBI has maintained that it did not mislead the judge who issued the warrant or overstep the limits of the warrant.
In ruling for the FBI last year, Klausner said the attorneys representing the raid's victims must "demonstrate that the improper investigatory motive was the only reason that the government opened the safe deposit boxes, and they have not done so."
If the Ninth Circuit applies that same reasoning after it hears the case this week, it would deal a serious blow to the Fourth Amendment's privacy protections in other contexts. In effect, that would say that as long as law enforcement has at least one legitimate reason for cracking open the safe deposit boxes, agents of the state are free to engage in all manner of rights violations without the targets having any legal recourse. It would be equivalent to saying that if the owner of a parking garage is suspected of a crime, all the cars (and the contents of those cars) stored there could be forfeited by the government.
"If the FBI can get away with this here, it's a green light for the government to try the same ruse again throughout the country," warns Johnson. "And it's not just safe deposit boxes. The government could pull the same trick with storage lockers, hotels, even apartment buildings."
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You mean like taxes?
"The fundamental principle at stake is that if the government wants to search and seize your property, it has to have some reason to think you did something wrong,"
Well, that's sort of not even true and kinda gives up a base, doesn't it?
My understanding is that Civil Asset Forfeiture was originally a legal concept where if the authorities found abandoned property that was clearly either contraband or intended for criminal purposes, but the owner was unknown and probably wouldn't come forward to claim it (and be arrested), they had a procedure in place to legally take possession of it.
It's morphed quite a bit in the past 200 years or so.
The term you are looking for is "mutated".
The term you're looking for is "bastardized."
Regardless of what the federal judges Rule. This is armed robbery. Each and every one of the armed robbers deserves To be treated exactly as if he were Doing this at someone’s home. That someone being a practiced of the 2A. That includes the dishonest slime judge klausner .
Having a track record of getting away with armed robbery certainly makes the job of serving warrants more dangerous. It decreases the incentive for citizens to cooperate with agents serving warrants when they have a high likelihood of having their rights violated without any recourse.
Would you accept 'metastasized'?
Yes, I would.
Forcibly transitioned.
"My understanding" is that taking other people's stuff is a denial of property rights, even if there is a suspicion of guilt, since English Common Law was established centuries ago that everyone is presumed innocent until guilty. It's also a morality learned by small children, and broken by career criminals. Therefore, the larger question becomes: Why have law makers authorized LEOs to act like criminals and why have most of them blatantly turned into thieves?
Even bigger question: Why do we let govt. violate our rights?
Which is why, originally, it was an obscure legal maneuver in very specific and rare circumstances where the owner was unknown or unknowable.
CAF has its roots in British maritime law to seize smugglers and pirates goods/ships. Presumption of innocence be damned.
"Why have law makers authorized LEOs to act like criminals...?" Birds of a Feather.
"In effect, that would say that as long as law enforcement has at least one legitimate reason for cracking open the safe deposit boxes, agents of the state are free to engage in all manner of rights violations without the targets having any legal recourse."
This already kind of the law for traffic stops. The police only need ONE legal reason to stop a vehicle, be it a registration sticker or driving 56 in a 55 zone, to pull over a vehicle. Any secondary, discriminatory intent is not relevant or actionable. Whren v. United States, 517 U.S. 806 (1996)
The "reason" required is not backed by evidence or common sense and therefore is no reason that is verifiable, or reasonable in any sense. It provides a sham excuse for the initiation of force, threats. It is the authoritarians getting more bold, more obvious, more confident they are safe from punishment for their tyranny.
How long will they get away with it? We we ever rebel, fight back?
Now is not the time.
https://imgur.com/a/2B8AL46
This is one of those things that should be so obviously unconstitutional that all involved should face serious repercussions like disbarment as well as dismissal from Govt service, a bar on reentry at any level and forfeiture of any accrued benefits including pensions. Realistically I know not a damn thing will happen to anyone involved.
Wray will get right on some paid vacations.
To these people, the only disbarment-worthy offense is representing some people who want to challenge election results.
Their actions are criminal. They should be fined and incarcerated accordingly.
They just wanted the loot. This is just theft. I've long been saying people need to keep their valuables at home. Safe deposit boxes are not safe anymore
There was just a story about a safe company with built in back doors yo safes they gave to the FBI. So not even sure at home safes are actually safe.
You need an old one that was built before the Patriot Act
In ruling that the FBI's ONLY motive would have to be illegal, the judge ignored multiple lies on the search warrant affidavit and multiple violations of the instructions in the search warrant. While it's not surprising that a judge would totally ignore the Constitution of the United States of America and turn handsprings in order to avoid acknowledging serious misconduct by law enforcement, it should not be tolerated. If this egregious ruling is reversed at a higher level the judge should be reprimanded or disbarred and the Supreme Court should admonish the FBI, the DoJ and punish the miscreants.
"While it’s not surprising that a judge would totally ignore the Constitution of the United States of America"
It's become the rule rather than the exception. The justice system in North America is now impossibly corrupt and I have no clue how it can be fixed.
The "justice" system was never just, always being based on the authority (authoritarian) to initiate deadly force, threaten. That was not tolerated at first, but over time, the denial of rights has grown little by little, and we are at the end of all pretense of morality.
Will the exploited ever wake up and fight back, rebel?
I’m just surprised Sullum didn’t have an article with a picture of all the contents from the boxes nicely displayed on the floor.
There is absolutely nothing redeemable about the FBI (and really there has never been anything redeemable in it's history, it's always been more or less a government goon squad).
We have Federal Marshalls- that's the only police force the federal government needs.
Exactly, although the Constitution also allows postal inspectors (albeit when that was written the mail was carried by contracted private individuals, so a big part of their job originally was making sure the contractors weren't ripping off the government).
Note: I'm perfectly fine with the government paying for postal inspectors if it means we go back to contracted carriers instead of a large federal bureaucracy that keeps losing money, charging more fees and gets worse at delivering mail.
Feds raided the contents of a bunch of boxes? I feel like there's other stories about this sort of thing happening...
And people wonder why Trump goes up in the polls when he calls for revenge and executions. Shit like this is EXACTLY why (even though he’d probably side with our Wonderful Law Enforcement and say they’re Just Terrific).
The government violated its own warrant. Fruit of the poisoned tree. Every last item must be returned, or we are just a dictatorship masquerading as a democratic republic.
(Well, we are that anyway, but this case should make that GLARINGLY obvious, and the judge who ruled for the government is a thug and a traitor.)
This was a RICO ACT violation committed by the agency and rogue agents.
They can NOT return a single item. All items have long been auctioned, even family heirlooms. Nothing is left to return except cash and precious metals. Cash will have depreciated.
Fruit of the poisoned tree means nothing because the government alleges NO CRIMES COMMITTED, just a seizure.
It is best that the ninth circuit find in favor of the agency and that the Supreme Court overturn it all and end ALL seizure without warrant and arrest with provable charges. SCOTUS needs to assure that nothing seized is usable by any agency until after conviction and a separate hearing regarding whether the assets were actually fruit of a criminal activity. That way the law will be NATIONWIDE.
If the ninth circuit finds in the favor of the plaintiff, then that will only apply in that circuit and be referenced in other circuits but not considered case law in them. They may not include a requirement regarding a separate hearing after conviction to prove the asset is related.
No agency should ever benefit from what they seize. The moral hazard is obviously far too great.
No one should ever be allowed to seize before guilt. If the person is "presumed innocent" so are their assets.
Oh, wait, they tax (rob) us and all we do is live here. Oh, wait again, we are legally required to pay taxes and obey all laws, no matter where we live. An American citizen is not free anywhere. But the opposite is taught by indoctrination from early childhood. Most go through life not questioning that lie and self-enslave.
I wonder, because Trump is for this kind of shit. The fat fuckwad reversed some mild asset forfeiture reforms Holder had put in place at DOJ because some unamerican sheriffs told him it was bad for law enforcement.
Only complete fucking idiots think Trump is worth a fuck on something like this.
“…a panel of federal judges at the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals…”
The plaintiffs are so screwed.
I mean, it happened in Cali, so they kind of HAVE to go through the 9th. But, every once in a while, they aren't terrible. It's rare, but it happens.
tl;dr;
This was nothing more than robbing people who won't go to the police. Police have been doing it forever. FBI is late to the game.
This entire suit is a sham suit. Any attorney worth his weight in feathers wold figure out that
1. There is PROOF that multiple players within the federal agency worked together and PLANNED to seize under forfeiture laws items that by definition were not the profit of criminal activity.
2. Those agents filed false affidavits with the court not mentioning their plan.
3. The agents exceeded the limits of the search warrant in violation of the warrant.
4. The agents proceeded to convert the legal assets of innocent victims to profit the agency, their careers, personal status and even personally by benefit of agency use of funds.
5. There were at least THREE agents involved in this matter plus the agency itself
6. The intent to seize all property knowing that NOT ALL private boxes could be owned by criminals is prof of ORGANIZED CRIMINAL INTENT.
Therefore, the action must be a RICO ACT violation, literally organized criminal act.
The attorneys need to file a separate RICO act against individual agents involved. Therefor QUALIFIED IMMUNITY DOES NOT EXIST and they are personally liable for all 86 million PLUS triple damages.
The violation of the warrant limitations makes this a specific organized criminal charge considering that they had planned on seizure months prior to requesting a warrant.
Place me on the jury and not a single agent involved will ever see daylight and if they do they will never stop owing money their entire lives.
REmember that many years ago a Southern California police agency did the same thing with a person who paid tens of millions in cash for a house. They planned to seize the house under forfeiture laws and filed a warrant based on the cash purchase ONLY. Upon entry in the middle of the night the owner came to his stair landing with a pistol. The police MURDERED HIM. Later it was found that the MONEY used to purchase the house was from generations old British Nobility.
If the Ninth Circuit does not uphold the constitution in this matter, and if they fail to prefer criminal charges against the agents involved, then SCOTUS MUST. If that fails, then the PEOPLE need 2A more than ever.
And any judiciary who enabled this as well.
An important lesson here: pistols are inadequate for home defense
I have no knowledge of the relevant law so why does the sole reason for the FBI to have conducted the raid have to be illegal, per the original ruling? And how do they explain ignoring the restrictions? This is just so difficult to understand.
It's pretty simple, really.
The ACTUAL reason why the FBI won't be forced to return ALL seized items immediately, and every agent involved be charged criminally for this blatant violation of civil rights, is "FYTW".
The judge's job was to find some legal basis to reach that predetermined conclusion.
In ruling for the FBI last year, Klausner said the attorneys representing the raid's victims must "demonstrate that the improper investigatory motive was the only reason that the government opened the safe deposit boxes, and they have not done so."
Constitutionally, the government must prove the OPPOSITE for there to even be an argument. If an improper investigatory method was ONE of the motives, opening the boxes is a DIRECT violation of the 4th amendment. Even if it was not, the 4th amendment requires the government to show reason for EACH box they open.
For 230+ years the authoritarian’s constitution has proven to be a mistake for the citizen, yet the citizens allow their exploitation. Why? The solution to the initiation of deadly force, threats (the world’s political paradigm), is non-violent, organized cooperation which would require reason, support rights, choice.
It’s either reason or violence! Reason is constructive. Violence is not.
Without the Constitution, the government would be even worse though.
The FBI has become a rouge agency and needs to reformed from top to bottom. If they resist, eliminate it altogether and start over. A good first step would to make FBI officials PERSONALLY liable for damages resulting for their improper actions. Why should taxpayers be penalized twice - when the wrong doing happens and then paying for the resulting civil penalties through their tax dollars.
Become?
You had me at "eliminate it altogether..."
Klausner is obviously unfit to practice law in a free country, let alone sit on the bench. He deserves to be be removed, disbarred, pay every red cent he has in reparations to the victims of this blatantly unconstitutional plunder, and end his days starving on the streets as a pariah, but justice is far too rare in this world.
-jcr
Taking money from people is illegal, even if they are "suspected" of a crime. It's amazing it's been allowed to go on for so long.
The FBI is irredeemably corrupt as are our equally unaccountable intelligence agencies. They operate secretly, in the dark, secure from public scrutiny and they also inappropriately meddle in domestic politics while routinely infringing on the private and privacy rights of American citizens. In addition their leaders freely perjure themselves when compelled to testify by Congress and they never are held to account for doing so. Thus there is no effective oversight of their abuse of any public interest.